[FairfieldLife] Big Brother Obama: "Send Price Signals To Change Behavior"

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>  Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal 
> industry has been kept under wraps until this time.  
> 
> UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco 
> Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 
> interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to 
> bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can 
> read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words" 
> section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!

"...Crank up those heating prices. Make old and disabled people freeze
their asses to death...old people aren't entitled to expensive health
care procedures...Crank up those electric prices so they live in the
dark while they shiver...Make poor people buy those $8.00 epilepsy and
migraine triggering yellow-glowing light bulbs...The ones that are
mercury-toxic when they break. Whatever you do, don't let people know
that you...passed a law to phase out incandescent bulbs in the near
future to force people to use expensive toxic lighting. You took the
mercury out of thermometers and now you want to riddle people's homes
with even more of it...Your pictures are everywhere! Your face is
everywhere! Just like Saddam Hussein and North Korea's Dear Leader!
Just like Stalin! Just like Mussolini! Just like Hitler...Just like
Big Brother. Just ask Joe The Plumber..."
By Uppity Woman 11/2/08 Obama: "Send Some Price Signals To Change
Behavior" 

Video http://tinyurl.com/6efbgv "BIG BROTHER Obama wants Government
Price Signals to Change Your Behavior"

[FairfieldLife] Obama relatives should do this on the White House lawn instead!

[shempmcgurk]

Bull awaits Obama win in Kogelo villageBy NATION CorrespondentPosted
Saturday, November 1 2008 at 19:35

Senator Barrack Obama's relatives have congregated at Nyangoma
Kogelo village and will remain together until after Tuesday's US
presidential elections.

They have set aside a bull to slaughter in celebration should the
Illinois senator whose father was Kenyan win, according to family
spokesperson Mr Malik Abongo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This should secure the Pennsylvania and West Virginia vote for Barky

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Lol...Idiot republicans ACTUALLY   THINK this is bad for Obama !  
The
> coal industry is already doing what Obama suggested here. Even they 
are
> moving into greener technologies with zero emmissions plants. Its 
as if
> they are in lock step together in their vision for the future with
> Obama, and the people in those States are well aware of that.
> Its only idiots like you and the other republicans, that the coal
> industry has already left behind,  are still part of the old school
> dustbin of history.
> 
> OffWorld


I guess I'm an idiot along with RON PAUL, your hero!

Ha!

Here's what Paul has to say about coal:

What role do you think coal should play in America's energy future? 
"Coal is a source of energy, and it should be used, but it has to be 
used without ever hurting anybody. I think we're smart enough to do 
it. Technology is improving all the time. If oil goes to $150 a 
barrel because we've bombed Iran, coal might be something that we can 
become more independent with. I think technology is super, and we are 
capable of knowing how to use coal without polluting other people's 
property."

Paul is also against a carbon tax, so what Obama says about coal is 
in direct opposition to Paul's stance.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "shempmcgurk" 

> wrote:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/68oyz4 
> >
> >
> >
> > Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal 
Industry
> >
> >
> > By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)
> > November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET
> >
> > (Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting 
to
> > mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at 
bottom
> > of this blog.)
> > Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was 
willing to
> > bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately 
be
> > front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San
> > Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal
> > industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result?
> > Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the 
public...until
> > now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting
> > the coal industry (emphasis mine):
> >
> >  Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
> >
> > What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in 
place
> > that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's
> > out there.
> >
> > I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade
> > system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases
> > emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a 
market
> > in which whatever technologies are out there that are being
> > presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they
> > would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted 
down
> > caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
> >
> > So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's
> > just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be 
charged a
> > huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
> >
> > Story Continues Below Ad «
> >
> > That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in
> > solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
> >
> > The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some
> > coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the
> > table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if
> > technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue 
it.
> >
> > So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
> >
> > It's just that it will bankrupt them.
> >  Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal
> > industry has been kept under wraps until this time.
> >
> > UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San 
Francisco
> > Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17
> > interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to
> > bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You 
can
> > read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words"
> > section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[gullible fool]

As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
citizens who can't shoot for shit.
 
Massachusetts requires a course be taken. Don't think anyone cares if you're a 
terrible shot or not. 
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL 
Obama-bots get suckered.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:25 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Nelson wrote:
> 
> > Also, I meant we are lucky there were anti government gun nuts
> > back when as otherwise we would likely still be paying a gross
> > tax on tea.
> 
> Well, you'd be talking about my ancestors, who were founding
> fathers and mothers of this country. I was taught to use a gun
> at the age of eight, but there was never, ever anything even
> remotely nutty about it. It was about safety, respect and ethics.
> 
> Hopefully as neurological testing gets more precise, we'll simply
> be able to scan peoples brains non-invasively to see if they can't
> handle certain negative emotions or could snap and not let these
> types get guns or other weapons. Sort of like the TM Enlightenment
> Report Card, but for deadly weapons.

I was not raised around guns, and my dad would love to see the 2nd
Amendment repealed. I took riflery at summer camp, and I've remained a
pretty good shot with a rifle (although I'm a *serious* flincher with
larger caliber high-power rifles.)

I bought a 9mm semi-auto handgun for Y2K and shot no more than a box
or two of ammo through it. Earlier this year, I went to a firing range
with a friend and discovered how *really* bad I am with a handgun. I
couldn't hit a paper plate at 10 feet (part of the problem was the
factory sights, which were way off)... lotta good that'll do me in a
home invasion situation. So, I got rid of it. 

As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
citizens who can't shoot for shit. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dateline November 2012...

[okpeachman2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

bingo

> Er, ed11, this piece is a satire written by someone
> who definitely doesn't.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dateline November 2012...

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, okpeachman2000  
> wrote:
> >
> > It's hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking 
> about Barack Obama as a 
> > national savior, a secular redeemer, a "light worker." Even more 
> shocking, President 
> > Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than 
> Hillary Clinton. How did we 
> > get here?
> -snip-
> 
> actually, here on planet earth, in what we call the solar
> system, most of the population looks forward to barack
> hussein obama's two terms as president.

Er, ed11, this piece is a satire written by someone
who definitely doesn't.

Jonah Goldberg is an editor of the National Review
Online, the son of Lucianne Goldberg (whose name you
may recall from the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal).

It's one of three op-ed pieces in the New York Post
along the same lines, all "predictions" by right-
wingers of what an analysis of Obama's first four
years in office will look like.

You think this one is bad, check out the other two:

"OBAMA 2012: HIS TRIUMPHS ABROAD. OUR GREATEST FOREIGN
POLICY PRESIDENT?" by Ralph Peters

http://tinyurl.com/6fzkhh

"OBAMA 2012: A TERM OF FI$CAL PAIN" by NICOLE GELINAS

http://tinyurl.com/6c7cqu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dateline November 2012...

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, okpeachman2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> It's hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking 
about Barack Obama as a 
> national savior, a secular redeemer, a "light worker." Even more 
shocking, President 
> Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than 
Hillary Clinton. How did we 
> get here?
-snip-

actually, here on planet earth, in what we call the solar system, most 
of the population looks forward to barack hussein obama's two terms as 
president.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 8:24 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> 
> > what is wrong with being dead when we are dead? one moment i am
> > alive and the next i no longer exist ever again. perhaps my energy
> > just becomes photonic waves between here and some distant galaxy.
> > what's the problem?
> 
> Maybe you're an Annihilationist.

maybe you're a compulsive labeler, Mr. Vaj. it is a strange way to 
avoid my question. what if reincarnation is a scam?

[FairfieldLife] Dateline November 2012...

[okpeachman2000]

It's hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking about Barack 
Obama as a 
national savior, a secular redeemer, a "light worker." Even more shocking, 
President 
Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than Hillary Clinton. 
How did we 
get here?
There are no shortage of recriminatory theories for President Obama's 
precipitous fall 
from would-be messiah, to near pariah. Discussions with leaders within the 
Democratic 
Party, including prominent former members of the Obama administration, give a 
kaleidoscopic picture of missed opportunities, wrong turns and embarrassing 
blunders.
The first mistake many cite was actually made before Obama was even elected: 
the 
selection of Joseph Biden as his vice president. During the campaign, all eyes 
were on John 
McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. But even then there were 
signs of the 
troubles to come (ironically, Biden's biggest "gaffe" - about Obama being 
tested early in 
his presidency - proved eerily prescient).
Still, nothing prepared the country for some of former Vice President Biden's 
comments 
while in office. Early on, when he told the Russian foreign minister he'd 
"rather punch a 
nun in the throat" than cooperate on an Iranian nuclear deal, the Obama 
administration 
knew they had a problem on their hands.
The strange comments and behavior kept coming: at an international summit on 
child 
poverty, he accused the Dalai Lama of issuing a "brain fart," he phoned Supreme 
Court 
Chief Justice Roberts at home and called him a "[re]tard in short pants," and 
of course the 
several stories - clearly leaked by aides to the president - of Mr. Biden 
sitting in the 
president's chair in the Oval Office and being more than reluctant to get out 
when asked 
to do so by the president.
The last straw was Biden's complaint, emphatically offered at the White House 
Correspondents' Dinner, that he would have more influence over foreign policy 
if he were 
black. His staff's effort to dismiss the incident as a joke - at the normally 
comedic event - 
fell short largely because Biden shouted "I am not joking!" two dozens times in 
speech 
that lasted less than 10 minutes. The fact that Biden had not been invited to 
speak at the 
dinner in the first place only added to the controversy.
Ultimately, the embarrassment became too much and Mr. Biden became the first 
vice 
president to resign from office since Spiro Agnew.
The subsequent battle over Obama's replacement sapped his presidency of much of 
its 
energy. Indeed, many credit Hillary Clinton's decision to run against Obama to 
her anger at 
being passed over twice for the vice presidency. The failure of two of Obama's 
ostensibly 
bipartisan picks - New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and former Vermont Senator 
Jim 
Jeffords - because they were too "rightwing" only made him seem weak compared 
to the 
firebrand liberal 111th congress. Charges that the Obama presidency was really 
a Trojan 
Horse for a Pelosi prime ministership only grew louder when he was forced to 
accept 
Henry Waxman as his vice president.
Indeed, the overconfidence of Congressional Democrats posed another major 
challenge to 
the Obama presidency. During the 2008 election, Obama's conservative critics 
had long 
complained that the then-freshman senator had little to no record of standing 
up the 
leftwing base of his party in part, they argued, because he himself was much 
more 
leftwing than he had let on.
Whatever the truth of that, what is not contested is that the Congressional 
Progressive 
Caucus - the largest partisan bloc in the Congress when Mr. Obama was elected - 
believed that the new president was "one of us" according to many sources 
contacted for 
this article.
The CPC, colloquially known as the "big swinging caucus" after an unfortunate 
joke by 
then-Republican Minority Leader John Boehner after a scandal involving Rep. 
Barney Frank 
(see side story), pushed Barack Obama on a wide array of fronts: they demanded 
very large 
cuts in the military budget, a sweeping government expansion into the role of 
healthcare, 
and in a move that experts agree caused the Wall Street Panic of 2010, they 
persuaded Mr. 
Obama to make the government's partial ownership of the remaining "Big Five" 
banks 
permanent. Representatives Frank and Charlie Rangel argued that the stakes, 
bought by 
the Bush treasury department, in the banks provided, in Frank's words, a "once 
in a 
lifetime opportunity to inject some social justice into the capitalist system." 
Or as Senator 
Jesse Jackson Jr. said, "if we've got them by the b - - - s already, why let 
go?"
Americans also don't like it when White House press secretary Keith Olbermann 
tells them 
that complaining about higher taxes is "racist."
A general consensus among political observers is that Obama's essential problem 
was that 
he was oversold and too naive and arrogant to realize he wasn't as his most 
devoted fans 
believed. A senior Demo

[FairfieldLife] Office supply physics

[bob_brigante]

http://tinyurl.com/5h6v8q

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 8:24 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:

> what is wrong with being dead when we are dead? one moment i am
> alive and the next i no longer exist ever again. perhaps my energy
> just becomes photonic waves between here and some distant galaxy.
> what's the problem?

Maybe you're an Annihilationist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: This should secure the Pennsylvania and West Virginia vote for Barky

[off_world_beings]

Lol...Idiot republicans ACTUALLY   THINK this is bad for Obama !  The
coal industry is already doing what Obama suggested here. Even they are
moving into greener technologies with zero emmissions plants. Its as if
they are in lock step together in their vision for the future with
Obama, and the people in those States are well aware of that.
Its only idiots like you and the other republicans, that the coal
industry has already left behind,  are still part of the old school
dustbin of history.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/68oyz4 
>
>
>
> Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry
>
>
> By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)
> November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET
>
> (Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting to
> mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at bottom
> of this blog.)
> Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to
> bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be
> front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San
> Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal
> industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result?
> Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public...until
> now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting
> the coal industry (emphasis mine):
>
>  Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
>
> What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place
> that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's
> out there.
>
> I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade
> system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases
> emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market
> in which whatever technologies are out there that are being
> presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they
> would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down
> caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
>
> So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's
> just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a
> huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
>
> Story Continues Below Ad «
>
> That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in
> solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
>
> The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some
> coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the
> table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if
> technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
>
> So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
>
> It's just that it will bankrupt them.
>  Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal
> industry has been kept under wraps until this time.
>
> UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco
> Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17
> interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to
> bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can
> read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words"
> section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: $500 Billion Debt Last Month

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Data just came out that the govt went an additional $500 Billion in
> debt last month primarily for the Treasury Dept to bailout and take
> major ownership stakes in several major US corporations - this as a
> direct result result of Bush's tax, economic and deregulatory
> policies.  And it doesn't include the coming bailout of the auto
> industry.  All told, republican control of the white house under bush
> plus six yrs control of Congress have added $5.5 Trillion and still
> counting - that's with inheriting a budget surplus from Clinton.  
> 
> But let's move on, no socialism here, let's focus on obama wanting to
> give tax cuts to the middle class rather than the rich, now there's
> some big government socialism for ya, you betcha.
>

ONe neocon/ultra-conservative agenda has been, for years, to break the bank
of the federal government so it can never be giving handouts again. They've done
their best, I must say.


Lawson

[FairfieldLife] From the state that first brought you the beginning of the end of the Hillary campaign...

