[FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have modified the program to look for messages beginning at 0 hours GMT (or UTC) on Saturdays. Currently that for Fairfield would be 7 PM CDT the Friday before and 5 PM PDT. When you go to the Fairfield Life web page without logging in you will get the UTC time for the message. When logged in you get the time adjusted to your zone. If the start time was 0 hours Saturdays Central Time it is a little difficult to adjust the program for users in different parts of the world. The GMT starting time is much easier and more consistent. It should be easier to remember too. But it's also completely meaningless. With all due respect for your efforts, dude, you didn't read the spec. The *definition* of when the posting week starts is midnight Friday *Fairfield time*. No other time zone even enters into the picture. All you have to do is count the posts for the week using *that* time, and everyone -- no matter where they live -- has an accurate count of their posts for the week. As you have defined it above, they do not.
[FairfieldLife] Who do you love?
I walked 47 miles of barbed wire, Use a cobra snake for a neck tie. Got a brand new house on the roadside, Made out of rattlesnake hide. I got a brand new chimney made on top, Made out of human skulls. Now come on darling let's take a little walk, tell me, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love. Realplayer obituary from NPR: http://tinyurl.com/5e8mmt Who do I love? Bo Diddley, that's who. Bo used to live a suburb of Albuquerque, where he was for a time the sheriff (Bo Diddley is a gunslinger.). He used to play in the Santa Fe area often, and was a real treat to see. I have to list him as among the best live performers I have ever seen. His schtick during the time I saw him was that he didn't even have a band of his own. When someone asked him to play a gig, Bo would make some calls and find out the name of the best local band in the area and give them a call and ask if they wanted to back him up. Who is going to say no to being asked to perform with a legend? Bo would ask the kids in the band to learn as many of his songs as they could, and then they'd get together before the gig for no more than a few minutes at a sound check, and then go onstage and wing it. The result was never anything less than professional and wonderful. At 74 or so, the last time I saw him, Bo was still a *ferocious* guitarist. He could play any style well, and did. And he was light-hearted and not afraid to make fun of himself and his own image. He often did versions of his own songs as performed by a Las Vegas lounge singer -- now *that* was a hoot. Onstage he was raunchy and funny and more than any- thing else, ALIVE. His music, which helped to define rock and roll, will keep him that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzn7VyoqEw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XkjBVnpos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHgqtC02Qt0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1Mk6U5zVY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdDomMm0o4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcJNle7TY8U
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Very borglike on the part of some Islamic fundies (although they are not by any means representative of all of Islam, just as Xtain fundies, numerous as they are, do not represent all of Christianity), just like European Christians who fought -- how many was it again? -- There were many different crusades. The most important and biggest Crusades happened from the 11th century to the 13th century. There were 9 big Crusades in this time. They are numbered 1 through 9. There were also many smaller Crusades. Some crusades were even within Europe (for example, in Spain and France). The smaller Crusades continued to the 16th century, until the Renaissance and Reformation. The thing you are leaving out, Bob, is that two of these Crusades were against *fellow Christians*, the Cathars. The two Albigensian Crusades were for the specific purpose of practicing genocide against fellow Christians who deviated from the Roman dogma and refused to acknowledge Rome as authority. Not to mention conquest of territory and theft of their property. The Crusaders and the Inquisition killed an estimated 250,000 of them in the name of God. The three things promised to Crusaders -- their enlistment bonus, as it were -- were: 1) guaranteed Heaven...nothing they had done previously in life or for the rest of their lives would be considered a sin; 2) they could keep anything they could steal; and 3) while any member of their family was on Crusade, none of their debts could be collected. The last promise was the reason that most families in Europe signed up one or more of their sons for the Crusades; they were in hock up to their eyeballs, and were anxious for those debts not to be collected. I'm not arguing with your premise that Christians have as bad or worse a history of warfare and genocide as Muslims and Jews; I'm merely pointing out a detail, that their real *reasons* for the genocide and warfare were neither altruistic nor limited to one opposing religion. It was a case of us vs. them, with them being anyone who stood in the way of us getting what they wanted. The word Crusade is related to the word Cross, and means a Christian holy war. See above. How holy were the Crusades in reality? Well, those gawdam Cathars had it coming to them, but otherwise not so much.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:27 PM, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:00 PM, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:21 PM, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Full length English version now on Google Video. Learn some history on the Religion of Peace in this controversial documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781 Link Everything you've always wanted to know about Islam but were afraid to ask. The feature documentary that discovers the basis of Muslim violence in the Koran and the life of Muhammad. When you consider the centuries and centuries of brutal warfare and exploitation by so-called Christians against other Xtians and other peoples, it's ridiculous to characterize Muslims as being any more violent, either in scripture or in historical fact, than Christians or Jews. Read the Bibles' Numbers 31, in which Moses ordered the slaughter of an entire group, allowing only the virgin girls to live: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html The thing I came away from in this movie was not really about warfare or violence, but more about societal engineering in old style Islam. For example I never knew that it is a Koranic injunction that when there is a battle, say over a particular piece of land, that you can never surrender. You can have a cease fire, but this is only to regroup and then re-assert yourselves. And once land is majority Islamic, it is to remain so till the whole world is consumed. That is the definition of peace: world domination. It was filled with all sorts of root reasons that they do what they do--and it's frightening; it's as if it's a religious virus living in the modern age, imported from a completely different stage of human growth--certainly compared to the west. Very borg like. *** Very borglike on the part of some Islamic fundies (although they are not by any means representative of all of Islam, just as Xtain fundies, numerous as they are, do not represent all of Christianity), just like European Christians who fought -- how many was it again? -- There were many different crusades. The most important and biggest Crusades happened from the 11th century to the 13th century. There were 9 big Crusades in this time. They are numbered 1 through 9. There were also many smaller Crusades. Some crusades were even within Europe (for example, in Spain and France). The smaller Crusades continued to the 16th century, until the Renaissance and Reformation. The word Crusade is related to the word Cross, and means a Christian holy war. There is also the Arabic word Jihad, referring to a holy war fought by Muslims. All sides (Christians, Muslims, and Jews) believed very much in their religions. They also had political reasons for fighting. The strong belief made people less able to understand other people during times when there was no peace. The Crusades and Jihads caused very much loss of life and property for all sides. Much of the conflict between religions today is still partly from the Crusades and Jihads. The Crusades led to the bloodshed of many innocent people and it affected peoples views forever http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades If you don't think that there is a substantial strain of U.S. Christians who do not continue to believe in world domination as back in the Crusade days, think again. It's just couched in other terms, like the war on terror, or other nonsense -- Dumbya did in fact use the word crusade to describe his campaign: http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html Did you watch the movie from beginning to end? * I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. What part of the movie would that have been? I must have missed it. Prominently featured on the google video site is a link to World Ahead Publishing, a fundie extreme rightist group with a number of hysterical titles like their panic attack over Canada and Mexico: It sounds like the answer is no, you didn't watch the movie. What is it with people reviewing movies they've never seen?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. Vaj has been posting hate material here against Islam and other non-Christian religions for some time; I don't know why anybody should be surprised that he doesn't get the point. Actually I watched the movie so I do get the point. Interesting comment from someone who the vast majority of her posts is hate mail! No, I have not posted hate material, but I have posted material that most liberals like yourself might not like. Posts may be posted for counterpoint and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the poster. Therefore, if you see hate in something that was posted, I suggest you check your own heart. It's often best to watch a movie before deciding what it's about, but I think you've been told that before.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm with Ruth on this one. I have seen no evidence that getting one's negative emotions out really gets them out. In fact, I have seen ample evidence that those who give expression to their negative emotions tend to keep on doing it, and with the *same* recurring emotions. So I think the Tibetan model is onto something. Barry, I hate to disappoint you, but I'm afraid that agreement with Ruth on this point does not constitute disagreement with me. I wasn't going to bother to reply to this, but in light of Vaj's recent comment about hate mail, I will. I wasn't *speaking* to you, Judy. I was replying -- belatedly, perhaps -- to Ruth's comments that she didn't believe in the value of catharsis. I was seeking only to provide another point of view (that of Tibetan Buddhism) which agrees with her (as do I), and some background material on that point of view. All you saw in it was an invitation for an argument with you. Given the subject I was writing about to Ruth (the tendency, as seen by Tibetan Bud- dhism, for people who regularly express anger and confrontation to continue doing so, rather than having the anger drained), I think your reply is telling. But I had no intention to argue with you when I posted it, and have even less of one now. So if you still have some anger that needs to be vented, I suggest you do what Maharishi once suggested to those who felt that they had to vent their anger: Go yell at a rock, until you are tired of yelling. And then take the rock and bury it far away, so that no one ever finds it and could be poisoned by it. Possibly relevant quotes: Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die. - Malachy McCourt What you do, you do to yourself. - Buddha, the Dhammapada
Re: [FairfieldLife] Who do you love?
On Jun 3, 2008, at 4:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: At 74 or so, the last time I saw him, Bo was still a *ferocious* guitarist. He could play any style well, and did. And he was light-hearted and not afraid to make fun of himself and his own image. He often did versions of his own songs as performed by a Las Vegas lounge singer -- now *that* was a hoot. Onstage he was raunchy and funny and more than any- thing else, ALIVE. His music, which helped to define rock and roll, will keep him that way. I will miss the opportunity to see him live again. He just tore up the stage when I saw him years ago. He was already somewhat older, but you would have thought he was some youngster given the energy and originality he just pulled off effortlessly.
[FairfieldLife] Satsang Fairfield
paste Tuesday Morning Prayers ...Divine Wisdom from the Unbounded Source of Divine Truth, where creation emerges from pure Silence. Divine Mother: Trust yourself. You are an Infinite Being of Divine Love. Trust yourself. I am Divine Mother. I come in the name of the Wholeness of Divine Truth. We are opening into a new chapter in human life. Soften in the heart. That chapter is guided by the heart. The heart is healing, and as your heart heals, you are opening to the Love that is available to you that you have never understood. You are releasing huge power when you open in your heart. It is the power of life itself. Your heart's power allows you to be a creator, and that is what you have come here for. You know how to create. You have been asking questions about creating for a long time, How do I manifest this? How do I create what I want? Now you are opening into the power of creation itself. Your heart is the engine that moves the creation. Love is the fuel for that engine. The engine has been running, but not with enough fuel to create any lasting change. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften in the heart. Trust me. I am bringing you into the place where Love manifests itself. Love is self-manifesting. What your engine, your heart, must do with it is to focus it into the areas where you want to create. I have been teaching you about intention. We have been practicing intention. Attention has also been practiced, as you move your attention to the different places on the body, or move your attention flowing into the heart. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften again in the heart. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften at the crown. Soften at the base of the spine. Soften in the abdomen. Soften in the solar plexus. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. The intention is very subtle. It's an impulse. It is a wave, speaking vibrationally. It is a wave that sprouts and then grows. As that wave grows, you build what you want through the many levels of creation until it manifests on the surface as something material. Trust me. I know how to create. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Your physical bodies have been developing, refining. We have first had to attend your physiology so that your vehicle for manifestation in the material plane is functioning without problems, without inhibitors or obstacles. We have had to do a lot of healing of the physical body to allow the power of Love to move through it unobstructed. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Soften in the heart. You are going to be amazed at the power of this fuel. It is more powerful than anything on earth, anything in the galaxy, and you are standing at the door. Soften again in the heart. Trust me. Soften in throat. Soften in the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Trust your Infinite Self. Trust me. I know what I am doing. As you move your attention, you are creating Light flows that are balancing your physical body. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid gland in the throat. When this fuel of Love begins to move into your systems, it is going to need pathways, or you could even say pipes to flow through to all of the energy centers to stimulate and activate areas in each energy center that have not been used, that you need for your manifestations. We are building those pipelines now. Soften in the heart. We are awakening the full potential of the thymus and thyroid. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid. These two glands have been greatly under-used. As we attend them, we stimulate their awakening, enlivening their energy. Trust me. Soften in the thymus, thyroid, thymus, thyroid. This is like a massage with Light, awakening the thyroid and the thymus using the attention. Soften in both the thymus and the thyroid and allow the softness to expand, to flow out from both of them, healing the thymus, healing the thyroid. Soften in the solar plexus. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften in the thymus. Trust your Infinite Self. I want you to know that your heart is healing as we soften and open in these other energy centers. Everything, all the other energy centers are
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
I rest my case. :-) BTW, speaking of uncontrollable anger and rising insanity (the Subject title), do we have more of both to look forward to as you explain Bill Clinton's comment from yesterday? This may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind. From your lips to God's ear, Bill. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm with Ruth on this one. I have seen no evidence that getting one's negative emotions out really gets them out. In fact, I have seen ample evidence that those who give expression to their negative emotions tend to keep on doing it, and with the *same* recurring emotions. So I think the Tibetan model is onto something. Barry, I hate to disappoint you, but I'm afraid that agreement with Ruth on this point does not constitute disagreement with me. I wasn't going to bother to reply to this, but in light of Vaj's recent comment about hate mail, I will. That would be Vaj's recent *false* comment about my sending hate mail, you mean. I wasn't *speaking* to you, Judy. Of course you weren't. Did you hallucinate that I did? I was replying -- belatedly, perhaps -- to Ruth's comments that she didn't believe in the value of catharsis. I was seeking only to provide another point of view (that of Tibetan Buddhism) which agrees with her (as do I), and some background material on that point of view. You assumed you were arguing for Ruth's POV against mine--except that you had not, as usual, paid close enough attention to the thread to realize that wasn't the point at issue in my discussion with Ruth. You simply thought you saw an opportunity to diss my view. All you saw in it was an invitation for an argument with you. No, just a mis-aimed diss. You quoted me, then Ruth, and said, I've been wanting to weigh in on this one, so I finally will. This one was what you mistakenly thought was an argument between Ruth and me, which you decided to weigh in on on Ruth's side and against what you thought was my side. If you had meant only to comment on what Ruth had said, you wouldn't have quoted me or said you were weighing in on the discussion she and I had been having. In fact, I wasn't advocating getting one's negative emotions out. I was pointing out that TM theoretically obviates any need to do so. Given the subject I was writing about to Ruth (the tendency, as seen by Tibetan Bud- dhism, for people who regularly express anger and confrontation to continue doing so, rather than having the anger drained), I think your reply is telling. *Very* funny from somebody whose posts almost exclusively express anger and confrontation, just as you're doing now. But I had no intention to argue with you when I posted it Didn't say you did, as noted. I was simply pointing out that you fouled up, as you so often do. You're the one choosing to make it an argument, instead of admitting your error. , and have even less of one now. So if you still have some anger that needs to be vented, I suggest you do what Maharishi once suggested to those who felt that they had to vent their anger: Barry, we all know, as I said, that you have a compulsive need to vent your anger, so try taking your own advice for a change instead of projecting your own feelings onto others: Go yell at a rock, until you are tired of yelling. And then take the rock and bury it far away, so that no one ever finds it and could be poisoned by it. Possibly relevant quotes: Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die. - Malachy McCourt Whatever you do, you do to yourself. - Buddha, the Dhammapada
