RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
No, he looks better after the viewer's had a few beers (or preferably something stronger). -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I have personally seen him after a few too many beers. He does look better. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Literally. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Beers on me! -- Original Message -- From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:47:07 -0800 I've seen him with limes in my eyes and I agree. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I have personally seen him after a few too many beers. He does look better. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I had looked into CommValt, but when they heard we were also using Legato, they didn't seem to want to give me an estimate or even talk to me. From what I read, I really liked their backup solution for Exchange. Alas I will have to resort to the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method instead! Dennis -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
There is always that concern, but many of us went along with Sybari Antigen which was not ostensibly supported by MS. Also I believe EMC developed this solution in conjunction with their partners at Redmond. There may be an issue in that your average PSS engineer simply won't know the SAN technology and EMC-specific jargon in order to help talk you through a disaster, so you'd need an EMC contract that provided DR advice and training. Still, no-one here seems to admit to using it! Mark -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 13:16 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I wouldn't advise anyone on using such techniques unless they do so with Exchange 2003. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Harford Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN There is always that concern, but many of us went along with Sybari Antigen which was not ostensibly supported by MS. Also I believe EMC developed this solution in conjunction with their partners at Redmond. There may be an issue in that your average PSS engineer simply won't know the SAN technology and EMC-specific jargon in order to help talk you through a disaster, so you'd need an EMC contract that provided DR advice and training. Still, no-one here seems to admit to using it! Mark -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 13:16 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
WHAA All the guys that I have spoken to at PSS try and keep you away from a cluster. Here is what Microsoft recommends... Active Passive, and the cluster should do nothing else but Exchange (I know, everyone knows it - but it bears repeating). I have a cluster here (currently active/active but that is being changed), and I can tell you this much There are extra steps in making a FE/BE situation work (and it can be a hassle). Clusters cannot run the SRS service. The cluster will roll itself on occasion, and some people will have to close and reopen Outlook. Exchange 2K is complex enough, why would you want to spend extra money to make it more complex? Please make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. I wish I could get a hold of the guy who talked my boss into a cluster and kick him in the ding ding! Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Well the Microsoft Engineers seem to think it will work quite well. I will let you know how it works out. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I'll pass along a bit of wisdom that my great-grandpappy gave to me: How do you tell if a salesman is lying? Watch his lips. If they are moving, he's lying! -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Just like Vegas girls! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
why would you want to spend extra money to make it more complex? By that logic, should we be using a simpler more affordable messaging solution altogether? I agree with you, though... your boss actively suggesting a cluster for Exchange is no time to be passive. ding ding. *giggle* William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Etts, Russell Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions WHAA All the guys that I have spoken to at PSS try and keep you away from a cluster. Here is what Microsoft recommends... Active Passive, and the cluster should do nothing else but Exchange (I know, everyone knows it - but it bears repeating). I have a cluster here (currently active/active but that is being changed), and I can tell you this much There are extra steps in making a FE/BE situation work (and it can be a hassle). Clusters cannot run the SRS service. The cluster will roll itself on occasion, and some people will have to close and reopen Outlook. Exchange 2K is complex enough, why would you want to spend extra money to make it more complex? Please make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. I wish I could get a hold of the guy who talked my boss into a cluster and kick him in the ding ding! Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Well the Microsoft Engineers seem to think it will work quite well. I will let you know how it works out. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlant _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
EMC claims to have a supported solution. AS far as I know (and ran an EMC salesmen out of a meeting on this issue) it is not supported by MS. EMC's claim to support comes from a joint whitepaper they and MS did. To me that doesn't mean PSS can help. Snapshots I guess will be supported in Titanium but, until then tread carefully on them. Honestly not sure what advantage Snapshots give. Write the savesets to disk and then back that up. BRian Brian Narkinsky System Manager Department of Environmental Protection MS 6520 2600 Blairstone RD Tallahassee, FL 32399 phone (850)245-8314 fax (850)412-0400 -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of course you can. But there's a finite chance greater than zero that you will snapshot the database and logs when the combination is in an inconsistent state. At which point it is not a lossless backup/restore process. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I have personally seen him after a few too many beers. He does look better. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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...and especially in the beholder's eyes! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. Dennis -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN And do I really want to buy all those extra expensive EMC disks? And do I really want to have to stop the Exchange services (albeit briefly) to do the split? -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN While I do trust the EMC engineers, particularly after talking with several of them at MEC, do I really want to go with a backup solution that Microsoft does not fully support? Dennis -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN So no-one is using EMCs hot-split snapshot backup solution for Exchange 2000? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 30 January 2003 09:48 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Reasonable. But usually a SAN means you also start looking at an enterprise backup solution. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: Ryan Finnesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I've seen him with limes in my eyes and I agree. