RE: Tape Storage
For our blank tapes, we use a 5' high tape rack, nothing fancy. For used tapes, a fire-proof[1] box for local storage and transport to off-site. [1] Make sure that it is rated for tape media. Plastic melts well before paper burns. If you already have a safe you can also get an insert for the tapes. -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)
Three. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection) Mr. Owl, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop ? -Original Message- From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection) Hello, To Hi-jack this thread: Does anyone now the distance your Off-Site Tapes should be from your production site to be immune from the EMP effects of a suit case nuke (say one capable of a 10 Kilo-ton blast), and exploded from an airline 20-40K feet? From Quantum http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/0223zfbgjbxzcvdmecdk/dlttapemedia.pd f DLT tape magnetic properties: Coercivity (Oe) 1540 Remanence (G) 2,600 Someone care to do the math/physics that a distance X from the blast would keep the EMP effects below 1/2 that of the Coercivity of DLT? Thanks, Brent -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage
Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage
Fire safe for one week. Shipped off-site every Friday. Every Friday they bring me back 8-week old tapes for me to use the following Monday. They can have my tapes back here in one hour in an emergency (and I just had one). :( -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage
We use a place called The Lock-up here in Chicago. They have a fireproof storage facility out in the suburbs (more than 30 miles away), and they come and pick up our tapes every morning. Every tape has gets a little barcode on it, so they're easy to retrieve, and they'll use any tape rotation system you want. I think The Lock-up a national chain, and there are certainly plenty of other good storage companies out there. :::Ryan Malayter, MCSE :::Bank Administration Institute :::Chicago, Illinois, USA -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)
Hello, To Hi-jack this thread: Does anyone now the distance your Off-Site Tapes should be from your production site to be immune from the EMP effects of a suit case nuke (say one capable of a 10 Kilo-ton blast), and exploded from an airline 20-40K feet? From Quantum http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/0223zfbgjbxzcvdmecdk/dlttapemedia.pd f DLT tape magnetic properties: Coercivity (Oe) 1540 Remanence (G) 2,600 Someone care to do the math/physics that a distance X from the blast would keep the EMP effects below 1/2 that of the Coercivity of DLT? Thanks, Brent -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)
Mr. Owl, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop ? -Original Message- From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection) Hello, To Hi-jack this thread: Does anyone now the distance your Off-Site Tapes should be from your production site to be immune from the EMP effects of a suit case nuke (say one capable of a 10 Kilo-ton blast), and exploded from an airline 20-40K feet? From Quantum http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/0223zfbgjbxzcvdmecdk/dlttapemedia.pd f DLT tape magnetic properties: Coercivity (Oe) 1540 Remanence (G) 2,600 Someone care to do the math/physics that a distance X from the blast would keep the EMP effects below 1/2 that of the Coercivity of DLT? Thanks, Brent -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)
42? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MS Exchange List Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection) Hello, To Hi-jack this thread: Does anyone now the distance your Off-Site Tapes should be from your production site to be immune from the EMP effects of a suit case nuke (say one capable of a 10 Kilo-ton blast), and exploded from an airline 20-40K feet? From Quantum http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/0223zfbgjbxzcvdmecdk/dlttapemedia.pd f DLT tape magnetic properties: Coercivity (Oe) 1540 Remanence (G) 2,600 Someone care to do the math/physics that a distance X from the blast would keep the EMP effects below 1/2 that of the Coercivity of DLT? Thanks, Brent -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tape Storage Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
