Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to awaken kundalini?
French twins who are strong in the knowledge does it for me. I say go for 20-year old triplets. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrrfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone please tell me as many methods as possible of kundalini awakening without using mantras, prayer, or physical activity? Thanks in advance. French twins who are strong in the knowledge does it for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to awaken kundalini?
Yeah dude, like you could keep up. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: French twins who are strong in the knowledge does it for me. I say go for 20-year old triplets. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrrfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone please tell me as many methods as possible of kundalini awakening without using mantras, prayer, or physical activity? Thanks in advance. French twins who are strong in the knowledge does it for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hurricane Relief Effort/It Takes A Village
Whether or not Condi Rice, has the hots for George, who cares? She obviously will be waiting in the wings; until the end of never. The thing is; I believe Hillary has vision and experiece, intellingence and guts; Condi Rice, is just another one of Bush's yes-men and yes-women. It sure will take everyone's help; Help in this crisis. And it is good for everyone; To 'pitch in' where you can... And remember to vote; Hillary In 2008. It is! If the choice in 2008 Is between Hillary And Condie It appears that Gimbel Will choose The woman who rode to fame On the coattails of a man And reject The woman Who is self-made and rode to fame On her own You mean the long-time friend and wife of GW Bush? I mean the person who is self-made and didn't depend upon a man for her position in life today... Condi Rice's success in politics is hardly independent of GW Bush. What are you saying, Spare Egg, that she fucked him? That she's known him since both were very young. Also, she feels close enough to him that she misspokein public a while back and referred to him as my husband, I mean the President. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The cavalry's coming...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excerpt from an interview on Meet the Press with the president of Jefferson Parish in New Orleans this morning: snip Let me give you just three quick examples. We had Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't need them. This was a week ago. FEMA-- we had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked in my parish. The Coast Guard said, Come get the fuel right away. When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. FEMA says don't give you the fuel. A friend just emailed me: Mayor of Hattiesburg, Mississippi, an African-American man, just interviewed by phone on CNN. After chatting about damage and casualties in his city for a while, the anchor asked him if he'd seen any FEMA presence? The mayor said, What's FEMA? I don't know what that is. There was a brief silence and the anchor said softly, Oh, my. This mayor says the only contact they've had with FEMA is with an agency representative who, for unexplained reasons, has prevented a big shipment of ice and water from coming into the city. This is getting to be a regular refrain, FEMA people turning away relief supplies with one excuse or another. You can just barely understand it in the chaos of New Orelans, but Hattiesberg isn't flooded and hasn't had any problem with looters and guns, etc. So what's the excuse there? My friend is right. Besides what Broussard and the Hattiesburg mayor relate, I've seen literally *dozens* of accounts now of FEMA turning back supplies and volunteers, not just from New Orleans, but from areas where there was no conceivable reason not to accept them. There's something very, very strange going on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hurricane Relief Effort/It Takes A Village
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether or not Condi Rice, has the hots for George, who cares? She obviously will be waiting in the wings; until the end of never. The thing is; I believe Hillary has vision and experiece, intellingence and guts; Condi Rice, is just another one of Bush's yes-men and yes-women. On August 31, Wednesday, after everyone knew the extent of the Katrina disaster, Condi Rice, on vacation in New York City, enjoyed a Broadway musical. The following day, Thursday, she spent several thousand dollars on shoes at Ferragamo's on Fifth Avenue. When another shopper came up to her and asked what she was doing buying shoes when thousands were dying and homeless, Condi had security physically remove the woman. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. Plus which: ...The City was acutely aware of the problem of evacing the poor and others who couldn't get out, but didn't have the resources to do it. Even with the claims on Drudge, the reality is the City didn't have 200 bus drivers to volunteer to drive them. The young man who comandeered a school bus was great, but imagine just grabbing two hundred drivers and sending them in heavy traffic to evacuate--the number of problems involving accidents would only make a difficult evacuation harder. City resources were focused on securing the city and moving people within the city to shelters including the Superdome. An action that saved innumerable lives. During Ivan, only 1200 people showed up at the Superdome. Since Ivan, the City improved its plan and had city buses run routes for people without cars to places where other special bus routes ran people to shelters. This time, 20-30,000 people got there. If there was a mistake, it was not designating another shelter of last resort--such as the Convention Center (this would have helped additionally because there would have been some real security planned). The State and the City were acutely aware that a mandatory evacuation would still leave at least 100,000 behind. There simply is no infrastructure to solve that problem anywhere in the nation. Knowing that, the City was working to make the Superdome retrofitted in its rehab to provide exactly the kind of improvements that would have alleviated the suffering--power sources and sewage modifications. http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012870.html Evacuation Preparedness Times-Picayune (New Orleans) July 24, 2005 Sunday In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation. In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation. You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you, Wilkins said in an interview. If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you. But we don't have the transportation Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action. The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends, Truehill said. In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind. Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height in September, Katz said http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012862.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:
[FairfieldLife] Michelle Malkin to Bush: Fire Brown (ATT: Shemp)
Shemp, sorry to have to tell you this, but the worm has turned. Your fave Michelle is in the process of seeing the light: MEMO TO BUSH: FIRE MICHAEL BROWN By Michelle Malkin · September 04, 2005 08:17 AM During his visit to Mobile, Ala., on Friday, President Bush singled out Michael D. Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, for praise: Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. Really? Brownie's job is to direct the federal response to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina. Let's review his public statements during the past week: - He admitted that he didn't act more aggressively because as late as last Sunday he expected Katrina to be a standard hurricane even though the National Weather Service in New Orleans was already predicting human suffering incredible by modern standards. - He proved himself utterly clueless about the disaster unfolding in New Orleans. He claimed that the federal relief effort was going relatively well and that the security situation in New Orleans was pretty darn good. - He blamed the flood victims in New Orleans for failing to evacuate on time, even though local authorities failed to make municipal vehicles available to residents who could not drive or did not own their own cars. [Not true. Buses were being used for evacuating carless residents until it became unsafe to do so with the hurricane's approach.--JS] It took four days to begin a large-scale evacuation of people stranded in the Superdome stadium and to bring in significant amounts of food and water to an American city easily accessible by motorway, the Observer notes. Relief agencies took half that time to reach Indonesia after the Boxing Day tsunami. Although the delay was not entirely the fault of the Bush Administration, Brown's complacency clearly didn't help. And his bumbling statements after the hurricane struck have not inspired confidence. This is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt. The FEMA director's role in the ongoing recovery effort is too important to be entrusted to a clueless political hack with such poor judgment. Rather than praise Michael Brown, Bush should fire him. *** Update, 9:15am: Brendan Loy has a superb post about Brown's failure to anticipate the enormity of Katrina (hat tip: Glenn Reynolds): No one -- NO ONE -- who knows anything about New Orleans's geography and topography and levee system would ever have thought for a single moment on Saturday and Sunday that Katrina, if it followed the predicted path, was going to be a typical hurricane situation. Jesus Christ!! For how many years now has this article been out there?!? And this one? And many more like them? Did Michael Brown never read them? Was he not familiar with the science? Was FEMA's director unaware of what has been acknowledged for many years as the #1 most serious natural disaster threat in all of America?!? 9:45am EDT: Brown is being criticized on FOX News Sunday. He has a lot to answer for, says Bill Kistol. He clearly did not know what was going on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hurricane Relief Effort/It Takes A Village
Condi, is a complete kiss-ass type; That will do anything to look good; Like her friend George; She is all image; Complete Maya; Look up Maya in the dictionary; And you will see Condi Rice; She is a poor excuse.. Now Hillary, on the other hand; Is a self-made woman; An extremely strong woman; As her past experience has demonstrated' She worked to help impeach the decadent Nixon Administration; Of which Pat Buchanan, is still a ridiculous spokesman for; Anyway, intuitively, I really like her a lot; And I feel inspired to work for her election; As our next President. And feel she; Has a high level of consciousness; and would be very good for our country. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether or not Condi Rice, has the hots for George, who cares? She obviously will be waiting in the wings; until the end of never. The thing is; I believe Hillary has vision and experiece, intellingence and guts; Condi Rice, is just another one of Bush's yes-men and yes-women. On August 31, Wednesday, after everyone knew the extent of the Katrina disaster, Condi Rice, on vacation in New York City, enjoyed a Broadway musical. The following day, Thursday, she spent several thousand dollars on shoes at Ferragamo's on Fifth Avenue. When another shopper came up to her and asked what she was doing buying shoes when thousands were dying and homeless, Condi had security physically remove the woman. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Overwhelming attachment to emotions is not healthy.
