Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but whatisinitrd?

2003-03-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 17:43, Todd Lyons wrote:
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> Greg Meyer wrote on Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 03:41:22PM -0500 :
> > 
> > And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?
> 
> Which do you think is easier to support:
> 
> A) Create an initrd for every install that you do.
> 
> B) Create an initrd except for hardware A, hardware B, hardware C rev 1,
> but do create one for hardware C rev2, not for hardware E, etc.
> 
> If you have to start dealing with exceptions at the system level, you
> severely complicate your system.

Kinda like configurable font color foreground color and background
color... I chose red  *grin*  Sometimes you really can have too many
options.

James

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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what isinitrd?

2003-03-25 Thread Todd Lyons
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Greg Meyer wrote on Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 03:41:22PM -0500 :
> 
> And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?

Which do you think is easier to support:

A) Create an initrd for every install that you do.

B) Create an initrd except for hardware A, hardware B, hardware C rev 1,
but do create one for hardware C rev2, not for hardware E, etc.

If you have to start dealing with exceptions at the system level, you
severely complicate your system.

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but whatisinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 12:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 22 March 2003 02:52 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
> > need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
> > modules?
> 
> And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?


I know of one reason... so that the reiserfs xfs or ext3 modules can be
loaded before the / partition is loaded. The file systems are modules
not built in with the stock kernel.  I've tried to build in reiserfs
rather than as a module but the results weren't optimal.

James


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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what isinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Meyer wrote:
 
> On Saturday 22 March 2003 02:52 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
> > need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
> > modules?
 
> And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?

Not all systems are created equal. initrd is a rough parallel to
CONFIG.SYS and drivers in WinDOS. initrd is created custom for your
system when you install. If every possible driver was included in the
kernel, the kernel would become too bloated for good performance or
installation on a boot floppy.
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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but whatisinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 15:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 22 March 2003 02:52 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
> > need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
> > modules?
> 
> And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?

I can't speak for Mandrake, but the use of an initrd is often desired
Instead of building every single filesystem and device driver that could
possibly be required into the kernel, the initrd allows the kernel to be
built modularly but still support esoteric hardware. 


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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what isinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 22 March 2003 02:52 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
> need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
> modules?

And I'll add:  Why does Mandrake use one anyway even if it is not required?
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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but whatisinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Kwan Lowe
> Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
> need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
> modules?

If you're using SCSI or more esoteric boot devices or don't have your
your filesystem type (ext3, reiser) built into the kernel then you need
to make an initrd. To do so:

  su -
  mkinitrd initrd-`uname -r`.img `uname -r`

This will create an initrd for the current kernel. Look at the manpages
for other options.


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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what isinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Adrian Golumbovici

- Original Message -
From: "Kwan Lowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what
isinitrd?


> On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 14:04, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > I saw that some compiled kernels include such a file in the /boot
directory
> > and also include it in lilo, but others don't put any initrd in the
/boot
> > directory and also I find no initrd section for them in the lilo.
Despite
> > the lack of initrd, those kernels still boot and work ok. Can someone
> > explain me what is exactly the initrd and why some kernels work without
it?
> >
>
> initrd is a way of getting around the problem of needing a particular
> module before the root filesystem is loaded. In other words, say that
> you need a particular SCSI driver to access your hard disk. The driver,
> or module, is located somewhere in /lib/modules/ but of course, you
> can't access the drive until you load the module. initrd is a way of
> preloading these necessary modules before the rest of the filesystem
> comes online. That's all. I generally prefer to just build in these
> modules statically into the kernel rather than using initrd.

Thx for the answer mate. Have one more question tho... How do I know if I
need a module upon start and how do I create an initrd for the needed
modules?

Best regards,
Adrian


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Re: [expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what isinitrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 14:04, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> I saw that some compiled kernels include such a file in the /boot directory
> and also include it in lilo, but others don't put any initrd in the /boot
> directory and also I find no initrd section for them in the lilo. Despite
> the lack of initrd, those kernels still boot and work ok. Can someone
> explain me what is exactly the initrd and why some kernels work without it?
> 

initrd is a way of getting around the problem of needing a particular
module before the root filesystem is loaded. In other words, say that
you need a particular SCSI driver to access your hard disk. The driver,
or module, is located somewhere in /lib/modules/ but of course, you
can't access the drive until you load the module. initrd is a way of
preloading these necessary modules before the rest of the filesystem
comes online. That's all. I generally prefer to just build in these
modules statically into the kernel rather than using initrd.


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[expert] sorry for being a little newbie again, but what is initrd?

2003-03-22 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
I saw that some compiled kernels include such a file in the /boot directory
and also include it in lilo, but others don't put any initrd in the /boot
directory and also I find no initrd section for them in the lilo. Despite
the lack of initrd, those kernels still boot and work ok. Can someone
explain me what is exactly the initrd and why some kernels work without it?

