RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Andy David

Running at 100% is not normal.
Any hardware/software changes made recently ?
I would disable the AV completely and see what happens.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe and NT backup


Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.

But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the backup of
the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.

The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is only
backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).

Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
The queues are not backing up.
Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange
directories are being skipped.
Nothing new has been added or removed from the server.
There is no delay when stopping or starting the information store.
No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has not not responded.
Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs

Nt server 4.0 sp6a
Exchange 5.5 sp3
NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:

ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l
c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal

I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no body and
no subject starting at the time the backup starts

Mike

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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Andy David

Why would you want to do that?


-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup


Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the
information store while the backup is running.


 Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
 supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
 
 But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the backup of
 the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
 
 The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is only
 backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
 
 Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
 The queues are not backing up.
 Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange
 directories are being skipped.
 Nothing new has been added or removed from the server.
 There is no delay when stopping or starting the information store.
 No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has not not responded.
 Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
 
 Nt server 4.0 sp6a
 Exchange 5.5 sp3
 NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
 
 ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l
 c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
 
 I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no body and
 no subject starting at the time the backup starts
 
 Mike

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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Ed Crowley

What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup


I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
(Q272570). 
Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
don't know.

 Why would you want to do that?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the 
 information store while the backup is running.
 
 
  Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is 
  supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
  
  But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the 
  backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
  
  The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is 
  only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
  
  Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
  The queues are not backing up.
  Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange 
  directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed

  from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the 
  information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has 
  not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
  
  Nt server 4.0 sp6a
  Exchange 5.5 sp3
  NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
  
  ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
  c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
  
  I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no 
  body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts
  
  Mike
 
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Chris Jordan

a) STORE.EXE at 100% CPU is not normal. Typical values for a well used
system would be 30 to 50% CPU.
b) STORE.EXE can take close to 100% of memory without a worry - but NOT CPU.
c) Stop and start the Information Store if you like - it sounds as though it
wouldn't do any harm and may do some good. But NOT when the backups are
running.
d) What version of Exchange, what Service Packs and what hot fixes are you
running?

Cheers, Chris

-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 July 2002 14:58
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup


I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt (Q272570). 
Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to 2:00
if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this would be
too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just don't know.

 Why would you want to do that?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the
 information store while the backup is running.
 
 
  Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
  supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
  
  But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the backup
of
  the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
  
  The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is only
  backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
  
  Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
  The queues are not backing up.
  Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange
  directories are being skipped.
  Nothing new has been added or removed from the server.
  There is no delay when stopping or starting the information store.
  No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has not not responded.
  Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
  
  Nt server 4.0 sp6a
  Exchange 5.5 sp3
  NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
  
  ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l
  c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
  
  I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no body
and
  no subject starting at the time the backup starts
  
  Mike
 
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Mike Omilian

Trend server protect - file-based with the all exchange directories being
skipped.  Mail Essentials is on the server also with it's
anti-virus/content checking protection.  Haven't any problems with that in
the 3 years it's been on.

 What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
 Tech Consultant
 hp Services
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
 (Q272570). 
 Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
 there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
 shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
 2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
 would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
 don't know.
 
  Why would you want to do that?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the 
  information store while the backup is running.
  
  
   Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
   supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
   
   But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the 
   backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
   
   The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is 
   only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
   
   Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
   The queues are not backing up.
   Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange 
   directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed
 
   from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the 
   information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has 
   not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
   
   Nt server 4.0 sp6a
   Exchange 5.5 sp3
   NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
   
   ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
   c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
   
   I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no 
   body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts
   
   Mike
  
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Mike Omilian

(a) On the Task Manager - CPU is 100%.  
(b) The physical memory is as follows:
Total 392Mb
Avail 110-112Mb
File Cache 26Mb
(c) Stopping and starting helps, but then it creeps right back up to 100%
(d) Exchange 5.5 sp3 and post 6a security rollup.


 a) STORE.EXE at 100% CPU is not normal. Typical values for a well used
 system would be 30 to 50% CPU.
 b) STORE.EXE can take close to 100% of memory without a worry - but NOT CPU.
 c) Stop and start the Information Store if you like - it sounds as though it
 wouldn't do any harm and may do some good. But NOT when the backups are
 running.
 d) What version of Exchange, what Service Packs and what hot fixes are you
 running?
 