In any emergency situation; you will find the people who survive; are able to quell their emotions; And be able to think of a way to survive. Once you become too overwhelmed by emotion; Then you are at risk; To become part of the storm's energy. In any storm of emotion; From our practice of meditation; And our experience with pure consciousness; Then it is easy to 'witness'; The emotions, and let them flow; Especially fear, which can be overwhelming; Then it becomes an exercise in maintaining, The ability to just watch the emotions; Without becoming involved; For even a second; Will help to witness, And fall back on the Higher Self/Witnessing Unbounded Self, of Pure-Consciousness/The infinite Self, beyond ego Even on the cross, Jesus, at some point; Gave up; and just witnessed; All the eons of time; Of passion and emotions; Of leaving friends and reletives; And abandoned by all... From unbounded consciousness... He rose above it finally... Overwhelming attachment to emotions is not healthy. This is putting the cart before the horse, though. To try and convince the unenlightened mind and heart of such a thing is futile, and only leads to confusion. Better to be overwhelmingly attached to emotions and any other desires while in ignorance. Live our dharma authentically. Only through this honesty can we begin to move towards enlightenment from the solid foundation of our ignorance(!). Anything else causes strain and unhappiness; it is living a lie. Then, after our goal is reached, we can see and live the obvious truth of the statement above (which is, in fact, useless both to the enlightened, and the ignorant). No because there are plenty of folks who are not even pursuing enlightenment who can rise above their emotions.They are not attached to them. One of the things that struck me from the news reports from New Orleans was the variety of ways people were experiencing their situation. I saw people who had nothing to begin talk about losing everything and others who also had nothing to begin with who just shrugged and said life goes on. I also saw people who lost a lot of property and we very upset while others who lost property just shrugged and said life goes on. That's the beauty of higher states of consciousness, you lose attachment to things that are ephemeral. In disasters such as Katrina we are less likely to suffer. We can move on more easily. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 4:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation?News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Why didn't you deploy the buses, Mayor asks Drudge
Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'... Photo: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
It is reported that President Chavez of Venezuela, has offered help; For hurricane relief, in the form of hospital ship, etc. The United States Government has reportedly refused the help.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/05 4:40:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eyewitness reports that the original levee break; Which soon flooded the City of New Orleans; May have been preventable; In that two, unattended and empty grain barges; Originally cause the levees to fail. This was first reported on Fox News. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. Well, this paints a different picture then. Army Corp of Engineers has been saying that, that levee, should not have breached. The max that should have happened from a hurricane 4 or 5 was spill over, which the pumps could have handled. I checked googlenews yesterday. Couldn't find anymention of this story. Any URLs? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/05 4:40:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eyewitness reports that the original levee break; Which soon flooded the City of New Orleans; May have been preventable; In that two, unattended and empty grain barges; Originally cause the levees to fail. This was first reported on Fox News. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. Well, this paints a different picture then. Army Corp of Engineers has been saying that, that levee, should not have breached. The max that should have happened from a hurricane 4 or 5 was spill over, which the pumps could have handled. I checked googlenews yesterday. Couldn't find anymention of this story. Any URLs? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why didn't you deploy the buses, Mayor asks Drudge
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:05:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'... Photo:http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015 But Shemp... they fore got that those buses needed drivers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/05 6:46:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And who is her government? City Government (headed by a Black Man mayor)? State Government? Federal government? I am absolutely amazed at the lack of action from the mayor. I see a man pleading for help, fine, but could he and his administration not done more to help the situation? Even getting port a potties to the dome and convention center to improve sanitation would have helped the situation while waiting on the guard to come evacuate. Er, how many porta-potties we talking about, and how would they get them, and how would they get them to where they were needed? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hurricane Relief Effort/It Takes A Village
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/05 7:29:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean the long-time friend and wife of GW Bush? Don't you really mean mammi? No. That's your rhetoric, not mine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Overwhelming attachment to emotions is not healthy. snip This is putting the cart before the horse, though. To try and convince the unenlightened mind and heart of such a thing is futile, and only leads to confusion. Ahem. Just to get this silly discussion back on track, might I remind everyone that both Bhairitu and Barry1 were discussing their own experiences, not suggesting any approach to or technique for *having* such experiences. The moodmaking thing was made up by Spairaig. Got it. Not so much made up, but an observation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I checked googlenews yesterday. Couldn't find anymention of this story. Any URLs? I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOL To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The statementis a value judgement: Overwhelming attachment to emotions is not healthy. Unless you think that not healthy is a neutral or positive state, Overwhelming attachment to emotions becomes something to be avoided. Maybe the use of the overwhelming has confused the issue. I think you would agree that become overly attached to the emotions of a situation would not be healthy. OVerly implies a negative situation already. OVerly anything, is, well, overly... However, Overly attached to emotions seems to have special meaning for many people involved in spirituality, however, and it often seems to be a Buddha-cide issue... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? Good question. Why do they call an evacuation mandatory if you aren't required to leave? Years ago we had one in my neighborhood in Florida when i lived near the beach. I though i was going to have to leave, but a cop came to my door and asked me if I was leaving. I said no and he said suit yourself and left. WIthout enough people to make 100's of thousands of arrests (in the case of New Orleans), how do you enforce a mandatory evacuation? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:28:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am absolutely amazed at the lack of action from the mayor. I see a man pleading for help, fine, but could he and his administration not done more to help the situation? Even getting port a potties to the dome and convention center to improve sanitation would have helped the situation while waiting on the guard to come evacuate.Er, how many porta-potties we talking about, and how would they get them, and how would they get them to where they were needed? Uh... I assume there are port a pottie rental places all over a city the size of NO including out lying areas and could have been requested and brought by truck on the same route they brought in the buses. How many? As many as they could find. But then, maybe they did request them but couldn't provide security for the people bringing them in. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is reported that President Chavez of Venezuela, has offered help; For hurricane relief, in the form of hospital ship, etc. The United States Government has reportedly refused the help. My son has read that 60countries have offered help, and allhave been refused -not just Cuba and Venuzuela, but the UK and Canada as well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:28:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am absolutely amazed at the lack of action from the mayor. I see a man pleading for help, fine, but could he and his administration not done more to help the situation? Even getting port a potties to the dome and convention center to improve sanitation would have helped the situation while waiting on the guard to come evacuate. Er, how many porta-potties we talking about, and how would they get them, and how would they get them to where they were needed? Uh... I assume there are port a pottie rental places all over a city the size of NO including out lying areas and could have been requested and brought by truck on the same route they brought in the buses. How many? As many as they could find. But then, maybe they did request them but couldn't provide security for the people bringing them in. Or maybe they couldn't find drivers to bring them in since only the ultra-poor/old, and emergency people were left. The convention center and superdome were meant to be one or two day facilities, not 5 days. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Heads WILL roll over New Orleans...