[Sal Sunshine]

"Barack Obama is beating John McCain in Iowa by a whopping 17  
percentage points, according to the Iowa Poll published in today's  
Register. Obama gets 54 percent of the vote, while McCain captures 37  
percent among likely voters, according to the survey." 11/3

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:35 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> 
> >> All believers in reincarnation know that God recycles.
> > Nonbelievers
> >> have Newton's third law to comfort them and the law of
> > conservation of
> >> energy.
> >>
> > what is god? dead is dead. poof-finito. reincarnation is another
> > scam perpetuated by organized religions like buddhism.
> 
> It's really just the conservation of energy in a closed 
multiverse.  
> Eventually, in some future time, the spiritual gene that's behind 
DNA  
> will be discovered.
>
what is wrong with being dead when we are dead? one moment i am 
alive and the next i no longer exist ever again. perhaps my energy 
just becomes photonic waves between here and some distant galaxy. 
what's the problem? 

[FairfieldLife] Jim Wallis' Politics of God and voting guide

[Dick Mays]

http://www.sojo.net/blog/godspolitics/?author=21
My Personal 'Faith Priorities' for this Election
by Jim Wallis
10-23-2008

In 2004, several conservative Catholic bishops and a few megachurch 
pastors like Rick Warren issued their list of "non-negotiables," 
which were intended to be a voter guide for their followers. All of 
them were relatively the same list of issues: abortion, gay marriage, 
stem cell research, etc. None of them even included the word 
"poverty," only one example of the missing issues which are found 
quite clearly in the Bible. All of them were also relatively the same 
as official Republican Party Web sites of "non-negotiables." The 
political connections and commitments of the religious non-negotiable 
writers were quite clear.


I want to suggest a different approach this year and share my 
personal list of "faith priorities" that will guide me in making the 
imperfect choices that always confront us in any election year - and 
suggest that each of you come up with your own list of "faith" or 
"moral" priorities for this election year and take them into the 
voting booth with you.


After the last election, I wrote a book titled God's Politics.  I was 
criticized by some for presuming to speak for God, but that wasn't 
the point.  I was trying to explore what issues might be closest to 
the heart of God and how they may be quite different from what many 
strident religious voices were then saying. I was also saying that 
"God's Politics" will often turn our partisan politics upside down, 
transcend our ideological categories of Left and Right, and challenge 
the core values and priorities of our political culture. I was also 
trying to say that there is certainly no easy jump from God's 
politics to either the Republicans or Democrats. God is neither. In 
any election, we face imperfect choices, but our choices should 
reflect the things we believe God cares about if we are people of 
faith, and our own moral sensibilities if we are not people of faith. 
Therefore, people of faith, and all of us, should be "values voters" 
but vote all our values, not just a few that can be easily 
manipulated for the benefit of one party or another.


In 2008, the kingdom of God is not on the ballot in any of the 50 
states as far as I can see. So we can't vote for that this year. But 
there are important choices in this year's election - very important 
choices - which will dramatically impact what many in the religious 
community and outside of it call "the common good," and the outcome 
could be very important, perhaps even more so than in many recent 
electoral contests.


I am in no position to tell anyone what is "non-negotiable," and 
neither is any bishop or megachurch pastor, but let me tell you the 
"faith priorities" and values I will be voting on this year:


1.With more than 2,000 verses in the Bible about how we treat the 
poor and oppressed, I will examine the record, plans, policies, and 
promises made by the candidates on what they will do to overcome the 
scandal of extreme global poverty and the shame of such unnecessary 
domestic poverty in the richest nation in the world. Such a central 
theme of the Bible simply cannot be ignored at election time, as too 
many Christians have done for years. And any solution to the economic 
crisis that simply bails out the rich, and even the middle class, but 
ignores those at the bottom should simply be unacceptable to people 
of faith.


2.From the biblical prophets to Jesus, there is, at least, a 
biblical presumption against war and the hope of beating our swords 
into instruments of peace. So I will choose the candidates who will 
be least likely to lead us into more disastrous wars and find better 
ways to resolve the inevitable conflicts in the world and make us all 
safer. I will choose the candidates who seem to best understand that 
our security depends upon other people's security (everyone having 
"their own vine and fig tree, so no one can make them afraid," as the 
prophets say) more than upon how high we can build walls or a 
stockpile of weapons. Christians should never expect a pacifist 
president, but we can insist on one who views military force only as 
a very last resort, when all other diplomatic and economic measures 
have failed, and never as a preferred or habitual response to 
conflict.


3."Choosing life" is a constant biblical theme, so I will choose 
candidates who have the most consistent ethic of life, addressing all 
the threats to human life and dignity that we face - not just one. 
Thirty-thousand children dying globally each day of preventable 
hunger and disease is a life issue. The genocide in Darfur is a life 
issue. Health care is a life issue. War is a life issue. The death 
penalty is a life issue. And on abortion, I will choose candidates 
who have the best chance to pursue the practical and proven policies 
which could dramatically reduce the number of abortions in America 
and therefor

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Twin Tow...er...Bro did it! ; D

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>

<>

Wot?

... it looks like he's maybe got some French, Greek or Spanish blood in
him, His name is "Hamilton" which is a Scottish name, and he is driving
for "McClaren", which is also a Scottish  name. And it looks like he was
born in Wales.
What is your post about?

OffWorld


>
> Good news for Barack Hussein?
>
>
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02112008/58/hamilton-wins-formula-crown.ht\
ml

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[FairfieldLife] $500 Billion Debt Last Month

[boo_lives]

Data just came out that the govt went an additional $500 Billion in
debt last month primarily for the Treasury Dept to bailout and take
major ownership stakes in several major US corporations - this as a
direct result result of Bush's tax, economic and deregulatory
policies.  And it doesn't include the coming bailout of the auto
industry.  All told, republican control of the white house under bush
plus six yrs control of Congress have added $5.5 Trillion and still
counting - that's with inheriting a budget surplus from Clinton.  

But let's move on, no socialism here, let's focus on obama wanting to
give tax cuts to the middle class rather than the rich, now there's
some big government socialism for ya, you betcha.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY taught *The Supreme Doctrine* for modernity!

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:48 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:


I've always found it best to have someone who holds the "long"
transmission, the original line from the historical and gnostic

source

of a teaching and the "close" transmission, someone who awakened

that

transmission recently in their own lives through meaningful

contact

with modern realizers of a given teaching. These have been my

criteria

and they've yet to fail me.


whatever keeps you on, and on, and on, and on, the path, eh? can't
ever have enough of that path...



No, not at all. It's how to make sure it doesn't get "lost" so the  
path doesn't vanish for future sentient beings. This is just one of  
the mechanics of maintaining that for the future. Then there can be a  
lot of advantage across time, not just in a time or a place.


I prefer pathless paths myself. :-)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:35 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:

>> All believers in reincarnation know that God recycles.
> Nonbelievers
>> have Newton's third law to comfort them and the law of
> conservation of
>> energy.
>>
> what is god? dead is dead. poof-finito. reincarnation is another
> scam perpetuated by organized religions like buddhism.

It's really just the conservation of energy in a closed multiverse.  
Eventually, in some future time, the spiritual gene that's behind DNA  
will be discovered. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Nelson wrote:


 ++ On the chart that could compare firearms fatalities with
automobile related ones, would the former even show up?  maybe there
should be a ban car group?



I think the Mothers Against Drunk Drivers group and the technological  
advancements in air bags must've helped tremendously. Eventually many  
cars will have built in sensors that allow a car to calculate a path  
that avoids collision or maybe even some sort of protective "shield".  
In any event, car safety will continue to improve.


Gun safety, esp. since it's a horrendous problem in the US, should  
look to nations with few gun problems and at least get some concrete  
plans. Otherwise you'll have to deal with increasing bans, weapon  
fingerprinting, bullet serial numbers, mandatory built in safety  
locks, etc. The best way would be to invest in new, non-lethal  
technologies that really work. I find my split pea shotgun shells,  
which are completely non-organic, to be an easy solution for me. After  
all, it would be morally bankrupt for any person claiming to be  
Christian (Jew, Moslem, Hindu or Buddhist) to claim to exercise the  
law "thou shalt not kill" or "do not kill" and not really care. If  
you're not keeping that tenet, you're really not a very good Christian  
(Jew, Moslem, Hindu or Buddhist) now are you? (I realize protecting  
oneself and perhaps saving oneself are exceptions, where ones life is  
threatened, even in Buddhism) Non-lethal weapons would definitely be  
the higher moral ground since they can protect a person, but they're  
not, by design, made to kill people. I'd like to begin to see people  
claiming to be Judaeo-Christians and Hindus, etc. regain their moral  
ground. Some of the greatest abusers hide behind the cross, although  
certainly a Jew named Jesus of Nazareth couldn't have condoned it. He  
who lives by the handgun, dies by the handgun.


And as a therapist friend once said "Show me a middle-aged man  
obsessed with guns, and I'll show you a man with penis problems..."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heidi Klum goes goddess on our asses

[gullible fool]

 
Scariest costume I've ever seen, but still less upsetting than the Ahnold pic.
 
Still want to date her, guys?
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Heidi Klum goes goddess on our asses
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:13 AM

For enlightened_dawn, who mentioned her here
recently, Heidi Klum's Halloween costume:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2mhy2a1.jpg

A veritable GILF.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj supports TM!

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:33 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[snip]


I refuse to own a hand gun since a handgun is ostensibly for killing
another person. Therefore I wouldn't own one on moral grounds.

That's

the way it was with most of my family, many refused to own handguns.
Having said that, I live in a state with very little violent crime
outside of family squabbles and drunks, although parts of Portland

are

becoming more dangerous and I have had some close calls. If

eventually

I felt I needed a weapon for protection of my life, I'd favor some
modern non-lethal weapon. I'm hoping for something like a portable
Maser or a device that would alter brain wave activity.


[snip]

You mean like TM!



TM's not a gun Shemp!

No, if someone asks me about meditation and says they really want to  
learn a Hindu style of meditation, TM is not the style of meditation I  
recommend any longer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:04 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > 
> > > Curtis, you are sounding very un-Obama-ish and very Bush-like 
> with
> > > all this talk about guns and coming out ablazing if you find your
> > > life is in danger.
> > >
> > > May I suggest that instead of violence that you consider 
> whipping out
> > > your mouthharp and performing a sweet little ditty for the crack-
> head
> > > who is hellbent upon cracking open YOUR head?
> > >
> > > Sure, you may spill a pint or two of the red stuff instead of 
> your
> > > interlocker's...but you'll rest comfortably in your hospital bed
> > > knowing that you didn't lift a finger in violence against your 
> fellow
> > > man.
> > >
> > > What would the Dalai Lama and Barky Hussein think of your 
> willingness
> > > to do harm to your fellow incarnations of God?
> > 
> > 
> > All believers in reincarnation know that God recycles. 
> Nonbelievers  
> > have Newton's third law to comfort them and the law of 
> conservation of  
> > energy.
> >
> what is god? dead is dead. poof-finito. reincarnation is another 
> scam perpetuated by organized religions like buddhism.
>
++ Really?  Give it a little time and, with a little more
enlightenment, it will become obvious.  N.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > 
> > > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I 
suggested
> > > that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong 
as the
> > > regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good 
idea?"
> > >
> > > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all
> > > opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> > >
> > > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN 
PARAMILITARY
> > 
> > Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary. You might want 
to  
> > listen to it again. And it's way too brief to hear the context. 
Since  
> > there are no other references, it's hard to know if this quote 
from  
> > months ago actually represents the current policy stand of 
future  
> > President Obama.
> > 
> > More people are killed EVERY YEAR by guns than in all the Iraq 
wars! I  
> > look forward to working together with my representatives, the  
> > democratic senate and President Barack Hussein Obama to force 
new,  
> > stricter gun laws. Together we can stop the slaughter from gun 
nuts. I  
> > think this would be a good use for the secret prisons of the Bush-
 
> > Cheney fascist regime!
> >
>   ++ On the chart that could compare firearms fatalities with
> automobile related ones, would the former even show up?  maybe there
> should be a ban car group?
>


Or how about the reported 650,000 unnecessary deaths each year 
resulting from negligence or improper treatment by AMA-certified 
medical doctors in this country?  

Maybe we should ban doctors...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> 
> > I was not raised around guns, and my dad would love to see the 2nd
> > Amendment repealed. I took riflery at summer camp, and I've remained a
> > pretty good shot with a rifle (although I'm a *serious* flincher with
> > larger caliber high-power rifles.)
> >
> > I bought a 9mm semi-auto handgun for Y2K and shot no more than a box
> > or two of ammo through it. Earlier this year, I went to a firing range
> > with a friend and discovered how *really* bad I am with a handgun. I
> > couldn't hit a paper plate at 10 feet (part of the problem was the
> > factory sights, which were way off)... lotta good that'll do me in a
> > home invasion situation. So, I got rid of it.
> >
> > As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
> > carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
> > shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
> > handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
> > citizens who can't shoot for shit.
> 
> 
> I refuse to own a hand gun since a handgun is ostensibly for killing  
> another person. Therefore I wouldn't own one on moral grounds. That's  
> the way it was with most of my family, many refused to own handguns.  
> Having said that, I live in a state with very little violent crime  
> outside of family squabbles and drunks, although parts of Portland are  
> becoming more dangerous and I have had some close calls. If eventually  
> I felt I needed a weapon for protection of my life, I'd favor some  
> modern non-lethal weapon. I'm hoping for something like a portable  
> Maser or a device that would alter brain wave activity.
> 
> The only reason I even keep a shotgun is for the packs of coyotes that  
> have moved into my area. About 8 of the buggers killed and eviscerated  
> one of my pets (Boo Boo, a black Maine Coon cat) on the front lawn. If  
> you've ever heard the death cry of a pack of coyotes or wolves, even  
> at a distance, it's not the type of thing you're likely to forget in  
> this lifetime. When you hear it being done to someone you loved, it  
> changes how you see the world real quick.

The cure is worse than the disease

In a pattern that's repeated itself in Canada and Australia, violent
crime has continued to go up in Great Britain despite a complete ban
on handguns, most rifles and many shotguns. The broad ban that went
into effect in 1997 was trumpeted by the British government as a cure
for violent crime. The cure has proven to be much worse than the disease.

Crime rates in England have skyrocketed since the ban was enacted.
According to economist John Lott of the American Enterprise Institute,
the violent crime rate has risen 69 percent since 1996, with robbery
rising 45 percent and murders rising 54 percent. This is even more
alarming when you consider that from 1993 to 1997 armed robberies had
fallen by 50 percent. Recent information released by the British Home
Office shows that trend is continuing.

Reports released in October 2004 indicate that during the second
quarter of 2004, violent crime rose 11 percent; violence against
persons rose 14 percent.

