Re: [expert] Anyone get flash player 6 working under mandrake 9.2?
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:49:30 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded flash player 6 from macromedia download site and install it on mandrake 9.2. It used to work on mandrake 9.0 with mozilla 1.1 but not 9.2 with mozilla 1.4. Anyone get this work? Thanks, Make sure it didn't put the libs in either /usr/lib/netscape/plugin or/usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/ Had that happen to me and had to move the files it created to the right place. Yes, but I am trying to get it going with Konq in 9.2, and even though I have added the generic location, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins, and I still can't get konq to use it??? -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Working here with Opera and Moz. I did the install from their site and followed directions (this time). It's against my nature. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Print to PDF question . . .
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:27:01 +0100 Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I print to PDF file - where does it end up? Thx, R.Fox -- Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Consulting Services Mine end up in home directory Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:18:33 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 19 Oct 2003 7:51 pm, Charlie M. wrote: While I was away several people told me that they were just doing something quite normal, 'and then I got the virus. And I had done what Microsoft said in their message'. I know it's ridiculous expecting virus writers to play fair, but this particular scam is the one most likely to trap otherwise wary people. Aarrgghhh! I'm not usually a violent person, but I'd like to hang, draw and quarter the person that thought this one up. Anne Thanks for an opportunity to join a rant Anne. (-; The sad part is that so many people will be taken in by such transparent social engineering crap. I spend more time de-worming infected Windows boxes than I do at anything else, and I'm not even trying to make a living at it. My daughter gets her email through Mozilla on windows98. She carefully deletes everything that she doesn't recognise as genuine mail. She runs antivirus and keeps it up to date. Still she keeps getting virused emails in from the people who are on a mailing group that she must use - the av software tells her it's there, but it's too late. They can't fully activate, of course, under Mozilla, as they can't launch the appropriate M$ apps to do it, but they still manage to corrupt several files each time. The cab files are always corrupted, and so is a java file. Occasionally there's one or two more - this time there were two downloaded zip files corrupted. Quite apart from the time I spend on this, it makes me very angry that she takes every precaution a non-geek can be expected to take, and yet still she suffers this regularly. As to where they come from - I think without exception they have come from people who send their mails through their work account, in local hospitals! Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Treat her to VMware. I've got my brother running on Linux with win2k on VMware. He hasn't managed to break anything in 6 days (and counting). That may be a record. Saves a mint in upgrades (win and anti-virus junk), and protects us all from one more carrier. The only safe windows is isolated from the 'net. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:16:16 -0400 Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:31 pm, rikona wrote: snip Two machines, or dual boot? Run MS Publisher only when she MUST do it, and run ONLY that on Win. Email, surf, news, etc, in linux. Good advice, but isn't it a litle hypocritical for someone who uses The Bat, a Windows e-mail client? -- cmg That's not hypocritical. It's fearless. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:33:46 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 20:06, Jack Coates wrote: On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 13:36, Lee Wiggers wrote: ... Treat her to VMware. I've got my brother running on Linux with win2k on VMware. He hasn't managed to break anything in 6 days (and counting). That may be a record. Saves a mint in upgrades (win and anti-virus junk), and protects us all from one more carrier. The only safe windows is isolated from the 'net. Lee I love VMWare. It's saved me more trouble than I can name. Aside from the obvious joy of watching BSODs be contained to an application window, VMware makes a real backup of Windows very easy. I rsync my home directory every night; if Windows gets too fubar'ed to fix, I just rsync yesterday's disk image back over the current one. Someone earlier in the rant mentioned the concept of getting rid of every shred of non OS winBS on the box. Well it's possible. Remove Outbound excess and then to get rid of IE go here. http://www.litepc.com/ then to finish up install Mozilla or Opera, and then TheBat and have fun in you cleaner lighter (and faster) windows. James Lite works. My prob is one of the two apps tying me to winslop requires Outlook 6 or better (worse) to load. Anyone know how to cure Act! of this outrageous behavior? Lite takes fully half of the crap out of win2k. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Upgrade from LAN?
Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Upgrade from LAN?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:39:26 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 09:21, Lee Wiggers wrote: Now that I have 5 boxes on 9.1 and 9.2 altogether, I have a question. Can I somehow open the ISO's in a directory available to all boxes on my network and upgrade from there? Lee mount -t iso9660 -o loop myisoimage /mnt/point -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Thanks, Jack -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0?
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:35:52 +0800 (CST) Vincent Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0 available? I prefer to upgrade using RPM. If RPM is not available, will it cause any problem if I use OO's installer? Thanks, - _C Yahoo! _C___B_B_R_A___A___b_H__ http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html I can only say that there is a 1.1rc4 somewhere. I got it on an update two weeks ago. I also have installed oo from the oo installer with no problems, but was on mdk 9.1 at the time. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0?
On 16 Oct 2003 19:28:42 +1000 Gary Hodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:35:52 +0800 (CST) Vincent Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0 available? I prefer to upgrade using RPM. If RPM is not available, will it cause any problem if I use OO's installer? Thanks, - _C Yahoo! _C___B_B_R_A___A___b_H__ http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html I can only say that there is a 1.1rc4 somewhere. I got it on an update two weeks ago. I also have installed oo from the oo installer with no problems, but was on mdk 9.1 at the time. Lee I have 1.1rc3 installed on mdk 9.0 and 9.1 with no problems at all using the oo installer. Now off to get rc4... Gary. rc5's out, which I think is the final. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0?
On 16 Oct 2003 21:47:02 +1000 Gary Hodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 20:44, Lee Wiggers wrote: On 16 Oct 2003 19:28:42 +1000 Gary Hodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:35:52 +0800 (CST) Vincent Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all Is there OpenOffice 1.1 RPM for mandrake 9.0 available? I prefer to upgrade using RPM. If RPM is not available, will it cause any problem if I use OO's installer? Thanks, - _C Yahoo! _C___B_B_R_A___A___b_H__ http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html I can only say that there is a 1.1rc4 somewhere. I got it on an update two weeks ago. I also have installed oo from the oo installer with no problems, but was on mdk 9.1 at the time. Lee I have 1.1rc3 installed on mdk 9.0 and 9.1 with no problems at all using the oo installer. Now off to get rc4... Gary. rc5's out, which I think is the final. Lee I now have 1.1 final :) Gary. It's a winner. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] linux complient notebooks
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:04:51 +0530 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Dell 1100 dual boot 9.1/win2k and VMware win2k all working fine. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sylpheed looses its default settings
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:18:08 + Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:46:24 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trait. Every time the PC is booted when I open sylpheed for the first time it always complains that it can't find the address book and about ecery other time it makes me go through the full first time setup. This can only occur if something is altering your ~.sylpheed/ It is not the program itself which is causing this. Among the some of the possible causes of this occurring are, improper shutdown, failure to close sylpheed before shutdown, bad sectors on hd, improperly configured X-server, faulty power/connection. Run boot and shutdown in verbose mode, you might be able to spot the cause there. It might be best for you to install with an rpm built for mandrake. Charles has a sylpheed 9.6 rpm that he gracously made available to us: http://www.eslrahc.com/ (What's with the site bein all pretty, Charles? :) Well my build a page for me challenge was accepted by John Willby who graciously built and sent me the code this week which I happily uploaded today. Charles Looks very nice, Charles/John Very nice indeed. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ML9.1: Why did Mandrake put restrictions on using KDE as root? (Konqueror timeout errors)
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:32:52 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 4, 2003 02:50 am, Anne Wilson wrote: [..] And if you don't like to use the command line, use File Manager, Super User. Shut it down when you've finished, but you can safely leave it open until you have finished and tested what you are doing. Anne Of course in 9.2 you'll have to *make* FM Super User mode first. It seems to have been disappeared. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:30:21 up 13 days, 22:51, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.21, 0.53 Shick's Law: There is no problem a good miracle can't solve. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fugwG11CaRuZZSIRAtvAAJ9MBNP6xUC+PSUtnxnduNuzJSY4JQCfZ6gm qzf0CJIEBUoYQK4sw2p2EeU= =8jYI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Seems a lot of stuff disappeared from 9.2 default desktop. If this is another good for the simple user kind of thing, should I be insulted? I thought I only felt simple. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NIC interrupts
