[FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Edg, Thanks for sharing what fatherhood means to you. Beautiful. You are a fortunate man to have allowed yourself the experience of a profoundly loving relationship with your children at their birth. Very touching. I'll admit to having read the following 14 lines, mainly because I was curious as to what would impress a Raunchydog. And I'll give both Raunchy and Edg my honest opinion. It's *exactly the same kind of language* you hear from Dads hauled into court for child or spousal abuse. Ask Dr. Pete or Marek. *Every one of them* can trot out stuff like this. As well they should. They've practiced it often, every time they've had to try to talk their wives out of divorcing them. IMO it's a form of channeling. Ashamed of not being able to control their lower emotions, they think that they can somehow justify them by, for a short period of time, channeling a higher emotion to paint themselves as sympathetic and merely misunderstood. I don't buy it. I suspect that Edg writes this way about his kids because they won't have anything to do with him, and writing about them like this is the closest he can get to them. We've all seen how he lashes out at anyone who doesn't buy his act here on FFL; can we imagine that he'd be any different in a family situation? I might be wrong about this, but that's how the following paragraph strikes me. I'm helping to raise a new baby myself, the daughter of my best friend. And it's really neat. But so far I haven't felt the need to write about it here to show how sensitive and loving *I* am. Like the child abuser waxing poetic about how much he loves the kid covered with bruises, such language tends to ring a little false and self-serving. But hey!, Raunchy...if you like it, cool. Me, I just have higher standards when it comes to writing, and to people. The word that stands out for me in the paragraph below is narcissist. The entire paragraph is about how his kids made *Edg* feel, not about the kids themselves. It's the I love my kids because they make *me* feel special counterpart of I'm enlightened because believing I am makes *me* feel special. That's probably why Jim liked it, too. That and the fact that it was dumping on Barry. :-) Every child of mine was entirely unique, and this was clear to me instantly when each one took the very first breath. I cut their cords. I whispered into tiny ears my cosmic love pouring from a heart newly aflame, a heart bursting to unexpected heights. My whole being flowed into their every possible future and blessed it. I could not kiss them enough, could not hug them as tenderly as their preciousness deserved, could not tear my mind from the perfection of their potentials. I who am a narcissist, a Leo, had my rock-heart melted by the first glance when their eyes opened to see my face for the first time. The world could never be the same, I was theirs forever, and I loved the challenge it presented to me -- down to its quarks.
[FairfieldLife] Miss California Cheated out of Crown
To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace
FORWARDED: Sender: gcwpn...@... Date: Mon, 21 April 2009 12:10:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7c7e9987d0dd46d Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar, His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at ap...@motherdivinemerita.org. His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. According to His Majesty, the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the nature of this program, this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urg...@devinedevi.org. PROCLAMATION By the Royal Order of His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam, First Ruler of Vishwa Shanti Rashtra, The Global Country of World Peace In Preparation for the Auspicious Celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima Of the Year 2066 of the Vedic Calendar
[FairfieldLife] Weather in Southern F-land next weekend?
Weather in Southern Finland next weekend shall be extremely cold for the time of year, with blistering(?) sun shine, because of the ME?? *hiraNyayena* savitaa rathena aa devo yaati bhuvanaani pashyan
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace
I just *know* I'm gonna get flack for this, but I just can't resist. It's like giving a lifelong vaudeville comedian a straight line and expecting him not to respond with a joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Why is it that this announcement feels so appropriate coming right on the heels of women are only good for tempting men to leave the spiritual path JohnR talking about beauty contests? :-) Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. First wonderful buzzphrase -- ideal ladies. Call me sick, but I'm picturing a Barbie with no genitals dressed in a sari, walking several paces behind a Ken doll dressed in a white robe and wearing a crown. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar... This celebration will hopefully provide a bit of a break for the hard-working Rajas and Rajinis and Mothers Divine (more on this buzzphrase later), in between telling heads of school systems that TM is not a religion. ...His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). Why do I suddenly have a vision of Sister Aloysious from Doubt? And why does the phrase Old Nun's Club suddenly spring to mind? In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells... The mind boggles at the things that Old Nuns consider a celebration. ...His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine... Mothers Divine? Well, I guess it's better than Mother Divines. Can't be implying that there could be more than one Divine, can we? :-) ...who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. It IS an Old Nun's Club. I'm surprised there is not a dryness test as well as a length of time test as a criterion for membership. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita... Hold on here just a moment. Granted? Doesn't that sorta imply that these ladies are second-class citizens who can only be granted things by their betters, the men? And isn't granting these ladies a more lofty title while keeping them far, far away from the real reins of power in the TMO a lot like granting your secretary the title of administrative assistant while keeping her a secretary, and at the same salary? ...as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. I'm curious as to how these blessings occur. Is it the mechanism of not having sex that confers the blessings, or some other mechanism? Curious minds want to know. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. As soon as the men think them up and impose them on the ladies. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at ap...@... And we'll send you a printed-in-gold certificate that you can hang in your cube saying that you are now an administrative assistant, no longer a secretary. Get me another coffee, will you honey? His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. H. This sounds like a recruitment speech in high schools for Virgins For Jesus to me. According to His Majesty... And you should believe him because he has a title, just like you'll have if you join our new Virgins For Vishnu Club... ...the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. And to avoid becoming actual mothers by avoiding having sex. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest
Kuldip, The person who wrote that about Shiva is a fool. What can you do other than ignore him. He wants to hear himself talk and is not open to anything other than his own thoughts. --- On Mon, 4/20/09, kuldip jhala kulls2...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: kuldip jhala kulls2...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 11:52 PM i request the moderator whoever he is to either warn the person who wrote this crap and insulting thing about shiv or close this topic. what does the person know about india and their gods? atleast what does he know about shiv ? i bet he does not even know the full meaning of shiv and how he helps the governing first learn him , educate yourself and then say words out of your own mouth... tell me , what have you done all these years from learning of your beautiful jesus ? you all have been fighting amongst yourselves ... first know jesus first and then come here to ridicule other god's. i will not waste my time in telling what the author should do... god bless you always kuldip - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=c2pqaGFsYTEzMQ%3D%3D --- On Mon, 20/4/09, Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 8:53 PM do.rflex wrote: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest... Thanks for this, John - this certainly cannot compare to what the ex-TMers do in the forest down in Brazil! From: John Manning Subject: Shiva is a pussy Newsgroups: alt.meditation. transcendental Date: October 12, 2001 I have experienced the energy of 'Shiva'. 'He' is a lower level 'god' that only has the power that you give 'him'. Shiva, while real, (to the extent that YOU give him/it reality) is basically full of shit. Brahma and Vishnu are also full of shit and enjoy your worship - and have NO POWER if you don't kiss their asses. YOU are the cause and end result. That other stuff is crap compared to who you are. From a practical point of view, all you have to do is to look at India - the bastion of Shankara - and its pathetic results in human life; very similar to MMY's pathetic results and current endeavors. He can't even go back to India without facing massive tax violations. He would be arrested and taken into custody. Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slideshow of Maharishi Vedic Pandits in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: Please let us know what else you might like us to send along about Maharishi's pandit program for creating peace and affluence; and please continue to send us your suggestions for how to make this project happen more quickly.  With very best wishes,  Jai Guru Dev Raja Harris   P.S. If this newsletter was forwarded to you by a friend, you can sign up to have future issues sent directly to you by clicking here. If you would like to support the Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan you can make an on-line donation here. Whoa! That was way cool! For me, one of the best recitations I've ever heard!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Edg, Thanks for sharing what fatherhood means to you. Beautiful. You are a fortunate man to have allowed yourself the experience of a profoundly loving relationship with your children at their birth. Very touching. I'll admit to having read the following 14 lines, mainly because I was curious as to what would impress a Raunchydog. And I'll give both Raunchy and Edg my honest opinion. It's *exactly the same kind of language* you hear from Dads hauled into court for child or spousal abuse. Ask Dr. Pete or Marek. *Every one of them* can trot out stuff like this. As well they should. They've practiced it often, every time they've had to try to talk their wives out of divorcing them. IMO it's a form of channeling. Ashamed of not being able to control their lower emotions, they think that they can somehow justify them by, for a short period of time, channeling a higher emotion to paint themselves as sympathetic and merely misunderstood. I don't buy it. I suspect that Edg writes this way about his kids because they won't have anything to do with him, and writing about them like this is the closest he can get to them. We've all seen how he lashes out at anyone who doesn't buy his act here on FFL; can we imagine that he'd be any different in a family situation? I might be wrong about this, but that's how the following paragraph strikes me. I'm helping to raise a new baby myself, the daughter of my best friend. And it's really neat. But so far I haven't felt the need to write about it here to show how sensitive and loving *I* am. Like the child abuser waxing poetic about how much he loves the kid covered with bruises, such language tends to ring a little false and self-serving. Barry, I think it's great you are helping to raise a baby. It's a beautiful experience. How do you feel about it? Share. But hey!, Raunchy...if you like it, cool. Me, I just have higher standards when it comes to writing, and to people. The word that stands out for me in the paragraph below is narcissist. The entire paragraph is about how his kids made *Edg* feel, not about the kids themselves. It's the I love my kids because they make *me* feel special counterpart of I'm enlightened because believing I am makes *me* feel special. That's probably why Jim liked it, too. That and the fact that it was dumping on Barry. :-) Every child of mine was entirely unique, and this was clear to me instantly when each one took the very first breath. I cut their cords. I whispered into tiny ears my cosmic love pouring from a heart newly aflame, a heart bursting to unexpected heights. My whole being flowed into their every possible future and blessed it. I could not kiss them enough, could not hug them as tenderly as their preciousness deserved, could not tear my mind from the perfection of their potentials. I who am a narcissist, a Leo, had my rock-heart melted by the first glance when their eyes opened to see my face for the first time. The world could never be the same, I was theirs forever, and I loved the challenge it presented to me -- down to its quarks.