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. Vaj has been posting hate material here against Islam and other non-Christian religions for some time; I don't know why anybody should be surprised that he doesn't get the point. Actually I watched the movie so I do get the point. Interesting comment from someone who the vast majority of her posts i hate mail! (You can always tell when Vaj is lying, because his syntax tends to disintegrate.) Never once have I posted anything hateful about a religion, as Vaj knows. No, I have not posted hate material, but I have posted material that most liberals like yourself might not like. False dichotomy. What we don't like is hate material of the kind you post regularly. Posts may be posted for counterpoint and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the poster. But it's pretty easy to tell: when the poster *defends* the hate material, it reflects the poster's opinion. Therefore, if you see hate in something that was posted, I suggest you check your own heart. My heart finds hatred of a religion to be reprehensible. It's often best to watch a movie before deciding what it's about Not talking about the movie, just about your penchant for posting hate material about religions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:15 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Doug, can I ask who it is who considers himself or herself able to speak for the Divine Mother using the first person? Alright, Barry, I must confess--it was me. I wasn't going to say anything, I wasn't going to push my own enlightenment or let on about how special I was, I wasn't going to do any of that...but, I just can't help myself. If you have any doubts, just trust me. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:15 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Doug, can I ask who it is who considers himself or herself able to speak for the Divine Mother using the first person? Alright, Barry, I must confess--it was me. I wasn't going to say anything, I wasn't going to push my own enlightenment or let on about how special I was, I wasn't going to do any of that...but, I just can't help myself. If you have any doubts, just trust me. :) Well shit, Sal...if I'd known that I would never have said anything. You're certainly the closest thing we've got to a Divine Mother on FFL. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Divine Mother: Doug, can I ask who it is who considers himself or herself able to speak for the Divine Mother using the first person? *I* come in the name of the Wholeness of Divine Truth. *We* are opening into a new chapter in human life. Trust *me*. *I* am bringing you into the place where Love manifests itself. *I* have been teaching you about intention. *We* have been practicing intention. *We* have first had to attend your physiology so that your vehicle for manifestation in the material plane is functioning without problems, without inhibitors or obstacles. *We* have had to do a lot of healing of the physical body... Trust *me*. Trust *me*. *I* know what *I* am doing...etc. So, while it's interesting for you to post these excerpts without attribution or comment, Doug, don't you think they'd be more interesting if you told us who considers themselves able to speak AS the Divine Mother, referring to them- selves as I and me ? Even more interesting would be who the we are who *do* trust this person, and allow whoever it is to get away with it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm with Ruth on this one. I have seen no evidence that getting one's negative emotions out really gets them out. In fact, I have seen ample evidence that those who give expression to their negative emotions tend to keep on doing it, and with the *same* recurring emotions. So I think the Tibetan model is onto something. Barry, I hate to disappoint you, but I'm afraid that agreement with Ruth on this point does not constitute disagreement with me. I wasn't going to bother to reply to this, but in light of Vaj's recent comment about hate mail, I will. That would be Vaj's recent *false* comment about my sending hate mail, you mean. I wasn't *speaking* to you, Judy. Of course you weren't. Did you hallucinate that I did? I was replying -- belatedly, perhaps -- to Ruth's comments that she didn't believe in the value of catharsis. I was seeking only to provide another point of view (that of Tibetan Buddhism) which agrees with her (as do I), and some background material on that point of view. You assumed you were arguing for Ruth's POV against mine--except that you had not, as usual, paid close enough attention to the thread to realize that wasn't the point at issue in my discussion with Ruth. You simply thought you saw an opportunity to diss my view. All you saw in it was an invitation for an argument with you. No, just a mis-aimed diss. You quoted me, then Ruth, and said, I've been wanting to weigh in on this one, so I finally will. This one was what you mistakenly thought was an argument between Ruth and me, which you decided to weigh in on on Ruth's side and against what you thought was my side. If you had meant only to comment on what Ruth had said, you wouldn't have quoted me or said you were weighing in on the discussion she and I had been having. In fact, I wasn't advocating getting one's negative emotions out. I was pointing out that TM theoretically obviates any need to do so. Given the subject I was writing about to Ruth (the tendency, as seen by Tibetan Bud- dhism, for people who regularly express anger and confrontation to continue doing so, rather than having the anger drained), I think your reply is telling. *Very* funny from somebody whose posts almost exclusively express anger and confrontation, just as you're doing now. But I had no intention to argue with you when I posted it Didn't say you did, as noted. I was simply pointing out that you fouled up, as you so often do. You're the one choosing to make it an argument, instead of admitting your error. , and have even less of one now. So if you still have some anger that needs to be vented, I suggest you do what Maharishi once suggested to those who felt that they had to vent their anger: Barry, we all know, as I said, that you have a compulsive need to vent your anger, so try taking your own advice for a change instead of projecting your own feelings onto others: Go yell at a rock, until you are tired of yelling. And then take the rock and bury it far away, so that no one ever finds it and could be poisoned by it. Possibly relevant quotes: Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die. - Malachy McCourt What you do, you do to yourself. - Buddha, the Dhammapada
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
Will you two just shut-up and fuck already! ;-) --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:32 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. Vaj has been posting hate material here against Islam and other non-Christian religions for some time; I don't know why anybody should be surprised that he doesn't get the point. Actually I watched the movie so I do get the point. Interesting comment from someone who the vast majority of her posts i hate mail! (You can always tell when Vaj is lying, because his syntax tends to disintegrate.) Actually it's my typing skills in quick emails responding to a mischaracterization of my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. But this is typical of the constant lies and mischaracterizations we learned to expect from you. Never once have I posted anything hateful about a religion, as Vaj knows. I never said that. You have posted almost continuous hate mail though for a decade. No, I have not posted hate material, but I have posted material that most liberals like yourself might not like. False dichotomy. What we don't like is hate material of the kind you post regularly. What hate material would that be Judy? Posts may be posted for counterpoint and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the poster. But it's pretty easy to tell: when the poster *defends* the hate material, it reflects the poster's opinion. What hate material would that be? Are you referring to the movie? Have you seen it? Which parts do you consider to be hateful? Therefore, if you see hate in something that was posted, I suggest you check your own heart. My heart finds hatred of a religion to be reprehensible. I see. Then you'd probably want to direct your tirades to people who HATE religion. It's often best to watch a movie before deciding what it's about Not talking about the movie, just about your penchant for posting hate material about religions. The post was about a movie. You either saw the movie or you didn't. Which was it Judy?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:32 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. Vaj has been posting hate material here against Islam and other non-Christian religions for some time; I don't know why anybody should be surprised that he doesn't get the point. Actually I watched the movie so I do get the point. Interesting comment from someone who the vast majority of her posts i hate mail! (You can always tell when Vaj is lying, because his syntax tends to disintegrate.) Actually it's my typing skills in quick emails responding to a mischaracterization of my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. But this is typical of the constant lies and mischaracterizations we learned to expect from you. Never once have I posted anything hateful about a religion, as Vaj knows. I never said that. You have posted almost continuous hate mail though for a decade. No, I have not posted hate material, but I have posted material that most liberals like yourself might not like. False dichotomy. What we don't like is hate material of the kind you post regularly. What hate material would that be Judy? Posts may be posted for counterpoint and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the poster. But it's pretty easy to tell: when the poster *defends* the hate material, it reflects the poster's opinion. What hate material would that be? Are you referring to the movie? Have you seen it? Which parts do you consider to be hateful? Therefore, if you see hate in something that was posted, I suggest you check your own heart. My heart finds hatred of a religion to be reprehensible. I see. Then you'd probably want to direct your tirades to people who HATE religion. It's often best to watch a movie before deciding what it's about Not talking about the movie, just about your penchant for posting hate material about religions. The post was about a movie. You either saw the movie or you didn't. Which was it Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Expressing feelings after trauma not necessary, research shows
Expressing feelings after trauma not necessary, research shows Talking it out has long been considered essential to recovering from a trauma. But new research shows that expressing one's thoughts and feelings after a traumatic event is not necessary for long-term emotional and physical health, a finding that could change the way institutions devote money and resources to mental health services following collective traumas. The study, led by UC Irvine psychologist Roxane Cohen Silver, looked at the relationship between immediate expression after a traumatic event and mental and physical well-being over time among a nationally representative sample. Study participants were questioned following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Silver and colleagues say participants who chose not to express thoughts and emotions about the attacks when given the opportunity to do so through an anonymous, Web-based survey, appeared to cope successfully and reported fewer diagnosed physical and mental disorders. In contrast, individuals who communicated their thoughts and feelings about the attacks reported more physical health problems and emotional distress over time, even after controlling for exposure to and distance from the attacks. The study followed participants over a two-year period. It appears in the June issue of the American Psychological Association's Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. The results have important implications for understanding the role of expression in the coping process and for early post-trauma intervention, according to Silver. Some people don't need to express thoughts and feelings after trauma and do just fine, and it's a myth that you must express your distress in order to recover, Silver said. Mandatory or required psychological counseling is often unwarranted and universal intervention is likely to be a waste of resources. A standard and universal approach to trauma counseling can result in misappropriation of resources away from individuals who are truly at risk, she said. It also may interfere with the natural coping processes that take place when individuals seek support and advice from family and close friends. This study also shows how dangerous it can be to rely on hunches and common sense when attempting to provide intervention after a trauma experienced by a large group of people, such as the 9/11 attacks, but it can also be applied to situations like school shootings, she said. Researchers analyzed data from a Web-based survey sent to 36,000 participants who received e-mails with an open-ended prompt asking them to share their thoughts about the events of Sept. 11. Nearly 14,000 people responded, and researchers followed a number of these individuals - as well as some of those who chose not to respond - in the years following the attacks. They collected information about physician-diagnosed physical and mental health ailments over two years. The researchers caution that the higher rates of illness among those who did respond should not be interpreted to mean that expressing thoughts and feelings is harmful. People who want to talk should still do so, but they say it is important to remember that not everyone copes in the same way, and in the immediate aftermath of a collective trauma it is perfectly healthy not to want to express thoughts and feelings. Source: University of California - Irvine http://www.physorg.com/news131637871.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield = Hawkins Hearsay?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hearsay? have you done your homework? snip I just liked the original quote. I had no idea the guy was an industry unto himself. my bad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
I think we should be a separate category for Worst Astrological Drivel about the Presidential Election. These entries are both so good, I would hate to see one of them passed over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I think we should have a contest to choose the Worst New Age Drivel of the Year. I nominate this post, and I am confident that it will win. I dunno, dude. Did you read Lou Valentino's channeled message from the Pussy Planet, where the Pleiadians describe themselves as resembling a women's virgina? Hard to beat that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: paste Tuesday Morning Prayers ...Divine Wisdom from the Unbounded Source of Divine Truth, where creation emerges from pure Silence. Divine Mother: Trust yourself. You are an Infinite Being of Divine Love. Trust yourself. I am Divine Mother. I come in the name of the Wholeness of Divine Truth. We are opening into a new chapter in human life. Soften in the heart. That chapter is guided by the heart. The heart is healing, and as your heart heals, you are opening to the Love that is available to you that you have never understood. You are releasing huge power when you open in your heart. It is the power of life itself. Your heart's power allows you to be a creator, and that is what you have come here for. You know how to create. You have been asking questions about creating for a long time, How do I manifest this? How do I create what I want? Now you are opening into the power of creation itself. Your heart is the engine that moves the creation. Love is the fuel for that engine. The engine has been running, but not with enough fuel to create any lasting change. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften in the heart. Trust me. I am bringing you into the place where Love manifests itself. Love is self-manifesting. What your engine, your heart, must do with it is to focus it into the areas where you want to create. I have been teaching you about intention. We have been practicing intention. Attention has also been practiced, as you move your attention to the different places on the body, or move your attention flowing into the heart. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften again in the heart. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften at the crown. Soften at the base of the spine. Soften in the abdomen. Soften in the solar plexus. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. The intention is very subtle. It's an impulse. It is a wave, speaking vibrationally. It is a wave that sprouts and then grows. As that wave grows, you build what you want through the many levels of creation until it manifests on the surface as something material. Trust me. I know how to create. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Your physical bodies have been developing, refining. We have first had to attend your physiology so that your vehicle for manifestation in the material plane is functioning without problems, without inhibitors or obstacles. We have had to do a lot of healing of the physical body to allow the power of Love to move through it unobstructed. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Soften in the heart. You are going to be amazed at the power of this fuel. It is more powerful than anything on earth, anything in the galaxy, and you are standing at the door. Soften again in the heart. Trust me. Soften in throat. Soften in the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Trust your Infinite Self. Trust me. I know what I am doing. As you move your attention, you are creating Light flows that are balancing your physical body. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid gland in the throat. When this fuel of Love begins to move into your systems, it is going to need pathways, or you could even say pipes to flow through to all of
[FairfieldLife] add water to gas and double your milage ?