..but whoose heads? http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/4/171811/1974 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:34:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WIthout enough people to make 100's of thousands of arrests (in the case of New Orleans), how do you enforce a mandatory evacuation? I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who refused to leave, but they could have announced emergency evacuation plans on Radio and TV starting Friday night and started picking up those that WANTED to leave at designated places and take them to shelters north and west of the city. All hey needed to do was get them out of NO and the path of the Katrina. Governor Blanco could have issued orders to open all public buildings including schools for evacuees. They had from Friday evening till Sunday morning at 6 am to move as many as wanted to go. We saw no such effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Gimme Shelter',/Maharishi Org./'Offers Housing to Hurricane Victims...'
The Maharishi Organization in Fairfield, Iowa, is discussing plans; To build vastu housing for victims of Hurricane Katrina. In addition to living in "Life Supporting and Healing Housing" They will be offered to learn meditation(TM), and levitation techniques; As Maharishi has said; To increase the numbers participating together; In group meditation practice; To achieve "Collective Coherence" based in the "Laws of Quantum Physics". In addition, this will provide an opportunity for many throughout; The nation and the world; To become more familiar; With these ancient teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. The Rumor Mill, Inc.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 4:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor. Oh, how odd, somehow everything else in my post must have dropped off somehow. Here it is again (I can post it as many times as necessary): ...The City was acutely aware of the problem of evacing the poor and others who couldn't get out, but didn't have the resources to do it. Even with the claims on Drudge, the reality is the City didn't have 200 bus drivers to volunteer to drive them. The young man who comandeered a school bus was great, but imagine just grabbing two hundred drivers and sending them in heavy traffic to evacuate--the number of problems involving accidents would only make a difficult evacuation harder. City resources were focused on securing the city and moving people within the city to shelters including the Superdome. An action that saved innumerable lives. During Ivan, only 1200 people showed up at the Superdome. Since Ivan, the City improved its plan and had city buses run routes for people without cars to places where other special bus routes ran people to shelters. This time, 20-30,000 people got there. If there was a mistake, it was not designating another shelter of last resort--such as the Convention Center (this would have helped additionally because there would have been some real security planned). The State and the City were acutely aware that a mandatory evacuation would still leave at least 100,000 behind. There simply is no infrastructure to solve that problem anywhere in the nation. Knowing that, the City was working to make the Superdome retrofitted in its rehab to provide exactly the kind of improvements that would have alleviated the suffering--power sources and sewage modifications. http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012870.html Evacuation Preparedness Times-Picayune (New Orleans) July 24, 2005 Sunday In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation. In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation. You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you, Wilkins said in an interview. If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you. But we don't have the transportation Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action. The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends, Truehill said. In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind. Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height in September, Katz said http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012862.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why didn't you deploy the buses, Mayor asks Drudge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'... Photo: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015 Here, this got left off my previous post: ...The City was acutely aware of the problem of evacing the poor and others who couldn't get out, but didn't have the resources to do it. Even with the claims on Drudge, the reality is the City didn't have 200 bus drivers to volunteer to drive them. The young man who comandeered a school bus was great, but imagine just grabbing two hundred drivers and sending them in heavy traffic to evacuate--the number of problems involving accidents would only make a difficult evacuation harder. City resources were focused on securing the city and moving people within the city to shelters including the Superdome. An action that saved innumerable lives. During Ivan, only 1200 people showed up at the Superdome. Since Ivan, the City improved its plan and had city buses run routes for people without cars to places where other special bus routes ran people to shelters. This time, 20-30,000 people got there. If there was a mistake, it was not designating another shelter of last resort--such as the Convention Center (this would have helped additionally because there would have been some real security planned). The State and the City were acutely aware that a mandatory evacuation would still leave at least 100,000 behind. There simply is no infrastructure to solve that problem anywhere in the nation. Knowing that, the City was working to make the Superdome retrofitted in its rehab to provide exactly the kind of improvements that would have alleviated the suffering--power sources and sewage modifications. http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012870.html Evacuation Preparedness Times-Picayune (New Orleans) July 24, 2005 Sunday In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation. In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation. You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you, Wilkins said in an interview. If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you. But we don't have the transportation Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action. The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends, Truehill said. In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind. Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height in September, Katz said http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012862.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I checked googlenews yesterday. Couldn't find anymention of this story. Any URLs? I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOL There were several breaches. The big one on 17th Street could not possibly have been caused by a grain barge; grain barges are not used on Lake Pontchartrain. Grain barges may have been responsible for one of the smaller breaches elsewhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:41:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My son has read that 60countries have offered help, and allhave been refused -not just Cuba and Venuzuela, but the UK and Canada as well. I think unless they are willing to take refugees we can handle it. Even China offered five million dollars, but only if we really needed it. LOL. I think every country in the world wants to be on record as offering help incase they need help from us later. Don't you think? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:28:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am absolutely amazed at the lack of action from the mayor. I see a man pleading for help, fine, but could he and his administration not done more to help the situation? Even getting port a potties to the dome and convention center to improve sanitation would have helped the situation while waiting on the guard to come evacuate. Er, how many porta-potties we talking about, and how would they get them, and how would they get them to where they were needed? Uh... I assume there are port a pottie rental places all over a city the size of NO including out lying areas and could have been requested and brought by truck on the same route they brought in the buses. How many? As many as they could find. But then, maybe they did request them but couldn't provide security for the people bringing them in. Actually, they didn't expect people to have to stay in the Superdome long enough for extra sanitation facilities to be necessary, even in the event of a power (and hence a plumbing) failure. They expected those folks would be evacuated from the dome in a timely fashion by the National Guard or FEMA. Obviously once things became flooded, there was no way to get port-a-potties from all over the city to the dome. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heads WILL roll over New Orleans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..but whoose heads? http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/4/171811/1974 This is just so unbelievably damning. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Do You Know What It Means to Lose New Orleans?'
