[FairfieldLife] Barry's statement of fact
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. That was the post of the week. (maybe the month) One thing I want to add. As soon as someone expresses some doubt as to whether they can continue posting here, their days are numbered. It happens every time. Ruth indicated at some point that she was on the fence whether she could continue posting here. Well fuck her and fuck Edg when he would make the same veiled threat. What they are saying is, Okay group, you need to modify the conversation here if you want me to stay I agree in principle, but with a change in what they were *really* trying to do. They decided to leave because they didn't enjoy the dynamic on FFL any more, but AS they went they each wanted to take one last parting shot at someone they didn't like, in an attempt to get other people to not like them, too. Ruth took her parting shot at Judy. Judy responded by trying to create a diversion, invoking a McCarthyeaque parting shot that was made to her in private by Michael, and which worked on her because she *already* didn't like me. She wanted to make that public in an attempt to get *other* people to not like me, and to shift people's attention away from Ruth. That escalated into Jim taking *his* parting shot (revealing in the pro- cess that he was reading FFL obsessively and communicating via channeling while pretending to have unsubscribed) and Michael doing exactly the same thing. In none of the three cases IMO was their intent about anything OTHER than taking their parting shot. To Edg's credit he went out without some lame parting shot. Exactly. Wherever he went, and for whatever reasons, he just beat feet, without any attempt to influence things back on FFL and suggest that it wasn't good enough for him. Ruth went out in a pretty classy way, putting the blame on herself in not being able to handle Judy. *Mainly* on herself. I agree that that was the focus of what she said, but it was still a parting shot at Judy. Not that the insane bitch (Judy) didn't deserve it. She *purposefully* harassed Ruth by responding to pretty much anything she posted, attempting to suck her back into a head-to-head argument. It's just what Judy DOES. Ruth left because she knew that she couldn't resist the constant taunting. Wise and perceptive of her, I would say. She realized that NOTHING she could do would ever change Judy's obsessive bitchiness, so she split herself. But I think we saw that coming. She always let us know that we were on thin ice. The tone here changed irrevecably when alt.med came on board. Yes it did, and for that I take some responsibility. I did mention this forum on FFL. At the same time, I *specifically said that it was IMO a better forum, and that the conversations were better there, but at the same time, I *begged* a.m.t.ers to leave their baggage at home if they wanted to check it out. They didn't. Judy and Lawson brought it with them, and attempted to turn FFL into a.m.t. To my discredit, I fell into the routine enough that I helped them do so, by responding to their consistent attempts to make *every* conversation an argument starter. Many would say that the group lost much of its charm and uniqueness which was then replaced with pettiness and bickering. Many would be telling the truth IMO. :-) In particular, the feud Posting limits were instituted, and that has helped. Also it cut down on Lawson's incessant, obsessive posting. I, for one, have to stand up for Lawson lately. He still has the occasional overreactive got my buttons pushed posting binge, but he's been MUCH more reasonable in recent months, and has contributed some good stuff IMO. I think that some of Judy's recent vehemence and over- the-top-ness is because she's not HAPPY that Lawson isn't as much of a kneejerk fundamentalist as he used to be, and that makes it all the more obvious that she and Nabby are pretty much the only ones left. As I see it, the truffles here are buried under a little more dirt, and we don't see them as often, but enough of them appear to keep me interested. Me, too. I have contributed more than my fair share to the general discord on Fairfield Life, and probably will again in the future. But I'm really going to *try* not to do so as much, because it's more fun to just be funny, and to lampoon people who are ALREADY a parody of them- selves, and of the things they pretend to defend so that they can argue. It's the ARGUMENTS they are loyal to, not TM, not Maharishi, not the TMO. I posted a little yesterday morning, and then took off and had an enjoyable day in Barcelona, ending with a concert under the stars by Loreena McKennitt. I came home to find that Judy had basically gone insane again trying her best to get people to dislike me to the same extent she does. While I don't think that it is *possible* to dislike me as much as she does, and that she has thus set
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can buy pure freeze-dried acai! Yep, pure acai fruit, no preservatives, no water, cheaper to buy, cheaper to ship. MLMs are such rip-offs. Ya know Alex,my Brazilian Jiu-jitsu buddies were are all Acai fruit freaks. I buy it at Whole Food frozen for smoothies sometimes and I feel so virtuous when I drink the magical and tasty potion! I'll check out the freeze dried version, thanks for the tip. These days I'm going with blueberries man. They are in season, my internet news source says they are good for me, and I freak'n love them! Eating a cup of them on my cereal in season is like handing Maharishi a flower back in the day! (OK, my bliss bar has been lowered a bit.) Raised, some would say. :-) After all, blueberry bliss is based on something more profound than moodmaking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's statement of fact
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Meanwhile, Judy and her minions will continue to demonize me, and will continue their campaign to get people to obsess about me as much as they do. Minions... L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's fiction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You know, I could write pages and pages with illustrative examples from his posts documenting meanspiritedness and dishonesty, among other traits. I can't document unhappy; it's just a very strong sense I (and others) have gotten. But happy people are not typically meanspirited and dishonest, etc. Judy, I don't believe that you could really write pages and pages with illustrative examples of Barry's meanspiritedness and dishonesty. One or two pages won't do it. I want to see pages and pages with illustrative examples. Minions... L.
[FairfieldLife] Fisker Karma
http://www.zcars.com.au/fisker-karma/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Just watching Bevan say leadership taken by surprise by Verma's announcement of new organization for India and attempts to clarify it all plus lots of statements underlining MMY's annointment of Maharaja Nader Ram as the LEADER of his Movement as if to make a special point. A Brutus scenario unfolding? - India Maharishi World Peace Movement aims to establish world peace Jabalpur | Thursday, Jul 17 2008 IST Maharishi World Peace Movement Chairman Brahmachari Girish Verma today said his objective was to establish world peace and make every citizen invincible through Vedic principles and experiments. ''The need of the hour is to take the place Movement to every human being and establish world peace for all time to come,'' he told reporters on the eve of Guru Purnima, when the Movement would be launched here. Pointing out that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi launched the World Peace Spiritual Re-awakening Movement five decades back and undertook constant tours to the nooks and crannies of the globe for blowing the bugle of a spiritual revolution, Dr Verma added 'that' was the inspiration for a resolve to launch the Peace Movement internationally. The Peace Movement would be launched here as this was Mahesh Yogi's 'karmabhoomi' in the initial part of his life. ''Guarding one's health as per the Maharishi Vedic Health Rituals, construction and use of homes, schools, offices, villages and cities as per Vaastu principles, Yoga every morning and evening, meditation and consumption of only bio-food products are among ten principal schemes of the Peace Movement,'' explained Dr Verma. The Maharishi Maha Media News Service and Maharishi Maha Media Portal would be also inaugurated tomorrow. ''Maharishi World Peace Movement committees will be formed at different levels with the target of linking at least one per cent of India's population with meditation besides imparting Yoga training to the maximum number of people,'' Dr Verma added I'm resisting the urge to say I told you so. Whoops, guess I just did! The Shrivastava/Varma vs Vlodrop clan war is now officially on. This is going to be fascinating. Truly fascinating. I wonder why Bevan felt the need to announce on the channel that Tony was in charge rather than keeping it in-house. Who was that really directed at? All of us is my guess. It would have to be important to them or they wouldn't risk any sign of discord or (horror) incoherence. I can't help thinking that if they'd stop making month long speeches about how fabulous and world renowned they are they might have got something useful done all these years. Can't wait to see how this one develops.
[FairfieldLife] Advice to those lost in the Jealousy Bardo
I've noticed a trend lately in the flurry of Pile On Barry posts. One of the things that each of the posters have complained of is that some other posters on Fairfield Life actually *like* me, or enjoy some of my posts. Michael complained of it in his parting shot. He specifically talked about how threatened he was by this, and interpreted it as me dominating the forum. Judy has made almost a *career* of complaining when one of my posts strikes a resonance with people here. When they respond positively to something I have written, her response is *always* the same -- to attempt to shift that positivity into negativity, aimed at me. Richard Williams and Shemp don't say it outright, but if you track the posts in which they lash out at me, seemingly at random, I think you'll see that they *aren't* random. They always follow a post of mine that has gotten a favorable response from someone, or that has made a few people laugh. Same with Nabby and Jim. My suggestion is that rather than acting all jealous and attempting to get people to dislike me, these folks might consider putting a little more energy into being likable -- or even credible or funny -- themselves. In other words, they should LEARN TO WRITE. If they could write better, people might respond more positively to *their* posts, too. Then they wouldn't have to spend all their time acting jealous. Just a suggestion. If you're interested, I'll consider doing a long-distance course in my patented Literary Eloquence (TM) technique. Be nice, and I might throw in a few lessons on how to develop Evil Shakti (TM) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Just watching Bevan say leadership taken by surprise by Verma's announcement of new organization for India and attempts to clarify it all plus lots of statements underlining MMY's annointment of Maharaja Nader Ram as the LEADER of his Movement as if to make a special point. A Brutus scenario unfolding? - India Maharishi World Peace Movement aims to establish world peace Jabalpur | Thursday, Jul 17 2008 IST Maharishi World Peace Movement Chairman Brahmachari Girish Verma today said his objective was to establish world peace and make every citizen invincible through Vedic principles and experiments. ''The need of the hour is to take the place Movement to every human being and establish world peace for all time to come,'' he told reporters on the eve of Guru Purnima, when the Movement would be launched here. Pointing out that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi launched the World Peace Spiritual Re-awakening Movement five decades back and undertook constant tours to the nooks and crannies of the globe for blowing the bugle of a spiritual revolution, Dr Verma added 'that' was the inspiration for a resolve to launch the Peace Movement internationally. The Peace Movement would be launched here as this was Mahesh Yogi's 'karmabhoomi' in the initial part of his life. ''Guarding one's health as per the Maharishi Vedic Health Rituals, construction and use of homes, schools, offices, villages and cities as per Vaastu principles, Yoga every morning and evening, meditation and consumption of only bio-food products are among ten principal schemes of the Peace Movement,'' explained Dr Verma. The Maharishi Maha Media News Service and Maharishi Maha Media Portal would be also inaugurated tomorrow. ''Maharishi World Peace Movement committees will be formed at different levels with the target of linking at least one per cent of India's population with meditation besides imparting Yoga training to the maximum number of people,'' Dr Verma added I'm resisting the urge to say I told you so. Whoops, guess I just did! The Shrivastava/Varma vs Vlodrop clan war is now officially on. This is going to be fascinating. Truly fascinating. I wonder why Bevan felt the need to announce on the channel that Tony was in charge rather than keeping it in-house. Who was that really directed at? All of us is my guess. It would have to be important to them or they wouldn't risk any sign of discord or (horror) incoherence. I can't help thinking that if they'd stop making month long speeches about how fabulous and world renowned they are they might have got something useful done all these years. Can't wait to see how this one develops. If this split has happened as it was related to us, this is really, really huge. Indeed, I would venture to say it is more huge than Maharishi's death; his passing had to happen and we all, in our own ways, knew it was coming, planned for it as best we could, and adjusted accordingly. But this will be yet another nail in the coffin of an already dying Movement. Here are but some of the implications: 1) What happens to the pundits in Fairfield? The Pundit Project has been a key happening in the Movement for the past 5 years or so. Girish and family hold the leases on these semi-slaves. So this will be a big disrupt right there. 2) Girish is Maharishi's family. If there is a split, how will this affect, psychologically, the troops in the West? We are supposed to be above these sorts of things and a split will confuse, demoralize, and depress many TBers. Can't have that. 3) Moolah. How much of the Movement's fortunes are held by and controlled by the Indians? Will there be court battles to get the money? This won't be pretty from a publicity point of view. 4) How many in the East (ie., India) will side with the Family? More importantly, will any in the West? You know, one juicy rumour that is BOUND to start here in the West and which, of course, you will find fertile ground for it to fester is that Girish -- who looks like his uncle and aspires to BE his uncle -- is actually Maharishi incarnate. Isn't there a sidhi for taking over another's body? You can bet that there will be some who side with Girish that will start THAT rumour! 5) What will happen to Fairfield? If there is a split of this magnitude, it could very well weaken the Movement to the degree that MIU dissolves and most everyone moves away from Fairfield. Good time to sell the casa, Rick. 6) And, of course, the most important question of all: what will happen to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this split has happened as it was related to us, this is really, really huge. Huge, schmuge. This is just one more petty squabble among people who lost their relevance to anything in the real world decades ago. It's a bunch of people who are legends only in their own minds quibbling over who is the biggest legend. NO ONE outside of those who still identify with the TM movement GIVES A SHIT. They'll look at this petty squabbling and shake their heads and write off the squabblers the same way they did when similar squabbling erupted among the Mukta- ananda legends-in-their-own-minds and the Chogyam Trungpa legends-in-their-own-minds and the Yoga- nanda legends-in-their-own-minds and even the SBS legends-in-their-own-minds. It's ALWAYS the same petty squabbling. Doncha GET it? And, in every case, it always reveals the power- lessness and pettiness of the men behind the curtain, the ones who believe that they are legendary figures in some greater-than-life saga unfolding around them. These squabbles are ALWAYS based on the same thing: self importance. It doesn't matter whether the measure of self importance is having one's hand on the purse strings, or on having more shakti or personal power or being more enlightened than the other legends-in- their-own-minds. It doesn't matter who the wannabee legends are or who the group is. It's always the same soap opera, just with different actors playing the roles. WHO CARES? The TM movement died decades ago as far as the world is concerned. There are probably not more than 100 people on the planet who are not part of it (or were part of it at one point in their lives) who even know that this huge power struggle is taking place, or who would give a shit if they did. There is NOTHING about the TM movement that is of interest to any of the other billions of people on the planet, and it's looking as if there never will be ever again. The TM movement has all but abandoned teaching TM, preferring to preach to the choir and get its money from the already converted. They display a poverty of imagination that staggers the mind -- with billions of dollars and an international organization at their disposal, the best idea they can come up with to help the world is to...uh...erect big penises with the words Maharishi Tower Of Invincibility written on them. How self important and pathetic is THAT? The TM movement is OVER, toast. It's pushin' up daisies. It's bleedin' demised. IT IS AN EX MOVEMENT. The only reason it still appears to be on its perch is that it's been nailed there as a result of the paralyzing hubris of its own mythical self importance. This isn't huge. It's just the petty, embarrassing public rotting of the already-dead corpse of a minor spiritual movement that won't even be remembered in 20 years. Get over it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this split has happened as it was related to us, this is really, really huge. Indeed, I would venture to say it is more huge than Maharishi's death; his passing had to happen and we all, in our own ways, knew it was coming, planned for it as best we could, and adjusted accordingly. But this will be yet another nail in the coffin of an already dying Movement. Here are but some of the implications: 1) What happens to the pundits in Fairfield? The Pundit Project has been a key happening in the Movement for the past 5 years or so. Girish and family hold the leases on these semi-slaves. So this will be a big disrupt right there. 