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I have personally seen him after a few too many beers. He does look better. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Beers on me! -- Original Message -- From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:47:07 -0800 I've seen him with limes in my eyes and I agree. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I have personally seen him after a few too many beers. He does look better. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN He's so modest... what with that wicked sense of humour and charm... he's dead sexy... ... or so I'm told... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Jeong Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions You are sick. Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN lol I look much better after a few beers, or with lime juice in my eyes. - Original Message - From: Jacob Jeong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They probably hadn't seen you in person or picture What's up? Jake -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Yea, they told me I was handsome. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN They'll tell you anything to sell you a box. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Depp, Dennis M. Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That was the word I got at MEC. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not what they told us, but this was at least 6 months ago. Things may have changed since then. -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN According to the EMC engineers, they can do a hot split. No need to stop and restart the services. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
NT Backup is BE Lite. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Weatherly, Rob Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Direct to disk locally is really fast. And you don't have to go to tape to restore from the last backup, either. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Weatherly, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Surely the choice of backup device will have a greater effect on backup performance than the software. Backing up to a local drive is going to be faster than sending it across the network to a centralised DAT device. SDLT devices are faster than DLT, etc., etc. In addition you need to compromise between backup speed and restore speed. We have a dedicated backup LAN to SDLT and LTO robots, the backup is streamlined across tape drives, while backup is fast restore times are becoming a problem. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN NT Backup is BE Lite. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Weatherly, Rob Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
That's not entirely true. Having used ArkenServer and BackupExec on the same hardware, BuEX was 2-3 times faster doing Exchange backups, from the same servers to the same hardware. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Surely the choice of backup device will have a greater effect on backup performance than the software. Backing up to a local drive is going to be faster than sending it across the network to a centralised DAT device. SDLT devices are faster than DLT, etc., etc. In addition you need to compromise between backup speed and restore speed. We have a dedicated backup LAN to SDLT and LTO robots, the backup is streamlined across tape drives, while backup is fast restore times are becoming a problem. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN NT Backup is BE Lite. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Weatherly, Rob Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
You can always try Veritas other backup product Netbackup? Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 14:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN That's not entirely true. Having used ArkenServer and BackupExec on the same hardware, BuEX was 2-3 times faster doing Exchange backups, from the same servers to the same hardware. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Surely the choice of backup device will have a greater effect on backup performance than the software. Backing up to a local drive is going to be faster than sending it across the network to a centralised DAT device. SDLT devices are faster than DLT, etc., etc. In addition you need to compromise between backup speed and restore speed. We have a dedicated backup LAN to SDLT and LTO robots, the backup is streamlined across tape drives, while backup is fast restore times are becoming a problem. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2003 14:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN NT Backup is BE Lite. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Weatherly, Rob Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Does NTBackup backup exchange faster than BE would I am just curious because I am looking for a way to improve our exchange backups (E2K, W2K, and BE 8.6) Rob Weatherly -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
Well the Microsoft Engineers seem to think it will work quite well. I will let you know how it works out. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
you'll get to know your PSS people and TAM very well. -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Well the Microsoft Engineers seem to think it will work quite well. I will let you know how it works out. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
First name basis probably. Don't do it! You have been warned! Brian Narkinsky System Manager Department of Environmental Protection MS 6520 2600 Blairstone RD Tallahassee, FL 32399 phone (850)245-8314 fax (850)412-0400 -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN you'll get to know your PSS people and TAM very well. -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN Well the Microsoft Engineers seem to think it will work quite well. I will let you know how it works out. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN You can but shouldn't. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chinnery, Paul Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN I thought you couldn't cluster Exchange. BTW, we're running the same setup (albeit probably much smaller) and backing up using BE 8.6. We haven't run across any problems so far. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN BackupExec works really well, but let me suggest an alternative. Run NTBackup and backup Exchange to a disk file, then back that file up with a normal file backup from NetBackup. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN
How is CommValt now a days ? Ryan, -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN We are planning to use Legato in this situation to backup our Exchange database. Dennis Depp -Original Message- From: Walbert, Bryan (Bryan) % [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup solution for Exchange 2000 on an EMC SAN What backup/restore solutions are recommended for a large Exchange 2000 cluster running on an EMC SAN. We have been running netbackup for our Exchange 5.5 environment, and have been quite dissatisfied with its performance. Bryan Walbert agere systems Wintel Architecture, Engineering and Standards MS Exchange/Windows Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 610 712 5874 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
