[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Buddhists love to pick on others. It's an inferiorcomplex due to the inferior nature of their meditative straining. Just watch Vaj here on FFL - he does this constantly, year after year. in general, i've met very few ( ok, none... actually) normally adjusted people who are heavily associated with a religion, be it buddhist, hindu, christian, etc., because their heavy involvement with the external group is a symptom of areas in which they are lacking. and the more involved they are, the more unbalanced they become. While I cannot disagree, I have found that the same imbalance and *lack* is seen in those who are strongly anti-religion, to a greater degree. that makes sense. Do you actually believe that Nabby's obvious hatred of things Buddhist (something he is repeating as rote from the Shankaracharya trad- ition) is *balanced*? nabby strikes me as a pretty religous person. The only balance I've seen in the world of religion and belief is in those who can take it or leave it, and who don't *depend* upon it to define themselves. uh-huh, or anything else to define themselves. I've met Catholic priests who would be equally happy if the Catholic Church disappeared tomorrow, and all they had to define themselves was the lifestyle they were already leading. I've met Buddhists and Hindus who had the same sense of balance in their lives. makes sense. But I've never met a strong True Believer whom I could describe using the word balance. Not one. Nor have I ever met a strong anti-belief activist or whiner whom I could apply that word to. As Vaj pointed out, the extremism of the points of view that *you* have expressed here on FFL reveals a great deal more about you than I think you realize. no problem. Thanks for the reply B. And thanks for not overreacting to it. I think you made a very valid point in that it's the over-identification with an external group that is the culprit in defining True Believerism and the sense of imbalance that most of us assoc- iate with it. I've always had an issue with anyone who, when asked to define themselves, comes up with the name of a group as their first response. I'm a meditator. I'm a Christian. I'm a Buddhist. I'm a Hindu. I'm a Republican. I'm a Democrat. I'm a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. (OK, the last one is better, because it displays a sense of humor.) As you may have gathered, I just don't DO groups any more. I'm a human being, who after 40+ years on the spiritual path, knows nothing for sure and does not ever expect or hope to. I hope that my sense of wonder and appreciation of the essential Mystery of life lasts as long as I do. And that declaration doesn't make me any better than anyone who identifies primarily with some group, but I think it does give me more of a fallback position. If Buddhism vanished from the world tomorrow, it would not affect me in any way. Out of all the spiritual traditions I have examined and studied, Buddhism floats my boat more than the others, but I am NOT a Buddhist in the sense that I consider either the practice of Buddhist principles a religion, or consider myself a member of any sangha or formal group. As the wise words Rick has included on the Fairfield Life home page from Robbie Robertson of The Band express, my feeling is that spiritual traditions offer us the opportunity to Take what you need and leave the rest. In a very real sense, I define my relationship to any of the spiritual traditions I have studied the same way that E.M. Forster defined his relation- ship to his native land, If I had to choose between betraying my country or my friend, I should hope I have the guts to betray my country. Similarly, if I am ever in the future (as I have been in the past) placed in a position of reject- ing the dogma of Buddhism or any of the other spiritual traditions I have studied or rejecting my own intuitive feelings about something, I should hope that I chuck the spiritual tradition in the shitter and not what I know to be right, right now, for me. I *understand* the importance that identification with a group has for many, if not most, people. It's just that I do not share their desire *for* that level of identification any more. It has served a purpose for me in the past, but now serves only to bind me, IMO. I am by nature a loner, a solitary seeker blazing his own trail through
[FairfieldLife] Confusing suutra-words: abhyaasa, part 1
The verbal root of the noun 'abhyaasa' is 'as'.
Not the verb 'as' which means 'to be' (asmi, asi, asti),
though, but that which means 'to throw'. Prefixed with
the preposition 'abhi', it (the verb) means for instance 'to
practise, repeat':
as, asyati 2 ({asati}), pp. {asta} (q.v.) throw, cast, shoot at [[,]]
(loc., dat., or gen.), with (instr.). --{apa} throw away, lay down,
doff, leave, give up. ***{abhi} (also {asati, -te}) throw, hurl; throw
one's self upon, take to, practise, study, read; repeat, double,
reduplicate (g.).***
In YS, that noun appears four times:
abhyaasavairaagyaabhyaaM tannirodhaH .. 12..
(abhyaasa-vairaagyaabhyaam; tat;nirodhaH)
tatra sthitau yatno 'bhyaasaH .. 13..
(tatra sthitau yatnaH; abhyaasaH)
viraamapratyayaabhyaasapuurvaH saMskaarasheSo 'nyaH .. 18..
(viraama-pratyaya-abhyaasa-puurvaH saMskaarasheSaH; anyaH)
tatpratiSedhaartham ekatattvaabhyaasaH .. 32..
(tat-pratiSedha-artham eka-tattva-abhyaasaH)
In BS, 'abhyaasa' seems to appear at least two times,
both times in the ablative singular case (from-case) form
'abhyaasaat' (~ abhyaas-aat)
aanandamayo 'bhyaasaat
(aananda-mayaH; abhyaasaat)
prakaashashca karmaNyabhyaasaat
(prakaashaH; ca karmaNi; abhyaasaat)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I *understand* the importance that identification with a group has for many, if not most, people. It's just that I do not share their desire *for* that level of identification any more. It has served a purpose for me in the past, but now serves only to bind me, IMO. I am by nature a loner, a solitary seeker blazing his own trail through the forest rather than following those blazed by others, and I'm happy with that. And I'll be happy with that even if blazing my own trail leaves me hopelessly lost, because it'll be *my* lost, and not someone else's. yeah.
[FairfieldLife] New Yffers badly needed!
http://tinyurl.com/5btrw5 The financial crisis spreading like wildfire across the former Soviet bloc threatens to set off a second and more dangerous banking crisis in Western Europe, tipping the whole Continent into a fully-fledged economic slump. Currency pegs are being tested to destruction on the fringes of Europe's monetary union in a traumatic upheaval that recalls the collapse of the Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992. This is the biggest currency crisis the world has ever seen, said Neil Mellor, a strategist at Bank of New York Mellon.
[FairfieldLife] Paradigm Shift
There is something I've noticed about FFL in the last few days that I also noticed about the election over the last few months. And I think they're related. One of the things this election was about was rejection on a large scale of trolling and name-calling. That was, after all, by the end of the campaign the Republicans' only strategy, in their speeches and in their ads. And it fell upon deaf ears. Or fell upon the ears of those who had just had it up to here with trolling and name-calling, and who walked to the polls and flung open the curtains of a voting booth and shouted (via a stylus or a pencil or their finger on a touchscreen), I'm mad as hell and I'm just not going to take this any more. The voting public *soundly* rejected trolling and name- calling. In some states, it changed front-runners to also-rans, and won the election for the opponent of the person who had resorted to them. A few of the trolls and name-callers' careers in politics are OVER as a result of what they said and did in this election. Sociologically, this was an important paradigm shift in the workings of American politics, and a reflection of a similar shift in the American people. And back here at home, on Fairfield Life, I think I'm seeing a similar paradigm shift. Many of those who have overreacted to trolls and name-callers on this forum are no longer doing so. They either turn deaf ears on them, or react to them with humor. If I'm right, and the nature of Fairfield Life *has* shifted a bit in a more positive direction, less recep- tive to and manipulatable by trolling and name-calling, I have a pretty good idea that the TM movement will try to take credit for it. It's because of the new pundits who just arrived in Fairfield. Whatever. Let them try to take the credit. I just apprec- iate the relative calm after a long voyage over stormy seas. It may not last, but it's pleasant while it does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
John wrote: Those companies had their chance to succeed. You voted for Barack Obama and now you are going to have to pay - the auto unions own Barack Obama; they could, if they wanted to, bring the whole country down to it's knees. I tried to warn you, Junior, but you went ahead and voted for a raise in taxes. But bailing out the unions is nothing compared to what you're going to have to pay for your new health care insurance. Don't screw with the auto unions - they got JFK and RFK, and they could get anyone who doesn't want to pay the bail out. Just try to remember that you get your food thanks to the unions and they will own all the fuel. Maybe you don't remember what it's like to have no food or fuel in the winter. Now you're going to have to plant a garden. 'Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy' by Jim Marrs Basic Books, 1993 http://tinyurl.com/6kxvcu
[FairfieldLife] Irrelevant
Thanks for the memories, but you were all completely Irrelevant during the historic victory that Barack Obama achieved during 2008 Presidential election. All your smears failed to change the course of history. PHOTOS: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/irrelevant
[FairfieldLife] An examination of the 3 most important women in the campaign
Since the issue of women, women's liberation, and women in politics has occupied a great deal of the back-and-forth on Fairfield Life in past months, I thought I should spend a few moments doing a retrospective of who I thought the three most important women in this political campaign were, and why. The first two are obvious -- Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. Their presence as strong contenders in this election was historic, and deserves to be recognized by history. The differences between these two women are obvious, and are deeper than just the planks in their respec- tive political parties. One cares deeply about the poor and the disenfranchised, and about other women, and the other cares about them...uh...not so much. But I'm more fascinated by the similarities between these two women, and how those similarities were both perceived by voters, and caused them to fail. The first was ambition, worn on their sleeves to an almost pathological level. When comedians on TV made fun of Hillary's zeal to be President, or Sarah's, *no one* in the audience had to be coerced into recognizing the accuracy of the satire, or into laughing at it. The other similarity was an overweaning sense of *entitlement*. Both felt *entitled* to the positions of power that they sought, just for being them. The sense that they felt that they *deserved* the offices they sought, and that they deserved them so much that anyone who stood in the way of them achieving them was attacking them personally just *screamed* from their body language and their spoken language. And it manifested in other ways, most notably the ways in which they reacted to criticism of themselves in the press. Such criticism was almost always viewed as an attack, and unfair, and themselves viewed as the victims of that attack. Whereas when *they* attacked, that was seemingly viewed as justified, given how deserving they were of the offices they sought, and how much less deserving their opponents were. And they're both history, although both will do their best to keep from becoming history, and will follow that sense of entitlement in the future as far as the public will allow them to take it. But the third most important woman in this election is Tina Fey. And she presents a very different picture of what it is to be a strong, self-sufficient woman, and a very different role model for other women who are looking for one. Tina's sendups of Sarah Palin on SNL were arguably one of the most important factors in deciding the election. But that's the least of what she is. Tina is a triple Emmy Award winner from 30 Rock, a TV series that she conceived of, produced with Lorne Michaels, writes much of the comedy for, and stars in. Her role on that show is very much like her role in real life -- a strong, self-sufficient and talented woman who is at the same time subject to the same self-doubts and fears that plague all of us. On that show she (and her costars, most notably Alec Baldwin) take self-deprecation of their real- life images and turn it into an art form, one that they can take to the bank because it strikes a resonance with so many viewers. I don't actually know what Tina Fey's politics are. I can suspect, but I don't think I've ever seen her talk about them. She doesn't have to; that's not her job. Her job is much more noble than politics -- she is a clown, someone whose job is to help other people on this planet to laugh. And like Charlie Chaplin, that places her on a higher level than any politician. Also, she doesn't have to talk about what she believes because *she lives it*. Her life and her accomplishments speak more loudly about who she is and what she believes about the role of women in society than anything she could say. If I were the father of a daughter (and in a way I will be a de facto parent soon, because my best friend here is pregnant with a daughter named Maya, whom I hope to have a hand in raising), when it comes times to share with her some of the little I have learned, as a man, about what it is to be a strong, self-sufficient, and happy woman, I would not direct her attention to either Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin. On the other hand, I might save recordings of 30 Rock and of Tina Fey's recent appearances on Saturday Night Live, and play them for her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Don't know. Why don't you ask the Turq or Vaj, our local FFL Buddhists ? They seem to hate the Raja Crowns so I suppose they have info on why the Buddhists hats are s much more meaningful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Buddhists make Raja Crowns look simple and dignified ! Ooooh, this one's hawt. I'll take everything *underneath* the hat, please. King me, Jingme! I concur! I get first dibs... (He's 28, and a bachelor, according to the captions. Check out photo #11 too. Whew.) I've heard the ladies there are truly beautiful also. And they don't wear funny Buddhists hats with birds and skulls !