2) Girish is Maharishi's family. If there is a split, how will this affect, psychologically, the troops in the West? We are supposed to be above these sorts of things and a split will confuse, demoralize, and depress many TBers. Can't have that. 3) Moolah. How much of the Movement's fortunes are held by and controlled by the Indians? Will there be court battles to get the money? This won't be pretty from a publicity point of view. 4) How many in the East (ie., India) will side with the Family? More importantly, will any in the West? You know, one juicy rumour that is BOUND to start here in the West and which, of course, you will find fertile ground for it to fester is that Girish -- who looks like his uncle and aspires to BE his uncle -- is actually Maharishi incarnate. Isn't there a sidhi for taking over another's body? You can bet that there will be some who side with Girish that will start THAT rumour! 5) What will happen to Fairfield? If there is a split of this magnitude, it could very well weaken the Movement to the degree that MIU dissolves and most everyone moves away from Fairfield. Good time to sell the casa, Rick. 6) And, of course, the most important question of all: what will happen to the plans for Donovan Invincible University?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Keep em coming Nabby, if there is one close enough to my house I'll nip over and take a picture for you. This one is a bit too far to go on my bike in one day. http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/westwoods2/westwoods2008.html
[FairfieldLife] Girish Verma's site
http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen
Seth died from a necrotizing soft tissue infection. His symptoms appeared last Tuesday, he was in a coma with a 105 degree fever on Wednesday. He seemed to have stabilized on Friday, but took a turn for the worse on Saturday and died that night. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:47 AM Sorry to hear that as well- Seth was a kind hearted soul and well known to many for his humor. What was the cause? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just heard that Seth Cohen died last night. He was one of the good guys. Bonvoyage my brother
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) What happens to the pundits in Fairfield? The Pundit Project has been a key happening in the Movement for the past 5 years or so. Girish and family hold the leases on these semi-slaves. So this will be a big disrupt right there. 2) Girish is Maharishi's family. If there is a split, how will this affect, psychologically, the troops in the West? We are supposed to be above these sorts of things and a split will confuse, demoralize, and depress many TBers. Can't have that. 3) Moolah. How much of the Movement's fortunes are held by and controlled by the Indians? Will there be court battles to get the money? This won't be pretty from a publicity point of view. 4) How many in the East (ie., India) will side with the Family? More importantly, will any in the West? You know, one juicy rumour that is BOUND to start here in the West and which, of course, you will find fertile ground for it to fester is that Girish -- who looks like his uncle and aspires to BE his uncle -- is actually Maharishi incarnate. Isn't there a sidhi for taking over another's body? Yep! Praps we might call it cittasya para-shariiraaveshaH. From Vyaasa's comment: karma-bandha-kSayaat sva-cittasya pracaara-samvedanaac ca yogii cittaM sva-shariiraan niSkRSya shariiraantareSu nikSipati. That might mean something like 'from destruction of the bondage of karma and because of knowledge of the movements of his own mind, a yogii can, after having removed his mind from his own body, throw it into the body of another'. (That is partly guessing, because I didn't bother to consult any dictionary).
[FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
On Jul 18, 2008, at 7:35 PM, bhairitu wrote: Always one to get new toys to play with, I'm typing this from the latest addition to my computer family: an ASUS Eee PC 2G Surf running Linux. The keyboard is going to take a little getting used to as this unit is small with a 7 screen and small keyboard. It has built-in wifi and will be handy around the house instead of one of my Windows based laptop because this one boots up in about 30 seconds. It will also be great for traveling. http://eeepc.asus.com/global/ I'm a great new toy lover too, but never really particularly liked cell phones or PDA's. Give me desktop rather than some tiny-screened toy. Then I got an iPod Touch for my wife, who wanted something to get on the net for her day-to-day travels. Incredible device, but without a nearby hotspot, not always easy to get high speed access when you want. So, we returned the Touch and after all the brouhaha settled down on iPhone 3g launch day, ordered one from the ATT store late on the 11th. It arrived this weekend. This has to be the most useful PDA/Cell phone device ever created. With the new inclusion of Apple-screened applications, there's simply nothing remotely like it outside of science fiction. Press the button for Maps and the built-in GPS shows your location on satellite. The inclusion of 3rd party apps greatly extends it's usability. Everything from Astronomy applications which tell me a stars name merely by pointing at it in the sky to voice recognition programs that transcribe what I speak and then email me the text. Computer games that rely on the tilt of device rather than having to punch some controls constantly with your thumbs. It remote controls my entire music library with a mere touch and streams it to my home stereo. And on and on. It's the closest thing to Star Trek ever invented. If you don't mind spending 70 bucks a month for cell phone and your data plan, this device rocks. If you don't need the cell coverage and can rely on hotspots or a home wireless network, you can make phone calls with Skype or some similar device and pay $O in cell coverage by purchasing an iPod Touch. Either way both include inexpensive and many free third party applications which provide an amazing amount of extensibility. The only thing missing is the ability to beam oneself into space :-). Highly recommended device if you don't mind spending some money for the cell plan or several hundred for an iPod Touch.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
besides the blueberries, here's a SuperFood many people overlook: GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES they have the highest NUTRIENTS/CALORIE density of all the food groups at least those that are readily accessible from your local supermarket, farm, garden, etc spirulina does come in handy, if you're in India where there are almost no green leafy vegetables to be had in many places --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine my surprise when an old friend started pitching this stuff to me over the phone as the greatest, and most magical food since spirulina algae: http://www.zrii.com/ Endorsed by the Chopra center no less! I lugged so much Ayur Vedic shit back from India it would make your ass hurt. All the brand new and teeming with microbes Maharishi products, all varieties of Triguna potions. Even a bunch of heavy amalaki fruit preserved whole which is the magic ingredient in this over priced elixir. As I look in the ingredients I see turmeric which is a universally honored inflammatory and has recently come back into my kitchen bigtime to stain every fucking thing it touches forever! But I'm getting older and I get what inflammatory means for my aging body. Aging is practically the process of giving in to inflammation! They have ginger, great for my stomach and who knows what other good things it does. It is a food I sprinkle on with delight that magic is happening in my kitchen. The other Indian names I recognize as stuff I used to worship and for all I know are great including the deified and vitamin rich amalaki fruit. Have I told you about my blueberry fetish? Oh man I've got it bad, I eat a cup a day on my cereal and feel so healthy virtuous it makes me glow for the whole day. I love all the magic foods that mass media sells me with the latest study. My dinner is multi colored, whole grain, multi veggie rich and although I do eat meat it is usually in the style of the rest of the world in smaller doses in my brown rice. (the rest of the world hates brown rice but you get my point) So I understand why my friend was glowing in her report of the magic of the amalaki and her non interest in hearing about the placebo effect. And she may even be right, the shit might just be the cats meow and will be a headline on my MSNBC page soon, which seems to dominate my magical food propaganda these days. But if I go with this new magic food I'm getting my own source for this fruit (I've got some in my Dabur Chavanprash in my cupboard right now) and I'll be God damned if Chopra is getting one red cent when I buy into the fad. Like all my magic foods, I'm taking this one with a big dose of salt, (and it wont be Fleur de Sal from France since I found out that all special, magic, high priced salt is salt with dirt! (thanks to Mark Kurlanski who wrote the wonderful book, Salt, a world history.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] What will happen to Fairfield? If there is a split of this magnitude, it could very well weaken the Movement to the degree that MIU dissolves and most everyone moves away from Fairfield. Good time to sell the casa, Rick. Rick Archer, the famous rumourmonger, along with all those spiritual vampires that resides in Fairfield have been working hard for the dissolvment of that city for many years now. As I have pointed out on several occasions here before. The Fairfielders still has a chance if they fully join the programmes in the Domes and do their part of the work in creating coherence. Mother Nature is very patient, but not forever patient. Your predictions might come through faster than many will find comfortable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Just watching Bevan say leadership taken by surprise by Verma's announcement of new organization for India and attempts to clarify it all plus lots of statements underlining MMY's annointment of Maharaja Nader Ram as the LEADER of his Movement as if to make a special point. A Brutus scenario unfolding? Note that he identifies himself with an organization that isnt affiliated in any way with the TMO, as far as I can tell. This implies that he was removed from his position as head of the pundits at the brahmastan, so this is his retaliation: setting up an independent movement to cash in on his uncle's name. That's my take on it. Note he hasn't gotten the endorsement of any other organization or person, at least the press release didnt' metnion it, including MMY's preferred Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. Also, only a tiny handful of websites have mentioned it, according to google. He's lost control of the purse strings in India, and doesn't like it. My view is that most of the tmo funds has already been transferred to indian accounts of which girish was in charge and probably still is. He already has the money. Girish used to be on the board of most US tmo affiliates so he certainly controlled the indian ones I would think. Who cares about ties with king tony? The money flow from the west is pretty much over now that mmy is dead. The money was coming from millionaire courses and big donations inspired by MMY personally. what money does come in will follow the Settle format - restricting it to specific projects that can be overseen by the donor. even TB donors have wised up some and don't want their donations disappearing anymore into the big black indian hole. king tony is not going to inspire big donations. more millionaires are going to be created in india over the next decade than in the US - look at the success of ravi shankar in marketing to this sophisticated niche. girish probably thinks he might as well cut ties with the crazy westerners in crowns and start his own org. focused on teaching tm and recreate mmy's early success in the west now in india. the fact that bevan would say he was surprised by girish's announcement is extremely revealing - definitely an internal struggle going on there. it's a totally meaningless struggle but still will be fun to watch that motley assortment of righteous spiritual blowhards fight over assets and power for the next few years. (I've heard very reliable stories of tmo bigwigs in holland calling up wealthy sidhas and requesting donations of personal real estate assets saying that before he died MMY mentioned how he wanted the mov't to have that particular piece of land or building. This is what they have to do now to raise money - say it was a dying wish of mmy's. that trick won't last too long)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Noticed two recent changes on the site - a flashing notice emphasizing this is for Indians only (!) AND Maharishi World Peace Movement is part of Maharishi's global movement and the Global Country of World Peace. So perhaps there's been some quick and successful diplomacy.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
I didn't do a top to bottom reading of the entire site, but as of yet I have not seen mention of King Tony anywhere... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noticed two recent changes on the site - a flashing notice emphasizing this is for Indians only (!) AND Maharishi World Peace Movement is part of Maharishi's global movement and the Global Country of World Peace. So perhaps there's been some quick and successful diplomacy.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
Responses interwoven below: --- On Mon, 7/21/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 9:30 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] What will happen to Fairfield? If there is a split of this magnitude, it could very well weaken the Movement to the degree that MIU dissolves and most everyone moves away from Fairfield. Good time to sell the casa, Rick. The movement is already weak. This will do nothing. Rick Archer, the famous rumourmonger, along with all those spiritual vampires that resides in Fairfield have been working hard for the dissolvment of that city for many years now. As I have pointed out on several occasions here before. Yes, you have very astute and such reality based insights. Rick and many others of us here on FFL have been working hard day and thinking our mantras backwards to disolve the Age of Enlightenment and usher in the Age of the Darkness. You caught on, gosh dern it! The Fairfielders still has a chance if they fully join the programmes in the Domes and do their part of the work in creating coherence. This is true Mother Nature is very patient, but not forever patient. Your predictions might come through faster than many will find comfortable. Have you been sleepiong with Mother Nature. You seem to know her will so clearly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: iPhone 3g, was New Toy
The situation here in FF is poor ATT coverage and free WiFi all over the downtown area. At the time I was shopping around for a small Internet device, I decided it would be best to wait for the next generation iPod Touch, so I bought a Nokia N810 Internet Tablet (the 3rd generation... 770 - 800 - 810) It's a great little device, running a specialized version of Linux. However, I really like the user interface of the iPod Touch, and I can easily see myself getting one in the future. As for cellphones, I have zero complaints about US Cellular's blanket coverage out here, so until ATT can match the quality of US Cellular, or Apple releases a CDMA iPhone, there will be no iPhone in my future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Keep em coming Nabby, if there is one close enough to my house I'll nip over and take a picture for you. This one is a bit too far to go on my bike in one day. http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/westwoods2/westwoods2008.html Point taken. These are amateur shots. Amateurs often rely on wideagle-lences which they do not know how to use thus producing quite a lot of distortion. But I do find this circle fascinating, the way those 3 interlocked heads look at you... Unfortunately there is an industry that has couped and capitalized the earlier airialshots to make money. Seems one has to buy calenders and books to view them: http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php It's a shame how blatantly greedy capitalists are making money on circles/inspiration so freely given by our Space Brothers. They are like those fools that sells images and statues of Ganesha to make money. They will cry in the end.
