[FairfieldLife] Re: Work deadline over, St. Emilion in hand, and Gram on the box...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emmylou Harris speaks of Gram Parsons - http://tinyurl.com/2dnujv Nice. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pavlovvs_dog Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI FUCK OFF NAZI ! RICK, I want a vote from FFL members to remove this Nazi from FFL He should not be a moderator. He is a Nazi chickenshit manipulator of FFL. GET THE FUCK OFF FFL Nazi ! I don't think either of you should be removed. You've both been around for years and have both been valuable contributors. I think you're just experiencing how people react when you (or anyone) insults them with demeaning terms, such as moron (or worse), rather than engaging in intelligent dialog. I think GF overreacted and shouldn't have removed you. I also think you shouldn't have called him a moron. Nabby called me trash this morning, Would White Trash be a more fitting description for someone who routinely is spreading viscious rumours ? but I wasn't inclined to remove him. I smiled at the irony of someone who regards himself as more spiritually advanced than the rest of us I don't. resorting to childish insults rather than responding to a straightforward question. I did but you did not pay attention. Instead you ignited your friend, the socalled Dr. petersupthen to give anal descriptions about someone he has never met. That's a common pattern with him. in fact, I would suggest than anyone who resorts to profanity and insult has lost the debate at hand. Yes that is a fitting description for yourself who is spreading poisenous rumours about others. Their intellect has punked out and they've reverted to childish tantrums. Unsubscribing someone for behaving that way might also been seen as childish a sort of I'm taking my football and going home reaction. Reapply under your usual handle if you want to and I'll reinstate you. But please consider what I stated above. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Maharishi Invincibility Center--Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping
*Maharishi** Invincibility Center*** *Maharishi** Vedic City*** *Is pleased to announce--* * * *Landmark Brain Mapping Demonstration Now Offered* * * *Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping * *in Maharishi Vedic City Invincibility Center * * * *Maharishi speaks on the profound value of 'Brain Mapping', July 2005* * * *With Brain Mapping…..We see Brahm, totality of knowledge, with eyes open. **This is vision of total knowledge—not a narration of total knowledge, but a visualization of total knowledge. This is going to be our playground from now on. The field of enlightenment….so beautiful. To be seeing enlightenment….seeing enlightenment.* * * *A Historic Opportunity to Visualize the Unified Field--See Brahm* * * *Introduction to Brain Mapping* *Free One Hour Seminar with Lively Q A* *Live EEG Brain Mapping During Transcendental Meditation(r) and Vedic Recitation* * * *Conducted by UCLA-Trained Neuroscientist* *Dr. Alarik Arenander * *Minister of Science and Technology for Center of Vedic America* *Director, Brain Research Institute, Maharishi University of Management** * * * *Wednesday, August 29th8:15 PM to 9:15 PM* *Friday, August 31st2:15 PM to 3:15 PM* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**, Headley Hall, Room 203* * * *Each session will be limited to 20 people. * *Please call or email (reply) today to reserve your space.* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**: * * * *641-472-1950* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *You can also reserve your* ** *Two-Hour Private Brain Mapping Session*** *Historic Opportunity--See your enlightenment, deeply appreciate your brainwaves and participate in documenting the greatest transformational group in history, the Invincible America Assembly. * *A very fulfilling confirmation for you!* ** ** * * -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Maharishi Invincibility Center--Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapp
AaaaI'd but that fur a dollar! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Maharishi** Invincibility Center*** *Maharishi** Vedic City*** *Is pleased to announce--* * * *Landmark Brain Mapping Demonstration Now Offered* * * *Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping * *in Maharishi Vedic City Invincibility Center * * * *Maharishi speaks on the profound value of 'Brain Mapping', July 2005* * * *With Brain Mapping ..We see Brahm, totality of knowledge, with eyes open. **This is vision of total knowledgenot a narration of total knowledge, but a visualization of total knowledge. This is going to be our playground from now on. The field of enlightenment .so beautiful. To be seeing enlightenment .seeing enlightenment.* * * *A Historic Opportunity to Visualize the Unified Field--See Brahm* * * *Introduction to Brain Mapping* *Free One Hour Seminar with Lively Q A* *Live EEG Brain Mapping During Transcendental Meditation(r) and Vedic Recitation* * * *Conducted by UCLA-Trained Neuroscientist* *Dr. Alarik Arenander * *Minister of Science and Technology for Center of Vedic America* *Director, Brain Research Institute, Maharishi University of Management** * * * *Wednesday, August 29th8:15 PM to 9:15 PM* *Friday, August 31st2:15 PM to 3:15 PM* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**, Headley Hall, Room 203* * * *Each session will be limited to 20 people. * *Please call or email (reply) today to reserve your space.* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**: * * * *641-472-1950* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *You can also reserve your* ** *Two-Hour Private Brain Mapping Session*** *Historic Opportunity--See your enlightenment, deeply appreciate your brainwaves and participate in documenting the greatest transformational group in history, the Invincible America Assembly. * *A very fulfilling confirmation for you!* ** ** * * -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
[FairfieldLife] Hello from India
Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Maharishi Invincibility Center--Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Landmark Brain Mapping Demonstration Now Offered* *Conducted by UCLA-Trained Neuroscientist* *Dr. Alarik Arenander * *Minister of Science and Technology for Center of Vedic America* *Director, Brain Research Institute, Maharishi University of Management** * *You can also reserve your* *Two-Hour Private Brain Mapping Session*** *Historic Opportunity--See your enlightenment, deeply appreciate your brainwaves and participate in documenting the greatest transformational group in history, the Invincible America Assembly. * *A very fulfilling confirmation for you!* See those little squiggly lines there? That means you're enlightened. Cool, eh? That'll be 500 dollars.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there. Who is the group you are with? Tanmay
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there. Who is the group you are with? Tanmay People around Mother Meera
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
Before I ask the next question, I simply state there is a transparency in my path, it is actually required. It is asked, if something is not transparent, then perhaps it should be looked at to see if this is a useful thing for one to keep in their life. While transparency is a significant spiritul thing in my path, no coment for how others choose or their Guru procedes with or without transparency. I will just comment that it is something to think over maybe as one may realize that something they are trying to hide from being revealed may in fact be something that is not useful for their own evolution. This policy is how it is in my path and not meaning to say it must be in all other paths or your path, what ever path that is, is better or worse. I am stating something that exists in my path only, no need for asumptions that I think something about another path where this policy is not in place. I do however see a profound usefullness in the transparency policy that is in my path. Ok, now I will be in India with my Guru from mid october through mid december. Maybe we will be in Rishikesh alot but may travel around as well. If anyone asked me that their Guru is interested in meeting my Guru, heads would roll if the disciple did not inform my Guru that such requests are there. Once again, while this is something in my path, I saw a circus atmosphere in another path after I accepted an intitial inventation on behalf of my Guru to meet their guru. It may have been that the disciples took it upon themselves to decide that such a request would not be forwared to their guru. My Guru's response to this is the operation is skewed that such a thing would take place. Be that as it may, I accept what ever comes along. Should it be that we are in the near and if Mother Meera is there at the time we are and if you have contact to Mother Meera, then I am requesting that you let Mother Meera know that a disciple of my Guru, Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri is interested to set up a meeting with Mother Meera. Let me know Tanmay --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there. Who is the group you are with? Tanmay People around Mother Meera
[FairfieldLife] Conditioned ignorance in both east and west
Om Namo Narayan- * Recently, finding out capability to be cool and nice with all shaktis and dakinis (specially Western) for the sake of understanding the nature of Nature Herself. Invited continuously to the West, but not visited, being afraid out of incapability to cope up with . . So, taking teachings through the Tribe.Net facing difficulty with Western antagonism, restless thoughts and terribly interesting Western dakinis and yoginis!!! 0- Here is a pointing - stop with the fixation on women - western or otherwise - as long as the body rules you there will be no Liberation. Since when does Aboslute wear the face of male or female ? There is Ground of Being center point or bindu. Then there is the flow of Shakti which is infinite in nature. Let go of chasing the infinite waves of Shakti whether male or female etc. etc. classifications as in this you are only hanging onto the edge of the revolving and spinning wheel. Come to the center and then the Lila is known rather than chased as maya. What you are speaking of comes under the catagory of chasing maya - hahahahahaha and in this you will never win. Liberation or attempting to dance with an ever changing dyanmic which will turn you every way but loose ? The choice is yours. It is hard being a Guru in the west because former guru's were tainting the name by unethical ways. Also in the west what has been taught from early age is clearly egoism. There is also a breaking down of the respect for authority - and anything that comes from a point of authority versus an opininon is set upon by those who think that opinion is just as valid as Knowing. In other words if someone has something more than what i have then they are deluded because nothing more can exist other than what i have experienced and hold to be true within my current opinion. That or well i have read that it is *supposed* to be this way - and so fantasy and peoples imagination have replaced balanced indicators as to what to look for. So this is unfortunately the state of the west. India has it's own set of conditioned ignorance to break through. Maha Shanti OM 0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should it be that we are in the near and if Mother Meera is there at the time we are and if you have contact to Mother Meera, then I am requesting that you let Mother Meera know that a disciple of my Guru, Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri is interested to set up a meeting with Mother Meera. May I ask you to expound on what the *purpose* of such a meeting would be? I mean, it's a little strange. If you were asking because you want to meet her yourself, then you ask in your own name, with no refer- ence to who you might study with. That's irrelevant. If you're asking because you want to set up a meeting between your teacher and Mother Meera, that begs the question of *why* your teacher would want such a meeting. The first time I ever heard of her were her interactions with the Rasa Von Werder (Woman Thou Art God) woman, and I have to tell you that I came away from skimming that meeting thinking that both women were crazy as loons and that I wouldn't trust either of them with my *dog*, much less want to learn anything from them myself. This is actually a fairly serious question for you, Ron. If what you're really after is to have your guru meet Mother Meera, *what are your expectations* from such a meeting? Are you expecting some kind of pissing contest that your guru will win? Are you expecting Mother Meera to say something that you can then use to *promote* your guru and help her make more money (which you have said in the past is one of your goals)? Are you just interested in what they might have to say to each other? I'm asking because if you want her to meet Mother Meera based on some of the *other* meetings your guru has had with other teachers, you might want to rethink things a little. She doesn't come off very well when she gets in the same room with someone she sees as a com- petitor in the business. In my opinion, of course...your mileage may vary, and probably will, because you think she's kinda neat in the first place. All in all, I'm just asking because it's kind of a strange request, even stranger than some of your other evangelical activities here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead you ignited your friend, the socalled Dr. petersupthen to give anal descriptions about someone he has never met. Actually, Peter's only descriptive was fag. You, alone, brought anal into the discussion. It's funny to me how straight guys *immediately* think of buttsex when the topic of homosexuality comes up. They're just drawn to it, as if somewhere deep in their awareness, they innately *know* their male G spot is around back. Seriously, guys, if you want to have the most explosively mindblowing orgasms you've ever experienced, get one of these things: http://aneros.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Maharishi Invincibility Center--Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping
On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:30 AM, George DeForest wrote: Maharishi Invincibility Center Maharishi Vedic City Is pleased to announce-- Landmark Brain Mapping Demonstration Now Offered After which a demonstration on the latest techniques for fleecing people will also be offered. Stay tuned. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,717 in evening program -End of the Markets' correction ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mainstream20016 wrote: The SuperRadiance total yesterday evening in Fairfield was 1,717. It was only the third time this summer to reach 1700. The Dow is up 85 points this morning. Could the recent market correction be over ? Go Long and Strong in the markets, because the MUM student and faculty are returning, and 500 more Vedic Pandits are expected in the coming months. Go smoke another chillum full, 85 points is nothing. There is much more trouble ahead. We've been living too high on the hog for too long. TM TBs seem to equate a positive stock market with national enlightenment. A rising market is positive for stock owners for sure. But it's a more complex overall situation morally. More cancer and sickness due to lax envt regulation of carcinogins forcing people to go bankrupt paying for medical care is good for the stock market, wars and their no-bid contracts to war profiteers like Halliburton is good for the stock market, subsidies to big industrial farms using genetically engineered seeds and keeping small organic farms down is good for the stock market, being able to sell toxic products from china to american consumers is good for the stock market (getting caught is bad) -- all sorts of things that hurt individuals and small businesses but are good for large corporations are good for the stock market. Lots of people now own some stock in their 401Ks so a rising market helps their retirement portfolio no doubt, but I'm saying it's not a clear cut correlation between rising national consciousness and a rising stock market. And there are definitely times when a correction in the market is actually a healthy sign of common sense returning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Instead you ignited your friend, the socalled Dr. petersupthen to give anal descriptions about someone he has never met. Actually, Peter's only descriptive was fag. You, alone, brought anal into the discussion. It's funny to me how straight guys *immediately* think of buttsex when the topic of homosexuality comes up. They're just drawn to it, as if somewhere deep in their awareness, they innately *know* their male G spot is around back. Seriously, guys, if you want to have the most explosively mindblowing orgasms you've ever experienced, get one of these things: http://aneros.com/ So you are suggesting that fag is not a description of a male homesexual person, and that male faggots are not having anal sex ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul is winning all sorts of straw polls.