The British experience is further proof that gun bans don't reduce
crime and, in fact, may increase it. The gun ban creates ready victims
for criminals, denying law-abiding people the opportunity to defend
themselves. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested
> > that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the
> > regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
> >
> > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all
> > opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> >
> > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY
> 
> Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary. You might want to  
> listen to it again. And it's way too brief to hear the context. Since  
> there are no other references, it's hard to know if this quote from  
> months ago actually represents the current policy stand of future  
> President Obama.
> 
> More people are killed EVERY YEAR by guns than in all the Iraq wars! I  
> look forward to working together with my representatives, the  
> democratic senate and President Barack Hussein Obama to force new,  
> stricter gun laws. Together we can stop the slaughter from gun nuts. I  
> think this would be a good use for the secret prisons of the Bush- 
> Cheney fascist regime!
>
  ++ On the chart that could compare firearms fatalities with
automobile related ones, would the former even show up?  maybe there
should be a ban car group?
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY taught *The Supreme Doctrine* for modernity!

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:52 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > If they're anything like the other texts you have cited, they 
are no  
> > doubt
> > grossly misinterpreted by yourself and the people who taught you.
> 
> 
> I've always found it best to have someone who holds the "long"  
> transmission, the original line from the historical and gnostic 
source  
> of a teaching and the "close" transmission, someone who awakened 
that  
> transmission recently in their own lives through meaningful 
contact  
> with modern realizers of a given teaching. These have been my 
criteria  
> and they've yet to fail me.
>
whatever keeps you on, and on, and on, and on, the path, eh? can't 
ever have enough of that path...

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:04 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > Curtis, you are sounding very un-Obama-ish and very Bush-like 
with
> > all this talk about guns and coming out ablazing if you find your
> > life is in danger.
> >
> > May I suggest that instead of violence that you consider 
whipping out
> > your mouthharp and performing a sweet little ditty for the crack-
head
> > who is hellbent upon cracking open YOUR head?
> >
> > Sure, you may spill a pint or two of the red stuff instead of 
your
> > interlocker's...but you'll rest comfortably in your hospital bed
> > knowing that you didn't lift a finger in violence against your 
fellow
> > man.
> >
> > What would the Dalai Lama and Barky Hussein think of your 
willingness
> > to do harm to your fellow incarnations of God?
> 
> 
> All believers in reincarnation know that God recycles. 
Nonbelievers  
> have Newton's third law to comfort them and the law of 
conservation of  
> energy.
>
what is god? dead is dead. poof-finito. reincarnation is another 
scam perpetuated by organized religions like buddhism.

[FairfieldLife] Vaj supports TM!

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[snip]

> I refuse to own a hand gun since a handgun is ostensibly for killing  
> another person. Therefore I wouldn't own one on moral grounds. 
That's  
> the way it was with most of my family, many refused to own handguns.  
> Having said that, I live in a state with very little violent crime  
> outside of family squabbles and drunks, although parts of Portland 
are  
> becoming more dangerous and I have had some close calls. If 
eventually  
> I felt I needed a weapon for protection of my life, I'd favor some  
> modern non-lethal weapon. I'm hoping for something like a portable  
> Maser or a device that would alter brain wave activity.

[snip]

You mean like TM!

[FairfieldLife] "Twin Tow...er...Bro did it! ; D

[cardemaister]

Good news for Barack Hussein?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02112008/58/hamilton-wins-formula-crown.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[snip]


> 
> It didn't include the word "military," Shemp. And
> "force" is a neutral term, as in "labor force."


Yes, it did:

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve
the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a
civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as
strong, just as well-funded."

PLUS, he has the word "security" in there to qualify exactly what 
kind of "force" he was referring to.  He didn't say "Social Security 
Force", Judy, nor did he say "Health Security Force".

Bad choice of words on his part.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who wants to see my non-alcoholic beer bottle collection?

[bob_brigante]

"Nonalcoholic" beverages still contain some alcohol, because it's 
difficult and prohibitively expensive to get every single bit of it 
out. In order to be called nonalcoholic under federal laws, a beverage 
can contain up to half a percent of alcohol by volume. (Something with 
no alcohol at all is called alcohol-free.) So people who are forbidden 
to drink alcohol, like devout Muslims, can't partake in so-called 
nonalcoholic beer and wine. Nor can people under the age of 21, 
according to the law. It takes about 10 nonalcoholic malt beverages to 
equal the alcohol in one American-style lager, says George Reisch, a 
veteran brewer with Anheuser-Busch and the former brewmaster of 
O'Doul's. http://www.chow.com/stories/10519

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Here's a transcript from the entire 20-second youtube clip:
> 
> "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order
> to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.
> We've got to have a civilian national security force that's
> just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Right. He's just expanded the notion of "national
security" to include civilian objectives like
housing, food, education, jobs, environment, etc.,
etc. If you listen to what comes before, you'll
get the context.

Remember this was a July 4 speech, when often the
emphasis is on our military strength. He was
putting a bit of a twist on that and saying military
strength alone won't make us secure as a nation.

He started out by citing 9/11 and how we were 
feeling all patriotic and ready to sacrifice and
serve to help the country, but Bush never asked us to
do anything but shop, so all that positive energy
was for naught. He wants to revive that patriotism
and use it for community service in groups like
AmeriCorps.

(Ironically, he touted FDR and the WPA, not knowing
then how badly WPA-like projects are going to be
needed to help the economy recover.)

[FairfieldLife] SNL Presidential Bash

[I am the eternal]

Just to remind y'all about MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3 – "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE
PRESIDENTIAL BASH 2008" AIRS AT 9:30 PM NY Time



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[curtisdeltablues]

Brilliant!



> 
> INT. APARTMENT - DAY70.
> 
> The bathroom door BURSTS OPEN and the Fourth Man CHARGES out,
> silver Magnum raised, FIRING SIX BOOMING SHOTS from his hand
> cannon.
> 
>   FOURTH MAN
>Die...die...die...die...!
> 
> DOLLY INTO Fourth Man, same as before.
> 
> He SCREAM until he's dry firing.  Then a look of confusion
> crosses his face.
> 
> TWO SHOT - JULES AND VINCENT
> 
> standing next to each other, unharmed.  Amazing as it seems,
> none of the Fourth Man's shots appear to have hit anybody.
> Jules and Vincent exchange looks like, "Are we hit?"  They're
> as confused at the shooter.  After looking at each other, they
> bring their looks up to the Fourth Man.
> 
>   FOURTH MAN
>I don't understand --
> 
> The Fourth Man is taken out of the scenario by the two men's
> bullets who, unlike his, HIT their marks.  He drops DEAD.
> 
> The two men lower their guns.  Jules, obviously shaken, sits
> down in a chair.  Vincent, after a moment of respect, shrugs
> it off.  Then heads toward Marvin in the corner.
> 
> 
>   VINCENT
>Why the fuck didn't you tell us
>about that guy in the bathroom?
>Slip your mind?  Forget he was in
>there with a goddamn hand cannon?
> 
>   JULES
> (to himself)
>We should be fuckin' dead right
>now.
> (pause)
>Did you see that gun he fired at
>us?  It was bigger than him.
> 
>   VINCENT
>.357.
> 
>   JULES
>We should be fuckin' dead!
> 
>   VINCENT
>Yeah, we were lucky.
> 
> Jules rises, moving toward Vincent.
> 
>   JULES
>That shit wasn't luck.  That shit
>was somethin' else.
> 
> Vincent prepares to leave.
> 
>   VINCENT
>Yeah, maybe.
> 
>   JULES
>That was...divine intervention.
>You know what divine intervention
>is?
> 
>   VINCENT
>Yeah, I think so.  That means God
>came down from Heaven and stopped
>the bullets.
> 
>   JULES
>Yeah, man, that's what is means.
>That's exactly what it means!  God
>came down from Heaven and stopped
>the bullets.
> 
>   VINCENT
>I think we should be going now.
> 
>   JULES
>Don't do that!  Don't you fuckin'
>do that!  Don't blow this shit off!
>What just happened was a fuckin'
>miracle!
> 
>   VINCENT
>Chill the fuck out, Jules, this
>shit happens.
> 
>   JULES
>Wrong, wrong, this shit doesn't
>just happen.
> 
>   VINCENT
>Do you wanna continue this
>theological discussion in the car,
>or at the jailhouse with the cops?
> 
>   JULES
>We should be fuckin' dead now, my
>friend!  We just witnessed a
>miracle, and I want you to fuckin'
>acknowledge it!
> 
>   VINCENT
>Okay man, it was a miracle, can we
>leave now?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

> I was not raised around guns, and my dad would love to see the 2nd
> Amendment repealed. I took riflery at summer camp, and I've remained a
> pretty good shot with a rifle (although I'm a *serious* flincher with
> larger caliber high-power rifles.)
>
> I bought a 9mm semi-auto handgun for Y2K and shot no more than a box
> or two of ammo through it. Earlier this year, I went to a firing range
> with a friend and discovered how *really* bad I am with a handgun. I
> couldn't hit a paper plate at 10 feet (part of the problem was the
> factory sights, which were way off)... lotta good that'll do me in a
> home invasion situation. So, I got rid of it.
>
> As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
> carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
> shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
> handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
> citizens who can't shoot for shit.


I refuse to own a hand gun since a handgun is ostensibly for killing  
another person. Therefore I wouldn't own one on moral grounds. That's  
the way it was with most of my family, many refused to own handguns.  
Having said that, I live in a state with very little violent crime  
outside of family squabbles and drunks, although parts of Portland are  
becoming more dangerous and I have had some close calls. If eventually  
I felt I needed a weapon for protection of my life, I'd favor some  
modern non-lethal weapon. I'm hoping for something like a portable  
Maser or a device that would alter brain wave activity.

The only reason I even keep a shotgun is for the packs of coyotes that  
have moved into my area. About 8 of the buggers killed and eviscerated  
one of my pets (Boo Boo, a black Maine Coon cat) on the front lawn. If  
you've ever heard the death cry of a pack of coyotes or wolves, even  
at a distance, it's not the type of thing you're likely to forget in  
this lifetime. When you hear it being done to someone you loved, it  
changes how you see the world real quick.

[FairfieldLife] Re: obama's love child

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know how shemp could have missed this one:
> http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/this_is_the_gamechanger/
> 
> This Is The Gamechanger
> 

LOL! Repugs seem to be REEEAY desperate... ;D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> When he gives his list of what he'd like this force to do,
> Judy, no where does he say that this is an exclusive list.
> Indeed, those activities he mentioned are only given as 
> examples...if he meant it to be an exhaustive list or to NOT 
> include activities that included actual military-type force,
> he could have stated that...

He could have, but he most likely didn't think
anybody would be stupid enough to understand him
to be talking about a paramilitary force.

especially in 
> light of the fact that he chose to employ such a loaded
> "metaphor", as you put it, that included words such as
> "force" and "military".

It didn't include the word "military," Shemp. And
"force" is a neutral term, as in "labor force."

He meant it as a *parallel*: we have a military force
to serve our military needs, and he'll establish a
civilian force (composed of many different groups doing
different things) to serve our nonmilitary needs.

His point was, of course, that the civilian force should
be just as strong and well-funded as the military is--
that our national security is served just as much by
fulfilling our nonmilitary needs as it is by a fighting
force.


> By the way, the non-military activities that he listed makes this 
> civilian force sound like an even scarier concept than a military 
> force!  It sounds like what the Hitler Youth were recruited to 
> do...or the Young Communists in Cuba and the old Soviet Union.

Don't worry, most of it's bullshit anyway.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
> > carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate
> competent> shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals 
out
> there with> handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed
> law abiding> citizens who can't shoot for shit.
> 
> In VA you have to pass a safety test like the one the NRA offers.
> 
> But in a life threatening situation we would all suck at shooting a
> real person I suspect. Cops regularly miss people they are trying to
> shoot right in front of them.


INT. APARTMENT - DAY70.

The bathroom door BURSTS OPEN and the Fourth Man CHARGES out,
silver Magnum raised, FIRING SIX BOOMING SHOTS from his hand
cannon.

  FOURTH MAN
   Die...die...die...die...!

DOLLY INTO Fourth Man, same as before.

He SCREAM until he's dry firing.  Then a look of confusion
crosses his face.

TWO SHOT - JULES AND VINCENT

standing next to each other, unharmed.  Amazing as it seems,
none of the Fourth Man's shots appear to have hit anybody.
Jules and Vincent exchange looks like, "Are we hit?"  They're
as confused at the shooter.  After looking at each other, they
bring their looks up to the Fourth Man.

  FOURTH MAN
   I don't understand --

The Fourth Man is taken out of the scenario by the two men's
bullets who, unlike his, HIT their marks.  He drops DEAD.

The two men lower their guns.  Jules, obviously shaken, sits
down in a chair.  Vincent, after a moment of respect, shrugs
it off.  Then heads toward Marvin in the corner.


  VINCENT
   Why the fuck didn't you tell us
   about that guy in the bathroom?
   Slip your mind?  Forget he was in
   there with a goddamn hand cannon?

  JULES
(to himself)
   We should be fuckin' dead right
   now.
(pause)
   Did you see that gun he fired at
   us?  It was bigger than him.

  VINCENT
   .357.

  JULES
   We should be fuckin' dead!

  VINCENT
   Yeah, we were lucky.

Jules rises, moving toward Vincent.

  JULES
   That shit wasn't luck.  That shit
   was somethin' else.

Vincent prepares to leave.

  VINCENT
   Yeah, maybe.

  JULES
   That was...divine intervention.
   You know what divine intervention
   is?

  VINCENT
   Yeah, I think so.  That means God
   came down from Heaven and stopped
   the bullets.

  JULES
   Yeah, man, that's what is means.
   That's exactly what it means!  God
   came down from Heaven and stopped
   the bullets.

  VINCENT
   I think we should be going now.

  JULES
   Don't do that!  Don't you fuckin'
   do that!  Don't blow this shit off!
   What just happened was a fuckin'
   miracle!

  VINCENT
   Chill the fuck out, Jules, this
   shit happens.

  JULES
   Wrong, wrong, this shit doesn't
   just happen.

  VINCENT
   Do you wanna continue this
   theological discussion in the car,
   or at the jailhouse with the cops?

  JULES
   We should be fuckin' dead now, my
   friend!  We just witnessed a
   miracle, and I want you to fuckin'
   acknowledge it!

  VINCENT
   Okay man, it was a miracle, can we
   leave now?