[FairfieldLife] Essential 'Quiet-Time' Meditation
Essential Meditation EM Secular enough? Would this be secular enough for public schools http://essentialmeditation.org:80/eng/ an adjunct Technique or method to use within consciousness-based education of the classroom quiet-time?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Barry, I think it's great you are helping to raise a baby. It's a beautiful experience. How do you feel about it? Share. It's a very it takes a village to raise a child experience, for many reasons. The biggest is because my best friend is part of a polyamorous relationship, and thus there are three live-in parents, not two. Seeing them actually get along and share equally in all aspects of raising a daughter is pretty inspiring. I'm not there all the time, only as needed. So it is sometimes several days or a week between times that I get to see Maya. ( Maya the little girl, not Maya the concept. :-) Thus I actually have more of a perspective on how much she has changed since I saw her last than the parents do. They're there 24/7, and so big changes sometimes escape their notice because they're so gradual. Me, because I'm not there all the time and because I am by nature a people watcher, I tend to notice. Often I'm the first to point out a big change, like the transition between not being able to move her head to follow people as they moved and being able to. Or her discovery of the wonders of having feet. :-) She's only three months old, so she doesn't say much yet. :-) But she has already laughed out loud (not just smiled), so that's pretty neat. A good sign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barry, I think it's great you are helping to raise a baby. It's a beautiful experience. How do you feel about it? Share. It's a very it takes a village to raise a child experience, for many reasons. Thanks for plugging Hillary's first book. http://www.happinessonline.org/LoveAndHelpChildren/p12.htm The biggest is because my best friend is part of a polyamorous relationship, and thus there are three live-in parents, not two. Seeing them actually get along and share equally in all aspects of raising a daughter is pretty inspiring. What is inspiring about it? What is the gender mix? I'm not there all the time, only as needed. So it is sometimes several days or a week between times that I get to see Maya. ( Maya the little girl, not Maya the concept. :-) Are you the babysitter when the three parents want to go out for the evening? Or do you visit with one or more of the parents present? Thus I actually have more of a perspective on how much she has changed since I saw her last than the parents do. They're there 24/7, and so big changes sometimes escape their notice because they're so gradual. Me, because I'm not there all the time and because I am by nature a people watcher, I tend to notice. Often I'm the first to point out a big change, like the transition between not being able to move her head to follow people as they moved and being able to. Or her discovery of the wonders of having feet. :-) She's only three months old, so she doesn't say much yet. :-) But she has already laughed out loud (not just smiled), so that's pretty neat. A good sign. Barry, I guess the experience of being an observer of a family unit and being a peripheral father, gives you some emotional distance, that doesn't challenge your comfort zone, to the extent you are able to report seeing signs of childhood development rather than how you feel about it. Perhaps it explains why you cannot relate to how Edg feels about his children. His ability to write about his children so passionately, and beautifully comes from intimately experiencing the pain and joys of raising children. He can write about it because he has opened his heart fully to the experience of fatherhood. He is blessed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:55 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I admit to having read maybe about 50 lines, to try and see if there were any pearls I might have otherwise missed. I really didn't. *Whatever* the subject matter, I can rarely get through more than a few lines of any Edgpost. The reason is that I don't get off on a genre of writing called emotional junkie-ism. That's where writers mistake a surge of strong emotion for creativity. The more strong the emotion feels, the better they think their writing is. There is always a kind of desperation about this kind of writing that I don't enjoy. Because when the current surge of emotion wears off, the writers in question often find that they have nothing to say, and have to artificially create another surge before they can write again. This often takes the form of abuse of drugs or alcohol, or something we see often on this forum, manu- factured outrage. Think Rush Limbaugh. That's the problem with writing like this...it's a kind of junk food. Good description, Barry. Every now and then empty calories are what I want, I guess. Or at least what I'm willing to put up with. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Barry Wright doesn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:55 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I admit to having read maybe about 50 lines, to try and see if there were any pearls I might have otherwise missed. I really didn't. *Whatever* the subject matter, I can rarely get through more than a few lines of any Edgpost. The reason is that I don't get off on a genre of writing called emotional junkie-ism. That's where writers mistake a surge of strong emotion for creativity. The more strong the emotion feels, the better they think their writing is. There is always a kind of desperation about this kind of writing that I don't enjoy. Because when the current surge of emotion wears off, the writers in question often find that they have nothing to say, and have to artificially create another surge before they can write again. This often takes the form of abuse of drugs or alcohol, or something we see often on this forum, manu- factured outrage. Think Rush Limbaugh. That's the problem with writing like this...it's a kind of junk food. Good description, Barry. Every now and then empty calories are what I want, I guess. Or at least what I'm willing to put up with. That's exactly it from the reader's point of view -- a junk food sugar rush. From the writer's point of view it's often more debilitating, and often marks the dif- ference between people who consider themselves writers and real writers. It's EASY to write when you're all caught up in an emotional experience or a strong mood. The words just flow out. However, there are two problems with this kind of writing. The first is that the words often are not really very good, and the writer cannot see that *because* of the strength of the mood. He or she tends to believe, If I felt that strongly about it as I was writing it, it had to have come from a 'deeper place,' and thus *has* to be good. Sadly, this is often not the case. The second problem is that this kind of writing is addicting. One gets hooked on the emotional highs, and when they are not present, writers of this ilk often tend to be able NOT to write. So they create *artificial* emotion via drugs, alcohol, manufactured anger, artificial bhakti, etc., hoping to jack themselves up enough that they can write again. Leads to a lot of burnouts. I can speak about this with some humility because I've been there, done that. But one of the things you learn if you actually become a journeyman writer -- someone who has to write to deadline and churn out not only output but *quality* output on a consistent basis -- is that you can't rely on this. First it's a burnout, and second it's very illusory in terms of quality. It's a similar situation in my opinion to those seekers who confuse strong emotional experiences with spiritual experience. For them, the stronger and more overwhelming the emotion they feel about their spiritual teacher or God or whatever is, the more spiritual an experience it is. While I understand this point of view, my experience in life tells me that it's just not true. Truly profound spiritual experiences are NOT overwhelming; they feel natural and normal. A person having a strong samadhi experience who is suddenly needed to handle an emergency CAN handle it, without feeling the least bit spaced out or fragile or emotional about having to do so. But all this is Just My Opinion, as always. I'm sure there are people who really get off on over-the-top, out-of-control emotion presented as if it were art. Many of them are Glenn Beck or Tammy Faye Baker fans. :-)
[FairfieldLife] The Turq Effect Leads the Way :)