In a message dated 8/22/07 7:29:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had never heard of Ron Paul before I read about him in FFL. I have not heard about him outside of FFL since then. I have to ask how people outside of Iowa even know who he is, if the news does nto cover him. Perhaps fewer than are in the domes these days. Ron Paul is a little known congressman from Lake Jackson Texas, just south of Houston. He's a Republican with strong Libertarian views who considers the legalized growing of hemp to be an issue to run on. He is the republican party's answer to Dennis Kucinich. So far out there, he's not even in the ball park. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there. Who is the group you are with? Tanmay People around Mother Meera Is she traveling with you (I mean localized with you)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,717 in evening program -End of the Markets' correction ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: mainstream20016 wrote: The SuperRadiance total yesterday evening in Fairfield was 1,717. It was only the third time this summer to reach 1700. The Dow is up 85 points this morning. Could the recent market correction be over ? Go Long and Strong in the markets, because the MUM student and faculty are returning, and 500 more Vedic Pandits are expected in the coming months. Go smoke another chillum full, 85 points is nothing. There is much more trouble ahead. We've been living too high on the hog for too long. TM TBs seem to equate a positive stock market with national enlightenment. A rising market is positive for stock owners for sure. But it's a more complex overall situation morally. More cancer and sickness due to lax envt regulation of carcinogins forcing people to go bankrupt paying for medical care is good for the stock market, wars and their no-bid contracts to war profiteers like Halliburton is good for the stock market, subsidies to big industrial farms using genetically engineered seeds and keeping small organic farms down is good for the stock market, being able to sell toxic products from china to american consumers is good for the stock market (getting caught is bad) -- all sorts of things that hurt individuals and small businesses but are good for large corporations are good for the stock market. Lots of people now own some stock in their 401Ks so a rising market helps their retirement portfolio no doubt, but I'm saying it's not a clear cut correlation between rising national consciousness and a rising stock market. And there are definitely times when a correction in the market is actually a healthy sign of common sense returning. A number of detractors of the theory of M.E. use the term 'Painting the Bull's Eye around the Arrow', to discredit the TM movement when the movement attempts to 'take credit' for whatever good news is produced during the period of a M.E. group meditation demonstration project. The detractors' criticism historically has been very effective at undermining the credibility of the TM movement, yet the TM movement since the beginning of the Invincible America Course has effectively taken bold steps to predict specific results to be expected, and has hit the targets. It is the detractors of the theory of the M.E. who now carry paint and brushes to create targets after the fact disingenuously. -Mainstream
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Maharishi Invincibility Center--Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping
I would think brain-mapping refers to those scanners, not EEG machines. Have they bought a MRI scanner? If so, that would be amazing, and about time, since the visuals of the scanners are much more immediate and impressive to the average viewer. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Maharishi** Invincibility Center*** *Maharishi** Vedic City*** *Is pleased to announce--* * * *Landmark Brain Mapping Demonstration Now Offered* * * *Celebrating the Start of the Brain Mapping * *in Maharishi Vedic City Invincibility Center * * * *Maharishi speaks on the profound value of 'Brain Mapping', July 2005* * * *With Brain Mapping ..We see Brahm, totality of knowledge, with eyes open. **This is vision of total knowledgenot a narration of total knowledge, but a visualization of total knowledge. This is going to be our playground from now on. The field of enlightenment .so beautiful. To be seeing enlightenment .seeing enlightenment.* * * *A Historic Opportunity to Visualize the Unified Field--See Brahm* * * *Introduction to Brain Mapping* *Free One Hour Seminar with Lively Q A* *Live EEG Brain Mapping During Transcendental Meditation(r) and Vedic Recitation* * * *Conducted by UCLA-Trained Neuroscientist* *Dr. Alarik Arenander * *Minister of Science and Technology for Center of Vedic America* *Director, Brain Research Institute, Maharishi University of Management** * * * *Wednesday, August 29th8:15 PM to 9:15 PM* *Friday, August 31st2:15 PM to 3:15 PM* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**, Headley Hall, Room 203* * * *Each session will be limited to 20 people. * *Please call or email (reply) today to reserve your space.* *Maharishi** Vedic City Invincibility Center**: * * * *641-472-1950* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *You can also reserve your* ** *Two-Hour Private Brain Mapping Session*** *Historic Opportunity--See your enlightenment, deeply appreciate your brainwaves and participate in documenting the greatest transformational group in history, the Invincible America Assembly. * *A very fulfilling confirmation for you!* ** ** * * -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/? ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,717 in evening program -End of the Markets' correction and Long Run ME
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TM TBs seem to equate a positive stock market with national
enlightenment. A rising market is positive for stock owners for sure.
But it's a more complex overall situation morally. More cancer and
sickness due to lax envt regulation of carcinogins forcing people to
go bankrupt paying for medical care is good for the stock market, wars
and their no-bid contracts to war profiteers like Halliburton is good
for the stock market, subsidies to big industrial farms using
genetically engineered seeds and keeping small organic farms down is
good for the stock market, being able to sell toxic products from
china to american consumers is good for the stock market (getting
caught is bad) -- all sorts of things that hurt individuals and small
businesses but are good for large corporations are good for the stock
market. Lots of people now own some stock in their 401Ks so a rising
market helps their retirement portfolio no doubt, but I'm saying it's
not a clear cut correlation between rising national consciousness
and a rising stock market. And there are definitely times when a
correction in the market is actually a healthy sign of common sense
returning.
You raise some interesting views which in turn raise some interesting
questions (a former boss once said, No that is is not an interesting
point ('objecively'). It is merely interesting to you).
And these points, below, don't contradict what you say, but perhaps
add some additional perspective.
1) Are there 'bad' things currently that influence earnings and stock
levels?
*Yes. Many of the things you cite, and more.
2) Are these factors the majority influence on earnings?
*No. The major driver of sustained earnings growth (the
anticipation of which drives subsequent stock prices) are:
increased productivity, yielding i) a lower cost of goods and
service, ii) increased wage levels, iii) more advanced products (52
HDTV vs 21 old color analog TV, at a lower cost, and with higher
waged consumers who can afford them)
3) What influences long run sustained productivity (and thus earnings
and stock price growth)?
* a) infusions of technology via increased capital expenditures
(this can include human capital, training, education, health,etc)
b) increased innovation an creativity in individuals, and the
society as a whole
c) less resistance, removal of obstacles, direct stimulation
of a and b (change the fundamentals of the market via increased
technology development and infusion.)
4) Are there overnight effects of ME on stock market and do they
mean much?
* perhaps there are such short-term effects, but ME causality has
not begun to be well established. And even if it were, short term
changes in the market are not driven from fundamentals (see 3), but
rather from changes in the expectation of earnings. That is,
short-term changes in the market are not reflecting a substantive
shnage in the economy, a change in itself, or the underlyng causes of
productivity growth, but rather only a change in the perception of such.
Extreme changes in that perception (devoid of actual change in
fundamentals) are irrational exuberance and irrational pessimism.
Over night increases from ME, even if causality were established (a
huge and uncertain IF), then, at the extreme, large market short-term
(aja overnight) moves would be from ME increasing irrational
exuberance. Hardly a laudable claim.
5) On what theoretical basis could ME potentially enhance long run
market fundamentals (that is, productivity and its drivers -- see 3)
and market prices (which are based on expectations of sustained
earnings gains -- which are based on productivity gains and
enhancement of its drivers).
* Three main drivers of long run, sustained productivity (an thus
earnings and stock price) are:
a) infusions of technology via increased capital expenditures
(this can include human capital, training, education, health,etc)
b) increased innovation an creativity in individuals, and the
society as a whole
c) less resistance, removal of obstacles, direct stimulation
of a and b change the fundamentals of the market via increased
technology development and infusion.
It could be plausibly hypothesized that ME directly effects b)
increased innovation an creativity. And it might be plausible that it
changes the ether a postulated underlying field of large system /
global innovation by removing resistances and making this field more
super fluid -- thus quickening the realization, implementation,
adaptation and diffusion of b) above.
ME also might have some indirect influence on a) -- removal of
resistance to increased capital expenditures of human capital as
well as increasing efficiency of such factors (education and health).
