[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bronte Baxter Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines The you need phrasing (in you need a checking) is a clue that someone is stepping on someone else's toes. If not insulting them, at least certainly telling them what they should do. When a person starts telling others what to do, I think it always borders on an insult. The polite, TMO way of saying that is It would be good if we had a checking. Let's take this on a case-by-case basis. Next time someone says something that someone feels violates this guideline, let's discuss it and see if we can reach a consensus. I find this idea both interesting and warming. If it will work with the obvious anarchists on this list is an open question. At least your thinking is of high quality, IMHO, on this topic, and shows that the way your brain is moving is towards group-consciousness expressed by consensus thus reflecting the higher values of the Age of Enlightenment. Well done Rick !
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick wrote: These are all good points Judy and I agree with them. As you know, I have been very reluctant to institute such a policy, for many of the reasons you mention. I consider it to be an experiment, and I'll drop it if it doesn't work. At t this point, my idea of personal attacks and insults are the more blatant, abrasive ones. I have no problem with you need a checking. I do have a problem with calling someone a f*ckhead or threatening them with physical violence. Let's see how it goes. I agree with Edg on this one. Rick, if you start to discriminate between blatant, abrasive personal attacks and milder personal insults, you really do step into the role of a judge. People are likely to get upset with you, comparing their remark, which you ruled against, to someone else's remark, which they feel was worse but which you allowed. Perhaps for this to work it has to be entirely clear-cut: personal derogatory remarks of any kind not being acceptable. Having said my piece earlier, I've been staying out of all this. But I'll make one comment as to when someone has stepped over the line. It involves the use of the word liar. IMO, *most* of the uses of that word here are in response to someone's *opinion* of another person. Person 1 says something that he or she believes is completely accurate about Person 2; it is Person 1's *opinion*. And then Person 2, who *disagrees* with the opinion of his or her behavior expressed by Person 1, steps in and disputes it. *If* Person 2 disputes Person 1's opinion by saying something like, I don't agree with your assessment of my behavior; here is what *I* think is happening, that's not an attack. But when Person 2 says, Person 1 said such-and-such about me and that is a LIE, and Person 1 is a LIAR, that's a *personal attack. No question about it. Person 2 has chosen to take an exchange of ideas and different points of view and interpret someone else's opinion of them as a personal attack against them. They have then decided to attack back. In general, anytime someone tries to justify attacking back they are trying to justify a personal attack that was just made by them. It couldn't be any clearer. In their minds the personal attack may be justified, but the very fact that they *are* attempting to justify it shows that they know it was a personal attack, and thus against the FFL guidelines. Just my two centimes...
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte wrote: That analogy someone gave of the old Western town is apropos, I think. Only when he said the peaceful townspeople ignore the rought bunch and just go on their way, it didn't work out like that. The peaceful townspeople were always getting caught in the crossfire. Curtis wrote: People don't have to read posts. They are not like bullets that intersect with your life without invitation. This analogy doesn't work for me. Bronte: They are, though. In my own experience, I made a post a couple weeks ago and got stuff back like bronte baxter -- the faggy guy with the girly name. For the record, Bronte, that was what we around here call a joke. One is supposed to laugh at such things, not get all offended by them. It might help you to put it in perspective that what I was replying TO when I made that crack was some newbie getting all pompous and trying (in her first post to the forum, no less) to lecture everyone here on how they should conduct themselves, on a forum she had obviously not spent very much time reading. This is considered rude and inappropriate on *any* Internet forum. You might, as I suggested a couple of days ago, consider doing the work yourself and giving this place more of a try before you start trying to change it into what *you* want it to be. It's a group effort, and it is -- and will always be -- what the *group* as a whole wants it to be. You are merely one tiny part of that group. You've made some good points, and gotten a favor- able reaction to many of them. Now it's time to sit back and see how things work out, *not* to keep lecturing people on how they just don't understand things and you do. Does that latter approach sound at all *familiar* to you from the TMO? And haven't you said several times here that you feel like you are a victim of it? Don't victimize others in the same way. Give this new policy a chance, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthetic life skeptics...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey N Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then how would I film it? Besides, isn't it more eye- opening to be able to see things occur with the naked eye? I mean, I understand that you want a closer look, and I will indeed provide that in time when I somehow aquire the proper film equipment for that. But isn't this at least a good start and a reasonable demonstration? But please, this is great to know what other's are expecting. I didn't think that would be one. Alright, what else? Jeff Is it ruled out that the bubbles are the result of for instance this reaction: C6H12O6 ¨ 2 CH3CH2OH + 2 CO2 (Haven't been following this discussion very thoroughly...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Use a microscope instead of a videocam.
[FairfieldLife] SHEMP'S ORDER , Maharishi's Order , Natural Order , Cosmic Order - 111
Columns by Sauvik Chakraverti Antidote A natural order exists There is a natural order around us. This order is easily visible when we visit crowded commercial areas in densely populated cities. In Delhis Chandni Chowk, Bangalores Brigade Road, Tokyos Ginza, Londons Oxford Circus or Singapores Orchard Street the visitor does not find posses of armed policemen maintaining order. The order exists on its own. Homo Economicus is a rule-following animal. He obtains desired objects by following unwritten rules that have been learnt over generations. The study of these rules is the task of both the subject of Law as well as that of Economics. It is a tragedy that super-specialisation means there are very few who study both subjects today as Adam Smith and scholars of his generation had done. The fact that a natural order exists independent of any single human will is important for all governments to note, for it is evidence of a deeply ingrained commercial culture. Since culture is something that has evolved slowly over many generations without any government controlling it, as have language, money and morals, it is a towering achievement for any civilisation to be possessed of a deeply ingrained commercial culture. For this is the means by which savages have tamed their instinctual urges and submitted themselves to the rigorous discipline of obeying the rules of the game. The natural order in a city is evidence of civilisation: trading with strangers and living among them is human action that lies between instinct and reason, as Hayek put it. It is evidence of a change in human nature, with the instinct to snatch being replaced by the natural propensity to truck, barter and exchange. Simultaneously, life in a small tribe of known faces, all following a common purpose, has made way for rugged individualism, following ones own ends and purposes, serving strangers and being served by strangers in turn, while also being in ceaseless competition with them. No single will commands the order. This natural order makes the task of government relatively simple. If, on the other hand, the natural affairs of men resulted in a war of each against all, as was Thomas Hobbes paranoia, the task of government would be impossible. The proper understanding and comprehension of this natural order, then, is the first task of government. A government that understands this order and supports it gets an ally. Note that this natural order does not exist in Srinagar, Kashmir, where there are armed soldiers posted every five yards. What the government is doing there is a question that needs to be asked. Ditto Baghdad. How do the citizens of Srinagar and Baghdad get their daily needs met? What about Kabul? Should we first set up a vibrant market-place in these cities or should we try and install a government first and a democratic one at that? There is an interesting account of a British colonial civil servant in Baluchistan who, when faced with two warring tribes in his district, got them to assemble in neutral territory and trade peaceably with each other. Such civil servants (who invoked the market) were infinitely wiser than the diplomats who conduct international affairs today with brute military might. Good government is therefore based on the realisation that the society it seeks to serve is already a self-ordering one, possessed of ethics and rules that make a complex, competitive and impersonal market order possible. Through the market, every possible societal want is satisfied, almost entirely without recourse to either civil or criminal law. The market is the process by which humanity survives. A good government is one that preserves and protects the market order. A bad government operates as a predator on the market: it has the evil eye. At this point, let us recall the title of John Lockes famous work of 1690: Two Treatises on Civil Government. The term civil government has many deep implications. The word civil has its root in civilisation and civitas (which means city), and is related to civility, civil service, and civil society. In this path-breaking book, which laid the foundations of many free societies, including the USA, Locke says that: Men being by nature all free, equal, and independent, no one can be put out of this estate, and subjected to the political power of another, without his own consent. The only way, whereby any one divests himself of his natural liberty, and puts on the bonds of civil society, is by agreeing with other men to join and unite into a community, for their comfortable, safe, and peaceable living one amongst another, in a secure enjoyment of their properties, and a greater security against any, that are not of it. When any number of men have so consented to make one community or government, they are thereby presently incorporated, and make one body
[FairfieldLife] ShempMcGurk's Order , Maharishi's Order , Natural Order , Cosmic Order - 222
Columns by Sauvik Chakraverti Antidote A natural social order 22 Go to any Indian bazaar, in the cities or the mofussils, and you will see innumerable hordes exchanging goods without the presence of any policemen or recourse to either civil or criminal law. This natural social order that already exists is the true subject matter of any science of society. There is a need for a science of society precisely because there is an order without design. If the order was the product of a central planner or a central legislature, then there would be no need for a science of society, because the particular arrangements of the planner or the legislature would explain and account for the order. The reason why this natural social order exists is because the elements, individuals like you and me, obey unwritten and even unknown rules when we go about our lives surviving through the processes of market exchange. The true social science, therefore, proceeds with the rule-following individual and thereafter attempts to derive theorems applicable to the whole. A true science of society must be based on individualism as well as subjectivism: that is, the mind of the thinking, acting human being. Once the individual is understood, then only can we begin to understand the big picture: society. An example of such an approach is history. To arrive at the big picture of, say, the industrial revolution, the good historian will study the elements first: the politics of the age; the literature and arts; the individual entrepreneurs and their daring ventures; the squalid conditions of the new industrial towns etc. Thereafter, he will compose a picture of that age. The false social science applies polylogic and conjures up conflicts between groups, which are then used to foment strife: fascism, racism, socialism, communism, trade unionism and Keynesianism are all examples of polylogic, false ideas of society based on group-think and aggregation. In reality, the very factual existence of the natural order is proof that the elements co-exist in harmony; and that just as God has made the movements of the celestial spheres harmonious, so also He has made the social world one in which individuals interact harmoniously through market exchanges. If we apply the individualistic method to our understanding of Indian society, we are left with a sobering conclusion: that there is a great deal of hope for us because almost all of us are rule-following animals plying their individual boats in the great waters. We are a civilised people with a deeply ingrained commercial culture which we do not understand, nor appreciate. This shows that the science of society is very much in its infancy. This is precisely because, neither in Economics, nor Political Science, nor Law, is this rule following individual the central focus of attention. There is, instead, something peculiarly socialistic in its conception: Sociology! Let us now sit back and imagine ourselves all as boatman-peddlers on the Dal Lake. For those who havent seen Srinagar, let me explain: as you idly sip kahwa on your house-boat deck, boatman after boatman pulls along selling goods as diverse as flowers and perfumes, leatherware and cookies. (I bought some charas, but thats another story!) This natural social order is present as much on the Dal Lake as anywhere else in the country, where the people follow unwritten rules of just conduct during their market exchanges. If all of society was composed of such people, if such a way of life was the universal ethic and the highest moral code, then humankind would have reached its zenith and perfection, and government would be unnecessary. Some impartial judges, some learned lawyers and that would be all. If this is an impossible ideal, so be it: but the true social scientist must visualise it, and direct all moral and intellectual faculties towards its attainment. Let us now turn our attention to the government. All the false social scientists who apply polylogic call upon this government to solve all the ills they believe society is possessed of. If people are poor, the government is to act. If people are unemployed, or sick, or whatever, call in the government. They all see the very same society all of us in our individual boats on the Dal Lake as full of imperfections, and they see the government as composed of perfectionists. But who are the individuals in the government? They are ministers, bureaucrats, policemen, generals, diplomats etc. How do they survive? They all survive because government tax collectors extort money from us. There are, thus, on our idyllic Dal Lake, many armed pirates who are snatching away at our honest gains. That is the government. The true Political Science, the highest principles of Jurisprudence, and the noblest ideals of Democracy concern themselves principally with the limits to this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher
In a message dated 9/9/07 8:51:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let’s try this: the next time someone attacks the person rather than the points, let’s take a look at what he/she has done, see if we all agree that that’s what has happened, or whether it’s largely a matter of individual perspective, and see whether the alleged offender, if judged guilty, concurs with the group consensus and agrees to refrain from such behavior. Then I’ll mete out a sentence, or won’t, depending on the circumstances. Essentially, I’m suggesting trial by jury, for the very reasons that process was established – to protect against the potential biases of one individual’s perspective. I've got a better idea. Stick to the 35 post limit and disallow any so called *four letter words* or curse words. This will clean up the dialogue and allow everyone interested, to post their ideas and thoughts for all to see. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] What a great movie!!!!!!!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a better idea. Stick to the 35 post limit and disallow any so called *four letter words* or curse words. This will clean up the dialogue and allow everyone interested, to post their ideas and thoughts for all to see. Ahem. A *very* quick search reveals that you are not above using the four-letter words 'shit' and 'piss' and calling someone a 'dumb ass' yourself. While I understand your aversion to these words, even though I don't agree with it, it might be nice to remove the beam from thine own eye before picking nits out of other people's eyes. And, for the record, some of us find people who use asterisks to hide what they're really saying *far* more offensive than those who use the words themselves. Is there anyone who doesn't pronounce the words sh*t and f*ck in their heads when they read them written that way? You have a tendency to do this in your posts, too. It's just a way of pretending not to curse when you really are.