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=hondaxr650 Convert Your Car/Truck to BURN WATER as well as Gasoline--Double Your Mileage! anyone has any experiences along these lines? as I understand this, the wasted heat of the engine is simply used to convert a little water to steam which is then added to the gasoline and that this has been succesfully implemented by some doubling gas mileage, etc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rest my case. :-) You don't have much choice now that it's been eviscerated. BTW, speaking of uncontrollable anger and rising insanity (the Subject title), do we have more of both to look forward to as you explain Bill Clinton's comment from yesterday? This may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind. Uh, which words do you need to have explained? And what exactly do you believe his comment has to do with uncontrollable anger or rising insanity?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! I hate it when that happens. Richard Hughes wrote: I always thought that there were two components to this, first is 'stress' that acts on the nervous system. This could be anything that makes you have to work harder either mentally or physically. Can be either good or bad, which is largely down to unconscious personal preference, some people thrive under pressure, others... not so much. Secondly you have 'strain' which occurs when the nervous system can't take anymore without raising the natural anxiety background level... According to Selye stress has two components: one he called the general adaptation syndrome, and another type of stress, a pathological state derived from ongoing, unrelieved stress. ...in MMY lingo it leaves a permanent imprint on the nervous sytem that only the deep relaxation of TM can release. interestingly, both good and bad can have an effect here... It's not just 'MMY lingo' - it's the yoga system of South Asia. Samskaras are the imprints of all previous actions in the past and in the present. Samskaras is a Sanskrit Buddhist word which refers to all conditioned phenomena. But the idea here is that there are structures within the unconscious that are the basis for all worldly activities and future REBIRTH. The purpose of stress relief in the yoga system is aimed at freedom from the conditions that lead to rebirth, not just practices that would help a person relax or feel better. But the 'imprints' are not permanent - otherwise there would be no relief. The samskaras can be 'burnt' away through the practice of tapas, which is a form of meditative stress release, what Selye called 'eu-stress' - a stress that is curative or pleasant. I think people in the TMO got so obsessed with releasing stress that they forgot most of it wasn't negative in any way at all, like the people I meet who never do more exercise than asanas in case they create stress in themselves that they will only have to undo whilst meditating later. Maybe so. If the question is, does TM release strain? I would have to say sometimes, but it's in no way as good as it says on the tin and I doubt that just being stress/strain free is all it takes to get one enlightened, it's a nice thought and I fell for it too but you have to look at the mechanism involved here. TM meditation is NOT the cause of enlightemnet. TM meditation simply provides an *ideal* opportunity for the transcending. It is NOT the practice that brings the enlightenmnet - enlightenment is an already present state. Enlightenment is the dispelling of the illusion of the individual soul-monad. MMY claims that all stress/strain is a deviation from normal functioning and that TM will release it, trouble is you could be suffering anxiety from childhood trauma and the stress is caused by memory, hard-wired in. You may have confused the Marshy with L. Ron Hubbard, because this is almost an exact description of Scientology. But it is a fact that Scientology works: some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. But, Marshy follows more closely the idea of meditation being a curative 'eu-stress', rather than a release of purely physical stress/strain. According to Selye, stress is the disruption of homeostasis. This can be through physical or psychological stimuli. This is where the yoga system leaves the modern psychologists far behind. There is so much more to the yoga system and its accepted doctrines, that it makes western psychiatry look like a Fisher-Price toy in comparison. Is TM going to change that in any way? I think not, the anxiety from strain like this will stick around, TM may reduce the symptoms but you need to delve inside and change the way you react to memories. I can't see how any amount of meditation will change you that much. Maybe so, but you wouldn't know it if you saw it, since enlightenment is an interiorized enstasis. But you would know it, just as surely as the Buddha knew it. You should know that, according to the Buddha Shakya, when he attained enlightenment he saw the entire realm of his own becoming; he saw the suffering he had experienced in so many previous births, and he KNEW that he would be reborn no more. He SAW and DISPELLED the illusion of the individual soul-monad. He was at that moment FREE - he realized that rebirth was no more. What he did NOT say was that he had obtained any supernornal powers or insights. He did NOT say that he could fly through the air or pass through walls. What he DID say was that he had seen the way out of the endless births and deaths; the sorrow,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who do you love?
Thanks for the great obituary on Bo Turq. I have heard John Hammond play that song really well. What a beat! Chuck Barry used to do the local band routine with mixed results. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked 47 miles of barbed wire, Use a cobra snake for a neck tie. Got a brand new house on the roadside, Made out of rattlesnake hide. I got a brand new chimney made on top, Made out of human skulls. Now come on darling let's take a little walk, tell me, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love. Realplayer obituary from NPR: http://tinyurl.com/5e8mmt Who do I love? Bo Diddley, that's who. Bo used to live a suburb of Albuquerque, where he was for a time the sheriff (Bo Diddley is a gunslinger.). He used to play in the Santa Fe area often, and was a real treat to see. I have to list him as among the best live performers I have ever seen. His schtick during the time I saw him was that he didn't even have a band of his own. When someone asked him to play a gig, Bo would make some calls and find out the name of the best local band in the area and give them a call and ask if they wanted to back him up. Who is going to say no to being asked to perform with a legend? Bo would ask the kids in the band to learn as many of his songs as they could, and then they'd get together before the gig for no more than a few minutes at a sound check, and then go onstage and wing it. The result was never anything less than professional and wonderful. At 74 or so, the last time I saw him, Bo was still a *ferocious* guitarist. He could play any style well, and did. And he was light-hearted and not afraid to make fun of himself and his own image. He often did versions of his own songs as performed by a Las Vegas lounge singer -- now *that* was a hoot. Onstage he was raunchy and funny and more than any- thing else, ALIVE. His music, which helped to define rock and roll, will keep him that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzn7VyoqEw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XkjBVnpos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHgqtC02Qt0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1Mk6U5zVY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdDomMm0o4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcJNle7TY8U
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield = Hawkins Hearsay?
hearsay? have you done your homework? check out some of Dr Hawkins forums, first, please. I actually was a member of one group, resigned and joined another. Bunch of nice people in both groups, but most are mesmerized by Hawkins map of consciousness and muscle testing, labeling everything ~ teachers, books, teachings, neighbors, movies, etc, etc. Strange, all this labeling seems inconsistent with his teaching that all positionalities need to be given up. Some few do leave this aside as Dr H himself stated that it's not necessary for Self-Realization; others use it a lot and justify it's uncertainties by not being at a level of Dr Hawkins who they feel is infallible even though his results are not always consistent. Then there are misguided teachers like Wayne Dyer who likes Hawkins and promotes his kinesiology nonsense. Aside from his take on kinesiology as a tool to tell the truth about anything and everything, Hawkins does seem to have a good grasp of the essence of advaita and perhaps some experiences to back it up. But, from my POV, he is not teaching anything NEW about advaita that has not already been taught by many Awakened teachers in the past and present. I would say that his use of language( positionality etc ) is what is unique and not the basic teachings themselves. His unique use of languge is at times helpful in clarifying a spiritual pointer from another point of view and at others times just confusing wasteful verbiage; sort of like in ACIM. It seems some of his followers believe him to be at the highest level of his map of consciousness and therefore avoid other teachers/books whom they or Dr Hawkins has rated at low levels. Overall, I would say Dr Hawkins does seem to have some strong positionalities that he is clinging too and not giving up as he recommends. And it seems these are justified by the map of consciousness arising from using kinesioligy to tell what is true and what is false. hope this helps. thanks for listening. God Bless, anatol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its hearsay-- some people are afraid of everything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: --from http://skepdic.com ...on Dr. Hawkins: Some of the statements made by this otherwise kind and intelligent man are shocking, i.e., as to kinesiology. With the increased sales of his books and other materials, the concern I have is that this nonsense could become an insane tool for wrong. I have witnessed its wrongful and malicious use by those very close to the Dr. His followers use it to rank all sorts of things using the Map of Consciousness as a reference: people, countries, events, movies, music, etc. Before each lecture-performance, he tests the audience to see how on the Map of Consciousness they are as a group, i.e., how close to enlightenment and therefore how far from the spiritual- dregs. Amazingly, the groups lectured to always start very high on this logarithmic scale. After the lecture, he retests the group (using his wife as the agent) and they always go up the scale five to ten points. His testing shows that very few humans climb the Map of Consciousness by more than five points in a lifetime. Thus, the lectures are a great investment! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: Excellent! Perfect! This is it- Thanks for posting this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Making the rounds of discussion: Subject: relief from the perception of time This is dense, but gorgeous.. With incorporation into daily life, a spiritual practice can take the form of the continuous surrendering of Volition, which then emerges into autonomous witnessing and effortless observation. These capacities will then be discovered to be qualities of consciousness, and not personal. Concentrated spiritual focus is like a 'mind set' by which spiritual processing becomes prioritized. Eventually, the illusion of a distinct, separate, personal 'I' that is 'doing' the processing drops away. The phenomenon is then witnessed to be happening spontaneously of its own. A fast track to this effortless state is provided by the simple technique of focused relinquishment of resisting the perception/experiencing of the passage or duration of time. This is a surprisingly simple yet very powerful technique, and the reward is a sudden relief from the constant unconscious pressure of 'time', which subtly contextualizes and colors the experiencing of worldly life. Breaking the dominance of the illusion of time is very doable. It is then discovered that time is a projection from consciousness and only a belief system out which the ego 'time tracks' the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who do you love?
I was not very familiar with Bo Diddley but I was with the Animals' Bo Diddley Story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhuEV17YZes --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked 47 miles of barbed wire, Use a cobra snake for a neck tie. Got a brand new house on the roadside, Made out of rattlesnake hide. I got a brand new chimney made on top, Made out of human skulls. Now come on darling let's take a little walk, tell me, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love, Who do you love. Realplayer obituary from NPR: http://tinyurl.com/5e8mmt Who do I love? Bo Diddley, that's who. Bo used to live a suburb of Albuquerque, where he was for a time the sheriff (Bo Diddley is a gunslinger.). He used to play in the Santa Fe area often, and was a real treat to see. I have to list him as among the best live performers I have ever seen. His schtick during the time I saw him was that he didn't even have a band of his own. When someone asked him to play a gig, Bo would make some calls and find out the name of the best local band in the area and give them a call and ask if they wanted to back him up. Who is going to say no to being asked to perform with a legend? Bo would ask the kids in the band to learn as many of his songs as they could, and then they'd get together before the gig for no more than a few minutes at a sound check, and then go onstage and wing it. The result was never anything less than professional and wonderful. At 74 or so, the last time I saw him, Bo was still a *ferocious* guitarist. He could play any style well, and did. And he was light-hearted and not afraid to make fun of himself and his own image. He often did versions of his own songs as performed by a Las Vegas lounge singer -- now *that* was a hoot. Onstage he was raunchy and funny and more than any- thing else, ALIVE. His music, which helped to define rock and roll, will keep him that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzn7VyoqEw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XkjBVnpos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHgqtC02Qt0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1Mk6U5zVY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdDomMm0o4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcJNle7TY8U
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
Peter wrote: Will you two just shut-up You could at least wait until AFTER the therapy session to make your comments, Doctor. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to! ;-) and fuck already! ;-) While you're watching?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:15 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Doug, can I ask who it is who considers himself or herself able to speak for the Divine Mother using the first person? Alright, Barry, I must confess--it was me. I wasn't going to say anything, I wasn't going to push my own enlightenment or let on about how special I was, I wasn't going to do any of that...but, I just can't help myself. If you have any doubts, just trust me. :) Well shit, Sal...if I'd known that I would never have said anything. You're certainly the closest thing we've got to a Divine Mother on FFL. :-) Aw, thanks, Barry. I keep trying to tell my kids that, but, oddly enough, they just laugh and run away. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
I have modified the program to look for messages beginning at 0 hours GMT (or UTC) on Saturdays. Turq wrote: But it's also completely meaningless. With all due respect for your efforts, dude, you didn't read the spec. The *definition* of when the posting week starts is midnight Friday *Fairfield time*. No other time zone even enters into the picture. With all due respect, *midnight Friday* is Thursday, whether it's GMT, CDT, or UTC. And you guys call yourselves 'programmers'? Go get some smarts and get back to us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
I think we should have a contest to choose the Worst New Age Drivel of the Year. I nominate this post, and I am confident that it will win. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paste Tuesday Morning Prayers ...Divine Wisdom from the Unbounded Source of Divine Truth, where creation emerges from pure Silence. Divine Mother: Trust yourself. You are an Infinite Being of Divine Love. Trust yourself. I am Divine Mother. I come in the name of the Wholeness of Divine Truth. We are opening into a new chapter in human life. Soften in the heart. That chapter is guided by the heart. The heart is healing, and as your heart heals, you are opening to the Love that is available to you that you have never understood. You are releasing huge power when you open in your heart. It is the power of life itself. Your heart's power allows you to be a creator, and that is what you have come here for. You know how to create. You have been asking questions about creating for a long time, How do I manifest this? How do I create what I want? Now you are opening into the power of creation itself. Your heart is the engine that moves the creation. Love is the fuel for that engine. The engine has been running, but not with enough fuel to create any lasting change. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften in the heart. Trust me. I am bringing you into the place where Love manifests itself. Love is self-manifesting. What your engine, your heart, must do with it is to focus it into the areas where you want to create. I have been teaching you about intention. We have been practicing intention. Attention has also been practiced, as you move your attention to the different places on the body, or move your attention flowing into the heart. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften again in the heart. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften at the crown. Soften at the base of the spine. Soften in the abdomen. Soften in the solar plexus. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. The intention is very subtle. It's an impulse. It is a wave, speaking vibrationally. It is a wave that sprouts and then grows. As that wave grows, you build what you want through the many levels of creation until it manifests on the surface as something material. Trust me. I know how to create. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Your physical bodies have been developing, refining. We have first had to attend your physiology so that your vehicle for manifestation in the material plane is functioning without problems, without inhibitors or obstacles. We have had to do a lot of healing of the physical body to allow the power of Love to move through it unobstructed. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Soften in the heart. You are going to be amazed at the power of this fuel. It is more powerful than anything on earth, anything in the galaxy, and you are standing at the door. Soften again in the heart. Trust me. Soften in throat. Soften in the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Trust your Infinite Self. Trust me. I know what I am doing. As you move your attention, you are creating Light flows that are balancing your physical body. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid gland in the throat. When this fuel of Love begins to move into your systems, it is going to need pathways, or you could even say pipes to flow through to all of the energy centers to stimulate and activate areas in each energy center that have not been used, that you need for your manifestations. We are building those pipelines now. Soften in the heart. We are awakening the full potential of the thymus and thyroid. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid. These two glands have been greatly under-used. As we attend them, we stimulate their awakening, enlivening their energy. Trust me. Soften in the thymus, thyroid, thymus, thyroid. This is like a massage with Light, awakening the thyroid and the thymus using the attention. Soften in both the thymus and the thyroid and allow the softness to expand, to flow out from both of them, healing the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should have a contest to choose the Worst New Age Drivel of the Year. I nominate this post, and I am confident that it will win. I dunno, dude. Did you read Lou Valentino's channeled message from the Pussy Planet, where the Pleiadians describe themselves as resembling a women's virgina? Hard to beat that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: paste Tuesday Morning Prayers ...Divine Wisdom from the Unbounded Source of Divine Truth, where creation emerges from pure Silence. Divine Mother: Trust yourself. You are an Infinite Being of Divine Love. Trust yourself. I am Divine Mother. I come in the name of the Wholeness of Divine Truth. We are opening into a new chapter in human life. Soften in the heart. That chapter is guided by the heart. The heart is healing, and as your heart heals, you are opening to the Love that is available to you that you have never understood. You are releasing huge power when you open in your heart. It is the power of life itself. Your heart's power allows you to be a creator, and that is what you have come here for. You know how to create. You have been asking questions about creating for a long time, How do I manifest this? How do I create what I want? Now you are opening into the power of creation itself. Your heart is the engine that moves the creation. Love is the fuel for that engine. The engine has been running, but not with enough fuel to create any lasting change. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften in the heart. Trust me. I am bringing you into the place where Love manifests itself. Love is self-manifesting. What your engine, your heart, must do with it is to focus it into the areas where you want to create. I have been teaching you about intention. We have been practicing intention. Attention has also been practiced, as you move your attention to the different places on the body, or move your attention flowing into the heart. You have been refining the tools of intention and attention so that your heart can manifest what is desired. Soften again in the heart. Soften in the throat. Soften in the brow. Soften at the crown. Soften at the base of the spine. Soften in the abdomen. Soften in the solar plexus. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. As you are awakening the energy centers, you are opening the doors for complete manifestation of your intentions. The intention is very subtle. It's an impulse. It is a wave, speaking vibrationally. It is a wave that sprouts and then grows. As that wave grows, you build what you want through the many levels of creation until it manifests on the surface as something material. Trust me. I know how to create. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Your physical bodies have been developing, refining. We have first had to attend your physiology so that your vehicle for manifestation in the material plane is functioning without problems, without inhibitors or obstacles. We have had to do a lot of healing of the physical body to allow the power of Love to move through it unobstructed. Now you are knocking on the door of the fuel that runs the whole creation. Soften in the heart. You are going to be amazed at the power of this fuel. It is more powerful than anything on earth, anything in the galaxy, and you are standing at the door. Soften again in the heart. Trust me. Soften in throat. Soften in the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Soften in the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the brow, the crown, the base of the spine. Trust your Infinite Self. Trust me. I know what I am doing. As you move your attention, you are creating Light flows that are balancing your physical body. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid gland in the throat. When this fuel of Love begins to move into your systems, it is going to need pathways, or you could even say pipes to flow through to all of the energy centers to stimulate and activate areas in each energy center that have not been used, that you need for your manifestations. We are building those pipelines now. Soften in the heart. We are awakening the full potential of the thymus and thyroid. Soften in the thymus. Soften in the thyroid. These two glands have been
[FairfieldLife] How to deal with the Yahoo post-eater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post. Not true, in my experience. When this happens (getting the password prompt after hitting Send), immediately press the Back button (do NOT enter your password) and return to the edit window. Your text will still be there (at least mine always is). Copy the text to the Clipboard and *then* press Send again. Now enter the password. Then, when you're finished, rather than expecting Yahoo to complete the Send operation (it won't), go back to the original post, hit Reply again, and paste in the text you had saved. I read and post from the Website because I like reading the posts in the order they were posted, not threaded. And sometimes it's a bit braindead. But using this technique I haven't lost anything I've written in months.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to deal with the Yahoo post-eater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post. Not true, in my experience. When this happens (getting the password prompt after hitting Send), immediately press the Back button (do NOT enter your password) and return to the edit window. Your text will still be there (at least mine always is). Copy the text to the Clipboard and *then* press Send again. Now enter the password. Good tip, thank you. Never thought of trying that. Then, when you're finished, rather than expecting Yahoo to complete the Send operation (it won't), go back to the original post, hit Reply again, and paste in the text you had saved. I read and post from the Website because I like reading the posts in the order they were posted, not threaded. And sometimes it's a bit braindead. But using this technique I haven't lost anything I've written in months.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. Good tip, thanks! I've lost a good few posts, and they never seem to be as good if I have another go, probably the disheartenment of having to plough through it all again. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post. Not had that one as I'm on a shared computer, but worth bearing in mind if ever get my own. This particlular post- eater was a new one on me, I got an error message like yahoogroups was unable to retrieve message 1875330 and that was that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
A battle between family members is perfectly fine I guess? How is your brother John doing? Say hi to him for me, Steve Gray from Avon Park, I'm sure he will remember me, and you verify whether he thinks I belong in a cage at a zoo. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I guess you can include the violence of Hinduism as well Bob re: MahaBharta, how many died in that great battle? You also forgot to mention why Moses the slaughter. Balaam was a swell guy now wasn't he? The warfare in the Mahabharata was between warriors on the huge battlefield on the plains of Kurukshetra, not the slaughter of innocent civilians. The only difference between Moses and the Israelis now killing civilians in Lebanon and wherever they can is that Moses liked to keep fresh young virgin girls around (not that Jews are any more or less disposed to slaughter than other peoples). Of course, you don't have enough brains to distinguish between killing a bad guy like Balaam and slaughtering an entire people, as if the existence of one bad guy could in any way justify the killing of defenseless women and children. You are at large, all right, but a mentality like yours, like other beastly proponents of slaughter of innocents, belongs in a cage at the zoo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Full length English version now on Google Video. Learn some history on the Religion of Peace in this controversial documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781 Link Everything you've always wanted to know about Islam but were afraid to ask. The feature documentary that discovers the basis of Muslim violence in the Koran and the life of Muhammad. When you consider the centuries and centuries of brutal warfare and exploitation by so-called Christians against other Xtians and other peoples, it's ridiculous to characterize Muslims as being any more violent, either in scripture or in historical fact, than Christians or Jews. Read the Bibles' Numbers 31, in which Moses ordered the slaughter of an entire group, allowing only the virgin girls to live: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have modified the program to look for messages beginning at 0 hours GMT (or UTC) on Saturdays. Currently that for Fairfield would be 7 PM CDT the Friday before and 5 PM PDT. When you go to the Fairfield Life web page without logging in you will get the UTC time for the message. When logged in you get the time adjusted to your zone. If the start time was 0 hours Saturdays Central Time it is a little difficult to adjust the program for users in different parts of the world. The GMT starting time is much easier and more consistent. It should be easier to remember too. But it's also completely meaningless. With all due respect for your efforts, dude, you didn't read the spec. The *definition* of when the posting week starts is midnight Friday *Fairfield time*. No other time zone even enters into the picture. All you have to do is count the posts for the week using *that* time, and everyone -- no matter where they live -- has an accurate count of their posts for the week. As you have defined it above, they do not. IT IS NOT COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. :) Take a look at the message header, dude. You don't get Fairfield time in the header. You mainly get either UTC or your current time. All I was proposing was to change it from the Central Time zone to UTC. BTW, there is no mention of what time zone in the guidelines. They will also get an accurate count if they use UTC. It's relative, dude. IMHO, UTC is the best method since it is contained in the message header. Again, since apparently you missed that part of the message when logged into the FFL web page you get the times according to your zone not Central Time (unless you are in that zone). If you sign out and go to the that page you get the UTC times. BTW, I posted a count as of 5 PM PDT (0 hours UTC) last night but it must be stuck in the spam box.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
Richard J. Williams wrote: I have modified the program to look for messages beginning at 0 hours GMT (or UTC) on Saturdays. Turq wrote: But it's also completely meaningless. With all due respect for your efforts, dude, you didn't read the spec. The *definition* of when the posting week starts is midnight Friday *Fairfield time*. No other time zone even enters into the picture. With all due respect, *midnight Friday* is Thursday, whether it's GMT, CDT, or UTC. Zero hours (00:00) is 12 AM. So what is zero hours Saturday? 12 AM or what we call midnight. Don't blame me, most the populace gets confused over this and don't even try to explain time zones or especially day light time to them. Apparently some programmers don't get it either but it is a somewhat specialized field that I have to deal with quite a bit. The time in the message headers is 24 hour time from 0 to 24 hours (or more specifically 00:00:00 to 23:59:59). For simplicity in programming I was suggesting using UTC instead of Central which is going to change during DST. UTC is always the same (GMT actually goes to DST too).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
Human sacrifice in Hinduism from Wiki: -Human sacrifices were carried out in connection with the worship of Shakti till approximately the early modern period, and in Bengal perhaps as late as the early nineteenth century[28]. Certain tantric cults performed human sacrifice till around the same time, both actual and symbolic; it was a highly ritualised act, and on occasion took many months to complete[28]. The question of whether human sacrifice is permitted in the Vedas and, if so, was actually practiced is a matter of dispute by scholars. The prevailing nineteenth century view, associated above all with Henry Colebrooke, was that human sacrifice had little scriptural warrant, and did not actually take place. Those verses which referred to purusamedha were meant to be read symbolically[29] or as a 'priestly fantasy'. However, barely a generation later Albrecht Weber collected textplaces referring to human sacrifice with greater specificity; and Rajendralal Mitra published a defence of the thesis that human sacrifice, as had been practiced in Bengal, was a continuation of traditions dating back to Vedic periods[30]. Hermann Oldenberg held to Colebrooke's view; but Jan Gonda underlined its disputed status. It was agreed even by Colebrooke, however, that by the Puranic period - at least at the time of the writing of the Kalika Purana, human sacrifice was accepted[29]. These two periods, however were separated by a period of increasing embarrassment in the use of violence in worship, contemporaneous with the Upanishads. In the post-Puranic medieval period, however, it became increasingly common. In the seventh century, Banabhatta, in a description of the dedication of a temple of Chandika, describes a series of human sacrifices; similarly, in the ninth century, Haribhadra describes the sacrifices to Chandika in Orissa[31]. It was more common in the Southern parts of India, where it took on a scapegoating rather than purifying role[31]. The Khonds, an aboriginal tribe of India, inhabiting the tributary states of Orissa and Andhra Pradesh, became notorious, on the British occupation of their district about 1835, from the prevalence and cruelty of the human sacrifices they practised.[32 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I guess you can include the violence of Hinduism as well Bob re: MahaBharta, how many died in that great battle? You also forgot to mention why Moses the slaughter. Balaam was a swell guy now wasn't he? The warfare in the Mahabharata was between warriors on the huge battlefield on the plains of Kurukshetra, not the slaughter of innocent civilians. The only difference between Moses and the Israelis now killing civilians in Lebanon and wherever they can is that Moses liked to keep fresh young virgin girls around (not that Jews are any more or less disposed to slaughter than other peoples). Of course, you don't have enough brains to distinguish between killing a bad guy like Balaam and slaughtering an entire people, as if the existence of one bad guy could in any way justify the killing of defenseless women and children. You are at large, all right, but a mentality like yours, like other beastly proponents of slaughter of innocents, belongs in a cage at the zoo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Full length English version now on Google Video. Learn some history on the Religion of Peace in this controversial documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781 Link Everything you've always wanted to know about Islam but were afraid to ask. The feature documentary that discovers the basis of Muslim violence in the Koran and the life of Muhammad. When you consider the centuries and centuries of brutal warfare and exploitation by so-called Christians against other Xtians and other peoples, it's ridiculous to characterize Muslims as being any more violent, either in scripture or in historical fact, than Christians or Jews. Read the Bibles' Numbers 31, in which Moses ordered the slaughter of an entire group, allowing only the virgin girls to live: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. Good tip, thanks! I've lost a good few posts, and they never seem to be as good if I have another go, probably the disheartenment of having to plough through it all again. It varies with me. Sometimes the retread isn't nearly as good, but other times it's actually better. Depends on the state of my synapses at the time, I guess. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post. Not had that one as I'm on a shared computer, but worth bearing in mind if ever get my own. This particlular post- eater was a new one on me, I got an error message like yahoogroups was unable to retrieve message 1875330 and that was that. Yeah, that's another cutie. That's unrecoverable, as far as I can tell.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:37 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running... IT IS NOT COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. :) Take a look at the message header, dude. You don't get Fairfield time in the header. You mainly get either UTC or your current time. All I was proposing was to change it from the Central Time zone to UTC. BTW, there is no mention of what time zone in the guidelines. They will also get an accurate count if they use UTC. It's relative, dude. IMHO, UTC is the best method since it is contained in the message header. Again, since apparently you missed that part of the message when logged into the FFL web page you get the times according to your zone not Central Time (unless you are in that zone). If you sign out and go to the that page you get the UTC times. BTW, I posted a count as of 5 PM PDT (0 hours UTC) last night but it must be stuck in the spam box. UTC time is fine with me. It would make it a little harder for me to tally the posts, but if you're running this program and posting the results, then I don't have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And They're Off and Running...
Rick Archer wrote: UTC time is fine with me. It would make it a little harder for me to tally the posts, but if you're running this program and posting the results, then I don't have to. I will be posting the executables and source tonight so you can play with it if you want as well as anyone else. I'm not sure whether Outlook still uses a proprietary message storage format or mbox. If it is mbox the program will also work for you. All you have to do in Outlook is check from 7 PM Friday Central time as that is 0 hours UTC. However I'm sure as you realize that most people don't start posting again until Saturday morning if they've been over limit and are not waiting until midnight central time zone with baited breathe to start again. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising Insanity of the Age of Enlightment
What a bitch RJ, I spend half-an-hour answering every point here and the site crashes! Judy wrote: When I put a lot of time and thought into a post, before I hit Send I copy it into Notepad, just in case. It's saved my bacon many times. My favorite post-eater: Yahoo regularly asks you for your password (every two weeks or so), even when you stay signed in. Sometimes it does so just after you've hit Reply; but other times it does so just after you've typed your reply and hit Send. When it does that, goodbye post. Good point, Judy, but you could also just copy the post to your clipboard, just in case it didn't fly. Almost all of my messages I type in Editpad first, and then copy paste them into the Yahoo! Groups message window; then I save the messages in folders according to year and month. That way I have an archive of every important post I've ever submitted on my very own hard disk and burned to DVD for posterity, just in case the world burns up due to global warming. In that case, when I come back reborn as a troll, maybe I can find the disk and have a real ROTFLMAO! That would amount to over 8,000 messages between FFL and Usenet. While some others have posted messages that all begin with RE: and end on one line, I've written a whole book! Sorted by Date: http://tinyurl.com/32qan
[FairfieldLife] Obama
AP tally: Obama clinches Democratic nominationBy DAVID ESPO and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER - Associated Press Writers Last Updated 11:22 am PDT Tuesday, June 3, 2008 Print | E-Mail | Comments (28) | addthis_pub = 'sacbee'; addthis_offset_left = -2; Gallery: On the Trail WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday after a grueling marathon, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House. Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party. The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 15 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination. '); //-- The 46-year-old first-term senator will face John McCain in the fall campaign to become the 44th president. The Arizona senator campaigned in Memphis during the day, and had no immediate reaction to Obama's victory. Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. They stressed that the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans. Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy - all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner. With her husband's two-White House terms as a backdrop, Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One. But after a year on the campaign trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon. We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come, he said that night in Des Moines. A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's Yes, we can rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted. As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary. The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation. Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice, she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise. In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice. It was not a mistake they made again - which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland. Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.