And it might improve the savings rate, a major driver of a) as more
content individuals and society defer immediate
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I don’t feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most people’s eyes. He’s shot himself in the foot. It takes two to have a fight, and often only one to end it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I don't feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most people's eyes. Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes than calling someone White Trash for doing so. But if you feel better in denial that's your problem. You don't have any shreds of evidence for your dirty campaign, still you go on and on about it.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes than calling someone White Trash for doing so. But if you feel better in denial that's your problem. You don't have any shreds of evidence for your dirty campaign, still you go on and on about it. The only evidence I have is the personal testimony of the people who were directly involved, most of whom haven’t gone public for fear of taking the kind of flak TB’s would hurl at them. The only “evidence” to the contrary you have is your worldview, which doesn’t allow the possibility that such a thing could be true. I can understand that. Mine didn’t either for several decades, and I reacted to people who said otherwise pretty much as you are reacting. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] The Maharish Effect (1,717 in evening program)
When I taught 3% of the population of Napa, CA, crime didn't lessen. And Napa, CA is a peaceful, laid back, isolated from the world, valley community. Still, it did have a crime rate. The ME should have had it easy to show some strong affects there. Nope. And, then, the number of initiations petered out just like everywhere else after the Merv era passed. Even though, you know, I'm one hell of a lecturer -- a very accomplished public speaker -- college debate team and all that. The number of folks coming for checking was absolutely normal compared to other TM centers too, that is, almost no one showed up after the 10 day checking. So the ME didn't even show up as better experiences during meditation or more folks coming in for checking or word of mouth keeping a steady trickle of newbies coming to the introductory lectures. In fact, I saw NOTHING that I could call due to the ME. It may be true, the ME might work, but scientifically, it's pure oogabooga horse shitty guru-geek-azoid clap trap. But, wait, it was my fault right? I mean, even during the Merv era, we had Maharishi saying that the TMP was not being successful as it could be, because of lack of purity in the lives of the initiators. I think he had Jerry Jarvis tell us that delightful news. So, I apologize to everyone for fucking over the ME with my lifestyle in Napa -- not sure what I was doing wrongly, but since crime didn't come to a halt in Napa, I musta been a purdy bad boy. Let's see, ten years living in a bedroom upstairs in the center, forgoing having children for 11 years in my marriage, driving a $200 car, setting up lectures at mental hospitals for the staff, arranging for Dr. Gluck to lecture to 500 social workers, doing a lecture series at the Vacaville prison, putting up thousands of posters.h, no, probably that wasn't was stymied the ME in Napa. Oh, I know what it was! I had sex with my wife in the center There, that was probably it -- my impurity snuffed any chance Napa had for seeing the full sunshine of the age of enlightenment. Now, why is it that we are asked to believe that the ME is S COOL if a guy like me can stop it in its tracks with that devastating weapon of mass delight: orgasms? Just to be completely honest here, I have to admit, my orgasms are, indeed, powerful -- seismic even. Maybe I should run for president. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: mainstream20016 wrote: The SuperRadiance total yesterday evening in Fairfield was 1,717. It was only the third time this summer to reach 1700. The Dow is up 85 points this morning. Could the recent market correction be over ? Go Long and Strong in the markets, because the MUM student and faculty are returning, and 500 more Vedic Pandits are expected in the coming months. Go smoke another chillum full, 85 points is nothing. There is much more trouble ahead. We've been living too high on the hog for too long. TM TBs seem to equate a positive stock market with national enlightenment. A rising market is positive for stock owners for sure. But it's a more complex overall situation morally. More cancer and sickness due to lax envt regulation of carcinogins forcing people to go bankrupt paying for medical care is good for the stock market, wars and their no-bid contracts to war profiteers like Halliburton is good for the stock market, subsidies to big industrial farms using genetically engineered seeds and keeping small organic farms down is good for the stock market, being able to sell toxic products from china to american consumers is good for the stock market (getting caught is bad) -- all sorts of things that hurt individuals and small businesses but are good for large corporations are good for the stock market. Lots of people now own some stock in their 401Ks so a rising market helps their retirement portfolio no doubt, but I'm saying it's not a clear cut correlation between rising national consciousness and a rising stock market. And there are definitely times when a correction in the market is actually a healthy sign of common sense returning. A number of detractors of the theory of M.E. use the term 'Painting the Bull's Eye around the Arrow', to discredit the TM movement when the movement attempts to 'take credit' for whatever good news is produced during the period of a M.E. group meditation demonstration project. The detractors' criticism historically has been very effective at undermining the credibility of the TM movement, yet the TM movement since the beginning of the Invincible America Course has effectively taken bold steps to predict specific results to be expected, and has hit the targets. It is the detractors of the theory of
[FairfieldLife] How's Maharishi doing?
Last night I watched Maharishi and others doing a puja on the Maharishi Channel. http://www.maharishichannel.org/ An assistant handed him the puja utensils. I couldn't tell if that was because MMY is so frail or there was some other practical reason, such as the table being too crowded to have everything within reach. What's the scuttlebutt on Maharishi's health? It only occurred to me a few weeks ago that I'm not getting emails about his latest tirade or declaration. He seems to have retired. I have to admit to being morbidly fascinated at the prospect of Maharishi passing away. I feel as if I'm girding myself for the prospect. I never felt close to him, but he has been a gigantic influence on me. Let's just say his passing will denote the passing of my young adulthood way more than baldness has. That aside, it was a pretty ragged-sounding puja, if you ask me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,717 in evening program -End of the Markets' correction and Long Run ME
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You raise some interesting views which in turn raise some interesting
questions (a former boss once said, No that is is not an interesting
point ('objecively'). It is merely interesting to you).
And these points, below, don't contradict what you say, but perhaps
add some additional perspective.
1) Are there 'bad' things currently that influence earnings and stock
levels?
*Yes. Many of the things you cite, and more.
2) Are these factors the majority influence on earnings?
*No. The major driver of sustained earnings growth (the
anticipation of which drives subsequent stock prices) are:
increased productivity, yielding i) a lower cost of goods and
service, ii) increased wage levels, iii) more advanced products (52
HDTV vs 21 old color analog TV, at a lower cost, and with higher
waged consumers who can afford them)
Yes I agree -- though just to play devil's advocate again, I'd point
out that with regards to the SP500, which is the primary measure of
the stock market, you're talking about the earnings of large
corporations only. For example, here in ffld Walmart has forced the
closing of many locally owned small businesses. The pro vs con debate
on Walmart is too complex for me to tackle here, but one can argue
that what's been good for Walmart and therefore the SP500 for the
past few decades has had some negative economic impact as well on
small towns that is not captured by the stock market. Again I have
to agree with you here, but I just feel that the corporate earnings
and productivity gains of recent years have come with an especially
strong anti-consumer rights and anti-small business hit. I also feel
that the destruction of the manufacturing base in the US, though
justified from the logic of productivity, earnings and stock growth,
will in the long run be a negative for the country.
3) What influences long run sustained productivity (and thus earnings
and stock price growth)?
* a) infusions of technology via increased capital expenditures
(this can include human capital, training, education, health,etc)
b) increased innovation an creativity in individuals, and the
society as a whole
c) less resistance, removal of obstacles, direct stimulation
of a and b (change the fundamentals of the market via increased
technology development and infusion.)
Yes Yes Yes.
4) Are there overnight effects of ME on stock market and do they
mean much?
* perhaps there are such short-term effects, but ME causality has
not begun to be well established. And even if it were, short term
changes in the market are not driven from fundamentals (see 3), but
rather from changes in the expectation of earnings. That is,
short-term changes in the market are not reflecting a substantive
shnage in the economy, a change in itself, or the underlyng causes of
productivity growth, but rather only a change in the perception of such.
Extreme changes in that perception (devoid of actual change in
fundamentals) are irrational exuberance and irrational pessimism.
Over night increases from ME, even if causality were established (a
huge and uncertain IF), then, at the extreme, large market short-term
(aja overnight) moves would be from ME increasing irrational
exuberance. Hardly a laudable claim.
Though I don't see any basis yet for the ME on stock prices, it
actually makes more sense to me as something that might impact short
term market psychology rather than long term fundamentals.
5) On what theoretical basis could ME potentially enhance long run
market fundamentals (that is, productivity and its drivers -- see 3)
and market prices (which are based on expectations of sustained
earnings gains -- which are based on productivity gains and
enhancement of its drivers).
* Three main drivers of long run, sustained productivity (an thus
earnings and stock price) are:
a) infusions of technology via increased capital expenditures
(this can include human capital, training, education, health,etc)
b) increased innovation an creativity in individuals, and the
society as a whole
c) less resistance, removal of obstacles, direct stimulation
of a and b change the fundamentals of the market via increased
technology development and infusion.
It could be plausibly hypothesized that ME directly effects b)
increased innovation an creativity. And it might be plausible that it
changes the ether a postulated underlying field of large system /
global innovation by removing resistances and making this field more
super fluid -- thus quickening the realization, implementation,
adaptation and diffusion of b) above.
ME also might have some indirect influence on a) -- removal of
resistance to increased capital expenditures of human capital as
well as increasing efficiency of such factors (education and health).
And it might improve the
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes than calling someone White Trash for doing so. But if you feel better in denial that's your problem. You don't have any shreds of evidence for your dirty campaign, still you go on and on about it. The only evidence I have is the personal testimony of the people who were directly involved, most of whom haven't gone public for fear of taking the kind of flak TB's would hurl at them. The only evidence to the contrary you have is your worldview, which doesn't allow the possibility that such a thing could be true. Nonsense. I have said several times here that I would have no problem with that if it was true. None whatsoever because it has no influence on my view of the persons possibly involvement. How on earth would that possibly influence me or my Programme ? People do this and that, and why should't they. Whatever others are doing is certainly none of your or my business. If the only evidence you have is hearing someone saying something then I suggest you stop your silly campaign. You have made more than a fool of yourself already acting as a rumourspreader.