[FairfieldLife] The Church of Literary Eloquence (TM) Training Course Announcement
Since I have been accused of having literary eloquence by tr3nity (Michael) in his parting shot, and using it to dominate this group, I figure I should do what any upstanding American does when accused of something complimentary, and make a buck from it. :-) So consider this a teaser lesson in my new training course on how to (in Michael's words) dominate an Internet group through literary eloquence. Lesson 1 -- How 2 Write Gud Lyk Me 1. Write. If all you do is lurk, how do you ever expect to dominate shit? I mean, Duh. 2. Write only when you feel like you've got something to say, never just because you're bored. Good rants that dominate Internet groups descend upon one like...uh...like the grace of God. Catch the wave when this grace appears, and write it all down as it washes through you with its powerful bubbling bliss. 3. Just write and throw it out there. One good edit pass before you click Send is good, because everybody makes typos, but don't spend too much time trying to make it perfect. It won't be, no matter how hard you try, and let's face it...most people here are going to skim what you write anyway, so why break a sweat trying to make it perfect for them. This is what I do, and it seems to have enabled me to dominate this forum, so hey!...it might work for you. 4. Be yourself. If you're a brilliant philosopher or rocket scientist, write like a brilliant philosopher or scientist. Otherwise, write like Just Another Asshole, like the rest of the people on the forum. In general, the more you are Being Yourself, the better people will respond to your posts, and the sooner you will be able to dominate them. 5. When you get negative feedback (there are a few misfits on every Internet group who just don't want to be dominated), laugh at them and do your best to help others laugh at them, too. They're going to try to sucker you into defending your- self in some head-to-head debate, but why bother? Better to laugh them off and concentrate on domination IMO. 6. Use the IMO acronym. Use it a LOT, sometimes even spelled out as in my opinion. The people giving you negative feed- back and resisting your domination of them aren't going to, and so this distinguishes you from them in the minds of the other posters and lurkers. It's *them* you want to dominate, not the ones who get in your face. Dominate the others well enough, and the ones who get in your face will leave anyway, throwing out one last whiny parting shot as they go. 7. Every so often, write about something that's fun for you, and might be fun for others as well. Again, the in-your-face types don't ever do this (nothing IS fun for them), so you'll stand out, and that will speed your goal of group domination. 8. Be yourself. Also repeat yourself a lot. It helps, because the people you're trying to dominate aren't really the sharpest pencils in the box, and don't have much of an attention span. 9. Don't exceed the posting limits. That's what the in-your- face types do. Look closely at those who've spent time in the FFL penalty box for overposting. Has anyone ever accused *them* of group domination? 'Nuff said. 10. Suck up to Curtis. Everybody likes Curtis, and if you can get him to like you by complimenting his sucky music or his taste in women, he'll subconsciously aid you in your attempts at group domination. There are many, many, many more tips like this in store for you if you take the full Literary Eloquence (TM) Training Course. These ten points are like the loss leaders at K-Mart that are supposed to get you to drive across town and spend 2 bucks less for something you don't need so you'll buy all sorts of other shit you don't need while you're in the store. Believe me, you'll get your money's worth if you sign up for the full course. I'll have you dominating Internet groups in 5-7 years, absolutely. And I'll even provide a few Advanced Techniques (at an additional charge, of course) along the way, techniques for increasing your Evil Shakti (TM). Some of these Advanced Techniques are going to require equipment, but hey!, you can find black cats almost anywhere these days. So don't be a wuss. Learn to dominate today. Sign up and become the writer of your dreams. Or at least your wet dreams.
[FairfieldLife] Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. #184410 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed a trend lately in the flurry of Pile On Barry posts. One of the things that each of the posters have complained of is that some other posters on Fairfield Life actually *like* me, or enjoy some of my posts. Michael complained of it in his parting shot. He specifically talked about how threatened he was by this, and interpreted it as me dominating the forum. For the record, here's Michael talking about how threatened he was by this: Why should I leave only for one person? Well, for one thing I knew him online for a longer time than many others here. Second, I feel he has a certain degree of support in the group, and he tries to dominate it, by his literary eloquence. This seems to count more here than logical argument. Note Michael says TRIES to dominate the group. Also, it's obviously not a matter of his being threatened by people liking Barry or enjoying some of his posts, it's that Barry's posts depend on his literary eloquence at the expense of logic, making it impossible to have a reasonable discussion with him. Judy has made almost a *career* of complaining when one of my posts strikes a resonance with people here. When they respond positively to something I have written, her response is *always* the same -- to attempt to shift that positivity into negativity, aimed at me. Blatantly false. I did this once recently, but I can't even remember the previous instance, and neither can Barry. I actually do it very rarely. Richard Williams and Shemp don't say it outright, but if you track the posts in which they lash out at me, seemingly at random, I think you'll see that they *aren't* random. They always follow a post of mine that has gotten a favorable response from someone, or that has made a few people laugh. Same with Nabby and Jim. A little paranoia here, it looks like, not to mention a large dose of self-importance. I'd be willing to bet a considerable amount that they *are* entirely random. Note that nowhere in either of these two posts (or anywhere else, for that matter) in which Barry is vigorously defending himself does he give any hint that he ever considers the possibility that people lash out at him because he lies, exhibits gross hypocrisy, or butchers logic--in other words, that there's a good reason for them to criticize him. As far as he's concerned, it's all because we just don't like him, and heck, there's nothing he can do about that, right? #184404 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip What they are saying is, Okay group, you need to modify the conversation here if you want me to stay I agree in principle, but with a change in what they were *really* trying to do. They decided to leave because they didn't enjoy the dynamic on FFL any more, but AS they went they each wanted to take one last parting shot at someone they didn't like, in an attempt to get other people to not like them, too. Ruth took her parting shot at Judy. Judy responded by trying to create a diversion, invoking a McCarthyeaque parting shot that was made to her in private by Michael, and which worked on her because she *already* didn't like me. She wanted to make that public in an attempt to get *other* people to not like me, and to shift people's attention away from Ruth. A blatant, knowing lie. My comment about Michael was jsut an aside in response to another of Barry's knowing lies--in his post to Ruth about what a terrible person I was--that I always try to run strong women off any forum I'm on (I've documented that this last was a lie in another post.) Far from trying to shift people's attention away from Ruth, the rest of the post was largely about Ruth leaving and my previously excellent relationship with her. I also discussed this in a post responding to Geeze pretending to have emails from Ruth that contradicted it. As I said in an earlier post, I'm happy to discuss Ruth and her leaving FFL as much as anybody wants. That escalated into Jim taking *his* parting shot (revealing in the pro- cess that he was reading FFL obsessively and communicating via channeling while pretending to have unsubscribed) and Michael doing exactly the same thing. Another blatant, knowing lie. Actually, the only reason Jim and Michael emailed the moderators was in response to Barry's meltdown trying to figure out who I had been referring to when I said someone had left because of him, and his repeated accusations that I had made it up. Had Barry
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I'm NOT amazed that they did all this without Bevan and the boys noticing. :-) I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. And Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Oh sorry, that's not on TV. Then again, neither is the Maharishi Channel. The characters on Dr. Horrible have better costumes.
[FairfieldLife] v. to abscond
to depart in a sudden and secret manner, esp. to avoid capture and legal prosecution: The cashier absconded with the money. A term the TMO higher-ups should start to become familiar with so that when they have to explain to press and meditators what happened to 90% of the Movement's money they can use the correct term. As in Girish absconded with the money.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: iPhone 3g, was New Toy
On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The situation here in FF is poor ATT coverage and free WiFi all over the downtown area. At the time I was shopping around for a small Internet device, I decided it would be best to wait for the next generation iPod Touch, so I bought a Nokia N810 Internet Tablet (the 3rd generation... 770 - 800 - 810) It's a great little device, running a specialized version of Linux. However, I really like the user interface of the iPod Touch, and I can easily see myself getting one in the future. As for cellphones, I have zero complaints about US Cellular's blanket coverage out here, so until ATT can match the quality of US Cellular, or Apple releases a CDMA iPhone, there will be no iPhone in my future. Rumor has it, the new iPod Touch may be released this September.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. This Turk wants you to think that he doesn't care. Yet every single day, all year around he posts something about TM or the TMO. Which he left more than 30 years ago ! Sick really. As Judy said; this fellow needs professional help.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
The mistake that Bev and the Voldrop Boys, a term that Barry has so eloquently coined, is that they have, according to some reports, attempted a compromise with Girlish Girish (or Fat Cheeks, whatever you prefer). For instance, it has been suggested that the addition to his site of the words For Indians only (or something like that) is the TMO's way of saying: Okay, Girish, if you're going to break away, why not see if we can live together by you just running India the way you want to? The mistake here is the same one everyone made with Hitler: give him Czechoslovakia and he'll soon want Poland, France, and Russia. No, history has taught us that you've got to cut a tyrant's balls off at the slightest suggestion of impropriety. The ball's in his court and he's got ALL the marbles. The TMO has now given him credibility by giving him their consent on his recent move and he'll have absolutely no reason not to go full throttle when and where he's ready. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. This Turk wants you to think that he doesn't care. Yet every single day, all year around he posts something about TM or the TMO. Which he left more than 30 years ago ! Sick really. As Judy said; this fellow needs professional help. As a beacon of shining mental health, Nabby, you serve as an example of what he can aspire to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? Oh I know, because he is Indian! I say go Girish go, overthrow your white oppressors. Just keep your superstitious culture in India, our Age of Enlightenment in the West involved the use of reason rather than bowing to dusty old traditions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I'm NOT amazed that they did all this without Bevan and the boys noticing. :-) I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. And Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Oh sorry, that's not on TV. Then again, neither
[FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man!
(the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion #151; burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over.' (FASEB 2008) Indeed, ancient tradition suggests that perfumed smoke may lift our moods. Before reaching for marginal, potentially problematic medicines like Prozac, it seems worth trying incense #133; plus omega-3s, exercise, positive thinking, and socializing! Sources Moussaieff A, Rimmerman N, Bregman T, Straiker A, Felder CC, Shoham S, Kashman Y, Huang SM, Lee H, Shohami E, Mackie K, Caterina MJ, Walker JM, Fride E, Mechoulam R. Incensole acetate, an incense component, elicits psychoactivity by activating TRPV3 channels in the brain. FASEB J. 2008 May 20. [Epub ahead of print] FASEB. Incense is psychoactive: Scientists identify the biology behind the ceremony. Accessed online July 12, 2008 at http://www.fasebj.org/Press_Room/07_101865_Press_Release.shtml
[FairfieldLife] You can't spell varmint without V-A-R-M...
So, Nabby, you still think it was photoshopped? Your dear, sweet, brother-in-consciousness may very well be the person who singularly destroys the TMO...still feeling as protective of him this week as you were last week? Âñòðå÷à ñ ÅÏ Ãèðèø-äæè ïåðåä îòúåçäîì Meeting with HE Girish-ji before leaving
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. Here's an interesting bit from the Wikipedia article on crop circles: In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned 5 aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes which she believed set real crop circles apart from known man-made circles such as those created by Doug and Dave.[35] These criteria were: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly Over the course of a single night the team was able to create a stereotypical man-made circle which they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter; using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3 they built a device - dubbed the Flammschmeisser - which sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time consuming to use and they were forced to finish the task using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be on a par with any of the documented cases. Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the Discovery channel documentary Crop Circles: Mysteries in the Fields.