[FairfieldLife] Attention Dr. PETE
Dr. Pete, I've been suffering from Trigeminal Neuropathy since 1999. The attacks were very severe in 1999, 2000, 2001. The symptoms have subsided for the past few years. My allopathic Doctor has put me on Gabapentin and Clonazepham. He said Alchohol chould not be taken under any circumstances while on these drugs as it would damage the liver permanantly. He said that Neuropathy occurs if there is 'kidney problem' or 'Vascular disorders' or 'Auto-Immune disorders' I have vascular disorder. I ruptured a vein in my left testes twice. First while playing tennis ruptured it inside the testes and second while getting down from a bike ruptured the same vein above the left testes in the left groin. I tore a ligament in my tibia while running and continued running not realising the seriousness of the injury and a major vein in my leg became varicated. Even doctors dont understand how this happened. Both Gabapentin and Clonazepham completely depresses the Sexual function and errection. You can call me an artificial bramachari. Are there any other medicines to treat Trigeminal Neuropathy and Peripheral Neuropathy.?? I would like your opinion on this. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic b. A vocal tic characterized by the phrase, Jai Guru Dev. c. A partial facial paralysis resulting in a permanent blissful smile with soft focused eyes. d. A delusional/hysteric al condition of believing one no longer has genitals and if genitals are admitted to, then no understanding of their sexual function. e. A delusional obsession that one's narrative. explanation of existence (supreme knowledge) is superior to all others regardless of the practical consequences of these obsessions (i.e., poverty, poor health, failed relationships, etc.) - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
Bronte: snipped: but their insistence on not getting personal in the meetings keep the discussion headed in a productive direction instead of getting bogged down in petty animosities. Auth: Do you have a reference for this? Was a transcript made of the meetings? Bronte, FWIW, and I know this whole discussion has gotten somewhat tired, but often in this stage of the discussion with Judy, things get a little peculiar. Just when you think you might be at an ending point, it keeps on going. Something like this can go on for 25-30 posts. (hence 35/wk posting limit) Judy is just not going to concede ground, and she can parce a dialogue endlessly. That is why I have found it in my best interests to generally let her have the last word, or not engage her, or not get engaged by her. And as so often been mentioned, BE SELECTIVE in which posts and posters you read. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Homeopathy - Medicine or Snake-oil or Bug-oil..????
Interface Beetle in my pill Thursday August 30 2007 19:30 IST Maneka Gandhi I use homeopathy a lot. But when surfing the internet, when I came across this line: The Secretary, Department of Ayurveda, Yoga and Naturopathy, Unani Siddha and Homoeopathy, is fascinated by the use of cockroaches in homoeopathic dilutions, my heart sank. Even more when I found it really happens. In India, cockroaches (blatta orientalis) and American cockroaches (blatta Americana) are used to treat chronic bronchitis, a form of asthma characterised by suffocation with an accumulation of mucus and acute cough and this medicine is standardised in the Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia of India. And that is not the only insect. Cantharis prescribed for burns and urinary tract infections is made from Spanish Fly, a beetle. Coccus cacti prescribed for whooping cough uses another beetle. European spiders are sourced for preparing tarantula hispanic for nervous disorders. The honey bee is used for insect bites and allergies. Lachesis is derived from cobra poison and is prescribed for all blood infections, blood poisoning and blood decay. The ladybug, Coccinella septempunctata, is used in neuralgic pains of the teeth, gums and mouth; the honeybee (Apis mellifica) relieves sore throats and insect bites. The Red fire ant (Formica rufa) is used for arthritic conditions, itching and crawling sensations upon the skin. The Black Widow (Latrodectus mactans) is a remedy for ailments of the heart including angina. Homoeopathic drugs are are not just made from vegetables and minerals. Unfortunately they also use animals 300 different substances have animal extract. According to the main manufacturers in this country they breed the animals and insects they use which I am not sure they have made legal by asking for permission from the government, which means there are laboratories in this country growing lice, cockroaches, mosquitoes, bedbugs, wasps, red ants, and scorpions. There are 300 substances of animal origin in the pills, granules or liquid granules, gels, syrups, pills or collyriums. Some of the whole animals crushed and used live include jelly fish, lice, American cockroach, the Indian cockroach, mosquito, honey bee, bed-bug, red ant, wasp, spiders, scorpions, snails, locusts, caterpillars, scabies mites, kissing bugs. red starfish, roasted sponge, yellow viper, copperhead snake, red coral, rattlesnakes, coral snake, purple fish, cobras, leeches, and skunks. The whole animals that are used dried include Spanish fly, beetle, and green lizard. Some of the secretions from animals used are Orchitinum (from the testicular extracts of man), Ophorinum (from ovarian extract of cow), Hippomanes (from the amniotic fluid taken from an unborn or newborn horse), Moschus (from dried secretions of the male musk deer), and Oleum morrhuae (from cod liver oil). There are products of animal glands/hormones too. Examples are pancreatinum (from pancreas of beef), pepsinum (from the stomach of pig), pituitary (from the posterior portion of the pituitary gland of sheep), thyroidinum (from whole endocrine glands of sheep or calf), oophorinum (from the ovary of cow, sheep), thyroid gland of sheep, and lecithin from animal brains. The brief list I have given is only a small sampling of completely bizarre ingredients. The rest you can find at any Homeopathic Meteria Medica or ask your homeopathic doctor and watch him squirm around as he tries to answer. The origins The word Homeopathy is taken from the Greek, homoios meaning like and pathos meaning disease. It was established in 1796 by the German doctor Samuel Hahnemann who posed that injecting a substance with similar effects to those of an illness and which would be toxic at a high dose could cure that same illness with the use of an infinitesimally small dose. Thus coffea (based on coffee) can be used to treat palpitations and insomnia. Hahnemann used the same chemical drugs, animal parts, herbs, reptiles, insects, metals, minerals, acids, and radioactive material which are still employed by modern homeopathic and allopathic doctors. He believed that the remedies took on the spirit, especially in the case of the animals, reptiles, and insects. A common practice of his was to suffocate live birds into the alcohol to capture the spirit of the animal into the remedy. This is still practiced today in such homeopathic remedies as Formica Rufa or Myrmexine, used in the treatment of arthritis made from crushed live ants. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Attention Dr. PETE
Jason, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a psychologist. I'm sorry that I can't help you -Peter --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Pete, I've been suffering from Trigeminal Neuropathy since 1999. The attacks were very severe in 1999, 2000, 2001. The symptoms have subsided for the past few years. My allopathic Doctor has put me on Gabapentin and Clonazepham. He said Alchohol chould not be taken under any circumstances while on these drugs as it would damage the liver permanantly. He said that Neuropathy occurs if there is 'kidney problem' or 'Vascular disorders' or 'Auto-Immune disorders' I have vascular disorder. I ruptured a vein in my left testes twice. First while playing tennis ruptured it inside the testes and second while getting down from a bike ruptured the same vein above the left testes in the left groin. I tore a ligament in my tibia while running and continued running not realising the seriousness of the injury and a major vein in my leg became varicated. Even doctors dont understand how this happened. Both Gabapentin and Clonazepham completely depresses the Sexual function and errection. You can call me an artificial bramachari. Are there any other medicines to treat Trigeminal Neuropathy and Peripheral Neuropathy.?? I would like your opinion on this. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic b. A vocal tic characterized by the phrase, Jai Guru Dev. c. A partial facial paralysis resulting in a permanent blissful smile with soft focused eyes. d. A delusional/hysteric al condition of believing one no longer has genitals and if genitals are admitted to, then no understanding of their sexual function. e. A delusional obsession that one's narrative. explanation of existence (supreme knowledge) is superior to all others regardless of the practical consequences of these obsessions (i.e., poverty, poor health, failed relationships, etc.) - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
[FairfieldLife] The dwarf with glasses tests the slippery slopes (UNLEASH YOUR BLISS)
Doc, I recognize your concept, but I think that you are on a slippery slope in this modeling for us here (when recently we've sorta all decided that we're going to redouble our efforts to do the right thing) of an ad hominem attack. I share your feelings about this person, but I have no easy validation to proffer that that feeling is correct other than that I have it and am often spot on in such matters. I resonate with how you put my feeling into words, but I caution you that if you had used this poetry to encapsulate a similar feeling about one of us here, then you would be accused of flaming. I'm just saying. That, and nice blurbifying! Edg the Priest of Good Manners --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at his picture, he's a souless alien! --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone sent me this. others may find it interesting: Wow! Please watch this exciting short video of Lama Dorje (Thunderbolt) blasting people with ecstatic energy! Movie trailer: HYPERLINK http://www.lamathunderbolt.com/largetrailer.htm; \nhttp://www.lamathunderbolt.com/largetrailer.htm Lama Dorje has been examined and tested in Dallas, Texas, with findings very fascinating to the scientists. It was revealed that he has 3-strand DNA, high levels of gamma radiation emanating from his brain, and various other anomalies that could not be explained in any conventional way. These characteristics are the result of years of practicing Kunlun nei gung. About the movie: HYPERLINK http://www.lamathunderbolt.com/about.htm; \nhttp://www.lamathunderbolt.com/about.htm Powerful spiritual teachings have been held secret throughout our history. Rare practices and techniques have been kept hidden in monasteries and temples only to benefit a few people in each generation. This was done for many reasons, but the time has come for this knowledge to be shared with those who are interested and dedicated to gaining a deeper understanding of their own amazing true nature. Lama Thunderbolt examines the fascinating life of a modern day spiritual master who posseses mind-boggling abilities. Sharing his experiences and secret knowledge, he dynamically demonstrates that we are all capable of opening to a bigger reality and a greater understanding of who and what we really are. Every human being's essential nature is perfect and faultless, but after years of immersion in the world we easily forget our roots and take on a counterfeit nature. -Lao Tzu Lama Dorje (Tibetan for Thunderbolt) was born Max Christensen, as the only survivor of the birth of triplets. His father had been exposed to very high levels of Agent Orange in the military and the result was that his offspring had many physical anomalies and birth defects. Fortunately, on the military base there was a kind, Chinese groundskeeper, who befriended the family and took care of young Max. Light arc over head as an infant. As fate would have it, Max's new caretaker also happened to be Wudang Master Wu Xiao Deng of Hubei province, and his life was about to get better. Max began studying under Master Wu Xiao Deng in 1966 at the age of six, and because he was weak and sickly, was taught a wide range of lesser known esoteric and alchemical practices to strengthen his body. These included various forms of qi gung, or the absorption of heavenly energy into oneself, and nei gung, the power to transmit energy or qi from oneself to another. One day, at the age of seven, Max was struck by lightning while fishing in Michigan. The strike knocked him out for a short period of time and when he came to, the whole world looked different. The lightning had actually fused his third eye open, allowing him to see energies beyond normal human vision, at all times. Knowing the significance of what had happened, Master Wu Xiao Deng took Max to downtown Detroit to observe people. He'd met many people prior to this, but was surprised to find that he was now able to see the face behind the face they presented. He could see the hidden pain and suffering that most humans carry and was overcome with compassion. It was at that point that he decided to take the Bodhisattva vow, an agreement with the divine, dedicating his life to helping others. Lama Dorje has received training in Snake Bagua, Taoist thunder practices, as well as Snake Chod and Mongolian medical practices. He learned the rare practices of the Kunlun tradition, including Kunlun formless-form nei gung, and Red Dragon palm nei gung. He is also a master Tantric Yogin. Later in life, he received empowerment of the Santig Dorje Phurba from Ralo Rimpoche at the Phodrang Monastery