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:18:07 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 25 Sep 2003 12:47 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi Eric thanks for the help, I spent a considerable time on the phone last night to my friend and its now sorted. As you suggested forcing noacpi worked, suprisingly the onboard card was also fucnctional, so now just 1 NIC ( onboard built in ethernet adaptor). running on INT 9 Richard, if I'm understanding you, you are saying that an on-board nic is working fine? The reason I ask is that most people advise not attempting it. If you know of one that works, could you put a line or two on the TWiki? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I've got one on a PC Chips 820 mb that works fine. I didn't know it wasn't supposed to. Where's my hammer Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:35 +0800 Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books.. I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what they'd have to do to get that sort of exposure. rgds Franki What a memory. I started with Linux for Dummies and Red Hat. Six weeks later I chucked the project feeling really stupid. I needed Linux for the Dummy's Dummies. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:25:05 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 11:31 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: 9.2 is supposed to go final RSN (Monday?), but neither the Mandrake home page nor the Mandrake Store have any mention about accepting orders for it. There's a thread on the Club Forum about this (and yes, I did add my two cents worth), but no response has been forthcoming from anyone at Mandrake. How's this for marketing skills: I've bought every PowerPack since 8.1 through the Store, and I've been a Club member (Silver) since January, 2002. What's wrong the Store sending an email asking if I want to reserve my copy now? Arg... Perhaps they have had enough of the criticism from people who pre-order and then get their boxes late or never. Maybe this is their way of fixing the Store. Another thought, IIRC, one of the main reasons to pre-order was cash flow. Let us charge your card now and we'll ship later. Perhaps this is a good sign that they do not need the cash flow from pre-orders. Or perhaps they are broke because they don't try to make money? Watching Mandrake shoot itself in the foot over and over again, marketing-wise has been the most unpleasant part of my mdk experience over the past 3 years. The corporate they sure have big feet. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 13:39, Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote: Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided the world with a comparable, more profitable linux distribution suggests that, notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these lists are not the likely source of the proper tough decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate environment. well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut, eh, ralphy boy? LOL! anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will try to keep it down a bit. This isn't usenet. The above comments are not appropriate for this forum. You may disagree with what he had to say, and that's fine, but to use that language is entirely unacceptable. Do not do it again. Saying shutup was I admit unbecoming. Sorry. within 2 weeks I will be losing house car, internet etc etc. Yet I'm sitting here running multiple boxes with MDK and every single one of them is running Mandrake that is bought and paid for, and bought and paid for, for that box. So to say the least I resent the implications that I or any one else is not doing enough for Mandrake. This is one of the reasons I won't be running 9.2. I can't afford it. Is MDK shooting itself in the foot. Quite often . yes. If they weren't they wouldn't have gotten into the mess they are in, in the first place. Some of the responsible parties are gone. Some are not. Granted they aren't as brilliant as SCO or Verisign. But they have made some monumental blunders over the last 6 years. They have also made some tremendously good moves. However one thing I've noticed in every nuance of this thread. People are complaining about not having enough access to BUY Mandrake. Not that they have to, but that they can't, or that if they can it's an extreme hassle. I'm reminded of a story my father told about one day about 11am he began to wonder why they hadn't seen a customer for about an hour. Since it was an extremly hot day most of the sales people where not hanging out close to the front windows, rather further back into the store where the air conditioning was working better. Turns out the reason was simple. The gate (pull down style) had malfunctioned and came crashing down making it look like the store was closed. The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors need to be open to customers. James My point exactly...entirely. I understand the passionate defense. I don't understand the lack of product. Mandrake is far better at giving things away than selling them. That's not a bad thing. Think I'll go lurk for a couple of more years. I get smarter listening than talking. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:44:31 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] The moral of the story is. In order to sell a product the doors need to be open to customers. James My point exactly...entirely. I understand the passionate defense. I don't understand the lack of product. Mandrake is far better at giving things away than selling them. That's not a bad thing. Think I'll go lurk for a couple of more years. I get smarter listening than talking. Lee I thought the link to the Shareholders newsletter and the direct quote in my post provided some explanation for the changing face of Mandrake's distribution channels. Wobo, IIRC, also has alluded to the possibly risky capital investment needed for box production/distribution having made that avenue less of a short-term solution. Have these suggestions no credibility? That quote from the newsletter, in part: Consolidated gross margins for the first half year increased by 24%. This significant increase reflects an important change in revenue sources: # Increase in high margin revenue lines such as OEM, on-line sales and subscriptions to MandrakeLinux Users Club (from 40% to 63% of consolidated revenue), # Decrease in retail sales (from 51% to 27% of consolidated revenue). Rolf Damn lurking is harder than talking. Rolf, I don't disagree with you, but my experiences with boxed sets, club, that mdk store, and the voices of many others still leave me with the feeling than mdk gives far better than they sell. The product is superior, the marketing is underwhelming. I swear that's my last word. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:20:36 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avi Schwartz wrote: [..] need this extra help. One nice touch SuSE has is a small icon in the KDE task bar which changes color when there are updates available. Click on it and you get a menu allowing you to check for updates, show the last update log or start the update process. very nice, clean and can help users keep their system safe. Avi In cooker contrib/, there is such an app that has been recently written, mutray: MUTray sits in the KDE system tray, and displays a notification when there are new updates. It can then install the packages with urpmi. I think the binary will work in 9.1 or rebuild the contrib/SRPMS/mutray-0.3-2mdk.src.rpm package. Rolf Sylpheed-Claws has such a plug-in to tell me when I have mail. Scared me to death the first time everything flashed. Thought kde had suffered a cardiac thing. I unplugged it. I always have new mail. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Apache2 Probs
On 18 Sep 2003 12:51:07 +1000 Mark Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Found a problem with a Apache2 on Mandrake if somehow Apache2 was not shut down correctly, it will leave a file /var/log/httpd/ssl_scache .. If that file exists while the server is trying to start, Apache2 will fail to start.. It's a rather tricky problem.. at this moment I am looking at ways to guarantee if that file exists and if Apache2 is being started, and if Apache2 is not already running, it should clean up that file before it is started, and that way Apache2 will start.. Would anyone have the cleanest way of doing this, or any ideas on this. Cheers Mark Mark This past two weeks I have had several ugly shutdowns, power out, cron error I'm still looking for, and a couple of dumb moves. Apache2 has restarted without a problem on boot. Just adding info. 9.1, xfs Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake's visibility
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:08:49 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have moved to a new thread, in the hope that someone at MandrakeSoft, or at least, someone in touch with MandrakeSoft, might see it. On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 1:05 am, Bill wrote: Why is it when I go to my local Fry's I see rows of Red Hat boxes some BSD boxes and Slackware CD's but never see Mandrake boxes. I would gladly purchase Mandrake instead of downloading it if it was in the stores. Seems to me that Mandrake needs to get there product out on the shelves. I can purchase Red Hat all over the place here in Silicon Valley but Mandrake is hard to find. Why is that? Before Mandrake starts in with the adware they need to make sure there product is out on the shelves next to Red Hat. I really would like to see some authorative statement as to why Mandrake has this visibility problem. Linux has little shelf-space in the UK, but I have *never* seen a Mandrake box. Similarly, Linux Format is just about all we have in the magazine line, and while they give the Mandrake distros on their disks they obviously know little about it, as many statements they make in their Q A pages are inaccurate. I don't suppose anyone from MandrakeSoft is reading the Mandrake and Advertising. thread any more, but if we knew why there was a visibility problem we might have a better idea of how to combat it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I remember seeing 8.0 in CompUSA long after 8.2 was out and wondering who would buy it that way. A new user