[FairfieldLife] This should secure the Pennsylvania and West Virginia vote for Barky

[shempmcgurk]

http://tinyurl.com/68oyz4



Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry


By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)
November 2, 2008 - 07:26 ET  

(Please read update about the San Francisco Chronicle neglecting to 
mention Obama's willingness to bankrupt the coal industry at bottom 
of this blog.)
Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to 
bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be 
front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San 
Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal 
industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? 
Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public...until 
now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting 
the coal industry (emphasis mine):

 Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place 
that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's 
out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade 
system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases 
emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market 
in which whatever technologies are out there that are being 
presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they 
would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down 
caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's 
just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a 
huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

Story Continues Below Ad «

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in 
solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some 
coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the 
table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if 
technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them.
 Amazing that this statement by Obama about bankrupting the coal 
industry has been kept under wraps until this time.  

UPDATE: NewsBusters' Tom Blumer has found out that the San Francisco 
Chronicle story published on January 18 based upon this January 17 
interview did not include any mention of Obama's willingness to 
bankrupt the coal industry which you can hear on the audio. You can 
read the story here when you scroll down to the "In His Own Words" 
section. Way to cover up for The One, SF Chronicle! 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[curtisdeltablues]

> As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
> carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate
competent> shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out
there with> handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed
law abiding> citizens who can't shoot for shit.

In VA you have to pass a safety test like the one the NRA offers.

But in a life threatening situation we would all suck at shooting a
real person I suspect. Cops regularly miss people they are trying to
shoot right in front of them.  




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Nelson wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, I meant we are lucky there were anti government gun nuts
> > > back when as otherwise we would likely still be paying a gross
> > > tax on tea.
> > 
> > Well, you'd be talking about my ancestors, who were founding
> > fathers and mothers of this country. I was taught to use a gun
> > at the age of eight, but there was never, ever anything even
> > remotely nutty about it. It was about safety, respect and ethics.
> > 
> > Hopefully as neurological testing gets more precise, we'll simply
> > be able to scan peoples brains non-invasively to see if they can't
> > handle certain negative emotions or could snap and not let these
> > types get guns or other weapons. Sort of like the TM Enlightenment
> > Report Card, but for deadly weapons.
> 
> I was not raised around guns, and my dad would love to see the 2nd
> Amendment repealed. I took riflery at summer camp, and I've remained a
> pretty good shot with a rifle (although I'm a *serious* flincher with
> larger caliber high-power rifles.)
> 
> I bought a 9mm semi-auto handgun for Y2K and shot no more than a box
> or two of ammo through it. Earlier this year, I went to a firing range
> with a friend and discovered how *really* bad I am with a handgun. I
> couldn't hit a paper plate at 10 feet (part of the problem was the
> factory sights, which were way off)... lotta good that'll do me in a
> home invasion situation. So, I got rid of it. 
> 
> As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
> carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
> shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
> handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
> citizens who can't shoot for shit.
>

[FairfieldLife] Who wants to see my non-alcoholic beer bottle collection?

[shempmcgurk]

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Curtis, you are sounding very un-Obama-ish and very Bush-like

Actually I think Obama probably spent more time in neighborhoods like
the one I live in than Bush. He probably knows how to handle himself
with the homies.


> 
> May I suggest that instead of violence that you consider whipping
out > your mouthharp and performing a sweet little ditty for the
crack-head > who is hellbent upon cracking open YOUR head?

Are you the marketing rep for "Bad idea Jeans?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2YWVW4gzE

> Sure, you may spill a pint or two of the red stuff instead of your 
> interlocker's...but you'll rest comfortably in your hospital bed 
> knowing that you didn't lift a finger in violence against your
fellow > man.

I'll send him a card in the hospital while I am at home comfortably
playing guitar. He can try to navigate our inadequate health care system. 

> 
> What would the Dalai Lama and Barky Hussein think of your
willingness > to do harm to your fellow incarnations of God?

I guess a guy like the Dalai Lama would understand that I am sending
Asuras on to their next stage of evolution in my divine service to Big
Daddy Yama Obama. (Our next prez.)




> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > That's interesting.  Did you load the shells yourself?  I've got a
> > type of shell (Glaser safety slugs) for my Walther that wont go
> > through my apartment walls.  But they are designed to be very, very
> > bad for the person they hit.
> > 
> > The only way I could imagine using it is if I hear someone in my
> > apartment on the other side of my locked bedroom door. (the most
> > important home safety tip I know after replacing the screws on the
> > door plate with 2" ones so that  they get into the stud behind the
> > door frame).  I figure if someone is in my home knowing I am there,
> > all bets are off and I gotta come out blazing if they kick through 
> my
> > bedroom door. 
> > 
> > The chances of someone busting a move on my way to or from my car is
> > much higher I bet, so that is where I try to focus my attention. 
> > Right now I have a kubaton key chain so I am always holding it.  I
> > might replace it with an extendable metal baton.  That is a 
> realistic
> > thing to always have with me.  I doubt I can carry  one of the much
> > larger stun batons around all the time. OF course when my hands are
> > all full of musical geer I am looking pretty "Vic!" (The term 
> muggers
> > in DC use for an easy mark.)
> > 
> > Meanwhile I drive around the Beltway in Washington which is the real
> > menace for my life!  I would rather get shot by a gun than get in a
> > car wreck. 
> > 
> > My buddy whose nephew did some time in the joint recently said that
> > the street phrase for getting shot is "gett'n your zipper" from the
> > way the scar looks.  And one popular thug word for gun is "hammer." 
> > Prisons are full of guys who are in jail for what they call a "flav
> > and hammer charge", selling crack and carrying a weapon.  Just a few
> > useful terms to use when writing your next crime novel!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > > 
> > > > My GF just got a wicked stun baton because she was bitten by a 
> dog
> > > > while roller blading.  That might be a useful thing to have 
> since I
> > > > doubt my ability to pull the trigger of a gun on another 
> person.  Even
> > > > trained cops and solders have trouble with this.  So a 
> telescoping
> > > > stun baton might be a more realistic self defense weapon to 
> carry.
> > > >
> > > > Heyum Dukam Anagitam...ZZPPP!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I'd like to see more non-lethal weapons replace handguns. I 
> want  
> > > a Star Trek style Phaser I can set on stun or whatever is 
> necessary.  
> > > Right now I just keep a shotgun with shells loaded with split 
> peas.  
> > > Works for me...and no one will ever deliberately get killed by my 
> hand!
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > 
> > > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia",
> > > I suggested that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is
> > > just as strong as the regular military" and asked: "Doesn't
> > that sound like a good idea?"
> > >
> > > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're
> > > all opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> > >
> > > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN 
> > > PARAMILITARY
> > 
> > Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary.
> 
> Correct. His term was "civilian national security
> force."
> 
> > You might want to listen to it again. And it's way too brief
> > to hear the context. Since there are no other references,
> > it's hard to know if this quote from months ago actually
> > represents the current policy stand of future President Obama.
> 
> There's nothing to that effect on his Web site.
> 
> (Although it's interesting that it doesn't seem to
> bother Vaj that Obama could have made a proposal in
> a speech in July that somehow no longer represents
> his his policy stand in October, only four months
> later.)
> 
> Actually, in context, the snippet in the clip Shemp
> cited is a reference back to a whole long laundry list
> of service-type opportunities (paid and volunteer)
> he'd just described that he plans to institute, none
> of them military in nature, but which he views as
> essential to national security (health care, 
> education, infrastructure, housing, environmental
> cleanup, veteran support, foreign service, etc.).
> 
> By "civilian national security force," he meant all
> those different service activities taken as a whole,
> not a single formalized force, and certainly not a
> "paramilitary" force. It was, um, something of a
> metaphor.
> 
> In other words, it's Shemp who has been suckered (or
> who is trying to sucker us).
> 
> The whole speech is here; the relevant part starts
> at around 16 minutes in:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw
>


I've listened to it from about 2 minutes before the 16 minute mark to 
the 17:00 mark, Judy.

When he gives his list of what he'd like this force to do, Judy, no 
where does he say that this is an exclusive list.  Indeed, those 
activities he mentioned are only given as examples...if he meant it 
to be an exhaustive list or to NOT include activities that included 
actual military-type force, he could have stated that...especially in 
light of the fact that he chose to employ such a loaded "metaphor", 
as you put it, that included words such as "force" and "military".

So, in that light, I most definitely and fairly conclude that 
military force is part and parcel of what this civilian force of his 
could very well entail.

By the way, the non-military activities that he listed makes this 
civilian force sound like an even scarier concept than a military 
force!  It sounds like what the Hitler Youth were recruited to 
do...or the Young Communists in Cuba and the old Soviet Union.

Thank you for pointing out the FULL context...it's even worse than I 
originally thought!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Nelson wrote:
> 
> > Also, I meant we are lucky there were anti government gun nuts
> > back when as otherwise we would likely still be paying a gross
> > tax on tea.
> 
> Well, you'd be talking about my ancestors, who were founding
> fathers and mothers of this country. I was taught to use a gun
> at the age of eight, but there was never, ever anything even
> remotely nutty about it. It was about safety, respect and ethics.
> 
> Hopefully as neurological testing gets more precise, we'll simply
> be able to scan peoples brains non-invasively to see if they can't
> handle certain negative emotions or could snap and not let these
> types get guns or other weapons. Sort of like the TM Enlightenment
> Report Card, but for deadly weapons.

I was not raised around guns, and my dad would love to see the 2nd
Amendment repealed. I took riflery at summer camp, and I've remained a
pretty good shot with a rifle (although I'm a *serious* flincher with
larger caliber high-power rifles.)

I bought a 9mm semi-auto handgun for Y2K and shot no more than a box
or two of ammo through it. Earlier this year, I went to a firing range
with a friend and discovered how *really* bad I am with a handgun. I
couldn't hit a paper plate at 10 feet (part of the problem was the
factory sights, which were way off)... lotta good that'll do me in a
home invasion situation. So, I got rid of it. 

As a result of that experience, I strongly believe that concealed
carry permits should require a shooting test to demonstrate competent
shooting skill. It's bad enough that we have criminals out there with
handguns; the last thing we need on the streets is armed law abiding
citizens who can't shoot for shit. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY taught *The Supreme Doctrine* for modernity!

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:52 PM, sparaig wrote:

> If they're anything like the other texts you have cited, they are no  
> doubt
> grossly misinterpreted by yourself and the people who taught you.


I've always found it best to have someone who holds the "long"  
transmission, the original line from the historical and gnostic source  
of a teaching and the "close" transmission, someone who awakened that  
transmission recently in their own lives through meaningful contact  
with modern realizers of a given teaching. These have been my criteria  
and they've yet to fail me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:04 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

> Curtis, you are sounding very un-Obama-ish and very Bush-like with
> all this talk about guns and coming out ablazing if you find your
> life is in danger.
>
> May I suggest that instead of violence that you consider whipping out
> your mouthharp and performing a sweet little ditty for the crack-head
> who is hellbent upon cracking open YOUR head?
>
> Sure, you may spill a pint or two of the red stuff instead of your
> interlocker's...but you'll rest comfortably in your hospital bed
> knowing that you didn't lift a finger in violence against your fellow
> man.
>
> What would the Dalai Lama and Barky Hussein think of your willingness
> to do harm to your fellow incarnations of God?


All believers in reincarnation know that God recycles. Nonbelievers  
have Newton's third law to comfort them and the law of conservation of  
energy.

[FairfieldLife] Hillary Loving and Nurturing Obama/Biden Ticket'

[Robert]

 (She Got A Ticket to Ride)

'Obama must be our President'... 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[shempmcgurk]

Curtis, you are sounding very un-Obama-ish and very Bush-like with 
all this talk about guns and coming out ablazing if you find your 
life is in danger.

May I suggest that instead of violence that you consider whipping out 
your mouthharp and performing a sweet little ditty for the crack-head 
who is hellbent upon cracking open YOUR head?

Sure, you may spill a pint or two of the red stuff instead of your 
interlocker's...but you'll rest comfortably in your hospital bed 
knowing that you didn't lift a finger in violence against your fellow 
man.

What would the Dalai Lama and Barky Hussein think of your willingness 
to do harm to your fellow incarnations of God?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> That's interesting.  Did you load the shells yourself?  I've got a
> type of shell (Glaser safety slugs) for my Walther that wont go
> through my apartment walls.  But they are designed to be very, very
> bad for the person they hit.
> 
> The only way I could imagine using it is if I hear someone in my
> apartment on the other side of my locked bedroom door. (the most
> important home safety tip I know after replacing the screws on the
> door plate with 2" ones so that  they get into the stud behind the
> door frame).  I figure if someone is in my home knowing I am there,
> all bets are off and I gotta come out blazing if they kick through 
my
> bedroom door. 
> 
> The chances of someone busting a move on my way to or from my car is
> much higher I bet, so that is where I try to focus my attention. 
> Right now I have a kubaton key chain so I am always holding it.  I
> might replace it with an extendable metal baton.  That is a 
realistic
> thing to always have with me.  I doubt I can carry  one of the much
> larger stun batons around all the time. OF course when my hands are
> all full of musical geer I am looking pretty "Vic!" (The term 
muggers
> in DC use for an easy mark.)
> 
> Meanwhile I drive around the Beltway in Washington which is the real
> menace for my life!  I would rather get shot by a gun than get in a
> car wreck. 
> 
> My buddy whose nephew did some time in the joint recently said that
> the street phrase for getting shot is "gett'n your zipper" from the
> way the scar looks.  And one popular thug word for gun is "hammer." 
> Prisons are full of guys who are in jail for what they call a "flav
> and hammer charge", selling crack and carrying a weapon.  Just a few
> useful terms to use when writing your next crime novel!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > 
> > > My GF just got a wicked stun baton because she was bitten by a 
dog
> > > while roller blading.  That might be a useful thing to have 
since I
> > > doubt my ability to pull the trigger of a gun on another 
person.  Even
> > > trained cops and solders have trouble with this.  So a 
telescoping
> > > stun baton might be a more realistic self defense weapon to 
carry.
> > >
> > > Heyum Dukam Anagitam...ZZPPP!
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, I'd like to see more non-lethal weapons replace handguns. I 
want  
> > a Star Trek style Phaser I can set on stun or whatever is 
necessary.  
> > Right now I just keep a shotgun with shells loaded with split 
peas.  
> > Works for me...and no one will ever deliberately get killed by my 
hand!
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Robert]