Don't trust anything she says, she's a vampire! Oh, and Bush is one too! --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: September 4, 2005 Do You Know What It Means to Lose New Orleans?By ANNE RICE La Jolla, Calif. WHAT do people really know about New Orleans? Do they take away with them an awareness that it has always been not only a great white metropolis but also a great black city, a city where African-Americans have come together again and again to form the strongest African-American culture in the land? The first literary magazine ever published in Louisiana was the work of black men, French-speaking poets and writers who brought together their work in three issues of a little book called L'Album Littéraire. That was in the 1840's, and by that time the city had a prosperous class of free black artisans, sculptors, businessmen, property owners, skilled laborers in all fields. Thousands of slaves lived on their own in the city, too, making a living at various jobs, and sending home a few dollars to their owners in the country at the end of the month. This is not to diminish the horror of the slave market in the middle of the famous St. Louis Hotel, or the injustice of the slave labor on plantations from one end of the state to the other. It is merely to say that it was never all have or have not in this strange and beautiful city. Later in the 19th century, as the Irish immigrants poured in by the thousands, filling the holds of ships that had emptied their cargoes of cotton in Liverpool, and as the German and Italian immigrants soon followed, a vital and complex culture emerged. Huge churches went up to serve the great faith of the city's European-born Catholics; convents and schools and orphanages were built for the newly arrived and the struggling; the city expanded in all directions with new neighborhoods of large, graceful houses, or areas of more humble cottages, even the smallest of which, with their floor-length shutters and deep-pitched roofs, possessed an undeniable Caribbean charm. Through this all, black culture never declined in Louisiana. In fact, New Orleans became home to blacks in a way, perhaps, that few other American cities have ever been. Dillard University and Xavier University became two of the most outstanding black colleges in America; and once the battles of desegregation had been won, black New Orleanians entered all levels of life, building a visible middle class that is absent in far too many Western and Northern American cities to this day. The influence of blacks on the music of the city and the nation is too immense and too well known to be described. It was black musicians coming down to New Orleans for work who nicknamed the city the Big Easy because it was a place where they could always find a job. But it's not fair to the nature of New Orleans to think of jazz and the blues as the poor man's music, or the music of the oppressed. Something else was going on in New Orleans. The living was good there. The clock ticked more slowly; people laughed more easily; people kissed; people loved; there was joy. Which is why so many New Orleanians, black and white, never went north. They didn't want to leave a place where they felt at home in neighborhoods that dated back centuries; they didn't want to leave families whose rounds of weddings, births and funerals had become the fabric of their lives. They didn't want to leave a city where tolerance had always been able to outweigh prejudice, where patience had always been able to outweigh rage. They didn't want to leave a place that was theirs. And so New Orleans prospered, slowly, unevenly, but surely - home to Protestants and Catholics, including the Irish parading through the old neighborhood on St. Patrick's Day as they hand out cabbages and potatoes and onions to the eager crowds; including the Italians, with their lavish St. Joseph's altars spread out with cakes and cookies in homes and restaurants and churches every March; including the uptown traditionalists who seek to preserve the peace and beauty of the Garden District; including the Germans with their clubs and traditions; including the black population playing an ever increasing role in the city's civic affairs. Now nature has done what the Civil War couldn't do. Nature has done what the labor riots of the 1920's couldn't do. Nature had done what modern life with its relentless pursuit of efficiency couldn't do. It has done what racism couldn't do, and what segregation couldn't do either. Nature has laid the city waste - with a scope that brings to mind the end of Pompeii. I share this history for a reason - and to answer questions that have arisen these last few days. Almost as soon as the cameras began panning over the rooftops, and the helicopters began chopping free those trapped in their attics, a chorus of voices rose.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:50:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor.Oh, how odd, somehow everything else in my postmust have dropped off somehow. Yeah , I saw the whole thing the first time. Still , they never had a game plan other than saying"you're on you own, get out". Somebody drives those school buses five days a week. Saturday could have been a mandatory work day in an emergency for those drivers or there could have been designated drivers preplanned to drive preplanned evacuation routes. Still, they wouldn't have saved everybody because people are stubborn , stupid or hard headed and just aren't going to leave. However, it would have given those that did want to get out, but had no transportation or money or whatever a lot of the other excuses were, an opportunity to get to a public shelter out of the city. With proper planning they could have moved tens ofthousands in a 40 or 45 hour period. Buses could have even been brought in from out lying school districts if the governor ordered it. Still a lack of planning. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
In a message dated 9/4/05 5:59:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOLThere were several breaches. The big one on17th Street could not possibly have beencaused by a grain barge; grain barges arenot used on Lake Pontchartrain. Grain bargesmay have been responsible for one of thesmaller breaches elsewhere. I have no idea whether the story about the grain barges is true or not. However that doesn't mean there are no empty grain barges on that lake. They could be there for any number of reasons. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Old News: Luminary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is, how do you say, ..strong in the knowledge. lurk Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
In a message dated 9/4/05 6:03:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh... I assume there are port a pottie rental places all over a city the size of NO including out lying areas and could have been requested and brought by truck on the same route they brought in the buses. How many? As many as they could find. But then, maybe they did request them but couldn't provide security for the people bringing them in.Or maybe they couldn't find drivers to bring them in since only the ultra-poor/old, and emergency people were left.The convention center and superdome were meant to be one or two day facilities, not 5 days. I think an owner of a business that rents those things would have been happy to do business with the city. Regardless of how long the intended stay was meant to be the mayor should have made an attempt to relieve the situation while waiting for the Guard to show up. Even if they Guard got there first and started evacuations before the portable toilets got there.He didn't have to do it himself, he could have delegated somebody to take care of it. But then maybe FEMA turned them away. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:50:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So neither the governor nor the mayor had a plan to rescue or evacuate NO poor. Oh, how odd, somehow everything else in my post must have dropped off somehow. Yeah , I saw the whole thing the first time. Still , they never had a game plan other than sayingyou're on you own, get out. Somebody drives those school buses five days a week. Saturday could have been a mandatory work day in an emergency for those drivers or there could have been designated drivers preplanned to drive preplanned evacuation routes. Still, they wouldn't have saved everybody because people are stubborn , stupid or hard headed and just aren't going to leave. However, it would have given those that did want to get out, but had no transportation or money or whatever a lot of the other excuses were, an opportunity to get to a public shelter out of the city. With proper planning they could have moved tens of thousands in a 40 or 45 hour period. Buses could have even been brought in from out lying school districts if the governor ordered it. Still a lack of planning. You know, a moment's reflection should tell you that, given they knew how many people there were without transportation, and that they *did* have plans to deal with the problem, it isn't very likely that there were better solutions of the kind you suggest that they hadn't already considered and rejected for good reason, or that were clearly not feasible in the first place. They know what their resources are and what's possible and what isn't; you don't. If we had some kind of evidence that they had simply brushed the problem off, or hadn't known it existed, you might have a point. But not only do we not have such evidence, we have very solid evidence to the contrary. This is just common sense, which seems to be in extremely short supply on the wingnut side of the equation. Moreover, increasing numbers of *responsible* conservatives, including previous fans of Bush, are recognizing where the real failure lies and aren't attempting desperately to pin all the blame on local authorities. The knee-jerk wingnuts like yourself and Shemp who continue to maintain their state of denial are becoming more and more isolated. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:59:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOL There were several breaches. The big one on 17th Street could not possibly have been caused by a grain barge; grain barges are not used on Lake Pontchartrain. Grain barges may have been responsible for one of the smaller breaches elsewhere. I have no idea whether the story about the grain barges is true or not. However that doesn't mean there are no empty grain barges on that lake. They could be there for any number of reasons. No, there are no empty grain barges on the lake, nor would there be, for any reason. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting image of Katrina and America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 6:03:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh... I assume there are port a pottie rental places all over a city the size of NO including out lying areas and could have been requested and brought by truck on the same route they brought in the buses. How many? As many as they could find. But then, maybe they did request them but couldn't provide security for the people bringing them in. Or maybe they couldn't find drivers to bring them in since only the ultra-poor/old, and emergency people were left. The convention center and superdome were meant to be one or two day facilities, not 5 days. I think an owner of a business that rents those things would have been happy to do business with the city. Regardless of how long the intended stay was meant to be the mayor should have made an attempt to relieve the situation while waiting for the Guard to show up. No, you see, by that time the roads were flooded and there was no way to get the port-a-potties there even if a need for them had been anticipated. Even if they Guard got there first and started evacuations before the portable toilets got there. He didn't have to do it himself, he could have delegated somebody to take care of it. But then maybe FEMA turned them away. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is reported that President Chavez of Venezuela, has offered help; For hurricane relief, in the form of hospital ship, etc. The United States Government has reportedly refused the help. My son has read that 60countries have offered help, and allhave been refused -not just Cuba and Venuzuela, but the UK and Canada as well ...which is prepostrous. The RAF are very experienced at low level parcel dropping with their Hercules...in flight refuelling ...long distance...superb aircraft (US made). We probably have a stock of suitable stores since we have done it so often. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. News flash to Judy: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Plus which: ...The City was acutely aware of the problem of evacing the poor and others who couldn't get out, but didn't have the resources to do it. Even with the claims on Drudge, the reality is the City didn't have 200 bus drivers to volunteer to drive them. The young man who comandeered a school bus was great, but imagine just grabbing two hundred drivers and sending them in heavy traffic to evacuate--the number of problems involving accidents would only make a difficult evacuation harder. City resources were focused on securing the city and moving people within the city to shelters including the Superdome. An action that saved innumerable lives. During Ivan, only 1200 people showed up at the Superdome. Since Ivan, the City improved its plan and had city buses run routes for people without cars to places where other special bus routes ran people to shelters. This time, 20-30,000 people got there. If there was a mistake, it was not designating another shelter of last resort-- such as the Convention Center (this would have helped additionally because there would have been some real security planned). The State and the City were acutely aware that a mandatory evacuation would still leave at least 100,000 behind. There simply is no infrastructure to solve that problem anywhere in the nation. Knowing that, the City was working to make the Superdome retrofitted in its rehab to provide exactly the kind of improvements that would have alleviated the suffering--power sources and sewage modifications. http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012870.html Evacuation Preparedness Times-Picayune (New Orleans) July 24, 2005 Sunday In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation. In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation. You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you, Wilkins said in an interview. If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you. But we don't have the transportation Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action. The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends, Truehill said. In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind. Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height in September, Katz said http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012862.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Potemkin photo-op
Judy: I know you are SO partisan and SO desparate to exploit this tragedy so you can blame Bush. Fine. Go ahead and do so. But why don't you have the decency to wait -- say -- two weeks before we actually know WHO to blame... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Potemkin Photo Op Saturday, September 03 2005 @ 09:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time Contributed by: Stranger I was tuning in and out of Bush's massive photo op on the Gulf Coast yesterday, and everything at the time seemed just a little too pat for me. From the 'briefing' that went on in a hangar full of helicopters to his walking down a street in Biloxi and having three regular citizens walk up to him for comforting to the last press availiability of the day when he announced that the Convention Center was secure and the levees were being repaired, it was clear that the game plan from the White House was for Bush to go to the region, look decisive, comfort a few citizens, and announce at the end of the day that all was well. It was a full-on effort to change the subject of discussion from the utter failure of the Bush administration to handle the crisis with even a hint of competency, and in true Bush fashion, he wrapped it up at 5:00 PM and announced that he was 'Flyin' out of (t)here.' But from beginning to end, the entire exercise was a series of lies - a Potemkin photo op designed to fool those Americans who were not bothering to look closely at what was going on. Let's look at key aspects of Bush's trip that were covered by television. Read the appalling details at: http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20050903214041794 http://tinyurl.com/7zopg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Malkin to Bush: Fire Brown (ATT: Shemp)
But weren't you the one, Judy, just a few days ago implicitly telling us that Malkin has no credibility because she suggested that the internment of Japanese during WWII was justified? Can't have it both ways, Judy...either Malkin is credible or she isn't...which is it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, sorry to have to tell you this, but the worm has turned. Your fave Michelle is in the process of seeing the light: MEMO TO BUSH: FIRE MICHAEL BROWN By Michelle Malkin · September 04, 2005 08:17 AM During his visit to Mobile, Ala., on Friday, President Bush singled out Michael D. Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, for praise: Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. Really? Brownie's job is to direct the federal response to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina. Let's review his public statements during the past week: - He admitted that he didn't act more aggressively because as late as last Sunday he expected Katrina to be a standard hurricane even though the National Weather Service in New Orleans was already predicting human suffering incredible by modern standards. - He proved himself utterly clueless about the disaster unfolding in New Orleans. He claimed that the federal relief effort was going relatively well and that the security situation in New Orleans was pretty darn good. - He blamed the flood victims in New Orleans for failing to evacuate on time, even though local authorities failed to make municipal vehicles available to residents who could not drive or did not own their own cars. [Not true. Buses were being used for evacuating carless residents until it became unsafe to do so with the hurricane's approach.--JS] It took four days to begin a large-scale evacuation of people stranded in the Superdome stadium and to bring in significant amounts of food and water to an American city easily accessible by motorway, the Observer notes. Relief agencies took half that time to reach Indonesia after the Boxing Day tsunami. Although the delay was not entirely the fault of the Bush Administration, Brown's complacency clearly didn't help. And his bumbling statements after the hurricane struck have not inspired confidence. This is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt. The FEMA director's role in the ongoing recovery effort is too important to be entrusted to a clueless political hack with such poor judgment. Rather than praise Michael Brown, Bush should fire him. *** Update, 9:15am: Brendan Loy has a superb post about Brown's failure to anticipate the enormity of Katrina (hat tip: Glenn Reynolds): No one -- NO ONE -- who knows anything about New Orleans's geography and topography and levee system would ever have thought for a single moment on Saturday and Sunday that Katrina, if it followed the predicted path, was going to be a typical hurricane situation. Jesus Christ!! For how many years now has this article been out there?!? And this one? And many more like them? Did Michael Brown never read them? Was he not familiar with the science? Was FEMA's director unaware of what has been acknowledged for many years as the #1 most serious natural disaster threat in all of America?!? 9:45am EDT: Brown is being criticized on FOX News Sunday. He has a lot to answer for, says Bill Kistol. He clearly did not know what was going on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 6:51:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, a moment's reflection should tell youthat, given they knew how many people there werewithout transportation, and that they *did* haveplans to deal with the problem, it isn't verylikely that there were better solutions of the kindyou suggest that they hadn't already consideredand rejected for good reason, or that were clearlynot feasible in the first place.They know what their resources are and what'spossible and what isn't; you don't. You know it works both ways. Nobody, outside of the most inner loops, knows exactly what is going on but there sure are a lot of questions for everybody to ask of everybody in Government from local to state to federal. Nobody knows how factual any of the reporting is or if anybody that makes a report has all of the facts and a truly clear perception of the reality of everything that is going on. What I have found particularly disturbing in this whole tragedy is the immediate politicization from day one. And the intense personal attacks while people are trying to deal with a difficult and emotional situation. Everyone has been trying to play a game of gotcha. As Michael Chertoff said and Bush said from the first day, they are concentrating their efforts on getting the job done and there will be plenty of time to analyze what went well and what went wrong and where to affix blame later on once the job is complete. Now I know you well enough Judy to takethat as dodging tough questions but it's not. It's keeping focus on doing the job. No doubt there will be investigations down the road to get any and all answers. Even Clinton's former FEMA directorindicated that you just don't anticipate all that hashappened and becompletely prepared for it as is in this case. In short, nobody likes what we are seeing played out before our eyes, but then nobody has all of the facts yet either. And as Jesse Jackson says, be careful when you point a finger because there are three more pointing back at you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