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Having said my piece earlier, I've been staying out of all this. But I'll make one comment as to when someone has stepped over the line. It involves the use of the word liar. IMO, *most* of the uses of that word here are in response to someone's *opinion* of another person. Person 1 says something that he or she believes is completely accurate about Person 2; it is Person 1's *opinion*. In my my own usage of the term--because this is what Barry is primarily referring to here--this is not correct. I use the term liar for a person who makes deliberately factually false statements, not one who issues opinions that I disagree with (about me or anything else). I'd ask Barry to provide examples to the contrary, but there wouldn't be any point. His opinion about the general usage here of the term liar is also incorrect, in my observation. It's rare that someone is called a liar for merely expressing an opinion about someone else. If it does happen, it's likely to be because the person using the term knows that the person expressing the opinion has evidence that clearly documents the inaccuracy of that opinion. I'd ask Barry to provide examples to the contrary of any of the above, but there wouldn't be any point. snip In general, anytime someone tries to justify attacking back they are trying to justify a personal attack that was just made by them. It couldn't be any clearer. In their minds the personal attack may be justified, but the very fact that they *are* attempting to justify it shows that they know it was a personal attack, and thus against the FFL guidelines. duh The point of such a justification, obviously, is that if the guidelines don't apply to all, they shouldn't apply to anybody. If there is now actually going to be *enforcement* of the guidelines--either by Rick or by consensus of the group--the person who made the initial attack will presumably be sanctioned for doing so, and there will be no need to attack back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 3 videos of Byron katie doing the work in Israel on War
I HAVE NOT YET WATCHED THE VIDEOS BUT YOUR COMMENT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOU (OR AT LEAST WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE)BILLY G Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte: snipped: but their insistence on not getting personal in the meetings keep the discussion headed in a productive direction instead of getting bogged down in petty animosities. Auth: Do you have a reference for this? Was a transcript made of the meetings? Bronte, FWIW, and I know this whole discussion has gotten somewhat tired, but often in this stage of the discussion with Judy, things get a little peculiar. Just when you think you might be at an ending point, it keeps on going. Something like this can go on for 25-30 posts. (hence 35/wk posting limit) Judy is just not going to concede ground, and she can parce a dialogue endlessly. That is why I have found it in my best interests to generally let her have the last word, or not engage her, or not get engaged by her. This is entirely unnecessary, Lurk, and in my view offensive. Perhaps you're just trying to test the new rules against personal attack? In any case, it's a really bad example to use to make your point against me. Bronte had based much of her argument on her claim about the founders' meetings, so it only makes sense to ask her where she got her information, especially if she was thinking that claim was dispositive and should end the discussion, as you suggest (although I doubt she thought that; we had exchanged only a couple of posts, and I'd be surprised if she wasn't open to any further dialogue). What is your objection to long-running discussions anyway? That's the only way to hash out complicated issues, and this one is certainly important to the group. If they bore you, don't read them. But don't try to dissuade others from participating by gratuitously attacking one of the participants.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
TurquoiseB wrote: . Bronte, It might help you to put it in perspective that what I was replying TO when I made that crack was some newbie getting all pompous and trying (in her first post to the forum, no less) to lecture everyone here on how they should conduct themselves, on a forum she had obviously not spent very much time reading. Edg: Turq, this word obviously is not so easily validated. It smacks of an ad hominem attack in that it SEEMS to imply that Bronte has a personality that is not up to Turq's standards of message board scholarship and thus deficient to some degree and in need of fixing. I don't think that the cogency she's shown us thus far deserves this kind of treatment. In fact, she told us all that she'd been lurking, so if that's true, her lack of seeing the whole picture that you seem to have comes down to her having a POV different from yours. There's tons of wiggle room in which I can have the thought that Bronte is not a yokel lacking insight and unconcerned about it. However lite you've been in your labeling, I do feel that, indeed, labeling has occurred. If a ten year old child somehow started posting here, we'd all handle the child with, ahem, kid gloves, ya? Bronte may indeed need to do more reading to get a feel for this place, but it she were a ten year old who had not read widely enough, the group would throw a cream pie in YOUR face for chiding the child and expecting too much too soon from a starter nervous system. I think we need to treat each other with this kind of delicacy if we're to turn around the flaming here. Now, to add to your understanding, let me testify that I too lurked for years here, and when I started posting, I thought I knew the score, but I was quite off about most folks here, and I found out in short order that the reactions of others to my thoughts are quite different than I would have predicted. Suddenly, the trolls popped and I could see them as I had never seen them before -- but only after they'd reacted to me. In short, it may be very hard to get a feel for a place by merely lurking. It's one thing to read the words of a troll, it's another thing to read the words of a troll about me. Then it becomes personal, and the flaming of the troll is felt much more deeply than if the troll had attacked someone else. Edg The Antiflamer
[FairfieldLife] Left-wing brain, right-wing brain
From the Los Angeles Times: Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain Even in humdrum nonpolitical decisions, liberals and conservatives literally think differently, researchers show. By Denise Gellene Los Angeles Times Staff Writer September 10, 2007 Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work. In a simple experiment reported today in the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information. Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions Analyzing the data, Sulloway said liberals were 4.9 times as likely as conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts, and 2.2 times as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy. Sulloway said the results could explain why President Bush demonstrated a single-minded commitment to the Iraq war and why some people perceived Sen. John F. Kerry, the liberal Massachusetts Democrat who opposed Bush in the 2004 presidential race, as a flip- flopper for changing his mind about the conflict. Based on the results, he said, liberals could be expected to more readily accept new social, scientific or religious ideas Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/3yvxlm
[FairfieldLife] Turqy and Lurky and Doc, oh my! (Re: New Policy and updated guidelines)
Lurk, You are characterizing Judy's personality, but you are not a psychologist who has studied her over many sessions of interaction and openness. The difference between the truth about Judy and an opinion about Judy, is pretty murky, Lurky, and it is slippery slope stuff to talk about posters's posting style instead of their posts' words and concepts. You do a remarkable job at bending over backwards to not flame Judy, but there is a faint nuance of a flame there, methinks. I too often let Judy have the last word -- because I just get tired of losing the argument, and yep, there she is still trucking and high stepping and not making any logical errors in doing so. She may seem to be beating a dead horse, but every lash lands exactly on the the spot on the carcass she targets. I hate that! I have the deepest hopes that Judy will begin to tell us of the flowers of life with equal precision. Edg The Flameless --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte: snipped: but their insistence on not getting personal in the meetings keep the discussion headed in a productive direction instead of getting bogged down in petty animosities. Auth: Do you have a reference for this? Was a transcript made of the meetings? Bronte, FWIW, and I know this whole discussion has gotten somewhat tired, but often in this stage of the discussion with Judy, things get a little peculiar. Just when you think you might be at an ending point, it keeps on going. Something like this can go on for 25-30 posts. (hence 35/wk posting limit) Judy is just not going to concede ground, and she can parce a dialogue endlessly. That is why I have found it in my best interests to generally let her have the last word, or not engage her, or not get engaged by her. And as so often been mentioned, BE SELECTIVE in which posts and posters you read. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's one thing to read the words of a troll, it's another thing to read the words of a troll about me. Then it becomes personal, and the flaming of the troll is felt much more deeply than if the troll had attacked someone else. I concur. And as I suggested earlier, it's not just that the attack may be felt more deeply by the target, but that those *not* being attacked may not even perceive that an attack has taken place, even if they've read the exchange. In some cases, the attacker may have deliberately crafted the post so as to make the attack pretty much invisible to all but the target. It's a species of plausible deniability, in other words. A side point: I wish we would reserve the term troll for use in its original sense, that is, someone who makes inflammatory posts merely to inspire a reaction from as many people as possible, and hopefully to create conflict among the members of the group. A troll's post is frequently not sincere, i.e., the troll doesn't necessarily believe what he or she says. There may be some overlap with flaming, but generally these are two distinct behaviors. There are some here who claim they personally attack others only to deliberately push their buttons and get a reaction; this could be seen as a form of trolling, but again, trolling in the traditional sense is done to push the group's buttons, not those of one of the perpetrator's enemies. Plus which, the claim that the attack is made only to push the buttons of the target, i.e., that there's no real hostility involved, is almost always a crock. It's no different than any other personal attack.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rabia lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello dear ones, Found a movie explaining our relationship to God and each other in a super pedagogical way. After seeing this movie all my theological question marks were straightened out. What a tool! (and FREE to watch) (-: http://theomegashift.com/video.html Love, Rabia Actually God is a much better Web designer and does not endorse this site built by a 10 year old in his first HTML for Dummies class. One really positive thing that came out of the video is that the chick's singing made Britney's MTV video award show bomb seem like her best comeback ever. Is is against the new rules to call the people on this video total retards? It is. OK how about saying that they are offering enlightenment lessons from the short bus? Still offensive, OK. Let's see, the video reminded me of a Monty Python skit satirizing goofballs making a We understand enlightenment video? Kinda negative huh? OK to conform to the new rules I will say that I loved the video and found it uplifting in every way. I got the Omega shift and now see everything in creation as aspects of my maxi-me and both of the presenters are pieces of my mini-mes, aspects of myself who happen to be total retards. I hope that works. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[FairfieldLife] Curtis slyly slips along the flaming precipice (Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!)