[FairfieldLife] Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
Is anyone on this forum qualified to explain the following in practical terms? 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Nonsense. I have said several times here that I would have no problem with that if it was true. None whatsoever because it has no influence on my view of the persons possibly involvement. How on earth would that possibly influence me or my Programme ? People do this and that, and why should't they. Whatever others are doing is certainly none of your or my business. If I understand what you’re saying, I pretty much agree with you. If these “rumors” are true, it has little or no bearing on the efficacy of TM. It does have bearing though, on MMY’s credibility. It caused me to begin taking everything he said with a much bigger grain of salt. It also raises interesting questions about ethics and higher states of consciousness (which MMY said were tightly correlated) and thus on many if not all of his philosophical/spiritual teachings. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: the topic of homosexuality comes up. They're just drawn to it, as if somewhere deep in their awareness, they innately *know* their male G spot is around back. Seriously, guys, if you want to have the most explosively mindblowing orgasms you've ever experienced, get one of these things: http://aneros.com/ Just occurred to me, perhapst being fond of prostatic stimulation is one of the reasons for male homosexuality. My gut feeling is a rather small percentage of male human beings like that kind of stimulation, or stuff. :o
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharish Effect (1,717 in evening program)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught 3% of the population of Napa, CA, crime didn't lessen. And Napa, CA is a peaceful, laid back, isolated from the world, valley community. Still, it did have a crime rate. The ME should have had it easy to show some strong affects there. Okay, funny story time. When I was in Wash, State for the Ideal Society Campaign (I think that was the name of it), we met with a reporter in our town and made the usual predictions. 1% will bring about reduction in a b c. The reporter said, What about the VD rate? We've been seeing a big increase in the VD rate I said, No problem, this will go done as well. Well, we did get 1%, and sure enough the VD rate showed a significant decline. I believe crime did as well, but the headline in the paper trumpeted the VD Rate Down We had been hoping for a crime reduction headline. Those were good times. We had a good group and some good nature support. Anybody know what happened to Ed Monk? He was a late addition to our group. The guy took constant notes. Whoever we met with or whatever we did, he always had his little spiral note book taking notes. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from India
Gurus do meet sometimes. My Guru explains one of the purposes of it in the most recent posts I made with the kalki disciple. Also the Kalki discilple mentions how her Guru extends an invitation to Gurus- that's post #147093 Post #147205 covers your understandings about gurus. Just recently, my Guru met Nityananda, then after that meeting, an open invitation was given. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Should it be that we are in the near and if Mother Meera is there at the time we are and if you have contact to Mother Meera, then I am requesting that you let Mother Meera know that a disciple of my Guru, Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri is interested to set up a meeting with Mother Meera. May I ask you to expound on what the *purpose* of such a meeting would be? I mean, it's a little strange. If you were asking because you want to meet her yourself, then you ask in your own name, with no refer- ence to who you might study with. That's irrelevant. If you're asking because you want to set up a meeting between your teacher and Mother Meera, that begs the question of *why* your teacher would want such a meeting. The first time I ever heard of her were her interactions with the Rasa Von Werder (Woman Thou Art God) woman, and I have to tell you that I came away from skimming that meeting thinking that both women were crazy as loons and that I wouldn't trust either of them with my *dog*, much less want to learn anything from them myself. This is actually a fairly serious question for you, Ron. If what you're really after is to have your guru meet Mother Meera, *what are your expectations* from such a meeting? Are you expecting some kind of pissing contest that your guru will win? Are you expecting Mother Meera to say something that you can then use to *promote* your guru and help her make more money (which you have said in the past is one of your goals)? Are you just interested in what they might have to say to each other? I'm asking because if you want her to meet Mother Meera based on some of the *other* meetings your guru has had with other teachers, you might want to rethink things a little. She doesn't come off very well when she gets in the same room with someone she sees as a com- petitor in the business. In my opinion, of course...your mileage may vary, and probably will, because you think she's kinda neat in the first place. All in all, I'm just asking because it's kind of a strange request, even stranger than some of your other evangelical activities here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Nonsense. I have said several times here that I would have no problem with that if it was true. None whatsoever because it has no influence on my view of the persons possibly involvement. How on earth would that possibly influence me or my Programme ? People do this and that, and why should't they. Whatever others are doing is certainly none of your or my business. If I understand what you're saying, I pretty much agree with you. If these rumors are true, it has little or no bearing on the efficacy of TM. It does have bearing though, on MMY's credibility. It caused me to begin taking everything he said with a much bigger grain of salt. It also raises interesting questions about ethics and higher states of consciousness (which MMY said were tightly correlated) and thus on many if not all of his philosophical/spiritual teachings. No. Your reaction to simple human activity raises serious questions about your moralism. Typical really. Your President could not even fool around with a cigar without the americans going bananas making their country the laughingstock of the whole world. Nobody cared, only the americans. A famous singer shows a nipple and creates an outrage. The frontpage of a mothers-journal shows a lady nurse a toddler and the magazine almost goes out of business. In France the President had two families and a daughter with the lady he was not married to, and no one cared even though everyone knew. The americans are fundamentally and perversely obsessed with sex. With your obsession about this theme you proove that I am correct.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I don't feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most people's eyes. Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes I totally agree, such things are much worse, and the lowest of the low. OffWorld But if you feel better in denial that's your problem. You don't have any shreds of evidence for your dirty campaign, still you go on and on about it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I don't feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most people's eyes. He's shot himself in the foot. It takes two to have a fight, and often only one to end it. If a dog shits on your lawn you give it the boot. OffWorld No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing?
It don't matter. All that matters are the techniques and the research, the latter of which is continuing to gain in the 21st century. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I watched Maharishi and others doing a puja on the Maharishi Channel. http://www.maharishichannel.org/ An assistant handed him the puja utensils. I couldn't tell if that was because MMY is so frail or there was some other practical reason, such as the table being too crowded to have everything within reach. What's the scuttlebutt on Maharishi's health? It only occurred to me a few weeks ago that I'm not getting emails about his latest tirade or declaration. He seems to have retired. I have to admit to being morbidly fascinated at the prospect of Maharishi passing away. I feel as if I'm girding myself for the prospect. I never felt close to him, but he has been a gigantic influence on me. Let's just say his passing will denote the passing of my young adulthood way more than baldness has. That aside, it was a pretty ragged-sounding puja, if you ask me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: the topic of homosexuality comes up. They're just drawn to it, as if somewhere deep in their awareness, they innately *know* their male G spot is around back. Seriously, guys, if you want to have the most explosively mindblowing orgasms you've ever experienced, get one of these things: http://aneros.com/ Just occurred to me, perhapst being fond of prostatic stimulation is one of the reasons for male homosexuality. My gut feeling is a rather small percentage of male human beings like that kind of stimulation, or stuff. :o My feeling is that dislike for that kind of stimulation is largely the result of conditioning to feel shame and aversion about that part of the body.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), That would be the path of the Devas/Gods/Angels/Shining Ones or the *dynamism* MMY talks about, conditioned..by space and time. beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; The 'unconditioned' Brahman is the *Silence* part of the two fold transcendental absolute, Cosmic Consciousness or Nirvikalpa Samadhi. the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. That is the heaven world where one is rewarded for good karma, but not freedom for Samsara, (the wheel of rebirth). There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Of little consequence Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The Northern road is the upward path of the prana leading to the 7th chakra or spiritual illumination and freedom from rebirth. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; Up the spine to the brain. the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Back to rebirth due to unworked out karma. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. One is temporary enlightenment (return to rebirth) and one is permanent (no return). The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. Until they take the Northern path http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm The northern and southern paths are symbolic of the two directions of the kundalini shakti, Northern going up towards Cosmic Consciousness or the brain and Southern coming downwards towards the body or reincarnation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Nonsense. I have said several times here that I would have no problem with that if it was true. None whatsoever because it has no influence on my view of the persons possibly involvement. How on earth would that possibly influence me or my Programme ? People do this and that, and why should't they. Whatever others are doing is certainly none of your or my business. If I understand what you're saying, I pretty much agree with you. If these rumors are true, it has little or no bearing on the efficacy of TM. It does have bearing though, on MMY's credibility. Maharishi's credibility is of no importance (though your rumormongering is the action of a non-yogi. Which is a paradox, because I do not see you as a non-yogi. So it must be like the story of the man who picketed outside Guru Dev's Ashram, saying all sorts of bad things about Guru Dev, until finally the man got enlightened because his attention was on the Guru so much) All that matters are the techniques and the research, the latter of which is gaining momentum in the 21st century. OffWorld It caused me to begin taking everything he said with a much bigger grain of salt. It also raises interesting questions about ethics and higher states of consciousness (which MMY said were tightly correlated) and thus on many if not all of his philosophical/spiritual teachings. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes I totally agree, such things are much worse, and the lowest of the low. I agree too, and wouldn’t mention such things if I thought they were mere rumors and/or didn’t have some larger significance. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: the topic of homosexuality comes up. They're just drawn to it, as if somewhere deep in their awareness, they innately *know* their male G spot is around back. Seriously, guys, if you want to have the most explosively mindblowing orgasms you've ever experienced, get one of these things: http://aneros.com/ Just occurred to me, perhapst being fond of prostatic stimulation is one of the reasons for male homosexuality. My gut feeling is a rather small percentage of male human beings like that kind of stimulation, or stuff. :o Some women like it too, but it is totally gross to me. Each to their own though. Therefore vote Ron Paul. OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:37 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI No. Your reaction to simple human activity raises serious questions about your moralism. Typical really. Your President could not even fool around with a cigar without the americans going bananas making their country the laughingstock of the whole world. Nobody cared, only the americans. A famous singer shows a nipple and creates an outrage. The frontpage of a mothers-journal shows a lady nurse a toddler and the magazine almost goes out of business. In France the President had two families and a daughter with the lady he was not married to, and no one cared even though everyone knew. The americans are fundamentally and perversely obsessed with sex. With your obsession about this theme you proove that I am correct. So the conversation has shifted from whether the allegations are true to Americans being morally narrow-minded. I still say that if you’re going to hold someone up as a saint whose word is infallible and divinely inspired, then this issue has significant implications. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] OffWorld is over the Limit
OffWorld is over the posting Limit. Therefore I am blocking him for a week. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still say that if you're going to hold someone up as a saint whose word is infallible and divinely inspired, then this issue has significant implications. Yes, but only in your perverse mind.
RE: [FairfieldLife] OffWorld is over the Limit
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] OffWorld is over the Limit OffWorld is over the posting Limit. Therefore I am blocking him for a week. OffWorld Just blocking him ‘till Friday midnight would suffice. Thanks. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI Lying and rumorspreading is probably worse in most peoples eyes I totally agree, such things are much worse, and the lowest of the low. I agree too, and wouldn't mention such things if I thought they were mere rumors and/or didn't have some larger significance. So Where is the Beef ? Rumours, tons of it, year after year. That is the only substance Rick Archer is able to come up with.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still say that if you're going to hold someone up as a saint whose word is infallible and divinely inspired, then this issue has significant implications. Yes, but only in your perverse mind. So then in your non-perverse mind someone can be a saint whose word is infallible, including his proclaiming to be a life celibate, yet whose private life belies that assertion. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I still say that if you're going to hold someone up as a saint whose word is infallible and divinely inspired, then this issue has significant implications. Yes, but only for your perverse mind. (I'm starting to dislike prepositions as intensely as rumourmongers... ;-) )
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I still say that if you're going to hold someone up as a saint whose word is infallible and divinely inspired, then this issue has significant implications. Yes, but only in your perverse mind. So then in your non-perverse mind someone can be a saint whose word is infallible, including his proclaiming to be a life celibate, Life celibate until say, 1963 or something ? Heard any claims about lifecelibacy after round about that ? Only thing I heard him say that remotely touches this area is I'm a normal human being During the last 30 years or so I have known him he has not made any claims in any direction of celibacy or otherwise. And why should he. But ofcourse, Rick Archer who loves, actually must have a overwhelming desire for knowing all details about the private life of others surely has different information. Must have.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:58 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: During the last 30 years or so I have known him he has not made any claims in any direction of celibacy or otherwise. And why should he. I believe he claimed to be a monk just a couple of years ago on his interview with Larry King when Larry asked him if he had a family.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:58 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: During the last 30 years or so I have known him he has not made any claims in any direction of celibacy or otherwise. And why should he. I believe he claimed to be a monk just a couple of years ago on his interview with Larry King when Larry asked him if he had a family. http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/Documents/larry-king-full.htm KING: In our remaining moments with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, let's talk about yourself. Do you have a family? MAHARISHI: The world is my family, you know? I count them ... KING: You have no children of your own? MAHARISHI: That is what a family means - all the children of the world. KING: I know, but I'm just asking if you have children from your loins. MAHARISHI: I am a single person. I'm a Purusha. I'm a - what you call it - sanyasi, if you understand the word. I'm a monk, if you understand it... KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks.