[FairfieldLife] Fair trade
Maharishi's thinking was: I'll give the Western suckers tin foil hats, rajahs, the peanut butter empire, and a whole set of silly schemes that should keep them busy for at least the next 20 years or so and... ...I'll give my Indian relatives 90% of the Westerners' money. That way everybody's happy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responses interwoven below: --- On Mon, 7/21/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fairfielders still has a chance if they fully join the programmes in the Domes and do their part of the work in creating coherence. This is true Mother Nature is very patient, but not forever patient. Your predictions might come through faster than many will find comfortable. Have you been sleepiong with Mother Nature. You seem to know her will so clearly. I'm Her son. No sleepiong necessary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Aw Judy it's a lot of work, you didn't have to go to all that trouble just for me. I just keep on keeping on and if something happens to make me change my mind about someone that's when it happens, not when other people insist they aren't what I think. Sure Barry has got strong opinions about a lot of things, it's obvious, I don't always agree but I don't *need* to, it'd be dull as anything if we all thought the same about everything and everyone. I don't expect to get along with everyone I meet, all I can do is try to meet people half-way on things but it takes two or it's destined to fail. I've met people I consider unreachable, best to just ignore them or you're always compromising yourself to get along. Agree to disagree, what does it matter? As I always say: It won't mean shit when the sun blows up. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. #184410 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I've noticed a trend lately in the flurry of Pile On Barry posts. One of the things that each of the posters have complained of is that some other posters on Fairfield Life actually *like* me, or enjoy some of my posts. Michael complained of it in his parting shot. He specifically talked about how threatened he was by this, and interpreted it as me dominating the forum. For the record, here's Michael talking about how threatened he was by this: Why should I leave only for one person? Well, for one thing I knew him online for a longer time than many others here. Second, I feel he has a certain degree of support in the group, and he tries to dominate it, by his literary eloquence. This seems to count more here than logical argument. Note Michael says TRIES to dominate the group. Also, it's obviously not a matter of his being threatened by people liking Barry or enjoying some of his posts, it's that Barry's posts depend on his literary eloquence at the expense of logic, making it impossible to have a reasonable discussion with him. Judy has made almost a *career* of complaining when one of my posts strikes a resonance with people here. When they respond positively to something I have written, her response is *always* the same -- to attempt to shift that positivity into negativity, aimed at me. Blatantly false. I did this once recently, but I can't even remember the previous instance, and neither can Barry. I actually do it very rarely. Richard Williams and Shemp don't say it outright, but if you track the posts in which they lash out at me, seemingly at random, I think you'll see that they *aren't* random. They always follow a post of mine that has gotten a favorable response from someone, or that has made a few people laugh. Same with Nabby and Jim. A little paranoia here, it looks like, not to mention a large dose of self-importance. I'd be willing to bet a considerable amount that they *are* entirely random. Note that nowhere in either of these two posts (or anywhere else, for that matter) in which Barry is vigorously defending himself does he give any hint that he ever considers the possibility that people lash out at him because he lies, exhibits gross hypocrisy, or butchers logic--in other words, that there's a good reason for them to criticize him. As far as he's concerned, it's all because we just don't like him, and heck, there's nothing he can do about that, right? #184404 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip What they are saying is, Okay group, you need to modify the conversation here if you want me to stay I agree in principle, but with a change in what they were *really* trying to do. They decided to leave because they didn't enjoy the dynamic on FFL any more, but AS they went they each wanted to take one last parting shot at someone they didn't like, in an attempt to get other people to not like them, too. Ruth took her parting shot at Judy. Judy responded by trying to create a diversion, invoking a McCarthyeaque parting shot that was made to her in private by Michael, and which worked on her because she *already* didn't like me. She wanted to make that public in an attempt to get *other* people to not like me, and to shift people's attention away from Ruth. A blatant, knowing lie. My comment about Michael was jsut an aside in response to another of Barry's knowing lies--in his post to Ruth about what a terrible person I was--that I always try to
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. Doesn't this just prove that the somewhat nutty guys who are so into this that they would spend their nights doing it are just way better at it than a bunch of hired dabblers? It seems to make the point that no extraterrestrial agency is necessary doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. Here's an interesting bit from the Wikipedia article on crop circles: In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned 5 aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes which she believed set real crop circles apart from known man-made circles such as those created by Doug and Dave.[35] These criteria were: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly Over the course of a single night the team was able to create a stereotypical man-made circle which they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter; using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3 they built a device - dubbed the Flammschmeisser - which sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time consuming to use and they were forced to finish the task using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be on a par with any of the documented cases. Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the Discovery channel documentary Crop Circles: Mysteries in the Fields.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Aw Judy it's a lot of work, you didn't have to go to all that trouble just for me. Don't worry, I didn't, I just wanted to call your attention to it in the header. I'd have posted this in any case. I just keep on keeping on and if something happens to make me change my mind about someone that's when it happens, not when other people insist they aren't what I think. Look, you challenged *me* on my characterization of Barry as dishonest and meanspirited. You said, among other things, Dishonest? I don't know where you're getting this from. Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. Sure Barry has got strong opinions about a lot of things This isn't about opinions, it's about deliberate misrepresentation of facts. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me?
[FairfieldLife] Re: You can't spell varmint without V-A-R-M...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Nabby, you still think it was photoshopped? Your dear, sweet, brother-in-consciousness may very well be the person who singularly destroys the TMO...still feeling as protective of him this week as you were last week? What post of mine do you reffer to ? No photoshopping here. I know two of the boys in this picture. And none of them are about to destroy anything.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. Here's an interesting bit from the Wikipedia article on crop circles: In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned 5 aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes which she believed set real crop circles apart from known man-made circles such as those created by Doug and Dave.[35] These criteria were: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly Over the course of a single night the team was able to create a stereotypical man-made circle which they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter; using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3 they built a device - dubbed the Flammschmeisser - which sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time consuming to use and they were forced to finish the task using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be on a par with any of the documented cases. Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the Discovery channel documentary Crop Circles: Mysteries in the Fields. Not to mention that some of the cropcircles has been made in less than 20 minutes, as evidenced by pilots covering the area.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. And hardly the only UK location for army camps, you can't walk five miles round my way without seeing tanks patrolling the pine woods. It's just an idea it could be anyone. And I have to accept, anything. Until we know for sure. But I'm convinced it's people doing this, the one above is too irregular in places to be from the Space Brothers, and I know that sounds like a stupid thing to say but if they have the technology to get all the way over here then why don't why do a decent job? Same thing goes for earth energies or angels or whatever, I just think it would be more convincing. I'll put money on the fact that it's done by a bunch of drunk squaddies with the latest GPS or geography students or artists. I hope Nabby is right but I've seen too many supposedly expert opinions crumble away. Here's an interesting bit from the Wikipedia article on crop circles: It is interesting but I remember a programme about CCs, two experts with competing theories were taken to a fresh crop circle and allowed to test it. Neither of them knew that the other was also being given access but both of them claimed that the circle proved their ideas, which were contradictory, on how the circles are formed and the effects on the straw. Both tested for something and found proof but they couldn't both have been right! Imagine how pissed off they were when the documentary maker showed them film of the circle being made by Doug and Dave the night before. They really weren't happy but they should have been pleased because they helped demonstrate an important point about science and crop circles. I am at a loss as to how they do it in such a short time though, and at night, damn clever. But then they've had a lot of practise. In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned 5 aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes which she believed set real crop circles apart from known man-made circles such as those created by Doug and Dave.[35] These criteria were: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly Over the course of a single night the team was able to create a stereotypical man-made circle which they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter; using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3 they built a device - dubbed the Flammschmeisser - which sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time consuming to use and they were forced to finish the task using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be on a par with any of the documented cases. Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. Big mistake. I wouldn't assume anything of the sort. She has no ideas who the average hoaxer is. The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. Doesn't this just prove that the somewhat nutty guys who are so into this that they would spend their nights doing it are just way better at it than a bunch of hired dabblers? It seems to make the point that no extraterrestrial agency is necessary doesn't it? Well, not really. They could only meet two of the three criteria, for one thing; and they didn't do such a good job with one of the two they managed to accomplish. But even more of a problem is why crop circle makers would go to all the trouble of creating these effects with advanced technology in the first place: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly These characteristics were only discovered after intensive scientific investigation; they aren't anything anybody would be able to see without careful measurements with complicated instruments. Nor would they result simply from the process of mashing down crops in patterns. It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. This is an instance where what I've called the folk- wisdom version of Occam's razor applies. You really have to stand on your head to explain it away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me? I wasn't aware that I had challenged you. It's a figure of speech stemming from the fact I've read Barry's posts and come to a different conclusion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. You involved yourself when you challenged me. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me? I wasn't aware that I had challenged you. I think your analysis here is way wide of the mark, maybe you're projecting most of this, I really don't know how you got into this state but it seems to be a hallmark of your online relationships. Can we admit that? But Judy, Mean spirited? I think the guy's all heart. Unhappy? A joke, surely. Dishonest? I don't know where you're getting this from. Maybe it all just boils down to the fact he doesn't like you. It's a figure of speech stemming from the fact I've read Barry's posts and come to a different conclusion. Did you read the ones I quoted in my current post, along with my responses?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. Doesn't this just prove that the somewhat nutty guys who are so into this that they would spend their nights doing it are just way better at it than a bunch of hired dabblers? It seems to make the point that no extraterrestrial agency is necessary doesn't it? Well, not really. They could only meet two of the three criteria, for one thing; and they didn't do such a good job with one of the two they managed to accomplish. But even more of a problem is why crop circle makers would go to all the trouble of creating these effects with advanced technology in the first place: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly It may be an artifact of the unknown process that they use. Which also answers this point: It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. It may be just a byproduct of how they are doing it. The extent of human ingenuity is fantastic. The jump you don't seem to make, which many people do who are into this is to claim, is that they know they are done my aliens. Same with UFOs, they are unidentified. The jump to identifying them as alien crafts is an unnecessary jump. with crop circles all we can say is that we don't have all the answers to all ways they are done. But the suggestion that we need to imagine that humans couldn't do it seems far fetched to me. Is this one for your don't rule it out box? I think I am more convinced that it is humans who are really into this kind of thing. But this topic always interests me in where you are drawing your lines while challenging the simple explanations. It is one of your best raps IMO. These characteristics were only discovered after intensive scientific investigation; they aren't anything anybody would be able to see without careful measurements with complicated instruments. Nor would they result simply from the process of mashing down crops in patterns. It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. This is an instance where what I've called the folk- wisdom version of Occam's razor applies. You really have to stand on your head to explain it away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. You involved yourself when you challenged me. Richard, meet the Tarbaby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30VGNiqUD2c (the story starts about 3:00 minutes into the clip, and gets relevant to Judy's insanity at about 6:20) You challenged Judy's Holy Word, dude. Now you have to keep replying to her every followup post until she feels that you have been adequately humiliated for your heresy. Welcome to the club. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. And hardly the only UK location for army camps, you can't walk five miles round my way without seeing tanks patrolling the pine woods. It's just an idea it could be anyone. And I have to accept, anything. Until we know for sure. But I'm convinced it's people doing this, the one above is too irregular in places to be from the Space Brothers, and I know that sounds like a stupid thing to say but if they have the technology to get all the way over here then why don't why do a decent job? FWIW, I don't think it's the Space Brothers. I don't know what the hell it is. But this one is actually about as regular as they get. I don't see how they could be made any more regular, considering that they're made in natural materials. I'm not even sure what you're referring to about irregularities. snip Here's an interesting bit from the Wikipedia article on crop circles: It is interesting but I remember a programme about CCs, two experts with competing theories were taken to a fresh crop circle and allowed to test it. Neither of them knew that the other was also being given access but both of them claimed that the circle proved their ideas, which were contradictory, on how the circles are formed and the effects on the straw. Both tested for something and found proof but they couldn't both have been right! Imagine how pissed off they were when the documentary maker showed them film of the circle being made by Doug and Dave the night before. They really weren't happy but they should have been pleased because they helped demonstrate an important point about science and crop circles. I don't know anything about this particular incident, although I know there have been such donnybrooks. The question is whether the one you refer to is anything like what Wikipedia described in terms of the tests performed. Also see my post to Curtis about the extreme unlikelihood of human circle makers using advanced technology to plant this kind of virtually invisible evidence in their circles, effects that have nothing to do with the *patterns* themselves, or the purportedly perfectly ordinary creation thereof. I am at a loss as to how they do it in such a short time though, and at night, damn clever. But then they've had a lot of practise. If you're at a loss to know how they create the patterns overnight, you should be gobsmacked to find that while they're doing that, they *also* are using complicated technology to create effects (at least one of which couldn't be replicated) that can be discovered only by careful measurement with advanced scientific instrumentation--and were doing so well before the Discovery Channel project was undertaken.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. Doesn't this just prove that the somewhat nutty guys who are so into this that they would spend their nights doing it are just way better at it than a bunch of hired dabblers? It seems to make the point that no extraterrestrial agency is necessary doesn't it? Well, not really. They could only meet two of the three criteria, for one thing; and they didn't do such a good job with one of the two they managed to accomplish. But even more of a problem is why crop circle makers would go to all the trouble of creating these effects with advanced technology in the first place: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly These characteristics were only discovered after intensive scientific investigation; they aren't anything anybody would be able to see without careful measurements with complicated instruments. Nor would they result simply from the process of mashing down crops in patterns. It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. It reminds me of the Noahs Ark someone found on top of mount Ararat in Turkey. They were convinced it was the real thing as it was boat shaped and magnetic imaging revealed it had metal nails set at regular intervals all over it just like a boat would have. When someone independent got permission to examine it they turned to be natural. It was case of someone with an interest in it being what they wanted it to be misinterpeting the evidence to suit their theory. Just as the two circle experts did in the documentary I mentioned. This is an instance where what I've called the folk- wisdom version of Occam's razor applies. You really have to stand on your head to explain it away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But even more of a problem is why crop circle makers would go to all the trouble of creating these effects with advanced technology in the first place: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly It may be an artifact of the unknown process that they use. Who uses? The guys with a couple of boards and a rope who supposedly are creating all these circles? Which also answers this point: It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. It may be just a byproduct of how they are doing it. The extent of human ingenuity is fantastic. You would think that if this were the case, the scientists who are intent on debunking a non-human origin for the circles would be able to extrapolate from these highly specific effects to how they are doing it. The jump you don't seem to make, which many people do who are into this is to claim, is that they know they are done my aliens. Right, I don't make that jump. Same with UFOs, they are unidentified. The jump to identifying them as alien crafts is an unnecessary jump. with crop circles all we can say is that we don't have all the answers to all ways they are done. But the suggestion that we need to imagine that humans couldn't do it seems far fetched to me. Is this one for your don't rule it out box? Yup. But I lean in the other direction; I think it's far-fetched to imagine that humans *could* do it, if we haven't been able to figure out how after all these years--again, not just creating the patterns, but doing so in such a way that these weird invisible effects are created along with them. I mean, the debunkers so far have focused only on the fact that reasonable facimiles of crop circles can be created by humans with ordinary equipment, assuming on that basis that they've *all* been created this way. But then you throw in the invisible effects as well, and you've got a *lot* more explaining to do. I think I am more convinced that it is humans who are really into this kind of thing. But this topic always interests me in where you are drawing your lines while challenging the simple explanations. It is one of your best raps IMO. Thanks. Where I'm at right now is that there is a whole batch of *very* odd phenomena--crop circles and UFO abduction experiences among them--happening right under our noses that we can't begin to explain in terms of our conventional understanding of How It All Works, and which, in fact, appear to *contradict* that understanding. At this point, I can't see how to come to any conclusion other than that there's a very significant slice of How It All Works that we don't even suspect *exists*, much less have a clue about what's involved. In other words, I think the likelihood that conventional explanations of these phenomena are adequate is very, very remote--but I can't rule it out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man!