Best regards,
Adrian


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Re: [expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C
Bless you, my son.
You are forgiven. ;-)
I even have a certificate from the ULC that says I can forgive 
others sins. ;-)

Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
Please forgive me...



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Re: [expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 07 March 2003 04:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
> here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
> Please forgive me...
>
> James

We forgive you...

 We forgive you...

 Gotta keep a sense of humor about these things, ya know! 

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[expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
Please forgive me...

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[expert] sorry :-(

2002-09-04 Thread Michael Holt

Sorry all about the bounced email you must have received.  The phone 
company came yesterday and installed a second line for our neighbor and in 
the process they managed to make a clean cut in our line!  Consequently, 
by the time we got home and realized what happened and were able to call 
them, they couldn't get out and fix it until today so my email server has 
been down for about 36 hours.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, 
then just ignore this and have a great day!

/mike

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Re: [expert] Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

2002-05-28 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 01:52, J. Craig Woods wrote:
> A little early morning humor (hey, the list had no traffic).
> 
> 
> A little old lady called 911. When the operator answered she 
> yelled, "Help! Send the police to my house right away! There's 
> a damned republican on my front porch and he's playing with 
> himself." 
> 
> "What?" the operator exclaimed! 
> 
> "I said there is a damned republican on my front porch playing 
> with himself! Please send the police!" the little old lady 
> repeated. 
> 
> "Ma'am, how do you know he's a republican?" 
> 
> "Because, you damned fool, if he were a democrat, he'd be 
> screwing somebody." 
> 
> cheers,
> drjung

That's just what I needed to start the day off, Doc.  Thanks!!  lol..

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[expert] Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

2002-05-27 Thread J. Craig Woods

A little early morning humor (hey, the list had no traffic).


A little old lady called 911. When the operator answered she 
yelled, "Help! Send the police to my house right away! There's 
a damned republican on my front porch and he's playing with 
himself." 

"What?" the operator exclaimed! 

"I said there is a damned republican on my front porch playing 
with himself! Please send the police!" the little old lady 
repeated. 

"Ma'am, how do you know he's a republican?" 

"Because, you damned fool, if he were a democrat, he'd be 
screwing somebody." 

cheers,
drjung

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[expert] Sorry for the double posts.

2001-07-18 Thread Randy Kramer

Attn: civileme

Sorry!

My last two posts to the list may have been sent twice (because my
Internet connection died and I stopped them and then sent them when the
connection was restored).  

The second one to civileme corrects one "typo" and is more correct -- I
make it clear that I will put the post on my twiki as long as he has no
objection.

Randy Kramer




Re: [expert] sorry if OT, hardware experts anyone??

2001-03-07 Thread John Wolford

Try replacing your network card and see if it works (after you've configured it 
properly).
Could it be a bad network cable, or maybe electromagnetic ineterference somewhere 
along the line?

Just some brainstorming,
j

--- Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An addendum: 
> This is the kind of crap I am getting with when I
> try to ping out somewhere.
> 
> 
> [root@kittypuss wavs]# ping rmci.net
> PING rmci.net (205.162.184.20): 56 octets data
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=1496.0 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xe9 but was 0xe8e8 8e a5 3a dd 69 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=1462.5 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xea but was 0xe9e9 8e a5 3a 96 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=1402.8 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xeb but was 0xeaea 8e a5 3a 98 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=1465.5 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xec but was 0xebeb 8e a5 3a 8f 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=1445.9 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xed but was 0xecec 8e a5 3a 96 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=5 ttl=51 time=1414.3 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xee but was 0xeded 8e a5 3a df 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=6 ttl=51 time=1417.6 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xef but was 0x 8e a5 3a 97 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=1440.6 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf0 but was 0xefef 8e a5 3a 95 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=8 ttl=51 time=1394.6 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf1 but was 0xf0f0 8e a5 3a f3 64 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
> 64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=9 ttl=51 time=1393.5 ms
> wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf2 but was 0xf1f1 8e a5 3a fa 6b 5 0
> 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
> 22 23 24 25 26 27
> 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
>  
> --- rmci.net ping statistics ---
> 11 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 9% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 1393.5/1433.3/1496.0 ms 
> 
> Same damn trash over and over again its really p***ing me off
> On Tuesday 06 March 2001 11:49 am,  Vic wrote:
> > Hello list.
> >
> > I seem to be having great difficulty with my serial ports
> > being engaged.
> >
> > I have a motherboard from JDR Microdevices with
> > the VIA chipset on it, (Host bridge: VIA technologies VT 82C598  Apollo
> > MVP3 (rev 4)
> >
> > PCI Bridge same as Host Bridge.
> >
> > ISA Bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo ISA (rev 71)
> >
> > Ethernet controller 3Com Vendor id=10b7 Device id=9004
> >
> > cpu is an AMDK6-400
> >
> > If you need more info, I will gladly provide it.
> >
> > Use of serial ports seems to interfere with speed of adsl connection,
> > this is a great and frustrating mystery to me.
> >
> > Any and all help appreciated.
> 


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Re: [expert] sorry if OT, hardware experts anyone??