April 21, 2009 Spain's Falling Prices Fuel Deflation Fears in Europe By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ VALENCIA, Spain Faced with plunging orders, merchants across this recession-wracked country are starting to do something that many of them have never done: cut retail prices. Prices dipped everywhere, from restaurants and fashion retailers to pharmacies and supermarkets in March. Hoping to increase sales, Fernando Maestre reduced prices by a third on the video intercoms his company makes for homes and apartment buildings. But that has not helped, so, along with many other Spanish employers, he is continuing to fire workers. The nation's jobless rate, already a painful 15.5 percent, could soon reach 20 percent, a troubling number for a major industrialized country. With the combination of rising unemployment and falling prices, economists fear Spain may be in the early grip of deflation, a hallmark of both the Great Depression and Japan's lost decade of the 1990s, and a major concern since the financial crisis went global last year. Deflation can result in a downward spiral that can be difficult to reverse. As unemployment rises sharply and consumers cut spending, companies cut prices. But if sales do not pick up, then revenue can decline further, forcing more cuts in workers or wages. Mr. Maestre is already contemplating additional job and wage cuts for his 250 employees. Nowhere is this cycle more evident than in Spain. Last month, it became the first of the 16 nations that use the euro to record a negative inflation rate. The drop, though just 0.1 percent, had not happened since the government began tracking inflation in 1961, and Spanish officials have said prices could keep dropping through the summer. Some of the decline came as volatile food prices sank; the cost of fish fell 6.2 percent, and sugar was down 5.7 percent. But even prices in normally stable sectors like drugs and medical treatments fell 0.7 percent in March, and there were slight declines in footwear, clothing and prices for household electronics. Alarm bells are going off, said Lorenzo Amor, president of the Association of Autonomous Workers, which represents small businesses and self-employed people. Economies can recover from deceleration, but it's harder to recover from a deflationary situation. This could be a catastrophe for the Spanish economy. Deflation is not just a Spanish concern. Luxembourg, Portugal and Ireland have reported price drops, too. While the declines have been slight and prices rose modestly after factoring out food and energy prices, which can fluctuate widely other figures released this month suggest the risk of deflation is growing. In Germany, wholesale prices dropped 8 percent in March from a year ago, the steepest fall since 1987. In Japan, wholesale prices fell 2.2 percent on an annual basis. In the United States, the Consumer Price Index fell 0.1 percent in March, year over year, the first decline of its kind since 1955, though prices rose 0.2 percent excluding food and energy. It doesn't mean it will spread here to the U.S., but we need to look closely at Spain and other places to understand the dynamic, says Simon Johnson, a professor at the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a former chief economist for the International Monetary Fund. It's like the front line of a new virus outbreak. The trends have unnerved even well-established businesses. There is such a huge lack of confidence in the politicians, in the European Union and in the banks, said Arturo Virosque, 79, president of Valencia's chamber of commerce and the owner of a local logistics company. Ticking off crises going back to the Spanish Civil War in his youth, he said, this is different. It's like an illness. After price cuts by competitors, Mr. Virosque's company reduced charges for storage and transportation, and slashed its work force to about 170, from 250. The worst thing is that we have to cut the young people, he said, because higher severance makes it too expensive to fire older workers. While unemployment traditionally is higher in Spain than in much of Europe, the sharp increase has many here nervous. The jobless rate for those under 25 is at a Depression-like level of 31.8 percent, the highest among the 27 nations of the European Union. Before cutting prices in early 2009, Mr. Maestre ordered several rounds of job cuts at his company, Fermax, as sales of the intercoms collapsed with Spain's housing bubble. It's a question of survival for everybody, he said. Still, the lower prices have not translated into higher sales. Fermax's orders fell 25 percent in the first quarter. Prices for some intercom parts that he buys, like video screens, have also come down, but it is not enough to make up for the sales drought. Prices have to come down more and we will have to spend less, he said. The effects of this downward spiral are evident
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Nice one Lurk. I wrote a couple of satires myself and one went in the prison-term direction, but yours was better than mine. Then I had one about one-eyed-pants-pirate worship but it was just too predictably Curtis. Once I read yours I realized that shiv had been duly worshiped. Excellent! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kuldip jhala kulls2005@ wrote: i request the moderator whoever he is to either warn the person who wrote this crap and insulting thing about shiv or close this topic. what does the person know about india and their gods? atleast what does he know about shiv ? Shiv is very useful in a fight. In prison Shivs are fashioned by many objects, and indeed are dutifully worshipped by inmates i bet he does not even know the full meaning of shiv and how he helps the governing Shiv is paramount in governing, especially in tight situations. And in the aforesaid prison environment the full meaning of Shiv is indeed appreciated first learn him , educate yourself and then say words out of your own mouth... When confronting one with the power of Shiv, one should certainly be careful of what comes out of one's mouth tell me , what have you done all these years from learning of your beautiful jesus ? you all have been fighting amongst yourselves ... first know jesus first and then come here to ridicule other god's. i will not waste my time in telling what the author should do... god bless you always kuldip - Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=c2pqaGFsYTEzMQ%3D%3D --- On Mon, 20/4/09, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: From: Richard J. Williams willytex@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 8:53 PM do.rflex wrote: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest... Thanks for this, John - this certainly cannot compare to what the ex-TMers do in the forest down in Brazil! From: John Manning Subject: Shiva is a pussy Newsgroups: alt.meditation. transcendental Date: October 12, 2001 I have experienced the energy of 'Shiva'. 'He' is a lower level 'god' that only has the power that you give 'him'. Shiva, while real, (to the extent that YOU give him/it reality) is basically full of shit. Brahma and Vishnu are also full of shit and enjoy your worship - and have NO POWER if you don't kiss their asses. YOU are the cause and end result. That other stuff is crap compared to who you are. From a practical point of view, all you have to do is to look at India - the bastion of Shankara - and its pathetic results in human life; very similar to MMY's pathetic results and current endeavors. He can't even go back to India without facing massive tax violations. He would be arrested and taken into custody. Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Go to http://in.movies.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest
Peter wrote: The person who wrote that about Shiva is a fool. No shit, Peter. From: John Manning Subject: TM is a cult Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: September 25, 2001 I think Maharishi saved his ass after threats of exposure of his sexual pecadillos. His empire, to me today, is not much different than any other corporate entity. It certainly is NOT 'heaven on earth' and it is very far removed from anything akin to Divinity. I refuse to hear 'justification' for his bullshit. Bullshit is bullshit. This is 'guru' bullshit. To me, it is bullshit of the highest order. (It has the worst stench when it claims Divinity and is NOT.) I fully expect proponents of TM and Maharishi to respond. Don't bother. I, myself, was brainwashed in this shit. I know how it works on both sides. Hayam dukam anagatam - The shit that has not yet landed on you is worth avoiding. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev: While staying in the forest . . .