Wow! Remember Primo incense? You either loved it or hated it. It was great for the frats at MIU when we first moved in to help cover the smell of rotting mice in the walls, especially during the winter. So I always associate Primo incense smell with rotting mouse flesh! --- On Mon, 7/21/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:43 AM (the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion #151; burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over.' (FASEB 2008) Indeed, ancient tradition suggests that perfumed smoke may lift our moods. Before reaching for marginal, potentially problematic medicines like Prozac, it seems worth trying incense #133; plus omega-3s, exercise, positive thinking, and socializing! Sources Moussaieff A, Rimmerman N, Bregman T, Straiker A, Felder CC, Shoham S, Kashman Y, Huang SM, Lee H, Shohami E, Mackie K, Caterina MJ, Walker JM, Fride E, Mechoulam R. Incensole acetate, an incense component, elicits psychoactivity by activating TRPV3 channels in the brain. FASEB J. 2008 May 20. [Epub ahead of print] FASEB. Incense is psychoactive: Scientists identify the biology behind the ceremony. Accessed online July 12, 2008 at http://www.fasebj.org/Press_Room/07_101865_Press_Release.shtml To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- On Mon, 7/21/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:49 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responses interwoven below: --- On Mon, 7/21/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fairfielders still has a chance if they fully join the programmes in the Domes and do their part of the work in creating coherence. This is true Mother Nature is very patient, but not forever patient. Your predictions might come through faster than many will find comfortable. Have you been sleepiong with Mother Nature. You seem to know her will so clearly. I'm Her son. No sleepiong necessary. Sorry about the Freudian slip there! ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. It reminds me of the Noahs Ark someone found on top of mount Ararat in Turkey. They were convinced it was the real thing as it was boat shaped and magnetic imaging revealed it had metal nails set at regular intervals all over it just like a boat would have. When someone independent got permission to examine it they turned to be natural. It was case of someone with an interest in it being what they wanted it to be misinterpeting the evidence to suit their theory. Just as the two circle experts did in the documentary I mentioned. Yeah, that's not at all parallel to the test I quoted from Wikipedia.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Cynics, vain amateur Buddhist's, egos out of control like Barry and other fools firmly rooted in darkness are free not to comment: That list obviously doesn't include me so: It's quite a pretty little design the only bit I couldn't work out is where they measured the outer eye shapes from, but if you look up close they aren't very well done, a bit wobbly in places. I'm starting to wonder if they design these using GPS or SatNav it would make it much easier in the dark. But then some really good ones arrived before computer aided navigation didn't they? Yes indeedy. But I've always held a suspicion that the army is involved here, it would be a good way to test new technologies in the dark and the army testing range on Salisbury plain is right in the middle of all these circles. Trouble with that theory is that there are circles all over the world. And Salisbury Plain is hardly the only U.K. location for circles. And hardly the only UK location for army camps, you can't walk five miles round my way without seeing tanks patrolling the pine woods. It's just an idea it could be anyone. And I have to accept, anything. Until we know for sure. But I'm convinced it's people doing this, the one above is too irregular in places to be from the Space Brothers, and I know that sounds like a stupid thing to say but if they have the technology to get all the way over here then why don't why do a decent job? FWIW, I don't think it's the Space Brothers. I don't know what the hell it is. But this one is actually about as regular as they get. I don't see how they could be made any more regular, considering that they're made in natural materials. I'm not even sure what you're referring to about irregularities. There are plenty of wobbly lines and bits where one person (I'm going to make that assumption) trod one way and someone else trod the other and the radiating lines aren't very good either. To me they are hall- marks of humans having a go but not doing it perfectly, it's what I'd expect late at night in a field. If you're at a loss to know how they create the patterns overnight, you should be gobsmacked to find that while they're doing that, they *also* are using complicated technology to create effects (at least one of which couldn't be replicated) that can be discovered only by careful measurement with advanced scientific instrumentation--and were doing so well before the Discovery Channel project was undertaken. If that's true I would indeed be gobsmacked but I'm not sure how much see my comments about the Ark after Curtis' bit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
Vaj wrote: This has to be the most useful PDA/Cell phone device ever created. With the new inclusion of Apple-screened applications, there's simply nothing remotely like it outside of science fiction. Press the button for Maps and the built-in GPS shows your location on satellite. The inclusion of 3rd party apps greatly extends it's usability. Everything from Astronomy applications which tell me a stars name merely by pointing at it in the sky to voice recognition programs that transcribe what I speak and then email me the text. Computer games that rely on the tilt of device rather than having to punch some controls constantly with your thumbs. It remote controls my entire music library with a mere touch and streams it to my home stereo. And on and on. It's the closest thing to Star Trek ever invented. If you don't mind spending 70 bucks a month for cell phone and your data plan, this device rocks. If you don't need the cell coverage and can rely on hotspots or a home wireless network, you can make phone calls with Skype or some similar device and pay $O in cell coverage by purchasing an iPod Touch. Either way both include inexpensive and many free third party applications which provide an amazing amount of extensibility. According to a PDA developer's group I hang out on the ones that are offering apps via the iPhone Apple store are running into a snag that show Apple didn't think things out too well. Apple doesn't provide the user list to the developer until they get paid 45 days later in the meantime they don't know whether they support emails they get are really from people who purchased their product or not. Also it is next to impossible for the developers to provide bug fixes on this platform. Of course just like the MP3 player which Apple did not invent neither did it invent pocket computers, those have been around for over a decade so to use such hype in their ads is a little misleading. And by the way how do you type in a URL on the iPhone? Do you get a full keyboard on the screen or the slow way you do it on a phone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These days I'm going with blueberries man. They are in season, my internet news source says they are good for me, and I freak'n love them! Eating a cup of them on my cereal in season is like handing Maharishi a flower back in the day! (OK, my bliss bar has been lowered a bit.) Raised, some would say. :-) After all, blueberry bliss is based on something more profound than moodmaking. The local farmer's market as fresh ones for a great price and they are ripe and sweet. Often the ones at the supermarket are picked a little under ripe and sour. The folks selling them are from Brazil (the berries are raised on a farm up in the Sierras).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. You involved yourself when you challenged me. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me? I wasn't aware that I had challenged you. I think your analysis here is way wide of the mark, maybe you're projecting most of this, I really don't know how you got into this state but it seems to be a hallmark of your online relationships. Can we admit that? Can we? I'm serious, you do seem to rub people up the wrong way. How come I never do that? Well, maybe I do but not too much I hope. But Judy, Mean spirited? I think the guy's all heart. Unhappy? A joke, surely. Dishonest? I don't know where you're getting this from. Maybe it all just boils down to the fact he doesn't like you. Ooh, that's not a challenge! It's a fair comment I think. It's a figure of speech stemming from the fact I've read Barry's posts and come to a different conclusion. Did you read the ones I quoted in my current post, along with my responses? Yes, but I wasn't impressed. It's all too open to interpretation, did you think it would change my, or anybody's, mind. Just like that? As I say I modify my opinions as new information comes in.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
amarnath wrote: besides the blueberries, here's a SuperFood many people overlook: GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES they have the highest NUTRIENTS/CALORIE density of all the food groups at least those that are readily accessible from your local supermarket, farm, garden, etc spirulina does come in handy, if you're in India where there are almost no green leafy vegetables to be had in many places Small point here is not everyone has kapha or pitta imbalance, right? Astringent and bitter vegatables as with the great leafy type can aggravate vata. So they're not a panacea. In India you get cooked green leafy vegetables. If you can't take the spices they can also come them up in Chinese dishes which are often found in the back half of the menu in restaurants there.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
Rick Archer, the famous rumourmonger, along with all those spiritual vampires that resides in Fairfield have been working hard for the dissolvment of that city for many years now. As I have pointed out on several occasions here before. Right, they tried evil incantations to bring in natural disasters, but the flood waters could not reach. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Mon, 7/21/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 9:30 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] What will happen to Fairfield? If there is a split of this magnitude, it could very well weaken the Movement to the degree that MIU dissolves and most everyone moves away from Fairfield. Good time to sell the casa, Rick. Rick Archer, the famous rumourmonger, along with all those spiritual vampires that resides in Fairfield have been working hard for the dissolvment of that city for many years now. As I have pointed out on several occasions here before. The Fairfielders still has a chance if they fully join the programmes in the Domes and do their part of the work in creating coherence. Mother Nature is very patient, but not forever patient. Your predictions might come through faster than many will find comfortable. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles in England
Yup. But I lean in the other direction; I think it's far-fetched to imagine that humans *could* do it, if we haven't been able to figure out how after all these years--again, not just creating the patterns, but doing so in such a way that these weird invisible effects are created along with them. That is what interests me when this topic comes up, we seem to be on slightly different sides of the same line. I don't believe that the debunkers can match the intensity of the guys doing it. There are obviously quite a few different people and for all we know it may be a number of people's life's work. Throw in a person with a complete fixation, and I doubt that any part-timer is gunna figure it out. The ones that were done by the guys with boards made for an aha moment. It seemed amazing that a couple of yahoos with boards on their feet could do something so grand, (or would want to!) but they did some of them. Same thing with the ones that this explanation doesn't cover. I'll bet when the technique comes out we will smack out foreheads and say brilliant, why didn't I think of that? And also likely, what a freak'n nutjob! But I appreciate your pushing the mystery aspect which is not yet explained. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But even more of a problem is why crop circle makers would go to all the trouble of creating these effects with advanced technology in the first place: 1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes 2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems 3. The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly It may be an artifact of the unknown process that they use. Who uses? The guys with a couple of boards and a rope who supposedly are creating all these circles? Which also answers this point: It strains credulity to think circle makers would have planted this kind of anomalous, virtually invisible evidence throughout circles that would have been difficult enough to create overnight without it. It may be just a byproduct of how they are doing it. The extent of human ingenuity is fantastic. You would think that if this were the case, the scientists who are intent on debunking a non-human origin for the circles would be able to extrapolate from these highly specific effects to how they are doing it. The jump you don't seem to make, which many people do who are into this is to claim, is that they know they are done my aliens. Right, I don't make that jump. Same with UFOs, they are unidentified. The jump to identifying them as alien crafts is an unnecessary jump. with crop circles all we can say is that we don't have all the answers to all ways they are done. But the suggestion that we need to imagine that humans couldn't do it seems far fetched to me. Is this one for your don't rule it out box? Yup. But I lean in the other direction; I think it's far-fetched to imagine that humans *could* do it, if we haven't been able to figure out how after all these years--again, not just creating the patterns, but doing so in such a way that these weird invisible effects are created along with them. I mean, the debunkers so far have focused only on the fact that reasonable facimiles of crop circles can be created by humans with ordinary equipment, assuming on that basis that they've *all* been created this way. But then you throw in the invisible effects as well, and you've got a *lot* more explaining to do. I think I am more convinced that it is humans who are really into this kind of thing. But this topic always interests me in where you are drawing your lines while challenging the simple explanations. It is one of your best raps IMO. Thanks. Where I'm at right now is that there is a whole batch of *very* odd phenomena--crop circles and UFO abduction experiences among them--happening right under our noses that we can't begin to explain in terms of our conventional understanding of How It All Works, and which, in fact, appear to *contradict* that understanding. At this point, I can't see how to come to any conclusion other than that there's a very significant slice of How It All Works that we don't even suspect *exists*, much less have a clue about what's involved. In other words, I think the likelihood that conventional explanations of these phenomena are adequate is very, very remote--but I can't rule it out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: According to a PDA developer's group I hang out on the ones that are offering apps via the iPhone Apple store are running into a snag that show Apple didn't think things out too well. Apple doesn't provide the user list to the developer until they get paid 45 days later in the meantime they don't know whether they support emails they get are really from people who purchased their product or not. Also it is next to impossible for the developers to provide bug fixes on this platform. Of course just like the MP3 player which Apple did not invent neither did it invent pocket computers, those have been around for over a decade so to use such hype in their ads is a little misleading. And by the way how do you type in a URL on the iPhone? Do you get a full keyboard on the screen or the slow way you do it on a phone. You just tap on the address field and a multi-touch keyboard appears on the screen. It actually learns typing errors on the fly and corrects them. After just a couple of weeks, I'm getting pretty good at it. It wouldn't work good for people with long fingernails. I'm pretty happy with the apps I've downloaded. For example one called Shazam, which I'd never heard of this possibility before, will listen to any song playing and identify it for you. So when I hear an odd song on the radio, classical, rock, a song in a movie, it doesn't matter, you just hold up the iPhone to the sound source and it tells you the song, the album it came off of and shows the album art. It also looks up any related videos on YouTube! Like many apps there, it's free. I have yet to try video rentals on the thing, but I do like the idea of renting videos before a vacation and just watching them when you want, where you want on the phone or connected to a TV. It's a brand new platform, so I'm sure there will be a few snags, but so far it's been a great experience as a user. In fact it's one of the most positive user experiences I've had with any product. If there's some things that aren't worked out very well, I have yet to come across them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. I agree. We know very well that this means diddley (sorry Bo) to the rest of the world Turq. But since we, at one time were deeply involved, it is fascinating to watch unfold, you know, like watching a train wreck.