[FairfieldLife] Women dig lång?
http://www.investopedia.com/university/shortselling/shortselling1.asp Short Selling: What Is Short Selling? The Basics When an investor goes long on an investment, it means she has bought a stock believing its price will rise in the future. Conversely, when an investor goes short, he is anticipating a decrease in share price.
[FairfieldLife] Out-of-body experience recreated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6960612.stm Experts have found a way to trigger an out-of-body experience in volunteers. The experiments, described in the Science journal, offer a scientific explanation for a phenomenon experienced by one in 10 people. Two teams used virtual reality goggles to con the brain into thinking the body was located elsewhere. The visual illusion plus the feel of their real bodies being touched made volunteers sense that they had moved outside of their physical bodies. The researchers say their findings could have practical applications, such as helping take video games to the next level of virtuality so the players feel as if they are actually inside the game. Clinically, surgeons might also be able to perform operations on patients thousands of miles away by controlling a robotic virtual self. Teleported For some, out-of-body experiences or OBEs occurs spontaneously, while for others it is linked to dangerous circumstances, a near-death experience, a dream-like state or use of alcohol or drugs. One theory is that it is down to how people perceive their own body - those unhappy or less in touch with their body are more likely to have an OBE. But the two teams, from UCL and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne, believe there is a neurological explanation. We feel that our self is located where the eyes are UCL researcher Dr Henrik Ehrsson Their work suggests a disconnection between the brain circuits that process visual and touch sensory information may thus be responsible for some OBEs. In the Swiss experiments, the researchers asked volunteers to stand in front of a camera while wearing video-display goggles. Through these goggles, the volunteer could see a camera view of their own back - a three-dimensional virtual own body that appeared to be standing in front of them. When the researchers stroked the back of the volunteer with a pen, the volunteer could see their virtual back being stroked either simultaneously or with a time lag. The volunteers reported that the sensation seemed to be caused by the pen on their virtual back, rather than their real back, making them feel as if the virtual body was their own rather than a hologram. Volunteers Even when the camera was switched to film the back of a mannequin being stroked rather than their own back, the volunteers still reported feeling as if the virtual mannequin body was their own. And when the researchers switched off the goggles, guided the volunteers back a few paces, and then asked them to walk back to where they had been standing, the volunteers overshot the target, returning nearer to the position of their virtual self. Dr Henrik Ehrsson, who led the UCL research, used a similar set up in his tests and found volunteers had a physiological response - increased skin sweating - when they felt their virtual self was being threatened - appearing to be hit with a hammer. Dr Ehrsson said: This experiment suggests that the first-person visual perspective is critically important for the in-body experience. In other words, we feel that our self is located where the eyes are. Dr Susan Blackmore, psychologist and visiting lecturer at the University of the West of England, said: This has at last brought OBEs into the lab and tested one of the main theories of how they occur. Scientists have long suspected that the clue to these extraordinary, and sometimes life-changing, experiences lies in disrupting our normal illusion of being a self behind our eyes, and replacing it with a new viewpoint from above or behind. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/6960612.stm Published: 2007/08/23 18:02:22 GMT © BBC MMVII
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 200 Posts
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: snip Marek's recent question, and brilliant and insightful and respectful posts every so often from others here that are just brimful of light and the joy of living -- *however* one has chosen to live, and along *what- ever* path -- still make this forum worth skimming through to find them. But man! it's taking a lot of skimming these days *to* find them. Of course I answered to Marek's post in like kind to Alex's fun nerdish answer (about people who don't use Bcc) with a similar rant on thread hijacking on FFL. :) Which is cool, and of interest who read discussion boards threaded. I can imagine that Yahoo's weird take on threads and people's unfamiliarity with how to work with them can be quite confusing if you are actually trying to follow a thread here. I gave up on it years ago. I like to fol- low discussions in real time, as people post, in the order they post, and do the threading in my head. It's more fun for me that way because the board becomes one big thread. The folks who will most notice the hijacking are those of us who use email. But even on the web site you can set it to threaded and I believe it keeps your settings for the next session. On email I will have collapsed threads so when someone does the out-of-thread reply you start to wonder where this thie RE: came from as you never saw that topic as it was buried in a topic that I wasn't interested in so never expanded the thread. Of course this thread was hijacked by Kirk as its original intent was to needle Shemp on his financial advisory biz which is probably in the toilet these days and why he spends so much time here. :) I'm on a lot of groups and this one is by far the worst at thread hijacking. I chalked it up to computer illiteracy of new agers which is quite common in those groups. My serious answer would have been to deprogram people of the matrix they are stuck in. IOW, every preconceived notion, belief or psychological construct they've ever had. Show them how by and large morals were invented by kings to keep their subjects under control. Leave them crying I know have nothing to cling to! That's the idea, get rid of the teddy bears and grow up. It is the first step to moksha. All those concepts and notions are just excess baggage. While I don't disagree, the question of How? does arise. I'm not convinced that a conscious, intel- lectual approach can ever do this. One tends to just replace the old constructs with new constructs. God has a plan for all of This becomes There is no plan, just interactions. As concepts go, the latter is no less binding and no more accurate from all POVs than the former IMO. So for me it's not coming to an intellectual understanding that my beliefs are constructs, but coming to feel or know on a this-is-really- how-it-all-seems-to-work-at-every-moment prag- matic level. And for me the only thing that has ever done that is to be blown out of my socks by shakti or an intense meditation experience. The exper- ience came *first*, and the constructs fell away on their own. They couldn't stand the heat. I don't know how one would approach the dissolution of one's constructs the other way around. I think you can point out to people the con job that's been done on the public down through time. It's more like planting a seed and gives them something to think about even if it just bounces around their subconscious for awhile and surfaces only when some article or conversation brings it up again. I suspect you read The Master Game back in the 1960s? It was quite popular back then and when I first came to these concepts though I was a bit of a fan of existentialism, Sartre, etc. even in high school. Sure mantra meditation will start getting rid of these cons slowly over time or fast if you go the Kali route under a guru's guidance (or you really can lose your head). My experience with that as I have mentioned before is like reality as layers of an onion being peeled away often leaving you chuckling at the result. :) It was nice to cocoon in beliefs but that won't work anymore. On the ego thread I never jumped in on my experience is that I don't exist. That is until someone needs me to exist. The bill collector, a customer, a relative, a list member, my body, etc. needs me to exist. So you've got a Schroedinger's Cat kinda ego. Until someone looks in the box, it is neither alive nor dead, but both, in a virtual state. :-) It's more like at times during the day you realize you've been going through the day with no identity to the small self. Just joking, because I kinda identify. I like to think of them as egos, plural. Multiple selves, playing upon the surface of Self. This is probably what confuses folks
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing?
--- off_world_beings wrote: It don't matter. All that matters are the techniques and the research, the latter of which is continuing to gain in the 21st century. My post has more to do with my own feelings, rather than some concern for MMY's legacy. And for that matter, I've given up on the techniques, and I had the impression that only a few people are doing any research. (By a few poeple, I mean Fred Travis and the possibility of one or two others I don't know about.) If you'd like to cite some good studies, I'd be happy to learn about them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 1,717 in evening program -End of the Markets' correction ?