Curtis, You're trying to do the Sarah Silverman runaround -- and doing it well! Sarah says the most offensive things with almost complete deniability. Yet, even she gets called on her stuff. Here's a quote: Silverman explained that a friend had advised her on how to avoid jury duty by writing a racial slur on the selection form, something inappropriate, like 'I hate chinks'. However, Silverman said that she ultimately decided that she did not want to be thought of as a racist, so she said, I wrote 'I love chinks' and who doesn't? Even though Silverman claimed to be satirizing the racist thought process, Guy Aoki, co-founder and head of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans (MANAA), objected to her use of the slur, saying that NBC's airing of it was inexcusable. The key concept in my opinion is expressed as this question: Has the writer put the reader's attention on negativity? You've done that below. Funny, ya, but. Edg the No-Flames-Allowed Message Board Guy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rabia lundberg rabialundberg@ wrote: Hello dear ones, Found a movie explaining our relationship to God and each other in a super pedagogical way. After seeing this movie all my theological question marks were straightened out. What a tool! (and FREE to watch) (-: http://theomegashift.com/video.html Love, Rabia Actually God is a much better Web designer and does not endorse this site built by a 10 year old in his first HTML for Dummies class. One really positive thing that came out of the video is that the chick's singing made Britney's MTV video award show bomb seem like her best comeback ever. Is is against the new rules to call the people on this video total retards? It is. OK how about saying that they are offering enlightenment lessons from the short bus? Still offensive, OK. Let's see, the video reminded me of a Monty Python skit satirizing goofballs making a We understand enlightenment video? Kinda negative huh? OK to conform to the new rules I will say that I loved the video and found it uplifting in every way. I got the Omega shift and now see everything in creation as aspects of my maxi-me and both of the presenters are pieces of my mini-mes, aspects of myself who happen to be total retards. I hope that works. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[FairfieldLife] Secret Coded Message for Curtis: For your eyes only
Secret Machinating Missive to codename: Curtis Blues (alias, the Third Blues Brother) FOR YOUR EYES ONLY Curtis, your piercing intellect astounds me, as always. How did you figure it out? The secret plot and all. And its machinistic end game. But you of course did not reveal the whole thing, for which you will be rewarded by the brotherhood. You see our trickery for what it is. This No personal attacks ploy is the facade for turning the world into zombified bliss ninnies. You, and Bill of course, are so spot on, its utterly amazing. Thank god though you have not figured out the part where we take over the Federal Reserve and the World Bank. Or the 911 coverup where, codename Tricky RIK, set the towers a crashing with his slingshot. Jeez, if word ever got out on that. Actually there are 108 steps in our nefarious plan, all aimed at putting and end to this democratic sham and installing Maria Sharapova as our one an only Queen -- the only female allowed to procreate -- the Real Queen Bee. Good news bro. You and I, it will be revealed, are the fulfillment of the prophesy of Abraham, Moses, and Sweet Jesus, who all said, a bride should have something new and something blue (some translations from the anti-brotherhood, say its something old, not something new, but they are well total retards). So when Queen Maria is annointed (many rare oils dripping down upon her), and coronated, something New and something Blue will be offered up to her, as 2 of the 12 who have procreation rights with the Queen. At that time it will be revealed that you are indeed the Holy Grail, the love child of Ray Charles and Johnny Cash, and thus get one extra night a month with the queen. And the Brotherhood is so impressed with Bill's brilliant expose, which really ripped the cover off things around at conspiracy central, he is being designated a third. But shhh! MUM's the word. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rabia lundberg rabialundberg@ wrote: Hello dear ones, Found a movie explaining our relationship to God and each other in a super pedagogical way. After seeing this movie all my theological question marks were straightened out. What a tool! (and FREE to watch) (-: http://theomegashift.com/video.html Love, Rabia Actually God is a much better Web designer and does not endorse this site built by a 10 year old in his first HTML for Dummies class. One really positive thing that came out of the video is that the chick's singing made Britney's MTV video award show bomb seem like her best comeback ever. Is is against the new rules to call the people on this video total retards? It is. OK how about saying that they are offering enlightenment lessons from the short bus? Still offensive, OK. Let's see, the video reminded me of a Monty Python skit satirizing goofballs making a We understand enlightenment video? Kinda negative huh? OK to conform to the new rules I will say that I loved the video and found it uplifting in every way. I got the Omega shift and now see everything in creation as aspects of my maxi-me and both of the presenters are pieces of my mini-mes, aspects of myself who happen to be total retards. I hope that works.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthetic life skeptics...
New Morning, I think what Alex is suggesting is that details of the species' makeup would be able to confirm or deny that they are indeed new species, as opposed to common bacteria and/or flagellates. A microscopic video and photos are in order, but that will not happen today. Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: the hermaphrodite New Morning whose ambiguous genitalia is none of our business. (although a bit of a medical marvel, I saw a picture on the Web) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Use a microscope instead of a videocam. Hey. They may be small, but a microscope is kind of overdoing it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthetic life skeptics...
carde, All of respiration is a chemical reaction, so the only way to rule out living forms is a further study. Very little is completely ruled out yet. Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey N Cook jnoelcook@ wrote: Well, then how would I film it? Besides, isn't it more eye- opening to be able to see things occur with the naked eye? I mean, I understand that you want a closer look, and I will indeed provide that in time when I somehow aquire the proper film equipment for that. But isn't this at least a good start and a reasonable demonstration? But please, this is great to know what other's are expecting. I didn't think that would be one. Alright, what else? Jeff Is it ruled out that the bubbles are the result of for instance this reaction: C6H12O6 ¨ 2 CH3CH2OH + 2 CO2 (Haven't been following this discussion very thoroughly...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Use a microscope instead of a videocam.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: . Bronte, It might help you to put it in perspective that what I was replying TO when I made that crack was some newbie getting all pompous and trying (in her first post to the forum, no less) to lecture everyone here on how they should conduct themselves, on a forum she had obviously not spent very much time reading. Edg: Turq, this word obviously is not so easily validated. It smacks of an ad hominem attack in that it SEEMS to imply that Bronte has a personality that is not up to Turq's standards of message board scholarship and thus deficient to some degree and in need of fixing. Not necessarily. I think she's acting a little like a car salesman who doesn't recognize that the sale is a done deal, still pitching the sale when she would be better served by keeping quiet and letting the buyers sign on the dotted line. :-) She *made* her point. The vast majority of people here *agreed* with it. But she keeps harping on it. Now is the time (in my *opinion*) to kick back a little and see what happens, not to try to keep preaching. I don't think that the cogency she's shown us thus far deserves this kind of treatment. What kind of treatment? I told it as I see it, and with more than a little restraint. For me. :-) In fact, she told us all that she'd been lurking, so if that's true, her lack of seeing the whole picture that you seem to have comes down to her having a POV different from yours. That is clearly true. Bronte seems to believe that there IS a proper way for people to act on a spiritual forum, and that she should continue lobbying for that proper way. I'm just trying to remind her that the TM movement felt exactly the same way when it imposed all of *its* rules of behavior on her and everyone else here. And that she now feels, in her words, like a victim of that. It's a slippery slope when one starts to mandate behavior. In my opinion the best way to influence behavior is to act oneself the way one is suggesting to others (not *demanding* of others) that they act. Thus my little snippet to MDixon today. I *understand* that he finds curse words distasteful and would like to see fewer of them here. Since I am one of the prime offenders of this particular sin, I just couldn't help pointing out that he has used such words himself in the past, and thus has no real basis on which to criticize others until he lives up to his own suggested rules himself. There's tons of wiggle room in which I can have the thought that Bronte is not a yokel lacking insight and unconcerned about it. To pull a Judy here, you're putting something in quotes that I don't think anyone said, or implied. I know that I certainly didn't say it. I referred to her as a newbie. She is. So, compared to many here, am I. After two years *I* am still learning about this place. People I thought might offer little of value after a year of reading their posts have recently surprised me by posting some intelligent and measured and remarkably well-thought-out stuff. But it really *is* a kind of accepted standard on Net forums that you don't roll into town with guns blazing and expect everyone to pin a Sheriff's badge on you. You kick back for a while, offer up an *example* of what you think proper posting is all about, and *then* you offer a few suggestions. You don't start out with a 90-line post berating an entire forum for not being what you expected it to be. However lite you've been in your labeling, I do feel that, indeed, labeling has occurred. And? Are you going to suggest that labeling is now against the rules, too? Bronte *is* a newbie on this forum, no matter how many others she might have been on. If a ten year old child somehow started posting here, we'd all handle the child with, ahem, kid gloves, ya? Depends on the child. Bronte may indeed need to do more reading to get a feel for this place, but it she were a ten year old who had not read widely enough, the group would throw a cream pie in YOUR face for chiding the child and expecting too much too soon from a starter nervous system. I kinda like cream pies, so no problemo. :-) Bronte is *not* a ten-year-old child. She's an adult who says that she's been around the spiritual block a few times. I think we need to treat each other with this kind of delicacy if we're to turn around the flaming here. And you and I have a different point of view on this subject. That does *not* mean that I consider yours wrong, or mine right, only that I've spent a lot of time pondering this subject. The TM movement -- and many other spiritual traditions -- feel strongly that it should treat the seekers within their organizations as if they are children who need to be protected. The guru or head teacher is kind of a Big Daddy Figure. *He* makes the decisions for the benefit of the children who need to be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthetic life skeptics...