[FairfieldLife] Late Night- Chuckles
Attention passengers: The Straight Talk Express is no longer in service. ... Barack Obama is our new president. I think I speak for everybody when I say, 'Anybody mind if he starts a little early?' ... At the end of the night, the electoral vote count was 349 for Obama, 148 for McCain. Or as Fox News says: 'too close to call.' ---David Letterman People were worried about the Bradley effect. Apparently, it was not nearly as strong as the Bush effect. ---Jay Leno You know who I blame? The Large Hadron Collider. It is the world's largest and highest particle accelerator. You may remember we were warned that it could create a black hole and destroy the Earth. Consider this: it launched in mid-September, when John McCain was leading in the polls. I believe it jolted us into a parallel universe that was exactly like our own, only Barack Obama is president and the Phillies are world champions. ---Stephen Colbert Yesterday, first lady Laura Bush called Michelle Obama and invited her and her young daughters to the White House. Laura Bush told Mrs. Obama, 'While I give you a tour, the girls can watch SpongeBob with the president.' ---Conan O'Brien We're all very happy except Sean Hannity, who is too busy in the bathroom crying. ---Fox News's Chris Wallace on The Daily Show People all over the world are celebrating Obama's victory. Sarah Palin watched the Russians celebrating from her house. ... Sen. John McCain's concession speech was beautiful. It was dignified, and it was classy. And I think the reason for that is he didn't let Palin say anything. ---Craig Ferguson President Bush called Barack Obama to congratulate him. ... Obama thanked Bush for his call and for all he did to help Obama get elected. ---Jimmy Kimmel But right about now Joe the plumber is meeting with his transition team. They're going to help ease him from obscurity back to oblivion. ---David Letterman via: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/7/10460/0942/311/656673
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
snip So far they are doing very well indeed. Without their efforts the coherence-creating groups in Fairfield would not have created such dramatic changes in the collective consciousness of the Most creative country of the world to be able to elect a black, progressive President. I know! Maybe Obama would like a meeting with one of the African American Rajas? I'm sure the Raja for Africa itself must be African right? OH...well maybe he can just meet with some other African American leader in the movementwhat's that? OH...well...I guess not then. Maharishi represented a tradition which was as interested in keeping all darker colored skinned people in their place, in the lowest castes of India. He was famous for overlooking devoted African American for positions of power in the movement. He has the same deep rooted prejudices about people as any 20th century plantation owner. The election of Obama is because society has rejected the racist and class imprisoning caste system supported by Maharishi and his fey teacher. It took the organizing power of Maharishi and the Rajas to transform the USA. With the full blessings of the Masters of Wisdom including Maitreya. But it was Maharishi Himself through His inexhaustable energy who, without for a second recognizing the opposition to this cosmic endeavor, executed the Divine Plan for mankind in this Age. Now that Maharishi is resting Maitreya will very soon be be seen publically. Very soon TM-Sidhas will float more or less permanently in the air, as they have done sporadically and spontaneously since 1977, myself included. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 to enlightenment. I think we will do better. - Maharishi, Buddha Yayanti, The River Rhine, Germany, May 1982
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Don't know. Why don't you ask the Turq or Vaj, our local FFL Buddhists ? They seem to hate the Raja Crowns so I suppose they have info on why the Buddhists hats are s much more meaningful. It's not a woodpecker but a raven, symbolic of the national deity of Bhutan. The modern Raven Crown of Bhutan has partly secular and partly spiritual significance. As funny hats go, this one's pretty neat, if you ask me. For more see: http://www.yanatravel.com/2008/bhutan-culture/the-raven-crown-origin- and-symbolism.html http://tinyurl.com/5nabg2
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: the fact remains that Proposition 8 passed. If you really want to fight this out, you can sue the state of California in the courts. I believe it will eventually be resolved in the US Supreme Court in favor of Constitutional equal right for everyone. The process has already begun. There was a time when bigots like you were also against inter-racial marriage. I'd be curious to see a breakdown of civil rights that have been protected via votes and civil rights that have been protected via court orders. For example, it took a combination of Constitutional amendments and legislation to give African-Americans the vote. Women got the vote via Constitutional amendment alone. What about sex ordinances - states used to have all sorts of laws proscribing sex practices. Did those go away via legislation, or were they found unconstitutional? And inter-racial marriage - that must have been found Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)[1], was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the Racial Integrity Act of 1924, unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia That's one example. Thanks! For all the time we in this forum spend poking holes in Maharishi's teachings, I've yet to abandon his theory of there being such a thing as collective consciousness. (It helps that Jung, Campbell and others promote the same idea.) Because I believe in collective consciousness, I believe this nascent movement to make gay marriage legal is an expression of the life force that arises from consciousness. (That, as opposed to gay marriage being an evil force that's attacking the purity of life the way heat is drawn to cold, which is another (less propounded) teaching of MMY.) Proposition 8 passed in California. Gay marriage is illegal there, and in what - 49 other states? So obviously collective consciousness is not ripe for gay marriage. But I have to think gay marriage is a generation away from being accepted. Maybe two generations. It won't go away. Sometimes collective consciousness expresses itself via legislation, sometimes via Constitutional amendments (which are voted upon by the public), and sometimes via court decisions. I imagine it's more likely that gay marriage will be legalized via court decisions before it's legalized via votes. Conservatives hate it when courts decree social changes. They've wanted such things as equal rights for minorities and freedom of choice for pregnant women to be granted, if they are to be granted at all, by popular vote, rather than by court decree. I can see their point. But I also see an irony here. Conservatives tend to be more authority-oriented than progressives. That is, conservatives have been found to be more inclined than others to give orders or take orders, one or the other. Yet when it comes to social change, they resent taking orders from courts. I guess this is where higher authorities come in, such as church teachings and their own revulsion at the thought of butt sex. When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life.
[FairfieldLife] Confusing suutra-words: abhyaasa, part 2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The verbal root of the noun 'abhyaasa' is 'as'.
Not the verb 'as' which means 'to be' (asmi, asi, asti),
though, but that which means 'to throw'. Prefixed with
the preposition 'abhi', it (the verb) means for instance 'to
practise, repeat':
as, asyati2 ({asati}), pp. {asta} (q.v.) throw, cast, shoot at [[,]]
(loc., dat., or gen.), with (instr.). --{apa} throw away, lay down,
doff, leave, give up. ***{abhi} (also {asati, -te}) throw, hurl; throw
one's self upon, take to, practise, study, read; repeat, double,
reduplicate (g.).***
In YS, that noun appears four times:
abhyaasavairaagyaabhyaaM tannirodhaH .. 12..
(abhyaasa-vairaagyaabhyaam; tat;nirodhaH)
Swamij's translation (with improved transliteration by
Shriink Kardemaister):
1.12 These thought patterns (vRttis) are mastered (nirodhah,
regulated, coordinated, controlled, stilled, quieted) through practice
(abhyaasa) and non-attachment (vairaagya).
(abhyaasa-vairaagyaabhyaaM tannirodhah)
---
Grammatical notes: the compound 'abhyaasa-vairaagyaabhyaam'
is a dvandva-samaasa of two(2) components, thus, the inflectional
ending -bhyaam is that of a dual word (i.e. not singular or plural).
In Sanskrit dual noun inflection, the cases instrumental (e.g. 'by',
'with' and stuff), dative (e.g. 'for') and ablative (e.g. 'from')
are identical in form, all having the same ending '-bhyaam'.
In the case of the above suutra it seems like 'abhyaasa-
vairaagyaabhyaam' should be thought of as being an instance of
the instrumental case, and thus the combination, so to speak,
of the singular inflectional forms 'abhyaasena' and 'vairaagyena', in
the above translation expressed using English preposition 'through'.
So, the word 'abhyaasa' in that connection seems to be best
translated to 'practice'. As we might, hopefully, later see ,
that might not necessarily be teh best translation in the rest
of the suutras scrutinized(?) in this series of articles, not even
in the YS! :0
Don't read more:
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life. You're on a roll with well-considered, well-written statements lately, Patrick, and this whole post was one of them. But the above paragraph, and especially its punchline, just nails it. WWJD, indeed. If you believe that he would have reacted with the same revulsion you feel, or with violence, then how much more evolved than you are do you really think he was? You know you've created God in your own image when |he hates the exact same people that you do. - Gordon Charrick
[FairfieldLife] You need a hominem for an ad hominem
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081108/D94AO3T80.html As for the vice presidential campaign, Palin denounced criticism from unidentified McCain campaign aides as cowardly. She said she found it frustrating trying to respond to false allegations when she didn't know who was making them. It's ridiculous, she told reporters. You guys report based on anonymous sources, so it's hard to have a defense. Very telling. Very Palin. She can't pull her usual attacks on the person and is left with the actual content of the charge. Charge: Palin thought Africa was a country and South Africa was the best place in the country for corn dogs. Way to answer without being able to attack the accuser: Rattle off a few African countries and their struggles like Darfur as Shemp claims she is wy up on being a messianic cannibalist and all. Note to Sarah: I too would like to see one of your accusers get hammered on by an O'reilly or two in the press, and I suspect in time we will. But you don't need a person to attack personally to refute specific charges. You just need to contradict them in detail by say, naming even 5 countries in Africa and I won't even make you tell me who their leader is. You could easily demonstrate your knowledge if you had any. Fair enough? What's that? Your accuser is palling around with terrorists? I don't think that is gunna get you by again, but nice try.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. UnElectable just won...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ With Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, no one will be able to run for Congress without kissing some serious Obama butt. Rahm is founder of the DCCC and an old hand at recruiting candidates, raising funds, and organizing races. If you don't play ball with Rahm, you don't play. DO NOT LIKE. Aside from some snarkiness about Obama throwing progressives under the bus with his choice of Rahm Emanuel, I would think the PUMAcrats would otherwise be delighted that such an important member of the Clinton machine is being brought on board in such high-ranking capacity. What am I missing here?
[FairfieldLife] Book recommendation: The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid
Iowans, American Baby Boomers and Bill Bryson fans will want to read or listen to his memoir, The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid. He writes about growing up on Des Moines in the 1950s and early '60s. In addition to the other humorists to which he's compared below - Garrison Keillor and Dave Barry among them - I have to add James Thurber. It's good stuff. I'm listening to him read the book. His accent is a mix of the hard R's of the Midwest with the soft vowels he picked up upon living in England for 20 years. The two accents curdle, like pouring lemon juice into milk, and the effect adds to the humor. Humor also arises from juxtaposing outrageous exaggerations with British understatement. Here's the blurb from the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/4w6o8m Bill Bryson was born in the middle of the American century1951in the middle of the United StatesDes Moines, Iowain the middle of the largest generation in American historythe baby boomers. As one of the best and funniest writers alive, he is perfectly positioned to mine his memories of a totally all-American childhood for 24-carat memoir gold. Like millions of his generational peers, Bill Bryson grew up with a rich fantasy life as a superhero. In his case, he ran around his house and neighborhood with an old football jersey with a thunderbolt on it and a towel about his neck that served as his cape, leaping tall buildings in a single bound and vanquishing awful evildoers (and morons)in his headas The Thunderbolt Kid. Using this persona as a springboard, Bill Bryson re-creates the life of his family and his native city in the 1950s in all its transcendent normalitya life at once completely familiar to us all and as far away and unreachable as another galaxy. It was, he reminds us, a happy time, when automobiles and televisions and appliances (not to mention nuclear weapons) grew larger and more numerous with each passing year, and DDT, cigarettes, and the fallout from atmospheric testing were considered harmless or even good for you. He brings us into the life of his loving but eccentric family, including affectionate portraits of his father, a gifted sportswriter for the local paper and dedicated practitioner of isometric exercises, and OF his mother, whose job as the home furnishing editor for the same paper left her little time for practicing the domestic arts at home. The many readers of Bill Bryson's earlier classic, A Walk in the Woods, will greet the reappearance in these pages of the immortal Stephen Katz, seen hijacking literally boxcar loads of beer. He is joined in the Bryson gallery of immortal characters by the demonically clever Willoughby brothers, who apply their scientific skills and can-do attitude to gleefully destructive ends. Warm and laugh-out-loud funny, and full of his inimitable, pitch-perfect observations, The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid is as wondrous a book as Bill Bryson has ever written. It will enchant anyone who has ever been young. Praise Bill Bryson's laugh-out-loud pilgrimage through his Fifties childhood in heartland America is a national treasure. It's full of insights, wit, and wicked adolescent fantasies. Tom Brokaw Bryson is unparalleled in his ability to cut a culture off at the knees in a way that is so humorous and so affectionate that those being ridiculed are laughing too hard to take offense. The Wall Street Journal A cross between de Tocqueville and Dave Barry, Bryson writes about America in a way that's both trenchantly observant and pound-on-the-floor, snort-root-beer-out-of-your-nose funny. San Franciso Examiner Bill Bryson could write an essay about dryer lint or fever reducers and still make us laugh out loud. Chicago Sun-Times Bryson is great company a lumbering, droll, neatnik intellectual who comes off as equal parts Garrison Keillor, Michael Kinsley, and Dave Barry. http://tinyurl.com/4w6o8m
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Don't know. Why don't you ask the Turq or Vaj, our local FFL Buddhists ? They seem to hate the Raja Crowns so I suppose they have info on why the Buddhists hats are s much more meaningful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOmB1q8W4Y It's not the hat. It's what you've done to deserve to wear it. I'm not surprized that this minion Turq challenge His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His right to declare someone a Raja in the domain of consciousness since his hate of the Shankaracharya Tradition makes his inherent restrictions believe everything They do to be automatically phony. The future of the Rajas does not depend on the dislikes/likes of wannabe Buddhists like the Turq or Vaj, but on their achievements in the domain of consciousness. So far they are doing very well indeed. Without their efforts the coherence-creating groups in Fairfield would not have created such dramatic changes in the collective consciousness of the Most creative country of the world to be able to elect a black, progressive President. It took the organizing power of Maharishi and the Rajas to transform the USA. With the full blessings of the Masters of Wisdom including Maitreya. But it was Maharishi Himself through His inexhaustable energy who, without for a second recognizing the opposition to this cosmic endeavor, executed the Divine Plan for mankind in this Age. Now that Maharishi is resting Maitreya will very soon be be seen publically. Very soon TM-Sidhas will float more or less permanently in the air, as they have done sporadically and spontaneously since 1977, myself included. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 to enlightenment. I think we will do better. - Maharishi, Buddha Yayanti, The River Rhine, Germany, May 1982
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life. Yeah but remember what Kung Fu's Cain said to the Amish dude who was getting pushed around when he told Cain that he couldn't be violent and defend himself against the guy hitting him with a stick by picking up a stick of his own? Cain said in his Quaalude slow voice: Yes, but you can take the stick! I don't believe that Jung and Campbell's formulation of collective consciousness shares more than just a similar name with Maharishi's. Especially Campbell's. Jung had a little more woo woo going in the direction of Maharishi perhaps. Oh, yeah, and I agree with Turq that you have been laying down some very interesting writing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: the fact remains that Proposition 8 passed. If you really want to fight this out, you can sue the state of California in the courts. I believe it will eventually be resolved in the US Supreme Court in favor of Constitutional equal right for everyone. The process has already begun. There was a time when bigots like you were also against inter-racial marriage. I'd be curious to see a breakdown of civil rights that have been protected via votes and civil rights that have been protected via court orders. For example, it took a combination of Constitutional amendments and legislation to give African-Americans the vote. Women got the vote via Constitutional amendment alone. What about sex ordinances - states used to have all sorts of laws proscribing sex practices. Did those go away via legislation, or were they found unconstitutional? And inter-racial marriage - that must have been found Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)[1], was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the Racial Integrity Act of 1924, unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia That's one example. Thanks! For all the time we in this forum spend poking holes in Maharishi's teachings, I've yet to abandon his theory of there being such a thing as collective consciousness. (It helps that Jung, Campbell and others promote the same idea.) Because I believe in collective consciousness, I believe this nascent movement to make gay marriage legal is an expression of the life force that arises from consciousness. (That, as opposed to gay marriage being an evil force that's attacking the purity of life the way heat is drawn to cold, which is another (less propounded) teaching of MMY.) Proposition 8 passed in California. Gay marriage is illegal there, and in what - 49 other states? So obviously collective consciousness is not ripe for gay marriage. But I have to think gay marriage is a generation away from being accepted. Maybe two generations. It won't go away. Sometimes collective consciousness expresses itself via legislation, sometimes via Constitutional amendments (which are voted upon by the public), and sometimes via court decisions. I imagine it's more likely that gay marriage will be legalized via court decisions before it's legalized via votes. Conservatives hate it when courts decree social changes. They've wanted such things as equal rights for minorities and freedom of choice for pregnant women to be granted, if they are to be granted at all, by popular vote, rather than by court decree. I can see their point. But I also see an irony here. Conservatives tend to be more authority-oriented than progressives. That is, conservatives have been found to be more inclined than others to give orders or take orders, one or the other. Yet when it comes to social change, they resent taking orders from courts. I guess this is where higher authorities come in, such as church teachings and their own revulsion at the thought of butt sex.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Don't know. Why don't you ask the Turq or Vaj, our local FFL Buddhists ? They seem to hate the Raja Crowns so I suppose they have info on why the Buddhists hats are s much more meaningful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOmB1q8W4Y It's not the hat. It's what you've done to deserve to wear it. Just as wearing a hat that says Lion Tamer on it doesn't make you a lion tamer, paying a million dollars for the right to wear a Raja's hat doesn't make you a Raja.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you actually believe that Nabby's obvious hatred of things Buddhist (something he is repeating as rote from the Shankaracharya trad- ition) is *balanced*? nabby strikes me as a pretty religous person. dawn; whats wrong with that ? I don't hate Buddhism, quite the contrary it is the religion which is the closests to Maharishi and Mr. Creme. Maharishi always spoke very fondly of The Buddha and obviously held Him in high regard. And the Guru's of countless initiates within Tesosophy are Buddhists. But it amuses me that this religion, like all the other organized religions, have lost the ability to give their followers a direct experience of Being. So overwhelmingly evidenced by the hateful posts against the TMO by Buddhists like Vaj and the Turq. It is only when this Turq-fellow again and again seek to trash the TMO and the way the Rajas are dressing by pointing out that they in fact wear golden crowns I take the liberty to show a few examples of what Bhuddhists actually put on top of their heads. Like this one: Enjoy ! [ BHUTAN]
[FairfieldLife] What went wrong?