[FairfieldLife] Re: add water to gas and double your milage ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=hondaxr650 Convert Your Car/Truck to BURN WATER as well as Gasoline--Double Your Mileage! anyone has any experiences along these lines? as I understand this, the wasted heat of the engine is simply used to convert a little water to steam which is then added to the gasoline and that this has been succesfully implemented by some doubling gas mileage, etc No, but this is really good: http://youtube.com/watch?v=7wdokimPWzo OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
Did you watch the movie from beginning to end? * I'm afraid you're not getting the point. This movie is right/fundie/zionist propaganda, designed to show the necessity of pounding the Islamic world into submission. What part of the movie would that have been? I must have missed it. *** It's not necessary, with the incendiary message that the movie touts, to call explicity for pounding Islam into submission (ironic, eh, since Islam means submission to the will of God). Those who have seen W.D. Griffith's movie Birth of a Nation know that the movie characterizes blacks as needing to be suppressed without saying so in so many words: The film is controversial due to its interpretation of history. University of Houston historian Steven Mintz summarises its message as follows: Reconstruction was a disaster, blacks could never be integrated into white society as equals, and the violent actions of the Ku Klux Klan were justified to reestablish honest government.[8] The film suggested that the Ku Klux Klan restored order to the post- war South, which was depicted as endangered by abolitionists, freedmen, and carpetbagging Republican politicians from the North. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation Prominently featured on the google video site is a link to World Ahead Publishing, a fundie extreme rightist group with a number of hysterical titles like their panic attack over Canada and Mexico: It sounds like the answer is no, you didn't watch the movie. What is it with people reviewing movies they've never seen? * I reviewed the message, not the movie, which I told you in my last post I would never waste an hour and a half of my life on viewing. And the message, mnade plain on the web site without the necessity of eyeballing 90 mins of dreary nonsense, is the same old bogus crap that understands nothing, being just a feeble-minded and paranoid response to a world in turmoil.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Human sacrifice in Hinduism from Wiki: ** There are no human-sacrifice rituals authorized by the Vedas -- those who think so are merely expressing the inability of their low consciousness to think in terms other than what would satisfy their blood lust. In fact, even animal sacrifice is not authorized: Brahmana who have access to knowledge of the veda which is the key to self-knowledge, misread and misinterpret the vaidika injunctions and indulge in drinking wine, animal sacrifice and sexual pleasure. The veda permitted these as a concession to the ignorant who have no self-control, and even then wine was only to be smelt, the animals should only adorn the ritual site, and sexual enjoyment be indulged in for the sake of progeny only. They who are ignorant of this, haughtily considering themselves wise, kill animals which in turn kill them when they depart from the world. from Book Eleven, Ch. 5 of the Concise Srimad Bhagavatam http://tinyurl.com/ywykn6 As far as Hindus go, of course they are capable of slaughter -- as many as a million people were killed when during Partition in 1947: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/05/india.theobserver The whole purpose of the TM movement is to raise the level of awareness to a point where people, regardless of their nominal relationship with a religion, do not find it necessary, because of their anxiety and frustration, to kill their neighbors. -Human sacrifices were carried out in connection with the worship of Shakti till approximately the early modern period, and in Bengal perhaps as late as the early nineteenth century[28]. Certain tantric cults performed human sacrifice till around the same time, both actual and symbolic; it was a highly ritualised act, and on occasion took many months to complete[28]. The question of whether human sacrifice is permitted in the Vedas and, if so, was actually practiced is a matter of dispute by scholars. The prevailing nineteenth century view, associated above all with Henry Colebrooke, was that human sacrifice had little scriptural warrant, and did not actually take place. Those verses which referred to purusamedha were meant to be read symbolically [29] or as a 'priestly fantasy'. However, barely a generation later Albrecht Weber collected textplaces referring to human sacrifice with greater specificity; and Rajendralal Mitra published a defence of the thesis that human sacrifice, as had been practiced in Bengal, was a continuation of traditions dating back to Vedic periods[30]. Hermann Oldenberg held to Colebrooke's view; but Jan Gonda underlined its disputed status. It was agreed even by Colebrooke, however, that by the Puranic period - at least at the time of the writing of the Kalika Purana, human sacrifice was accepted[29]. These two periods, however were separated by a period of increasing embarrassment in the use of violence in worship, contemporaneous with the Upanishads. In the post-Puranic medieval period, however, it became increasingly common. In the seventh century, Banabhatta, in a description of the dedication of a temple of Chandika, describes a series of human sacrifices; similarly, in the ninth century, Haribhadra describes the sacrifices to Chandika in Orissa[31]. It was more common in the Southern parts of India, where it took on a scapegoating rather than purifying role[31]. The Khonds, an aboriginal tribe of India, inhabiting the tributary states of Orissa and Andhra Pradesh, became notorious, on the British occupation of their district about 1835, from the prevalence and cruelty of the human sacrifices they practised.[32 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I guess you can include the violence of Hinduism as well Bob re: MahaBharta, how many died in that great battle? You also forgot to mention why Moses the slaughter. Balaam was a swell guy now wasn't he? The warfare in the Mahabharata was between warriors on the huge battlefield on the plains of Kurukshetra, not the slaughter of innocent civilians. The only difference between Moses and the Israelis now killing civilians in Lebanon and wherever they can is that Moses liked to keep fresh young virgin girls around (not that Jews are any more or less disposed to slaughter than other peoples). Of course, you don't have enough brains to distinguish between killing a bad guy like Balaam and slaughtering an entire people, as if the existence of one bad guy could in any way justify the killing of defenseless women and children. You are at large, all right, but a mentality like yours, like other beastly proponents of slaughter of innocents, belongs in a cage
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A battle between family members is perfectly fine I guess? How is your brother John doing? Say hi to him for me, Steve Gray from Avon Park, I'm sure he will remember me, and you verify whether he thinks I belong in a cage at a zoo. ** The battle depicted in the Mahabharata was between soldiers on a battlefield who had elected to take up weapons of their own free will and fight others (and of course, like in the U.S. Civil War, there were relatives on either side). There is no comparison to what is depicted in the Bible's book Numbers 31, in which Moses, post-battle, orders the execution of unarmed men, women, and children. I am not related to John Briganti, or any other Brigante/i in the TM movement AFAIK. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I guess you can include the violence of Hinduism as well Bob re: MahaBharta, how many died in that great battle? You also forgot to mention why Moses the slaughter. Balaam was a swell guy now wasn't he? The warfare in the Mahabharata was between warriors on the huge battlefield on the plains of Kurukshetra, not the slaughter of innocent civilians. The only difference between Moses and the Israelis now killing civilians in Lebanon and wherever they can is that Moses liked to keep fresh young virgin girls around (not that Jews are any more or less disposed to slaughter than other peoples). Of course, you don't have enough brains to distinguish between killing a bad guy like Balaam and slaughtering an entire people, as if the existence of one bad guy could in any way justify the killing of defenseless women and children. You are at large, all right, but a mentality like yours, like other beastly proponents of slaughter of innocents, belongs in a cage at the zoo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Full length English version now on Google Video. Learn some history on the Religion of Peace in this controversial documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781 Link Everything you've always wanted to know about Islam but were afraid to ask. The feature documentary that discovers the basis of Muslim violence in the Koran and the life of Muhammad. When you consider the centuries and centuries of brutal warfare and exploitation by so-called Christians against other Xtians and other peoples, it's ridiculous to characterize Muslims as being any more violent, either in scripture or in historical fact, than Christians or Jews. Read the Bibles' Numbers 31, in which Moses ordered the slaughter of an entire group, allowing only the virgin girls to live: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
There are no human-sacrifice rituals authorized by the Vedas -- those who think so are merely expressing the inability of their low consciousness to think in terms other than what would satisfy their blood lust. In fact, even animal sacrifice is not authorized: Starting with an ad hominem. Nice touch, it alerts the reader that we are about to hear an unsupported, poor argument. Brahmana who have access to knowledge of the veda which is the key to self-knowledge, misread and misinterpret the vaidika injunctions and indulge in drinking wine, animal sacrifice and sexual pleasure. The veda permitted these as a concession to the ignorant who have no self-control, So you found a contradiction in scriptures that were created years apart by different people. Imagine that. Now let's look at the claim itself. First it is claimed to be a concession to the ignorant. OK so let's see it this is plausible... and even then wine was only to be smelt, the animals should only adorn the ritual site, Yeah, when I want a shot of bourbon I just take a sniff. Works every time. And when I want a juicy burger I just go to a petting zoo. Great concession to my ignorance guys. Let me guess what is coming next, if I put a condom on my finger I wont need to get laid... and sexual enjoyment be indulged in for the sake of progeny only. So having sex as a means to increase intimacy in a loving relationship is out too huh? This is deep ignorance. Prudish proclamations that remind me of a the kind of people today who adapt a wide stance in public men's rooms. People who speak about sex as if it is sinful reveal their own lifeless hearts. And usually theocracy is not far behind...or a little behind is not far behind... They who are ignorant of this, haughtily considering themselves wise, kill animals which in turn kill them when they depart from the world. So the claim is that this guy knows that after we die, all the Big Macs we have eaten rise up and kill us again? Nice fantasy. snip The whole purpose of the TM movement is to raise the level of awareness to a point where people, regardless of their nominal relationship with a religion, do not find it necessary, because of their anxiety and frustration, to kill their neighbors. You mean unless Krishna asks you too right? This claim of more moral or ethical behavior in long term TM practitioners is another religious fantasy. In the TM group we see all kinds of people, no better or worse than any other mostly well educated group of people. Human monkeys kill other human monkeys, always have always will. Sometimes it is in the name of religion, sometimes for personal gain, sometimes for entertainment, and the list goes on and on. Any group who claims the higher ground and claims to never have killed, had better have the word Jain checked on their religious preference form. (That is unless anyone has some dirt on those guys too! -Human sacrifices were carried out in connection with the worship of Shakti till approximately the early modern period, and in Bengal perhaps as late as the early nineteenth century[28]. Certain tantric cults performed human sacrifice till around the same time, both actual and symbolic; it was a highly ritualised act, and on occasion took many months to complete[28]. The question of whether human sacrifice is permitted in the Vedas and, if so, was actually practiced is a matter of dispute by scholars. The prevailing nineteenth century view, associated above all with Henry Colebrooke, was that human sacrifice had little scriptural warrant, and did not actually take place. Those verses which referred to purusamedha were meant to be read symbolically [29] or as a 'priestly fantasy'. However, barely a generation later Albrecht Weber collected textplaces referring to human sacrifice with greater specificity; and Rajendralal Mitra published a defence of the thesis that human sacrifice, as had been practiced in Bengal, was a continuation of traditions dating back to Vedic periods[30]. Hermann Oldenberg held to Colebrooke's view; but Jan Gonda underlined its disputed status. It was agreed even by Colebrooke, however, that by the Puranic period - at least at the time of the writing of the Kalika Purana, human sacrifice was accepted[29]. These two periods, however were separated by a period of increasing embarrassment in the use of violence in worship, contemporaneous with the Upanishads. In the post-Puranic medieval period, however, it became increasingly common. In the seventh century, Banabhatta, in a description of the dedication of a temple of Chandika, describes a series of human sacrifices; similarly, in the ninth century, Haribhadra describes the sacrifices to Chandika in Orissa[31]. It was more common in the Southern parts of India, where it took on a scapegoating rather than
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:05 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I reviewed the message, not the movie, which I told you in my last post I would never waste an hour and a half of my life on viewing. And the message, mnade plain on the web site without the necessity of eyeballing 90 mins of dreary nonsense, is the same old bogus crap that understands nothing, being just a feeble-minded and paranoid response to a world in turmoil. You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. Or the people who told me I can't stand Michael Moore. Oh what movies didn't you like? You never even saw one? I have a real distaste for the disease of political correctness Bob and it's sister, the liberal knee- jerk. It's actually a great movie as the real solution isn't war but instead understanding the root problems and then taking action to change medieval mindsets. That probably means diplomacy and trade. They need the iPod and the iPhone and MTV and burka-less girls singing rap. War just further radicalizes the countries we invade, when instead they need to be brought into a more modern age. This will never happen with politically correct blindsidedness and hiding from history. Politically correct types will want to avoid this movie so it's probably best if you do make a wide swath around it mixed with some occasional lashing out. I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows.
[FairfieldLife] Dr. Weil on chia seed
Q What Is Chia? I heard that chia is a good source of omega-3 fatty acids, but I don't know what it is, where to get it or what to do with it. Can you enlighten me? A Answer (Published 5/15/2006) Chia is an edible seed that comes from the desert plant Salvia hispanica, a member of the mint family that grows abundantly in southern Mexico. You may have seen chia sprouts growing on the novelty planters called Chia Pets, but historically, the seeds have been the most important part of the plant. In pre-Columbian times they were a main component of the Aztec and Mayan diets and were the basic survival ration of Aztec warriors. I've read that one tablespoon was believed to sustain an individual for 24 hours. The Aztecs also used chia medicinally to stimulate saliva flow and to relieve joint pain and sore skin. Related Weil Products Dr. Weil on Healthy Aging for Healthy Eating - Looking for easy, healthy ways to eat? The Dr. Weil on Healthy Aging online guide has hundreds of recipes, eating guides, shopping lists and more. Don't miss out - join today and get 14 days free! Chia is very rich in omega-3 fatty acids, even more so than flax seeds. And it has another advantage over flax: chia is so rich in antioxidants that the seeds don't deteriorate and can be stored for long periods without becoming rancid. And, unlike flax, they do not have to be ground to make their nutrients available to the body. Chia seeds also provide fiber (25 grams give you 6.9 grams of fiber) as well as calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, manganese, copper, iron, molybdenum, niacin, and zinc. Another advantage: when added to water and allowed to sit for 30 minutes, chia forms a gel. Researchers suggest that this reaction also takes place in the stomach, slowing the process by which digestive enzymes break down carbohydrates and convert them into sugar. advertisement Chia has a nutlike flavor. You can mix seeds in water and add lime or lemon juice and sugar to make a drink known in Mexico and Central America as chia fresca. As with ground flax seeds, you can sprinkle ground or whole chia seeds on cereal, in yogurt or salads, eat them as a snack, or grind them and mix them with flour when making muffins or other baked goods. I find them tasty and an interesting addition to my diet. Chia is undergoing something of a renaissance after centuries of neglect. It was a major crop in central Mexico between 1500 and 900 B.C. and was still cultivated well into the 16th century, AD, but after the Spanish conquest, authorities banned it because of its close association with Aztec religion (Indians used the seeds as offerings in rituals). Until recently, chia was produced by only a few small growers, but commercial production has resumed in Latin America, and you can now buy the seeds online and in health food stores. Because of its nutritional value and stability, chia is already being added to a range of foods. Research has shown that adding it to chicken feed makes for eggs rich in omega-3s. Feeding chia to chickens enriches their meat with omega-3s; fed to cattle chia enriches milk with omega-3s. Chia can also be added to commercially prepared infant formulas, baby foods, baked goods, nutrition bars, yogurt, and other foods. Another bonus: insects don't like the chia plant so it is easier to find organically grown varieties. I expect we'll soon be hearing much more about chia and its health benefits. Andrew Weil, M.D.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:41 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows. Uh, Judy, we all heard your comments of Apocalypto. So, have you finally seen it? Pretty Vedic, huh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:41 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows. Uh, Judy, we all heard your comments of Apocalypto. Thank you for admitting that you lied. If you saw my comments, you know I didn't review it.