might, but I know I spent a good deal of time on the net researching distros before I chose mdk. At that point there was no way I would have bought last years version. It probably died on the shelf. No merchant reorder (the staff of life) Also, after buying my first boxed set (8.2), and finding the book poorly written and physically a piece of dung (Pages fell out), I wouldn't have recommended the on the shelf version to anyone. Shelf appeal and word of mouth are both serious marketing hooks for any techie product, followed probably by reviews. mdk gets pretty good reviews, but one out of three doesn't cut it. It was, until very recently, difficult for me to recommend linux to Windows users, frankly. It was alien enough that I would have been married to them until they got comfortable, if I couldn't give them the patience to join this list and sit back and read. That's more than I wanted to sayMake it $.10 worth. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:36:57 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As described on the MDK page, I don't have a problem with this. Anything that keeps MDK going and doesn't make it too annoying is OK by me. I can always remove the bookmarks folder and change the screensaver. If that became too hard then I would seriously consider moving to Debian or something, but nothing indicates that it will be hard. I should hope that they keep the ads targeted. I would actually like to be aware of Linux-capable comercial apps, they don't get much air-time on other media. I would not like to get Microsoft ads, or that SCO one somebody posted to the comments, or indeed about credit cards etc. MDK say they will decide on a FCFS basis, I hope it'll be better selected than that. Otherwise MS will definately buy a slot, for laughs if for no other reason, these prices are petty cash for them. -- Richard Urwin From my desk, install adverts would be interesting if linux-centric. Small price for a good product. First time a pop-up appears while I'm typing a letter...I'm gone. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:01:03 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** Guy Van Sanden Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:40:04 +0200 : OK, it doesn't sound that bad in the beginning, but this is a dangerous trend. Like displaying ads while installing, OK, but will this mean that usefull messages get less screenspace (ETA, actions, ...) No. As much as I heard it will only go as far as it goes right now with those nice images during installation. It will just be that instead of the Mandrake images we will see ads of related products. And you can always avoid annoying ads by doing a text install. I'm also very cautious of big business getting a hold on Linux, this means it will get ruined and changed by marketing, like most good things. Yes, that's always a peril for Good Things(TM). But I don't think that Mandrake would carry it as far as Red Hat or SuSE. If they wanted to sell their souls to BIG B. they could have done that before they filed for #11. Just my thoughts, but if this goes any further, I'm going Gentoo/Debian or FreeBSD. Or do a text install :) wobo Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks to companies who want to reach mdk users. Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts. What a nice day. Lee -- ... and anyway, html can't carry a virus. (Aug 2001, Usenet) - -- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] this one is harmless?
That's an improvement over the last time I changed addresses. Sympa wouldn't accept anything I did from anywhere. Lee On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:28:07 -0400 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely this is some sick joke. I have to confirm every message I send to the list. Here, I just did a test message and received this back: - - From: SYMPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: confirm 84a2165ddf26c947ca93500929d7a0ab Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:10:22 +0200 (CEST) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To distribute the attached message in list expert : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7ca93500929d7a0ab Or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following subject : CONFIRM 84a2165ddf26c947ca93500929d7a0ab From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:49:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) test - -- Are you telling me I'm the only one who has to do this?! Miark On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:39:59 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 8:32 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 11:48, Miark wrote: I'm fuzzy on the list mechanism. Do you have to be a subscriber to the list to send something to it? Or does subscribing only allow you to receive messages? And since we have to confirm all messages that come to the list, how is it that any automated message could make it through to us? Miark ahhh, I do not have to confirm any messages Surely we only confirm when we sign up? I seem to recall that someone said earlier that you can send a message to the list without being subscribed. You just won't receive the list messages. If it was a bounce, perhaps that's what's happening. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Mouse problems.