'The God's Devotee can never stay dejected. While staying in the forests, we were always under the all-powerful nature of Paramatman. There in the deep forests, where there are no facilities for living are easily available; all needs of the devotee were looked into by Paramatman. How can a prince experience any need in his own Kingdom? The devotee of the all-powerful Lord, wherever, in any of the three worlds he might be, he is the prince and so he will live in bliss. How can the all-powerful Lord tolerate the suffering of his devotee? Through one's faith, devotion and trust in Paramatman alone and none else, it is certain to get the Lord's attention. From then onwards Paramatman himself will look after the well being of the devotee. There will be no need to pray for one's welfare. When the son gets sick, he requests the father to get him treated and then the father acts. Is it? Since the father will not be able to see his son suffer. Even without asking, he will do his best to get his son cured. Thus, who becomes Paramatman's, who wrests Paramatman's love for themselves, for them Paramatman, without even a request, will do the needful. It is an experienced fact, that Paramatman's devotee can never be unhappy.' From - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] 'On Supply' http://srigurudev.net/gurudev/discourses.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Turq Effect Leads the Way :)
grate.swan posted: The American economy is less vulnerable to deflation... Soon, over one third of the U.S. Senate and all of the House of Representatives will be up for reelection. That's when the American voters will decide who or not has been doing their job. If the payroll taxes are higher, and the economy is still on the down slide, and there is still a double-digit deficit, the current congressional leaders will be voted out of office. It isn't just the bail-outs that get people angry, it's the runaway spending and pork-barreling by the congress. There will be 'Tea Parties' all over the country! If deflation, due to government spending, causes the dollar to slide, there will be hell to pay around election time in two years. If there is no economic success with the current administration, my prediction is that independent candidates will take over the U.S. Congress - both the current Repugs and the Dems will be out of a job. Fifty-one percent (51%) of Americans have a favorable view of the 'tea parties' held nationwide last week, including 32% who say their view of the events is Very favorable. Full report: '51% View Tea Parties Favorably, Political Class Strongly Disagrees' Rasmussen Reports, Monday, April 20, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/c7grm9
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev: While staying in the forest . . .
do.rflex wrote: While staying in the forest... Thanks for this, John - the results are right in front of my eyeballs. LOL! From: John Manning Subject: Re: Quote from Maharishi Forum: Yahoo! TMControversy Date: Monday Aug 5, 2002 Acronymns 'R' Us, for 'science'? Hiding the obvious is 'scientific'? What a dance it is to argue the absurd. What a shame. What a comedy/tradgedy. It's so fucking obvious - unless you're invested in the lie and it's critical to your personal 'income'. In other words, you've purchased the BS and are committed to the results 'in those terms'. You will get what you have purchased. Some of us can see this clearly. The *results* are in front of the eyeballs. Look around at the TM org. Ya' don't go to God's realm with a 'mechanical technique' and without God or love. That ain't too hard ta understand - even for a dope like me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
below curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip Judy (from a post on alt.m.t): We've discussed this before here, and TMers chimed in about their own initiations; some knelt, some didn't. I didn't. There's no pressure to do so. Some who had more recently learned TM said there hadn't even been an *invitation* to kneel. ME: No one if forced to kneel. But the presumptive motion we make as we kneel,indicating that they kneel worked every time I used it. I never had anyone in all my teaching, not kneel. The impression that some do and some don't is a vast overstatement of people who do not. It would require a pretty strong oppositional personality or a person who had their own religious convictions to not go along. Must have been lots of 'em on alt.m.t and among the TMers I knew, then. Some do, some don't is not an overstatement in terms of my observation and that of others on alt.m.t, including one TM teacher. Perhaps other teachers can weigh in. This is not a big point it is just so different from my experience. When I motioned for the person to kneel, I did a big sweep of the hand and arm -- a purposeful and obvious -- though wordlessly done -- instruction to the initiate that kneeling was being suggested, AND, I looked them in the face before I did it -- to make sure my motion had their attention. Out of thousands, only two people didn't kneel. I think it's a question of how big and obvious the gesture is and the body/face posture/look that the teacher gives the initiate. My initiator did this tiny little move -- I bet he had a bigger pecentage of folks who didn't kneel. But, for me, people were quite compliant and willing to go along with watching (not witnessing) the puja, and that's the first step onto the slippery slope of participation. They're past some sort of psychological tipping point, and when the kneeling instruction comes, I would guess that many of them say to themselves, What the fuck, I've gone this far -- fruit, flowers, hanky, and me standing here in my socks with the hole in the heel holding a flower while this teacher is smoking up the room burning sticks, rice and something that looks like crack cocaine before a photo of this stern unsmiling dude who looks like he's seriously pissed. So, I'll kneel -- might as well play along with this -- why upset this instructor unnecessarily -- I'll get the mantra and that's what I paid for. Judy: Even if the student *does* choose to kneel at the end, he or she spends most of the ceremony standing off to the side, just watching, contrary to the post I was responding to which claimed by analogy, falsely, that the student was on his knees throughout and very directly participated. ME: Just watching IS how you participate in a Hindu puja. Just watching is how you participate in a movie, too. This is a false comparative. You don't witness a person making offerings (that you brought) on an alter at the movies either. The witnessing part is not the totality of your participation. It's not all one piece, right? It's not just one thing that is being done when the initiate is doing what we call witnessing. The act of witnessing is really, say, hundreds of individual moments of consciousness -- some of which were processes about 'what was happening' by egoic brain functions during the puja. The person's ego is definitely participating by simply standing there, instead of, say, walking out of the room, or thinking about some other topic. The person is making this decision to stand there and attend, and attend again and attend again. At any moment there's this updating my recent decision process going on in the person's mind -- not a bigass debate, not some intense internal back and forthing about should I stay here, but a constant drone of I'll just stand here, this is interesting, this is cool etc. The ego is kneeling (surrendering to, cooperating with, doing what the teacher said to do) to that decisioning. Itertatively, one gives permission to oneself to continue the process of cooperating with this teaching procedure. This is not witnessing by my definition -- it's a many-increments-processing of the mind that results in one serially kneeling to the situation. This is good preperation for the ego to get used to doing what the teacher instructs, and when the time comes to kneel -- for most, it's a gimme -- they'll do it. This form of doingness simply cannot be called witnessing-in-its-purest-spiritual meaning. Of course, the witness is always there behind the workings of the mind, and the purpose of TM is too train the person to get to that level of least excitation where that witness' acutality can be realized. This argument doesn't work when it involves an *absence*
[FairfieldLife] Learning Social Graces
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[FairfieldLife] Learning Social Graces
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. Think Queens. (No, not the rajas in full regalia!). Fresh young meat for the rajas to create and perpetuate the royal lineages. Don't want any dried out 35 year olds for that. And certainly not someone who has been on the MD program for 15 + years -- the rajas know they are Wacko. No, fresh young innocent things who will hang on every profound word uttered by the rajas in the magnificent Court of King Tony. Young, fresh vibrant -- with the abilities to enable the aging rajas rise to the occasion and usher in the experience of real Heaven on Earth -- in the act of perpetuating the divine and royal lines. There will be two groups -- the Queens and the Consorts -- the latter basically a scholarship program. The work your way into Heaven program for less fortunate, but highly endowed and greatly talented young ladies. And one of the greatest barriers to Heaven on Earth will soon be melting -- the prohibitions against multiple wives! Soon each raj may have Queens and Consorts up the wazzo -- (well unfortunate image there.) Be all that you can be for your King. The Court of King Tony just wants a few Good Ladies. Auditions starting at 8pm. H. This sounds like a recruitment speech in high schools for Virgins For Jesus to me. According to His Majesty... And you should believe him because he has a title, just like you'll have if you join our new Virgins For Vishnu Club... ...the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. And to avoid becoming actual mothers by avoiding having sex. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the nature of this program, this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. Ladies between 18 and 22 whose aspiration in life is to someday be granted member- ship in the Old Nun's Club by men. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. Hell, Virgins For Vishnu will take you if you're 12 as long as you swear off sex and promise to walk at least three paces behind the Rajas at all times. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program... Excited in a Good Way, that is...not that Bad Way that we're trying to save you from. ...and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. Possibly after hours, somewhere the Rajinis can't interrupt us. We promise not to ask you any embarrassing questions about gay marriage. :-) If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urgent@ In other words, if they can't find a MAN to talk to them about becoming a member of the Virgins For Vishnu Club, they can settle for the next best thing, talking to a member of the Old Nun's Club. All I can say is, if this is the future that the men of the TM movement envision for women when Heaven On Earth dawns, I sure pity the women. Ooops. Ladies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? Why do you assume that John watched the beauty contest? I didn't watch it but know of the controversy because it was covered all over the internet. Indeed, I dare say that only a small percentage of the US population (5%?) watched the actual contest but many, many more know of the controversy. The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Turq Effect Leads the Way :)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: If there is no economic success with the current administration, my prediction is that independent candidates will take over the U.S. Congress - both the current Repugs and the Dems will be out of a job. Is there that capacity for change? If so, how marvellous! (I mean to have that flexibility. I wouldn't know from my vantage point whether that would be an improvement over Repugs/Dems). Here in the UK I can't imagine our political landscape shifting much no matter WHAT happens. We have oligarchy IMO: a ruling elite in politics and the media.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