Jeff, My main problem with your presentation is that there is simply no way for you to get from Readers' Point A to Jeff's Point B. It seems there is a way -- it's America and everyone has a chance to win the gold ring, but in fact, it just isn't easy to shake up the world's beliefs. Consider Robert Bussard -- this scientist's attempt to show his concept and get funding and serious attention is a deep lesson for us all, but you especially. Why? Because Bussard has credentials up the yinyang, and he is nonetheless struggling to get funding for his invention. http://tinyurl.com/2c22az On this page, you'll see a link to a video presentation by Bussard. Watch and weep. He presents an iron clad all we need is a bit of money idea that really kicks ass, but even so, he must grind and struggle to get his baby welcomed by the scientific establishment. I cannot think that anyone posting here would have the background to say whether Bussard should be funded or not, but don't miss the point that this video's standards of presentation is exactly what you, Jeff, should aim for. And even then, you're going to struggle -- even more than Bussard has to because you're not a part of the establishment, and you're making claims far far far more astounding than Bussard. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg, It just occured to me tonight how hopelessly naive I have been about something: how difficult it would be to believe the validity of my experiments and the videos with all the nonsense we are fed daily on both the Internet and the Television. It just seems that many have just learned to not believe anything, even when they are looking right at it. I admit, I would be the same. But you made very good comments and I don't think perhaps I responded in the best way. Maybe I didn't explain the answers to your questions. Can you give me a mental picture of how you felt about the demonstration and what I could do better. I really want to move this discovery along, but I do not think I can do this without feedback. So...can you give me a little more feedback, in terms of constructive advice of anyone's ideas as to how to handle this? And I would welcome if from anyone else too...even Mord. ;) Jeff
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can't We All Just Get Along?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/9/07 2:54:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No. The phenomenon experienced in this group which has given rise to the hoo haa on posting guidelines is something that has been seen across the whole Internet and not just limited to FFL. People are just more hostile towards each other nowadays. Perhaps its just a symptom of overpopulation and man's natural instinct to survive. In a more crowded environment people become more defensive of their territory. The divisiveness of the Bush administration has also contributed in the US to more hostility. B. S.! Is that verbotten? It's because people are hiding behind a screen and can't be seen or touched. Just as people are more bold when sitting in the privacy of their car and more prone to give you the finger if you get them P.Oed. Road rage came long before Bush ever took office and so did Cyber rage. Personally, I think it's Clinton's fault:) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Nah, it started with Woodrow Wilson. :) But I'm not talking about when it started but an increase in such activity. Who knows where it will end.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ...as Shemp snickers, amused, from the sidelines
shempmcgurk wrote: Take a look at the silliness this group has become. Intelligent, cogent people debating who and who doesn't get YOUR brand of freedom of speech (which is no freedom of speech at all). How sad. Yup, they must have run out of vata tea. :) It should be mentioned that TMContra is an escape route since it isn't moderated. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
Turq, You defended yourself well below, but.still, I sincerely believe that you had an emotional reaction to Bronte that seems to have been just as strong a dynamic in your responses to her as your conceptual reactions to her thoughts were. The emotional dynamics of your responses color your conceptual responses in a way that diverts the reader's attention from Bronte's concepts to Bronte's personality. If a reader didn't know Bronte, your response to her would be their first impression of her, and, to some small degree, I stand by my contention that you were casting her, indeed, as a yokel lacking insight and unconcerned about it. That was my poem about how you seemed to be coming off -- it was merely my take and I admit it may not be a taking of any sort but could be instead a projection on your words that comes from my own inner fear of being a yokel. Sigh. I know you are committed to being a wild and free rascal that calls it like you see it, and go Turq sez moi, but I think part of trying to improve things here is to be extra sensitive to what damage might occur due to insinuations, subtle labeling and innuendos. Bronte could be what True Believers speak in a hushed tone about -- an old soul, ya know? She might be a butterfly that's about to land on the flowers that bloom in our minds -- a butterfly that will flit off at the first hint of untowardness. If so, our loss. Not that she deserves special privileges but that all of us deserve special privileges -- we's all gots da tender feelings. I certainly see your tender feelings on your sleeves almost all the time. For some reason, I like you, and I cut you a break for being irascible, but as much as I love being a curmudgeon myself, my new anti-bad-feelings persona forbids me from putting on this particular mask if I am to wean myself off of my own ad hominem tendencies. And, to be a sexist about it, there's not enough women posting here, and, yes, I do want more of their influence here. I do think women are quite different from men and see things in ways men know not of, and I am instructed by them far more often than I would want to admit. OTOH, men have a lot to teach too. Balancing FairfieldLife with more femmy stuff could be just the ticket. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: . Bronte, It might help you to put it in perspective that what I was replying TO when I made that crack was some newbie getting all pompous and trying (in her first post to the forum, no less) to lecture everyone here on how they should conduct themselves, on a forum she had obviously not spent very much time reading. Edg: Turq, this word obviously is not so easily validated. It smacks of an ad hominem attack in that it SEEMS to imply that Bronte has a personality that is not up to Turq's standards of message board scholarship and thus deficient to some degree and in need of fixing. Not necessarily. I think she's acting a little like a car salesman who doesn't recognize that the sale is a done deal, still pitching the sale when she would be better served by keeping quiet and letting the buyers sign on the dotted line. :-) She *made* her point. The vast majority of people here *agreed* with it. But she keeps harping on it. Now is the time (in my *opinion*) to kick back a little and see what happens, not to try to keep preaching. I don't think that the cogency she's shown us thus far deserves this kind of treatment. What kind of treatment? I told it as I see it, and with more than a little restraint. For me. :-) In fact, she told us all that she'd been lurking, so if that's true, her lack of seeing the whole picture that you seem to have comes down to her having a POV different from yours. That is clearly true. Bronte seems to believe that there IS a proper way for people to act on a spiritual forum, and that she should continue lobbying for that proper way. I'm just trying to remind her that the TM movement felt exactly the same way when it imposed all of *its* rules of behavior on her and everyone else here. And that she now feels, in her words, like a victim of that. It's a slippery slope when one starts to mandate behavior. In my opinion the best way to influence behavior is to act oneself the way one is suggesting to others (not *demanding* of others) that they act. Thus my little snippet to MDixon today. I *understand* that he finds curse words distasteful and would like to see fewer of them here. Since I am one of the prime offenders of this particular sin, I just couldn't help pointing out that he has used such words himself in the past, and thus has no real basis on which to criticize others until he lives up to his own suggested rules himself. There's tons of wiggle room in which I can have
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You defended yourself well below, but.still, I sincerely believe that you had an emotional reaction to Bronte that seems to have been just as strong a dynamic in your responses to her as your conceptual reactions to her thoughts were. The emotional dynamics of your responses color your conceptual responses in a way that diverts the reader's attention from Bronte's concepts to Bronte's personality. Whatever. You win. I'm bored with the subject. I know you are committed to being a wild and free rascal that calls it like you see it, and go Turq sez moi, but I think part of trying to improve things here is to be extra sensitive to what damage might occur due to insinuations, subtle labeling and innuendos. And as I said before, we disagree. You win. I'm bored with the subject.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rabia lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello dear ones, Found a movie explaining our relationship to God and each other in a super pedagogical way. After seeing this movie all my theological question marks were straightened out. What a tool! (and FREE to watch) (-: http://theomegashift.com/video.html Love, Rabia Actually God is a much better Web designer and does not endorse this site built by a 10 year old in his first HTML for Dummies class. One really positive thing that came out of the video is that the chick's singing made Britney's MTV video award show bomb seem like her best comeback ever. Is is against the new rules to call the people on this video total retards? It is. OK how about saying that they are offering enlightenment lessons from the short bus? Still offensive, OK. Let's see, the video reminded me of a Monty Python skit satirizing goofballs making a We understand enlightenment video? Kinda negative huh? OK to conform to the new rules I will say that I loved the video and found it uplifting in every way. I got the Omega shift and now see everything in creation as aspects of my maxi-me and both of the presenters are pieces of my mini-mes, aspects of myself who happen to be total retards. I hope that works. Your most excellent review has inspired me to view said movie, good chap! And Briteny was amazing last night! A review of her video on youtube made my jaw drop in utter wonder! Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Bronte: snipped: but their insistence on not getting personal in the meetings keep the discussion headed in a productive direction instead of getting bogged down in petty animosities. Auth: Do you have a reference for this? Was a transcript made of the meetings? Bronte, FWIW, and I know this whole discussion has gotten somewhat tired, but often in this stage of the discussion with Judy, things get a little peculiar. Just when you think you might be at an ending point, it keeps on going. Something like this can go on for 25-30 posts. (hence 35/wk posting limit) Judy is just not going to concede ground, and she can parce a dialogue endlessly. That is why I have found it in my best interests to generally let her have the last word, or not engage her, or not get engaged by her. And as so often been mentioned, BE SELECTIVE in which posts and posters you read. lurk Most of these kinds of discussion get tired pretty fast. In fact I don't read most of them. Since I use email instead of the web to use the group these are the kinds of posts that scroll off the right of the pane. It's just one for thing for the obsessive compulsives to obsess over. But it will end soon as most will have blown their 35 post limit on the topic. :)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What a great movie!!! Is is against the new rules to call the people on this video total retards? It is. OK how about saying that they are offering enlightenment lessons from the short bus? Still offensive, OK. Let's see, the video reminded me of a Monty Python skit satirizing goofballs making a We understand enlightenment video? Kinda negative huh? OK to conform to the new rules I will say that I loved the video and found it uplifting in every way. I got the Omega shift and now see everything in creation as aspects of my maxi-me and both of the presenters are pieces of my mini-mes, aspects of myself who happen to be total retards. I hope that works. LOL! Already the new rules are paying off by upping the humor ante. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: 9/9/2007 10:17 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