[FairfieldLife] Chopra on the Love-Guru
LOS ANGELES - Deepak Chopra has something to say about Hindu opposition to Mike Myers' new movie: Get over it. The best-selling author and spiritual teacher is defending The Love Guru, a comedy in which Myers plays an aspiring self-help guru who aims to achieve Chopra's level of popularity. Chopra posted an essay online in response to those in the Hindu community who say The Love Guru is offensive and mocks important tenets of their faith. The premature outcry against the movie is itself religious propaganda, Chopra writes, noting that the protesters based their views on the film's 2 1/2-minute trailer. As viewers will find out when the movie is released this summer, no one is more thoroughly skewered in it than I am you could even say that I am made to seem preposterous. Chopra, who makes a cameo appearance in the film, said he and Myers have been friends for 15 years. The two appeared together last year in an episode of Iconoclasts, a series of short documentaries on the Sundance Channel, and Myers wrote the foreword to Chopra's latest book, Why is God Laughing? which explores the relationship between comedy and spirituality. Chopra inadvertently inspired The Love Guru. During a period of depression, Myers discovered Chopra's books and videos and began imitating his accent, Chopra said. Myers tried out his new character in New York comedy clubs and began to write the film. The teachings in this comedy are fictional and non-denominational, Myers told The AP in a statement. They are based on a made up system called D.R.A.M.A. D.R.A.M.A. is Distraction, Regression, Adjustment, Maturity and Action. It's a mythical creation. It's like The Force in 'Star Wars.' The comedian sought Chopra's blessing on the concept and script before moving forward with the movie, Chopra told The Associated Press. He said, 'Listen, it's kind of a satire. It's a lampoon,' Chopra said, recalling Myers' words. He said on the surface it's like that, but on a deeper level, it's a tribute. Myers has the most profound understanding of Eastern wisdom, traditions and spirituality, Chopra said. In the end, the movie is about self-esteem and love. It is about, in fact, love being the ultimate truth. He goes about it in a very silly, humorous way, but that's his style. Rajan Zed, a self-described Hindu leader who has led protests against The Love Guru, says the film appears to be lampooning Hinduism and Hindus and uses sacred terms frivolously. People are not very well-versed in Hinduism, so this might be their only exposure, he told the AP in March. They will have an image in their minds of stereotypes. They will think most of us are like that. But Chopra, who cites various spiritual influences but does not consider himself religious in the traditional sense, said the film is all in fun and could increase awareness of Hindu culture. He called Zed's efforts a cry for importance and a sign of deep insecurity. It's a sign that your faith has become a cover up for all your insecurities because you can't even take a joke, Chopra said. Mike is bringing attention to some very profound truths and these people haven't even seen the movie. Paramount Pictures is set to release The Love Guru June 20. ___ On the Net:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama
WOOOHHOOO --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP tally: Obama clinches Democratic nomination WOOOHHOOO My second choice for President, after Ron Paul. Obama can gain respect around the world and work with people, unlike Clinton and McCain (too much old school baggage)h OffWorld By DAVID ESPO and STEPHEN OHLEMACHER - Associated Press Writers Last Updated 11:22 am PDT Tuesday, June 3, 2008 Print | E-Mail | Comments (28) | addthis_pub = 'sacbee'; addthis_offset_left = -2; Gallery: On the Trail WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday after a grueling marathon, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House. Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party. The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 15 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination. '); //-- The 46-year-old first-term senator will face John McCain in the fall campaign to become the 44th president. The Arizona senator campaigned in Memphis during the day, and had no immediate reaction to Obama's victory. Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. They stressed that the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans. Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy - all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner. With her husband's two-White House terms as a backdrop, Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One. But after a year on the campaign trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon. We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come, he said that night in Des Moines. A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's Yes, we can rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted. As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary. The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation. Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice, she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise. In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice. It was not a mistake they made again - which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland. Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.
[FairfieldLife] Kirpal Singh visits Rishikesh, comments on the Sahasra.
For those unfamiliar with Sant Mat, a major goal (as a required means toward what they call Self and God Realization), is rising above bodily consciousness - i.e. separation of the subtle body into higher dimensions via the 3-rd eye. The phrase transcending the body in Singh's tradition has an altogether different meaning than MMY's usage of the term transcendence. In the following narrative, Kirpal Singh (died in 1974) makes a curious statement regarding a Yogi from Rishikesh who had attained the Sahasra or first plane level: When my Master left the body, I had to go to the wilderness. I had some experience of the jungle and secluded places for five or six months. I went to [Rishikesh] the home of Hindu theology, so to say. Shivananda, who has since passed away, lived there, and many other yogis as well. I went there and lived in a jungle across the river. I met everybody. All were intellectual wrestlers; debating clubs; all performing this elementary step: how to say prayers, how to perform certain rites and certain rituals. And most of them were doing hatha yoga practices. Of course, with due deference to it, it makes the body fit - that's all right. There was also one fellow, who is still alive, called Raghuvacharya. He's an old man now - I think 106 -107 years old - but he gets around like anything. When I went to see him, people said, Oh, he never cares for anybody. When I was about more than 100 or 150 yards away, he appeared; he was sitting on his feet. He looked at me and he stood up. People said, That's strange. He has never cared for any man, yet he stood up. He came forward and met me, and we had a talk. And in the talk it came out that he went to the first plane: to Sahasrara. I found only one man who had transcended the body and reached the first stage. He said that what he had learned by going through all the Shastras, Vedas and Upanishads, I have come to know something which you speak by yourself! [Raghuvacharya left the earth plane in 1971, at the age of 115.] That is the grace of my Master. Masters give you a digest of all this knowledge, which is called para vidya. So I found only one man there. The world is not without them, but there have been very few in the past, and even now there are few. You'll find that most of them will give you only: Read this mantra, this shabda, this scripture, daily. They'll simply perform this ritual in this way or perform that prayer by lighting a candle or ringing a bell - whatever is the custom. Everyone has his own rituals and rites. That is right; prayer is a very good thing: the prayer that gushes out of the heart, God hears, and He makes some arrangement to bring you to Him. And some people direct you to make your body fit. That's good; but that's not spirituality: that's a helping factor for spirituality. Some teach you how to prolong your life - that's all right. Some teach you how to mesmerize others, how to hypnotize others, how you can read the minds of others. But all this is not spirituality. How many are there who really give you an experience of how to rise above body- consciousness?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
-Nice Curtis, Bob is just one big projection isn't he? Blood lust, virgins, sex, low consciousness, moving into a strange and weird space. Sort of cosmic bullying I guess. Well cheers my friend, pulled any rabbits out of a lately ? :) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no human-sacrifice rituals authorized by the Vedas -- those who think so are merely expressing the inability of their low consciousness to think in terms other than what would satisfy their blood lust. In fact, even animal sacrifice is not authorized: Starting with an ad hominem. Nice touch, it alerts the reader that we are about to hear an unsupported, poor argument. Brahmana who have access to knowledge of the veda which is the key to self-knowledge, misread and misinterpret the vaidika injunctions and indulge in drinking wine, animal sacrifice and sexual pleasure. The veda permitted these as a concession to the ignorant who have no self-control, So you found a contradiction in scriptures that were created years apart by different people. Imagine that. Now let's look at the claim itself. First it is claimed to be a concession to the ignorant. OK so let's see it this is plausible... and even then wine was only to be smelt, the animals should only adorn the ritual site, Yeah, when I want a shot of bourbon I just take a sniff. Works every time. And when I want a juicy burger I just go to a petting zoo. Great concession to my ignorance guys. Let me guess what is coming next, if I put a condom on my finger I wont need to get laid... and sexual enjoyment be indulged in for the sake of progeny only. So having sex as a means to increase intimacy in a loving relationship is out too huh? This is deep ignorance. Prudish proclamations that remind me of a the kind of people today who adapt a wide stance in public men's rooms. People who speak about sex as if it is sinful reveal their own lifeless hearts. And usually theocracy is not far behind...or a little behind is not far behind... They who are ignorant of this, haughtily considering themselves wise, kill animals which in turn kill them when they depart from the world. So the claim is that this guy knows that after we die, all the Big Macs we have eaten rise up and kill us again? Nice fantasy. snip The whole purpose of the TM movement is to raise the level of awareness to a point where people, regardless of their nominal relationship with a religion, do not find it necessary, because of their anxiety and frustration, to kill their neighbors. You mean unless Krishna asks you too right? This claim of more moral or ethical behavior in long term TM practitioners is another religious fantasy. In the TM group we see all kinds of people, no better or worse than any other mostly well educated group of people. Human monkeys kill other human monkeys, always have always will. Sometimes it is in the name of religion, sometimes for personal gain, sometimes for entertainment, and the list goes on and on. Any group who claims the higher ground and claims to never have killed, had better have the word Jain checked on their religious preference form. (That is unless anyone has some dirt on those guys too! -Human sacrifices were carried out in connection with the worship of Shakti till approximately the early modern period, and in Bengal perhaps as late as the early nineteenth century[28]. Certain tantric cults performed human sacrifice till around the same time, both actual and symbolic; it was a highly ritualised act, and on occasion took many months to complete[28]. The question of whether human sacrifice is permitted in the Vedas and, if so, was actually practiced is a matter of dispute by scholars. The prevailing nineteenth century view, associated above all with Henry Colebrooke, was that human sacrifice had little scriptural warrant, and did not actually take place. Those verses which referred to purusamedha were meant to be read symbolically [29] or as a 'priestly fantasy'. However, barely a generation later Albrecht Weber collected textplaces referring to human sacrifice with greater specificity; and Rajendralal Mitra published a defence of the thesis that human sacrifice, as had been practiced in Bengal, was a continuation of traditions dating back to Vedic periods[30]. Hermann Oldenberg held to Colebrooke's view; but Jan Gonda underlined its disputed status. It was agreed even by Colebrooke, however, that by the Puranic period - at least at the time of the writing of the Kalika Purana, human sacrifice was accepted[29]. These two periods, however were separated by a period of increasing embarrassment in the use of violence in worship, contemporaneous with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Nice Curtis, Bob is just one big projection isn't he? Blood lust, virgins, sex, low consciousness, moving into a strange and weird space. Sort of cosmic bullying I guess. Hey Steve, Bob posts some great stuff sometimes so I consider him a valued contributor, even if the contribution is something I totally disagree with. But accusing someone of low consciousness because they can read and quote history seemed a bit much. Plus it allowed me to use the words, bourbon and sex in the same post so I am a happy camper! I really enjoyed your post and love to read about history, especially when it involves the Maharishi's deified Vedic culture. I am highly skeptical that they rose above the general asshole level of most societies ancient and modern. I am also shocked beyond belief that one of the most popular religions of our time performs a mock cannibalistic rite each Sunday. Maximum creepy, despite the Sermon on the Mount's positive (but juvenile) vibe. And with the last 8 years of our country I can't even effectively be condescending about ancient cultures. We are running the same routines in this day and age. What a bunch of apes! Well cheers my friend, pulled any rabbits out of a lately ? :) Every day brother, every day! My latest rabbit: http://tinyurl.com/6f63dp -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: There are no human-sacrifice rituals authorized by the Vedas -- those who think so are merely expressing the inability of their low consciousness to think in terms other than what would satisfy their blood lust. In fact, even animal sacrifice is not authorized: Starting with an ad hominem. Nice touch, it alerts the reader that we are about to hear an unsupported, poor argument. Brahmana who have access to knowledge of the veda which is the key to self-knowledge, misread and misinterpret the vaidika injunctions and indulge in drinking wine, animal sacrifice and sexual pleasure. The veda permitted these as a concession to the ignorant who have no self-control, So you found a contradiction in scriptures that were created years apart by different people. Imagine that. Now let's look at the claim itself. First it is claimed to be a concession to the ignorant. OK so let's see it this is plausible... and even then wine was only to be smelt, the animals should only adorn the ritual site, Yeah, when I want a shot of bourbon I just take a sniff. Works every time. And when I want a juicy burger I just go to a petting zoo. Great concession to my ignorance guys. Let me guess what is coming next, if I put a condom on my finger I wont need to get laid... and sexual enjoyment be indulged in for the sake of progeny only. So having sex as a means to increase intimacy in a loving relationship is out too huh? This is deep ignorance. Prudish proclamations that remind me of a the kind of people today who adapt a wide stance in public men's rooms. People who speak about sex as if it is sinful reveal their own lifeless hearts. And usually theocracy is not far behind...or a little behind is not far behind... They who are ignorant of this, haughtily considering themselves wise, kill animals which in turn kill them when they depart from the world. So the claim is that this guy knows that after we die, all the Big Macs we have eaten rise up and kill us again? Nice fantasy. snip The whole purpose of the TM movement is to raise the level of awareness to a point where people, regardless of their nominal relationship with a religion, do not find it necessary, because of their anxiety and frustration, to kill their neighbors. You mean unless Krishna asks you too right? This claim of more moral or ethical behavior in long term TM practitioners is another religious fantasy. In the TM group we see all kinds of people, no better or worse than any other mostly well educated group of people. Human monkeys kill other human monkeys, always have always will. Sometimes it is in the name of religion, sometimes for personal gain, sometimes for entertainment, and the list goes on and on. Any group who claims the higher ground and claims to never have killed, had better have the word Jain checked on their religious preference form. (That is unless anyone has some dirt on those guys too! -Human sacrifices were carried out in connection with the worship of Shakti till approximately the early modern period, and in Bengal perhaps as late as the early nineteenth century[28]. Certain tantric cults performed human sacrifice till around the same time, both actual and symbolic; it was a highly ritualised act, and on occasion took