[FairfieldLife] A musical interlude (was: Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness)
For those of you who don't understand why Ruth left, and why right about now Hugo probably feels like doing the same, may I present a short educational film to explain things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhF-7suDsM Argument to Beethoven's Fifth, by Sid Caesar and Nanette Fabray. The difference is that if Judy was the woman in this scenario, it would take the guy the entire symphony before he could get away. (The clip really is hilarious, BTW, whatever you think of Judy.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. You involved yourself when you challenged me. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me? I wasn't aware that I had challenged you. I think your analysis here is way wide of the mark, maybe you're projecting most of this, I really don't know how you got into this state but it seems to be a hallmark of your online relationships. Can we admit that? Can we? I'm serious, you do seem to rub people up the wrong way. How come I never do that? Well, maybe I do but not too much I hope. But Judy, Mean spirited? I think the guy's all heart. Unhappy? A joke, surely. Dishonest? I don't know where you're getting this from. Maybe it all just boils down to the fact he doesn't like you. Ooh, that's not a challenge! It's a fair comment I think. It's a figure of speech stemming from the fact I've read Barry's posts and come to a different conclusion. Did you read the ones I quoted in my current post, along with my responses? Yes, but I wasn't impressed. It's all too open to interpretation, did you think it would change my, or anybody's, mind. Just like that? As I say I modify my opinions as new information comes in.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Remember Primo incense? You either loved it or hated it. It was great for the frats at MIU when we first moved in to help cover the smell of rotting mice in the walls, especially during the winter. So I always associate Primo incense smell with rotting mouse flesh! ...and I will always associate the frats with the time I was sitting on the toilet one morning minding my own business and one of those mices ran across one of my feets. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:43 AM (the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion #151; burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over.' (FASEB 2008) Indeed, ancient tradition suggests that perfumed smoke may lift our moods. Before reaching for marginal, potentially problematic medicines like Prozac, it seems worth trying incense #133; plus omega-3s, exercise, positive thinking, and socializing! Sources Moussaieff A, Rimmerman N, Bregman T, Straiker A, Felder CC, Shoham S, Kashman Y, Huang SM, Lee H, Shohami E, Mackie K, Caterina MJ, Walker JM, Fride E, Mechoulam R. Incensole acetate, an incense component, elicits psychoactivity by activating TRPV3 channels in the brain. FASEB J. 2008 May 20. [Epub ahead of print] FASEB. Incense is psychoactive: Scientists identify the biology behind the ceremony. Accessed online July 12, 2008 at http://www.fasebj.org/Press_Room/07_101865_Press_Release.shtml To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amarnath wrote: besides the blueberries, here's a SuperFood many people overlook: GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES they have the highest NUTRIENTS/CALORIE density of all the food groups at least those that are readily accessible from your local supermarket, farm, garden, etc spirulina does come in handy, if you're in India where there are almost no green leafy vegetables to be had in many places Small point here is not everyone has kapha or pitta imbalance, right? Astringent and bitter vegatables as with the great leafy type can aggravate vata. So they're not a panacea. In India you get cooked green leafy vegetables. If you can't take the spices they can also come them up in Chinese dishes which are often found in the back half of the menu in restaurants there. Cook your collard greens with smoked ham hock like I do. That'll cure your vata problems!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. #184410 Nah, Judy. You said page after page. You call this puny post meaningful? That's ALL you can come up with.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:12 PM, geezerfreak wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. #184410 Nah, Judy. You said page after page. You call this puny post meaningful? That's ALL you can come up with. Yeah I'm waiting for it to come out in novella size or till it's adapted as a feature length movie before I buy it. After years of incessant whining I would've expected 1008 Reasons Not to Like Barry, or the Encyclopedia of Barry the LIAR. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man!
--- On Mon, 7/21/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:05 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Remember Primo incense? You either loved it or hated it. It was great for the frats at MIU when we first moved in to help cover the smell of rotting mice in the walls, especially during the winter. So I always associate Primo incense smell with rotting mouse flesh! ...and I will always associate the frats with the time I was sitting on the toilet one morning minding my own business and one of those mices ran across one of my feets. What frat did you live in. I was in 152, the silent fratwhat ever the hell that meant! The hot women were in frat 150. This is the early days at MIU '74-'76 --- On Mon, 7/21/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:43 AM (the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion #151; burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over.' (FASEB 2008) Indeed, ancient tradition suggests that perfumed smoke may lift our moods. Before reaching for marginal, potentially problematic medicines like Prozac, it seems worth trying incense #133; plus omega-3s, exercise, positive thinking, and socializing! Sources Moussaieff A, Rimmerman N, Bregman T, Straiker A, Felder CC, Shoham S, Kashman Y, Huang SM, Lee H, Shohami E, Mackie K, Caterina MJ, Walker JM, Fride E, Mechoulam R. Incensole acetate, an incense component, elicits psychoactivity by activating TRPV3 channels in the brain. FASEB J. 2008 May 20. [Epub ahead of print] FASEB. Incense is psychoactive: Scientists identify the biology
[FairfieldLife] Pics from Denmark
Pictures (kuvat) from Denmark taken by, I believe, a Finnish siddha, Mr. Vaulasto: http://veeda.kuvat.fi/kuvat/tapani-in-denmark/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man!
I lived in 153, the furthest frat before the reservoir. Peter Lyons and I arrived a day before everyone else and we changed the room numbers around to allow us to pick the best rooms. I remember how puzzled the housing guy was when the complaints rolled in, but my squatters rights held up! Of course I did catch a bit of karma having picked a corner room facing the cornfields, so when the wind blew it came right through my bones. The ladies were on the other side of the frat so it was a slice of heaven before the prudes took over in later years. Since it was such a wilderness out there and I had to pass Maharishi's frat to get home, I ended up seeing him in small groups quite a bit that Winter. I guess they figured that if I made it that far in the snow they aught to let me in! And the smell of sandalwood incense and decay hung in the air... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Mon, 7/21/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:05 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wow! Remember Primo incense? You either loved it or hated it. It was great for the frats at MIU when we first moved in to help cover the smell of rotting mice in the walls, especially during the winter. So I always associate Primo incense smell with rotting mouse flesh! ...and I will always associate the frats with the time I was sitting on the toilet one morning minding my own business and one of those mices ran across one of my feets. What frat did you live in. I was in 152, the silent fratwhat ever the hell that meant! The hot women were in frat 150. This is the early days at MIU '74-'76 --- On Mon, 7/21/08, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:43 AM (the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen
On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:11 AM, Peter wrote: Seth died from a necrotizing soft tissue infection. His symptoms appeared last Tuesday, he was in a coma with a 105 degree fever on Wednesday. He seemed to have stabilized on Friday, but took a turn for the worse on Saturday and died that night. That was fast. My apologies for my flip remarks. I did wonder why people waited until the last minute before asking others to weigh in, but this answers that. I only hope it was quick and painless. RIP, Seth. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of stalking off of Internet groups in a snit...
A classic, from alt.meditation.transcendental, 5 Nov 2003. To set the scene, Shemp had been being nothing more than his usual self, the Shemp we know and love from Fairfield Life, going on a tear about Why are so many poor people so fat? Judy took umbrage at this, and reacted by stalking off the newsgroup in a snit, aiming a stinging parting shot at Shemp and someone named Delia, whom she would later come to embrace and laud as soon as she jumped on me. The good part's at the end. Judy returned 58 hours later, and made a total of 2,560 posts over the next three months. Subject: Good bye Delia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Shemp McGurk wrote: John Manning wrote: Judy Stein wrote: snip The free food is handed out at nine, but the queue starts forming hours earlier. By dawn, there is a line of cars stretching half a mile back. This is just precious. Only in America would a soup kitchen have a queue consisting of automobiles. What I found quite revealing was in the article that Judy quoted, where it noted that these people who are going 'hungry' often have a problem with *obesity*: Barbara Laraia, an associate professor of nutrition at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, said hunger and obesity can coexist because many hungry families struggle with their weight. [Notice that because does not really offer a reason at all; it just begs the question: how can 'hungry' people be obese?] Right. I wonder if Delia is having problems with her short-term memory, since the because is given in the next paragraph. She quotes it, but she doesn't seem to remember what she just wrote and leaves it as it stands. She said they tend to buy high-calorie foods that are low in nutrients. [And whose fault is that, do you suppose?] They're dependent on foods that are going to make their bellies feel full, rather than on nutrients, Laraia said. The diet is compromised. Well, if going hungry is all about eating stuff that makes you feel good, rather than food that's good for you, then there are lots of rich people going hungry in America, too. Perhaps we should subsidize them, too. Reading this comment of Delia's, you'd almost think it weren't obvious that dollar for dollar, you can buy a lot more food that keeps you from feeling hungry than food that's nutrient rich. At my local Foodtown, you can get a 20-pound bag of white rice for $5. For the same amount of money, you can get a package of celery, a pound of zucchini, 3 pounds of cabbage, and five oranges; or you can get a five-pound chicken. Which of these three choices is going to keep you from feeling hungry longer? snip When we read how we need to provide more money to combat hunger in obese people, or to support the eight children of a poor family who is busy making eight more -- then it's no wonder that some of us feel that we are being asked to pay for other people's stupidity. *Some* of us. Others of us aren't so blinded by our own self-interest and projected rage that we aren't capable of a little empathy and a bit of commonsense extrapolation. There is very little I've read on this newsgroup in the eight or nine years I've participated here that has given me any reason for doubt about whether TM is what MMY says it is. The odious comments of people like Delia and Shemp, long-time TMers, on social issues have seriously shaken my faith in TM's effectiveness. After many years of practicing TM--and capable of delivering detailed discourses on TM that demonstrate they know what it is--they're still happily paddling around in the fetid muck at the very bottom of the barrel of human values. Considering where they are now, consumed by hatred, incapable of empathy, oblivious to logic, what can they possibly have progressed *from*? I'm leaving the newsgroup. The rotten stench of Delia's and Shemp's presence here is simply too much for me to deal with. It's turning me into a hater, and that is not a good feeling. I have to pray they're in the minority, that they're some kind of awful throwback on the evolutionary scale, and that their kind will ultimately be weeded out. The continued existence of the human race on this planet depends on it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen
--The only natural cure for that is garlic, in large amounts, high potency. The downside: the cure takes at least a month to kick in. By that time the bacteria can already be fatal. Prevention is the only option. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:11 AM, Peter wrote: Seth died from a necrotizing soft tissue infection. His symptoms appeared last Tuesday, he was in a coma with a 105 degree fever on Wednesday. He seemed to have stabilized on Friday, but took a turn for the worse on Saturday and died that night. That was fast. My apologies for my flip remarks. I did wonder why people waited until the last minute before asking others to weigh in, but this answers that. I only hope it was quick and painless. RIP, Seth. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen
he had been unconscious for his last 3 - 4 days with us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:11 AM, Peter wrote: Seth died from a necrotizing soft tissue infection. His symptoms appeared last Tuesday, he was in a coma with a 105 degree fever on Wednesday. He seemed to have stabilized on Friday, but took a turn for the worse on Saturday and died that night. That was fast. My apologies for my flip remarks. I did wonder why people waited until the last minute before asking others to weigh in, but this answers that. I only hope it was quick and painless. RIP, Seth. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious fanaticism squared
This is one of the areas where true believers go wrong. They interpert it literaly. Sri Brigante, you say it's a naturaly occuring cycle. If so how could you nudge the schedule a bit.?? You also say it takes 4.3 million years to convert Kali into Sat.?? Are you sure the figure is accurate.?? Different sources tell different time scales. Historicaly there was never a Sat Yuga. Conventional historians and Paleotontology tell a different story. It only shows that Maharishi is no different from the other Literalists like Prabhupada, Christian fundies etc etc. bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious fanaticism squared (was Re: Fairfield super radiance and Iowa weather) Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 1:50 PM Conversion not to any narrow vision of the world, but conversion to happiness, and not by any human process, but through the naturally occurring cycle in which Kali Yuga is converted to Sat Yuga every 4.3 million years (we're nudging that schedule up a bit).
