RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
How did you remove it? It looks to me that AD/GC still has a record of that server as an exchange server. Only when you get no response ( ie time lag on client side) from that server does it appear to go to the other server. I know you can fiddle a bit with your GC's to point it to preferred servers etc. Check TechNet if no joy, phone PPS. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 October 2001 04:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. Thanks, -John Q Jr. Lamo extraordinaire _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
I love it, you are a wealth of knowledge. It is a 2K Exchange and 02K. What is a keyword to search for, I looked on the faq Google. No good. Could you please give me a idea of what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
Is this the first time they connect after the server was removed or every time? Additional details before I send you off pls. -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I love it, you are a wealth of knowledge. It is a 2K Exchange and 02K. What is a keyword to search for, I looked on the faq Google. No good. Could you please give me a idea of what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
As soon as I removed the old E2K they could not connect every time and have not been able to connect since then, w/o clicking retry of course. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:45:43 -0500 Is this the first time they connect after the server was removed or every time? Additional details before I send you off pls. -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I love it, you are a wealth of knowledge. It is a 2K Exchange and 02K. What is a keyword to search for, I looked on the faq Google. No good. Could you please give me a idea of what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
Oh.. well in that case as someone else has pointed out you have a name resolution issue.. look at you DNS and WINS configs. The other path I was going down, while interesting isn't related. -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange As soon as I removed the old E2K they could not connect every time and have not been able to connect since then, w/o clicking retry of course. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:45:43 -0500 Is this the first time they connect after the server was removed or every time? Additional details before I send you off pls. -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I love it, you are a wealth of knowledge. It is a 2K Exchange and 02K. What is a keyword to search for, I looked on the faq Google. No good. Could you please give me a idea of what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
Does this look like an answer to my Question? == Optimizing the RPC Binding Order Outlook 2000 uses Remote Procedure Calls (RPCs) to communicate with the Exchange Server. For the best performance, the RPCs need to bind to TCP/IP first. This utility optimizes the RPC Binding Order in the Registry. Click the link below, then choose the Save this file to disk option. Specify your desktop as the location. From your desktop, double-click the file. Once it runs, you should delete the file. Download the RPC Binding Order optimizer (RPCOrder.reg) From: The Geek Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:40:51 + As soon as I removed the old E2K they could not connect every time and have not been able to connect since then, w/o clicking retry of course. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:45:43 -0500 Is this the first time they connect after the server was removed or every time? Additional details before I send you off pls. -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I love it, you are a wealth of knowledge. It is a 2K Exchange and 02K. What is a keyword to search for, I looked on the faq Google. No good. Could you please give me a idea of what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:07:27 -0500 Dear Mr. Q, What version of Outlook and Exchange? The answer can different depending on versions.[1] The short answer to your question is that Exchange refers the clients to a DC to use for name resolution and that is cached on the client until it fails... then the Exchange server is contacted directly and referred again to an available DC. I'll stop while we all ponder the load balancing implications of adding new DCs to an existing and established E2K org based on this behavior.[2] I'll continue to stop while we ponder the implication of directory lookup traffic to non-local DCs based on the Exchange referral behavior.[3] [1] Actually based on the description of the problem one can logically assume the server was E2K and the client was O2K or later, but too much information is always better than [2] solution covered in the archives, deja and TechNet. [3] IBID -Original Message- From: The Geek Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange
Sounds like a timing problem. Everytime I have had that problem I did the registry change to the order of which protocol first the Outlook client use to try and contact the Exchange server. Not sure if it applies to you. If so run regedit on one of the clients and change the RPC binding order for Exchange. Look in the registry area HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\Exchange Provider. Try Q174701 or Q163576 - Original Message - From: The Geek Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: HOW Outlook connects to Exchange I have a little issue. First I'll give you the problem, then what info I hope to find. I removed a 2K DC w/ Exchange off the domain now the 2nd Exchange box is the only mail server, also another DC. When clients try to connect using Outlook 2K they have to wait for 15-20 secs then get the no Exchange server found error. When they click retry wham it's instantly there! Now my question is how does Outlook know where/look for the Exchange server? I thought I read it was DNS for 2K, WINS for 9x. Is it a AD property? Nothing has helped so far. Any Ideas. Thanks, -John Q Jr. Lamo extraordinaire _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
