RE: Why would an email?

2002-07-01 Thread Rob Loren

Do you have a Cisco firewall with the command fixup protocol smtp 25
that's what killed me

 -Original Message-
From:   Stidley, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Why would an email?

Are you doing any SMTP proxying or filtering on your firewall or are you
using a SMTP gateway product?  It sounds like the server sending you the
email is trying your first MX and then trying the second MX record and
it then goes through.

If this is a case (you can verify with the message headers) check your
first SMTP server to make sure that it isn't doing any SMTP based
filtering on that server.  You also may be able to turn up logging and
search for communication with the incoming server.

ssfhs.org   MX preference = 20, mail exchanger = relay1.iquest.net
ssfhs.org   MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = ais.smtp.ssfhs.org

Joel Stidley

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?

Or a lack of MX records... Some mail server out there can still mail to
your
A record, but some will not.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


MX record pointing to your mail server possibly. I had this exact
problem
only I was trying to send to an organization. Some mail would go
through,
some mail would fail. Turned out my ISP DNS servers had two MX records
for
the recipient and one of them was wrong. It only happened on this one
particular domain. It is possible the organization in question for you
has a
problem on their DNS finding your correct MX server. After doing some
recursive queries it is finally finding your MX server. Just a thought.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could
see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo
account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What
is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo
account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs
and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-27 Thread Stidley, Joel

Are you doing any SMTP proxying or filtering on your firewall or are you
using a SMTP gateway product?  It sounds like the server sending you the
email is trying your first MX and then trying the second MX record and
it then goes through.

If this is a case (you can verify with the message headers) check your
first SMTP server to make sure that it isn't doing any SMTP based
filtering on that server.  You also may be able to turn up logging and
search for communication with the incoming server.

ssfhs.org   MX preference = 20, mail exchanger = relay1.iquest.net
ssfhs.org   MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = ais.smtp.ssfhs.org

Joel Stidley

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?

Or a lack of MX records... Some mail server out there can still mail to
your
A record, but some will not.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


MX record pointing to your mail server possibly. I had this exact
problem
only I was trying to send to an organization. Some mail would go
through,
some mail would fail. Turned out my ISP DNS servers had two MX records
for
the recipient and one of them was wrong. It only happened on this one
particular domain. It is possible the organization in question for you
has a
problem on their DNS finding your correct MX server. After doing some
recursive queries it is finally finding your MX server. Just a thought.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could
see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo
account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What
is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo
account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs
and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Ely, Don

Because the universe is not in synch??

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that outside person and asked for a
reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see if I was having networking
problems. I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from
this outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my Outlook account finally got the message
after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa and the messages are received on a
timely bases.  I have checked my logs and see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Durkee, Peter

Have a look at the times in the headers to see where the delay is occurring.

-Peter


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From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Andy David

I know an excellent administrator in Indiana who could solve all of your
problems.


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Mitchell Mike

Thanks Andy..  I appreciate all the moral support that you can give me.  I
am really trying
and hopefully someday this list will forgive me my tirades.  I sometimes get
frustrated like
all of you do and just can't control myself.  I have apologized before and
will do so again.
I am sorry if I offended anyone but it was one of those things.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


I know an excellent administrator in Indiana who could solve all of your
problems.


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Ed Esgro

MX record pointing to your mail server possibly. I had this exact problem
only I was trying to send to an organization. Some mail would go through,
some mail would fail. Turned out my ISP DNS servers had two MX records for
the recipient and one of them was wrong. It only happened on this one
particular domain. It is possible the organization in question for you has a
problem on their DNS finding your correct MX server. After doing some
recursive queries it is finally finding your MX server. Just a thought.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?

Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Finch Brett

 Well I have a YAHOO account as well, sometimes a delay happens but as you
mentioned, it works. I hate to ask but you did ensure (since it is only 1
person) that there is no filtering rule on the client, sending e-mail from
this outside user to oblivion?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that outside person and asked for a
reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see if I was having networking
problems. I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from
this outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my Outlook account finally got the message
after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa and the messages are received on a
timely bases.  I have checked my logs and see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Mitchell Mike

Yes.  I checked for filters and rules and there are none.

I also had the outside user send the messages to me with the same delays...
Seemed liked days, even
though it was only hours. 

  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June, 2002 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


 Well I have a YAHOO account as well, sometimes a delay happens but as you
mentioned, it works. I hate to ask but you did ensure (since it is only 1
person) that there is no filtering rule on the client, sending e-mail from
this outside user to oblivion?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that outside person and asked for a
reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see if I was having networking
problems. I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from
this outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my Outlook account finally got the message
after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa and the messages are received on a
timely bases.  I have checked my logs and see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Why would an email?

2002-06-18 Thread Andy David

Heck, nothing offends me! 
I would have the admin of the external site check his/her queues/DNS/Have
them telnet into your mail server etc...


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


Thanks Andy..  I appreciate all the moral support that you can give me.  I
am really trying
and hopefully someday this list will forgive me my tirades.  I sometimes get
frustrated like
all of you do and just can't control myself.  I have apologized before and
will do so again.
I am sorry if I offended anyone but it was one of those things.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would an email?


I know an excellent administrator in Indiana who could solve all of your
problems.


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Why would an email?


Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 sp4 

I have a user that claims they are not receiving eMAILs from one person
outside the organization.  I emailed that
outside person and asked for a reply.  I cc: my Yahoo account so I could see
if I was having networking problems.
I have checked this person's mailbox and there is no messages from this
outside person. 

The outside person received my eMAIL and replied to all.  My Yahoo account
got the reply just like that but my
Outlook account finally got the message after 4 1/2 hours...  WOW.  What is
up with that?  I have checked 
my queues and nothing is backed up.  I can send eMAIL to my Yahoo account
from my Outlook account and vice versa
and the messages are received on a timely bases.  I have checked my logs and
see nothing strange.

Has anyone had a similar problem? Please help me out. 

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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