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: According to a PDA developer's group I hang out on the ones that are offering apps via the iPhone Apple store are running into a snag that show Apple didn't think things out too well. Apple doesn't provide the user list to the developer until they get paid 45 days later in the meantime they don't know whether they support emails they get are really from people who purchased their product or not. Also it is next to impossible for the developers to provide bug fixes on this platform. Of course just like the MP3 player which Apple did not invent neither did it invent pocket computers, those have been around for over a decade so to use such hype in their ads is a little misleading. And by the way how do you type in a URL on the iPhone? Do you get a full keyboard on the screen or the slow way you do it on a phone. You just tap on the address field and a multi-touch keyboard appears on the screen. It actually learns typing errors on the fly and corrects them. After just a couple of weeks, I'm getting pretty good at it. It wouldn't work good for people with long fingernails. Palm and Pocket PC had pop-up keyboards and character recognition for written text. I'm pretty happy with the apps I've downloaded. For example one called Shazam, which I'd never heard of this possibility before, will listen to any song playing and identify it for you. So when I hear an odd song on the radio, classical, rock, a song in a movie, it doesn't matter, you just hold up the iPhone to the sound source and it tells you the song, the album it came off of and shows the album art. It also looks up any related videos on YouTube! Like many apps there, it's free. I think Shazam has been around for awhile on other platforms. I have yet to try video rentals on the thing, but I do like the idea of renting videos before a vacation and just watching them when you want, where you want on the phone or connected to a TV. I've been doing that for several years on other devices. Nothing new. It's a brand new platform, so I'm sure there will be a few snags, but so far it's been a great experience as a user. In fact it's one of the most positive user experiences I've had with any product. If there's some things that aren't worked out very well, I have yet to come across them. The platform is a year old or more. Apple won't listen to experienced people because they have a not invented here attitude (I used to deal with time in my corporate position). They picked up that both the Palm and Pocket PC phones as well as a few other platform allowed third party developers make products available. Both the Palm and Pocket PC were in a race for early dominance of the market. The Palm was made by a bunch of expat Newton developers which was another device that Apple didn't get right. You can still run Palm apps even old ones on most of their phones and Pocket PC apps run on a lot of phones. There has been this fascist attitude that some corporations like ATT got into that only big companies should be able to make software. That was an ill thought out attitude because big companies are not going to make niche products that sell in small quantities. So I can applaud Apple for opening up the platform but they have a competitor namely Google on an agenda to make a phone safe platform that any developer can create products for. The developer's kit for the iPhone is only $99 (again I applaud) but then you also have to have a Mac running Leopard. For some small developers that's still a bit of an investment and risk. Small niche programs won't get the testing needed and there will need to be updates for bugs. At least they include an iPhone simulator so you don't need an iPhone to develop. My great niece (who is a little overly spoiled like most kids these days) got the new iPhone too and was talking about it last night. Enjoy your new toy. BTW, who makes Apple's motherboards? ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Magic foods
curtisdeltablues wrote: - Cook your collard greens with smoked ham hock like I do. That'll cure your vata problems! Nah! Too much trouble. I'll just go to the famous barbecue at Jack London Square in Oakland for that. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious fanaticism squared
--right. This is the result of idle speculation among bored Pundits. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the areas where true believers go wrong. They interpert it literaly. Sri Brigante, you say it's a naturaly occuring cycle. If so how could you nudge the schedule a bit.?? You also say it takes 4.3 million years to convert Kali into Sat.?? Are you sure the figure is accurate.?? Different sources tell different time scales. Historicaly there was never a Sat Yuga. Conventional historians and Paleotontology tell a different story. It only shows that Maharishi is no different from the other Literalists like Prabhupada, Christian fundies etc etc. bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious fanaticism squared (was Re: Fairfield super radiance and Iowa weather) Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 1:50 PM Conversion not to any narrow vision of the world, but conversion to happiness, and not by any human process, but through the naturally occurring cycle in which Kali Yuga is converted to Sat Yuga every 4.3 million years (we're nudging that schedule up a bit).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Toy
Richard J. Williams wrote: bhairitu wrote: ...an ASUS Eee PC 2G Surf running Linux. http://eeepc.asus.com/global/ For what purpose would you be needing an ultra- portable laptop computer with the small keys and small screen? Rita thought we should get one, but we don't travel much and don't hang out at Starbucks much anymore. But I'd still like to have one anyway. Can the Asus replace a Blackberry? I can't be carrying around a lot of toys, since I like to fly about. What about the weight? But, maybe I would pay $200 for an ASUS Eee PC 2G instantly, if I saw one on the shelf, but where? Also try your local mom and pop computer store if you have any left and most places do as they usually cater to businesses since that's not the forte of the big electronics stores. My nephew told me that one of the local computer shops have the Eee PCs. You might also want to check this Eee PC user site for pros and cons and what version you might like: www.eeeuser.com Two gigs is a little slim but I have some apps to clean out like the Learn section which is for kids and will get back more machine memory. The 4 gig version for $50 more might be worth it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: iPhone 3g, was New Toy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The platform is a year old or more. Apple won't listen to experienced people because they have a not invented here attitude (I used to deal with time in my corporate position). Tell me about it. I worked for Apple (as a contractor) for a year, in the building on the Cupertino campus in which they built the Mac. It was still full of video games and popcorn machines, which reeked of history, because they fueled the programmers and hardware geeks who built the Mac. It was a strange and fascinating experience for me. I was, after all, living in Palo Alto because the Rama guy had decided that it was the Happening Place, and like any other stupid cultist, I moved there. :-) Which means that I wasn't just viewing my work environment as that place where one goes to pay the bills, but as a real LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, one in which one can make some spiritual progress. The Apple contract was a great gig -- don't get me wrong. I worked as an Instructional Designer (a geek who writes training materials) and a HyperCard programmer (a geek who does with links the same things an 8-year-old can do today). And I got paid well for it. Unlike Apple fanatics, I have pleasant memories of the Sculley era. But it was the MINDSET, man! Most of the people working on either side of me, and ALL of the tech people, had GROWN UP using nothing but Apple computers. They had first used Apple IIs in school (because Jobs wisely gave the schools their computers as a tax writeoff and a way of getting future Apple junkies hooked) who had never -- in their entire lives -- used a different kind of computer. By that time in my career, I had sat at and worked at twenty different kinds of computers. And I had my own ideas about what was good about each of them and what was...uh...not so much good. 128K and no hard drive on the first Mac was...uh...not so much good. Neither were the lame-brained ideas like hardware dongles for software copy protection that Apple execs loved so much. It was as much a cult environment as I have ever been in in my life, and if you listen to Shemp and Willytex, I've been in quite a few of them. :-) Shocking ignorance of the state of the art. Shocking. I spent my evenings after working at Apple hanging with nerds from SRI (Stanford Research Institute), right down the street from where I lived. Now *those* were cool froods. Hangin' ten on the edge of technology and computer science, gettin' PAID for it, and diggin' every minute of it. *They* knew what was hot and what wasn't. And they tolerated me, even though I worked for one of the companies that wasn't hot. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste. For what it's worth, Curtis (and please understand that the comment I made in my earlier post about your music being sucky was purely in jest, and that your GF really IS hot, just like I said in the note I included in your most recent check), I agree with your assessment here. And, since I'm in Go For It mood today, I believe that Maharishi both expected him to do just this, and would be pleased by it. Who sent all the billions to the Only People Who Count: Indians? Maharishi did. People I know carried suitcases of money to India for him *for the express purpose* of giving it to the Only People Who Count. I think that there is some truth in Shemp's earlier snip that he gave Westerners all that they deserved, and sent the cash to the Only People Who Mattered. If there is a race for the TM movement that best reflects Maharishi's thinking, I think Girish may possibly be in the lead.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:12 PM, geezerfreak wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. #184410 Nah, Judy. You said page after page. You call this puny post meaningful? That's ALL you can come up with. Yeah I'm waiting for it to come out in novella size or till it's adapted as a feature length movie before I buy it. After years of incessant whining I would've expected 1008 Reasons Not to Like Barry, or the Encyclopedia of Barry the LIAR. :-) Others could formulate 1008 reasons to suspect that Buddhists do not have the best interest of meditators in mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Curtis wrote: Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. There was no 'India' until 1947. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. According to what I've read, Tony Nader comes from a Lebanese Christian family. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? Apparently Bevan is a U.S. citizen. How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? Because you said Tony Nader was an India invader? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste. But, all Indians are invaders - there's no indigenous population in India. My point is that the Indians should just shut their pie-holes; it's the westerners that made the TMO a success. I'm tired of the TMO and MUM sending money over there to Marshy's relatives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Mon, 7/21/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:05 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Wow! Remember Primo incense? You either loved it or hated it. It was great for the frats at MIU when we first moved in to help cover the smell of rotting mice in the walls, especially during the winter. So I always associate Primo incense smell with rotting mouse flesh! ...and I will always associate the frats with the time I was sitting on the toilet one morning minding my own business and one of those mices ran across one of my feets. What frat did you live in. I was in 152, the silent fratwhat ever the hell that meant! The hot women were in frat 150. This is the early days at MIU '74-'76 I came in the fall of '75 and spent the first year in the pods and then some time in the second year and thereafter was in the frats...can't remember the number, though. And no hot babes ever took showers with me there, either (although I heard the stories...) --- On Mon, 7/21/08, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Break out the old Primo Insense man! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:43 AM (the question marks are an artifact of copying the email, sorry.) Incense Soothes the Minds of Mice #133; and Men? Scientists finds that brain-mood benefits lie behind the ancient spiritual use of incense by Craig Weatherby Spiritual seekers of all stripes have long employed incense as a soothing, renewing, inspiring balm for the soul. And scent scientists note that aromas light up the olfactory bulb #133; the only part of the human brain that extends beyond the skull. In this sense, they say that scents can literally change your mind. Now, biologists may have learned one reason why. An international team of researchers from the U.S. and Israel report that burning frankincense #150; resin from the ancient medicinal Boswellia plant #150; activates ion channels in the brain in ways known to alleviate anxiety and depression (Moussaieff A et al. 2008). Key Points Study in mice indicates how and why compounds in incense fumes alleviate anxiety and depression. Aromatic agent in Frankincense affected mouse brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by anxiety/depression drugs. Frankincense agent also activated a protein that plays a role in the skin's perception of warmth. According to co-author Raphael Mechoulam, 'We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent #133; lowers anxiety and causes antidepressant-like behavior.' (FASEB 2008) When the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice, it significantly affected brain areas involved in emotions and nerve circuits affected by current anxiety and depression drugs. Specifically, incensole acetate activated a protein called TRPV3, which is present in mammalian brains and known to play a role in the perception of warmth of the skin. This finding suggests that relief from depression and anxiety #150; and possible sources of new drugs to combat these conditions #150; may lie in this ancient, aromatic element of myriad churches, temples, and yogi caves. As the authors wrote, 'Our results #133; may provide a biological basis for deeply rooted cultural and religious traditions.' Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal, which published the study, made this comment in a press release: 'The discovery of how incensole acetate, purified from frankincense, works on specific targets in the brain should also help us understand diseases of the nervous system. This study also provides a biological explanation for millennia-old spiritual practices that have persisted across time, distance, culture, language, and religion #151; burning incense really does make you feel warm and tingly all over.' (FASEB 2008) Indeed, ancient tradition suggests that perfumed smoke may lift our moods. Before reaching for marginal, potentially problematic medicines like Prozac, it seems worth trying
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pics from Denmark