Duveyoung wrote: Bronte could be what True Believers speak in a hushed tone about -- an old soul, ya know? She might be a butterfly that's about to land on the flowers that bloom in our minds -- a butterfly that will flit off at the first hint of untowardness. If so, our loss. Old souls are usually very strong and can stand on their own two feet. Whatever trends discussion might take on this group would not bother them at all. After all, an old soul has seen it all and are by no means wusses. They would probably just get a laugh about things here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Synthetic life skeptics...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey N Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then how would I film it? Here's a $100 method to film it with a PC at up to 200x magnification: http://digiblue.com/digital_blue/qx5.html Besides, isn't it more eye-opening to be able to see things occur with the naked eye? I mean, I understand that you want a closer look, and I will indeed provide that in time when I somehow aquire the proper film equipment for that. But isn't this at least a good start and a reasonable demonstration? Maybe it actually is more impressive literally with the naked eye. As in actually being in the room, seeing the stuff up close with the naked eye. However, the view from the 'net, on YouTube, is far less impressive. There's no way to determine from those videos that the stuff in the container is a lifeform. But please, this is great to know what other's are expecting. I didn't think that would be one. Alright, what else? Jeff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Use a microscope instead of a videocam.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can't We All Just Get Along?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, it started with Woodrow Wilson. :) But I'm not talking about when it started but an increase in such activity. Who knows where it will end. I've had a hypothesis for awhile that with the emergence of instant communications, along with the growing interest in inner discovery (through meditation-- mantra and guided, hatha yoga, drugs,etc.)that layers of humanity are being successively and very publicly peeled away on global cultural, economic, medical, pychological, social and political levels. This has exposed a lot more of us, to us, similar to what happens on a forum like this everyday, only mutiplied a billion times. The initial results in coping with all of us in effect becoming more powerful, has been an awkward, at times hostile, flexing of those new abilities with each other. Some have seen it as a way to quickly fulfill dark desires. Others use it to get their messages out, no matter what the effect on populations at large. In any case, there is a lot of initial roughness associated with this new paradigm of human being and interaction. Hopefully it will soon quiet down and become more fully integrated.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What is your objection to long-running discussions anyway? That's the only way to hash out complicated issues, and this one is certainly important to the group. If they bore you, don't read them. But don't try to dissuade others from participating by gratuitously attacking one of the participants. Ok lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Edg The Antiflamer I simply love your new role. But we are, I am sorry to say, UNWORTY, of such euridtie responses. BTW, how could you lurk so long without jumping in? I could only last a week, before I had to post. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Turqy and Lurky and Doc, oh my! (Re: New Policy and updated guidelines)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip She may seem to be beating a dead horse, but every lash lands exactly on the the spot on the carcass she targets. I hate that! I have the deepest hopes that Judy will begin to tell us of the flowers of life with equal precision. Edg The Flameless Gorgeous. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Curtis slyly slips along the flaming precipice (Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The key concept in my opinion is expressed as this question: Has the writer put the reader's attention on negativity? You've done that below. Funny, ya, but. Edg the No-Flames-Allowed Message Board Guy WE ARE NOT WORTHY, but I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts. lurk _ ___ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp? a=7
[FairfieldLife] Re: What a great movie!!!!!!!
Peter wrote: One really positive thing that came out of the video is that the chick's singing made Britney's MTV video award show bomb seem like her best comeback ever. LAS VEGAS - Out-of-synch lip-synching. Lethargic movements that seemed choreographed by a dance instructor for a nursing home. Read more: 'MTV Awards flourish despite Britney bomb' By Nekesa Moody Associated Press, Mon Sep 10 http://tinyurl.com/3adnwt
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: You defended yourself well below, but.still, I sincerely believe that you had an emotional reaction to Bronte that seems to have been just as strong a dynamic in your responses to her as your conceptual reactions to her thoughts were. The emotional dynamics of your responses color your conceptual responses in a way that diverts the reader's attention from Bronte's concepts to Bronte's personality. Whatever. You win. I'm bored with the subject. I know you are committed to being a wild and free rascal that calls it like you see it, and go Turq sez moi, but I think part of trying to improve things here is to be extra sensitive to what damage might occur due to insinuations, subtle labeling and innuendos. And as I said before, we disagree. You win. I'm bored with the subject. Edg, Turq's funny bone must be bruised today or something. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
Duveyoung wrote: Turq, If a reader didn't know Bronte, your response to her would be their first impression of her, and, to some small degree, I stand by my contention that you were casting her, indeed, as a yokel lacking insight and unconcerned about it. Yokel? Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Barry Wright (Uncle Tantra) Date: Mon, Jul 7 2003 2:21 am Subject: Re: LIES About TM: a research project http://tinyurl.com/z2aag Take your head and turn it as far to the right as possible and look around. Now do the same thing, turning to the left. Now look up and down. Notice the same odd, dull, brownish tint that you see in all directions? That's because your head is up your ass, Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher
In a message dated 9/10/07 7:15:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED], MDi I've got a better idea. Stick to the 35 post limit and disallow any so called *four letter words* or curse words. This will clean up the dialogue and allow everyone interested, to post their ideas and thoughts for all to see. Ahem. A *very* quick search reveals that you are not above using the four-letter words 'shit' and 'piss' and calling someone a 'dumb ass' yourself. While I understand your aversion to these words, even though I don't agree with it, it might be nice to remove the beam from thine own eye before picking nits out of other people's eyes. And, for the record, some of us find people who use asterisks to hide what they're really saying *far* more offensive than those who use the words themselves. Is there anyone who doesn't pronounce the words sh*t and f*ck in their heads when they read them written that way? You have a tendency to do this in your posts, too. It's just a way of pretending not to curse when you really are. Ahem ahem, Notice I never said that I have never used *four letter* words when posting on this list, but it is rare, not a tendency. When I do, I'll spell it out for all to read. So, I'm not sticking anybody in the eye. I'm just suggesting that if you want to clean up the dialogue, we can all do without the occasional curse words and it would be far easier to monitor than trying to decide if somebody is being PC enough. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] Rick -- a flaming has definitely happened (Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
Rick, Please advise me if your wisdom concludes that the below is a flame post. I believe it is. However, it is indirect in that a quote, from a July post, contains the offending text. As a concerned FairfieldLife citizen, I suggest that you issue a warning to Willytex if he included the offending text on purpose. Edg the guy who can spot a flame even under 20 mattresses. Willytex, Did you really mean to include your July post to Barry in your response to my post? Could you elaborate on why you questioned the word yokel. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Turq, If a reader didn't know Bronte, your response to her would be their first impression of her, and, to some small degree, I stand by my contention that you were casting her, indeed, as a yokel lacking insight and unconcerned about it. Yokel? Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Barry Wright (Uncle Tantra) Date: Mon, Jul 7 2003 2:21 am Subject: Re: LIES About TM: a research project http://tinyurl.com/z2aag Take your head and turn it as far to the right as possible and look around. Now do the same thing, turning to the left. Now look up and down. Notice the same odd, dull, brownish tint that you see in all directions? That's because your head is up your ass, Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
In a message dated 9/10/07 2:53:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before. What kind of light do you shine through the gem stones? Is it artificial light or natural sun light? I thought the Vaidyas told M to stop messing with the marmas, thus no more marama therapy. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] SA TM campus dumps TM integration
http://free.financialmail.co.za/07/0907/fox/bfox.htm 07 September 2007 CIDA CITY CAMPUS A rethink of boundaries By Stuart Theobald Cida City Campus - the much-lauded, nearly free university in Johannesburg - is to get a management shake-up following a review of its education and governance structures. The shake-up will also deal with Cida's controversial use of transcendental meditation (TM). Executive chairman and Cida cofounder Richard Peycke is leaving. He is a proponent of TM and will now focus full-time on TM-related activities. Charismatic Cida director Taddy Blecher, also a TM proponent, will be taking the role of group CEO, but will leave the educational responsibilities to a newly created position of dean. Peycke would not return calls to the FM. A coup for Cida is the arrival of Michael Hay, formerly deputy dean of the London Business School and a highly respected management academic, who will serve as acting dean until year-end. A full-time dean will be sought by a committee le d by UCT vice- chancellor Njabulo Ndebele. The shake-up follows reviews of Cida's activities, chiefly by Investec, one of Cida's funders. The board also undertook a review process. In order to take Cida to the next level of operational excellence we have really had to look at it to decide how it should be run, says Investec director David Lawrence, who will be acting chairman pending a full-time appointment. Despite the decision to make TM voluntary for students some years ago, sponsors have continued to worry about the religious/spiritual activities at the school. Our concern, like that of many other donors, related to the fact that there was a spiritual ideology being imposed on students. We felt the two issues needed to be separated - the issue of education and spirituality or religion, says Zohra Dawood, executive director of the Open Society Foundation, which provides Cida with funding of R2m/year. Dawood hastens to add that we think it is a very good education model - it is innovative, it targets the right constituency. Cida has now developed an educational position statement to define its model, particularly regarding academic excellence and quality, as well as personal development and the use of TM. Lawrence says any formal contractual ties to TM organisations, which included regular payments, have been cut, though TM will remain an option for students.