2001-03-07 Thread Vic

An addendum: 
This is the kind of crap I am getting with when I
try to ping out somewhere.


[root@kittypuss wavs]# ping rmci.net
PING rmci.net (205.162.184.20): 56 octets data
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=1496.0 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xe9 but was 0xe8e8 8e a5 3a dd 69 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=1462.5 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xea but was 0xe9e9 8e a5 3a 96 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=1402.8 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xeb but was 0xeaea 8e a5 3a 98 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=1465.5 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xec but was 0xebeb 8e a5 3a 8f 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=1445.9 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xed but was 0xecec 8e a5 3a 96 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=5 ttl=51 time=1414.3 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xee but was 0xeded 8e a5 3a df 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=6 ttl=51 time=1417.6 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xef but was 0x 8e a5 3a 97 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=1440.6 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf0 but was 0xefef 8e a5 3a 95 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=8 ttl=51 time=1394.6 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf1 but was 0xf0f0 8e a5 3a f3 64 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
64 octets from 205.162.184.20: icmp_seq=9 ttl=51 time=1393.5 ms
wrong data byte #0 should be 0xf2 but was 0xf1f1 8e a5 3a fa 6b 5 0
8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 
22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
 
--- rmci.net ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 9% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 1393.5/1433.3/1496.0 ms 

Same damn trash over and over again its really p***ing me off
On Tuesday 06 March 2001 11:49 am,  Vic wrote:
> Hello list.
>
> I seem to be having great difficulty with my serial ports
> being engaged.
>
> I have a motherboard from JDR Microdevices with
> the VIA chipset on it, (Host bridge: VIA technologies VT 82C598  Apollo
> MVP3 (rev 4)
>
> PCI Bridge same as Host Bridge.
>
> ISA Bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo ISA (rev 71)
>
> Ethernet controller 3Com Vendor id=10b7 Device id=9004
>
> cpu is an AMDK6-400
>
> If you need more info, I will gladly provide it.
>
> Use of serial ports seems to interfere with speed of adsl connection,
> this is a great and frustrating mystery to me.
>
> Any and all help appreciated.




[expert] sorry if OT, hardware experts anyone??

2001-03-06 Thread Vic

Hello list.

I seem to be having great difficulty with my serial ports
being engaged.

I have a motherboard from JDR Microdevices with
the VIA chipset on it, (Host bridge: VIA technologies VT 82C598  Apollo MVP3 
(rev 4)

PCI Bridge same as Host Bridge.

ISA Bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo ISA (rev 71)

Ethernet controller 3Com Vendor id=10b7 Device id=9004

cpu is an AMDK6-400 

If you need more info, I will gladly provide it.

Use of serial ports seems to interfere with speed of adsl connection,
this is a great and frustrating mystery to me.

Any and all help appreciated.




Re: [expert] sorry to harp - but i don't want kdm on command line

2001-01-06 Thread stephen

On Fri, 05 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 January 2001 12:22 pm, stephen wrote:
>I would ... do ;)
> 
>   su to root in a term and start DrakConf.  Then User&Group Manager | 
> hi-lite the user | Settings | Preferences, and UNcheck 'Active 
> autologin support'.  
> 

Its not checked. 
/etc/sysconfig/autologin  has AUTOLOGIN=no as first line

I tried editing 'guest' to give a home dir of ".",  that gives me a
bash-2.04$ prompt and a dir of /

however cd /home/guest/rig and startx,  then after the malformed
url messge, clicking on xterm gives me a pwd of /home/guest/rig :-)

srp




Re: [expert] sorry to harp - but i don't want kdm on command line

2001-01-05 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 02 January 2001 12:22 pm, stephen wrote:
> kde behaviour via startx has changed between m7.1 & m7.2
> now i seem to get kdm login behaviour, it goes to the users home
> account> under m7.1 it stayed put, if in dir fred, cwd in an xterm 
was fred>
> would someone please tell me whats changed, and perhaps how
> to revert>> stephen parkinson
> who if he wanted to use kdm login - would

   I would ... do ;)

  su to root in a term and start DrakConf.  Then User&Group Manager | 
hi-lite the user | Settings | Preferences, and UNcheck 'Active 
autologin support'.  