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[FairfieldLife] Zionist Rahm Emanuel
shempmcgurk wrote: Oh, Gosh, Bob...are you saying that the Republicans' dire warnings about Barack's associations with the terrorist Bill Ayers is coming true? William Ayers - Obama said Ayers was just a guy in my neighborhood. An Obama campaign spokesman said Obama hadn't e-mailed with or spoken by phone to Ayers since January 2005 , suggesting more than three years of communications - in a post-9/11 climate - after Ayers said publicly he had not done enough bombing?
[FairfieldLife] Colbert on the election
Hagelin says levitators in iowa are the reason Obama won, but I think Colbert's analysis makes more sense: You know who I blame? The Large Hadron Collider. It is the world's largest and highest particle accelerator. You may remember we were warned that it could create a black hole and destroy the Earth. Consider this: it launched in mid-September, when John McCain was leading in the polls. I believe it jolted us into a parallel universe that was exactly like our own, only Barack Obama is president and the Phillies are world champions. ---Stephen Colbert
[FairfieldLife] Re: An examination of the 3 most important women in the campaign
It's interesting that Barry singles out ambition and a sense of entitlement to criticize as he evaluates the role of the women in the presidential campaign. I can't think of a single candidate for president or vice-president since I've been aware of politics who hasn't manifested both traits. And some of them were vastly less qualified than Hillary, and barely, if at all, more qualified than Palin. Yet Barry concludes that Hillary and Sarah Palin are both history because they demonstrated these traits as well. Can it be that in Barry's mind it's *not OK* for women to be ambitious and to feel entitled to whatever office they're seeking, whereas it's perfectly fine for men? Enquiring minds... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the issue of women, women's liberation, and women in politics has occupied a great deal of the back-and-forth on Fairfield Life in past months, I thought I should spend a few moments doing a retrospective of who I thought the three most important women in this political campaign were, and why. The first two are obvious -- Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. Their presence as strong contenders in this election was historic, and deserves to be recognized by history. The differences between these two women are obvious, and are deeper than just the planks in their respec- tive political parties. One cares deeply about the poor and the disenfranchised, and about other women, and the other cares about them...uh...not so much. But I'm more fascinated by the similarities between these two women, and how those similarities were both perceived by voters, and caused them to fail. The first was ambition, worn on their sleeves to an almost pathological level. When comedians on TV made fun of Hillary's zeal to be President, or Sarah's, *no one* in the audience had to be coerced into recognizing the accuracy of the satire, or into laughing at it. The other similarity was an overweaning sense of *entitlement*. Both felt *entitled* to the positions of power that they sought, just for being them. The sense that they felt that they *deserved* the offices they sought, and that they deserved them so much that anyone who stood in the way of them achieving them was attacking them personally just *screamed* from their body language and their spoken language. And it manifested in other ways, most notably the ways in which they reacted to criticism of themselves in the press. Such criticism was almost always viewed as an attack, and unfair, and themselves viewed as the victims of that attack. Whereas when *they* attacked, that was seemingly viewed as justified, given how deserving they were of the offices they sought, and how much less deserving their opponents were. And they're both history, although both will do their best to keep from becoming history, and will follow that sense of entitlement in the future as far as the public will allow them to take it. But the third most important woman in this election is Tina Fey. And she presents a very different picture of what it is to be a strong, self-sufficient woman, and a very different role model for other women who are looking for one. Tina's sendups of Sarah Palin on SNL were arguably one of the most important factors in deciding the election. But that's the least of what she is. Tina is a triple Emmy Award winner from 30 Rock, a TV series that she conceived of, produced with Lorne Michaels, writes much of the comedy for, and stars in. Her role on that show is very much like her role in real life -- a strong, self-sufficient and talented woman who is at the same time subject to the same self-doubts and fears that plague all of us. On that show she (and her costars, most notably Alec Baldwin) take self-deprecation of their real- life images and turn it into an art form, one that they can take to the bank because it strikes a resonance with so many viewers. I don't actually know what Tina Fey's politics are. I can suspect, but I don't think I've ever seen her talk about them. She doesn't have to; that's not her job. Her job is much more noble than politics -- she is a clown, someone whose job is to help other people on this planet to laugh. And like Charlie Chaplin, that places her on a higher level than any politician. Also, she doesn't have to talk about what she believes because *she lives it*. Her life and her accomplishments speak more loudly about who she is and what she believes about the role of women in society than anything she could say. If I were the father of a daughter (and in a way I will be a de facto parent soon, because my best friend here is pregnant with a daughter named Maya, whom I hope to have a hand in raising), when it comes times to share with her some of the little I have learned, as a man, about what it is to be a strong, self-sufficient, and happy woman, I would
Re: [FairfieldLife] You need a hominem for an ad hominem
Curtis wrote: Rattle off a few African countries and their struggles like Darfur as Shemp claims she is wy up on being a messianic cannibalist and all. So, you're saying that the people in Darfur are messianic cannibalists and that Sarah Palin knows all about them. Do you have any evidence that cannibalists are operating in Darfur? Are their any Muslims in Darfur?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So far they are doing very well indeed. Without their efforts the coherence-creating groups in Fairfield would not have created such dramatic changes in the collective consciousness of the Most creative country of the world to be able to elect a black, progressive President. I know! Maybe Obama would like a meeting with one of the African American Rajas? I'm sure the Raja for Africa itself must be African right? OH...well maybe he can just meet with some other African American leader in the movementwhat's that? OH...well...I guess not then. Thanks for posting this curtis. Your post reminds me how utterly foolish any attempt of posting anything about knowledge is on FFL. My respect goes to Bob Brigante who ignores fools like you and year after year posts Knowledge anyway. It also reminds me of Maharishis words Damn democracy. When retards like you, comitted to playing hillbilly-music in bars for others of your white-trash-race, AND have the ability to vote. I say this is scary ! Your favorite idiot Bush did not get elected this time around, but just the simple fact that retarded hillbillies like yourself are able to vote on such an important issue makes me say: Damn democracy !
[FairfieldLife] Re: OffKilter, choose one boat please AND THEN STAY IN THAT BOAT
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, what a nutjob you are Shemp. I said way back in the very beginning before anyone here was even talking about Ron Paul, that if I couldn't have Ron Paul then I'll take Obama. ...and I said way back in the very beginning that the two men are, philosophically, the polar oppositises of each other. It's not the point when and if it was before anyone else that you supported Obama but that it doesn't make any sense from a philosophical or core belief system point of view. I am not going to dig up the post for you, but I said it clearly in several posts many nmonths, maybe a year ago. I take your word on it. Ron Paul was for Afghanistan intervention and against the Iraq war from the start. The most important issue of our time. Obama was for Afghanistan intervention and against the Iraq war from the start. The most important issue of our time. Yes, and this is what they had in common. And, certainly, that was your motivating factor in supporting Paul and you're to be commended on it. But even that is not in common between the two men today. During the campaigns (both primary and presidential) Obama was pushed so much to the right on this issue that he is now pretty much the same as John McCain as far as Iraq is concerned (and, some would argue, MORE to the right of McCain as far as Afghanistan is concerned) that he is very, very different from Ron Paul on this issue. You, Shemp, were for all wars at all times. Whether I am or not is not the point; it is YOUR stance that I brought up. You now nothing about Ron Paul, and you are further from Ron Paul in your ideology than hitler is from mother theresa. Well, now you're just parroting me in my criticism of you. I've already done this exercise with you: I am a free marketer, a libertarian-type. So is Ron Paul. He writes for LewRockwell (over 400 columns over the years) which is the primary Austrian Economics website in existance. Rockwell used to work for Paul as one of his aides in Congress, I believe. Although I don't believe in 100% of what they stand for (what philosophy or political party does?), this philosophy is most reflective of who I am and what I believe in. Rest assured that Paul is the POLAR OPPOSITE of Obama in practically all things. You are making a fool of yourself and just showing what an angry old Neocon and hate-filled man you are. I am not interested in your opinion because you do not remotely understand any of the issues, as practically everyone here has attested to at one time or another. Its not worth arguing with you because you have zero understanding. The most imporrtant issue Dr. Paul declared was the Iraq war and failed foreign policy. Identical to Obama. The operative word there is was...Obama's stance WAS identical to Paul's...not any more. Lol..Obama kicked your redneck ass...and now you are trying to bring up some other bullshit. Obama is with me on almost every issue, so is Ron Paul. Sigh. Okay, if you say so. You don't remotely understand Ron Paul or Obama. They are almost identical in the things that matter. You are an idiot. I am not debating with an idiot like you anymore Shemp, so your pathetic attempt to avoid your MASSIVE defeat What massive defeat? Just because I didn't support Obama, why do you automatically assume that I supported McCain. Sure, if I had a choice between the two of them, I prefer McCain. But, as I've said countless times on this forum, I can't stand the guy. McCain is much, much closer to Obama and liberalism than you realize. You see, I'm consistent: I don't switch philosophies like a fair- weather friend. in the election with bullshit strawman attacks that you spent that last 3 days concocting in your lonely insane world, just so you could cut and paste them all to your sworn enemies her on FFL --- is pathetic, and is going nowhere. Find some other fool to try your childish hissy fits on. Goodbye Magoo. Off World --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: It was one thing to have suffered your getting on the Ron Paul bandwagon and regaling us everyday with your newfound messiah for months upon months. Unlike you, I've been reading and familiar with Ron Paul for years. Many conservative/libertarians/capitalist-anarchists are. What irked me then was that -- except for the Iraq issue -- pretty much everything YOU stood for was in direct opposition to pretty much everything Dr. Paul stood for. I documented all of that pretty well and then had to also suffer through your blathering and blood- pressure conniption fits that someone would dare question you on it. And now -- NOW! -- you've got on the Barack Obama bandwagon. Again,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. UnElectable just won...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ With Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, no one will be able to run for Congress without kissing some serious Obama butt. Rahm is founder of the DCCC and an old hand at recruiting candidates, raising funds, and organizing races. If you don't play ball with Rahm, you don't play. DO NOT LIKE. Aside from some snarkiness about Obama throwing progressives under the bus with his choice of Rahm Emanuel, I would think the PUMAcrats would otherwise be delighted that such an important member of the Clinton machine is being brought on board in such high-ranking capacity. What am I missing here? Well, first, what exactly is your definition of PUMAcrat? If you think it's a general term that applies to anyone who supported Hillary and didn't support Obama, you've got another think coming. And second, what on *earth* makes you think that having been a Hillary supporter means that one mindlessly approves of anyone who ever worked for Bill Clinton? That seems kind of insulting, Alex, and not like you. I've never liked Rahm Emanuel. Goodness knows Obama needs someone who knows where the levers of power are and how to work them. But Emanuel hardly seems to embody Obama's endless promotion of the notions of bipartisanship and cooperation. Emanuel doesn't just have sharp elbows, he's got machetes for arm joints.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip So far they are doing very well indeed. Without their efforts the coherence-creating groups in Fairfield would not have created such dramatic changes in the collective consciousness of the Most creative country of the world to be able to elect a black, progressive President. I know! Maybe Obama would like a meeting with one of the African American Rajas? I'm sure the Raja for Africa itself must be African right? OH...well maybe he can just meet with some other African American leader in the movementwhat's that? OH...well...I guess not then. Thanks for posting this curtis. Your post reminds me how utterly foolish any attempt of posting anything about knowledge is on FFL. My respect goes to Bob Brigante who ignores fools like you and year after year posts Knowledge anyway. It also reminds me of Maharishis words Damn democracy. When retards like you, comitted to playing hillbilly-music in bars for others of your white-trash-race, AND have the ability to vote. I say this is scary ! Your favorite idiot Bush did not get elected this time around, but just the simple fact that retarded hillbillies like yourself are able to vote on such an important issue makes me say: Damn democracy ! Nabby, you forgot to add, ...and you're a pooh-pooh head. That would have closed the sale.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. UnElectable just won...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ With Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, no one will be able to run for Congress without kissing some serious Obama butt. Rahm is founder of the DCCC and an old hand at recruiting candidates, raising funds, and organizing races. If you don't play ball with Rahm, you don't play. What am I missing here? That we are entering the age of Ra(h)m Raj, obviously.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If I'm right, and the nature of Fairfield Life *has* shifted a bit in a more positive direction, less recep- tive to and manipulatable by trolling and name-calling Note that Barry excludes from the ranks of name-callers the folks who call those with whom they disagree trolls.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Do you actually believe that Nabby's obvious hatred of things Buddhist (something he is repeating as rote from the Shankaracharya trad- ition) is *balanced*? nabby strikes me as a pretty religous person. dawn; whats wrong with that ? I don't hate Buddhism, quite the contrary it is the religion which is the closests to Maharishi and Mr. Creme. Maharishi always spoke very fondly of The Buddha and obviously held Him in high regard. And the Guru's of countless initiates within Tesosophy are Buddhists. But it amuses me that this religion, like all the other organized religions, have lost the ability to give their followers a direct experience of Being. So overwhelmingly evidenced by the hateful posts against the TMO by Buddhists like Vaj and the Turq. It is only when this Turq-fellow again and again seek to trash the TMO and the way the Rajas are dressing by pointing out that they in fact wear golden crowns I take the liberty to show a few examples of what Bhuddhists actually put on top of their heads. Like this one: Enjoy ! [ BHUTAN]Photo 1 of 2 E-Mail Picture Next http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/slideshow/msid-3681008.cms?imw=460
[FairfieldLife] My definition of being Pro-American
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhairitu wrote: [snip] The American car companies have nothing for me. And at the moment neither does Subaru. And BTW my Subaru WAS built in the US. Most of your stuff was bought un-American and you drive a car made in Asia, but I wouldn't be caught dead driving a little forign car with a funny name on it. If I wanted to, I could buy a Toyota Tundra just like the one Sarah Palin drives, made right here in San Antonio, but that's a non-union shop. [snip] Richard, I can't think of anything less American and less patriotic than purchasing a car just because it's American. Let me explain. To me, being pro-American means being a practitioner and supporter of the free market. That means that you don't buy products and services based upon the racial, ethnic or national origin of the owners of a company or where a corporation's head office may be situated. No, being pro-American means practicing and being a participant in one of the core values of America: the free market. And that means buying products and services based upon quality and price. And if bloated SUV-manufacturing, Hummer-producing gas-guzzling Detroit can't compete with the more efficient, less expensive Japanese and Korean models, then so be it. Being pro-American means putting your money where your mouth is. Indeed, your buy-only-American-cars diatribe, Richard, puts you in the same camp as he who is most reviled by the so-called pro- Americans: the much-hated Michael Moore, whose first film Roger and me put forward the very same premise that you do, above. Moore, too, is against the free market. Like you, he also wants inefficient American plants ear-marked for closure to stay open so that they can continue to churn out more expensive, lower-quality models that Americans should be required to purchase under a misguided obligation to reward inefficient enterprises simply because of their nationality. Example: two cars, equal in quality, side-by-side. Car A is made in America by a so-called American company. Car B is made in Japan by a Japanese company. Car A is one dollar more than Car B. Which one would I buy? All things being equal -- which they are in terms of quality -- I would buy Car B because it is less expensive than Car A. I can take that dollar I save and spend it on chewing gum or a coke or something else that will give me value...AND TO HELL WITH THE UAW WORKERS AND THE GMC STOCK-HOLDERS WHO WORKED FOR AND SUPPORTED A COMPANY THAT COULDN'T COMPETE! And I care not a whittle how many jobs are lost or how negatively my decision may hurt the economy because the $25,000 from my purchase is going into Japanese pockets instead of American pockets. That's what being pro-American is.