Hey, how hard would it be to put the number of words, sentences, paragraphs also into this report. Turq did me a major kindness the other day and counted my sentences, and I kinda got off on the sheer productivity of the number.ego, only ego, yeah, but hey, it could be interesting in that we'd measure the folks by a deeper dynamic. If someone posts 50 messages but only produced 500 words, they'd be seen as folks who are satisfied to pepper FFL with blurbification. Those like me would stand out as blabbermouths. Could be some insights about us would be clarified. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 18 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 25 00:00:00 2009 334 messages as of (UTC) Tue Apr 21 00:09:51 2009 42 authfriend jst...@... 25 Richard J. Williams willy...@... 23 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 22 Rick Archer r...@... 22 Marek Reavis reavisma...@... 19 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 Vaj vajradh...@... 14 Kirk kirk_bernha...@... 14 I am the eternal l.shad...@... 13 raunchydog raunchy...@... 12 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com 12 grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com 11 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... 10 Robert babajii...@... 9 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... 7 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... 5 mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... 5 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 Mike Doughney m...@... 4 shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... 4 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... 4 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 Bhairitu noozg...@... 3 sparaig lengli...@... 3 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... 3 Hugo richardhughes...@... 3 do.rflex do.rf...@... 2 shukra69 shukr...@... 2 michael vedamer...@... 2 Peter drpetersutp...@... 2 Dick Mays dickm...@... 1 jyouells2000 john_youe...@... 1 geezerfreak geezerfr...@... 1 ffl...@... 1 arhatafreespe...@... 1 wle...@... 1 Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... 1 Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... 1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... Posters: 40 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Hey, how hard would it be to put the number of words, sentences, paragraphs also into this report. Turq did me a major kindness the other day and counted my sentences, and I kinda got off on the sheer productivity of the number.ego, only ego, yeah, but hey, it could be interesting in that we'd measure the folks by a deeper dynamic. If someone posts 50 messages but only produced 500 words, they'd be seen as folks who are satisfied to pepper FFL with blurbification. Those like me would stand out as blabbermouths. Could be some insights about us would be clarified. Great idea! Its like so hard right now to figure out who runs off at the mouth and who doesn't. Now we can have charts and graphs. One more idea though, how about a count of the number of insightful and/or original points in each post. And then we can have an insight per 100 lines type metric. (No, negative numbers will NOT be allowed).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: FORWARDED: Sender: gcwpnews@ Date: Mon, 21 April 2009 12:10:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7c7e9987d0dd46d Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar, His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at ap...@... His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. According to His Majesty, the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the nature of this program, this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urg...@... PROCLAMATION By the Royal Order of His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam, First Ruler of Vishwa Shanti Rashtra, The Global Country of World Peace In Preparation for the Auspicious Celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima Of the Year 2066 of the Vedic Calendar Hey, all of you ideal ladies out there in Vishwa Shanti Rashtra land (and you know who you are)still think TM isn't a religion?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
And what words made you think it was not a spoof! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: FORWARDED: Sender: gcwpnews@ Date: Mon, 21 April 2009 12:10:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7c7e9987d0dd46d Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar, His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at apply@ His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. According to His Majesty, the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the nature of this program, this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urgent@ PROCLAMATION By the Royal Order of His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam, First Ruler of Vishwa Shanti Rashtra, The Global Country of World Peace In Preparation for the Auspicious Celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima Of the Year 2066 of the Vedic Calendar Hey, all of you ideal ladies out there in Vishwa Shanti Rashtra land (and you know who you are)still think TM isn't a religion?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sex education in Georgia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Anti-abortion extremist Neal Horsley was a guest on FOX News' radio program The Alan Colmes Show. The topic was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of targeting them and one doctor had been killed. In the course of the interview, however, Colmes asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex. Yes, and so did the queens who were the center of the Great Horse Sacrafices. Whats your point? Oh, wait. That could be the next step. A third tier of Ladies / Queens. Ready and able to be part of the greatest yagyas the earth has ever seen -- and essential to usher in heaven on Earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. Think Queens. (No, not the rajas in full regalia!). Fresh young meat for the rajas to create and perpetuate the royal lineages. I have to admit, the wording here DID cause a similar thought in me. Perhaps it was the the Rajas are all very excited about this program thang. :-) Don't want any dried out 35 year olds for that. And certainly not someone who has been on the MD program for 15 + years -- the rajas know they are Wacko. No, fresh young innocent things who will hang on every profound word uttered by the rajas in the magnificent Court of King Tony. Young, fresh vibrant -- with the abilities to enable the aging rajas rise to the occasion and usher in the experience of real Heaven on Earth -- in the act of perpetuating the divine and royal lines. There IS that. I posed the question of succession once before on this forum, and no one addressed it. As far as I know, there is no plan in place for who takes over when King Tony croaks...uh, I mean passes over into the Divine Splendor of Brahma- loka, where He will sit at the right hand of Maharishi and look down on all the gods and goddesses. There will be two groups -- the Queens and the Consorts -- the latter basically a scholarship program. The work your way into Heaven program for less fortunate, but highly endowed and greatly talented young ladies. And one of the greatest barriers to Heaven on Earth will soon be melting -- the prohibitions against multiple wives! Soon each raj may have Queens and Consorts up the wazzo -- (well unfortunate image there.) It would certainly make things more interesting. :-) Be all that you can be for your King. The Court of King Tony just wants a few Good Ladies. Auditions starting at 8pm. Having become a complete addict of the Kings series on American TV, I can definitely see this happening. And I could see people here who have railed against extramarital sex (or sex, period) for years switching over and supporting it wholeheartedly, without missing a beat.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace
OK, now that I read the actual proclamation, I see it is a spoof. Hard to out spoof a spoof. (unfortunate choice of words there.) this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. Uh, why would country of residence be important there? Hmmm. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program They can barely hold it. and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urg...@... The CraigsList Casual Encounters equivalent for the Rajas) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: FORWARDED: Sender: gcwpnews@ Date: Mon, 21 April 2009 12:10:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7c7e9987d0dd46d Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar, His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at ap...@... His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. According to His Majesty, the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. Please distribute this Royal Proclamation to all ladies. Given the nature of this program, this program is limited to ladies between 18 and 22 years of age. In special cases, ladies as young as 15 years of age will be considered depending on their country of residence at the time of application. All interested ladies should know that their local Rajas are very, very excited about this program and are immediately available to personally answer all questions related to this beautiful program. If it is not immediately possible to speak with their local Raja, ladies are requested to contact the Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace office by email at urg...@... PROCLAMATION By the Royal Order of His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam, First Ruler of Vishwa Shanti Rashtra, The Global Country of World Peace In Preparation for the Auspicious Celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima Of the Year 2066 of the Vedic Calendar
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: And what words made you think it was not a spoof! Fascinating that two of those here who are the most scornful of the excesses of the TMO failed to recognize it as a spoof... And it's the TMers who are supposed not to have any sense of humor!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I just *know* I'm gonna get flack for this, but I just can't resist. It's like giving a lifelong vaudeville comedian a straight line and expecting him not to respond with a joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Why is it that this announcement feels so appropriate coming right on the heels of women are only good for tempting men to leave the spiritual path JohnR talking about beauty contests? :-) Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. First wonderful buzzphrase -- ideal ladies. Call me sick, but I'm picturing a Barbie with no genitals dressed in a sari, walking several paces behind a Ken doll dressed in a white robe and wearing a crown. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar... This celebration will hopefully provide a bit of a break for the hard-working Rajas and Rajinis and Mothers Divine (more on this buzzphrase later), in between telling heads of school systems that TM is not a religion. ...His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). Why do I suddenly have a vision of Sister Aloysious from Doubt? And why does the phrase Old Nun's Club suddenly spring to mind? In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells... The mind boggles at the things that Old Nuns consider a celebration. ...His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine... Mothers Divine? Well, I guess it's better than Mother Divines. Can't be implying that there could be more than one Divine, can we? :-) ...who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. It IS an Old Nun's Club. I'm surprised there is not a dryness test as well as a length of time test as a criterion for membership. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita... Hold on here just a moment. Granted? Doesn't that sorta imply that these ladies are second-class citizens who can only be granted things by their betters, the men? And isn't granting these ladies a more lofty title while keeping them far, far away from the real reins of power in the TMO a lot like granting your secretary the title of administrative assistant while keeping her a secretary, and at the same salary? ...as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. I'm curious as to how these blessings occur. Is it the mechanism of not having sex that confers the blessings, or some other mechanism? Curious minds want to know. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. As soon as the men think them up and impose them on the ladies. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at apply@ And we'll send you a printed-in-gold certificate that you can hang in your cube saying that you are now an administrative assistant, no longer a secretary. Get me another coffee, will you honey? His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. H. This sounds like a recruitment speech in high schools for Virgins For Jesus to me. According to His Majesty... And you should believe him because he has a title, just like you'll have if you join our new Virgins For Vishnu Club... ...the goal of Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace is to create a Royal Family of the Global Country of World Peace to ensure enlightenment administration of the world for all mankind for all generations.