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
I OBJECT !! ! I am sure I have at least 45 posts by now to put me on the TOP of the list, and putting poor old buttslicer down at the bottom of the list, as you did, just shows how sick and prejudice you people at FFL really are ! OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat May 31 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 7 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 372 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jun 4 00:13:10 2008 Member Posts authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]35 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25 sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]25 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]17 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]16 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]7 dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]7 sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED]4 amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 artkonrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 sriswamijisadhaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 yermama472 [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Brian Horsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 seekliberation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 okpeachman2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com1 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 John [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 posters: 50
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Correction, the aforementioned below should have read buttsplicer, not buttslicer. The difference is like two entirely different universes as you know. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I OBJECT !! ! I am sure I have at least 45 posts by now to put me on the TOP of the list, and putting poor old buttslicer down at the bottom of the list, as you did, just shows how sick and prejudice you people at FFL really are ! OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat May 31 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 7 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 372 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jun 4 00:13:10 2008 Member Posts authfriend jstein@ 42 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]35 Richard J. Williams willytex@ 25 sandiego108 sandiego108@25 Vaj vajradhatu@ 23 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 21 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 19 Rick Archer rick@17 Bhairitu noozguru@16 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 yifuxero yifuxero@ 8 mrfishey2001 mrfishey2001@ 8 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Peter drpetersutphen@ 7 Louis McKenzie ltm457@7 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@7 sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 5 boo_lives boo_lives@4 amarnath anatol_zinc@ 3 artkonrad artkonrad@3 Hugo richardhughes103@3 Robert babajii_99@3 tertonzeno tertonzeno@ 3 BillyG. wgm4u@ 3 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 do.rflex do.rflex@ 2 Patrick Gillam jpgillam@2 new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 sriswamijisadhaka sriswamijisadhaka@2 yermama472 [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 feste37 feste37@2 gullible fool fflmod@ 1 Brian Horsfield horsfield@ 1 R.G. babajii_99@1 Dick Mays dickmays@ 1 wayback71 wayback71@1 seekliberation seekliberation@ 1 okpeachman2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com1 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ 1 Tom azgrey@ 1 Richard M compost1uk@ 1 george_deforest george.deforest@1 John jr_esq@1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ 1 Marek Reavis reavismarek@ 1 Stu buttsplicer@1 posters: 50
[FairfieldLife] Statement of Maharshi Mehi Paramhans (1885-1986)
This Guru sought to fuse Sant Mat with the traditional Vedic sciences; but having a background in Sant Mat, his position on God is quite clear: one's subtle body must be able to separate itself from the physical body; and only then does true knowledge of God take place. A devotee is driven by an intense zeal to see God. That alone is the ultimate goal. The jeevaatmaa would identify itself and the God with the help of, or through, itself, but only after getting detached from the body, organs, (mind and intellect). We should learn the way to get detached from the body, organs, mind and intellect, the way to identify our own Self. The practice (of the method thus learnt) should be so vigorous that we can lift ourselves beyond body, organs etc; so that we can abide within ourselves as well as identify God. Sants have taught the way to this. For instance, what is `roop' (form/shape)? That which can be known with eyes. What is `shabd' (sound or word)? That which our ears can grasp. What is `ras' (taste)? That which can be perceived by the tongue. What is `gandha' (smell)? That which can be detected by the nose. What is `sparsh'? That which is discernible through the skin. Likewise, what is God? What are you within yourself? The answer to both these questions is the same: that which you (the soul) can identify within yourself. God is perceived through perception of the Self. Whatever is perceived by the conscious soul, transcending all the domains of `jad' (ignorant or devoid of consciousness) is God. What is God? That which is knowable only to the pure, conscious soul. The method or the means, through which the conscious soul can separate itself from the body, organs, (mind, intellect etc) and can keep it with itself, all alone, is the (truest or genuine) worship of God. Please keep this in mind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Statement of Maharshi Mehi Paramhans (1885-1986)
Maya...subtle bodies..bullshit. Lower knowledge ;-) --- yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Guru sought to fuse Sant Mat with the traditional Vedic sciences; but having a background in Sant Mat, his position on God is quite clear: one's subtle body must be able to separate itself from the physical body; and only then does true knowledge of God take place. A devotee is driven by an intense zeal to see God. That alone is the ultimate goal. The jeevaatmaa would identify itself and the God with the help of, or through, itself, but only after getting detached from the body, organs, (mind and intellect). We should learn the way to get detached from the body, organs, mind and intellect, the way to identify our own Self. The practice (of the method thus learnt) should be so vigorous that we can lift ourselves beyond body, organs etc; so that we can abide within ourselves as well as identify God. Sants have taught the way to this. For instance, what is `roop' (form/shape)? That which can be known with eyes. What is `shabd' (sound or word)? That which our ears can grasp. What is `ras' (taste)? That which can be perceived by the tongue. What is `gandha' (smell)? That which can be detected by the nose. What is `sparsh'? That which is discernible through the skin. Likewise, what is God? What are you within yourself? The answer to both these questions is the same: that which you (the soul) can identify within yourself. God is perceived through perception of the Self. Whatever is perceived by the conscious soul, transcending all the domains of `jad' (ignorant or devoid of consciousness) is God. What is God? That which is knowable only to the pure, conscious soul. The method or the means, through which the conscious soul can separate itself from the body, organs, (mind, intellect etc) and can keep it with itself, all alone, is the (truest or genuine) worship of God. Please keep this in mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Thanx Marcelo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Statement of Maharshi Mehi Paramhans (1885-1986)
---This could be what Ramakrishna called going into Samadhi. Don't be so hasty in your judgements, Dr.. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maya...subtle bodies..bullshit. Lower knowledge ;-) --- yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Guru sought to fuse Sant Mat with the traditional Vedic sciences; but having a background in Sant Mat, his position on God is quite clear: one's subtle body must be able to separate itself from the physical body; and only then does true knowledge of God take place. A devotee is driven by an intense zeal to see God. That alone is the ultimate goal. The jeevaatmaa would identify itself and the God with the help of, or through, itself, but only after getting detached from the body, organs, (mind and intellect). We should learn the way to get detached from the body, organs, mind and intellect, the way to identify our own Self. The practice (of the method thus learnt) should be so vigorous that we can lift ourselves beyond body, organs etc; so that we can abide within ourselves as well as identify God. Sants have taught the way to this. For instance, what is `roop' (form/shape)? That which can be known with eyes. What is `shabd' (sound or word)? That which our ears can grasp. What is `ras' (taste)? That which can be perceived by the tongue. What is `gandha' (smell)? That which can be detected by the nose. What is `sparsh'? That which is discernible through the skin. Likewise, what is God? What are you within yourself? The answer to both these questions is the same: that which you (the soul) can identify within yourself. God is perceived through perception of the Self. Whatever is perceived by the conscious soul, transcending all the domains of `jad' (ignorant or devoid of consciousness) is God. What is God? That which is knowable only to the pure, conscious soul. The method or the means, through which the conscious soul can separate itself from the body, organs, (mind, intellect etc) and can keep it with itself, all alone, is the (truest or genuine) worship of God. Please keep this in mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
It'll cost you $2500 to find out!
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I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17
years , I would
like to know what is the advanced technique number 6
somebody
would know to inform ? believe that the sequence
that is published in
trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform
what is the technique
number 6 correct ?
Thanx
Marcelo
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Feste/Special Message from Pleiadian's Regarding Presidential Election/Lou Valentino
Dude, I score all the time with 'em! --- gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is amazing. They sound just like earth people! Peter, do you think Pleiadian girls are easy, too? --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hey Feste/Special Message from Pleiadian's Regarding Presidential Election/Lou Valentino To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 12:56 PM Hey Feste! This one wins over the Mother divine one! --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Message from A Pleiadian Volunteer By Lou Valentino Dear spiritual friends, astrology clients, yoga students and teachers, America has been deeply touched by two very bright lights. The interracial canadate Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton. A mixture of many shades of light and yet America can feel one light among humanity that is burning beneath their feet that both of these canadates walk on. The earth herself is feeling the energy of all of the people who have gathered together in unity in favor of each of their chosen canadate. The Pleiadian culture resides in the 4th and 5th levels of the sixth dimension. We are one of the inter-dimensional races that is over looking this wonderful political phenomenon. In our culture we have a saying about planet earth âO boy, here they go againâ trying to make it harder than it has to be. You see we work together very well. The flow of light wave energy is more fluid as we live in very refined etheric bodies. Our bodies have lost a distinct difference between what you would consider the sexes. Our bodies resemble a very fine suit of light and what you would consider the private area because of your sexual guilt trips laid on you by your religious leaders resembles a womenâs virgina. We are an androgynous culture that has transcended the need to define ourselves as opposing sexual beings that identify with gross matter that only separates earthlings in a way that complicates things. We exchange light between us every opportunity that we can in order to experience what we call the cosmic climax of light that is located most in the head area. No, we donât mean the penis head area. We are talking about the neurophysiologic climax in the brain area. The political complications that have come up lately regarding the presidential choice for the Democratic Party is much more important than you all realize. Human beings on earth love to take sides. Duality is the hallmark of a human race on earth which has created a struggle on your planet that is not needed. The more innocent and pliable energy of women on your planet is better in regards to creating a more sensitive approach to the protection of mother earth, children and animals. All of the presidential males in America have created wars. They refuse to give up the reptilian part of the brain which has descended on them thousands of years ago. Our culture would have rather seen a women step in to start the process. Hillary Clinton has been misdiagnosed by many earthlings due to a very repressed female energy on your planet. Women more than men seem to despise her. The female species makes up all kinds of reasons as to why she should not be President of America. They say she is not soft enough, kind enough, a liar and so on. Yet, the ego fails to realize that she is the only women in Americaâs history who has had the courage to give it a try. Maybe the first time riding a bicycle looks a bit awkward but eventually the bicycle ride becomes smoother and more enjoyable. Your planet is a very judgmental planet. People believe everything they hear from the news media and become robotic in nature when making choices. Women have been persecuted since the fall of Atlantis some 11,500 years ago and the balance between the female and male polarities has been very destructive to what you call the human race. Senator Barak Obama is a very intelligent, warm, compassionate and interracial canadate who will bring in a new energy that brings many people together. His ability to speak to an audience to get his message across of unity and compassion for fellow man to unite all races is a very enlightening message that the Pleiadian culture agrees with and many other inter-dimensional beings. It is a message from the sixth dimension which embraces every being as reflecting an oneness of light. Our friend Lou Valentino, who is lovable to say the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
I didn't realize that the release would be so earth shaking (about a 3.9 Richter ) but then Sun, Moon, Venus and Mercury are all aligned tonight so it should have been inevitable. With that alignment there should be a big one somewhere anytime in the next few days. off_world_beings wrote: I OBJECT !! ! I am sure I have at least 45 posts by now to put me on the TOP of the list, and putting poor old buttslicer down at the bottom of the list, as you did, just shows how sick and prejudice you people at FFL really are ! OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
Marcelo, it seems to vary. For me, I believe my fifth advanced technique was what was given out to teachers in the early days as the 'age of enlightenment techniques' and the sixth advanced technique was another elongated mantra. When I applied for a seventh advanced technique, I was told by the teacher, after the puja of course, that I already had the most I could get (I rushed back from a one-day round trip from Boston to NJ to stand in line for nothing - typical movement). If I had not received the primordial sound technique from Chopra, I would have received a seventh advanced technique right then. If I had recently become a teacher, I would have been eligible for a seventh advanced technique that only teachers can get. However, if I had been a teacher way back in the early days and received the age of enlightenment techniques back then, then my fifth advanced techniques would have likely been the elongated mantra I received for my sixth advanced technique and the technique that only teachers could get would have been my sixtha dvanced technique. So, I topped out at only six, but if I had been a teacher who had not received the age of enlightenment techniques and I had not paid Chopra 700 dollars for a mis-pronounced phrase I could have received in advanced technique form for 400 dollars (again, typical movement), I could have had eight advanced techniques. --- On Tue, 6/3/08, marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 10:46 PM Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Thanx Marcelo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] About Fairfield
About Fairfield, What I like about Fairfield is that every day, just like ancient India, people come together and meditate as a group. And that's a very, very powerful cosmic beautiful thing. Major beautiful. And in this community, if you go around and meet people, they're absolutely unique individuals. You like sitting with every one of them. They're bright- eyed; they're eager to listen to you; and there's a big understanding and appreciation for life. It's very special. -David Lynch http://radishmagazine.com/
[FairfieldLife] A reason Why?