 Cheers, Chris
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 July 2002 14:58
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt (Q272570).
 Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
 there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
 shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to 2:00
 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this would be
 too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just don't know.
 
  Why would you want to do that?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the
  information store while the backup is running.
  
  
   Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
   supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
   
   But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the backup
 of
   the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
   
   The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is only
   backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
   
   Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
   The queues are not backing up.
   Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange
   directories are being skipped.
   Nothing new has been added or removed from the server.
   There is no delay when stopping or starting the information store.
   No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has not not responded.
   Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
   
   Nt server 4.0 sp6a
   Exchange 5.5 sp3
   NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
   
   ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l
   c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
   
   I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no body
 and
   no subject starting at the time the backup starts
   
   Mike
  
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Andy David

What happens if you disable both of them?
Also, Anything interesting in the event logs?


-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup


Trend server protect - file-based with the all exchange directories being
skipped.  Mail Essentials is on the server also with it's
anti-virus/content checking protection.  Haven't any problems with that in
the 3 years it's been on.

 What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
 Tech Consultant
 hp Services
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
 (Q272570). 
 Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
 there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
 shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
 2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
 would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
 don't know.
 
  Why would you want to do that?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the 
  information store while the backup is running.
  
  
   Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
   supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
   
   But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the 
   backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
   
   The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is 
   only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
   
   Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
   The queues are not backing up.
   Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange 
   directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed
 
   from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the 
   information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has 
   not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
   
   Nt server 4.0 sp6a
   Exchange 5.5 sp3
   NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
   
   ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
   c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
   
   I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no 
   body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts
   
   Mike
  
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Mike Omilian

Haven't tried to disable them both yet - I can only imagine the crap my
users will open now!

Nothing interesting in the event logs for NT backup and Exchange, but I
just did notice an error for the Jet database:
Event ID: 0
Source: Jet
Type: error
Category: (4)

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( JET ) could not be found.
It contains the following insertion string(s): , (918) , Unexpected Win32
error:  0x10B.

but I looked on EventID and others but couldn't find anything on this.



 What happens if you disable both of them?
 Also, Anything interesting in the event logs?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 Trend server protect - file-based with the all exchange directories being
 skipped.  Mail Essentials is on the server also with it's
 anti-virus/content checking protection.  Haven't any problems with that in
 the 3 years it's been on.
 
  What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
  Tech Consultant
  hp Services
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
  (Q272570). 
  Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
  there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
  shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
  2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
  would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
  don't know.
  
   Why would you want to do that?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
   
   
   Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the 
   information store while the backup is running.
   
   
Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.

But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the 
backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.

The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is
only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).

Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
The queues are not backing up.
Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange 
directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed
  
from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the 
information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has
not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs

Nt server 4.0 sp6a
Exchange 5.5 sp3
NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:

ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal

I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no 
body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts

Mike
   
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Andy David

And you havent made any changes or run any Exchange utilities on the
database recently? 
This just started all of a sudden? 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup


Haven't tried to disable them both yet - I can only imagine the crap my
users will open now!

Nothing interesting in the event logs for NT backup and Exchange, but I
just did notice an error for the Jet database:
Event ID: 0
Source: Jet
Type: error
Category: (4)

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( JET ) could not be found.
It contains the following insertion string(s): , (918) , Unexpected Win32
error:  0x10B.

but I looked on EventID and others but couldn't find anything on this.