(snip)
All of this sinister stuff of 'Blackwater' and the rest of the 
Texas/Wyoming kind of Macho thingy...
Well, that's part of what nature will no longer support, in the 
higher vibration, that is being created now...
This higher vibration, is a spontaneous balance to what would be a 
dangerous situation.
The legacy of the Bush administration is vast, and will take time to 
amend.
But, Barack Obama, will be able to lead, by inclusion and by truth 
telling...
He, like Mr.Lincoln, will not be so attatched to ego as his 
predecessor, and so, it will not be the same, at all.
The structure doesn't determine what happens...
Rather, consciousness determines what happens.
Structures come, and structures go, according to the consciousness of 
the time, and place.
R.G.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I 
suggested 
> > that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as 
the 
> > regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good 
idea?"
> > 
> > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
> > opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> > 
> > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN 
PARAMILITARY
> > 
> > I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all the Kool-Aid 
> > drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> > 
> > Ha!
> > 
> > Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
> >
> 
> Think Blackwater. Jeremy Skahill video:  http://tinyurl.com/yt2j96
> Does anyone think Obama can put the genie back in fascist bottle of
> the Bush administration or would he even want to? 
> 
> Naomi Wolf 10/31/08 reports she just saw the film version of "The 
End
> of America" http://tinyurl.com/6eedxe 
> 
> "The fact that the President can call anyone an enemy combatant now
> and hold them in solitary confinement for three years; the fact that
> you've got torture camps; the fact that they can "render" people – 
if
> this isn't using force against the individual in a effort to 
undermine
> democratic process, I don't know what is.
> 
> On 1 October, Bush deployed the First Brigade in the United States 
of
> America – that's 3,000 to 5,000 warriors redeployed from Iraq,
> battle-hardened, with tanks, with weapons. The army say their 
mission
> is crowd control and dealing with unruly individuals. That violates
> the Constitution and years of making sure the military don't police
> civilian streets. It's one definition of a police state. Then 
there's
> the federalised National Guard, not to mention Blackwater (the 
private
> security company).
> 
> I'm heartened by how The End of America has resonated with people. 
At
> my events now, it's conservatives and liberals attending because
> everyone gets that something very sinister is going on. That's what
> the film does: it shows how these individual stories we are familiar
> with fit into a much larger pattern.
> 
> We're not out of the woods, even if there's a miracle of a
> transparent, accountable, uncontested, not-defrauded Barack Obama
> victory. We're still in trouble without a citizens' movement to
> restore these checks and balances, to roll back these laws, because
> Obama will be subjected to the same pressures our current situation
> would give any leader.
> 
> My book notes that there's a giant profit motive in shredding the
> Constitution – telecommunications companies, weapons manufacturers,
> all of them are shifting into surveillance and security technology.
> And they're writing laws to facilitate security officials. So Obama
> will be faced with those pressures – and that's why citizens have to
> be a counterpressure.
> 
> The Founders knew that, without checks and balances, the
> best-intentioned leaders are going to attempt to surveil the
> opposition, intimidate their commentators, and threaten their
> journalists with prosecution under the Espionage Act."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> 
> > > Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary.
> > 
> > Quite correct...it's my word but as you'll see from the 
> > dictionary.com definition it is 100% applicable:
> > 
> > "noting or pertaining to an organization operating as, in
> > place of, or as a supplement to a regular military force:
> > a paramilitary police unit."
> 
> Nope, doesn't apply if the force isn't doing anything
> either military in nature or *for* the military.
> 
> Sorry, Shemp.
>


Here's a transcript from the entire 20-second youtube clip:

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve 
the national security objectives that we've set.  We've got to have a 
civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as 
strong, just as well-funded."

It sounds quite clear to me, Judy, that he is referring here to an 
alternative or supplement to a military FORCE.

Are such organisations only "military" in nature if they are actively 
engaged in wars...is that what you are suggesting?

If so, I would remind you that military forces do all sorts of things 
besides engage in wars, domestically and outside our borders: 
hurricane relief, postal service (when postal workers go on strike), 
escorting little minority girls to school when their governors 
symbolically block their entry to schools, etc.

But, of course, Obama is most definitely referring to the "force" 
aspect of this "civilian national security FORCE" (my emphasis) 
wherein within the borders of the United States that force will be 
used with guns, tear gas, whatever...or he wouldn't have used the 
word "force".

If there is another context to this outside the 20-minute clip, I'm 
open to hearing about it...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Nelson wrote:

>  Also, I meant we are lucky there were anti government gun nuts back
> when as otherwise we would likely still be paying a gross tax on tea.

Well, you'd be talking about my ancestors, who were founding fathers  
and mothers of this country. I was taught to use a gun at the age of  
eight, but there was never, ever anything even remotely nutty about  
it. It was about safety, respect and ethics.

Hopefully as neurological testing gets more precise, we'll simply be  
able to scan peoples brains non-invasively to see if they can't handle  
certain negative emotions or could snap and not let these types get  
guns or other weapons. Sort of like the TM Enlightenment Report Card,  
but for deadly weapons.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:35 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> 
>
> That's interesting.  Did you load the shells yourself?  I've got a
> type of shell (Glaser safety slugs) for my Walther that wont go
> through my apartment walls.  But they are designed to be very, very
> bad for the person they hit.


A friend loads them for me and turned me on to their use (as opposed  
to the old farmers fav: rock salt).

> My buddy whose nephew did some time in the joint recently said that
> the street phrase for getting shot is "gett'n your zipper" from the
> way the scar looks.

It's also medical slang for the scar you get from open heart surgery.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

> > Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary.
> 
> Quite correct...it's my word but as you'll see from the 
> dictionary.com definition it is 100% applicable:
> 
> "noting or pertaining to an organization operating as, in
> place of, or as a supplement to a regular military force:
> a paramilitary police unit."

Nope, doesn't apply if the force isn't doing anything
either military in nature or *for* the military.

Sorry, Shemp.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > 
> > > Vaj wrote:
> > >> Sarah Palin's husband is an anti-American
> > >> successionist...
> > >>
> > > Can you post any evidence to prove that Todd
> > > Palin is an anti-American 'successionist'? Is
> > > seccession from the federal union an official
> > > platform of the AIP?
> > 
> > It's untrue that Palin has no foreign policy experience, anyway. In  
> > fact, she appears to have seriously flirted with the idea of
trying to  
> > turn Alaska into a foreign country. How many vice presidential  
> > candidates can put that on their resumes?
> > 
> > Over the years, Palin has actively courted the Alaska Independence  
> > Party, or AIP, an organization that supports Alaskan secession from  
> > the U.S. To be clear, we're not necessarily talking about friendly  
> > secession either: As the AIP's founder, Joe Vogler, told an  
> > interviewer in 1991: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared  
> > to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried  
> > under their damn flag."
> > 
> > LA Times, Sept 2nd 2008
> > 
> > Doesn't sound like Todd and Sarah's group is very American to me!
What  
> > is the punishment for treason these days? Do they still shoot them?  
> > LOL, wouldn't that be ironic!?
> > 
> > But you're from Texas where 23% of the population thinks that a 20  
> > year member of a Christian Church is a Muslim and that a guy who
never  
> > goes to church, John McCain, is a Christian! Go figure. This why I  
> > support education after the 8th grade for all Texans.
> 
> Alaska won't be the only State wanting to succeed after the Libs get a
> hold of all three branches of government! 

I think the word you want is secede not succeed, but Alaska can't
afford to secede as it leads the nation in getting federal earmark
money.  Though it does have all those rich oil companies which
socialist sarah palin taxes and then spreads the wealth around to
every alaskan citizen whether hardworking or a godless commie bum.  

Palin doesn't want to secede (sarah, not todd) because her church
believes millions of christians will need to flee the lower 48 and
head for safety in Alaska when the end times come in the near future.
 Maybe after the election she can somehow convince her fellow
evangelicals to flee the lower 48 prior to the end times and make
things better for all of us without delay.




 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia",
> > I suggested that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is
> > just as strong as the regular military" and asked: "Doesn't
> that sound like a good idea?"
> >
> > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're
> > all opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> >
> > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN 
> > PARAMILITARY
> 
> Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary.

Correct. His term was "civilian national security
force."

> You might want to listen to it again. And it's way too brief
> to hear the context. Since there are no other references,
> it's hard to know if this quote from months ago actually
> represents the current policy stand of future President Obama.

There's nothing to that effect on his Web site.

(Although it's interesting that it doesn't seem to
bother Vaj that Obama could have made a proposal in
a speech in July that somehow no longer represents
his his policy stand in October, only four months
later.)

Actually, in context, the snippet in the clip Shemp
cited is a reference back to a whole long laundry list
of service-type opportunities (paid and volunteer)
he'd just described that he plans to institute, none
of them military in nature, but which he views as
essential to national security (health care, 
education, infrastructure, housing, environmental
cleanup, veteran support, foreign service, etc.).

By "civilian national security force," he meant all
those different service activities taken as a whole,
not a single formalized force, and certainly not a
"paramilitary" force. It was, um, something of a
metaphor.

In other words, it's Shemp who has been suckered (or
who is trying to sucker us).

The whole speech is here; the relevant part starts
at around 16 minutes in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

[FairfieldLife] obama's love child

[boo_lives]

I don't know how shemp could have missed this one:
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/this_is_the_gamechanger/

This Is The Gamechanger

In-depth genealogical research into the mysterious past of Barack
Hussein Obama has turned up a BOMBSHELL that will change the nature
and scope of this campaign forever. 

In 1979, Barack Hussein Obama graduated from the elite liberal Punahou
High School and needed to go to college.  Surely driven by the
Communist leanings instilled into him by noted Marxist Frank Marshall
Davis, Hussein Obama matriculated to Los Angeles' Occidental College,
a "liberal arts" (ha!  I love the euphemistic way in which they refer
to their Stalinesque indoctrination tactics) school where he first
began cementing the radical ideology that drives him today.

However, he only stayed at Occidental College for two years before
transferring all the way across the entire continent of the United
States to New York's Columbia University.  Why would he trade in one
liberal school for another all the way across the country?  Our
research staff has not shown a tie between terrorist William Ayers and
Hussein Obama until shortly after he arrived in New York, so what was it? 

Hussein Obama was running away from something.  What would force The
One to run from a sunny liberal paradise, much like the ones he grew
up in, to run away to the cold, snowy hell of New York City? 

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA HAS A LOVE CHILD. 

FACT: Barack Hussein Obama would have arrived in Los Angeles in the
summer of 1979.

FACT: Barack Hussein Obama admits to drug use during his college
years, but is never clear about when his drug use started.

FACT: A Hawaiian-raised, Indonesia-bred Kenyan boy with a white mother
would have been in deep need of getting in touch with his black side.

FACT: Compton has many black people and drugs.

FACT: This is a picture of Barack Obama.  He is between 6'2" and 6'3",
skinny and has a great outside jumper.  Note his facial structure:

image

FACT: This is a picture of Detroit Pistons forward Tayshaun Prince,
who is 6'9", skinny and has a great outside jumper.  Note the
undeniable facial similarity between Prince and Obama:

image
TAYSHAUN OBAMA X?

FACT: Tayshaun Prince was born in February of 1980.  That places his
conception date in the summer of 1979 - EXACTLY WHEN BARACK HUSSEIN
OBAMA WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRIVING IN LOS ANGELES AND LOOKING TO SCORE
SOME BLOW. 

This is incontrovertible evidence that wealth-spreader OBAMA left a
love child behind in California.  When will the Lamestream Media cover
this ironclad logical chain?  Will it be before it's TOO LATE?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> 
> > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I 
suggested
> > that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as 
the
> > regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good 
idea?"
> >
> > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all
> > opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> >
> > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN 
PARAMILITARY
> 
> Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary.


Quite correct...it's my word but as you'll see from the 
dictionary.com definition it is 100% applicable:

"noting or pertaining to an organization operating as, in place of, 
or as a supplement to a regular military force: a paramilitary police 
unit."




> You might want to  
> listen to it again. And it's way too brief to hear the context. 
Since  
> there are no other references, it's hard to know if this quote 
from  
> months ago actually represents the current policy stand of future  
> President Obama.



You are, of course, absolutely spot-on right there.

Obama has flip-flopped on almost everything he ever said BEFORE he 
procured the nomination...so who the hell knows where he stands now?





> 
> More people are killed EVERY YEAR by guns than in all the Iraq wars!



...and more people were killed in peace time by their own 
totalitarian regimes -- regimes in which GUN OWNERSHIP was outlawed --
 than all the wars in human history combined.






> I  
> look forward to working together with my representatives, the  
> democratic senate and President Barack Hussein Obama to force new,  
> stricter gun laws. Together we can stop the slaughter from gun 
nuts. I  
> think this would be a good use for the secret prisons of the Bush- 
> Cheney fascist regime!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[curtisdeltablues]

That's interesting.  Did you load the shells yourself?  I've got a
type of shell (Glaser safety slugs) for my Walther that wont go
through my apartment walls.  But they are designed to be very, very
bad for the person they hit.

The only way I could imagine using it is if I hear someone in my
apartment on the other side of my locked bedroom door. (the most
important home safety tip I know after replacing the screws on the
door plate with 2" ones so that  they get into the stud behind the
door frame).  I figure if someone is in my home knowing I am there,
all bets are off and I gotta come out blazing if they kick through my
bedroom door. 

The chances of someone busting a move on my way to or from my car is
much higher I bet, so that is where I try to focus my attention. 
Right now I have a kubaton key chain so I am always holding it.  I
might replace it with an extendable metal baton.  That is a realistic
thing to always have with me.  I doubt I can carry  one of the much
larger stun batons around all the time. OF course when my hands are
all full of musical geer I am looking pretty "Vic!" (The term muggers
in DC use for an easy mark.)

Meanwhile I drive around the Beltway in Washington which is the real
menace for my life!  I would rather get shot by a gun than get in a
car wreck. 

My buddy whose nephew did some time in the joint recently said that
the street phrase for getting shot is "gett'n your zipper" from the
way the scar looks.  And one popular thug word for gun is "hammer." 
Prisons are full of guys who are in jail for what they call a "flav
and hammer charge", selling crack and carrying a weapon.  Just a few
useful terms to use when writing your next crime novel!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > My GF just got a wicked stun baton because she was bitten by a dog
> > while roller blading.  That might be a useful thing to have since I
> > doubt my ability to pull the trigger of a gun on another person.  Even
> > trained cops and solders have trouble with this.  So a telescoping
> > stun baton might be a more realistic self defense weapon to carry.
> >
> > Heyum Dukam Anagitam...ZZPPP!
> 
> 
> Yeah, I'd like to see more non-lethal weapons replace handguns. I want  
> a Star Trek style Phaser I can set on stun or whatever is necessary.  
> Right now I just keep a shotgun with shells loaded with split peas.  
> Works for me...and no one will ever deliberately get killed by my hand!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> 
> > Vaj wrote:
> >> Sarah Palin's husband is an anti-American
> >> successionist...
> >>
> > Can you post any evidence to prove that Todd
> > Palin is an anti-American 'successionist'? Is
> > seccession from the federal union an official
> > platform of the AIP?
> 
> It's untrue that Palin has no foreign policy experience, anyway. In  
> fact, she appears to have seriously flirted with the idea of trying to  
> turn Alaska into a foreign country. How many vice presidential  
> candidates can put that on their resumes?
> 
> Over the years, Palin has actively courted the Alaska Independence  
> Party, or AIP, an organization that supports Alaskan secession from  
> the U.S. To be clear, we're not necessarily talking about friendly  
> secession either: As the AIP's founder, Joe Vogler, told an  
> interviewer in 1991: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared  
> to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried  
> under their damn flag."
> 
> LA Times, Sept 2nd 2008
> 
> Doesn't sound like Todd and Sarah's group is very American to me! What  
> is the punishment for treason these days? Do they still shoot them?  
> LOL, wouldn't that be ironic!?
> 
> But you're from Texas where 23% of the population thinks that a 20  
> year member of a Christian Church is a Muslim and that a guy who never  
> goes to church, John McCain, is a Christian! Go figure. This why I  
> support education after the 8th grade for all Texans.