[FairfieldLife] I gotta admit, my twisted little mind is enjoying every last minute of this...(and you are too, c'mon, admit it!) :)
Palin in spotlight as Republicans turn on each otherRight tears itself apart in pinning blame for McCain's defeatOliver Burkemanin Washingtonguardian.co.uk, Saturday November 8 2008 00.01 GMTThe Guardian,Saturday November 8 2008larger|smallerAs the implosion of the defeated Republican campaign continued yesterday, the landscape of American conservatism was dotted with signs that these were very strange times indeed.Rush Limbaugh, behemoth of rightwing radio, took to the airwaves to declare war on two enemies: Barack Obama and the Republican party. Bloggers at FreeRepublic.com, an internet hub for conservatives, announced a boycott of Fox News and John McCain's aides fell over one another to leak embarrassing details about the campaign to the press.Liberals, indulging in what the writer Andrew Sullivan termed "Palinfreude", were presented with a smorgasbord, ranging from the tale of how McCain's pro-Palin foreign policy adviser had his Blackberry confiscated in the closing days of the race, to how the party had paid for Todd Palin's silk boxer shorts.The fighting consuming the McCain and Palin camps threatened to derail broader efforts to overhaul the Republican party after Tuesday's decisive defeat, for which some insiders blamed Sarah Palin. Veterans of the right gathered in the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, on Thursday for a summit on the movement's future, but even as they did so, the blame went on."Ladies and gentlemen, it is worse than I thought," Limbaugh told listeners. "What the Republican party, led by disgruntled and failed McCain staffers, is trying to do to Sarah Palin, is unconscionable ... There are country-club, blue-blood ... Republicans who want nothing to do with a firebrand conservative [who] can fire up people." He added: "We're going to be taking on two things here [over] the next four years: Obama, and our own party establishment."John Fund, a Wall Street Journal columnist, said he had received multiple calls from campaign aides wanting "to use me as a conduit for their complaints"."Some on the McCain campaign staff seem more eager than most to settle scores," he noted.The main ammunition in the war was a lengthening list of allegations against Palin: that she thought Africa was a country; that she failed to inform the campaign about a scheduled call with Nicolas Sarkozy which turned out to be a prank; that she refused to undergo coaching prior to her disastrous interviews with CBS anchor Katie Couric; that she couldn't name the three countries in the North America Free Trade Agreement; and that the party had spent up to $70,000 (£45,000) on "wardrobe items" for Palin and "luxury goods" for her husband, in addition to the $150,000 already reported. (Some of the claims were revealed by Fox, hence the boycott.)The New York Times reported that when Palin met McCain in Phoenix on Tuesday night, she held the text of a speech she planned to deliver, in defiance of campaign convention, and had to be overruled.The attacks are partly ideological: some blame Palin and her social-conservative supporters for blunting McCain's appeal to independents, while others believe Palin could be the populist, hawkish figurehead of a revitalised Republican future.But there is plenty of self-interest at stake. "This blame game is the consultants - the people who make their living running campaigns and don't want to be blamed, because they need another job," said Al Regnery, publisher of the American Spectator, and former president of Regnery Publishing, the company behind many recent rightwing bestsellers.At Thursday's summit, he said, "there was a lot of discussion about these people, who always seem to come back, whether they win or lose, and get paid a lot of money. We said we thought our side would be much better off without them."The sniping at Palin has provoked a backlash. One influential website,RedState.com, announced Operation Leper, designed to blacklist campaign staffers believed to be responsible. "We intend to constantly remind the base about these people, monitor who they are working for, and, when 2012 rolls around, see which candidates hire them," it explained.There was speculation that the culprits may be former aides to Mitt Romney, positioning their hero for a future presidential run.The collapse of the McCain-Palin alliance began long before election day, Steve Schmidt, a senior McCain adviser, speaking to reporters on the candidate's plane, was making little effort to hide his disdain for Palin. Asked if her presence on the ticket had been a disadvantage, he twice refused to answer.Randy Scheunemann, McCain's foreign policy chief, this week denied reports that he had been fired in the final stage of the campaign for siding with Palin and leaking "poison" on McCain to the pro-Palin columnist William Kristol. But even one of his allies, Michael Goldfarb, told reporters that Scheunemann's Blackberry had been confiscated in the days before the election.Kristol, who in one column advised
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Why does he have Woody Woodpecter on his hat?: http://www.tinyurl.com/5dqnn9 Don't know. Why don't you ask the Turq or Vaj, our local FFL Buddhists ? They seem to hate the Raja Crowns so I suppose they have info on why the Buddhists hats are s much more meaningful. It's not a woodpecker but a raven, symbolic of the national deity of Bhutan. The modern Raven Crown of Bhutan has partly secular and partly spiritual significance. As funny hats go, this one's pretty neat, if you ask me. For more see: http://www.yanatravel.com/2008/bhutan-culture/the-raven-crown- origin- and-symbolism.html http://tinyurl.com/5nabg2 Buddhists funny hats has no end. When you think you have seen the most funny hat possible another will appear, even more grotesque. At least the TMO only has 1 dignified version.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. Minor quibble, FWIW (I didn't read the book, but I did see the movie): I'm not sure the hillbillies were queer. Male-on-male rape has a very long history as a means of dominance, a way to humiliate and subjugate males over whom one has power by reducing them to the status of women. Happens in prisons all the time. Yes, there are homosexual relationships, but in many cases it's just a matter of dominance of one straight man by another. The men of Sodom who threatened Lot's visitors with rape weren't homosexual either. They wanted to teach the visitors a lesson, that they couldn't just stroll in and demand hospitality from the Sodomites. I don't think that changes your WWJD conclusion any, but I just thought I'd mention it...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nabby, you forgot to add, ...and you're a pooh-pooh head. That would have closed the sale. I'm sorry to have missed this: Barry, the Turq ; you're a pooh-pooh head ! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: I gotta admit, my twisted little mind is enjoying every last minute of this.
So is mine. I think they are getting what they deserve. It's been a long time coming. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Palin in spotlight as Republicans turn on each other Right tears itself apart in pinning blame for McCain's defeat Oliver Burkeman in Washington guardian.co.uk, Saturday November 8 2008 00.01 GMT The Guardian, Saturday November 8 2008 larger | smaller As the implosion of the defeated Republican campaign continued yesterday, the landscape of American conservatism was dotted with signs that these were very strange times indeed. Rush Limbaugh, behemoth of rightwing radio, took to the airwaves to declare war on two enemies: Barack Obama and the Republican party. Bloggers at FreeRepublic.com, an internet hub for conservatives, announced a boycott of Fox News and John McCain's aides fell over one another to leak embarrassing details about the campaign to the press. Liberals, indulging in what the writer Andrew Sullivan termed Palinfreude, were presented with a smorgasbord, ranging from the tale of how McCain's pro-Palin foreign policy adviser had his Blackberry confiscated in the closing days of the race, to how the party had paid for Todd Palin's silk boxer shorts. The fighting consuming the McCain and Palin camps threatened to derail broader efforts to overhaul the Republican party after Tuesday's decisive defeat, for which some insiders blamed Sarah Palin. Veterans of the right gathered in the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, on Thursday for a summit on the movement's future, but even as they did so, the blame went on. Ladies and gentlemen, it is worse than I thought, Limbaugh told listeners. What the Republican party, led by disgruntled and failed McCain staffers, is trying to do to Sarah Palin, is unconscionable ... There are country-club, blue-blood ... Republicans who want nothing to do with a firebrand conservative [who] can fire up people. He added: We're going to be taking on two things here [over] the next four years: Obama, and our own party establishment. John Fund, a Wall Street Journal columnist, said he had received multiple calls from campaign aides wanting to use me as a conduit for their complaints. Some on the McCain campaign staff seem more eager than most to settle scores, he noted. The main ammunition in the war was a lengthening list of allegations against Palin: that she thought Africa was a country; that she failed to inform the campaign about a scheduled call with Nicolas Sarkozy which turned out to be a prank; that she refused to undergo coaching prior to her disastrous interviews with CBS anchor Katie Couric; that she couldn't name the three countries in the North America Free Trade Agreement; and that the party had spent up to $70,000 (£45,000) on wardrobe items for Palin and luxury goods for her husband, in addition to the $150,000 already reported. (Some of the claims were revealed by Fox, hence the boycott.) The New York Times reported that when Palin met McCain in Phoenix on Tuesday night, she held the text of a speech she planned to deliver, in defiance of campaign convention, and had to be overruled. The attacks are partly ideological: some blame Palin and her social- conservative supporters for blunting McCain's appeal to independents, while others believe Palin could be the populist, hawkish figurehead of a revitalised Republican future. But there is plenty of self-interest at stake. This blame game is the consultants - the people who make their living running campaigns and don't want to be blamed, because they need another job, said Al Regnery, publisher of the American Spectator, and former president of Regnery Publishing, the company behind many recent rightwing bestsellers. At Thursday's summit, he said, there was a lot of discussion about these people, who always seem to come back, whether they win or lose, and get paid a lot of money. We said we thought our side would be much better off without them. The sniping at Palin has provoked a backlash. One influential website, RedState.com, announced Operation Leper, designed to blacklist campaign staffers believed to be responsible. We intend to constantly remind the base about these people, monitor who they are working for, and, when 2012 rolls around, see which candidates hire them, it explained. There was speculation that the culprits may be former aides to Mitt Romney, positioning their hero for a future presidential run. The collapse of the McCain-Palin alliance began long before election day, Steve Schmidt, a senior McCain adviser, speaking to reporters on the candidate's plane, was making little effort to hide his disdain for Palin. Asked if her presence on the ticket had been a disadvantage, he twice refused to answer. Randy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
Bhairitu wrote: Should be bail out companies whose CEOs are just too lame to make a car that Americans really wanted? You need to get out more - American cars are the best selling cars in the world. But there's no question about the auto industry bail out. Instead did they make junk that falls apart just out of warranty or even before? No, just the cars you bought. But you don't need a car with a fancy foreign name pasted on the trunk lid, Barry. Besides, your car was probably made in America. And you don't need a long fancy name like FORD affixed to your pickup gate. All you need is three letters: GMC. Did the CEOs forget there is such a thing as marketing and that with marketing you can convince the public that their next car should be smaller and more fuel efficient? That's great for you, since all you need a car for is to drive to your nearest 7-11 to get some sunflower seeds. But you can't tow a trailer or a boat with Subaru brat. It's true that a Honda Civic will tow 1,000 lbs. if you want to remove debris from you back yard. I say NO. Get a grip, Barry! You voted YES for Barack Obama. You going to be paying really high taxes in the next few years. You are going to have to pay the unions some big bucks. They were bad businessmen and deserve to go under. Why do almost all of your political solutions involve violence or anarchy? Now you're wanting to bust up the UAW and the teamsters and start a riot? You're not even making any sense. The argument is that it effects too many jobs. So are we supposed to buy crap cars to help with this bailout? Not me. Of course my Forester is still going strong and I still may get a few more years out of it but if it were stolen or totaled tomorrow my next car would probably be a Toyota Prius or Honda hybrid. From what I've read, Barack Obama will be raising import tariffs so far that you'll be lucky to get a single valve for your little four-banger for less than a thousand dollars. The American car companies have nothing for me. And at the moment neither does Subaru. And BTW my Subaru WAS built in the US. Most of your stuff was bought un-American and you drive a car made in Asia, but I wouldn't be caught dead driving a little forign car with a funny name on it. If I wanted to, I could buy a Toyota Tundra just like the one Sarah Palin drives, made right here in San Antonio, but that's a non-union shop. You like non-union shops, right? And we shouldn't have bailed out the banks either. The little pink one under your bed? You need to get some smarts, Barry - there won't be any real *money* in banks - it's all digital now. What you've got are printed up 'Certificates' - no gold in Fort Knox. You got Obama for President, but you lost the war, so that means you will be bankrupt - no fuel, no car, no bank, no money, no U.S. Army.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If I'm right, and the nature of Fairfield Life *has* shifted a bit in a more positive direction, less recep- tive to and manipulatable by trolling and name-calling Note that Barry excludes from the ranks of name-callers the folks who call those with whom they disagree trolls. Meant to add: The term trolls, as used by Barry and the other purported non-name-callers here, also encompasses those who correct the many factual errors made by the former.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7712451.stm# [New Bhutan King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck] Buddhists make Raja Crowns look simple and dignified ! i like the birdie hood ornament and skulls. and what does all this headgear signify anyway? the rajas for instance seem to wear these crowns in order to break down their egos, but i can't figure out any other reason. and just for gossip's sake, what are the raja crowns made of- are they at least gold plated? does anyone here know? It's solid gold signifying the breakdown and transformation of the small ego into unity with the cosmic ego which is the totality of natural law or God. Whereas, as we have seen and will continue to see, the hats of the Buddhists are mere outher symbols of vain power worn by small men gurus to even smaller, meaner men who call themselves Buddhists since they have nothing better to do, represented on FFL by hateful characters like Vaj and the Turq. thank you for the information. solid gold works-- at least it would feel right energetically-- Agreed :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam wrote: snip When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. Minor quibble, FWIW (I didn't read the book, but I did see the movie): I'm not sure the hillbillies were queer. Male-on-male rape has a very long history as a means of dominance, a way to humiliate and subjugate males over whom one has power by reducing them to the status of women. Happens in prisons all the time. Yes, there are homosexual relationships, but in many cases it's just a matter of dominance of one straight man by another. The men of Sodom who threatened Lot's visitors with rape weren't homosexual either. They wanted to teach the visitors a lesson, that they couldn't just stroll in and demand hospitality from the Sodomites. I don't think that changes your WWJD conclusion any, but I just thought I'd mention it... !! Of course. Rape is violence, not sexual desire, no matter who's being raped. D'oh. I had never considered this angle. I've never had the impulse. I've never gotten a woody at the prospect of dominating another man. But this must be the dynamic at play when one man dismisses another by saying, You can suck my dick. I had heard of men bitching up in prison, but understood it to be an adaption to the absence of women, not an exercise of dominance. But both things could happen in prison, couldn't they? - rape as dominance, and bitching up as an outlet for sexual and emotional desire. I wonder if gay sex makes so many hetero men squeamish because they associate it with aggression. For all my talk of being pro-gay- marriage, I get uncomfortable when hit upon by a man. Sure, some women are uncomfortable too, but many take it in stride or even enjoy the attention. http://tinyurl.com/6kw6tg
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Oh, yeah, and I agree with Turq that you have been laying down some very interesting writing. Well, thank you very kindly indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists with funny hats