[FairfieldLife] FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research [1 Attachment]
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:37 AM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research Dear Colleagues, Below is a letter from Miral Shaaban in Cairo, Egypt, which relates how practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique has enriched the depth of her appreciation of her Muslim faith. I have added this letter to the collection of such letters posted on TruthAboutTM.com. I have also attached an updated Bibliography of independent research publications on TM 1970-2009, compiled by Dr. Roger Chalmers for the UK TM Web site. Please delete previous versions. All the best, David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Top Letters from Religious Leaders and Persons of Faith on the Transcendental Meditation Program A universal theme in these letters from religious leaders and persons is that the Transcendental Meditation program deepens their own spiritual life and enhances their comprehension and love of their own tradition. They note that it does not require any belief or change in life style to practice. They point out that the technique has been scientifically validated http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/Research/TMResearchPublications/index.cfm to reduce stress http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm#stress and improve mental clarity http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforEducation/ind ex.cfm , health http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm , and interpersonal relations http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm#social , which are beneficial to any cultural tradition and which serve to increase appreciation and tolerance of other people's traditions and worldviews. These letters are used with permission of the writers. Contents: Andean Path Shaman Mallku Aribalo, November 4, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Mallku#Mallku Catholicism Father Leonard Dubi, December 1, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Dubi#Dubi Father Thomas R. Miller, June 17, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Miller#Miller Father Cletus Stein, October 2, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Stein#Stein Sister Carol Wirtz, August 25, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Wirtz#Wirtz Islam Nada http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Haider#Haider Haider, March 2, 2009 Mohammad Haghverdi, December 24, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Mohammad#Mohammad Atmane http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Kouider#Kouider Kouider, Ph.D., February 15, 2009 Miral http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Shaaban#Shaaban Shaaban, March 25, 2009 Judaism Senior http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Green#Green Rabbi Alan Green, March 13, 2009 Rabbi Michael Shevack, November 12, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Shevack#Shevack Mormon High http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Stephens#Stephens Priest Marc Stephens United Methodist Church Reverend Jonathan Chadwick, November 4, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Chadwick#Chadwick Unity Church Reverend Don Lansky, June 30, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Lansky#Lansky Islam Miral Shaaban, March 25, 2009 To all interested in self-development, I am a veiled Muslim that practices Transcendental Meditation (TM) and I cannot ever forget the first time I prayed after my first meditation. I learned the TM technique in December of 2006: I was speechless and cannot explain this state of complete serenity, contentment and gratitude for God. TM increased my level of acceptance and appreciation for my faith and strengthened my beliefs. For example, reading from the Qur'an is becoming more enjoyable and comforting at the same time, as now I can better link its teachings with everything around me: my level of comprehension of its meanings are increasing on a daily basis. It is clear to me that the more I practice TM and the TM¬Sidhi programs, (the TM-Sidhi program is a set of advanced techniques based upon TM), the more deeply I realize
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I just *know* I'm gonna get flack for this, but I just can't resist. It's like giving a lifelong vaudeville comedian a straight line and expecting him not to respond with a joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Why is it that this announcement feels so appropriate coming right on the heels of women are only good for tempting men to leave the spiritual path JohnR talking about beauty contests? :-) Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. First wonderful buzzphrase -- ideal ladies. Call me sick, but I'm picturing a Barbie with no genitals dressed in a sari, walking several paces behind a Ken doll dressed in a white robe and wearing a crown. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar... This celebration will hopefully provide a bit of a break for the hard-working Rajas and Rajinis and Mothers Divine (more on this buzzphrase later), in between telling heads of school systems that TM is not a religion. ...His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). Why do I suddenly have a vision of Sister Aloysious from Doubt? And why does the phrase Old Nun's Club suddenly spring to mind? In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells... The mind boggles at the things that Old Nuns consider a celebration. ...His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine... Mothers Divine? Well, I guess it's better than Mother Divines. Can't be implying that there could be more than one Divine, can we? :-) ...who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. It IS an Old Nun's Club. I'm surprised there is not a dryness test as well as a length of time test as a criterion for membership. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita... Hold on here just a moment. Granted? Doesn't that sorta imply that these ladies are second-class citizens who can only be granted things by their betters, the men? And isn't granting these ladies a more lofty title while keeping them far, far away from the real reins of power in the TMO a lot like granting your secretary the title of administrative assistant while keeping her a secretary, and at the same salary? ...as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. I'm curious as to how these blessings occur. Is it the mechanism of not having sex that confers the blessings, or some other mechanism? Curious minds want to know. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. As soon as the men think them up and impose them on the ladies. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at apply@ And we'll send you a printed-in-gold certificate that you can hang in your cube saying that you are now an administrative assistant, no longer a secretary. Get me another coffee, will you honey? His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. H. This sounds like a recruitment speech in high schools for Virgins For Jesus to me. According to His Majesty... And you should believe him because he has a title, just like you'll have if you join our new Virgins For Vishnu Club... ...the goal of
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Turq Effect Leads the Way :)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM, grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: April 21, 2009 Spain's Falling Prices Fuel Deflation Fears in Europe By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ First off, I want to thank you for posting this. I don't get much information about what's happening across the pond financially except from some friends living there. I know that Poland, Serbia and Ireland have tanked. I remember a Frenchman (it would be, of course) raving on about President Cowboy Bsh and how the Euro would make Europe the most powerful economic force on Earth. I just shook my head and muttered under my breath. And we see the EU central bank and European countries (like Ireland) doing just the wrong thing we did at the beginning of the Great Depression. Thank God the US has the economic power to go deep in debt to pay for stimulus and freeing up the banking system. GB tried to do that and couldn't sell all the/his debt offered at auction. Of course very soon I'll be an ex-pat of the United States and will be looking at the country to our north in utter amazement and pity. Thank God we have so many corporate headquarters in Dallas. If we run should out of money, which is unlikely, we can nationalize them. God bless the Second Republic of Texas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research