In a message dated 9/4/05 6:53:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, there are no empty grain barges on the lake,nor would there be, for any reason. I'm curious, you say that with confidence. How are you in a position to know? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 7:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves.News flash to Judy:They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Not if they're not union. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The potential drivers were waithing to loot sack did so
Sad commentary on those lacking in consciouness!-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:40:22 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ... In a message dated 9/4/05 7:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves.News flash to Judy:They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Not if they're not union.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. News flash to Judy: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. OK, Shemp, that gets the prize as the most idiotic remark you have ever made (at least that I've heard or read). Plus which: ...The City was acutely aware of the problem of evacing the poor and others who couldn't get out, but didn't have the resources to do it. Even with the claims on Drudge, the reality is the City didn't have 200 bus drivers to volunteer to drive them. The young man who comandeered a school bus was great, but imagine just grabbing two hundred drivers and sending them in heavy traffic to evacuate-- the number of problems involving accidents would only make a difficult evacuation harder. City resources were focused on securing the city and moving people within the city to shelters including the Superdome. An action that saved innumerable lives. During Ivan, only 1200 people showed up at the Superdome. Since Ivan, the City improved its plan and had city buses run routes for people without cars to places where other special bus routes ran people to shelters. This time, 20-30,000 people got there. If there was a mistake, it was not designating another shelter of last resort-- such as the Convention Center (this would have helped additionally because there would have been some real security planned). The State and the City were acutely aware that a mandatory evacuation would still leave at least 100,000 behind. There simply is no infrastructure to solve that problem anywhere in the nation. Knowing that, the City was working to make the Superdome retrofitted in its rehab to provide exactly the kind of improvements that would have alleviated the suffering--power sources and sewage modifications. http://www.archpundit.com/archives/012870.html Evacuation Preparedness Times-Picayune (New Orleans) July 24, 2005 Sunday In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation. In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation. You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you, Wilkins said in an interview. If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you. But we don't have the transportation Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action. The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends, Truehill said. In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind. Production likely will continue through August.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Potemkin photo-op
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy: I know you are SO partisan and SO desparate to exploit this tragedy so you can blame Bush. This is neither partisanship nor desperation, Shemp. These are cold, hard facts about absolutely ghastly suffering and stupefying incompetence. Even your heroine Michelle Malkin will only go so far as to say the administration isn't *entirely* to blame. (And I fully agree with her.) Fine. Go ahead and do so. But why don't you have the decency to wait -- say -- two weeks before we actually know WHO to blame... Aside from the fact that we know Bush is to blame, we also know from past experience that if we politely withhold criticism, the response becomes Let's put it all behind us, get over it. It's way past time to start holding this administration accountable. If it were a Democratic president, you and all the rest of the mindless wingnuts would be howling bloody murder and demanding impeachment and a prison term. But in any case, if you actually read what I posted, and read the rest of the piece at the link I provided, you'll find it isn't even *about* blame for the disaster Part of the reason you are so chronically confused about what's going on in the world is that you don't pay attention; you just make it up according to what you would *like* to be going on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Potemkin Photo Op Saturday, September 03 2005 @ 09:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time Contributed by: Stranger I was tuning in and out of Bush's massive photo op on the Gulf Coast yesterday, and everything at the time seemed just a little too pat for me. From the 'briefing' that went on in a hangar full of helicopters to his walking down a street in Biloxi and having three regular citizens walk up to him for comforting to the last press availiability of the day when he announced that the Convention Center was secure and the levees were being repaired, it was clear that the game plan from the White House was for Bush to go to the region, look decisive, comfort a few citizens, and announce at the end of the day that all was well. It was a full-on effort to change the subject of discussion from the utter failure of the Bush administration to handle the crisis with even a hint of competency, and in true Bush fashion, he wrapped it up at 5:00 PM and announced that he was 'Flyin' out of (t)here.' But from beginning to end, the entire exercise was a series of lies - a Potemkin photo op designed to fool those Americans who were not bothering to look closely at what was going on. Let's look at key aspects of Bush's trip that were covered by television. Read the appalling details at: http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20050903214041794 http://tinyurl.com/7zopg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'French Quarter Holdouts Create 'Tribes'...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Malkin to Bush: Fire Brown (ATT: Shemp)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But weren't you the one, Judy, just a few days ago implicitly telling us that Malkin has no credibility because she suggested that the internment of Japanese during WWII was justified? Can't have it both ways, Judy...either Malkin is credible or she isn't...which is it? Actually you can have it both ways. When someone whose normal bias is so strongly in one direction as to cast her credibility in question turns around and criticizes what she would ordinarily support, you have to assume she isn't making stuff up, because it goes against the grain. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, sorry to have to tell you this, but the worm has turned. Your fave Michelle is in the process of seeing the light: MEMO TO BUSH: FIRE MICHAEL BROWN By Michelle Malkin · September 04, 2005 08:17 AM During his visit to Mobile, Ala., on Friday, President Bush singled out Michael D. Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, for praise: Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. Really? Brownie's job is to direct the federal response to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina. Let's review his public statements during the past week: - He admitted that he didn't act more aggressively because as late as last Sunday he expected Katrina to be a standard hurricane even though the National Weather Service in New Orleans was already predicting human suffering incredible by modern standards. - He proved himself utterly clueless about the disaster unfolding in New Orleans. He claimed that the federal relief effort was going relatively well and that the security situation in New Orleans was pretty darn good. - He blamed the flood victims in New Orleans for failing to evacuate on time, even though local authorities failed to make municipal vehicles available to residents who could not drive or did not own their own cars. [Not true. Buses were being used for evacuating carless residents until it became unsafe to do so with the hurricane's approach.-- JS] It took four days to begin a large-scale evacuation of people stranded in the Superdome stadium and to bring in significant amounts of food and water to an American city easily accessible by motorway, the Observer notes. Relief agencies took half that time to reach Indonesia after the Boxing Day tsunami. Although the delay was not entirely the fault of the Bush Administration, Brown's complacency clearly didn't help. And his bumbling statements after the hurricane struck have not inspired confidence. This is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt. The FEMA director's role in the ongoing recovery effort is too important to be entrusted to a clueless political hack with such poor judgment. Rather than praise Michael Brown, Bush should fire him. *** Update, 9:15am: Brendan Loy has a superb post about Brown's failure to anticipate the enormity of Katrina (hat tip: Glenn Reynolds): No one -- NO ONE -- who knows anything about New Orleans's geography and topography and levee system would ever have thought for a single moment on Saturday and Sunday that Katrina, if it followed the predicted path, was going to be a typical hurricane situation. Jesus Christ!! For how many years now has this article been out there?!? And this one? And many more like them? Did Michael Brown never read them? Was he not familiar with the science? Was FEMA's director unaware of what has been acknowledged for many years as the #1 most serious natural disaster threat in all of America?!? 9:45am EDT: Brown is being criticized on FOX News Sunday. He has a lot to answer for, says Bill Kistol. He clearly did not know what was going on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Malkin to Bush: Fire Brown (ATT: Shemp)