[FairfieldLife] Question for Bob and Doc (Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy)
Bob/Doc, Are you up on it enough to comment about the concept using drugs to evolve? I read the book, The Master Game, which suggests that drug experiences can give insights, but it concludes that only a non-drug approach can make these insights an all time reality. One drug that I've heard of that is described by users of it as quite spiritual is salvia divinorum. http://tinyurl.com/mfpv is the link to a detailed description of the drug. I would be afraid of trying it, but it does seem to impact the users in an evolutionary way that, after the drug has worn off, leaves at least some psychological echoes that benefit one's world view. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] Question for Bob and Doc (Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob/Doc, Are you up on it enough to comment about the concept using drugs to evolve? I read the book, The Master Game, which suggests that drug experiences can give insights, but it concludes that only a non-drug approach can make these insights an all time reality. One drug that I've heard of that is described by users of it as quite spiritual is salvia divinorum. http://tinyurl.com/mfpv is the link to a detailed description of the drug. I would be afraid of trying it, but it does seem to impact the users in an evolutionary way that, after the drug has worn off, leaves at least some psychological echoes that benefit one's world view. Edg *** I'm sure that the mushroom Cordyceps is not psychotropic, but it being used for some properties useful to the nervous system other than hallucenogenic, like amanita muscara mushroom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] Question for Bob and Doc (Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy)
Salvia is legal so far. It is the most annoying drug ever. There are a bunch of idiots on youtube smoking it on camera if you are wondering about the insights it gives a person's world view. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob/Doc, Are you up on it enough to comment about the concept using drugs to evolve? I read the book, The Master Game, which suggests that drug experiences can give insights, but it concludes that only a non-drug approach can make these insights an all time reality. One drug that I've heard of that is described by users of it as quite spiritual is salvia divinorum. http://tinyurl.com/mfpv is the link to a detailed description of the drug. I would be afraid of trying it, but it does seem to impact the users in an evolutionary way that, after the drug has worn off, leaves at least some psychological echoes that benefit one's world view. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/07 2:53:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before. What kind of light do you shine through the gem stones? Is it artificial light or natural sun light? I thought the Vaidyas told M to stop messing with the marmas, thus no more marama therapy. *** I can't see any difference between artificial light or sun light. Each frequency (color) of light is produced by an electron stepping down to a lower level and emitting a photon characteristic of that atom, so what difference would it make whether these photons come from the sun or from any other generator of photons? ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/10/07 2:53:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before. What kind of light do you shine through the gem stones? Is it artificial light or natural sun light? I thought the Vaidyas told M to stop messing with the marmas, thus no more marama therapy. Sorry mate, it was the other way around. The Vaidyas kept touching the marmas and MMY just shut the whole thing down. Apparently touching them could aggrevate all sort of sideeffects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ...as Shemp snickers, amused, from the sidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Take a look at the silliness this group has become. Intelligent, cogent people debating who and who doesn't get YOUR brand of freedom of speech (which is no freedom of speech at all). How sad. Yup, they must have run out of vata tea. :) It should be mentioned that TMContra is an escape route since it isn't moderated. :) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/ It's nothing but spammers and Rakshasa Von EgoHosen!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...as Shemp snickers, amused, from the sidelines
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Take a look at the silliness this group has become. Intelligent, cogent people debating who and who doesn't get YOUR brand of freedom of speech (which is no freedom of speech at all). How sad. Yup, they must have run out of vata tea. :) It should be mentioned that TMContra is an escape route since it isn't moderated. :) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/ It's nothing but spammers and Rakshasa Von EgoHosen! Yup and ripe for taking over. :)
[FairfieldLife] Question for Bob and Doc (Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salvia is legal so far. It is the most annoying drug ever. There are a bunch of idiots on youtube smoking it on camera if you are wondering about the insights it gives a person's world view. Wow, I can't think of a more effective PSA against using salvia than those YouTube vids.
[FairfieldLife] Join Me in Saving Whales: An Urgent Message from James Taylor
http://www.nrdconline.org/campaign/Act_Now_To_Save_The_Whales Dear FairfieldLife participant, The Navy's sonic assault on whales should be stopped immediately. I'm asking for your help to make it happen. Let me be clear: I have the deepest respect for the U.S. Navy. When I was growing up, my father was a doctor and commander in the Navy. His role in helping to establish a base at the South Pole in 1957, as part of the International Geophysical Year, had a lifelong impact on me. We loved the Navy because it helped win World War II. But we also loved the Navy because it was a leader in the scientific study of the natural world. That's why I feel so strongly that today's Navy should be using its vast resources to protect not just our nation but the health of our planet’s oceans as well. And it's why I am so distressed by the acoustic onslaught the Navy is now waging beneath our planet's oceans -- an onslaught known to kill whales with dangerous mid-frequency sound waves. Mid-frequency sonar is designed to detect enemy submarines. The Navy's warships deploy underwater speakers that blast the ocean with noise in excess of 235 decibels -- a sonic barrage roughly comparable to a Saturn V rocket at blast-off. That explosive level of noise can cause whales -- who have an exquisite sense of hearing -- to panic, surface too quickly, and hemorrhage internally. Many beached whales have been found bleeding around their brains and ears after their fatal encounters with military sonar. Imagine a sound so disorienting or so painful that you jump out of the sea and die on the beach rather than be subjected to it for another minute! From a whale's point of view, the Navy's sonic assault must seem like torture. But that torture isn't just cruel, it's unnecessary. You see, the Navy could adopt simple safety measures when training with sonar that would prevent the needless infliction of pain and death on these magnificent animals. For example, the Navy could avoid marine habitats where whales are known to migrate, feed, and raise their young. These common-sense precautions would not compromise military readiness. But the Navy refuses. So the maiming and killing of whales goes on. This callousness toward nature -- toward the ocean itself -- does not reflect the Navy I grew up with. We deserve better. And, as Americans, it's our right to demand better. Our message is simple: Whales should not have to die for military practice. Please join me and millions of other people in getting that message to the U.S. Navy and to Congress. Then please help us build a nationwide outcry by forwarding this message to your friends and family members who would want to know about the Navy's reckless assault on whales and other marine life. Let's not wait for hundreds, or even thousands, more whales to suffer and die. Please stand with me in demanding a more humane Navy right now. Sincerely, James Taylor NRDC Action Fund High-intensity sonar, designed to detect enemy submarines, blasts whales with a sonic barrage that is billions of times more intense than sound levels known to disturb them. As a result, hundreds of whales have beached themselves and died in the Bahamas, Greece, the Canary Islands, Japan and other sites around the world. Many stranded whales have been found bleeding around their brains and ears after their fatal encounters with sonar systems. The scientists of the International Whaling Commission have declared that “overwhelming” evidence points to mid-frequency sonar as the culprit behind such terrible -- and avoidable -- deaths. Despite these dangers – and its own admission that sonar can kill whales -- the Navy plans to put a training range for lethal mid- frequency sonar right next to a key migratory route for endangered right whales -- off the coast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. The Navy’s new Atlantic Undersea Warfare Training Range would create a 500-square-mile hub of sonar activity -- assaulting whales, dolphins and other marine life with a year-round barrage of deafening sound. Meanwhile, the Navy’s refusal to adopt simple whale-protection measures when training with sonar is a flagrant violation of our nation’s environmental laws. Such measures would not compromise military readiness. Our partner organization, NRDC, is fighting in federal court to force the Navy to take humane precautions when training with mid-frequency sonar throughout U.S. waters and beyond. In a separate legal effort, NRDC filed suit this year to compel the U.S. Navy to protect whales and other marine life during two years of major sonar exercises off the southern California coast. Navy officials have announced that they will defy the California Coastal Commission’s recommendation that Navy ships take commonsense safety measures while blasting thousands of square nautical miles of ocean with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
In a message dated 9/10/07 3:27:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can't see any difference between artificial light or sun light. Each frequency (color) of light is produced by an electron stepping down to a lower level and emitting a photon characteristic of that atom, so what difference would it make whether these photons come from the sun or from any other generator of photons? Just messin' with your head. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[FairfieldLife] Truth
from Perfect Madness, from awakening to enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell page 121: The third eye is the beacon to the inner universe that sees the inner and outer as inseparable. This eye sees all creation as unified and yet permits one to operate within the world of complexities and multitudes. The opening of the third eye is the opening of knowledge, which is understanding and experiencing---in unison---life's phenomena. When the third eye opens, the intellect and the emotions, thoughts and feelings, can finally work together--as one. The opening of the third eye is the pure and simple cognitive ability to see living Truth, unfettered and pure. Truth is not something we can put our finger on or file away as real or pertinent. It cannot even be written or talked about with any accuracy, for words are only pointers. The most amazing thing about the opening of the third eye is that it sees Truth as alive. Untouched by human intellect, unstirred by emotion, and undivided in its purpose. Truth is the living principle upon which the universe was and is created.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Policy and updated guidelines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take your head and turn it as far to the right as possible and look around. Now do the same thing, turning to the left. Now look up and down. Notice the same odd, dull, brownish tint that you see in all directions? That's because your head is up your ass, It passes the flame test. But I gotta admit, it passes the pretty damn funny test as well. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth
--Excellent, thanks for thissounds like the voice of direct experience. Helpful would be some of the symptoms along the way, as well as a list of entities the person saw or heard in the form of subtle sounds; that could be taken as signposts along the way to a complete breakthrough. This would include visions of the Radiant form of the Guru, if any. In the Sant Mat Tradition (which almost exclusively emphasizes the 3-rd opening), visions of the Guru are considered to be the foremost indicator of a success, along with hearing various manifestation of the Sound Current. Charlie Lutes told me he could tune into the OM at will. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Perfect Madness, from awakening to enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell page 121: The third eye is the beacon to the inner universe that sees the inner and outer as inseparable. This eye sees all creation as unified and yet permits one to operate within the world of complexities and multitudes. The opening of the third eye is the opening of knowledge, which is understanding and experiencing---in unison---life's phenomena. When the third eye opens, the intellect and the emotions, thoughts and feelings, can finally work together--as one. The opening of the third eye is the pure and simple cognitive ability to see living Truth, unfettered and pure. Truth is not something we can put our finger on or file away as real or pertinent. It cannot even be written or talked about with any accuracy, for words are only pointers. The most amazing thing about the opening of the third eye is that it sees Truth as alive. Untouched by human intellect, unstirred by emotion, and undivided in its purpose. Truth is the living principle upon which the universe was and is created.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Truth Thanks Tom 4 that input