Alaska won't be the only State wanting to succeed after the Libs get a
hold of all three branches of government!  Change?...boy, you can say
that again! I hope this doesn't result in a civil war!

Re: [FairfieldLife] A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Right, and it made sense then because there was no national army.  
The continental army disbanded after the revolutionary war. The  
threat of foreign invasion was quite real (e.g., the war of 1812)  
and the populace needed to be able to mobilize quickly. Also in  
those days, the rural populace needed to guns to hunt for food, and  
possibly to defend themselves against native Americans. It’s a very  
different world today, but I wouldn’t deny people the right to hunt  
or to defend themselves against someone who broke into their home,  
etc. I think the NRA gets it wrong in refusing to give an inch in  
restricting ownership of more powerful weapons, which are overkill  
for self-defense and hunting.



Hunting has become a farce. Many are no longer "sportsmen". Going out  
with scent hormones to lure the animals in and telescopic sights on  
high power rifles? Give me a break. The easiest way to bait a bear? Go  
get a dozen donuts at Dunkin Donuts. And many use this illegal ploy.


I was on a plane flight a while back and the guy in front of me was  
the guy who invented this new device. It looks like an iPod with a  
speaker on it. It will play the call of all sorts of animals, from  
mating sounds to cries of smaller animals. Apparently it works quite  
beautifully. He had plenty of pictures of the animals hunters had  
killed using it. And they're quite popular I guess. He was reading  
over a catalogue of new yachts when I met him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested 
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the 
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
> 
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> 
> BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY
> 
> I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all the Kool-Aid 
> drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> 
> Ha!
> 
> Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
>

Think Blackwater. Jeremy Skahill video:  http://tinyurl.com/yt2j96
Does anyone think Obama can put the genie back in fascist bottle of
the Bush administration or would he even want to? 

Naomi Wolf 10/31/08 reports she just saw the film version of "The End
of America" http://tinyurl.com/6eedxe 

"The fact that the President can call anyone an enemy combatant now
and hold them in solitary confinement for three years; the fact that
you've got torture camps; the fact that they can "render" people – if
this isn't using force against the individual in a effort to undermine
democratic process, I don't know what is.

On 1 October, Bush deployed the First Brigade in the United States of
America – that's 3,000 to 5,000 warriors redeployed from Iraq,
battle-hardened, with tanks, with weapons. The army say their mission
is crowd control and dealing with unruly individuals. That violates
the Constitution and years of making sure the military don't police
civilian streets. It's one definition of a police state. Then there's
the federalised National Guard, not to mention Blackwater (the private
security company).

I'm heartened by how The End of America has resonated with people. At
my events now, it's conservatives and liberals attending because
everyone gets that something very sinister is going on. That's what
the film does: it shows how these individual stories we are familiar
with fit into a much larger pattern.

We're not out of the woods, even if there's a miracle of a
transparent, accountable, uncontested, not-defrauded Barack Obama
victory. We're still in trouble without a citizens' movement to
restore these checks and balances, to roll back these laws, because
Obama will be subjected to the same pressures our current situation
would give any leader.

My book notes that there's a giant profit motive in shredding the
Constitution – telecommunications companies, weapons manufacturers,
all of them are shifting into surveillance and security technology.
And they're writing laws to facilitate security officials. So Obama
will be faced with those pressures – and that's why citizens have to
be a counterpressure.

The Founders knew that, without checks and balances, the
best-intentioned leaders are going to attempt to surveil the
opposition, intimidate their commentators, and threaten their
journalists with prosecution under the Espionage Act."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> My GF just got a wicked stun baton because she was bitten by a dog
> while roller blading.  That might be a useful thing to have since I
> doubt my ability to pull the trigger of a gun on another person.  Even
> trained cops and solders have trouble with this.  So a telescoping
> stun baton might be a more realistic self defense weapon to carry.
>
> Heyum Dukam Anagitam...ZZPPP!


Yeah, I'd like to see more non-lethal weapons replace handguns. I want  
a Star Trek style Phaser I can set on stun or whatever is necessary.  
Right now I just keep a shotgun with shells loaded with split peas.  
Works for me...and no one will ever deliberately get killed by my hand!

[FairfieldLife] Re: computer crises

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Sharalyn wrote:
> 
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > My computer has been broken or in the shop for TWO weeks (I'm having  
> > serious
> > withdrawal symptoms)
> 
> Apparently not *that* serious...
> 
> > and am having to get on-line at the library, with
> > nearly a thousand unread emails to scan through. If I've missed your  
> > post,
> > delayed posting, or approved for posting anything inappropiate, this  
> > is the
> > reason. My apologies.
> 
> We'll let it go this time...
> 
> > Hopefully things will be back to normal next week.
> 
> Oh, yes, let's hope...
> 
> >
> > I might mention what an interesting experience it's been not having a
> > computer.
> 
> Really?
> 
> > For some time now, I have been learning a lot about
> > self-sufficiency so intellectually I thought I didn't need one,
> 
> Stay with this thought, Sharlyn...
> 
> > but not
> > having it has really been an eye-opener, that we depend on them more  
> > than we
> > realize (not just email but ordinary daily stuff like on-line banking,
> > weather up-dates, researching stuff, etc.)  It makes me think everyone
> > should have a computer fast every now and then, just to find out how
> > dependent we are are it.
> 
> I've got an even better idea--try it out for the next year or so,
> then report back to us.
> 
> Sal


Now THAT'S comedy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Vaj wrote:

Sarah Palin's husband is an anti-American
successionist...


Can you post any evidence to prove that Todd
Palin is an anti-American 'successionist'? Is
seccession from the federal union an official
platform of the AIP?


It's untrue that Palin has no foreign policy experience, anyway. In  
fact, she appears to have seriously flirted with the idea of trying to  
turn Alaska into a foreign country. How many vice presidential  
candidates can put that on their resumes?


Over the years, Palin has actively courted the Alaska Independence  
Party, or AIP, an organization that supports Alaskan secession from  
the U.S. To be clear, we're not necessarily talking about friendly  
secession either: As the AIP's founder, Joe Vogler, told an  
interviewer in 1991: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared  
to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried  
under their damn flag."


LA Times, Sept 2nd 2008

Doesn't sound like Todd and Sarah's group is very American to me! What  
is the punishment for treason these days? Do they still shoot them?  
LOL, wouldn't that be ironic!?


But you're from Texas where 23% of the population thinks that a 20  
year member of a Christian Church is a Muslim and that a guy who never  
goes to church, John McCain, is a Christian! Go figure. This why I  
support education after the 8th grade for all Texans.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[curtisdeltablues]

I'm not an NRA guy, and I think some of their oppositions to
background checks was wrong.  I agree that the intention of the second
amendment had nothing to do with today because no militia could stand
up to the US army if the president went nuts.

That said, I also believe that people who are not into guns don't
really understand the arbitrary distinctions they are making between
types of guns and are making a show of restricting "dangerous"
weapons.  This seems very silly to me at best.  Most crimes are not
committed with any of the so called evil guns.  Handguns remain the
gun of choice for criminals because they are easy to conceal.  But no
one can ban these because honest citizens need them for the same
reasons criminals like them, they are convenient to use for
self-defense.  So we get arbitrary laws based on bogus distinctions
between types of fire arms and while the politicians strut around
about how tough they are on crime, no one is any safer.

I am in favor of strong background check laws, knowing full well that
the thugs in my neighborhood don't buy their guns in gun stores, they
steal them from homeowners or get them from the black market.  

But restricting a gun enthusiast from buying some esoteric kind of gun
seems silly to me.  All guns are deadly.  The only gun I fear is the
one that is not in my hand if the S hits the fan.

Here in VA I can walk around with a gun on my hip if I choose.  I
can't go into any place where booze is sold.  Guns cannot be concealed
without a pretty easy to get permit.  Sometimes when I get home late
in my neighborhood I wonder if I should get a carry permit.  Walking
around with one on my hip would just get me labeled as a cop here and
I'm not sure I want that.  It would also alert people that if they see
my car gone they might find a nice piece in my apartment.

My GF just got a wicked stun baton because she was bitten by a dog
while roller blading.  That might be a useful thing to have since I
doubt my ability to pull the trigger of a gun on another person.  Even
trained cops and solders have trouble with this.  So a telescoping
stun baton might be a more realistic self defense weapon to carry.

Heyum Dukam Anagitam...ZZPPP! 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:47 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A well regulated militia& our rights 2
bear arm's
> 
>  
> 
> The right of an Englishmen to bear arms was enshrined in our English
Bill of Rights,1688 & The Glorious Revolution  & included in all 6
drafts & revisions of the Bill of Rights,& agreeded to by Parlement
all  6 times & signed by the coe rulers & equally ruling soverns our
King William & Queen Mary. This right devolved on all free white
Protestant Englishmen now ( then ) & forever. These rights followed
all Englishmen where ever they settled  colonies included.
> 
>  
> 
> Right, and it made sense then because there was no national army.
The continental army disbanded after the revolutionary war. The threat
of foreign invasion was quite real (e.g., the war of 1812) and the
populace needed to be able to mobilize quickly. Also in those days,
the rural populace needed to guns to hunt for food, and possibly to
defend themselves against native Americans. It’s a very different
world today, but I wouldn’t deny people the right to hunt or to
defend themselves against someone who broke into their home, etc. I
think the NRA gets it wrong in refusing to give an inch in restricting
ownership of more powerful weapons, which are overkill for
self-defense and hunting.
>

[FairfieldLife] Real Time: Best Election Ever Recap

[do.rflex]

Bill Maher closed Friday night's "New Rules" with a great recap of the
2008 election and why it's been the best, most unpredictable race in
history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4lSWLf89c0

Re: [FairfieldLife] computer crises

[Sal Sunshine]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Sharalyn wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> My computer has been broken or in the shop for TWO weeks (I'm having  
> serious
> withdrawal symptoms)

Apparently not *that* serious...

> and am having to get on-line at the library, with
> nearly a thousand unread emails to scan through. If I've missed your  
> post,
> delayed posting, or approved for posting anything inappropiate, this  
> is the
> reason. My apologies.

We'll let it go this time...

> Hopefully things will be back to normal next week.

Oh, yes, let's hope...

>
> I might mention what an interesting experience it's been not having a
> computer.

Really?

> For some time now, I have been learning a lot about
> self-sufficiency so intellectually I thought I didn't need one,

Stay with this thought, Sharlyn...

> but not
> having it has really been an eye-opener, that we depend on them more  
> than we
> realize (not just email but ordinary daily stuff like on-line banking,
> weather up-dates, researching stuff, etc.)  It makes me think everyone
> should have a computer fast every now and then, just to find out how
> dependent we are are it.

I've got an even better idea--try it out for the next year or so,
then report back to us.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Vaj]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 11:26 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:

> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
>
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
>
> BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY

Actually Obama never used the word paramilitary. You might want to  
listen to it again. And it's way too brief to hear the context. Since  
there are no other references, it's hard to know if this quote from  
months ago actually represents the current policy stand of future  
President Obama.

More people are killed EVERY YEAR by guns than in all the Iraq wars! I  
look forward to working together with my representatives, the  
democratic senate and President Barack Hussein Obama to force new,  
stricter gun laws. Together we can stop the slaughter from gun nuts. I  
think this would be a good use for the secret prisons of the Bush- 
Cheney fascist regime!

[FairfieldLife] FW: 100+ Days for America - A Special Initiative

[Sharalyn]

Please forward this to all your meditating friends.

100+ Days for America - A Special Initiative

Dear Friends,

This is a time of enormous transformation and purification for our country
and the world. The financial crisis has upended our country's economy. We
will be electing a new President and Congress. Our nation will experience
more twists and turns as it faces many pressing challenges. Our new
president's first 100 days will be very important.

For some in our nation, this can be a time of fear and uncertainty. It
doesn't need to be that for us.

We know this can also be a time of great opportunity and growth.

As Yogic Flyers, we have the ability to directly influence our nation's
collective consciousness and make this phase transition a smoother, more
comfortable, and positive experience for all.

We have achieved our minimum Super Radiance numbers, with deep gratitude to
our Maharishi Vedic Pandits. But we can do more. Maharishi perpetually asked
himself 'what more can I do?' - and so can we. We can reach 2500, the number
Maharishi said would make our country invincible.

8000 NOW invites every Yogic Flyer to look inside and see what more we can
each do to contribute to an even greater level of coherence and Support of
Nature for our country and ourselves.

We invite you to make a personal commitment to Maharishi and Guru Dev to
keep through the new President's first 100 days in office.

Depending on what you are already doing, your commitment could include:

· Joining the Invincible America Assembly
· Coming to group program more frequently
· Doing longer programs
· Rounding on the weekends
· Adopting an earlier bedtime to make morning program (and have clearer
experiences when we are there)
· Making sure we do every single part of our program
· Calling or emailing friends and inviting them to take part in this
initiative
· Helping others attend program with rides or other forms of support
(finding babysitters, etc.)
· Encouraging your employees to increase their Super Radiance attendance in
whatever way possible
· Leaving work earlier to make group program
· Having your family and/or company participate in the Maharishi Yagya
program
· These are just a few ideas, please send us more if you have them!

We all have many important responsibilities that challenge our time and
resources. So this is a personal decision to make with Maharishi and Guru
Dev.

We just ask that you honestly assess what more you can do -- and then do it!

Let's start immediately, before the election, to ensure that the best
possible presidential candidate is selected and to ensure we elect a
Congress that can make the wisest decisions for our country.

Let's continue after November 4 to help our country - and the world -
recover from the financial crisis.

Let's keep it up for the first 100 days after our new President takes office
to help him and our new Congress make the best decisions as they address the
enormous challenges facing our nation.