   Damn, I really like booting right to my desktop :>>  I had 
to CHECK the above to re-enable this feature after some upgrade or 
another turned it off  YMMV ;)
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[expert] sorry to harp - but i don't want kdm on command line

2001-01-05 Thread stephen

  
kde behaviour via startx has changed between m7.1 & m7.2

now i seem to get kdm login behaviour, it goes to the users home
account 

under m7.1 it stayed put, if in dir fred, cwd in an xterm was fred

would someone please tell me whats changed, and perhaps how
to revert

stephen parkinson

who if he wanted to use kdm login - would




Re: [expert] Sorry to beat a "dead horse" (SBLive!), but...

2000-04-21 Thread Mage Grimau

I got the same thing when I replaced my Ensoniq with PCI512 (SBLive without
the Live! update feature). Had to get the driver from the CD. Unlike Windows,
it looks like only drivers you actually use are copied onto your drive by
install.


--- Kevin Talley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a definitive "howto" or anything about getting a SBLive to work
> under 7.0.2?  I apologize for asking this -- I'm sure it's been answered a
> hundred times (but I can't find anything specific in my list archives).
> 
> Mine did NOT auto-detect -- however, when I run sndconfig it appears to
> find the SBLive but then tells me that driver emu10k1 is not in the module
> path.  That's as far as I've gotten.  I'm hoping for a SIMPLE solution
> (aren't we all??? ).
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Kevin Talley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Sorry to beat a "dead horse" (SBLive!), but...

2000-04-21 Thread Burkhard Zombronner


- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Talley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 2:55 PM
Subject: [expert] Sorry to beat a "dead horse" (SBLive!), but...


> Is there a definitive "howto" or anything about getting a SBLive to work
under 7.0.2?  I apologize for asking this -- I'm sure it's been answered a
hundred times (but I can't find anything specific in my list archives).
>
> Mine did NOT auto-detect -- however, when I run sndconfig it appears to
find the SBLive but then tells me that driver emu10k1 is not in the module
path.  That's as far as I've gotten.  I'm hoping for a SIMPLE solution
(aren't we all??? ).
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kevin Talley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

kevin,

have alook at the developers site from creative: www.creaf.com and have a
look for the sblive drivers and instruction!

regards

Burkhard Zombronner




Re: [expert] Sorry to beat a "dead horse" (SBLive!), but...

2000-04-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 07:55 -0500, Kevin Talley wrote:
> Is there a definitive "howto" or anything about getting a SBLive to work 
> under 7.0.2?  I apologize for asking this -- I'm sure it's been answered 
> a hundred times (but I can't find anything specific in my list archives).

So, if you're sure it's been asked before, why don't you search
in the right places? Where do you find the right places? At
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ffreesup.php3 or just klick on
the "Support" link in the menue on the Mandrake website. What a
surprise!
 
Why don't you just stop over at www.mandrakeuser.org, get a can
full of knowledge and then race off to listen to your SBLive?

You may even find some answers to your question by browsing
deja.com. 

wobo
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[expert] Sorry to beat a "dead horse" (SBLive!), but...

2000-04-21 Thread Kevin Talley

Is there a definitive "howto" or anything about getting a SBLive to work under 7.0.2?  
I apologize for asking this -- I'm sure it's been answered a hundred times (but I 
can't find anything specific in my list archives).

Mine did NOT auto-detect -- however, when I run sndconfig it appears to find the 
SBLive but then tells me that driver emu10k1 is not in the module path.  That's as far 
as I've gotten.  I'm hoping for a SIMPLE solution (aren't we all??? ).

Thanks in advance

Kevin Talley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])





[expert] SORRY!!

1999-06-11 Thread Tom Berger

Ahem...

Did I mention that I have some problems with NS-Mail 4.6 *grin*?

Won't happen again. Will try it the Unix way with Sendmail and mutt.

Nevermind

tom

P.S.: NS keeps saying it can't store mails in the Sent folder and can't
create that folder either (well, it's still there...). This release is
*much* worse than 4.08...



Re: [expert] sorry/XFree3.3.3

1998-12-14 Thread Fabio Coatti

On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 02:15:34PM +0100, Gael Duval wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> sorry for my previous message in French ;)
> 
> Did anyone here try XFree3.3.3 with Mandrake? Did Xconfigurator worked
> with it?
> 
I've just downloaded rpms for Xfree 3.3.3 from developer.redhat.com,
but I've find no Xconfigurator package... only the Xfree XF86Config
package.


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[expert] sorry/XFree3.3.3

1998-12-14 Thread Gael Duval

Hello,

sorry for my previous message in French ;)

Did anyone here try XFree3.3.3 with Mandrake? Did Xconfigurator worked
with it?

Greets,

Gael.
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