The best preachers are converts... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But weren't you the one, Judy, just a few days ago implicitly telling us that Malkin has no credibility because she suggested that the internment of Japanese during WWII was justified? Can't have it both ways, Judy...either Malkin is credible or she isn't...which is it? Actually you can have it both ways. When someone whose normal bias is so strongly in one direction as to cast her credibility in question turns around and criticizes what she would ordinarily support, you have to assume she isn't making stuff up, because it goes against the grain. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, sorry to have to tell you this, but the worm has turned. Your fave Michelle is in the process of seeing the light: MEMO TO BUSH: FIRE MICHAEL BROWN By Michelle Malkin · September 04, 2005 08:17 AM During his visit to Mobile, Ala., on Friday, President Bush singled out Michael D. Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, for praise: Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. Really? Brownie's job is to direct the federal response to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina. Let's review his public statements during the past week: - He admitted that he didn't act more aggressively because as late as last Sunday he expected Katrina to be a standard hurricane even though the National Weather Service in New Orleans was already predicting human suffering incredible by modern standards. - He proved himself utterly clueless about the disaster unfolding in New Orleans. He claimed that the federal relief effort was going relatively well and that the security situation in New Orleans was pretty darn good. - He blamed the flood victims in New Orleans for failing to evacuate on time, even though local authorities failed to make municipal vehicles available to residents who could not drive or did not own their own cars. [Not true. Buses were being used for evacuating carless residents until it became unsafe to do so with the hurricane's approach.- - JS] It took four days to begin a large-scale evacuation of people stranded in the Superdome stadium and to bring in significant amounts of food and water to an American city easily accessible by motorway, the Observer notes. Relief agencies took half that time to reach Indonesia after the Boxing Day tsunami. Although the delay was not entirely the fault of the Bush Administration, Brown's complacency clearly didn't help. And his bumbling statements after the hurricane struck have not inspired confidence. This is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt. The FEMA director's role in the ongoing recovery effort is too important to be entrusted to a clueless political hack with such poor judgment. Rather than praise Michael Brown, Bush should fire him. *** Update, 9:15am: Brendan Loy has a superb post about Brown's failure to anticipate the enormity of Katrina (hat tip: Glenn Reynolds): No one -- NO ONE -- who knows anything about New Orleans's geography and topography and levee system would ever have thought for a single moment on Saturday and Sunday that Katrina, if it followed the predicted path, was going to be a typical hurricane situation. Jesus Christ!! For how many years now has this article been out there?!? And this one? And many more like them? Did Michael Brown never read them? Was he not familiar with the science? Was FEMA's director unaware of what has been acknowledged for many years as the #1 most serious natural disaster threat in all of America?!? 9:45am EDT: Brown is being criticized on FOX News Sunday. He has a lot to answer for, says Bill Kistol. He clearly did not know what was going on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Gimme Shelter',/Maharishi Org./'Offers Housing to Hurricane Victims...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Maharishi Organization in Fairfield, Iowa, is discussing plans; To build vastu housing for victims of Hurricane Katrina. In addition to living in Life Supporting and Healing Housing They will be offered to learn meditation(TM), and levitation techniques; As Maharishi has said; To increase the numbers participating together; In group meditation practice; To achieve Collective Coherence based in the Laws of Quantum Physics. In addition, this will provide an opportunity for many throughout; The nation and the world; To become more familiar; With these ancient teachings of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. The Rumor Mill, Inc. Just what The victims of a horrendous disaster need In their hour of need and desperation Indoctrination into a cult __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
In a message dated 9/4/05 6:53:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOL There were several breaches. The big one on 17th Street could not possibly have been caused by a grain barge; grain barges are not used on Lake Pontchartrain. Grain barges may have been responsible for one of the smaller breaches elsewhere. I have no idea whether the story about the grain barges is true or not. However that doesn't mean there are no empty grain barges on that lake. They could be there for any number of reasons.No, there are no empty grain barges on the lake,nor would there be, for any reason. I'm watching a program on the Discovery Channel right nowtitled Killer Hurricane: Anatomy of Katrina and have already seen two scenes at the 17th street breach and there is a large grain barge, not thirty feet away from the breach. I don't know if this is what caused it and it hasn't been mentioned in the program, but it is there. I also remember hearing earlier this week on one of the newsreportsthat the Army Corp of Engineers was considering sinking a couple of old barges at the breaches in order to slow the flow of water. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 6:53:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been checking also and haven't found anything either. However if Grain Barges did indeed cause the levee breach you can bet somebody is going to say they belonged to Bush. LOL There were several breaches. The big one on 17th Street could not possibly have been caused by a grain barge; grain barges are not used on Lake Pontchartrain. Grain barges may have been responsible for one of the smaller breaches elsewhere. I have no idea whether the story about the grain barges is true or not. However that doesn't mean there are no empty grain barges on that lake. They could be there for any number of reasons. No, there are no empty grain barges on the lake, nor would there be, for any reason. I'm watching a program on the Discovery Channel right now titled Killer Hurricane: Anatomy of Katrina and have already seen two scenes at the 17th street breach and there is a large grain barge, not thirty feet away from the breach. I don't know if this is what caused it and it hasn't been mentioned in the program, but it is there. I also remember hearing earlier this week on one of the news reports that the Army Corp of Engineers was considering sinking a couple of old barges at the breaches in order to slow the flow of water. That might be it. I can't now find what I read earlier, but it was from a New Orleans resident who was just hooting at the very idea that a grain barge could have caused the major breach at 17th Street. His reaction was akin to that of a New Yorker hearing someone say that there was an ocean liner in the Gowanus Canal. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 5:34:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WIthout enough people to make 100's of thousands of arrests (in the case of New Orleans), how do you enforce a mandatory evacuation? I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who refused to leave, but they could have announced emergency evacuation plans on Radio and TV starting Friday night and started picking up those that WANTED to leave at designated places and take them to shelters north and west of the city. All hey needed to do was get them out of NO and the path of the Katrina. Governor Blanco could have issued orders to open all public buildings including schools for evacuees. They had from Friday evening till Sunday morning at 6 am to move as many as wanted to go. We saw no such effort. I don't know if such effort was madeand neither do you. How couldyou? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Empty Grain Barges/Caused Levee Break'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] No, there are no empty grain barges on the lake, nor would there be, for any reason. How do you know this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Yahoo! News Photo_ (http://news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. News flash to Judy: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Are you a school bus driver? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 6:51:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, a moment's reflection should tell you that, given they knew how many people there were without transportation, and that they *did* have plans to deal with the problem, it isn't very likely that there were better solutions of the kind you suggest that they hadn't already considered and rejected for good reason, or that were clearly not feasible in the first place. They know what their resources are and what's possible and what isn't; you don't. You know it works both ways. Nobody, outside of the most inner loops, knows exactly what is going on but there sure are a lot of questions for everybody to ask of everybody in Government from local to state to federal. Nobody knows how factual any of the reporting is or if anybody that makes a report has all of the facts and a truly clear perception of the reality of everything that is going on. What I have found particularly disturbing in this whole tragedy is the immediate politicization from day one. And the intense personal attacks while people are trying to deal with a difficult and emotional situation. Everyone has been trying to play a game of gotcha. As Michael Chertoff said and Bush said from the first day, they are concentrating their efforts on getting the job done and there will be plenty of time to analyze what went well and what went wrong and where to affix blame later on once the job is complete. Now I know you well enough Judy to take that as dodging tough questions but it's not. It's keeping focus on doing the job. No doubt there will be investigations down the road to get any and all answers. You're missing the point, again. The initial criticisms weren't primarily about blame for what happened but for Bush's unthinkably callous public response. That isn't something you go back and analyze later; it was mainly symbolic, but the insensitivity was intolerable. And again, it was conservatives criticizing him as well as liberals. Then when the situation in New Orleans became more and more evident, the criticism was primarily about prodding the administration to act