Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 09:43 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric Google 'acpi=ht', that'll explain it better than I can. I searched it when Mandrake started usin it instead of =off. Basically it still disables acpi, but allows for cpu enumeration. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:50, Eric Huff wrote: I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. Do you have a printer hooked up to the paralell port? If so check and see if it works. On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Hmmm... I just removed the acpi=ht line from lilo.conf and now all is well. I'm not sure if that disables acpi - I would think so. Anyway, the machine shuts off now. I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 40. The backup procedure works fine, but the restore is tricky! --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Michael Holt wrote: I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Well, yes - but in mdk 9.1 - and it didn't change anything for me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:45, Eric Huff wrote: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. Now this is getting freaky. This thread showed up several months ago on newbie (i think) and i swear i wrote exactly what you did above eric Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run on the same wavelength. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 09:29, Artemio wrote: Michael Holt wrote: I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Well, yes - but in mdk 9.1 - and it didn't change anything for me. How about on 9.2? Like I said, I've been living with this for quite a while now; if it hadn't been for noting that it worked briefly during an upgrade, I probably would have just continued to use it as-is. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #128: Power Company having EMP problems with their reactor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:12, James Sparenberg wrote: Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run on the same wavelength. *grin* James Alright, let's not get carried away now ;) __ -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 18. where did you say those backup tapes were kept? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:43, Eric Huff wrote: On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric Hmm... I don't pretend to know about kernel stuff, but it seems odd that that would affect your parallel ports. All I can say is, try 9.2 - I don't have any p port stuff, but without acpi in lilo -- off or on -- just removed altogether, my machine shuts down now. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #339: manager in the cable duct Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric Hmm... I don't pretend to know about kernel stuff, but it seems odd that that would affect your parallel ports. I imagine it's some sort of interrupt problem, and the crappy bios in this thing doesn't let me configure much. All I can say is, try 9.2 - I don't have any p port stuff, but without acpi in lilo-- off or on -- just removed altogether, my machine shuts down I will certainly do that! eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pc doesn't shutdown
I haven't had my pc shutdown all the way for quite some time. I was using mdk9 then 9.1 and now 9.2 and I've just gotten used to it. I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. That was on an upgrade type install from 9.1 to 9.2. For other reasons, I did a reinstall of 9.2, wiping the old partitions to start out fresh. Now I'm back to having to hit the power button to turn the machine off. I know this is vague, but any ideas where to look? Now it's going to bug me. The machine is an Asus a7m266-d dual athlon board. I haven't done any of the bios updates because they don't offer any improvements that I could tell. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? Thanks though, it works now! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
two different things. On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:48, Michael Holt wrote: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? Thanks though, it works now! -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different Two *very* different things! Thanks to Google: ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) www.acpi.info/ The 82093AA I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (IOAPIC) provides multi-processor interrupt management www.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/290566.htm Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Tim Sawchuck mused: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different Two *very* different things! Thanks to Google: ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) www.acpi.info/ The 82093AA I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (IOAPIC) provides multi-processor interrupt management www.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/290566.htm Tim hehe, I thought that was just a type-o! :) thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. So - did it work? By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ...dictd at localhost port 2628 :-P Good luck! Artemio. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:13, Artemio wrote: Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. So - did it work? Yeah, and I removed the noapic line because evidently, I don't need it! :) The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ...dictd at localhost port 2628 :-P Yes and thank you for that too! I'm getting rug-burn on my nose now :) I'm off to see if I can find some other stupid question to ask now! Thanks again :) -- Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
So - did it work? Yeah, and I removed the noapic line because evidently, I don't need it! Glad I could help. ...dictd at localhost port 2628 :-P Yes and thank you for that too! I'm getting rug-burn on my nose now :) LOL :-) I'm off to see if I can find some other stupid question to ask now! :-) Thanks again :) Always welcome! Good luck! Artemio. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:48, Michael Holt wrote: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? two (three) different things. ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Thanks though, it works now! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Yeah, thanks. I wasn't screwed up enough with just two definitions :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:48, Michael Holt wrote: Artemio mused: I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. If in /etc/lilo.conf for main linux image you have acpi=off in append string - try to change it to acpi=on and say lilo to re-install the loader. Or, if you have acpi=on try to set it to off. Hey, awesome! I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? two (three) different things. ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Thanks though, it works now! __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:49, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* James Yeah, thanks. I wasn't screwed up enough with just two definitions :) Glad I could add to the confusion. *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:50, James Sparenberg wrote: APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. James APIC AIPC ACIP AICP APCI ACPI I CNA'T TKAE IT AYNMROE!!! :P -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:58, Michael Holt wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:50, James Sparenberg wrote: APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. James APIC AIPC ACIP AICP APCI ACPI I CNA'T TKAE IT AYNMROE!!! Does this mean I should avoid APM ATM ACM ASPI and ADM ? James (Automatic Power Management, Asynchronous Transfer Mode, Association for Computer Machinery, Advanced SCSI Programming Interface and the last one is an exploit tool of unknown origin. *grin*) James :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had acpi=ht; I removed that line altogether and added noapic for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? APIC: Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ACPI: Advance Configuration Power Interface The great thing is, you can type just about any mispelling of them into google, and get hits, because someone else mispelled it, too! (i made a similar post here, myself, awhile back... :) -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. Now this is getting freaky. This thread showed up several months ago on newbie (i think) and i swear i wrote exactly what you did above eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. Do you have a printer hooked up to the paralell port? If so check and see if it works. On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. Do you have a printer hooked up to the paralell port? If so check and see if it works. On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