On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Islam Miral Shaaban, March 25, 2009 To all interested in self-development, I am a veiled Muslim that practices Transcendental Meditation (TM) and I cannot ever forget the first time I prayed after my first meditation. I learned the TM technique in December of 2006: I was speechless and cannot explain this state of complete serenity, contentment and gratitude for God. TM increased my level of acceptance and appreciation for my faith and strengthened my beliefs. For example, reading from the Qur'an is becoming more enjoyable and comforting at the same time, as now I can better link its teachings with everything around me: my level of comprehension of its meanings are increasing on a daily basis. It is clear to me that the more I practice TM and the TM¬Sidhi programs, (the TM-Sidhi program is a set of advanced techniques based upon TM), the more deeply I realize different aspects of my religion and my mission in life. Throughout my life I've been asking my self lots of questions about creation and the purpose of life but now my humble insights were confirmed, as I've always had a strong belief that everything is happening for a reason. I have found that it is easier to have faith in how life unfolds through God's wisdom if I am feeling more secure and at peace within my self. Even if I may not fully understand, on an intellectual level, what is happening, my growing inner peace allows me to feel more at case with handling any situations that life puts in my path. It is clear to me that my daily practice of TM and the advanced TM- Sidhi programs has opened my eyes and heart to greater knowledge and experience. Because of this expansion of heart and mind I've discovered that I spontaneously act in a more positive and uplifting way to others, with more love, forgiveness and compassion, which is exactly what my religion and beliefs are all about. I'm enjoying feeling more in harmony with God's creation and desiring to help society in every way I can. With meditation I feel unlimited within myself and after I practice it, I feel more flexible, more alert, and have a greater ability to concentrate on my work and can think more clearly and creatively. Also, when I perform my religious practices the whole experience becomes deeper and more spiritual. Finally, I would say that even though TM and the TM-Sidhi programs are not a religion and do not require any change in one's personal beliefs or cultural practices, they very well compliment religion because they help to eliminate mental, emotional and physical stresses and tensions. From my own experience I can say that the dissolving of stresses and tensions purifies and strengthens the body, heart and mind and results in a greater ability to live one's life in harmony with the highest goals of religious life. Warm Regards, Miral Shaaban Boy does this sound like a forged letter or what?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Hey, how hard would it be to put the number of words, sentences, paragraphs also into this report. Turq did me a major kindness the other day and counted my sentences, and I kinda got off on the sheer productivity of the number.ego, only ego, yeah, but hey, it could be interesting in that we'd measure the folks by a deeper dynamic. If someone posts 50 messages but only produced 500 words, they'd be seen as folks who are satisfied to pepper FFL with blurbification. Those like me would stand out as blabbermouths. Could be some insights about us would be clarified. Great idea! Its like so hard right now to figure out who runs off at the mouth and who doesn't. Now we can have charts and graphs. One more idea though, how about a count of the number of insightful and/or original points in each post. And then we can have an insight per 100 lines type metric. (No, negative numbers will NOT be allowed). Great Swan, I haven't taken the time to search for all your responses to my posts, lazy here, but could you please inform me why you have taken the time to smack at my ego? It's not just my latest post that's triggering you, but instead, it seems my whole history of posting has your chain pulled -- and not in a good way. Yeah, my ego deserves a smack, by why did you elect yourself to be the one who does it? Seems to me that your ego is, um, thinking highly of its own opinions too. As for my suggestion, sue me, but I like this kind of silly analysis, and if my ego finds some sort of rationale for thinking itself better than others' egos, say, because I valued my prolixity over the brevity of other posters, what the fuck is it to you that I'm indulging in this egoic sin of attachment? Er, are you my guru, my psychologist, my punisher, my teacher, my WHAT Or, are you flogging me publicly for the general instruction and common weal? Are you sorta a Don Quixote tilting at my windmills? Of all the ills of the world caused by egoic attachment, I'm your target? Why am I so special to you when the whole world's darkness is founded upon the much more potent attachments of others in the world? Should I be honored to have gotten your attention when life is awash with far more odious examples of ego? Seems to me, since I don't think I've personally attacked you in previous posts (inform me if I have done so, please)I'm thinking maybe you have an issue that has little to do with me. I do read all of your posts, and do so eagerly. I like how you tick. Get it? I'm wondering why I like you so much and have agreed with you so much, yet still, despite that harmony, I've managed only to achieve your disdain. Can you clear all this up for me? Did I get nasty on your ass in the past and I'm still being punished for that, or are you, like, dusting the FFL furniture -- just a little job to keep things tidy here? How do you see yourself in all this? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Comments not likely to be heard from a Southerner
~~ Just for fun, We don't keep firearms in this house. Has anybody seen the sideburn trimmer? You can't feed that to the dog. I thought Graceland was tacky. No kids in the back of the pick-up, it's not safe. Wrasslin's fake. Do you think my hair is too big? I'll have grapefruit instead of a bowl of gravy. Honey, these bonsai trees need watering? Give me the SMALL bag of pork rinds. Deer heads detract from the decor. Spitting is such a nasty habit. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today. Trim the fat off that steak. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso. The tires on that truck are too big. I'll have the arugula and radicchio salad. Unsweetened tea tastes better. Would you like your fish poached or broiled? My fiancee, Paula Jo, is registered at Tiffany's. Little Debbie snack cakes have too many fat grams. Checkmate. Does the salad bar have bean sprouts? Hey, here's an episode of Hee Haw that we haven't seen. I don't have a favorite college team. I believe you cooked those green beans too long. Elvis who? Be sure to bring my salad dressing on the side.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Boy does this sound like a forged letter or what? Two things came to mind. One was the extreme displeasure Muslims show when I go to a Mosque to do my TM (not TM Sidhi) Program. As a matter of fact, they don't take to kindly of my worshipping with them, either. The other thing that came to mind is that Miral (the deer) doesn't read or write English. I had visions of Duke lambasting the Chinese for hours about their political system and Chinese clapping with great enthusiasm. Duke turns to his translator, Honey and says I really told them didn't I? Actually, sir, you just spoke for 3 hours praising Chinese ball bearing production for this year.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tat Wala Baba - What the Saints do in the forest
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kuldip jhala kulls2...@... wrote: i request the moderator whoever he is to either warn the person who wrote this crap and insulting thing about shiv or close this topic. I am one of the moderators, and there is nothing that I or any of the other moderators need to do with respect to this topic. FairfieldLife has very few restrictions on free speech, and it is *definitely* not a place where anyone should expect to be coddled in his/her attachment to any belief system. If the discussion here offends you, you are free to not read it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: below curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Thanks for your comments Edg. I think you are right on with the non-verbal gesture distinctions. If you get good at it, it is like putting your hand out for a handshake, people respond without thinking much about it. And it is a skill that has degrees of predictable success. You had to own the pageantry and really display the gesture to work best. Your point about the eye contact first definitely ups your odds of compliance. The whole thing is very well thought out like a car salesman asking you to Ok the paperwork instead of signing a contract for a wad of your hard earned cash! And I'm not criticizing it for that. This is exactly how I would design such a course if I was writing the script with what I know from NLP language forms to induce trance rather than engage someone's conscious mind. The repetition of the offerings really put people in the right frame of mind, teacher included. When I did hypnotherapy work with NLP I learned that I could more easily drag a person into a trance state if I went in first and pulled them in with me. When you shift your attention this way your voice carries nonverbal cues for the listener. The puja accomplishes this elegantly. By the time we hit them with the mantra, they are half way there. I always enjoyed the process of teaching. Could you ever imagine teaching TM again? I would find it hard to pull off the whole worship thing with the same innocence. As much as I dig the puja as a beautiful sociological relic, it is too far over the top for me to imagine taking seriously today. I think I would have a bit of trouble sorting out what beliefs I would be comfortable teaching along with any technique of meditation. I have lost the ability to even buy into the stress model or progressive improvement of anything through meditation. I guess it will just remain a wonderful memory from my more innocent (and less aware) past. Your description of the puja awareness skills was great. It is probably the basis for my current incarnation as a one-man-band! Playing harp, guitar, drums, singing, feeling the emotions from the meaning of the song, and scanning the crowd for eye contact and points of interaction is definitely a puja-like altered state for me. I come away with the same sort of buzz and expanded mindfulness that I used to feel after a day of initiations. I didn't make the connection till I read what you wrote, but there is definitely a connection in the sense of multitasking altered state mind in both. Of course any performance in front of people requires a lot of these multilayer processing qualities to pull off successfully. With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! I remember some of the pointed questions during the 3 days of questions that must have come from seeing me in my true alien dewy-eyed believer form. The jig was up from then on about me being an ordinary guy pitching a scientific relaxation technique. I was believer-man! Great trip down memory lane! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip Judy (from a post on alt.m.t): We've discussed this before here, and TMers chimed in about their own initiations; some knelt, some didn't. I didn't. There's no pressure to do so. Some who had more recently learned TM said there hadn't even been an *invitation* to kneel. ME: No one if forced to kneel. But the presumptive motion we make as we kneel,indicating that they kneel worked every time I used it. I never had anyone in all my teaching, not kneel. The impression that some do and some don't is a vast overstatement of people who do not. It would require a pretty strong oppositional personality or a person who had their own religious convictions to not go along. Must have been lots of 'em on alt.m.t and among the TMers I knew, then. Some do, some don't is not an overstatement in terms of my observation and that of others on alt.m.t, including one TM teacher. Perhaps other teachers can weigh in. This is not a big point it is just so different from my experience. When I motioned for the person to kneel, I did a big sweep of the hand and arm -- a purposeful and obvious -- though wordlessly done -- instruction to the initiate that