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Do you actually believe that Nabby's obvious hatred of things Buddhist (something he is repeating as rote from the Shankaracharya trad- ition) is *balanced*? nabby strikes me as a pretty religous person. dawn; whats wrong with that ? absolutely nothing. nor do you seem unbalanced in the least. i think you just poke fun at fundamentalist ways, in favor of what you have found to be best. that seems to be the personality of this forum in large part. I don't hate Buddhism, quite the contrary it is the religion which is the closests to Maharishi and Mr. Creme. Maharishi always spoke very fondly of The Buddha and obviously held Him in high regard. And the Guru's of countless initiates within Tesosophy are Buddhists. But it amuses me that this religion, like all the other organized religions, have lost the ability to give their followers a direct experience of Being. i have to agree with you there. So overwhelmingly evidenced by the hateful posts against the TMO by Buddhists like Vaj and the Turq. It is only when this Turq-fellow again and again seek to trash the TMO and the way the Rajas are dressing by pointing out that they in fact wear golden crowns I take the liberty to show a few examples of what Bhuddhists actually put on top of their heads. Like this one: Enjoy ! [ BHUTAN] i find the buddhist hats charming and wonderful from a design standpoint, but as dress with any significance, yes it is all rather silly. at least i enjoy challenging the concept.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. UnElectable just won...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ With Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff, no one will be able to run for Congress without kissing some serious Obama butt. Rahm is founder of the DCCC and an old hand at recruiting candidates, raising funds, and organizing races. If you don't play ball with Rahm, you don't play. DO NOT LIKE. Aside from some snarkiness about Obama throwing progressives under the bus with his choice of Rahm Emanuel, I would think the PUMAcrats would otherwise be delighted that such an important member of the Clinton machine is being brought on board in such high-ranking capacity. What am I missing here? Well, first, what exactly is your definition of PUMAcrat? If you think it's a general term that applies to anyone who supported Hillary and didn't support Obama, you've got another think coming. My question arose after browsing the reactions to Rahm on some of the various PUMA blogs, and I find the people on them display no less 'zoidal groupthink than the hardcore Obamazoids. I was surprised by the reactions, and I bounced my question off your post because it was a convenient launching point. And second, what on *earth* makes you think that having been a Hillary supporter means that one mindlessly approves of anyone who ever worked for Bill Clinton? That seems kind of insulting, Alex, and not like you. My apologies, then, if I mistakenly lumped you in with the hardcore PUMAzoids.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You need a hominem for an ad hominem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Note to Sarah: I too would like to see one of your accusers get hammered on by an O'reilly or two in the press, and I suspect in time we will. But you don't need a person to attack personally to refute specific charges. You just need to contradict them in detail by say, naming even 5 countries in Africa and I won't even make you tell me who their leader is. You could easily demonstrate your knowledge if you had any. Fair enough? Think if she had reeled off a list of African countries at her press conference, her critics would have realized how wrong they were and apologized? Or would they have suggested that there was plenty of time between when she first heard the charge and her press conference to have a quick look in an atlas, or just ask one of her aides? Your solution is a crock, Curtis. There's nothing she can do to refute the charge, because it's about what was purportedly the case *at the time*. We've all seen innumerable instances--many on this very forum--of people twisting what somebody said to make them look bad. Fortunately it's often possible to locate the original quote in the archives and document that it was twisted. Yet it doesn't seem to occur to some of us to ask whether that might be the case when we hear bad things about somebody we don't like but don't have access to any kind of record to verify them. I'd bet a good deal of money that this is *precisely* what Palin's anonymous smearers have done. (I've heard two different versions of her purported state of undress in her hotel room in the presence of a bunch of men: one that she was wearing only a towel, and the other that she was wearing a bathrobe. I'll bet she was wearing a *terrycloth* bathrobe, such as hotels often provide for guests, and that her smearers decided that because it was made of the same material as towels are, it would be cute to call it a towel rather than a bathrobe.) Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com, BTW, who has been extremely critical of Palin's candidacy, supports her in his column today: I actually agree entirely with Sarah Palin about this: the McCain aides willing to criticize her only behind the protective veil of anonymity are cowards. But that is the way of Washington: it's filled with people too craven to say what they think and attach their names to it, and criticisms are thus frequently launched, from all sides, only by people hiding behind reporters, who too often grant anonymity to protect and enable snide, petty sniping from cowardly Beltway operatives. It not only protects snide and petty sniping, I'd suggest, but also outright falsehood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam wrote: snip When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. Minor quibble, FWIW (I didn't read the book, but I did see the movie): I'm not sure the hillbillies were queer. Male-on-male rape has a very long history as a means of dominance, a way to humiliate and subjugate males over whom one has power by reducing them to the status of women. Happens in prisons all the time. Yes, there are homosexual relationships, but in many cases it's just a matter of dominance of one straight man by another. The men of Sodom who threatened Lot's visitors with rape weren't homosexual either. They wanted to teach the visitors a lesson, that they couldn't just stroll in and demand hospitality from the Sodomites. I don't think that changes your WWJD conclusion any, but I just thought I'd mention it... !! Of course. Rape is violence, not sexual desire, no matter who's being raped. D'oh. I had never considered this angle. I've never had the impulse. I've never gotten a woody at the prospect of dominating another man. But this must be the dynamic at play when one man dismisses another by saying, You can suck my dick. Absolutely! I had heard of men bitching up in prison, but understood it to be an adaption to the absence of women, not an exercise of dominance. But both things could happen in prison, couldn't they? - rape as dominance, and bitching up as an outlet for sexual and emotional desire. My understanding is that it's both. I wonder if gay sex makes so many hetero men squeamish because they associate it with aggression. For all my talk of being pro-gay- marriage, I get uncomfortable when hit upon by a man. Sure, some women are uncomfortable too, but many take it in stride or even enjoy the attention. Interesting point. You could well be right. For me, it depends entirely on the specific type of coming-on behavior. I get pissed off if I have the sense the man feels entitled, even if he's not explicitly aggressive. As far as women coming on to me is concerned, I am uncomfortable if she gets touchy-feely, but up to that point I have a terrible time not flirting back, which is kind of unfair to the woman since I'm just not a candidate. http://tinyurl.com/6kw6tg Oh, I love this! The most imaginative come-on I've ever had was from a Middle Eastern guy in a little grocery store I used to frequent in NYC. (He would surely never have followed through, but it was lovely anway.) I handed him a five for something I was buying. He held onto it by the two ends, and staring deep into my eyes, he convulsively ripped the bill in half.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: Oh, yeah, and I agree with Turq that you have been laying down some very interesting writing. Well, thank you very kindly indeed. For the record, I've never known Patrick to do any *other* kind of writing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kneecapping Sarah Palin
Hey, what do you say to a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, because she's already been told twice! This is my troll post for the day. --- On Fri, 11/7/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kneecapping Sarah Palin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 11:19 PM Sexism alert! If you don't think it exists, don't bother reading this. Uppity Woman writes passionately in defense of Sarah, Hillary and women against sexism which she believes we are conditioned to perpetuate by blaming women for anything and everything that goes wrong. If a woman is a victim of an assault, we assume it was her fault, She was asking for it and got what she deserved. raunchydogWhich Woman Shall We Blame Today?? Posted on November 7, 2008 by Uppity Woman Copyright © 2008 Uppity Woman. All Rights Reserved. I remember a time when, if a woman was brutally raped, the cops would ask her, What were you wearing?. Those were the days, not so long past, when it was the woman's fault if her husband kicked the crap out of her. She asked for it. It was also her fault if she got raped because she asked for it. I thought we had improved since then. But we haven't. Well, actually we had made progress, but there is a certain man who is now the elected President of the United States, who set back gender relations by a minimum of 50 years. But nobody is blaming him. It can't possibly be his fault as a maliciously gleeful Enabler. Why blame him when there is a woman or two around to blame? And why not? When men aren't busy blaming us women, we are busy blaming each other. This morning I tuned into FOX. It was the first time I had bothered with a news channel since the election. FOX was my only choice, as MSNBC and CNN are forever dead to me. There, I watched the classy Lady Lynn Forester De Rothschild sitting there on a panel designed to discuss What's Wrong With Sarah. Yes, regressive progressive boys, I know that Lady R is married to a rich man, so that cancels her out in some of your little minds. The fact that she was a successful businesswoman and a millionaire in her own right before she married isn't really relevant is it? I recall my immigrant grandmother, who had no education to speak of at all, telling me that it's not wise to hang around with a guy who has less than you do. So Lady R was smart enough to marry somebody who wasn't going to suck down her assets. Too bad some other women I have known in my life didn't take that same advice. Sorry Lynn's good sense disappoints you, regressives fellas. So there I was, watching Lady R sitting on an esteemed FOX panel discussing Sarah Palin and how we can pin John McCain's loss on her. So, who was on this panel with her?: None other than the morally bankrupt Jerry I love prostitutes so that makes me a real politician, but I got caught so now I encourage white trash to throw pies at each other in order to earn a living Springer. But they weren't alone. Nope. Nick DePaolo was there offering his `wisdom' as well. Being Italian, I recognize a dago greaseball when I see one. This is why I was not surprised when ole Nick said in his best hairy macho, Some female in the campaign had a problem with her to describe why she is enduring smears at the moment. I thought, Wow! Double-Dipping Woman-Blaming, Nick! Brilliant! You're experienced at this! Your mother enabled you well! It's a woman's fault but we've got the wrong woman in our sights! It's not Sarah at all! It's some other woman who had a problem with Sarah who started all these rumors! Yeah, that's it, It's a woman's fault that it's a woman's fault. Nicky! Paisano! You didn't let me down! I'm not sure, but I think I saw Lady R nearly roll her eyes at that point. But, being a disciplined, well-educated person with a solid three-digit IQ unmatched by the two goons next to her, she was very gracious to these two knuckle dragging beasts she was forced to talk to. I really admired her at that moment. Here she was on a panel with two remnant-samplings of Pithecanthropus Erectus and she didn't haul off and tell them both just how stupid and useless they both really are. I suspect that Lady R understands the concept that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. So just to recap: John McCain's loss was Sarah's fault. This is an important point to make because, behind the scenes, there are several cowardly unnamed members of McCain's staff who are trying to save their own incompetent asses in hopes that somebody will hire them again to work on another horribly run campaign. Flailing, because they all look like idiots for managing a campaign that was suitable for a council candidate in a town of 10,000, they needed someone to blame. Fortunately for them, there was a woman there,
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Gift
I had hoped to present this during one of the post-election experiences sessions in the dome, as Maharishi had invited such things after the election two years ago. But such an invitation was not extended after this election, so I send it out as an email. Bob Maharishi's Gift by Bob Klauber Even though Maharishi is no longer with us on the physical plane, his gifts to us were of the kind that just keep on giving. Of all those great gifts, the Invincible America Assembly is one of the greatest. Think back 28 months to where we and this country were at on the day he announced the beginning of this assembly. Our government was in the hands of those who championed GM foods, suppressed and distorted scientific research on global warming, and so much more. It is a long laundry list of activities that are anything but life-supporting. Then, think back to the last election we had, a little more than three months after the start of the IA course. Contrary to what any political pundit would have even considered remotely possible, control of congress changed hands, and we had a check on the non-life supporting activities of the executive branch. It was, in one word, a miracle. And we know why. We know why. Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. I am not a young man. I have beheld many an election cycle, and seen, time after time, candidates that were pure of heart, and of exalted intelligence, go down to defeat, victims of a collective consciousness that simply could not fathom the stock of which they were made. Now, in the autumn of my life, I have witnessed a sea change in that collective consciousness. A decision made by the great mass of people in this country that would have been absolutely inconceivable just two plus years ago. And again .. we know why. Two years ago, I spoke to Maharishi about that election. I would like to repeat now, what I said then, as I think it is even more apropos today. Jai Guru Dev, Maharishi. I am a scientist and Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, though in recent years, due to the state of affairs in this country, I have become a political activist. As an activist, I have worked with thousands of other activists across our nation, all of us connected via internet, phone, and fax. I think many of us have pictured ourselves as miniature Arjunas, or Luke Skywalkers, fighting the good fight against the forces of darkness. Many of us have worked thousands of hours, and accomplished very little. In fact, the longer and harder we worked, the worse things got. Then, this course, the Invincible America Course, started. I cut back on my hours of activism, and instead, invested those hours in long program with the group here in the dome. Well, the results speak for themselves. The results speak for themselves. Previously, I was doing a whole lot, and accomplishing nothing. Now I am doing nothing, and accomplishing a whole lot. In the process, I re-learned, on a deeper level, some fundamental lessons from SCI. I re-learned, for example, where the source of invincibility really lies. Maharishi knows what has been, and is, in my heart. The pain, the frustration, the sense of futility, now transformed into elation and gratitude. So there is no need to say anything more, except .. Jai Guru Dev.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Gift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A miracle? What, that America isn't racist after all? black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. Whoaaa, easy on the superlatives Luke! Time will tell, who knows he may turn out worse than Bush, GMAB! ;-) snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kneecapping Sarah Palin
On Nov 8, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Peter wrote: 'm not sure, but I think I saw Lady R nearly roll her eyes at that point. But, being a disciplined, well-educated person with a solid three-digit IQ She actually has an IQ of at least 100? Wow. If you're a Repug, that's practically genius level. Sal
[FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--New book on Yogic Flying available
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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Gift