Barack Obama is now faced with many challenges. One of those challenges is in choosing people who will maintain respect for him in hard times and good times. The dynamics of white and black are such that a white guy will always have a thought that he has entitlement. Example: I once lived in Land O Lakes Florida I was buying a restaurant in Dade City Florida. While working to get the restaurant open I met many people of various backgrounds the conversations were always interesting but the general rule was that if there was a white guy working with me the people always assumed he was the owner. As commander and chief this could be a problem. The difference between Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton is that Hillary has walked the road with Obama. She has been a big sister she has whipped his ass and made him tough, she has maybe even made him cry at times but you know she made him the nominee, she brought him to his greatness. She has been his PUSH she has allowed him to unfold himself to the world. I applaud Hillary Clinton God and Nature for the beauty of how she works.. I endorse Hillary Clinton for Democratic Nominee for Vice President of the United States of America..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kirpal Singh visits Rishikesh, comments on the Sahasra.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those unfamiliar with Sant Mat, a major goal Goals are for goal seekers. People seek goals because they have lost the m Self es. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count -- blame it on ButtSplicer
I blame it on Buttsplicer, who is at the bottom of the list. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't realize that the release would be so earth shaking (about a 3.9 Richter ) but then Sun, Moon, Venus and Mercury are all aligned tonight so it should have been inevitable. With that alignment there should be a big one somewhere anytime in the next few days. off_world_beings wrote: I OBJECT !! ! I am sure I have at least 45 posts by now to put me on the TOP of the list, and putting poor old buttslicer down at the bottom of the list, as you did, just shows how sick and prejudice you people at FFL really are ! OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat May 31 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 7 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 372 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jun 4 00:13:10 2008 Member Posts authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42 TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]35 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25 sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]25 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]17 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]16 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]7 dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]7 sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED]4 amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 artkonrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 sriswamijisadhaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 yermama472 [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Brian Horsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 seekliberation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 okpeachman2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com1 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 John [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 posters: 50
[FairfieldLife] Re: ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
Ok gullible Right , technique of number 5 that I there are is the 'acts of enlightenment techniques' I believe that the technique number 6 is one more namah (Sri Sri xxx namah NAMAH) which is its technique number 6 ? Good luck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcelo, it seems to vary. For me, I believe my fifth advanced technique was what was given out to teachers in the early days as the 'age of enlightenment techniques' and the sixth advanced technique was another elongated mantra. When I applied for a seventh advanced technique, I was told by the teacher, after the puja of course, that I already had the most I could get (I rushed back from a one-day round trip from Boston to NJ to stand in line for nothing - typical movement). If I had not received the primordial sound technique from Chopra, I would have received a seventh advanced technique right then. If I had recently become a teacher, I would have been eligible for a seventh advanced technique that only teachers can get. However, if I had been a teacher way back in the early days and received the age of enlightenment techniques back then, then my fifth advanced techniques would have likely been the elongated mantra I received for my sixth advanced technique and the technique that only teachers could get would have been my sixtha dvanced technique. So, I topped out at only six, but if I had been a teacher who had not received the age of enlightenment techniques and I had not paid Chopra 700 dollars for a mis-pronounced phrase I could have received in advanced technique form for 400 dollars (again, typical movement), I could have had eight advanced techniques. --- On Tue, 6/3/08, marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 10:46 PM Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Thanx Marcelo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
Ok gullible Right , the technique of number 5 that I there are is the 'age of enlightenment techniques' I believe that the technique number 6 is one more namah (Sri Sri xxx namah NAMAH) which is its technique number 6 ? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcelo, it seems to vary. For me, I believe my fifth advanced technique was what was given out to teachers in the early days as the 'age of enlightenment techniques' and the sixth advanced technique was another elongated mantra. When I applied for a seventh advanced technique, I was told by the teacher, after the puja of course, that I already had the most I could get (I rushed back from a one-day round trip from Boston to NJ to stand in line for nothing - typical movement). If I had not received the primordial sound technique from Chopra, I would have received a seventh advanced technique right then. If I had recently become a teacher, I would have been eligible for a seventh advanced technique that only teachers can get. However, if I had been a teacher way back in the early days and received the age of enlightenment techniques back then, then my fifth advanced techniques would have likely been the elongated mantra I received for my sixth advanced technique and the technique that only teachers could get would have been my sixtha dvanced technique. So, I topped out at only six, but if I had been a teacher who had not received the age of enlightenment techniques and I had not paid Chopra 700 dollars for a mis-pronounced phrase I could have received in advanced technique form for 400 dollars (again, typical movement), I could have had eight advanced techniques. --- On Tue, 6/3/08, marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 10:46 PM Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Thanx Marcelo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
I think that's what some website says, but my sixth advanced had the middle part repeated. I got a single 'namah' at the end for my first advanced and never got more than the one 'namah'. --- On Tue, 6/3/08, marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 11:41 PM Ok gullible Right , technique of number 5 that I there are is the 'acts of enlightenment techniques' I believe that the technique number 6 is one more namah (Sri Sri xxx namah NAMAH) which is its technique number 6 ? Good luck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcelo, it seems to vary. For me, I believe my fifth advanced technique was what was given out to teachers in the early days as the 'age of enlightenment techniques' and the sixth advanced technique was another elongated mantra. When I applied for a seventh advanced technique, I was told by the teacher, after the puja of course, that I already had the most I could get (I rushed back from a one-day round trip from Boston to NJ to stand in line for nothing - typical movement). If I had not received the primordial sound technique from Chopra, I would have received a seventh advanced technique right then. If I had recently become a teacher, I would have been eligible for a seventh advanced technique that only teachers can get. However, if I had been a teacher way back in the early days and received the age of enlightenment techniques back then, then my fifth advanced techniques would have likely been the elongated mantra I received for my sixth advanced technique and the technique that only teachers could get would have been my sixtha dvanced technique. So, I topped out at only six, but if I had been a teacher who had not received the age of enlightenment techniques and I had not paid Chopra 700 dollars for a mis-pronounced phrase I could have received in advanced technique form for 400 dollars (again, typical movement), I could have had eight advanced techniques. --- On Tue, 6/3/08, marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: marciohal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 10:46 PM Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Thanx Marcelo To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] ADVANCED TECNIQUES NUNBER 6
On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:46 PM, marciohal wrote: Hi I am tm-sidhis practitioner and am practicing to 17 years , I would like to know what is the advanced technique number 6 somebody would know to inform ? believe that the sequence that is published in trancenet.org this wrong , somebody could inform what is the technique number 6 correct ? Hi Marcelo, The 6th advanced technique? I'm think it was ka-ching! or something very similar. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:05 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I reviewed the message, not the movie, which I told you in my last post I would never waste an hour and a half of my life on viewing. And the message, mnade plain on the web site without the necessity of eyeballing 90 mins of dreary nonsense, is the same old bogus crap that understands nothing, being just a feeble-minded and paranoid response to a world in turmoil. You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. Or the people who told me I can't stand Michael Moore. Oh what movies didn't you like? You never even saw one? I have a real distaste for the disease of political correctness Bob and it's sister, the liberal knee- jerk. It's actually a great movie as the real solution isn't war but instead understanding the root problems and then taking action to change medieval mindsets. That probably means diplomacy and trade. They need the iPod and the iPhone and MTV and burka-less girls singing rap. War just further radicalizes the countries we invade, when instead they need to be brought into a more modern age. This will never happen with politically correct blindsidedness and hiding from history. Politically correct types will want to avoid this movie so it's probably best if you do make a wide swath around it mixed with some occasional lashing out. I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) *** With a national consciousness so abysmal that Dumbya is in the White House (to be followed by the even more ogrish McCain), it is the U.S. and its allies that qualify for the term medieval mindsets, so it's the rankest horseshit for the U.S. to be telling anybody how to live. You know, I liked Oliver Stone's JFK -- as entertainment -- it was, of course, a complete fantasy other than the fact that JFK was shot, but as entertainment it worked for me. I do not require a movie to have even a scrap of reality, even when it is posturing as being historically accurate to one degree or another. But there was no need to watch this anti-Islam screed because there was no intent to amuse, which means that it had to stand on its merits as being accurate and reasonable. And it was clear from the promo material for the movie that this was not what its creators intended or were capable of. The movie was intended to blast Islamic scripture and history without projecting even a shadow of criticism towards the many awful passages of Christian scripture (I cited the Bible's Numbers 31, with its genocidal baby-killer Moses) and two centuries of brutality and nearly non-stop warfare by so-called Christian countries. I didn't review this as I would JFK, which would certainly require seeing the movie. I reviewed the ideas of this movie, which could be obtained from the promo materials. The notion that I could not criticize the thinking shown by the filmmakers without wasting 90 minutes watching this dreary crap is just nonsense, but if that's the spin you're happy with, knock yourself out. If you want to get along with the Islamic world, start by not giving $3 billion worth of the most advanced weapons every year to Israel so they can kill their neighbors. A good first step like that would do wonders to end the crusaders and the response to the crusaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows. Enough of this crap. Please see FFL post #126122, pasted in below. Please note the title of the post, which is by Judy. Note also the sections I have highlighted with ** within the post, which are also written by Judy Stein. T'would seem that Judy is playing word games again. To her, I have never 'reviewed' a movie I haven't seen means the same thing that I didn't lose the Presidential nomin- ation means to Hillary Clinton. Judy has *still* never seen the film, and will claim until her dying day that the phrases Mel Gibson, Christian bigot, and Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity are not reviews of a film she has never seen. For the record, I *did* see the film, twice. I thought it was pretty damned good, and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with what Mr. Canuto saw through his jealousy-colored glasses and what Judy Stein imagined there, without even having seen the movie. I leave it to the other Fairfield Lifers to determine who the liar is in this situation. Mel Gibson, Christian bigot Maya in the Thunderdome By Marcello A. Canuto Dec. 15, 2006 | As a scholar of the Maya civilization, I was anxious to see Mel Gibson's portrayal of the Maya in Apocalypto. Of course, I realize the movie is not a documentary and was mindful of the director's artistic license. I was happy to see that Gibson got some details right, like personal adornment, tools and body decoration. Although the main actors are native North Americans, I applaud Gibson's use of some Maya actors, as well as his decision to have the characters speak in a native Maya language, Yukatek, still heard in Mexico. While these are brave and ambitious choices, they also imply that Apocalypto is a sincere depiction of Maya society. In fact, the movie is not an accurate portrayal of the Maya at all; rather, it is a reflection of Gibson's own feverish imagination ...The movie focuses on Maya society on the eve of Spanish contact in the 16th century. Yet the Maya city portrayed in the movie, central to its plot, dates roughly to the 9th century. This is akin to telling a story about English pilgrims founding the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and showing them living in longhouses described in Beowulf. In fact, Gibson incorporates Maya images from as far back as 300 B.C. Throughout the movie, these anachronisms make Maya civilization seem timeless, and undermine the idea that the Maya could and did respond to change Whatever the causes, the collapse [of Mayan civilization] was primarily of a system of governance, not a self-immolating culture. The movie misses this important distinction by creating a spurious contrast between a rural idyll and an urban miasma of excess and violence. The truth is that within several generations of the Classic Maya collapse, other regal cities with different forms of government would flourish in other parts of the Maya area. Over several millennia, the Maya underwent many cycles of growth and decline, each with its own major cities. The idea, proposed by the movie, that Maya civilization was at the verge of final self-destruction makes for good drama, but does not reflect the depth of this civilization's resilience and history ...[The hero] flees through the jungle, and with only two pursuers remaining, he bursts out of the forest onto a beach. There, where the land ends and the water begins, both he and his tormentors witness Spanish galleons and rowboats ferrying Spaniards and Christianity to the lands of the Maya. His pursuers, as if in a trance, walk weakly toward the arriving Spaniards. Their pursuit is now irrelevant, as their world is about to end In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals a new beginning. Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the littleuns stranded on the island of William Golding's Lord of the Flies. In reality, the arrival was anything but serene ...If there were ever an apocalypse in the history of the Maya -- and herein lies the ultimate demoralizing irony of the movie -- it would be because of European contact. But in the movie, after two hours of excess, hyperbole and hysteria, the Spaniards represent the arrival of sanity **[i.e., Christianity--JS]** to the Maya world. The tacit paternalism **[and bigotry--JS]** is devastating. After many centuries of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
You know, Rick, you really should include on the home page that this spiritual forum welcomes liars and that honesty is not held as a value. Damn right I didn't review the movie, as the post in question clearly shows. For Barry to believe he can actually reproduce the post *and still claim that I reviewed it* is a truly massive exercise in solipsism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows. Enough of this crap. Please see FFL post #126122, pasted in below. Please note the title of the post, which is by Judy. Note also the sections I have highlighted with ** within the post, which are also written by Judy Stein. T'would seem that Judy is playing word games again. To her, I have never 'reviewed' a movie I haven't seen means the same thing that I didn't lose the Presidential nomin- ation means to Hillary Clinton. Judy has *still* never seen the film, and will claim until her dying day that the phrases Mel Gibson, Christian bigot, and Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity are not reviews of a film she has never seen. For the record, I *did* see the film, twice. I thought it was pretty damned good, and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with what Mr. Canuto saw through his jealousy-colored glasses and what Judy Stein imagined there, without even having seen the movie. I leave it to the other Fairfield Lifers to determine who the liar is in this situation. Mel Gibson, Christian bigot Maya in the Thunderdome By Marcello A. Canuto Dec. 15, 2006 | As a scholar of the Maya civilization, I was anxious to see Mel Gibson's portrayal of the Maya in Apocalypto. Of course, I realize the movie is not a documentary and was mindful of the director's artistic license. I was happy to see that Gibson got some details right, like personal adornment, tools and body decoration. Although the main actors are native North Americans, I applaud Gibson's use of some Maya actors, as well as his decision to have the characters speak in a native Maya language, Yukatek, still heard in Mexico. While these are brave and ambitious choices, they also imply that Apocalypto is a sincere depiction of Maya society. In fact, the movie is not an accurate portrayal of the Maya at all; rather, it is a reflection of Gibson's own feverish imagination ...The movie focuses on Maya society on the eve of Spanish contact in the 16th century. Yet the Maya city portrayed in the movie, central to its plot, dates roughly to the 9th century. This is akin to telling a story about English pilgrims founding the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and showing them living in longhouses described in Beowulf. In fact, Gibson incorporates Maya images from as far back as 300 B.C. Throughout the movie, these anachronisms make Maya civilization seem timeless, and undermine the idea that the Maya could and did respond to change Whatever the causes, the collapse [of Mayan civilization] was primarily of a system of governance, not a self-immolating culture. The movie misses this important distinction by creating a spurious contrast between a rural idyll and an urban miasma of excess and violence. The truth is that within several generations of the Classic Maya collapse, other regal cities with different forms of government would flourish in other parts of the Maya area. Over several millennia, the Maya underwent many cycles of growth and decline, each with its own major cities. The idea, proposed by the movie, that Maya civilization was at the verge of final self-destruction makes for good drama, but does not reflect the depth of this civilization's resilience and history ...[The hero] flees through the jungle, and with only two pursuers remaining, he bursts out of the forest onto a beach. There, where the land ends and the water begins, both he and his tormentors witness Spanish galleons and rowboats ferrying Spaniards and Christianity to the lands of the Maya. His pursuers, as if in a trance, walk weakly toward the arriving Spaniards. Their pursuit is now irrelevant, as their world is about to end In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals a new beginning. Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the littleuns
[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam: What the West Needs to Know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, Rick, you really should include on the home page that this spiritual forum welcomes liars and that honesty is not held as a value. I agree, Rick. Please include in the rap that such liars are welcome to comment on films they have never seen, and to call the creator of a film they have never seen a bigot. That certainly shows a devotion to honesty. Damn right I didn't review the movie, as the post in question clearly shows. For Barry to believe he can actually reproduce the post *and still claim that I reviewed it* is a truly massive exercise in solipsism. In ALL of the subsequent discussion of this gaffe, Judy has studiously avoided the real issue, which is that she commented on a film she has never seen, going so far as to call the filmmaker a Christian bigot. I'm thinkin' that folks here have just seen a pretty classic exhibition of how *she* holds honesty to have a value. Let's follow up on it. Judy, do you *still* believe that Mel Gibson is a Christian bigot (your term) for making the film Apocalypto? Please cite examples from the film you've never seen to illustrate. (The orig- inal author of the piece you quoted and believed without seeing the movie got several of his examples *wrong*, so I wouldn't use them if I were you.) We'll wait. Oh, by the way, is The Love Guru demeaning to Hindus? We know that it hasn't been released yet, but since you feel free to comment on other films you've never seen, that shouldn't stop you. What a joke this woman is with her talk of honesty. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip You sound like people I know who hated Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth--but refused to ever watch it. snip I might also point out you've just unknowingly joined the Judy Stein movie review club. I'm sure she's glad to have you . :-) BREAKING NEWS!! Vaj has told another lie! I'm sure we're all astonished. I have never reviewed a movie I haven't seen, as Vaj well knows. Enough of this crap. Please see FFL post #126122, pasted in below. Please note the title of the post, which is by Judy. Note also the sections I have highlighted with ** within the post, which are also written by Judy Stein. T'would seem that Judy is playing word games again. To her, I have never 'reviewed' a movie I haven't seen means the same thing that I didn't lose the Presidential nomin- ation means to Hillary Clinton. Judy has *still* never seen the film, and will claim until her dying day that the phrases Mel Gibson, Christian bigot, and Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity are not reviews of a film she has never seen. For the record, I *did* see the film, twice. I thought it was pretty damned good, and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with what Mr. Canuto saw through his jealousy-colored glasses and what Judy Stein imagined there, without even having seen the movie. I leave it to the other Fairfield Lifers to determine who the liar is in this situation. Mel Gibson, Christian bigot Maya in the Thunderdome By Marcello A. Canuto Dec. 15, 2006 | As a scholar of the Maya civilization, I was anxious to see Mel Gibson's portrayal of the Maya in Apocalypto. Of course, I realize the movie is not a documentary and was mindful of the director's artistic license. I was happy to see that Gibson got some details right, like personal adornment, tools and body decoration. Although the main actors are native North Americans, I applaud Gibson's use of some Maya actors, as well as his decision to have the characters speak in a native Maya language, Yukatek, still heard in Mexico. While these are brave and ambitious choices, they also imply that Apocalypto is a sincere depiction of Maya society. In fact, the movie is not an accurate portrayal of the Maya at all; rather, it is a reflection of Gibson's own feverish imagination ...The movie focuses on Maya society on the eve of Spanish contact in the 16th century. Yet the Maya city portrayed in the movie, central to its plot, dates roughly to the 9th century. This is akin to telling a story about English pilgrims founding the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and showing them living in longhouses described in Beowulf. In fact, Gibson incorporates Maya images from as far back as 300 B.C. Throughout the movie, these anachronisms make Maya civilization seem timeless, and undermine the idea that the Maya could and did respond to change Whatever the causes, the collapse [of Mayan civilization] was primarily of a system of