boo_lives wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mainstream20016 wrote: The SuperRadiance total yesterday evening in Fairfield was 1,717. It was only the third time this summer to reach 1700. The Dow is up 85 points this morning. Could the recent market correction be over ? Go Long and Strong in the markets, because the MUM student and faculty are returning, and 500 more Vedic Pandits are expected in the coming months. Go smoke another chillum full, 85 points is nothing. There is much more trouble ahead. We've been living too high on the hog for too long. TM TBs seem to equate a positive stock market with national enlightenment. A rising market is positive for stock owners for sure. But it's a more complex overall situation morally. More cancer and sickness due to lax envt regulation of carcinogins forcing people to go bankrupt paying for medical care is good for the stock market, wars and their no-bid contracts to war profiteers like Halliburton is good for the stock market, subsidies to big industrial farms using genetically engineered seeds and keeping small organic farms down is good for the stock market, being able to sell toxic products from china to american consumers is good for the stock market (getting caught is bad) -- all sorts of things that hurt individuals and small businesses but are good for large corporations are good for the stock market. Lots of people now own some stock in their 401Ks so a rising market helps their retirement portfolio no doubt, but I'm saying it's not a clear cut correlation between rising national consciousness and a rising stock market. And there are definitely times when a correction in the market is actually a healthy sign of common sense returning. The ME probably does some good for Fairfield but I'm not even sure if they practiced in a building on Wall Street they would really effect the market that much. A good effect might even be it's crash i.e. market correction. After all the US economy is really one big maya. If there were any credibility to the ME then Kumba Melas would produce profound results but we don't see that when they happen. Billions were put into the economy last week to prop it up. The calming is a result of that. I follow economics a bit and watched Helicopter Ben Bernanke nervously respond to questioning in front of a Senate Committee on C-SPAN. Why was he nervous? He was lying through his teeth and I knew it. And printing more money can lead to hyper-inflation like the Wiemar Republic in the 1930s. And don't forget that the dollar has been declining in value and it takes more in stock value to make up for the decline. That's why the market went over 14,000 at one point. We see the CEO of Countrywide saying today that the subprime debacle may cause a recession. He would probably like to say depression as I'm sure he thinks that is what it will really happen but if he did he would cause a panic. As for 401K and IRAs I've been rebalancing mine and moving into cash (if even that will do any good). I like to point out that during the banking crisis in Argentina in 2000-2001 many people lost their 401K's and IRAs and they were confiscated. This is a little reported crisis but there have been some excellent documentaries on it. It was the IMF that precipitated it and the IMF has been warning the US for the last two years that it could happen here. So a lot of those monster homes that people bought over the last 10 years will probably turn into boarding houses and where they can into apartment complexes if the owners want to hold on to them. That's what happened in the Great Depression. Be wary of stockbrokers too. Most of them have one job: to sell you stocks. They lie through their teeth to get those sales.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello from India
t3rinity wrote: Just wanted to send you a hello from here. I am now since about one week in Madanapalle, with a small group of people. We have a nice time, its not too hot, as Madanapalle is higher, I just bought a cycle. We were also one day in Tiruvannamalai, and stayed in one of the oldest Ashrams there. I know you've traveled much to India over the years. Do you see much change to the country over the last ten years, especially with the economy? I know they are having a tech boom but like the US that doesn't get everywhere. But I did read an article in the local Indian magazine by some Indians who returned and thought they were going waltz right in an pick up a nice house in a great neighbor cheap and live like kings. But they found that was no longer possible.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings wrote: It don't matter. All that matters are the techniques and the research, the latter of which is continuing to gain in the 21st century. My post has more to do with my own feelings, rather than some concern for MMY's legacy. And for that matter, I've given up on the techniques, and I had the impression that only a few people are doing any research. (By a few poeple, I mean Fred Travis and the possibility of one or two others I don't know about.) If you'd like to cite some good studies, I'd be happy to learn about them. I can't, OffWorld has blocked me for a week because of over-posting. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Work deadline over, St. Emilion in hand, and Gram on the box...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Emmylou Harris speaks of Gram Parsons - http://tinyurl.com/2dnujv Nice. Thanks. You're welcome. Thank you for the 'concert' set list. It seems Gram Parsons sought a perpetual high, either from on-stage performance, or off- stage indulgence in mind-altering substances, legal and illegal. He died at the young age of 27, from a poorly managed drug overdose in September, '73, but probably had visits from the grim reaper a number of times before then. I've always loved Emmylou Harris' performances, and it appears that she helped him and his band to keep it together on the road, to the extent possible.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing? I can't, OffWorld has blocked me for a week because of over-posting. OffWorld That’s 37. Please don’t post anymore until after Friday night, or you’ll suffer Shemp’s fate. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Economy, Markets,
Bhairitu wrote: Billions were put into the economy last week to prop it up. The calming is a result of that. I follow economics a bit and watched Helicopter Ben Bernanke nervously respond to questioning in front of a Senate Committee on C-SPAN. Why was he nervous? He was lying through his teeth and I knew it. What did he say that was false? Usually, hearings on the Hill involving Federal Reserve personnel take the Fed to task for a too constrictive money supply position, which slows the economy and makes the natives angrier with Congress when the economy tanks. And printing more money can lead to hyper-inflation like the Wiemar Republic in the 1930s. And don't forget that the dollar has been declining in value and it takes more in stock value to make up for the decline. That's why the market went over 14,000 at one point. The 1980s were a period of inflation-killing Fed policies that used restrictive money supply strategies that led to a deep recession. I don't think the public will now is to prevent inflation. The public wants the 'party' to continue, and the Fed will continue to placate that desire, following its 50 basis point cut in the discount rate last week. We see the CEO of Countrywide saying today that the subprime debacle may cause a recession. He would probably like to say depression as I'm sure he thinks that is what it will really happen but if he did he would cause a panic. As for mortgage lenders, they are experiencing a depression. When the Fed discount rate (the rate it leant money to banks ) was lower than 2%, it was a no brainer to borrow from the Fed, and lend to the public. At the time, mortgages were considered a safe investment, with low default rates for individual mortgage holders. With all the loose lending, the mortgages were bundled, mixing good with bad, and leveraged through investment vehicles like hedge funds, and sold worldwide. It was only 2005 that lenders were widely advertising loans for 125% of the purchase price of a home. Other quirky lending practices : No Documentation Loans (loans for liars). As for 401K and IRAs I've been rebalancing mine and moving into cash (if even that will do any good). I like to point out that during the banking crisis in Argentina in 2000-2001 many people lost their 401K's and IRAs and they were confiscated. This is a little reported crisis but there have been some excellent documentaries on it. It was the IMF that precipitated it and the IMF has been warning the US for the last two years that it could happen here. If you were to invest your cash position, in which vehicles would you place it ? So a lot of those monster homes that people bought over the last 10 years will probably turn into boarding houses and where they can into apartment complexes if the owners want to hold on to them. That's what happened in the Great Depression. A thought keeps reminding me of an old maxim: It's best to spend less than you have coming in, anticipate unpleasant events, and act accordingly. Be wary of stockbrokers too. Most of them have one job: to sell you
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:58 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: During the last 30 years or so I have known him he has not made any claims in any direction of celibacy or otherwise. And why should he. I believe he claimed to be a monk just a couple of years ago on his interview with Larry King when Larry asked him if he had a family. http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/Documents/larry-king-full.htm KING: In our remaining moments with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, let's talk about yourself. Do you have a family? MAHARISHI: The world is my family, you know? I count them ... KING: You have no children of your own? MAHARISHI: That is what a family means - all the children of the world. KING: I know, but I'm just asking if you have children from your loins. MAHARISHI: I am a single person. I'm a Purusha. I'm a - what you call it - sanyasi, if you understand the word. I'm a monk, if you understand it... KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. So a couple of years ago, your claim is that he isn't ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 1:58 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: During the last 30 years or so I have known him he has not made any claims in any direction of celibacy or otherwise. And why should he. I believe he claimed to be a monk just a couple of years ago on his interview with Larry King when Larry asked him if he had a family. http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/Documents/larry-king-full.htm KING: In our remaining moments with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, let's talk about yourself. Do you have a family? MAHARISHI: The world is my family, you know? I count them ... KING: You have no children of your own? MAHARISHI: That is what a family means - all the children of the world. KING: I know, but I'm just asking if you have children from your loins. MAHARISHI: I am a single person. I'm a Purusha. I'm a - what you call it - sanyasi, if you understand the word. I'm a monk, if you understand it... KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. So a couple of years ago, your claim is that he wasn't ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone on this forum qualified to explain the following in practical terms? 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm Additionally, the 6 months when the sun moves North refers to the 6 chakras (even MMY mentioned this significant number in his talk on the chakras. The Sun generally refers to Spirit or the absolute (7th) and the Moon (1-6) to the reflected image or the soul. The 'smoke' and 'night' refers to man's identification with the lower material worlds and the 'light' or 'day' to his identification with Spirit. The moon has a 14 day waxing and a 14 day waning period naturally, hence the beautiful analogy confirming the proclamation, As above, so below the Macrocosm and the Microcosm. Thanks for sharing this beautiful Upanishad. You'll find a similar verse in the Bhagavad Gita CH8 vs23-26.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra
possesses,
and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads
after
death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern
and
northern roads. These roads are fully described in the
Khândogya-upanishad
chAndogya n. ` doctrine of the Chando-gas ' , a Bra1hman2a of the
SV. (including the ChUp.)
(chaandogya [is] a braahmaNa of the saama-veda, including the
Chaandogya-upaniSat)
chandoga [chandaH + ga] m. (%{gai}) ` singer in metre ' , chanter
of the saama-veda; Udgaatri priest
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do people think that reading a book is special?
Bhairitu wrote: Yes, I read less books than I did 30 years ago So, the only book that you've read in the last 30 years is TV Guide, but you spent $10,000 on your TV set.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal
So, Rick, which Beatle said he left Rishikesh TTC because the Marshy was having sex with female students? Rick Archer wrote: John and George. Paul and Ringo had already left. But George said it was just a rumor and John was a documented liar. According to George, the rumor about the Maharishi trying to seduce anyone at Rishikesh was a lie. And, which personal secretary left because Marshy was having sex with female students? Conny Larsson (who may be joining FFL soon), Billy Clayton, Rob McCutcheon, Ned Wynne, and others. None of these individuals were personal secretaries, least of all Conny Larsson and Ned Wynn. From what I've read, Ned Wynn once spent about five minutes alone with the Marshy and once carried Marshy's skin for about one minute. Others left for other reasons, but knew about the situation. So not a single person can say that they actually saw the Marshy having sex, in over thirty years, even though they were just outside the Marshy's door for days, hours, months, and years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
devapatha
m. ` gods'path ' , heaven ChUp. MBh. ; the Milky Way L. ; N. of
place of pilgrimage (cf. Pa1n2. 5-3 , 100) MBh. iii , 8187 (also %{-
tIrtha} n. S3ivaP.) ; %{-thIya} mfn. being on the celestial path
Ka1t2h. ; relating to or coming from Deva-patha (above) MW.
uttarA [paTha]
ind. north , northerly ; northward (with gen. or abl.) Pa1n2. Vop. ;
(%{uttarA-patha} , c. see p. 178 , col. 3.)
dakSiNApaTha
m. path of the Dakshin2a1 cow , (between the S3a1la1 and the Sadas)
S3a1n3khS3r. As3vS3r. Ka1tyS3r. La1t2y. ; (%{-Na-saMcara} Vait.) the
southern region , Deccan MBh. Hariv. 5289 VarBr2S. Sus3r. BhP.
Katha1s. Vet.: Hit. ; see %{-NA7bdhi}.
To me this is blatantly giving a coded yogic instruction in the
karmic channels and the end separation of lunar and solar potencies
of soma and agni where karmic-consciousness transforms into jnanic-
consciousness. It is the fast road to Brahman. The world of the
father is most likely referring to pitr-loka, world of the ancestors,
referred to in Brihadaranyaka 6..2.16 which describes the sacrifice
of soma in the yogin which is offered up to the gods. One path leads
to worldly existence and another to a heaven-dimension. In the
Chandogya and Brihadaranyaka it refers to the technique of the
sacrifice, the creation of man in five stages and the path of the
gods. These northern and southerly courses have direct correspondence
to yogic-anatomy and the Sanskrit alphabet. Initiates of the inner
tantra will be familiar with them. It's also interesting because the
symbolism of the funeral pyre and death/transformation.
You take the low road
and I'll take the high road
and I'll be to Brahman before ye! ;-)
On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:43 AM, do.rflex wrote:
Is anyone on this forum qualified to explain the following in
practical terms?
271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the
Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), beyond
which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and
identity with the unconditioned Brahman;
the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after
the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of
mundane existence.
There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms,
insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence.
Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses,
and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after
death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and
northern roads. These roads are fully described in the
Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain
variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose.
The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes
on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; the southern or
right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke
and night to the dark half of the moon.
Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While
the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards
the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of
Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves
towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the
moon.