 What happens if you disable both of them?
 Also, Anything interesting in the event logs?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 Trend server protect - file-based with the all exchange directories being
 skipped.  Mail Essentials is on the server also with it's
 anti-virus/content checking protection.  Haven't any problems with that in
 the 3 years it's been on.
 
  What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
  Tech Consultant
  hp Services
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
  (Q272570). 
  Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
  there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
  shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
  2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
  would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
  don't know.
  
   Why would you want to do that?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup
   
   
   Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the 
   information store while the backup is running.
   
   
Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.

But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the 
backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.

The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is
only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).

Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
The queues are not backing up.
Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange 
directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed
  
from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the 
information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has
not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs

Nt server 4.0 sp6a
Exchange 5.5 sp3
NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:

ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal

I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no 
body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts

Mike
   
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RE: Store.exe and NT backup

2002-07-12 Thread Mike Omilian

Correct.  I haven't made any changes, run any utilities or added/deleted
any programs.

One morning, I tried to eject the tape after a backup and nothing would
happen.  I logged onto the server and the backup was still running.  I
thought that was odd because it about 12 hours after the backup had
started.  There was nothing in the event logs and nothing stood out of the
ordinary.  No one else has access to the server but myself.

 And you havent made any changes or run any Exchange utilities on the
 database recently? 
 This just started all of a sudden? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
 
 
 Haven't tried to disable them both yet - I can only imagine the crap my
 users will open now!
 
 Nothing interesting in the event logs for NT backup and Exchange, but I
 just did notice an error for the Jet database:
 Event ID: 0
 Source: Jet
 Type: error
 Category: (4)
 
 The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( JET ) could not be found.
 It contains the following insertion string(s): , (918) , Unexpected Win32
 error:  0x10B.
 
 but I looked on EventID and others but couldn't find anything on this.
 
 
 
  What happens if you disable both of them?
  Also, Anything interesting in the event logs?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:37 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
  
  
  Trend server protect - file-based with the all exchange directories being
  skipped.  Mail Essentials is on the server also with it's
  anti-virus/content checking protection.  Haven't any problems with that in
  the 3 years it's been on.
  
   What antivirus product are you running?  File-based or Exchange-aware?
   
   Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
   Tech Consultant
   hp Services
   Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Omilian
   Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:58 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Store.exe and NT backup
   
   
   I was reading a Technet articles that the store may be corrupt
   (Q272570). 
   Even though the criteria listed doesn't all match us, I was wondering if
   there could still be corruption.  Since we don't work any 2nd or 3rd
   shifts here, I didn't think too much would be missed from 11:00pm to
   2:00 if the information store was stopped.  It didn't seem like this
   would be too bad to try to troubleshoot, but I could be wrong.  I just
   don't know.
   
Why would you want to do that?


-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Store.exe and NT backup


Forgot one thing - The only thing I haven't tried is stopping the
information store while the backup is running.


 Our store.exe is running at 100%.  I know this is normal that NT is
 supposed to take the resources from that as it needs it.
 
 But for the past 3 weeks, it is now taking over 10 hours for the
 backup of the exchange server when it used to be done in about 3.
 
 The priv.edb is only 565M and the pub.edb is 21 M.  The backup is
 only backing up about 4.5G in total (user directories).
 
 Response time in Outlook 2000 is not slow.
 The queues are not backing up.
 Trend Serverprotect is running on that server, but the exchange
 directories are being skipped. Nothing new has been added or removed
   
 from the server. There is no delay when stopping or starting the
 information store. No errors (Dr. Watson) have happened and it has
 not not responded. Nothing out of the ordinary in the event logs
 
 Nt server 4.0 sp6a
 Exchange 5.5 sp3
 NTbackup using AT command for backup with the following .bat file:
 
 ntbackup backup c: e: ds \\server1 is \\server1 /v /b /e /l 
 c:\backup\backup.log /hc:on /t normal
 
 I have also started receiving about 80-100 blank e-mails with no
 body and no subject starting at the time the backup starts
 
 Mike

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