I had hoped to present this during one of the post-election experiences sessions in the dome, as Maharishi had invited such things after the election two years ago. But such an invitation was not extended after this election, so I send it out as an email. Bob Maharishi's Gift by Bob Klauber Even though Maharishi is no longer with us on the physical plane, his gifts to us were of the kind that just keep on giving. Of all those great gifts, the Invincible America Assembly is one of the greatest. Think back 28 months to where we and this country were at on the day he announced the beginning of this assembly. Our government was in the hands of those who championed GM foods, suppressed and distorted scientific research on global warming, and so much more. It is a long laundry list of activities that are anything but life-supporting. Then, think back to the last election we had, a little more than three months after the start of the IA course. Contrary to what any political pundit would have even considered remotely possible, control of congress changed hands, and we had a check on the non-life supporting activities of the executive branch. It was, in one word, a miracle. And we know why. We know why. Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. I am not a young man. I have beheld many an election cycle, and seen, time after time, candidates that were pure of heart, and of exalted intelligence, go down to defeat, victims of a collective consciousness that simply could not fathom the stock of which they were made. Now, in the autumn of my life, I have witnessed a sea change in that collective consciousness. A decision made by the great mass of people in this country that would have been absolutely inconceivable just two plus years ago. And again we know why. Two years ago, I spoke to Maharishi about that election. I would like to repeat now, what I said then, as I think it is even more apropos today. Jai Guru Dev, Maharishi. I am a scientist and Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, though in recent years, due to the state of affairs in this country, I have become a political activist. As an activist, I have worked with thousands of other activists across our nation, all of us connected via internet, phone, and fax. I think many of us have pictured ourselves as miniature Arjunas, or Luke Skywalkers, fighting the good fight against the forces of darkness. Many of us have worked thousands of hours, and accomplished very little. In fact, the longer and harder we worked, the worse things got. Then, this course, the Invincible America Course, started. I cut back on my hours of activism, and instead, invested those hours in long program with the group here in the dome. Well, the results speak for themselves. The results speak for themselves. Previously, I was doing a whole lot, and accomplishing nothing. Now I am doing nothing, and accomplishing a whole lot. In the process, I re-learned, on a deeper level, some fundamental lessons from SCI. I re-learned, for example, where the source of invincibility really lies. Maharishi knows what has been, and is, in my heart. The pain, the frustration, the sense of futility, now transformed into elation and gratitude. So there is no need to say anything more, except Jai Guru Dev.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: Those companies had their chance to succeed. You voted for Barack Obama and now you are going to have to pay - the auto unions own Barack Obama; they could, if they wanted to, bring the whole country down to it's knees. Your assessment is rather severe, although interesting but could be discussed further in another thread. The point I was making was that the American executives who are running the US auto industry are short sighted in their planning for consumer demand. They have invested heavily in making the SUVs and other gas guzzling models because the profits were high for the near term, as in a year after production. However, they failed to have a secondary fall back plan to compensate for the rise of oil due world events and economic crises that we're having now. Currently the American consumers are preferring and buying car models with high mileage attributes like the hybrid cars. Unfortunately, the US auto industry cannot provide the models in time because they have geared their assembly lines on the other gas guzzling models. As such, the Japanese auto makers were perfectly positioned to provide the models that the American consumers wanted, such as the hybrid models. This same type of scenario occurred in the early 1970's during the oil embargo era. It was at that time that the Japanese car manufacturers earned a foothold in the US car market. Why? Because they were again positioned to provide the smaller car models with high mileage ratings. If the car executives in Michigan had planned better, they would not be in a bind today. In essence, they got caught with their pants down. They don't deserve to manage the US car industry. Let someone else who is more capable run it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Gift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A miracle? What, that America isn't racist after all? black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. Whoaaa, easy on the superlatives Luke! Time will tell, who knows he may turn out worse than Bush, GMAB! ;-) snip Well, said, BillyG. I myself found this Bob's letter a frightening mass of brainwashed pap. Not that I want to cast dispersions on Obama. The time for that has ended. The man was democratically elected president and our prayers and support should extend to him wishing him God Speed in the important and difficult task he will have running the country. But to spout all those superlatives and platitudes the way this guy does is, indeed, frightening. His letter represents all the wrong turns the TMO has taken ever since it abandoned its mission statement some 30 years ago.
[FairfieldLife] Palin for president
Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her. Take a look at the poll results below. - Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming positive feelings about Palin: Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable. When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%. Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low single- digit support.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life. Although well written as a whole, your last sentence is misguided to say the least.
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch: Consciousness, Creativity and the Brain - 109 minutes
http://tinyurl.com/6daayr
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life. Although well written as a whole, your last sentence is misguided to say the least. Please explain to us why. Seriously, I would love to hear it. I will probably not comment, but I would like to hear you explaining why Patrick's sentence is misguided. What view of Jesus should he have been guided to?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Paradigm Shift
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:50 AM, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If I'm right, and the nature of Fairfield Life *has* shifted a bit in a more positive direction, less recep- tive to and manipulatable by trolling and name-calling, I have a pretty good idea that the TM movement will try to take credit for it. It's because of the new pundits who just arrived in Fairfield. Whatever. Let them try to take the credit. I just apprec- iate the relative calm after a long voyage over stormy seas. It may not last, but it's pleasant while it does. FWIW, Maharishi pointed out a number of times that rising consciousness would never be credited with better trends in society. Indeed we who practice TM/TM Sidhi Program would hardly notice because the knower is changing. As the knower changes, that which is known is seen with new perception. Note that there are thousands of groups working for raising consciousness and world peace. There are yagyas going on with billions of repetitions of the mantra. Should we take all of the credit and say that all these other groups are doing their bit because of us?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the car executives in Michigan had planned better, they would not be in a bind today. In essence, they got caught with their pants down. They don't deserve to manage the US car industry. Let someone else who is more capable run it. That sums up my stance as well. And, with a '96 Dodge RAM and '92 Jeep Cherokee Laredo out in the garage, we could possibly end up owning two vehicles that no longer have a manufacturer. I don't relish the idea of our vehicles being orphaned, but I still don't think the govt should bail out the US car industry. Another situation I've been watching with a bit of schadenfreude is Yahoo. They played hardball with Microsoft and turned down two buyout offers. The ad deal with Google fell through, and now the stock that Microsoft was willing to buy for $33 per share is selling at $12. Yahoo is publicly whimpering for Microsoft to come back to the negotiating table, and Steve Ballmer is giving them the brush-off.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Gift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A miracle? What, that America isn't racist after all? black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. Whoaaa, easy on the superlatives Luke! Time will tell, who knows he may turn out worse than Bush, GMAB! ;-) Well, said, BillyG. I myself found this Bob's letter a frightening mass of brainwashed pap. Not that I want to cast dispersions on Obama. The time for that has ended. The man was democratically elected president and our prayers and support should extend to him wishing him God Speed in the important and difficult task he will have running the country. But to spout all those superlatives and platitudes the way this guy does is, indeed, frightening. His letter represents all the wrong turns the TMO has taken ever since it abandoned its mission statement some 30 years ago. Ditto-What are these groupies going to do when President Obama drops a few bombs here and there and kills some innocent people in the process? Faint? They must think *America* is the evil force a-foot in the World, think again.
[FairfieldLife] The Saturday Cartoons
Click scroll down a little for many delightful cartoons: http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2008/11/saturday-cartoons_08.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: Those companies had their chance to succeed. You voted for Barack Obama and now you are going to have to pay - the auto unions own Barack Obama; they could, if they wanted to, bring the whole country down to it's knees. Your assessment is rather severe, although interesting but could be discussed further in another thread. The point I was making was that the American executives who are running the US auto industry are short sighted in their planning for consumer demand. They have invested heavily in making the SUVs and other gas guzzling models because the profits were high for the near term, as in a year after production. However, they failed to have a secondary fall back plan to compensate for the rise of oil due world events and economic crises that we're having now. Currently the American consumers are preferring and buying car models with high mileage attributes like the hybrid cars. Unfortunately, the US auto industry cannot provide the models in time because they have geared their assembly lines on the other gas guzzling models. As such, the Japanese auto makers were perfectly positioned to provide the models that the American consumers wanted, such as the hybrid models. This same type of scenario occurred in the early 1970's during the oil embargo era. It was at that time that the Japanese car manufacturers earned a foothold in the US car market. Why? Because they were again positioned to provide the smaller car models with high mileage ratings. If the car executives in Michigan had planned better, they would not be in a bind today. In essence, they got caught with their pants down. They don't deserve to manage the US car industry. Let someone else who is more capable run it. The whole issue is a cabal. There is definitely collusion between the oil companies and the auto manufacturers. There is just too much old guard thinking that keeps the manufacturers from making cars that last a long time. Planned obsolescence is their creed. And there is a problem with unions. There are a lot of assembly line jobs that could and should be replaced by robots. They are often boring jobs that no human should be doing. But the unions keep those on the line and the bored worker doesn't get things fastened down properly and things fall apart a year or two later. My Subaru was built in an non-union plant but to date I have heard no complaints from their employees. Most likely they were wise and followed the tech company model of treat your employees right and they won't form a union. Unions are only necessary when people are being exploited. Another unique thing about my Subaru is that it was designed in the US. There is a car design school at Western State University in Bellingham, WA (I am supposing it is still there) and Subaru had them design models. Other Japanese companies like Toyota also funded design there. I'm not sure if any US company participated but I remember seeing a documentary years ago on the politics of US car design and how innovative design lose out the profit making designs of the senior designers at the US companies. Looking for bonuses and big stock options these designers pleased the execs instead of the customers. While I was writing the start of this topic last night the local KGO radio host (who considers himself a Libertarian but voted for Obama) was discussing this issue. He mentioned he was very much for the free market determining the fate of the companies but that 2 1/2 million jobs were at stake. Obviously he was including the people involved in dealerships too. He had a car salesman call in who is looking for another gig because even if he has a customer the banks won't loan unless their FICO score is 750 or above. Another guy who works for Mercedes brought up the argument which I added here about being penalized for building well built cars. Also the unions could take over the factories. If the economy gets really bad which I think it will, that may happen. It has happened in Argentina and is now happening in China! In China the owners are running away from their factories. I think the auto workers could probably come up with a better run company and build cars worth buying. And we also need to get rid of that snake oil salesman or Indian street vendor method of auto sales in the US. I would much rather walk into a car dealership and NOT have to haggle because you really have to be sharp to keep from getting screwed. I did learn a few tricks from some former car salesmen and know when you can get a good price. But the customers shouldn't need to do that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Gift
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A miracle? What, that America isn't racist after all? black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. Whoaaa, easy on the superlatives Luke! Time will tell, who knows he may turn out worse than Bush, GMAB! ;-) Well, said, BillyG. I myself found this Bob's letter a frightening mass of brainwashed pap. Not that I want to cast dispersions on Obama. The time for that has ended. The man was democratically elected president and our prayers and support should extend to him wishing him God Speed in the important and difficult task he will have running the country. But to spout all those superlatives and platitudes the way this guy does is, indeed, frightening. His letter represents all the wrong turns the TMO has taken ever since it abandoned its mission statement some 30 years ago. Ditto-What are these groupies going to do when President Obama drops a few bombs here and there and kills some innocent people in the process? Faint? They must think *America* is the evil force a-foot in the World, think again. I can't think of a president during my lifetime who didn't have to confront something militarily...Jimmy Carter? I think even he had at least a small incident when those helicopter troops he sent into Iran were killed. But even Clinton bombed Iraq, bombed that Sudanese pharmaceutical factory (which turned out to be an actual pharmaceutical factory and not what Clinton claimed it to be), and Kosovo. What will happen when Obama is confronted with such a decision?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: If the car executives in Michigan had planned better, they would not be in a bind today. In essence, they got caught with their pants down. They don't deserve to manage the US car industry. Let someone else who is more capable run it. That sums up my stance as well. And, with a '96 Dodge RAM and '92 Jeep Cherokee Laredo out in the garage, we could possibly end up owning two vehicles that no longer have a manufacturer. I don't know that much about cars...but I think there is a thriving market for parts by manufacturers that are NOT the car's original manufacturer, no? If that is the case, I don't think you'd have to worry about either servicing or getting parts. I don't relish the idea of our vehicles being orphaned, but I still don't think the govt should bail out the US car industry. Another situation I've been watching with a bit of schadenfreude is Yahoo. They played hardball with Microsoft and turned down two buyout offers. The ad deal with Google fell through, and now the stock that Microsoft was willing to buy for $33 per share is selling at $12. Yahoo is publicly whimpering for Microsoft to come back to the negotiating table, and Steve Ballmer is giving them the brush-off.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
shempmcgurk wrote: Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her. Take a look at the poll results below. - Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming positive feelings about Palin: Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable. When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%. Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low single- digit support. All Obama has to do is turn some things around and no one will vote for a Republican for a long time (if ever, more likely it will splinter off into other parties). As it is they would be foolish to run Palin. She should have stuck to being a news anchor. The era of electing someone you can have a beer with is over. It was one of the darkest, if not the darkest, era in American history and the public will be paying for it for a long time. All you have to do is show why they are paying for it. Game over.