more quickly *right then* because people were dying from the lack of response. That's not political either, obviously. Now that the worst of the emergency seems to be past, the criticism has primarily to do with getting rid of the incompetents like Chertoff and Brown to ensure the rest of the relief effort isn't bungled-- or, God forbid, in case of another disaster coming on the heels of this one. So *that* isn't political. The *political* criticism, on this forum, at least, has come primarily from the right-wingers who are trying to defend the administration and can think of no way to do so except by trying to shift the blame onto the Democratic governor and mayor. That's not to say there haven't been some who have been making the case for Bush being responsible for the levees not being fixed and so on--that kind of thing *can* wait. If we could feel confident that the administration would engage in some honest self-examination and allow its actions to be investigated thoroughly once the crisis period was over, folks might be more willing to wait. But we know from long experience that this administration has never been willing to take responsibility for its mistakes, nor even allow them to be investigated properly. Even Clinton's former FEMA director indicated that you just don't anticipate all that has happened and be completely prepared for it as is in this case. In short, nobody likes what we are seeing played out before our eyes, but then nobody has all of the facts yet either. And as Jesse Jackson says, be careful when you point a finger because there are three more pointing back at you. Yes, I'm sure the right-wingers will eventually find a way to point fingers at Clinton and Witt, and probably Jackson as well for good measure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/4/05 7:20:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the poor during his mandatory evacuation? News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. News flash to Judy: They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. Not if they're not union. snicker It isn't even that. Stretch yourself, MDixon and Shemp. There are two major, obvious exceptions to the rule that ANYONE can drive the buses. I'll give you one for free: Only folks who know how to drive can drive the buses. Now, what's the second one? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'French Quarter Holdouts Create 'Tribes'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat- gen/2005/sep/04/090403502.html Great story, Robert! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
Two more points about the purported politicization of the Katrina disaster: First, if you're going to object to politicization, you ought to object to the politicization coming from the Bush administration. There have been a number of solid accounts of how they've been attempting to shift the blame to Blanco and Nagin, and the Republican talking points are showing a very clear trend to do precisely that. Second, another aspect of the current criticism is that DHA and FEMA officials are being rather blatantly untruthful in their public statements. Is it political to criticize an official for lying to the public about a current emergency? For example, there's this from Editor and Publisher: Hurricane Center Director Tells Paper He Briefed Brown and Chertoff on Danger of Severe Flooding By EP Staff Published: September 04, 2005 6:55 PM ET NEW YORK Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center, told the Times-Picayune Sunday afternoon that officials with the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security, including FEMA Director Mike Brown and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, listened in on electronic briefings given by his staff in advance of Hurricane Katrina slamming Louisiana and Mississippi--and were advised of the storm's potential deadly effects. Mayfield said the strength of the storm and the potential disaster it could bring were made clear during both the briefings and in formal advisories, which warned of a storm surge capable of overtopping levees in New Orleans and winds strong enough to blow out windows of high-rise buildings, the paper reported. He said the briefings included information on expected wind speed, storm surge, rainfall and the potential for tornados to accompany the storm as it came ashore. We were briefing them way before landfall, Mayfield said. It's not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped. Chertoff told reporters Saturday that government officials had not expected the damaging combination of a powerful hurricane levee breaches that flooded New Orleans. Brown, Mayfield said, is a dedicated public servant. The question is why he couldn't shake loose the resources that were needed,'' he said. Brown and Chertoff could not be reached for comment on Sunday afternoon. In the days before Katrina hit, Mayfield said, his staff also briefed FEMA, which under the Department of Homeland Security, at FEMA's headquarters in Washington, D.C., its Region 6 office in Dallas and the Region 4 office in Atlanta about the potential effects of the storm. He said all of those briefings were logged in the hurricane center's records. http://tinyurl.com/b4zm3 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is reported that President Chavez of Venezuela, has offered help; For hurricane relief, in the form of hospital ship, etc. The United States Government has reportedly refused the help. My son has read that 60countries have offered help, and allhave been refused -not just Cuba and Venuzuela, but the UK and Canada as well. Can't have the country that postures as the savior of the world gettin' any help from anybody, can we? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Old News: Luminary?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is, how do you say, ..strong in the knowledge. Actually, since she appeared in a lot of films nude, and was one of my early crushes among actresses in the cinema, I can assure you that she was not par- ticularly strong in the knowledge. But pure? Man, was she pure. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Do You Know What It Means to Lose New Orleans?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't trust anything she says, she's a vampire! Oh, and Bush is one too! They all suck! --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: September 4, 2005 Do You Know What It Means to Lose New Orleans?By ANNE RICE La Jolla, Calif. WHAT do people really know about New Orleans? Do they take away with them an awareness that it has always been not only a great white metropolis but also a great black city, a city where African-Americans have come together again and again to form the strongest African-American culture in the land? The first literary magazine ever published in Louisiana was the work of black men, French-speaking poets and writers who brought together their work in three issues of a little book called L'Album Littéraire. That was in the 1840's, and by that time the city had a prosperous class of free black artisans, sculptors, businessmen, property owners, skilled laborers in all fields. Thousands of slaves lived on their own in the city, too, making a living at various jobs, and sending home a few dollars to their owners in the country at the end of the month. This is not to diminish the horror of the slave market in the middle of the famous St. Louis Hotel, or the injustice of the slave labor on plantations from one end of the state to the other. It is merely to say that it was never all have or have not in this strange and beautiful city. Later in the 19th century, as the Irish immigrants poured in by the thousands, filling the holds of ships that had emptied their cargoes of cotton in Liverpool, and as the German and Italian immigrants soon followed, a vital and complex culture emerged. Huge churches went up to serve the great faith of the city's European-born Catholics; convents and schools and orphanages were built for the newly arrived and the struggling; the city expanded in all directions with new neighborhoods of large, graceful houses, or areas of more humble cottages, even the smallest of which, with their floor-length shutters and deep-pitched roofs, possessed an undeniable Caribbean charm. Through this all, black culture never declined in Louisiana. In fact, New Orleans became home to blacks in a way, perhaps, that few other American cities have ever been. Dillard University and Xavier University became two of the most outstanding black colleges in America; and once the battles of desegregation had been won, black New Orleanians entered all levels of life, building a visible middle class that is absent in far too many Western and Northern American cities to this day. The influence of blacks on the music of the city and the nation is too immense and too well known to be described. It was black musicians coming down to New Orleans for work who nicknamed the city the Big Easy because it was a place where they could always find a job. But it's not fair to the nature of New Orleans to think of jazz and the blues as the poor man's music, or the music of the oppressed. Something else was going on in New Orleans. The living was good there. The clock ticked more slowly; people laughed more easily; people kissed; people loved; there was joy. Which is why so many New Orleanians, black and white, never went north. They didn't want to leave a place where they felt at home in neighborhoods that dated back centuries; they didn't want to leave families whose rounds of weddings, births and funerals had become the fabric of their lives. They didn't want to leave a city where tolerance had always been able to outweigh prejudice, where patience had always been able to outweigh rage. They didn't want to leave a place that was theirs. And so New Orleans prospered, slowly, unevenly, but surely - home to Protestants and Catholics, including the Irish parading through the old neighborhood on St. Patrick's Day as they hand out cabbages and potatoes and onions to the eager crowds; including the Italians, with their lavish St. Joseph's altars spread out with cakes and cookies in homes and restaurants and churches every March; including the uptown traditionalists who seek to preserve the peace and beauty of the Garden District; including the Germans with their clubs and traditions; including the black population playing an ever increasing role in the city's civic affairs. Now nature has done what the Civil War couldn't do. Nature has done what the labor riots of the 1920's couldn't do. Nature had done what modern life with its relentless pursuit of efficiency couldn't do. It has done what racism couldn't do, and what segregation couldn't do either. Nature has laid the city waste - with a scope that brings to mind the end of Pompeii. I share this history for a reason - and to answer