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pictures (kuvat) from Denmark taken by, I believe, a Finnish siddha, Mr. Vaulasto: http://veeda.kuvat.fi/kuvat/tapani-in-denmark/ TMO meets IKEA...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about �10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether �10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. I agree. We know very well that this means diddley (sorry Bo) to the rest of the world Turq. But since we, at one time were deeply involved, it is fascinating to watch unfold, you know, like watching a train wreck. It means diddley in India, too. Google Maharishi World Peace Movement and you get almost no hits. Even the Indian press has ignored it. It COULD become an issue for the TMO worldwide for various reasons, but I suspect that the world TMO has more resources to draw on that Girish's branch, even if he DID siphon off 40% of the money going into India. On the other hand, he's likely been planning this for a very long time. John Hagelin's experience playing games with Pat Buchanan may come in handy here. Lawson
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: According to a PDA developer's group I hang out on the ones that are offering apps via the iPhone Apple store are running into a snag that show Apple didn't think things out too well. Apple doesn't provide the user list to the developer until they get paid 45 days later in the meantime they don't know whether they support emails they get are really from people who purchased their product or not. Also it is next to impossible for the developers to provide bug fixes on this platform. Of course just like the MP3 player which Apple did not invent neither did it invent pocket computers, those have been around for over a decade so to use such hype in their ads is a little misleading. And by the way how do you type in a URL on the iPhone? Do you get a full keyboard on the screen or the slow way you do it on a phone. You just tap on the address field and a multi-touch keyboard appears on the screen. It actually learns typing errors on the fly and corrects them. After just a couple of weeks, I'm getting pretty good at it. It wouldn't work good for people with long fingernails. Palm and Pocket PC had pop-up keyboards and character recognition for written text. Perhaps they have an implementation of it, but I seriously doubt I'd be interested in using it. I didn't realize there were other multi- touch keyboards out there already. As far as I am aware the pioneer in character recognition was the good ole Apple Newton--purchased from Russian developers many years ago. I'm pretty happy with the apps I've downloaded. For example one called Shazam, which I'd never heard of this possibility before, will listen to any song playing and identify it for you. So when I hear an odd song on the radio, classical, rock, a song in a movie, it doesn't matter, you just hold up the iPhone to the sound source and it tells you the song, the album it came off of and shows the album art. It also looks up any related videos on YouTube! Like many apps there, it's free. I think Shazam has been around for awhile on other platforms. I have yet to try video rentals on the thing, but I do like the idea of renting videos before a vacation and just watching them when you want, where you want on the phone or connected to a TV. I've been doing that for several years on other devices. Nothing new. So have I, but from DVD's onto an iPod, but not exactly legal. It's a brand new platform, so I'm sure there will be a few snags, but so far it's been a great experience as a user. In fact it's one of the most positive user experiences I've had with any product. If there's some things that aren't worked out very well, I have yet to come across them. The platform is a year old or more. Apple won't listen to experienced people because they have a not invented here attitude (I used to deal with time in my corporate position). They picked up that both the Palm and Pocket PC phones as well as a few other platform allowed third party developers make products available. Both the Palm and Pocket PC were in a race for early dominance of the market. The Palm was made by a bunch of expat Newton developers which was another device that Apple didn't get right. You can still run Palm apps even old ones on most of their phones and Pocket PC apps run on a lot of phones. The Newton was just too ahead of it's time. Oh, and there's that Sculley guy. :-) The SDK for the iPhone was just released 4 months ago. There has been this fascist attitude that some corporations like ATT got into that only big companies should be able to make software. That was an ill thought out attitude because big companies are not going to make niche products that sell in small quantities. So I can applaud Apple for opening up the platform but they have a competitor namely Google on an agenda to make a phone safe platform that any developer can create products for. The developer's kit for the iPhone is only $99 (again I applaud) but then you also have to have a Mac running Leopard. For some small developers that's still a bit of an investment and risk. Small niche programs won't get the testing needed and there will need to be updates for bugs. At least they include an iPhone simulator so you don't need an iPhone to develop. My great niece (who is a little overly spoiled like most kids these days) got the new iPhone too and was talking about it last night. Enjoy your new toy. BTW, who makes Apple's motherboards? ;-) I have no idea, not much into repairing them (I've actually never had to repair any Apple item I owned!). It seems the current philosophy is to be able to get market standard materials. It looks like they're Samsung from a quick gander on the web.
[FairfieldLife] More examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A classic, from alt.meditation.transcendental, 5 Nov 2003. To set the scene, Shemp had been being nothing more than his usual self, the Shemp we know and love from Fairfield Life, going on a tear about Why are so many poor people so fat? Judy took umbrage at this, and reacted by stalking off the newsgroup in a snit, aiming a stinging parting shot at Shemp and someone named Delia, whom she would later come to embrace and laud as soon as she jumped on me. Knowing lie. As I already pointed out, Delia and I were on excellent terms for several years *before* this falling-out occurred over politics. The good part's at the end. Judy returned 58 hours later, and made a total of 2,560 posts over the next three months. Knowing, blatant lie. Barry made up that number out of whole cloth. In fact, I made only about 100 posts over the next three months--way below my usual total--virtually all in response to attacks on and lies about me from Barry and a couple of others. I didn't participate in any substantive threads for months. All this is easily verifiable. BTW, for a good time, follow the alt.m.t thread that begins here: http://tinyurl.com/58g6ta It's called DHMO Update, and it shows Delia at her best.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Hugo and Geeze have expressed doubt as to whether Barry is, as I've claimed, dishonest and meanspirited. Hugo, following is a bunch of examples from Barry's two most recent posts. Geeze, just this single response from me constitutes several pages of what you didn't believe I could produce. Nah, Judy. You said page after page. You call this puny post meaningful? That's ALL you can come up with. I know you're embarrassed to see all those examples of Barry's blatant lies, Geeze, after having defended him so vigorously, but the above is a pretty weak comeback. This post is no different from what I've been producing for a very long time; it's just the latest instance. You can see hundreds of others if you go back over the traffic here, and probably thousands on alt.m.t. In other words, I've *already* produced page after page (after page after page...) of illustrative examples. They're just not compiled into a single document.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] John Hagelin's experience playing games with Pat Buchanan may come in handy here. Gee, how did that work out for John?
[FairfieldLife] Re: More examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Judy returned 58 hours later, and made a total of 2,560 posts over the next three months. Knowing, blatant lie. Barry made up that number out of whole cloth. In fact, I made only about 100 posts over the next three months--way below my usual total--virtually all in response to attacks on and lies about me from Barry and a couple of others. I didn't participate in any substantive threads for months. All this is easily verifiable. Link to the Google Search Engine, searching for posts made by Judy between 6 Nov 2003 and 6 Feb 2003: http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=num=10scoring=ras_epq=as_oq=as_eq=as_ugroup=alt.meditation.transcendentalas_usubject=as_uauthors=jstein%40panix.comlr=as_qdr=as_drrb=bas_mind=6as_minm=11as_miny=2003as_maxd=6as_maxm=2as_maxy=2003safe=off or http://tinyurl.com/6zex3y My original search said 2,560. This latest search returns merely 172. Mea culpa. As a result of either a Google Search Engine error or my own mistyping, I was off by 94%. My bad, or the Google Search Engine's bad. However, based on her claim of 100 posts above, Judy was off by 42%, so I don't feel so bad. Note that, rather than deal with what she said, she homes in on a nitpick that I -- Evil Shakti (TM) master that I am, may just have left for her to home in on, and doesn't say ONE WORD about what she wrote, and what she did. As for the DMHO distraction, mea culpa. I fell for Delia's setup big-time, and said so at the time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Geeze/Hugo: Examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Well, I just showed you where I'm getting it from, but all of a sudden you're not interested. It's more like I don't want to get involved. You involved yourself when you challenged me. If you don't want to have to deal with the evidence of who the guy you're so convinced is all heart really is, that's fine with me. But if that's the case, why did you go to the trouble of challenging me? I wasn't aware that I had challenged you. I think your analysis here is way wide of the mark, maybe you're projecting most of this, I really don't know how you got into this state but it seems to be a hallmark of your online relationships. Can we admit that? Can we? I'm serious, you do seem to rub people up the wrong way. How come I never do that? Well, maybe I do but not too much I hope. You aren't a pro-TMer in a hotbed of TM critics. That may have something to do with it. But Judy, Mean spirited? I think the guy's all heart. Unhappy? A joke, surely. Dishonest? I don't know where you're getting this from. Maybe it all just boils down to the fact he doesn't like you. Ooh, that's not a challenge! It's a fair comment I think. I think you really have to spin your definitions pretty hard to not call it a challenge. It's a figure of speech stemming from the fact I've read Barry's posts and come to a different conclusion. Did you read the ones I quoted in my current post, along with my responses? Yes, but I wasn't impressed. It's all too open to interpretation Some of it's open to interpretation. Most of what I quoted--and refuted--were *lies*, knowing misrepresentations of fact, which can be documented. did you think it would change my, or anybody's, mind. Just like that? If I were relatively new here and didn't think Barry was a liar because I'd avoided reading his spats with others, that post sure would change my mind, just like that, about his not being a liar. As I say I modify my opinions as new information comes in. You just got a whole bunch of new information, yet somehow you've managed to rationalize it as open to interpretation so you don't have to modify your opinion. (Classic example of somebody dealing with cognitive dissonance.) Have a look at the latest one. Note in particular Barry's completely made-up number of the posts I made on alt.m.t in three months. You can easily check that one yourself if you want.
Re: [FairfieldLife] iPhone 3g, was New Toy
Vaj wrote: Enjoy your new toy. BTW, who makes Apple's motherboards? ;-) I have no idea, not much into repairing them (I've actually never had to repair any Apple item I owned!). It seems the current philosophy is to be able to get market standard materials. It looks like they're Samsung from a quick gander on the web. ASUS. Not only the motherboard but a contract manufacturer of Apple machines. No wonder my Eee PC resembles a small iBook. ;-) (And maybe why the touch pad has only one button on it?)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
On Jul 21, 2008, at 4:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Judy returned 58 hours later, and made a total of 2,560 posts over the next three months. Knowing, blatant lie. Barry made up that number out of whole cloth. In fact, I made only about 100 posts over the next three months--way below my usual total--virtually all in response to attacks on and lies about me from Barry and a couple of others. I didn't participate in any substantive threads for months. All this is easily verifiable. Link to the Google Search Engine, searching for posts made by Judy between 6 Nov 2003 and 6 Feb 2003: http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=num=10scoring=ras_epq=as_oq=as_eq=as_ugroup=alt.meditation.transcendentalas_usubject=as_uauthors=jstein%40panix.comlr=as_qdr=as_drrb=bas_mind=6as_minm=11as_miny=2003as_maxd=6as_maxm=2as_maxy=2003safe=off or http://tinyurl.com/6zex3y My original search said 2,560. This latest search returns merely 172. Mea culpa. No worries, it's rumored that Judy's newest editions of How I Spent My Retirement Years: The Liar Emails, Decade I and Barry the LIAR for Dummies will both have appendices of the caustic molecular-acid level emails she only kept as drafts and never mailed. It'll make her last work Dishonest Chickensoup from Barry's Soul look like a walk in the park (or so is the rumor on Mother Divine I hear).
[FairfieldLife] Re: More examples of Barry's dishonesty and meanspiritedness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Judy returned 58 hours later, and made a total of 2,560 posts over the next three months. Knowing, blatant lie. Barry made up that number out of whole cloth. In fact, I made only about 100 posts over the next three months--way below my usual total--virtually all in response to attacks on and lies about me from Barry and a couple of others. I didn't participate in any substantive threads for months. All this is easily verifiable. Link to the Google Search Engine, searching for posts made by Judy between 6 Nov 2003 and 6 Feb 2003: Google's on a roll tonight, or I am. Here is the real link: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?lr=safe=offnum=10q=group%3Aalt.meditation.transcendental+author%3Ajstein%40panix.comsafe=offqt_s=Searchas_drrb=bas_mind=6as_minm=2as_miny=2004as_maxd=6as_maxm=11as_maxy=2003 or http://tinyurl.com/629oyw Or go to the Google Advanced Search option and enter your own parameters: author [EMAIL PROTECTED], on a.m.t., between 6 Nov 2003 and 6 Feb 2004. But the *real* thing to ask yourself is why Judy homed in on this rather than discussing what she actually wrote while stalking off of a.m.t. in a snit (for 58 hours)? Could it possibly be that she doesn't want to *deal* with what she wrote, in light of the things she's written lately, and posed as lately? Here it is again, in case you are curious: The odious comments of people like Delia and Shemp, long-time TMers, on social issues have seriously shaken my faith in TM's effectiveness. After many years of practicing TM--and capable of delivering detailed discourses on TM that demonstrate they know what it is--they're still happily paddling around in the fetid muck at the very bottom of the barrel of human values. Considering where they are now, consumed by hatred, incapable of empathy, oblivious to logic, what can they possibly have progressed *from*? I'm leaving the newsgroup. The rotten stench of Delia's and Shemp's presence here is simply too much for me to deal with. It's turning me into a hater, and that is not a good feeling. I have to pray they're in the minority, that they're some kind of awful throwback on the evolutionary scale, and that their kind will ultimately be weeded out. The continued existence of the human race on this planet depends on it.