The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while
those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on
earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned
Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon
return to earth to be born again and again.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Rick, which Beatle said he left Rishikesh TTC because the Marshy was having sex with female students? Rick Archer wrote: John and George. Paul and Ringo had already left. But George said it was just a rumor and John was a documented liar. According to George, the rumor about the Maharishi trying to seduce anyone at Rishikesh was a lie. And, which personal secretary left because Marshy was having sex with female students? Conny Larsson (who may be joining FFL soon), Billy Clayton, Rob McCutcheon, Ned Wynne, and others. None of these individuals were personal secretaries, least of all Conny Larsson and Ned Wynn. From what I've read, Ned Wynn once spent about five minutes alone with the Marshy and once carried Marshy's skin for about one minute. Others left for other reasons, but knew about the situation. So not a single person can say that they actually saw the Marshy having sex, in over thirty years, even though they were just outside the Marshy's door for days, hours, months, and years. Ofcourse not. But don't tell Rick Archer. His whole plot would collapse. He would have to create more rumours, because without rumours what would he do ? Moderate FFL ? Rather boring in the long run I would think.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
After calling me a moron, You have a fair mind, Rick. This is what I wrote. You can draw your own conclusions. The replys are to off_world. First post: I had never heard of Ron Paul before I read about him in FFL. I have not heard about him outside of FFL since then. I have to ask how people outside of Iowa even know who he is, if the news does not cover him. Perhaps fewer than are in the domes these days. Second post: Its been like this for months. Ron Paul is ALL OVER YOUTUBE. Oh, that's the reason I haven't heard of him. I don't get my news off of youtube. Third post: So you think YouTube is insignificant Gullible Fool? I just said I don't get my news off of it. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I dont feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most peoples eyes. Hes shot himself in the foot. It takes two to have a fight, and often only one to end it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How's Maharishi doing?
In a message dated 8/23/07 10:23:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the scuttlebutt on Maharishi's health? Oh, he says he's just fine and thanks you for asking. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal
nablusoss wrote: But don't tell Rick Archer. His whole plot would collapse. John Lennon wanted to desert his wife and son and go to New York to shack up with Yoko, in order to get some sex and drugs. Unfortunately, he was not allowed inside the U.S. because he was a known fornicator and drug addict, so he went to Toronto instead, where he and Yoko dresssed up like Hindoo Fakirs' in white bedsheets, attempting to ape the Maharsihi, sat in bed smoking cigarettes, doing drugs, and eating takeout. Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: willytex Date: 21 Mar 2006 Subject: And So We All Shine On http://tinyurl.com/23z8vo
[FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How's Maharishi doing? I can't, OffWorld has blocked me for a week because of over- posting. OffWorld That's 37. Please don't post anymore until after Friday night, or you'll suffer Shemp's fate DO IT. PLEASE ! OffWorld is a wreckless postin' fool ! Off_World
[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), That would be the path of the Devas/Gods/Angels/Shining Ones or the *dynamism* MMY talks about, conditioned..by space and time. beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; The 'unconditioned' Brahman is the *Silence* part of the two fold transcendental absolute, Cosmic Consciousness or Nirvikalpa Samadhi. the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. That is the heaven world where one is rewarded for good karma, but not freedom for Samsara, (the wheel of rebirth). There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Of little consequence Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The Northern road is the upward path of the prana leading to the 7th chakra or spiritual illumination and freedom from rebirth. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; Up the spine to the brain. the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Back to rebirth due to unworked out karma. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. One is temporary enlightenment (return to rebirth) and one is permanent (no return). The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. Until they take the Northern path http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm The northern and southern paths are symbolic of the two directions of the kundalini shakti, Northern going up towards Cosmic Consciousness or the brain and Southern coming downwards towards the body or reincarnation. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The americans are fundamentally and perversely obsessed with sex. Have you experienced that your ability to over generalize has been enhanced with many years of TM?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
Oh Vaj, yer such a piece o'blarney.
Lurv,
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
devapatha
m. ` gods'path ' , heaven ChUp. MBh. ; the Milky Way L. ; N. of
place of pilgrimage (cf. Pa1n2. 5-3 , 100) MBh. iii , 8187 (also %{-
tIrtha} n. S3ivaP.) ; %{-thIya} mfn. being on the celestial path
Ka1t2h. ; relating to or coming from Deva-patha (above) MW.
uttarA [paTha]
ind. north , northerly ; northward (with gen. or abl.) Pa1n2. Vop. ;
(%{uttarA-patha} , c. see p. 178 , col. 3.)
dakSiNApaTha
m. path of the Dakshin2a1 cow , (between the S3a1la1 and the Sadas)
S3a1n3khS3r. As3vS3r. Ka1tyS3r. La1t2y. ; (%{-Na-saMcara} Vait.) the
southern region , Deccan MBh. Hariv. 5289 VarBr2S. Sus3r. BhP.
Katha1s. Vet.: Hit. ; see %{-NA7bdhi}.
To me this is blatantly giving a coded yogic instruction in the
karmic channels and the end separation of lunar and solar potencies
of soma and agni where karmic-consciousness transforms into jnanic-
consciousness. It is the fast road to Brahman. The world of the
father is most likely referring to pitr-loka, world of the ancestors,
referred to in Brihadaranyaka 6..2.16 which describes the sacrifice
of soma in the yogin which is offered up to the gods. One path leads
to worldly existence and another to a heaven-dimension. In the
Chandogya and Brihadaranyaka it refers to the technique of the
sacrifice, the creation of man in five stages and the path of the
gods. These northern and southerly courses have direct correspondence
to yogic-anatomy and the Sanskrit alphabet. Initiates of the inner
tantra will be familiar with them. It's also interesting because the
symbolism of the funeral pyre and death/transformation.
You take the low road
and I'll take the high road
and I'll be to Brahman before ye! ;-)
On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:43 AM, do.rflex wrote:
Is anyone on this forum qualified to explain the following in
practical terms?
271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the
Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), beyond
which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and
identity with the unconditioned Brahman;
the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after
the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of
mundane existence.
There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms,
insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence.
Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses,
and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after
death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and
northern roads. These roads are fully described in the
Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain
variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose.
The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes
on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; the southern or
right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke
and night to the dark half of the moon.
Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While
the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards
the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of
Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves
towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the
moon.
The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while
those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on
earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned
Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon
return to earth to be born again and again.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm
[FairfieldLife] Hypothesis of Higher SoC Improving Ethics, Behavior, Mental Clarity, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It also raises interesting questions about ethics and higher states of consciousness (which MMY said were tightly correlated) and thus on many if not all of his philosophical/spiritual teachings. I have recently pondered this and related things: a) MMY said higher aka altered SoC an improved ethics, skill in action, mental clarity, compassion and social graces, are tightly correlated. b) MMY has said Gita etc has said that there are no outwards signs of H/A Soc. a and b, while not necessarily contradictory in all combinations and all manifest permutations, its still pretty contradictory (many more contradictions than not, IMO). Further, c) some aspects of behavior, fundamental abilities, etc seem to be clearly sub normal for some of those presumed to be enlightened (by many) -- MMY, Muktanamda, Sri Chimoy, etc. As well, i not more so, for some of those who presume they themselves are experiencing a H/A Soc. As Turq said, and I have echoed in various ways, paraphrasing (a bit more dramatically, perhaps), if this is E, who on earth (or heaven) would possibly want it / I hope I am never cursed with that affliction. d) Many aspects of behavior, fundamental abilities, etc seem to be clearly sub sub normal after 20-30 years, of practicing of TM and or other spiritual disciplines -- including many intensives and retreats. c and d clearly contradict a. e) MMY / TMO have emphasized capture the fort / principle of highest first and then the rest, for example, a, will take care of itself. Yet given d (and c), that approach seems hardly effective in many cases. Supplemental fertilizers are drastically required, it appears, for some, in addition to watering the root. f) MMY has said that the inner subjective experience of milestone states of H/A SoC cannot be described. g) MMY / Gita / other Hindu literature provide a number attributes with the implicit, if not explicit caveat, that attributes in themselves cannot adequately capture the wholeness of the SE. f and g are not necessarily contradictory, but when taken in isolation, can paint a misrepresentation of the implied meaning with both statements taken together.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton
This guy loves Trikkes! He appears in the Trikke infomercial and gives a testimonial -- got his kids on Trikkes, etc. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=49750cl=3798616ch=334515src=news
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:53 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal So, Rick, which Beatle said he left Rishikesh TTC because the Marshy was having sex with female students? Rick Archer wrote: John and George. Paul and Ringo had already left. But George said it was just a rumor and John was a documented liar. According to George, the rumor about the Maharishi trying to seduce anyone at Rishikesh was a lie. It was a rumor. Hard to substantiate, as you say. Conny Larsson (who may be joining FFL soon), Billy Clayton, Rob McCutcheon, Ned Wynne, and others. None of these individuals were personal secretaries, least of all Conny Larsson and Ned Wynn. From what I've read, Ned Wynn once spent about five minutes alone with the Marshy and once carried Marshy's skin for about one minute. I don’t know about Ned Wynn, but the others were all personal secretaries. Others left for other reasons, but knew about the situation. So not a single person can say that they actually saw the Marshy having sex, in over thirty years, even though they were just outside the Marshy's door for days, hours, months, and years. I know a couple of women who can, but they don’t want to go public. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy loves Trikkes! He appears in the Trikke infomercial and gives a testimonial -- got his kids on Trikkes, etc. Edg Practices TM too, according to Bob Brigante. (ouch...that'll be a painful realization for the anti-Tm fundies.) OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/? rn=49750cl=3798616ch=334515src=news
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