Re: [FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--New book on Yogic Flying available
But nobody flies, right? --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--New book on Yogic Flying available To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 1:40 PM From: Dome Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Complete Book of Yogic Flying, by Dr. Craig Pearson, is now available in the University Store in the Argiro Student Center and online at http://mumpress.com. *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type the word unsubscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--New book on Yogic Flying available
On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Peter wrote: But nobody flies, right? It's a very thin book, not much of a plot, but one heck of a cast of characters... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: You need a hominem for an ad hominem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We've all seen innumerable instances--many on this very forum--of people twisting what somebody said to make them look bad. Fortunately it's often possible to locate the original quote in the archives and document that it was twisted. Yet it doesn't seem to occur to some of us to ask whether that might be the case when we hear bad things about somebody we don't like but don't have access to any kind of record to verify them. I'd bet a good deal of money that this is *precisely* what Palin's anonymous smearers have done. From NRO's group blog The Corner: Palin and Africa, Etc. [Rich Lowry] I talked to Steve Biegun, the former Bush NSC aid who briefed Sarah Palin on foreign policy, and he considers the leaks against her on the international stuff absurd. He says there's no way she didn't know Africa was a continent, and whoever is saying she didn't must be distorting a fumble of words. He talked to her about all manner of issues relating to Africa, from failed states to the Sudan. She was aware from the beginning of the conflict in Darfur, which is followed closely in evangelical churches, and was aware of Clinton's AIDS initiative. That basically makes it impossible that she thought all of Africa was a country. On not knowing what countries are in NAFTA, Biegun was part of the conversation that led to that accusation and it convinces him somebody is acting with a high degree of maliciousness. He was briefing Palin before a Univision interview, and talking to her about trade issues. He rolled through NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Colombia FTA. As he talked, people were coming in and out of the room, handing Palin things, etc. She was distracted from what Biegun was saying, and said, roughly, Ok, who's in NAFTA, what's the deal with CAFTA, what's up the FTA?her way, Biegun says, of saying rack them and stack them, begin again from the start. Somebody is taking a conversation and twisting it maliciously, he says. In general, according to Beigun, Palin had a steep learning curve on foreign issues, about what you would expect from a governor. But she has great instincts and great core values, and is an instinctive internationalist. The stories against her are being fed by an unnamed source who is allowed by the press to make ad hominem attacks on background. Biegun, who spent dozens and dozens of hours briefing Palin on these issues, is happy to defend her, on the record, under his own name. 11/08 02:09 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attacks on Palin are Sexist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: boo_lives wrote: It's completely in line with her personality... Oh my Gawd - Sarah Palin bought some clothing! Read more: Not since Jezebel have we seen this combination of powerlust and prurience from a woman. It's a good thing that so many brave anonymous tipsters, political operatives, journalists, and scholars have given Palin the Elijah treatment and put her in her proper place. Read more: 'Attacks on Palin are Sexist' Posted by Jacques Berlinerblau Washington Post, November 2008 http://tinyurl.com/62jspj In a few short weeks, we have poisoned our collective psyche with every snarky smear of raw sewage the media has pumped out about Sarah Palin. We eagerly ingested it as gospel, hungry for more. Sarah has become a caricature; she is no longer a real person. We have reduced her to a gender driven, ditzy diva, just as we reduced Hillary to the sexist invective, shrill bitch. Such icons become shorthand for a mental hook everyone understands so that just the mention of their name brings to our awareness a negative summary of their essence. Believing it as true, we no longer question our assumptions. Like conditioned rats, we eat pellets of news and drink the drip of media lies, becoming dependent on the masters of propaganda to feed us. Soon we forget how to think for ourselves and we unwittingly bury the motivation of petty unnamed sources beneath our ignorance. Gerald Ford is to clumsy, as Dan Quayle is to potatoe, as Bill Clinton is to Monica. Reduced to joke material for comedians, we laugh at their expense. No one hangs the executioner. Instead, political enemies of icons remain safely hooded and forgotten. The early infamous rumors about Trig being Bristol's baby, Sarah abusing power as governor, banning books, her kids having Pagan names, that she supports Alaska's secession, and that she spent $150 grand on clothes, all these allegations came from the left. They criticized her evangelical upbringing in a church that speaks in tongues and pissed their pants with glee when they found a video of her receiving a healing from a preacher as crazy as Rev. Wright. The early attacks came from the sputtering lefties thrown off their game by McCain's surprise pick for VP. Now the right is eating its own: Sarah spent MORE that $150 grand on clothes, she allowed men to see her in a bathrobe/towel, she didn't know Africa is a continent, she was uncooperative and angry with staff and refused preparation for interviews, etc. Bothering to ask if any of this is true is a ridiculous distraction. The sole purpose of these petty stories is to destroy her political future, make her look like a stupid, entitled hillbilly with an unseemly taste for power and forever dismiss her from being worthy to play ball with the Washington insiders. They fear her because she is far too popular with the base of the Republican Party and therefore, they must destroy her. Rather than broaden our definition of who is a feminist, and explore an opportunity to bring conservative women into the fold; few women on the left have defended Sarah against her political detractors and the sexist attacks on her character. Sadly, many have even joined in the fun of pile on Palin. I believe we can agree to disagree on a woman's right to choose and still appreciate Sarah for the qualities of feminism we hold dear: integrity, strength, intelligence, ambition, independence and an equal partner with one's mate. Sarah is a devoted mother and public servant worthy of respect for her historic campaign and the energy she brought to an otherwise failing John McCain. Welcome to the sisterhood, Sarah, you earned it. Sarah's story reminds me of Woody Allen's Zelig. http://tinyurl.com/5ppq8a raunchydog
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch
You do what you can for society. Let your voice ring out. Do something that is getting underneath the problem, not solving the problem at the level of the problem. Even how big your heart is, get underneath the problem; enliven that field of unity underneath all problems. Help do that as well. - Davis Lynch http://tinyurl.com/6daayr
[FairfieldLife] What Do Women Want?
I got to pondering this age-old question tonight, while listening to some of my favorite music, and having no luck with an answer myself, I turned (as I often do) to Google. Here is one of the links that entering that question led me to, from Poets.org, by a poet I happen to know. I'll pass it along, because it may spark some discussion. Or not. Whatever. What Do Women Want? by Kim Addonizio I want a red dress. I want it flimsy and cheap, I want it too tight, I want to wear it until someone tears it off me. I want it sleeveless and backless, this dress, so no one has to guess what's underneath. I want to walk down the street past Thrifty's and the hardware store with all those keys glittering in the window, past Mr. and Mrs. Wong selling day-old donuts in their café, past the Guerra brothers slinging pigs from the truck and onto the dolly, hoisting the slick snouts over their shoulders. I want to walk like I'm the only woman on earth and I can have my pick. I want that red dress bad. I want it to confirm your worst fears about me, to show you how little I care about you or anything except what I want. When I find it, I'll pull that garment from its hanger like I'm choosing a body to carry me into this world, through the birth-cries and the love-cries too, and I'll wear it like bones, like skin, it'll be the goddamned dress they bury me in.
[FairfieldLife] Ya bought...
...yer Kalashnikov or AR-15 already? Very soon they might be on, how say, short supply? ; )
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ya bought...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...yer Kalashnikov or AR-15 already? Very soon they might be on, how say, short supply? ; ) * Yeah, well, F-land might be cutting back a little too: Finnish gun ownership per capita is the third highest in the world, due largely to a long tradition of hunting sports in the country, but fatal attacks are exceedingly rare. Around 13% of the 5.2 million inhabitants own a gun, with only the United States and Yemen having higher levels of gun ownership. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Finland_considers_tougher_gun_laws
RE: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her. Well, your name is Shemp. How about Moe, Larry or Curly? Oh wait, they're dead. You know, we tried having a mediocre person as president. It didn't work out so well. Seems to me we should choose the smartest person available for the most powerful and possibly the most important job in the world. They say being President is like trying to drink from a fire hose - there's so much coming at you. Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious challenges simultaneously. Now the heat will be turned up and we'll see if he can handle it. I think he'll blossom in the job. I am sure Palin would be crushed. Insiders in Alaska say she's over her head is Governor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her. Take a look at the poll results below. - Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming positive feelings about Palin: Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable. When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%. Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low single- digit support. All Obama has to do is turn some things around and no one will vote for a Republican for a long time (if ever, more likely it will splinter off into other parties). As it is they would be foolish to run Palin. She should have stuck to being a news anchor. The era of electing someone you can have a beer with is over. It was one of the darkest, if not the darkest, era in American history and the public will be paying for it for a long time. All you have to do is show why they are paying for it. Game over. I wouldn't write off the Republicans just yet, Bhairitu...Obama isn't even president yet. A whole lot of things can happen in 4 years. To think that America is anything but a right-of-center country would be a mistake. Obama is the first Democrat to garner more than 50% of the popular vote since Jimmy Carter in '76 (and he only got 50.1% of the vote). Obama's margin of victory -- 6.5% -- was hardly a landslide...nor was his margin in the electoral college a landslide. But if he governs the country satisfactorily in the bi-partisan manner he has pledged to and he follows through on his election promises, he has a chance at a second term. His appointment of the Zionist Rahm Emanuel bodes well for the future in my estimation. But I would wait at least a year or two and see how things unfold before you start writing off a party that has occupied the White House for 28 of the last 40 years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Do Women Want?
R-E-S-P-E-C-T! Video: Aretha Franklin http://tinyurl.com/5yc8nw (oo) What you want (oo) Baby, I got (oo) What you need (oo) Do you know I got it? (oo) All I'm askin' (oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit) Hey baby (just a little bit) when you get home (just a little bit) mister (just a little bit) I ain't gonna do you wrong while you're gone Ain't gonna do you wrong (oo) 'cause I don't wanna (oo) All I'm askin' (oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit) Baby (just a little bit) when you get home (just a little bit) Yeah (just a little bit) I'm about to give you all of my money And all I'm askin' in return, honey Is to give me my profits When you get home (just a, just a, just a, just a) Yeah baby (just a, just a, just a, just a) When you get home (just a little bit) Yeah (just a little bit) -- instrumental break -- Ooo, your kisses (oo) Sweeter than honey (oo) And guess what? (oo) So is my money (oo) All I want you to do (oo) for me Is give it to me when you get home (re, re, re ,re) Yeah baby (re, re, re ,re) Whip it to me (respect, just a little bit) When you get home, now (just a little bit) R-E-S-P-E-C-T Find out what it means to me R-E-S-P-E-C-T Take care, TCB Oh (sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me) A little respect (sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me) Whoa, babe (just a little bit) A little respect (just a little bit) I get tired (just a little bit) Keep on tryin' (just a little bit) You're runnin' out of foolin' (just a little bit) And I ain't lyin' (just a little bit) (re, re, re, re) 'spect When you come home (re, re, re ,re) Or you might walk in (respect, just a little bit) And find out I'm gone (just a little bit) I got to have (just a little bit) A little respect (just a little bit)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious challenges simultaneously. [snip] Oh, really? Which numerous serious challenges are you referring to? Look I wish the guy well. He was chosen as our president and I want to rally behind him with everyone else. But I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Please enlighten me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should we bail out the auto companies?
