RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread David, Andy
I saw that delay in the early beta versions of Outlook 2003. 
 

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From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
installs.

If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then send
a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to appear in the
Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in the profile so it is directly
linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in the Inbox.

It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every so
often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this and seen
this problem?

TIA,

Paul




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RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread John Matteson
Isn't that the idea of a cached mode of operations? Operate directly off
the local OST file and poll the server now and again to download any
newly arrived messages to the local file? 

If there is a problem, just untick the cached mode and run it directly
from the server.

Regarding the Can it be changed, I'm not sure, but probably, either
through the menus or through a registry hack. 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


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From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:53 AM
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Conversation: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode


I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
installs.

If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then
send a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to
appear in the Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in the profile
so it is directly linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in
the Inbox.

It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every
so often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this
and seen this problem?

TIA,

Paul




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RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread Bendall, Paul
Well from my basic understanding of the cached mode mechanism I thought that
when it detected that it was connected through to the server on a fast LAN
link then it would act like a non-cached client. I was hoping for a registry
hack but haven't found anything as of yet on Microsoft's site or elsewhere.
Thanks for replying.

Paul

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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode


Isn't that the idea of a cached mode of operations? Operate directly off
the local OST file and poll the server now and again to download any
newly arrived messages to the local file? 

If there is a problem, just untick the cached mode and run it directly
from the server.

Regarding the Can it be changed, I'm not sure, but probably, either
through the menus or through a registry hack. 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:53 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode


I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
installs.

If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then
send a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to
appear in the Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in the profile
so it is directly linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in
the Inbox.

It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every
so often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this
and seen this problem?

TIA,

Paul




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RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread Erik Sojka
Nope.  In cached mode the user always directly reads from the local store,
which is updated as needed when a network connection is connected.  

If the design goal was to read from the server in all network situations and
go offline when the network was unavailable, they wouldn't have changed that
mode of operation from previous versions of Exchange/Outlook...

 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Well from my basic understanding of the cached mode mechanism 
 I thought that
 when it detected that it was connected through to the server 
 on a fast LAN
 link then it would act like a non-cached client. I was hoping 
 for a registry
 hack but haven't found anything as of yet on Microsoft's site 
 or elsewhere.
 Thanks for replying.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Matteson
 Sent: 22 December 2003 14:48
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Isn't that the idea of a cached mode of operations? Operate 
 directly off
 the local OST file and poll the server now and again to download any
 newly arrived messages to the local file? 
 
 If there is a problem, just untick the cached mode and run it directly
 from the server.
 
 Regarding the Can it be changed, I'm not sure, but probably, either
 through the menus or through a registry hack. 
 
 
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:53 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
 Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
 installs.
 
 If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then
 send a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to
 appear in the Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in 
 the profile
 so it is directly linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in
 the Inbox.
 
 It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every
 so often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this
 and seen this problem?
 
 TIA,
 
 Paul
 
 
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RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread Bendall, Paul
Okay that would make sense, but do you think therefore the period that the
server is queried can be customised?

TIA

Paul

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Sent: 22 December 2003 15:18
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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode


Nope.  In cached mode the user always directly reads from the local store,
which is updated as needed when a network connection is connected.  

If the design goal was to read from the server in all network situations and
go offline when the network was unavailable, they wouldn't have changed that
mode of operation from previous versions of Exchange/Outlook...

 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Well from my basic understanding of the cached mode mechanism 
 I thought that
 when it detected that it was connected through to the server 
 on a fast LAN
 link then it would act like a non-cached client. I was hoping 
 for a registry
 hack but haven't found anything as of yet on Microsoft's site 
 or elsewhere.
 Thanks for replying.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Matteson
 Sent: 22 December 2003 14:48
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Isn't that the idea of a cached mode of operations? Operate 
 directly off
 the local OST file and poll the server now and again to download any
 newly arrived messages to the local file? 
 
 If there is a problem, just untick the cached mode and run it directly
 from the server.
 
 Regarding the Can it be changed, I'm not sure, but probably, either
 through the menus or through a registry hack. 
 
 
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:53 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
 Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
 installs.
 
 If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then
 send a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to
 appear in the Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in 
 the profile
 so it is directly linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in
 the Inbox.
 
 It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every
 so often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this
 and seen this problem?
 
 TIA,
 
 Paul
 
 
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RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

2003-12-22 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I believe there is a registry hack for this. There was a KB article
describing how to make Outlook check for new mail more often, even when
Outlook is running online. Yes, online. This is a special case when
Outlook is running behind a firewall that blocks inbound UDP frames (or
behind NAT) and prevents Exchange server from sending a new mail
notification UDP frame to Outlook (without receiving this frame,
Outlook does not know that it is supposed to refresh its view). The same
registry hack may just work in your case. Search MS KB for Outlook + UDP
+ new mail notification.

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From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode

Okay that would make sense, but do you think therefore the period that
the
server is queried can be customised?

TIA

Paul

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: 22 December 2003 15:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode


Nope.  In cached mode the user always directly reads from the local
store,
which is updated as needed when a network connection is connected.  

If the design goal was to read from the server in all network situations
and
go offline when the network was unavailable, they wouldn't have changed
that
mode of operation from previous versions of Exchange/Outlook...

 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Well from my basic understanding of the cached mode mechanism 
 I thought that
 when it detected that it was connected through to the server 
 on a fast LAN
 link then it would act like a non-cached client. I was hoping 
 for a registry
 hack but haven't found anything as of yet on Microsoft's site 
 or elsewhere.
 Thanks for replying.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Matteson
 Sent: 22 December 2003 14:48
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 Isn't that the idea of a cached mode of operations? Operate 
 directly off
 the local OST file and poll the server now and again to download any
 newly arrived messages to the local file? 
 
 If there is a problem, just untick the cached mode and run it directly
 from the server.
 
 Regarding the Can it be changed, I'm not sure, but probably, either
 through the menus or through a registry hack. 
 
 
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:53 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 Subject: Slightly OT: Outlook 2003 in cached mode
 
 
 I don't know what is happening but I have tried the following on five
 Exchange 2003 servers using Outlook 2003 in cached mode from default
 installs.
 
 If I use Outlook 2003 on a new mailbox and allow it to sync fully then
 send a message to myself. It will take approximately 30 seconds to
 appear in the Inbox. If I remove the tick for Cached Mode in 
 the profile
 so it is directly linked to Exchange the message appears instantly in
 the Inbox.
 
 It would appear cache mode on Outlook 2003 is polling the server every
 so often, is this the case? Can it be changed? Anyone else tried this
 and seen this problem?
 
 TIA,
 
 Paul
 
 
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