RE: Email review
To overcome the possible chance of every increasing archive storage you can have an HSM product to reduce on-line storage requirements, as the Emails are stored within a NTFS structured file/folders. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 April 2002 17:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email review KVS Enterprise Vault is a great product, has lots of nice features around terminating PST's and bringing them back into the fold, amongst other things. Does however keep the messages live, i.e. on Disk storage, and can become VERY large if you want to keep lots of mail for a long time. Has a nice web interface, so you don't need outlook to search and read archived messages (don't even need the Exchange server up for archived messages). Also renders some content types (where a filter exists), so you can maintain some semblance of forward compatibility. For example if you upgrade to a version of Word that cant read old files, Enterprise vault stores a rendered version of the attachment that is viewable entirely within the browser (no ActiveX support required). This is a great feature if you want to retain stuff for a long time. Security on individual Vaults can be modified via the Admin interface, so your auditors can conduct audits of the email system without having each individual user go through their own email. Lots more other things. Haven't had direct experience with the other products. Glenn -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email review Being a Securities company, by SEC law, we have to archive and review all internet mail to a non-re-writeable media (it falls under the client correspondance part of the requirement). Our system that we currently use is out of date. We also want to get pst's off of the network into a better form of storage. I group these 2 products together because many of the vendors do the same. We have narrowed it down to these 3 companies. Each have their positives and negatives. Does anyone have any experience with any of these and what are your feelings about them? KVS - Enterprise Vault OTG - Email Extneder Tumbleweed - Secure Archive Thank you for your assistance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (04) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
Hi, E-Mail Extender: Expensive, buggy and crummy support. All blamed on the CD writer, however. Seriously, it doesn't go one month without shutting down or having to be shut down. Good points, not a lot of overhead for what it does and I didn't work here during the implementation. YMMV of course. Test it well. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email review Being a Securities company, by SEC law, we have to archive and review all internet mail to a non-re-writeable media (it falls under the client correspondance part of the requirement). Our system that we currently use is out of date. We also want to get pst's off of the network into a better form of storage. I group these 2 products together because many of the vendors do the same. We have narrowed it down to these 3 companies. Each have their positives and negatives. Does anyone have any experience with any of these and what are your feelings about them? KVS - Enterprise Vault OTG - Email Extneder Tumbleweed - Secure Archive Thank you for your assistance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Email review
KVS Enterprise Vault is a great product, has lots of nice features around terminating PST's and bringing them back into the fold, amongst other things. Does however keep the messages live, i.e. on Disk storage, and can become VERY large if you want to keep lots of mail for a long time. Has a nice web interface, so you don't need outlook to search and read archived messages (don't even need the Exchange server up for archived messages). Also renders some content types (where a filter exists), so you can maintain some semblance of forward compatibility. For example if you upgrade to a version of Word that cant read old files, Enterprise vault stores a rendered version of the attachment that is viewable entirely within the browser (no ActiveX support required). This is a great feature if you want to retain stuff for a long time. Security on individual Vaults can be modified via the Admin interface, so your auditors can conduct audits of the email system without having each individual user go through their own email. Lots more other things. Haven't had direct experience with the other products. Glenn -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email review Being a Securities company, by SEC law, we have to archive and review all internet mail to a non-re-writeable media (it falls under the client correspondance part of the requirement). Our system that we currently use is out of date. We also want to get pst's off of the network into a better form of storage. I group these 2 products together because many of the vendors do the same. We have narrowed it down to these 3 companies. Each have their positives and negatives. Does anyone have any experience with any of these and what are your feelings about them? KVS - Enterprise Vault OTG - Email Extneder Tumbleweed - Secure Archive Thank you for your assistance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
Jon, we are in the process of putting out live pilot out to the techs, main advantage I found over other products is that the import of PST's Emails are re-SIS'ed into the archive store (really handy for migrations and server moves) including Emails that were sent to different exchange servers and retrieve is only once over the network, main disadvantage is because of the 'only once' that OST don't work on archived items, until the next version when they have a offline vault held on the laptop. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 April 2002 19:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email review Being a Securities company, by SEC law, we have to archive and review all internet mail to a non-re-writeable media (it falls under the client correspondance part of the requirement). Our system that we currently use is out of date. We also want to get pst's off of the network into a better form of storage. I group these 2 products together because many of the vendors do the same. We have narrowed it down to these 3 companies. Each have their positives and negatives. Does anyone have any experience with any of these and what are your feelings about them? KVS - Enterprise Vault OTG - Email Extneder Tumbleweed - Secure Archive Thank you for your assistance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (6) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
We use the content filtering software (MMS) from Tumbleweed. It works, but it is buggy and their tech support is pretty much useless. Tumbleweed does focus on Finance industry, so the support you would receive may be better than ours. I can't comment on their archive product itself, but I would test the hell out of it in the lab before making any commitment to it. About the pst's, the only better form of storage for them would be in the trash. Give your users larger mailboxes and ban PSTs on your network. Modify your Outlook image so that the service is not even available to the clients. This becomes even more desirable now that you'll have an archival solution. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email review Being a Securities company, by SEC law, we have to archive and review all internet mail to a non-re-writeable media (it falls under the client correspondance part of the requirement). Our system that we currently use is out of date. We also want to get pst's off of the network into a better form of storage. I group these 2 products together because many of the vendors do the same. We have narrowed it down to these 3 companies. Each have their positives and negatives. Does anyone have any experience with any of these and what are your feelings about them? KVS - Enterprise Vault OTG - Email Extneder Tumbleweed - Secure Archive Thank you for your assistance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
I couldn't agree more about the pst's. In fact, we are intending on doing a registry push so users can't create pst's. Unfortunately, the network group won't ban pst's from the network as we requested/suggested. Thanks for the Tumbleweed comments. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
IIRC, that hack doenst actually prevent people from creating psts. Original message Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:26:47 -0500 From: Jonathan Beeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Email review To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] I couldn't agree more about the pst's. In fact, we are intending on doing a registry push so users can't create pst's. Unfortunately, the network group won't ban pst's from the network as we requested/suggested. Thanks for the Tumbleweed comments. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy David _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email review
I didn't realize that. There isn't a simple registry that can prevent this? If this is the case, what would you recommend to do that would essentially accomplisht the same results? (other than just saying don't do it) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