By that time, we may feel so committed, we will want to keep it going and
going to usher in more prosperous, healthy, and evolutionary times for all.

We invite you to write down your commitment and offer it at one of the boxes
set up at all the flying halls.

A form is attached and copies will also be available in all flying halls. No
names are necessary. Or simply keep your commitment to yourself. The
important thing is to act.

Together, let's make our nation invincible and reap the rewards.

Thank you for all you are doing.

Jai Guru Dev,
8000 NOW

"What lies behind us, and what lies before us, are tiny matters compared to
what lies within us."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson




100+ Days for America.doc
Description: MS-Word document

[FairfieldLife] computer crises

[Sharalyn]

Dear Friends,

My computer has been broken or in the shop for TWO weeks (I'm having serious
withdrawal symptoms) and am having to get on-line at the library, with
nearly a thousand unread emails to scan through. If I've missed your post,
delayed posting, or approved for posting anything inappropiate, this is the
reason. My apologies. Hopefully things will be back to normal next week.

I might mention what an interesting experience it's been not having a
computer. For some time now, I have been learning a lot about
self-sufficiency so intellectually I thought I didn't need one, but not
having it has really been an eye-opener, that we depend on them more than we
realize (not just email but ordinary daily stuff like on-line banking,
weather up-dates, researching stuff, etc.)  It makes me think everyone
should have a computer fast every now and then, just to find out how
dependent we are are it.

Namaste,
Sharalyn

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY taught *The Supreme Doctrine* for modernity!

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:31 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> >> 'Style changes with the way of seeing (darshana)' is another way of
> >> saying it. I'm in perfect agreement with MMY on the darshanas
> >> corresponding to different ways of seeing and different states of
> >> consciousness (as described in "Maharishi Vedic Science"), that is an
> >> authentic teaching.
> >>
> >
> > My point is simply that you (and MMY perhaps) miss that growth is  
> > spontaneous.
> 
> 
> While I wouldn't deny that growth can be spontaneous, that's rarely  
> the case when we're speaking of transition from a dualistic "higher  
> state of consciousness", a yogic attainment, and the nondual  
> condition, as they represent radically different modes of seeing the  
> world.
> 
> I'm not sure why MMY did not teach the rationale behind the different  
> styles of meditation in his tradition and their evolutionary roles.  
> Either he didn't know or didn't want to. One wonders if it was to keep  
> them trapped in his trip, for fear that people would move on. Call it  
> the "M.E.", the Mushroom Effect, keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em  
> shit I guess!
> 
> But any decent Indian pundit with a knowledge of yoga and Vedanta  
> could clearly explain the differences. In fact, there are texts which  
> do so in the Shank. trad.
>

If they're anything like the other texts you have cited, they are no doubt
grossly misinterpreted by yourself and the people who taught you.


Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> Billy G., are you serious? Where do you get your information? I have
to assume this is a joke. But if its not, tell me, from what news
articles do you surmise the Obama is going to hand over cash and power
to the UN? Cloudy ritam ?

It's all about reading the tea leaves my friend! Obama won't do
anything controversial without UN approval, as such he will always be
insulated from criticism AND will always have an 'out' when it comes
to difficult decisions.  Mark my words, many things America should do
as a world power will 'die on the grape vine' at the United
Nations.Obama, a leader?  I'll believe it when I see it!

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Drudge~Report Indulges in Domestic PSYOPS'

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Appears on: dudgereport
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The latest ad, by the McCain/Palin campaign, still attempts to tie Barack 
> Obama with a 
terrorist...
> How stupid these people are? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How stupid do these people think we are?
> �
>

Yesterday, I received an email from my ISP saying due to an emergency security
measure, I had to update my account immediately. Please respond:


Name:
Password:




My friend and I read that and she sighed and said: and yet there are plenty of 
people who will respond to that, which is sad. I replied: Palin supporters.

We both laughed and agreed that it was sad, but true.



Lawson

[FairfieldLife] FW:reminder: Please Vote for Will Richards and Earl Shepard

[Sharalyn]

--
From: David Sands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:02:09 -0500
To: IHFC ‹ Fairfield Contacts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: For Jefferson County Supervisors Please Vote for
Will Richards and Earl Shepard


-- Forwarded Message
From: Steve Guich 
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:06:27 -0700
Subject: VERY IMPORTANT note - Vote for Will Richard s and Earl Shepard


in addition to the very important change that is needed on the federal
level, a CRITICALLY important LOCAL (Fairfield) election is also being held

be aware that residents in Fairfield and Jefferson county can simply walk in
and vote at city hall during business hours friday (oct 31st) and monday
(nov 3rd), or else can vote on big tuesday nov 4th at their assigned polling
place - please don't let the dates and opportunity slip by

as many of you may know, the primary election had a relatively small
turnout, so every vote can make a BIG difference

and there are two candidates running for the Jefferson County Board of
Supervisors who are positioned to make a very important difference in the
quality of life for Fairfield (home of MUM), Vedic City and all of Jefferson
County - Will Richards and Earl Shepard


here is a previous email from Pat Bosold:


~

From: "Patrick and Ann Bosold" 
Date: October 20, 2008 
Subject: Will Richards & Earl Shepard - Supervisor campaign update

Dear friends,
 
With apologies to any of you who don't like political emails: I do this
rarely, but this one matters. In my estimation the upcoming Board of
Supervisors election is about whether we're going to have 4 more years of a
Board of Supervisors acting as a cheerleading squad for hog confinements and
industrialized agribusiness-as-usual in Jefferson County, or whether we're
going to have two new supervisors who will give the rest of us a seat at the
table.
 
Please vote in this election. Please vote for Will Richards and Earl
Shepard. Please pass this along to everyone you know who is eligible to vote
in Jefferson County.
 
Patrick Bosold
 
~

so please take the time to vote for positive change in this election,
especially if you live in Jefferson County, IA

and if you don't live in Iowa, PLEASE PASS this email along to as many
people as you might know - even if you aren't in Fairfield yourself, most
likely there are many people you know who are (and/or they likely know
people who are), and we really need a powerful turnout to make a difference
(even a dozen or so votes could make that critical difference)


Thank you very much for immediately passing this email along to everyone
that you can 
 



Steven M. Guich, Ph.D
Renaissance Capital Partners
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
949-422-6295




-- End of Forwarded Message

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ayers Dedicates book to Sirhan Sirhan, JFK Assassin

[enlightened_dawn11]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> > >  wrote:
> > > > i've heard that once barack hussein obama is elected 
president, 
> > he 
> > > > will mandate that all white people in the country each be 
> > confined 
> > > > to a tanning booth at least two hours per week, and must 
perm 
> > their 
> > > > hair after dyeing it black. scary, huh?
> > > > 
> > > > i've also heard that he will give all of the (now darkly 
tanned 
> > and 
> > > > permed) white peoples' houses to real black people and the 
> > whites  
> > > > will be forced to move into the inner cities, after giving 
all 
> > of 
> > > > their money to the government for increased welfare payments 
for 
> > the 
> > > > blacks.
> > > > 
> > > > oh i hope that john mccain and sarah palin save us, or even 
> > cynthia 
> > > > mckinney (who is expected to get almost a thousand votes)! 
oh 
> > jesus 
> > > > lord, what is happening to this country?!
> > > 
> > > Whistle in the dark a tune of levity
> > > Competent reason defers to brevity
> > >
> > so...what do you mean, "in the dark"? hmmm, a racial reference 
> > perhaps- saying that dark people are incompetent? lol
> 
> Racial code lurks everywhere
> Speak to you? I do not dare
> Thought police make up lies
> Excuse the censor and freedom dies
>
here's another racial message of mine to you: i was 
joking, "lighten" up...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Peter]

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, BillyG. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: BillyG. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL 
> Obama-bots get suckered.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 1:23 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > In the thread I started titled "a well regulated
> militia", I suggested 
> > that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is
> just as strong as the 
> > regular military" and asked: "Doesn't
> that sound like a good idea?"
> > 
> > The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how
> they're all 
> > opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> > 
> > BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN
> PARAMILITARY
> > 
> > I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that
> all the Kool-Aid 
> > drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> > 
> > Ha!
> > 
> > Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
> 
> Actually Shemp, Obama will be handing over all World
> Leadership roles
> to the United Nations. As he hands over the cash and the
> power to the
> UN he will be very, very popular! I doubt America will ever
> show any
> real leadership on the World stage again, as long as Obama
> is in
> command. This is bad news for Israel as the UN is typically
> pro-Palestinian.


Billy G., are you serious? Where do you get your information? I have to assume 
this is a joke. But if its not, tell me, from what news articles do you surmise 
the Obama is going to hand over cash and power to the UN? Cloudy ritam ?



> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

  

RE: [FairfieldLife] A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:47 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A well regulated militia& our rights 2 bear arm's

 

The right of an Englishmen to bear arms was enshrined in our English Bill of 
Rights,1688 & The Glorious Revolution  & included in all 6 drafts & revisions 
of the Bill of Rights,& agreeded to by Parlement all  6 times & signed by the 
coe rulers & equally ruling soverns our King William & Queen Mary. This right 
devolved on all free white Protestant Englishmen now ( then ) & forever. These 
rights followed all Englishmen where ever they settled  colonies included.

 

Right, and it made sense then because there was no national army. The 
continental army disbanded after the revolutionary war. The threat of foreign 
invasion was quite real (e.g., the war of 1812) and the populace needed to be 
able to mobilize quickly. Also in those days, the rural populace needed to guns 
to hunt for food, and possibly to defend themselves against native Americans. 
It’s a very different world today, but I wouldn’t deny people the right to hunt 
or to defend themselves against someone who broke into their home, etc. I think 
the NRA gets it wrong in refusing to give an inch in restricting ownership of 
more powerful weapons, which are overkill for self-defense and hunting.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Peter]

What a dumb half-nigger he is! Snicker snicker..


--- On Sun, 11/2/08, shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots 
> get suckered.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 11:26 AM
> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated
> militia", I suggested 
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as
> strong as the 
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that
> sound like a good idea?"
> 
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how
> they're all 
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> 
> BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN
> PARAMILITARY
> 
> I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all
> the Kool-Aid 
> drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> 
> Ha!
> 
> Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[BillyG.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested 
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the 
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
> 
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> 
> BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY
> 
> I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all the Kool-Aid 
> drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> 
> Ha!
> 
> Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Actually Shemp, Obama will be handing over all World Leadership roles
to the United Nations. As he hands over the cash and the power to the
UN he will be very, very popular! I doubt America will ever show any
real leadership on the World stage again, as long as Obama is in
command. This is bad news for Israel as the UN is typically
pro-Palestinian.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested 
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the 
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
> 
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.
> 
> BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY
> 
> I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all the Kool-Aid 
> drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!
> 
> Ha!
> 
> Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
>
++ It looks like the list of bots is in error- Obummer is one of the
worst on the anti second amendment crowd.
   Also, I meant we are lucky there were anti government gun nuts back
when as otherwise we would likely still be paying a gross tax on tea.
Today, it is those who are running things that are un American not
those who have given them the low ratings.   N.

[FairfieldLife] KIMI, put him out!

[cardemaister]

Some fans of Felipe "McCain" Massa hope that Kimi would
intentionally crash with Lewis "Obama" Hamilton to help
his (Kimi's) Ferrari team mate win the Formula 1 Championship!?

http://static.iltalehti.fi/formulat/brasiliaplakaattiJBE_410_fo.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Obama seven points ahead in CNN's final poll

[do.rflex]

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, released Sunday
morning, 53 percent of likely voters say they are backing Obama, a
Democratic senator from Illinois, for president, while 46 percent
support McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona. [...]

Obama also holds a commanding lead in CNN's Electoral Map. CNN
estimates that if the election were held today, Obama would win states
worth 291 electoral votes — more than enough to capture the White House.

McCain would take states worth 157 electoral votes, while states worth
a combined total of 90 electoral votes would still be up for grabs. A
candidate needs 270 electoral votes to win.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/02/obama-seven-points-ahead-in-cnns-final-poll/

http://tinyurl.com/5q67op

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heidi Klum goes goddess on our asses

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For enlightened_dawn, who mentioned her here
> recently, Heidi Klum's Halloween costume:
> 
> http://i35.tinypic.com/2mhy2a1.jpg
> 
> A veritable GILF.
  
Wow, that's fantastic! I wonder if the Hindu fundies will make a big
stink about it.

[FairfieldLife] McCain Supporter Refuses Candy to Kids of Obama Voters

[do.rflex]

File Under: Sicko Right Wingers


Just when you thought McCain supporters could sink no lower…

McCain Supporter Refuses Candy to Trick or Treaters Whose Parents Vote
Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkBE0lWeYU

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'In Ohio~ Barack leads 52 to 46(lastest poll)

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bruce Springstein performs today in Columbus for Senator Barack Obama.
>  
Only 2 more days 

There's a dark cloud rising from the desert floor
I packed my bags and I'm heading straight into the storm
Gonna be a twister to blow everything down
That ain't got the faith to stand its ground
Blow away the dreams that tear you apart
Blow away the dreams that break your heart
Blow away the lies that leave you nothing but lost and brokenhearted

The dogs on main street howl `cause they understand
If I could take one moment into my hands
Mister I ain't a boy, no I'm a man
And I believe in a promised land

  Promised Land by Bruce Springsteen

\

Re: [FairfieldLife] Funeral Humor

[I am the eternal]

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 8:07 AM, do.rflex wrote:
>
> McCain Stars on SNL via:
> http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/11/02/mccain_stars_on_snl.html
>
> Personally I thought he was pretty good--definitely a better comedian than
> politician.
> Sal

Thanks for the link.  The Palin part was a hoot.  I almost fell over
laughing when she pulled out the Palin in 2012 tee shirts and said
either she's going to run for president or become a white Oprah.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Vaj wrote:
> > Sarah Palin's husband is an anti-American 
> > successionist... 
> >
> Can you post any evidence to prove that Todd
> Palin is an anti-American 'successionist'? Is 
> seccession from the federal union an official
> platform of the AIP?
> 
That's Alaska INDEPENDENCE Party, as in independence from the US. 
Seccession from the US is their primary goal.  Their founder advocated
violence if necessary to achieve the goal and enjoyed plastic
explosives.  On their website is his most famous saying:  "I'm an
Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America and her damned
institutions."  He's also in print:  ""The fires of hell are frozen
glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I
won't be buried under their damn flag."

Of course, the guy's white and a racist, so he can't really be
considered a terrorist or anti-american.  Plus damning the american
govt for supporting apartheid in south africa (the topic behind Rev.
Wright's famous damn america sermon) is much worse than damning
america for having taxes and civil rights laws.






