RE: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange

2002-06-26 Thread Roger Seielstad

Drop a relay in the DMZ - either *nix or Win2k running IIS's SMTP service
will work fine.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Exchange Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange
 
 
 I am curious as to what is the best practices to utilize a DMZ and
 Exchange 2000.  I am trying to avoide opening up port 25 to 
 my internal
 network where my exchange server is.  I don't want to put the exchange
 server on the DMZ.  So what are the most secure solutions.  
 Should I go
 with a front end back end solution, or could I put a unix 
 smtp server on
 the dmz that queued the mail for the exchange server?
 
 Any input would be appreciated
 
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RE: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange

2002-06-25 Thread Chris Scharff

Put %smtp relay% wherever you'd like it to be. DMZ is fine.

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 Subject: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange
 
 I am curious as to what is the best practices to utilize a DMZ and
 Exchange 2000.  I am trying to avoide opening up port 25 to my internal
 network where my exchange server is.  I don't want to put the exchange
 server on the DMZ.  So what are the most secure solutions.  Should I go
 with a front end back end solution, or could I put a unix smtp server on
 the dmz that queued the mail for the exchange server?


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RE: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange

2002-06-25 Thread Andrew Hitchcock

I've had a lot of success with stand-alone servers in the DMZ
- throw an AV scanner on it and relay inbound mail through it
- throw ISA on it and publish OWA there; you can even terminate the SSL
connection there if you are so inclined.
- the nice thing about stand alone servers is that you don't need to
open up a bunch of holes to the inside so a member server can talk to
the domain
- ISA doesn't need AD to publish OWA

front-end back-end is only helpful if you have multiple mailbox servers
and you want to provide a service like POP/IMAP/OWA externally.

Front-end servers in the DMZ = exchange servers in the DMZ = member
servers in the DMZ = lots-o-wholes b/t DMZ and internal network.

I prefer to keep all the exchange servers inside and publish them via
ISA.

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Put %smtp relay% wherever you'd like it to be. DMZ is fine.

 -Original Message-
 From: Exchange Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Best Practice to utilize a DMZ with Exchange
 
 I am curious as to what is the best practices to utilize a DMZ and
 Exchange 2000.  I am trying to avoide opening up port 25 to my
internal
 network where my exchange server is.  I don't want to put the exchange
 server on the DMZ.  So what are the most secure solutions.  Should I
go
 with a front end back end solution, or could I put a unix smtp server
on
 the dmz that queued the mail for the exchange server?


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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread William Lefkovics

What logs do you mean?

William

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Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar

I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

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Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Schotanus

mdbdata

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Subject: RE: best practice


What logs do you mean?

William

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Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Schotanus

do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
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Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

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Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread William Lefkovics

The transaction logs.

You don't 'keep' them.  They are purged with a successful full online
backup.  

What are you doing for backups?

William


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Subject: RE: best practice


mdbdata

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


What logs do you mean?

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread William Lefkovics

A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
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Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Schotanus

well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread William Lefkovics

Well, then you might consider message tracking and keep those logs, because
the logs in MDBDATA are not going to help you.

William


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Schotanus

I'll have a look, might get back about this subject though...

Cheers, 
Kim

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


Well, then you might consider message tracking and keep those logs,
because
the logs in MDBDATA are not going to help you.

William


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread William Lefkovics

If message tracking is enabled, those logs would be located in
\\exchsrvr\tracking.log.  They can be used to determine message flow within
your exchange site.  They are viewable in Excel as well as the Message
Tracking function in Exchange.

The logs in MDBDATA are transaction logs where data is written before being
added to the information store.  You really should consider a backup.  Your
subject requests a best practice, yet you do not have a backup solution in
place?  Even run NTBackup on the server.  

Please get back.  I'd love to hear more.

William 

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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:38 AM
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Subject: RE: best practice


I'll have a look, might get back about this subject though...

Cheers, 
Kim

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


Well, then you might consider message tracking and keep those logs,
because
the logs in MDBDATA are not going to help you.

William


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


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* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
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Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Setmajer, Jerzy

What a fine advertisement you would make for Microsoft.
Never backed up the system and it works fine  - what a brave fellow you
are. :=)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

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Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Andy David

Yea, If I was renovating my entire domain I wouldnt make any backups
beforehand either...


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From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


What a fine advertisement you would make for Microsoft.
Never backed up the system and it works fine  - what a brave fellow you
are. :=)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Chinnery Paul

ROFLMAO

That's great! I love it!

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


Yea, If I was renovating my entire domain I wouldnt make any backups
beforehand either...


-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


What a fine advertisement you would make for Microsoft.
Never backed up the system and it works fine  - what a brave fellow you
are. :=)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Schotanus

touch wood...

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


What a fine advertisement you would make for Microsoft.
Never backed up the system and it works fine  - what a brave fellow
you
are. :=)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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RE: best practice

2002-04-18 Thread Andy David

In public? 
In front of everyone?


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


touch wood...

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


What a fine advertisement you would make for Microsoft.
Never backed up the system and it works fine  - what a brave fellow
you
are. :=)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


well, they want it all to be kept, euhhh for backups I don't do anything
at the moment as I'm awaiting a renovation of our entire domain
(hardware)...

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


A year ago?

I would consider that an unrealistic request.  If our email policy
addressed
this need, I might restore an old backup from the time to a recovery
server.

If the destination is internal, I would assume it delivered.  If it's
external, there is no way to know.

William

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


do anyone of you ever get asked that a mail of a year old has actually
been delivered to a destination?
I don't have those logs anymore...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: best practice


I like keeping Exchange logs at least until I run a full backup ...:-)

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2002 09:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: best practice


Hi, 

looking for some advice on what to do with exchange logs, 
* how long do most of you keep your logs
* how do you keep them (tape, CD, on the server)
...

thanks, 
Kim

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