The whole issue is a cabal. There is definitely collusion between the oil companies and the auto manufacturers. There is just too much old guard thinking that keeps the manufacturers from making cars that last a long time. Planned obsolescence is their creed. I recall Lee Iacoca saying that the US manufacturers are factoring in seven years as the buying cycle for American consumers. So, that is the plan of obsolescence for cars here in the US. And there is a problem with unions. There are a lot of assembly line jobs that could and should be replaced by robots. They are often boring jobs that no human should be doing. But the unions keep those on the line and the bored worker doesn't get things fastened down properly and things fall apart a year or two later. My Subaru was built in an non-union plant but to date I have heard no complaints from their employees. Most likely they were wise and followed the tech company model of treat your employees right and they won't form a union. Unions are only necessary when people are being exploited. There's a NUMMI plant in Fremont, CA which is run by a Japanese manufacturer. From what I've heard, the plant is turning out good cars with American workers. From what I can recall, the plant is not unionized. Also the unions could take over the factories. If the economy gets really bad which I think it will, that may happen. It has happened in Argentina and is now happening in China! In China the owners are running away from their factories. I think the auto workers could probably come up with a better run company and build cars worth buying. Any business needs wise managers. I'm not sure if union officials are educated or have the expertise to manage a manufacturing plant. Good managers have to be well educated and excellent leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Gift
Wonderful, thanks for posting this ! Maharishi's Gift by Bob Klauber Even though Maharishi is no longer with us on the physical plane, his gifts to us were of the kind that just keep on giving. Of all those great gifts, the Invincible America Assembly is one of the greatest. Think back 28 months to where we and this country were at on the day he announced the beginning of this assembly. Our government was in the hands of those who championed GM foods, suppressed and distorted scientific research on global warming, and so much more. It is a long laundry list of activities that are anything but life-supporting. Then, think back to the last election we had, a little more than three months after the start of the IA course. Contrary to what any political pundit would have even considered remotely possible, control of congress changed hands, and we had a check on the non-life supporting activities of the executive branch. It was, in one word, a miracle. And we know why. We know why. Now today, two years after that miracle, we witness another miracle. A black man of prodigious intelligence, stainless integrity, and serenity unmatched in the political arena is our next president. I am not a young man. I have beheld many an election cycle, and seen, time after time, candidates that were pure of heart, and of exalted intelligence, go down to defeat, victims of a collective consciousness that simply could not fathom the stock of which they were made. Now, in the autumn of my life, I have witnessed a sea change in that collective consciousness. A decision made by the great mass of people in this country that would have been absolutely inconceivable just two plus years ago. And again .. we know why. Two years ago, I spoke to Maharishi about that election. I would like to repeat now, what I said then, as I think it is even more apropos today. Jai Guru Dev, Maharishi. I am a scientist and Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, though in recent years, due to the state of affairs in this country, I have become a political activist. As an activist, I have worked with thousands of other activists across our nation, all of us connected via internet, phone, and fax. I think many of us have pictured ourselves as miniature Arjunas, or Luke Skywalkers, fighting the good fight against the forces of darkness. Many of us have worked thousands of hours, and accomplished very little. In fact, the longer and harder we worked, the worse things got. Then, this course, the Invincible America Course, started. I cut back on my hours of activism, and instead, invested those hours in long program with the group here in the dome. Well, the results speak for themselves. The results speak for themselves. Previously, I was doing a whole lot, and accomplishing nothing. Now I am doing nothing, and accomplishing a whole lot. In the process, I re-learned, on a deeper level, some fundamental lessons from SCI. I re-learned, for example, where the source of invincibility really lies. Maharishi knows what has been, and is, in my heart. The pain, the frustration, the sense of futility, now transformed into elation and gratitude. So there is no need to say anything more, except .. Jai Guru Dev.
[FairfieldLife] 75 Posts this week also
On Alex's recommendation: My line of reasoning is that this has been such an enormously transformational election, and there has been some excellent discussion. Judy and Curtis are posting some great stuff. My vote is for one more week of 75 before going back to 50.
[FairfieldLife] Obama to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions and Executive Orders
Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse the president on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues, according to congressional Democrats, campaign aides and experts working with the transition team. A team of four dozen advisers, working for months in virtual solitude, set out to identify regulatory and policy changes Obama could implement soon after his inauguration. The team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs to prioritize those they regard as the most onerous or ideologically offensive, said a top transition official who was not permitted to speak on the record about the inner workings of the transition. In some instances, Obama would be quickly delivering on promises he made during his two-year campaign, while in others he would be embracing Clinton-era policies upended by President Bush during his eight years in office. The kind of regulations they are looking at are those imposed by Bush for overtly political reasons, in pursuit of what Democrats say was a partisan Republican agenda, said Dan Mendelson, a former associate administrator for health in the Clinton administration's Office of Management and Budget. The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees are rushing to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy. ~~ Details and more - Washington Post:
[FairfieldLife] Obama to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions and Executive Orders
Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse the president on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues, according to congressional Democrats, campaign aides and experts working with the transition team. A team of four dozen advisers, working for months in virtual solitude, set out to identify regulatory and policy changes Obama could implement soon after his inauguration. The team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs to prioritize those they regard as the most onerous or ideologically offensive, said a top transition official who was not permitted to speak on the record about the inner workings of the transition. In some instances, Obama would be quickly delivering on promises he made during his two-year campaign, while in others he would be embracing Clinton-era policies upended by President Bush during his eight years in office. The kind of regulations they are looking at are those imposed by Bush for overtly political reasons, in pursuit of what Democrats say was a partisan Republican agenda, said Dan Mendelson, a former associate administrator for health in the Clinton administration's Office of Management and Budget. The list of executive orders targeted by Obama's team could well get longer in the coming days, as Bush's appointees are rushing to enact a number of last-minute policies in an effort to extend his legacy. ~~ Details and more - Washington Post: http://tinyurl.com/62hc4q
[FairfieldLife] First Openly Gay Racehorse To Compete Sunday
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious challenges simultaneously. [snip] Oh, really? Which numerous serious challenges are you referring to? Like all the crap that was thrown at him during the campaign. Many pundits are commenting on how graciously he handled it, and how extraordinarily well-run his campaign was. Huge contrast with the McCain/Palin campaign.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
Woh! Shemp, are you actually serious? Not getting into an argument here, but there seem to be many other republican women infinitely more qualified than her. She seems to be a real intellectual light-weight and rather obtuse about issues outside of the US. Really? Serious? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions and Executive Orders
Hillary just wanted to be president of the United States, nothing more. We picked up on that, which is why she lost the bid and wasn't nominated to be Obama's running mate. Bill Clinton moved pretty quickly, holding economic summits (it's the economy, stupid) before taking office but Obama appears to the hardest working president elect in history. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:53 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2008, at 5:32 PM, do.rflex wrote: Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse the president on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues, according to congressional Democrats, campaign aides and experts working with the transition team. Great--this should definitely be first on his to-do list, ending the horrible policies and relegating the unelected administration that brought them to us into the dustbin. It can't happen too soon. Sal I really wonder if Hillary would have done it as thoroughly and quickly as it appears Barack wishes to do. I think Barack is going to be a no bullshit -very- effective get-things-done for regular Americans president. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president more than her. Take a look at the poll results below. - Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming positive feelings about Palin: Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable. When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts with 11%. Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low single- digit support. All Obama has to do is turn some things around and no one will vote for a Republican for a long time (if ever, more likely it will splinter off into other parties). As it is they would be foolish to run Palin. She should have stuck to being a news anchor. The era of electing someone you can have a beer with is over. It was one of the darkest, if not the darkest, era in American history and the public will be paying for it for a long time. All you have to do is show why they are paying for it. Game over. I wouldn't write off the Republicans just yet, Bhairitu...Obama isn't even president yet. A whole lot of things can happen in 4 years. To think that America is anything but a right-of-center country would be a mistake. Obama is the first Democrat to garner more than 50% of the popular vote since Jimmy Carter in '76 (and he only got 50.1% of the vote). Obama's margin of victory -- 6.5% -- was hardly a landslide...nor was his margin in the electoral college a landslide. But if he governs the country satisfactorily in the bi-partisan manner he has pledged to and he follows through on his election promises, he has a chance at a second term. His appointment of the Zionist Rahm Emanuel bodes well for the future in my estimation. But I would wait at least a year or two and see how things unfold before you start writing off a party that has occupied the White House for 28 of the last 40 years. Sure, run Palin for President in 2012 and Obama will have a second term easy. But I also think there is going to be some fallout among Republicans over the this last election and that may lead to some new parties. A lot of us would like to see some election reform. This last campaign went on far too long doncha think? Let's cut this nonsense down to a few months. Let's add instant runoff voting and open up to more parties.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You need a hominem for an ad hominem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Think if she had reeled off a list of African countries at her press conference, her critics would have realized how wrong they were and apologized? Or would they have suggested that there was plenty of time between when she first heard the charge and her press conference to have a quick look in an atlas, or just ask one of her aides? Your solution is a crock, Curtis. There's nothing she can do to refute the charge, because it's about what was purportedly the case *at the time*. You may be right. I was just going on the pattern we have seen from her already, to make personal attacks on Obama using innuendo and carfully crafted language which is hard to refute directly. But she doesn't do it *anonymously*, at least. She takes responsibility for it. So my solution may not work, but it was Palin who said she can't refute the charges without knowing who said it. How exactly would that help outside of personal attacks? Or perhaps she has other witnesses to the falseness of the statement, perhaps she could say: ask so and so, he was there too. Sure. Or, He wasn't there during that conversation. Ask so-and-so, who was. Or even just, That is not what I said to him. What I said was... The last becomes he said- she said if it was between only the two of them, but at least then she knows which specific conversation is being referred to. I am all for having the person accusing step forward. I'm just saying Palin's excuse that she has to know the person to counter the attack doesn't work for me. I really think you're mistaken on that point. The problem with Palin is not that she abused her power and charged a bunch of stuff, or wore a robe or towel inappropriately, Or quite possibly none of the above (or more likely neither of the last two). it is the obvious cognitive deficit we heard from her own mouth. I honestly don't think it's a cognitive deficit. I think she's actually pretty bright. It's how she expresses herself, her tendency to use rambling, disconnected sentences, which doesn't necessarily reflect lack of understanding. And it's definitely an information deficit, but not necessarily a startling one given her previous experience. (And even that may not be as bad as it's been portrayed; see my other post quoting one of the guys who was advising her on foreign policy.) And she has some *psychological* deficits in terms of her inability to recognize how unsuitable she was for her candidacy. But I think given the media magnetism of all things Palin, we are gunna get to her accusers interviewed. Then we can judge for ourselves. Frankly, I doubt that. I don't think they have the guts to be interviewed, mainly because I think most of what they've said is crap. McCain's loss can't be blamed on Palin, but on John choosing her. It is all on John no matter what details of Palin's intellectual deficits come out. Total agreement on that. He didn't do her any favors (I hope).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions and Executive Orders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hillary just wanted to be president of the United States, nothing more. What more are you referring to?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather. Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of course, you are not an idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, Rick. From Wikipedia: Idiot was originally created to refer to layman, person lacking professional skill, person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6 Declining to take part in public life, such as democratic government of the polis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis (city state), such as the Athenian democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy , was considered dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having bad judgment in public and political matters. Over time, the term idiot shifted away from its original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals with overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity . In modern English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language usage, the terms idiot and idiocy describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its symptoms (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation .[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7 I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains to you, who think global warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a terrible disservice, DDT was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible disservice, and now, that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as president. Bad judgment galore. That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to you in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously during the election. A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of serious challenges, and Obama met them more effectively than did any other candidate, so he won. Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the presidency and he is vastly superior. I can name over 10 prominent conservative leaders who came out against palin BEFORE the election, they didn't even wait until afterwards. I can't remember this ever happening. Evangelicals and rural LIVs love palin = she inspires or should I say arouses the basest of the republican base. Please Please Please run Palin for President!!!
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an idiot, no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin. And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather. Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of course, you are not an idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, Rick. From Wikipedia: Idiot was originally created to refer to layman, person lacking professional skill, person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6 Declining to take part in public life, such as democratic government of the polis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis (city state), such as the Athenian democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy , was considered dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having bad judgment in public and political matters. Over time, the term idiot shifted away from its original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals with overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity . In modern English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language usage, the terms idiot and idiocy describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its symptoms (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation .[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7 I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains to you, who think global warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a terrible disservice, DDT was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible disservice, and now, that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as president. Bad judgment galore. That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to you in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously during the election. A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of serious challenges, and Obama met them more effectively than did any other candidate, so he won. Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the presidency and he is vastly superior.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You need a hominem for an ad hominem
snip Think if she had reeled off a list of African countries at her press conference, her critics would have realized how wrong they were and apologized? Or would they have suggested that there was plenty of time between when she first heard the charge and her press conference to have a quick look in an atlas, or just ask one of her aides? Your solution is a crock, Curtis. There's nothing she can do to refute the charge, because it's about what was purportedly the case *at the time*. You may be right. I was just going on the pattern we have seen from her already, to make personal attacks on Obama using innuendo and carfully crafted language which is hard to refute directly. So my solution may not work, but it was Palin who said she can't refute the charges without knowing who said it. How exactly would that help outside of personal attacks? Or perhaps she has other witnesses to the falseness of the statement, perhaps she could say: ask so and so, he was there too. I am all for having the person accusing step forward. I'm just saying Palin's excuse that she has to know the person to counter the attack doesn't work for me. The problem with Palin is not that she abused her power and charged a bunch of stuff, or wore a robe or towel inappropriately, it is the obvious cognitive deficit we heard from her own mouth. But I think given the media magnetism of all things Palin, we are gunna get to her her accusers interviewed. Then we can judge for ourselves. McCain's loss can't be blamed on Palin, but on John choosing her. It is all on John no matter what details of Palin's intellectual deficits come out. We've all seen innumerable instances--many on this very forum--of people twisting what somebody said to make them look bad. Fortunately it's often possible to locate the original quote in the archives and document that it was twisted. Yet it doesn't seem to occur to some of us to ask whether that might be the case when we hear bad things about somebody we don't like but don't have access to any kind of record to verify them. I'd bet a good deal of money that this is *precisely* what Palin's anonymous smearers have done. (I've heard two different versions of her purported state of undress in her hotel room in the presence of a bunch of men: one that she was wearing only a towel, and the other that she was wearing a bathrobe. I'll bet she was wearing a *terrycloth* bathrobe, such as hotels often provide for guests, and that her smearers decided that because it was made of the same material as towels are, it would be cute to call it a towel rather than a bathrobe.) Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com, BTW, who has been extremely critical of Palin's candidacy, supports her in his column today: I actually agree entirely with Sarah Palin about this: the McCain aides willing to criticize her only behind the protective veil of anonymity are cowards. But that is the way of Washington: it's filled with people too craven to say what they think and attach their names to it, and criticisms are thus frequently launched, from all sides, only by people hiding behind reporters, who too often grant anonymity to protect and enable snide, petty sniping from cowardly Beltway operatives. It not only protects snide and petty sniping, I'd suggest, but also outright falsehood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A prediction on the heels of the apparent win of Prop 8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: When I read James Dickey's Deliverance and saw the movie, I didn't question that the queer hillbillies deserved to die for sexually assaulting the suburban canoers. In the movie, when it appeared that Jon Voight's character was going to have to take that cracker's dick in his mouth, I was repulsed as much as I could possibly be. I was relieved and triumphant when Burt Reynold's character killed the rapist by firing two arrows into his chest. But now, in my more mellow middle age, I think, What would Jesus do? I believe Jesus would suck the cracker's dick, and spare his life. Although well written as a whole, your last sentence is misguided to say the least. You could be right. Jesus may have opted for the alternative - to take a shotgun blast to the head. Gethsemane notwithstanding, He was a good sport about allowing himself to be sacrificed.