  
> "Ms. Palin has been registered as a Republican 
> since May 1982, according to the State Division 
> of Elections. Mr. Palin registered as a member 
> of the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995, 
> remaining a member for all but two months of the 
> next seven years, until he registered as an 
> undeclared voter in July 2002."
> 
> Read more:
> 
> 'A Palin Joined Alaskan Third Party, Just Not Sarah Palin'
> By Kate Zernike
> New York Times, September 3, 2008 
> http://tinyurl.com/6kmomw
> 
> Alaskan Indepenance Party:
> http://www.akip.org/
> 
> Alaskan Independence Party:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_Independence_Party
>

[FairfieldLife] And now for the really important stuff

[shempmcgurk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcroQsUN60s&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested 
> that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the 
> regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"
> 
> The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
> opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.

Nelson's comment was pro-gun (and his yard is full of McCain signs.) Duh.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing: Obama Helped Stranded Stranger 20 Years Ago

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I won't argue with you because you are a right-wing troll.



Oh, I thought maybe you would argue with me because you had evidence 
to back up your contentions.

You obviously don't.



> Barack's
> resume speaks for itself. 





Oh, really?

Then it should be easy enough to point out his "outstanding 
accomplishments."

But you can't. Because there aren't any.

You stand corrected.






> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Amazing was not my heading. I thought it was a nice story. 
> > Interesting
> > > that you describe the life of a man who at the age of 46 or so 
is on
> > > the brink of becoming the first black president of the United 
States
> > > as one of "almost non-accomplishment." Barack's life in fact 
has 
> > been
> > > a series of outstanding accomplishments -- and he's only just 
> > started.
> > 
> > 
> > About two months ago, Salvatore tried to pull a fast one by 
claiming 
> > that Barack had so many accomplishments that she couldn't even 
list 
> > them.
> > 
> > Aside from any academic accomplishments and getting elected (two 
> > things which mean practically nothing in the real world), I asked 
Sal 
> > to list ACTUAL accomplishments that Barack had had.  Any 
legislative 
> > power-houses he was responsible for, perhaps?  Something in the 
> > private sector maybe?  
> > 
> > SHE WASN'T ABLE TO NAME ANY...AND HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SINCE 
(DESPITE 
> > MY PLEADING WITH HER TO DO SO).
> > 
> > Look, feste37, Obama hasn't done anything.  And in the grasping 
for 
> > anything of accomplishment (which, of course, is what is behind 
your 
> > airport/Norweigan story) you are making claims about The One that 
has 
> > no basis in reality.
> > 
> > So, go ahead, name his accomplishments...or, as you put it, 
> > his "outstanding accomplishments."  
> > 
> > Can you?
> > 
> > When asked this question, people sputter and say "he was a 
community 
> > organiser!"  But when you examine his very limited resume in this 
> > area, not only was he NOT successful, it is replete with the 
whole 
> > William Ayers thing!
> > 
> > Barack even fucked up the teeny-weeny little part of his life 
that 
> > could have -- by a BIG stretch of the imagination -- actually 
been 
> > considered as a possible accomplishment.
> > 
> > You're in love with a concept...one made from whole cloth.
> > 
> > And like the whole fanciful catastrophic man-made global warming 
> > concept, you've bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > great story about how Barack helped a Norwegian woman at an 
> > airport.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/183340/309/352/621029
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear feste37,
> > > > 
> > > > The story is neither amazing nor great.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, when you are considering a life of almost non-
> > > > accomplishment that is Barack Obama, certainly ANYTHING would 
> > seem 
> > > > great or amazing.
> > > > 
> > > > Look, you're really digging deep for this one.  And it's a 
sad 
> > > > reflection on the man that we, the country, are reduced to 
> > declaring 
> > > > such, relatively, minor instances of nicety as "Wow!" moments.
> > > > 
> > > > They're not.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll tell you what would have been a real "Wow!" moment: at 
any 
> > point 
> > > > during the 20 years that Barack Obama sat in that racist 
church 
> > > > listening to that hate-monger spew his racist crap, if Barack 
had 
> > > > picked himself up and left...now, THAT would have been 
something.
> > > > 
> > > > But, as we all know, this alleged man of integrity only did 
it 
> > when 
> > > > it was politically expedient to do it.
> > > > 
> > > > Shame.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing: Obama Helped Stranded Stranger 20 Years Ago

[feste37]

I won't argue with you because you are a right-wing troll. Barack's
resume speaks for itself. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Amazing was not my heading. I thought it was a nice story. 
> Interesting
> > that you describe the life of a man who at the age of 46 or so is on
> > the brink of becoming the first black president of the United States
> > as one of "almost non-accomplishment." Barack's life in fact has 
> been
> > a series of outstanding accomplishments -- and he's only just 
> started.
> 
> 
> About two months ago, Salvatore tried to pull a fast one by claiming 
> that Barack had so many accomplishments that she couldn't even list 
> them.
> 
> Aside from any academic accomplishments and getting elected (two 
> things which mean practically nothing in the real world), I asked Sal 
> to list ACTUAL accomplishments that Barack had had.  Any legislative 
> power-houses he was responsible for, perhaps?  Something in the 
> private sector maybe?  
> 
> SHE WASN'T ABLE TO NAME ANY...AND HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SINCE (DESPITE 
> MY PLEADING WITH HER TO DO SO).
> 
> Look, feste37, Obama hasn't done anything.  And in the grasping for 
> anything of accomplishment (which, of course, is what is behind your 
> airport/Norweigan story) you are making claims about The One that has 
> no basis in reality.
> 
> So, go ahead, name his accomplishments...or, as you put it, 
> his "outstanding accomplishments."  
> 
> Can you?
> 
> When asked this question, people sputter and say "he was a community 
> organiser!"  But when you examine his very limited resume in this 
> area, not only was he NOT successful, it is replete with the whole 
> William Ayers thing!
> 
> Barack even fucked up the teeny-weeny little part of his life that 
> could have -- by a BIG stretch of the imagination -- actually been 
> considered as a possible accomplishment.
> 
> You're in love with a concept...one made from whole cloth.
> 
> And like the whole fanciful catastrophic man-made global warming 
> concept, you've bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > great story about how Barack helped a Norwegian woman at an 
> airport.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/183340/309/352/621029
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dear feste37,
> > > 
> > > The story is neither amazing nor great.
> > > 
> > > Of course, when you are considering a life of almost non-
> > > accomplishment that is Barack Obama, certainly ANYTHING would 
> seem 
> > > great or amazing.
> > > 
> > > Look, you're really digging deep for this one.  And it's a sad 
> > > reflection on the man that we, the country, are reduced to 
> declaring 
> > > such, relatively, minor instances of nicety as "Wow!" moments.
> > > 
> > > They're not.
> > > 
> > > I'll tell you what would have been a real "Wow!" moment: at any 
> point 
> > > during the 20 years that Barack Obama sat in that racist church 
> > > listening to that hate-monger spew his racist crap, if Barack had 
> > > picked himself up and left...now, THAT would have been something.
> > > 
> > > But, as we all know, this alleged man of integrity only did it 
> when 
> > > it was politically expedient to do it.
> > > 
> > > Shame.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing: Obama Helped Stranded Stranger 20 Years Ago

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Amazing was not my heading. I thought it was a nice story. 
Interesting
> that you describe the life of a man who at the age of 46 or so is on
> the brink of becoming the first black president of the United States
> as one of "almost non-accomplishment." Barack's life in fact has 
been
> a series of outstanding accomplishments -- and he's only just 
started.


About two months ago, Salvatore tried to pull a fast one by claiming 
that Barack had so many accomplishments that she couldn't even list 
them.

Aside from any academic accomplishments and getting elected (two 
things which mean practically nothing in the real world), I asked Sal 
to list ACTUAL accomplishments that Barack had had.  Any legislative 
power-houses he was responsible for, perhaps?  Something in the 
private sector maybe?  

SHE WASN'T ABLE TO NAME ANY...AND HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SINCE (DESPITE 
MY PLEADING WITH HER TO DO SO).

Look, feste37, Obama hasn't done anything.  And in the grasping for 
anything of accomplishment (which, of course, is what is behind your 
airport/Norweigan story) you are making claims about The One that has 
no basis in reality.

So, go ahead, name his accomplishments...or, as you put it, 
his "outstanding accomplishments."  

Can you?

When asked this question, people sputter and say "he was a community 
organiser!"  But when you examine his very limited resume in this 
area, not only was he NOT successful, it is replete with the whole 
William Ayers thing!

Barack even fucked up the teeny-weeny little part of his life that 
could have -- by a BIG stretch of the imagination -- actually been 
considered as a possible accomplishment.

You're in love with a concept...one made from whole cloth.

And like the whole fanciful catastrophic man-made global warming 
concept, you've bought into it hook, line, and sinker.




> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > great story about how Barack helped a Norwegian woman at an 
airport.
> > > 
> > > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/183340/309/352/621029
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Dear feste37,
> > 
> > The story is neither amazing nor great.
> > 
> > Of course, when you are considering a life of almost non-
> > accomplishment that is Barack Obama, certainly ANYTHING would 
seem 
> > great or amazing.
> > 
> > Look, you're really digging deep for this one.  And it's a sad 
> > reflection on the man that we, the country, are reduced to 
declaring 
> > such, relatively, minor instances of nicety as "Wow!" moments.
> > 
> > They're not.
> > 
> > I'll tell you what would have been a real "Wow!" moment: at any 
point 
> > during the 20 years that Barack Obama sat in that racist church 
> > listening to that hate-monger spew his racist crap, if Barack had 
> > picked himself up and left...now, THAT would have been something.
> > 
> > But, as we all know, this alleged man of integrity only did it 
when 
> > it was politically expedient to do it.
> > 
> > Shame.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A well regulated militia

[Richard J. Williams]

Vaj wrote:
> Sarah Palin's husband is an anti-American 
> successionist... 
>
Can you post any evidence to prove that Todd
Palin is an anti-American 'successionist'? Is 
seccession from the federal union an official
platform of the AIP?

"Ms. Palin has been registered as a Republican 
since May 1982, according to the State Division 
of Elections. Mr. Palin registered as a member 
of the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995, 
remaining a member for all but two months of the 
next seven years, until he registered as an 
undeclared voter in July 2002."

Read more:

'A Palin Joined Alaskan Third Party, Just Not Sarah Palin'
By Kate Zernike
New York Times, September 3, 2008 
http://tinyurl.com/6kmomw

Alaskan Indepenance Party:
http://www.akip.org/

Alaskan Independence Party:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_Independence_Party

[FairfieldLife] Obama supports civilian paramilitary, FFL Obama-bots get suckered.

[shempmcgurk]

In the thread I started titled "a well regulated militia", I suggested 
that there be "a civilian paramilitary that is just as strong as the 
regular military" and asked: "Doesn't that sound like a good idea?"

The Obama-bots all chimed in to snicker and say how they're all 
opposed: Rick, Bob, Gullible Fool, Vajina, Nelson.

BUT IT'S BARACK OBAMA WHO IS SUGGESTING A CIVILIAN PARAMILITARY

I knew if I didn't credit him as wanting it that all the Kool-Aid 
drinkers would get on board in their condemnation!

Ha!

Watch it and weep, ye brain-washed masses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing: Obama Helped Stranded Stranger 20 Years Ago

[feste37]

Amazing was not my heading. I thought it was a nice story. Interesting
that you describe the life of a man who at the age of 46 or so is on
the brink of becoming the first black president of the United States
as one of "almost non-accomplishment." Barack's life in fact has been
a series of outstanding accomplishments -- and he's only just started.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > great story about how Barack helped a Norwegian woman at an airport.
> > 
> > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/183340/309/352/621029
> >
> 
> 
> Dear feste37,
> 
> The story is neither amazing nor great.
> 
> Of course, when you are considering a life of almost non-
> accomplishment that is Barack Obama, certainly ANYTHING would seem 
> great or amazing.
> 
> Look, you're really digging deep for this one.  And it's a sad 
> reflection on the man that we, the country, are reduced to declaring 
> such, relatively, minor instances of nicety as "Wow!" moments.
> 
> They're not.
> 
> I'll tell you what would have been a real "Wow!" moment: at any point 
> during the 20 years that Barack Obama sat in that racist church 
> listening to that hate-monger spew his racist crap, if Barack had 
> picked himself up and left...now, THAT would have been something.
> 
> But, as we all know, this alleged man of integrity only did it when 
> it was politically expedient to do it.
> 
> Shame.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego and mouth

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:07 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> (snip)
> >> !  The Zogby poll
>  today, according to Drudge, has McCain one point ahead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What I heard is that the Zogby poll shows McCain gaining a 
point.
> >>>
> >>> Lawson
> 
> Poll Update: The CBS/Times poll found 54 percent of those surveyed  
> supporting Obama, compared to 41 percent for McCain. That's a 2  
> percent swing to the Democrat since Thursday. UPI: "There is 
little  
> good news for Republican nominee John McCain in two polls released  
> Saturday, three days before the U.S. presidential election."
> 
> There's just no way McCain is catching up at this point, not in 
this  
> lifetime...
> 
> Sal
>


You are so right, Sal.

Tell you what you do: this Tuesday, stay home.

No need for you to bother your pretty little head getting all mussed 
up in order to go to the polling station.

Stay home.  Eat bon-bons while you watch "The View".  Why, have 
yourself a martini.

It's a done deal and your one vote won't make a difference anyway.

And let this be a life-lesson for ALL you crackpot, Kool Aid-drinking 
Obama-bots.  It's in the bag so, please, stay home and celebrate.

Why, you can start celebrating now.  Go on, get started.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Streaks of Sky

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What "grade" poetry is this? One of my favorites.
> > 
> > THE FORCE THAT THROUGH THE GREEN FUSE DRIVES THE FLOWER
> 
> No idea. Whatever grade it seems like to you.
> 
> If I were to continue the poetry-rated-by-level-
> of-education metaphor, however, here's one that's 
> probably at the Ph.D. level or above:
> 
> 
> Near the rose, in this grove of
> sun-parched, wind-warped madrones
> Among the half-dead trees, I came
> upon the true ease of myself,
> As if another person appeared out of
> the depths of my being,
> And I stood outside myself,
> Beyond becoming and perishing.
> A something wholly other,
> As if I swayed out on the wildest
> wave alive, And yet was still.
> And I rejoiced in being what I was.
> 
> - Theodore Roethke
>

Roethke: Ph.D. navel-gazing. Dylan Thomas: Fabulous!