The preeminent explanatory text for these ideas is The Symbolism of the Stupa by Adrian Snodgrass. Published in 1985 it is now selling for about US $30-35. It describes the principle ideas and symbolism of the solar path starting with the homology between the mandala of the solar year and the 10,000 bricks of the vedic agnicayana fire altar. It continues through the vedic chaitanya and the buddhist stupa, then goes through the chakra-nadi system and ends with an examination of this idea in the Diamond and Matrix-realm mandalas of the Shingon Tantric Buddhists of China and Japan. Adrian Snodgrass is an archetect and his text is filled with insightful visual illustrations of the solar path. empty do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), That would be the path of the Devas/Gods/Angels/Shining Ones or the *dynamism* MMY talks about, conditioned..by space and time. beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; The 'unconditioned' Brahman is the *Silence* part of the two fold transcendental absolute, Cosmic Consciousness or Nirvikalpa Samadhi. the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. That is the heaven world where one is rewarded for good karma, but not freedom for Samsara, (the wheel of rebirth). There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Of little consequence Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The Northern road is the upward path of the prana leading to the 7th chakra or spiritual illumination and freedom from rebirth. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; Up the spine to the brain. the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Back to rebirth due to unworked out karma. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. One is temporary enlightenment (return to rebirth) and one is permanent (no return). The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. Until they take the Northern path http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm The northern and southern paths are symbolic of the two directions of the kundalini shakti, Northern going up towards Cosmic Consciousness or the brain and Southern coming downwards towards the body or reincarnation. Thanks. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp's Sexual Scandal nablusoss wrote: But don't tell Rick Archer. His whole plot would collapse. John Lennon wanted to desert his wife and son and go to New York to shack up with Yoko, in order to get some sex and drugs. He and Yoko first got together in the UK. Lennon didn’t have to go anywhere for drugs and sex. He had plenty of both wherever he was. Unfortunately, he was not allowed inside the U.S. because he was a known fornicator and drug addict, More significantly, he was a political radical, and was on Nixon’s black list. so he went to Toronto instead, where he and Yoko dresssed up like Hindoo Fakirs' in white bedsheets, attempting to ape the Maharsihi, sat in bed smoking cigarettes, doing drugs, and eating takeout. They did that in Amsterdam: “Drove from Paris to the Amsterdam Hilton, Talking in our beds for a week. The newspapers said, Say what you doing in bed? I said, We're only trying to get us some peace.” You’re pretty sloppy with the facts, dude. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
Perhaps it would make things more clear if I followed my third post with off's reply: First post: I had never heard of Ron Paul before I read about him in FFL. I have not heard about him outside of FFL since then. I have to ask how people outside of Iowa even know who he is, if the news does not cover him. Perhaps fewer than are in the domes these days. Second post: Its been like this for months. Ron Paul is ALL OVER YOUTUBE. Oh, that's the reason I haven't heard of him. I don't get my news off of youtube. Third post: So you think YouTube is insignificant Gullible Fool? I just said I don't get my news off of it. IT IS NOT OFF YOUTUBE YOU MORON, it is newsclips off MNSBC and Bay Area News. Idiot. Watch the news clips and stop being a loser. OffWorld --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After calling me a moron, You have a fair mind, Rick. This is what I wrote. You can draw your own conclusions. The replys are to off_world. First post: I had never heard of Ron Paul before I read about him in FFL. I have not heard about him outside of FFL since then. I have to ask how people outside of Iowa even know who he is, if the news does not cover him. Perhaps fewer than are in the domes these days. Second post: Its been like this for months. Ron Paul is ALL OVER YOUTUBE. Oh, that's the reason I haven't heard of him. I don't get my news off of youtube. Third post: So you think YouTube is insignificant Gullible Fool? I just said I don't get my news off of it. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Not always. Often, conflicts escalate when one responds. If someone calls me white trash, and rather than call him names back, I ignore him or post a more rational retort, I dont feel that he has triumphed. I think he has painted himself as a fool in most peoples eyes. Hes shot himself in the foot. It takes two to have a fight, and often only one to end it. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
On Aug 23, 2007, at 9:38 PM, gullible fool wrote: Perhaps it would make things more clear if I followed my third post with off's reply: First post: I had never heard of Ron Paul before I read about him in FFL. I have not heard about him outside of FFL since then. I have to ask how people outside of Iowa even know who he is, if the news does not cover him. Perhaps fewer than are in the domes these days. Second post: Its been like this for months. Ron Paul is ALL OVER YOUTUBE. Oh, that's the reason I haven't heard of him. I don't get my news off of youtube. Third post: So you think YouTube is insignificant Gullible Fool? I just said I don't get my news off of it. IT IS NOT OFF YOUTUBE YOU MORON, it is newsclips off MNSBC and Bay Area News. Idiot. Watch the news clips and stop being a loser. OffWorld Since Barry seems to be taking a break, guess I just have to step up...Off is up to 38 posts this week, Rick. Pretty much all of them entirely content-free. Sal
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Upanishads: Two Paths - Sun and Moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: 271:5 ... That future life is reached by two roads; p. 272 one, the Devapatha, leading to the world of Brahman (the conditioned), That would be the path of the Devas/Gods/Angels/Shining Ones or the *dynamism* MMY talks about, conditioned..by space and time. beyond which there lies one other stage only, represented by knowledge of and identity with the unconditioned Brahman; The 'unconditioned' Brahman is the *Silence* part of the two fold transcendental absolute, Cosmic Consciousness or Nirvikalpa Samadhi. the other leading to the world of the fathers, and from thence, after the reward of good works has been consumed, back to a new round of mundane existence. That is the heaven world where one is rewarded for good karma, but not freedom for Samsara, (the wheel of rebirth). There is a third road for creatures which live and die, worms, insects, and creeping things, but they are of little consequence. Of little consequence Now it is quite clear that the knowledge which king Kitra possesses, and which Svetaketu does not possess, is that of the two roads after death, sometimes called the right and the left, or the southern and northern roads. These roads are fully described in the Khândogya-upanishad and in the Brihad-âranyaka, with certain variations, yet on the whole with the same purpose. The Northern road is the upward path of the prana leading to the 7th chakra or spiritual illumination and freedom from rebirth. The northern or left road, called also the path of the Devas, passes on from light and day to the bright half of the moon; Up the spine to the brain. the southern or right road, called also the path of the fathers, passes on from smoke and night to the dark half of the moon. Back to rebirth due to unworked out karma. Both roads therefore meet in the moon, but diverge afterwards. While the northern road passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the north, through the sun, (moon,) and the lightning to the world of Brahman, the southern passes by the six months when the sun moves towards the south, to the world of the fathers, the ether, and the moon. One is temporary enlightenment (return to rebirth) and one is permanent (no return). The great difference, however, between the two roads is, that while those who travel on the former do not return again to a new life on earth, but reach in the end a true knowledge of the unconditioned Brahman, those who pass on to the world of the fathers and the moon return to earth to be born again and again. Until they take the Northern path http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe01/sbe01239.htm The northern and southern paths are symbolic of the two directions of the kundalini shakti, Northern going up towards Cosmic Consciousness or the brain and Southern coming downwards towards the body or reincarnation. Thanks. I am thoroughly enjoying this, though I have a slightly different perspective; that of seeing the change in direction of the kundalini shakti, from south to north, as a natural evolution for all of us, eventually. There are so many rebirths taking us down into the southern kundalini, each creating strong impressions from the senses, towards the seat of the senses, until we learn the lesson, after many lifetimes, that happiness doesn't lie in that direction. Surrendering slowly (tamasically) to that which leads us (rajasically) upwards, northward, (satvically) in the direction away from the senses, into the Celestial realms, towards that which is quieter and subtler, until we surrender, to balance, to Being; become Brahman. Freedom from rebirth, or seen another way, freedom to be reborn instantaneously, expanding over and over, always experiencing an expanding Universal existence, satisfying the senses through a confident and never ending newness of experience, becoming at once everything, or just a personal sliver; become Brahman.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: This guy loves Trikkes! He appears in the Trikke infomercial and gives a testimonial -- got his kids on Trikkes, etc. Edg Practices TM too, according to Bob Brigante. (ouch...that'll be a painful realization for the anti-Tm fundies.) OffWorld You're right for once. It sure pissed Sal off bigtime. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Hey ....Gullible Fool
Hey Gullible Fool, you have my permission to block me now. (Rick is asleep at the wheel) Go ahead, there's a good moderator. Block OffWorld. He is a no good postin' fool ! (he's the one on the left of my profile picture...that's me on the right) Go on now, do your job, you have my permission. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Vast empty region in space
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: This guy loves Trikkes! He appears in the Trikke infomercial and gives a testimonial -- got his kids on Trikkes, etc. Edg Practices TM too, according to Bob Brigante. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory hermandan0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/121822 OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Enjoy
Just enjoy: http://tinyurl.com/y6vmpr OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off, I asked you to be a gentleman and refrain from posting until tomorrow midnight. I hate having to act as a school marm, but I'm cancelling your posting rights for a week, until midnight on the 31st, as I did for Shemp. ABOUT TIME TOO ! ! ! Please don't try to post under other ID's. Go hike in the mountains. I wish I could join you. We'd have a jolly chat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:31 PM, off_world_beings wrote: When someone says Sorry, most people don't get their news off YouTube, they are saying these words precisely: You're a fucking moron OffWorld. So I pointed out he was being a moron, that's all. This person was not engaged in a debate, but in demeaning and belittling another member. He should either apologize to me for that, or be taken off moderator status. This is not worthy of a moderator. He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Simple rationale. Maybe if you repeat your points a dozen more times, Off, we'll all get them--I don't think we've heard it quite enough yet. Sal Poor analysis Sal, no sense of humor either. Adios FFL, they've finally done the right thing and banned OffWorld, -- the no good postin fool ! Wh ! OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laird Hamilton
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: This guy loves Trikkes! He appears in the Trikke infomercial and gives a testimonial -- got his kids on Trikkes, etc. Edg Practices TM too, according to Bob Brigante. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory (ouch...that'll be a painful realization for the anti-Tm fundies.) OffWorld You're right for once. It sure pissed Sal off bigtime. OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
Off, I asked you to be a gentleman and refrain from posting until tomorrow midnight. I hate having to act as a school marm, but I’m cancelling your posting rights for a week, until midnight on the 31st, as I did for Shemp. Please don’t try to post under other ID’s. Go hike in the mountains. I wish I could join you. We’d have a jolly chat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:31 PM, off_world_beings wrote: When someone says Sorry, most people don't get their news off YouTube, they are saying these words precisely: You're a fucking moron OffWorld. So I pointed out he was being a moron, that's all. This person was not engaged in a debate, but in demeaning and belittling another member. He should either apologize to me for that, or be taken off moderator status. This is not worthy of a moderator. He THEN used his petty power to remove my status instead of debating the issues. After calling me a moron, then removed my status. These are the ways of the Nazi's, therefore he earned the nickname of a Nazi by me. And everyone hates Nazis, therefore profanity is necessarily used to emphasize that they shall not be tolerated in modern society. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Simple rationale. Maybe if you repeat your points a dozen more times, Off, we'll all get them--I don't think we've heard it quite enough yet. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:50 PM, gullible fool wrote: Yeah, what's the deal Sal, that you couldn't gleam all of the hidden Nazi meaning from I just said I don't get my news off of it. I'm just too woefully imperceptive, I guess. This is probably the most controversy Ron Paul has stirred up since he started running. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
From here on, you should set a goal of watching at least four hours of youtube per day, Sal. --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:50 PM, gullible fool wrote: Yeah, what's the deal Sal, that you couldn't gleam all of the hidden Nazi meaning from I just said I don't get my news off of it. I'm just too woefully imperceptive, I guess. This is probably the most controversy Ron Paul has stirred up since he started running. Sal Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
[FairfieldLife] Re: GULLIBLE FOOL IS A NAZI
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it would make things more clear if I followed my third post with off's reply: Do you really think anybody cares? Do you really think anybody reads this silly exhange? Furchristsakes, let's move the hell on. lurk _ ___ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