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:39:07 -0700 lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 05:17 am, Alex Fisher wrote: Patricia Fraser wrote: Hi Alex, In a few words, my mouse has ceased to function. Here's what happened: Don't know which version of mdk you're using, or whether you're using X, or whether you're using gdm. Mandrake 9.1, with the default kernel (haven't got round to rebuilding yet). I have gdm set not to start on boot using 8.2, as I've found it conflicts with the mouse driver used by X. YMMV... Found that one out when I was still using 8.2, and haven't used gpm since(I still can't see the point of a mouse in a console). When I've had the occasional mouse failure under X, I find that popping out to a root console (Alt-F1) and running mousedrake solves the problem. Once the mouse is working, it's worth looking at the pointer section in /etc/X11/XF86Config (or XF86Confi-4, whichever version of X I'm using). Once XF86Config is sorted, restarting X to test might be a good idea. I have yet to look at XF86Config-4, that's next on the agenda. Running mousedrake didn't help at all, either in the console or from mcc. I'll have a further look at the config, see what I can figure there... Silly question perhaps, but have you tried different mice during the install? I know if you select the wrong one, it will not work. ?? Hope this helps! I beat the heck out of mdk 9.1 a couple of weeks ago about my mouse because I was using the same one through my kvm on a win2k box without a problem. Later it failed on the win2k box, I trashed it, and all is well with both machines. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse locks in KDE Gnome
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:01:23 -0700 lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 September 2003 01:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:47, Niclas Jacobsson wrote: Hi all! I am co-using mouse and monitor with an MS XP Home Client through one of those mechanical switchboxes. XPH manages to loose mouse and get it back working after switching, but Mandrake is loosing contact with the mouse until I log out from session then it comes alive again. Anybody encountered this before? Thanks! Niclas Yes a number of people have. Mine did this as well, the quick workaround is to do ctrl-alt-f1 and then switch when leaving Linux. Then ctrl-alt-f7 when you come back to it. Problem is in the way the mechanical ones work (which is why XP has trouble as well) restarting console mouse (service gpm ) if installed will also get your mouse back. James For what it is worth... I had an old Belkin KVM switch. Everytime I switched back to Linux, my mouse died. I ended up kill Xwindows and going back. I got tired of it. Quite by accident I have found that the linksys 4 port little KVM works like a dream. NO more problems at all. OTOH my Belkin OmniViewSE has worked flawlessly for over 2 yrs. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Software to record DVD-R/RW?
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:42 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2003 10:01 pm, engage wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:03 pm, stefmit wrote: You haven't seen my post from Sunday, with all relevant links, have you? http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ -- link to source inside this article, worth reading, anyway, which is why I won't give the direct link ;) Stef Man, I get tired of all this reading to try to get things to work in Linux. Can't anyone simplify the process Hmmm, you want to get hardware from disparate manufacturers to work doing complex things easily without doing a lot of reading and at least some experimenting? sarcasm mode on I think that I can simplify the process. Simply buy all of your hardware and software from a single monolithic manufacturer, allow them access to everything that you are doing and finally sell your soul to them for ease of use and not having to think or learn for yourself. In short, buy Windows. end sarcasm mode -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer It's funny. Way back before all radios were made in Japan, we home-building hams use to call ready made radio operators Appliance Operators. Same thing applies here. If you want to know why and how and you want control, you have to crack the books. Otherwise go to Kmart and get a Gates special, $199.95 (first installment) and 500.00 everytime you turn around thereafter. My .02 Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ReiserFS , JFS or XFS
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:26:18 -0400 Lawson, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone used these? What are you comments about these. ( Good, Bad) James S. Lawson Put my vote in for xfs. Been using it exclusively except for windows shares for 2 years. If I can't break it, it can't be broken. Lee (@ @) oOO--(_)--OOo- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Off-Topic - HTML Coding
How about..
content here
DIV style=page-break-after:always/DIV
content here
Lee
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:26:17 -0500
H. Carter Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't mind using a CSS ...
/* Page Break */
.pagebreak
{
page-break-after:always;
}
email me off list if you need more ...
Carter
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Subject: [expert] Off-Topic - HTML Coding
Hi Folks,
sorry for this little off-topic - but meybe somehere has done this already.
Does any possibility exist - as in an office application - to force a
page-break for printing in HTML ?
Thx for any Hints Cheers
Joerg
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Re: [expert] 9.0 9.1 upgrade
On 31 Jul 2003 08:43:28 -0400 Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone performed an upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1? Any problems or things I need to watch for if I decide to go the upgrade route instead of a fresh install? Thanks. Not one problem from here. I was purely amazed. Lee -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* NOTE: In order to control energy costs the light at the end of the tunnel has been shut off until further notice... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