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
Jason, I have the quick bursts of pain of trigeminal neuropathy about 3 times a year, for just a few seconds. They always occur along the left side of my neck/jaw. The pain is intense,, but thankfully brief. If you have this often, I can only imagine how awful that must be. My neice had it so bad and so often that surgery was performed (which worked). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a psychologist. I'm sorry that I can't help you -Peter --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Pete, I've been suffering from Trigeminal Neuropathy since 1999. The attacks were very severe in 1999, 2000, 2001. The symptoms have subsided for the past few years. My allopathic Doctor has put me on Gabapentin and Clonazepham. He said Alchohol chould not be taken under any circumstances while on these drugs as it would damage the liver permanantly. He said that Neuropathy occurs if there is 'kidney problem' or 'Vascular disorders' or 'Auto-Immune disorders' I have vascular disorder. I ruptured a vein in my left testes twice. First while playing tennis ruptured it inside the testes and second while getting down from a bike ruptured the same vein above the left testes in the left groin. I tore a ligament in my tibia while running and continued running not realising the seriousness of the injury and a major vein in my leg became varicated. Even doctors dont understand how this happened. Both Gabapentin and Clonazepham completely depresses the Sexual function and errection. You can call me an artificial bramachari. Are there any other medicines to treat Trigeminal Neuropathy and Peripheral Neuropathy.?? I would like your opinion on this. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic b. A vocal tic characterized by the phrase, Jai Guru Dev. c. A partial facial paralysis resulting in a permanent blissful smile with soft focused eyes. d. A delusional/hysteric al condition of believing one no longer has genitals and if genitals are admitted to, then no understanding of their sexual function. e. A delusional obsession that one's narrative. explanation of existence (supreme knowledge) is superior to all others regardless of the practical consequences of these obsessions (i.e., poverty, poor health, failed relationships, etc.) - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy
Cordyceps is absolutely not psychoactive, it has the effect of strengthening the body. The way it would aid evolution of consciousness is by strengthening the physiology generally so that the kundalini can be generated. It you do a search on Cordyceps you will see that it isn't psychoactive at all. The other great eastern mushroom , Reishi is a more likely candidate for promoting transcendance, and the Taoists use it for this purpose. I have used both and found Reishi to be very good for TM. It does give me a side-effect sometimes though, but few people would find any side-effect from it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anon from Vlodrop: * One such product involves the old formulation from east Asia, in the form of certain mushroom Cordyceps. It has been known for a long time, that this preparation is very good for treating so many health disorders. But the problem so far has been in properly purifying them. The newest distillation processes from the West came to the rescue, including vacuum evaporation. We had the privilege to try some of these products (called SIGCESS), and we found them to be very useful for the spiritual development as well. These benefits have been known in so many monasteries in Asia in the past. (Shining gemstones on Marma Points) Another new therapy is being offered on the campus, it involves shining the light through the gemstones, on the main marma points of the body. Each of the main marma points has a specific gemstone associated with it, and by shining special light through the gemstones on these points, they get enlivened. This in turn helps the vital energy to flow in the body, which brings about better health. We have tried this therapy too, and we found it to be the most powerful external intervention so far, that helps in spiritual development. Our experiences in the program are much clearer and due to better upward energy flow through the main marma points, we have some new experiences, like never before.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic * This MAPI recipe for cannellini calls for 4 tbs of garlic ghee: http://mapi.com/en/recipes/gingercannelini.html Onions are apparently not totally out of the question, either: http://mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_soup_recipes.html My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference.
[FairfieldLife] Question for Bob and Doc (Re: Magic mushrooms, light/gemstone therapy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Salvia is legal so far. It is the most annoying drug ever. There are a bunch of idiots on youtube smoking it on camera if you are wondering about the insights it gives a person's world view. Wow, I can't think of a more effective PSA against using salvia than those YouTube vids. They look real awakened don't they!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference. I thought householders in the TMO were not supposed to have relations more than once a year and then only to procreate, in which case they better watch their rajasic intake as well. --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic * This MAPI recipe for cannellini calls for 4 tbs of garlic ghee: http://mapi.com/en/recipes/gingercannelini.html Onions are apparently not totally out of the question, either: http://mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_soup_recipes.html My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference. I thought householders in the TMO were not supposed to have relations more than once a year and then only to procreate, in which case they better watch their rajasic intake as well. ** The TMO does not extend social advice to householders like it does to Purusha/MD, so this traditional Vedic-culture advice of limiting the nasty to oncet/year is only given out in the U.S. by groups like the Hare Krishna people (one of my students in L.A. was a member of the HK temple there, and this was one of the many social guidelines handed out, though frequently ignored -- in fact, the temple lost a huge Catholic-church style kiddie-diddler lawsuit that put a serious crimp in activities http://www.cultsoncampus.com/harekrishna.html http://iskcon.krishna.org/Articles/2001/12/023.html ). --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic * This MAPI recipe for cannellini calls for 4 tbs of garlic ghee: http://mapi.com/en/recipes/gingercannelini.html Onions are apparently not totally out of the question, either: http://mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_soup_recipes.html My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth
--- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie Lutes told me he could tune into the OM at will. Charlie said a lot of sh*t that we now realize was sh*t! We loved the old coot, but many take his tales with a grain of salt now. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Perfect Madness, from awakening to enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell page 121: The third eye is the beacon to the inner universe that sees the inner and outer as inseparable. This eye sees all creation as unified and yet permits one to operate within the world of complexities and multitudes. The opening of the third eye is the opening of knowledge, which is understanding and experiencing---in unison---life's phenomena. When the third eye opens, the intellect and the emotions, thoughts and feelings, can finally work together--as one. The opening of the third eye is the pure and simple cognitive ability to see living Truth, unfettered and pure. Truth is not something we can put our finger on or file away as real or pertinent. It cannot even be written or talked about with any accuracy, for words are only pointers. The most amazing thing about the opening of the third eye is that it sees Truth as alive. Untouched by human intellect, unstirred by emotion, and undivided in its purpose. Truth is the living principle upon which the universe was and is created. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
Well, what do you know, I suffer occasionally from the same thing. Never knew it had a name. Mine's in the lower left jaw behind the jaw joint. Have it several times a year. An ice pick of the most excruciating pain turning on and off for a few minutes. Few times a year. If I don't get enough sleep it occurs. Not a nice experience at all. Wayback, you and I have it at the same frequency. And Jason, sorry to hear that you have this. Most unpleasant. --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, I have the quick bursts of pain of trigeminal neuropathy about 3 times a year, for just a few seconds. They always occur along the left side of my neck/jaw. The pain is intense,, but thankfully brief. If you have this often, I can only imagine how awful that must be. My neice had it so bad and so often that surgery was performed (which worked). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a psychologist. I'm sorry that I can't help you -Peter --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Pete, I've been suffering from Trigeminal Neuropathy since 1999. The attacks were very severe in 1999, 2000, 2001. The symptoms have subsided for the past few years. My allopathic Doctor has put me on Gabapentin and Clonazepham. He said Alchohol chould not be taken under any circumstances while on these drugs as it would damage the liver permanantly. He said that Neuropathy occurs if there is 'kidney problem' or 'Vascular disorders' or 'Auto-Immune disorders' I have vascular disorder. I ruptured a vein in my left testes twice. First while playing tennis ruptured it inside the testes and second while getting down from a bike ruptured the same vein above the left testes in the left groin. I tore a ligament in my tibia while running and continued running not realising the seriousness of the injury and a major vein in my leg became varicated. Even doctors dont understand how this happened. Both Gabapentin and Clonazepham completely depresses the Sexual function and errection. You can call me an artificial bramachari. Are there any other medicines to treat Trigeminal Neuropathy and Peripheral Neuropathy.?? I would like your opinion on this. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Inspiring Visit to Baba Muktananda Axis II disorders are refered to as the characterological or personality disorders. These are chronic and egosyntonic and much more subtle and more difficult to diagnose that the Axis I disorders. Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: a. A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic b. A vocal tic characterized by the phrase, Jai Guru Dev. c. A partial facial paralysis resulting in a permanent blissful smile with soft focused eyes. d. A delusional/hysteric al condition of believing one no longer has genitals and if genitals are admitted to, then no understanding of their sexual function. e. A delusional obsession that one's narrative. explanation of existence (supreme knowledge) is superior to all others regardless of the practical consequences of these obsessions (i.e., poverty, poor health, failed relationships, etc.) - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: [FairfieldLife] Turqy and Lurky and Doc, oh my! (Re: New Policy and updated guidelines)
Okay, who the f*ck is the liar in the group? Come on, you liar! --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip She may seem to be beating a dead horse, but every lash lands exactly on the the spot on the carcass she targets. I hate that! I have the deepest hopes that Judy will begin to tell us of the flowers of life with equal precision. Edg The Flameless Gorgeous. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[FairfieldLife] Turqy and Lurky and Doc, oh my! (Re: New Policy and updated guidelines)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, who the f*ck is the liar in the group? Come on, you liar! Easy answer for a liar, its me!:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attention Dr. PETE
Dr Pete wrote: Vaj is making quite a funny when he writes Axis II TM/TMSP Practioner disorder. Symptoms include: A paranoid dislike of onions and garlic Bob Brigante wrote: My guess is that celibates are recommended a diet free of garlic/onions, but for householders, it does not make much difference. MAPI discusses the issue of bad foods, under the heading of behavioural rasayana http://www.mapi.com/en/newsletters/ayurvedic_behavioral_rasayanas.html Tamasic foods are the opposite of saatvic - they break down the coordination between mind and body and inhibit the experience of pure consciousness. They create darkness rather than light. Tamasic foods include alcohol, garlic, onions, red meat, leftovers, and packaged foods, which have little life force. Anyone who wishes to practice Achara (Behavioural) Rasayana should avoid them.
[FairfieldLife] mushrooms and such
looks like this sigcess product is not just Cordyceps but has Reishi as well as others (Lingchi=Reishi) http://www.alvitan.com/vcart/eshop_cmd.php?Lang=EngOperation=ShowProductSKU=1612