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Boy does this sound like a forged letter or what? A devout Muslim got through the puja? Uh huh. On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Islam Miral Shaaban, March 25, 2009 To all interested in self-development, I am a veiled Muslim that practices Transcendental Meditation (TM) and I cannot ever forget the first time I prayed after my first meditation. I learned the TM technique in December of 2006: I was speechless and cannot explain this state of complete serenity, contentment and gratitude for God. TM increased my level of acceptance and appreciation for my faith and strengthened my beliefs. For example, reading from the Qur'an is becoming more enjoyable and comforting at the same time, as now I can better link its teachings with everything around me: my level of comprehension of its meanings are increasing on a daily basis. It is clear to me that the more I practice TM and the TM¬Sidhi programs, (the TM-Sidhi program is a set of advanced techniques based upon TM), the more deeply I realize different aspects of my religion and my mission in life. Throughout my life I've been asking my self lots of questions about creation and the purpose of life but now my humble insights were confirmed, as I've always had a strong belief that everything is happening for a reason. I have found that it is easier to have faith in how life unfolds through God's wisdom if I am feeling more secure and at peace within my self. Even if I may not fully understand, on an intellectual level, what is happening, my growing inner peace allows me to feel more at case with handling any situations that life puts in my path. It is clear to me that my daily practice of TM and the advanced TM- Sidhi programs has opened my eyes and heart to greater knowledge and experience. Because of this expansion of heart and mind I've discovered that I spontaneously act in a more positive and uplifting way to others, with more love, forgiveness and compassion, which is exactly what my religion and beliefs are all about. I'm enjoying feeling more in harmony with God's creation and desiring to help society in every way I can. With meditation I feel unlimited within myself and after I practice it, I feel more flexible, more alert, and have a greater ability to concentrate on my work and can think more clearly and creatively. Also, when I perform my religious practices the whole experience becomes deeper and more spiritual. Finally, I would say that even though TM and the TM-Sidhi programs are not a religion and do not require any change in one's personal beliefs or cultural practices, they very well compliment religion because they help to eliminate mental, emotional and physical stresses and tensions. From my own experience I can say that the dissolving of stresses and tensions purifies and strengthens the body, heart and mind and results in a greater ability to live one's life in harmony with the highest goals of religious life. Warm Regards, Miral Shaaban Boy does this sound like a forged letter or what?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Turq Effect Leads the Way :)
I am the eternal wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM, grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: April 21, 2009 Spain's Falling Prices Fuel Deflation Fears in Europe By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ First off, I want to thank you for posting this. I don't get much information about what's happening across the pond financially except from some friends living there. I know that Poland, Serbia and Ireland have tanked. I remember a Frenchman (it would be, of course) raving on about President Cowboy Bsh and how the Euro would make Europe the most powerful economic force on Earth. I just shook my head and muttered under my breath. And we see the EU central bank and European countries (like Ireland) doing just the wrong thing we did at the beginning of the Great Depression. Thank God the US has the economic power to go deep in debt to pay for stimulus and freeing up the banking system. GB tried to do that and couldn't sell all the/his debt offered at auction. Of course very soon I'll be an ex-pat of the United States and will be looking at the country to our north in utter amazement and pity. Thank God we have so many corporate headquarters in Dallas. If we run should out of money, which is unlikely, we can nationalize them. God bless the Second Republic of Texas. I think Arnie would like to beat Rickie to the punch and create Ecopotia.
[FairfieldLife] Can you help?
This is from an old friend of mine. Perhaps someone in FF would be interested in her offer, or perhaps someone in London would be willing to put her up in exchange for a reading. Dear Friends, Following is an email I received regarding a seminar on Human design. The seminar looks at Human Design in a revolutionary and to me very enlightened way. I have studied, thanks to Karen Harris how this way of human design looks at the gates and have found it profound and empowering. I am very drawn to attend this seminar and deepen my understanding of how Integral Human Design works. It is rare for me to feel this drawn to something. I do feel from what I know about this system is that it greatly enhances the design readings. Recently, Larry has had to change his focus on how to finance our family, we are in transition and money is very tight right now. I am writing this email to see if any of you would be willing to pre-pay for a new Human Design reading so that I could afford to go on this course. The cost is $100 per reading and would take place after my return from the course. (It is in London at the end of June.) The highest first would be to take Taalia and my sister with me. My sister would pay her own way and come to take Taalia around London while I'm on the course. What an opportunity for Taalia to grow! We would share hotel and transportation costs. I am confident you would feel that your investment would be worth the reading I would do for you. $100 is a very good price for a Human Design reading, I paid $350 for my first human design reading..mine did not have the Integral aspect added to it. If you have already had one or two readings from me, please know there is much more to cover if you are so inclined. I will need quite a few participants in order to pull this off. If you are willing to help me out, please let me know ASAP, if I register by April 26 it will save $100 off the price of the course. Thanks for this opportunity, Love from Lori, Larry and Taalia PS: So far I have received 3 prepayments for readings which has encouraged me to write this email. I will not use any of the prepayments until I am sure I have enough committed to make this work. Otherwise I will return the money. Hello everyone, Below you will find details of a new course I will be giving in London this June with Werner Pitzal - Integral Human Design - A journey into your Essence. Please also note the link to my latest article on the subject of Integral Human Design and how it differs from the standard model of Human Design. You will notice we are running an 'earlybird' price for this course, which runs until April 10. Werner and I are really looking forward to introducing this new knowledge and I hope to see many of you there! love, Richard Link to Latest Article -Integral Human Design http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102486079823e=001h1LT-i3qpW95M8EiSdCkFM2FI-3wCx4 I73efW8wjZE9TstjYj0b5L3xkulsXR3dgg70-d0YCTr1uuIr7X0q-PcHfyjNoPRRaHBOuMb_8hSB QZC91MhH7M2V4RykWtT5Ye23G5AKtPv8= IHD 10 http://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs064/1101992521716/img/17.jpg?a=11024 86079823 http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/1101093164665/promolandscaper _hdrshdw.jpg Integral Human Design - A Journey into your Essence Join Werner Pitzal and Richard Rudd for a heart-expanding journey into your inner core. Voyaging through the channels and gates of the Human Design bodygraph, we will guide you into an extraordinary new world - a world where your human potential is limited only by your own imagination. Based on a stream of recent breakthroughs in the new biology, Integral Human Design affords you a fresh view of your own genetic makeup, in which you are the prime architect of your own evolution. Drawing on their combined knowledge of Human Design Circuitry, Werner and Richard will introduce you to a new Human Design language - one that will allow you to see your own Design in a totally new light. In addition to its deeply empowering worldview, Integral Human Design also offers you a simple and practical means of communicating with and catalysing the higher evolutionary potential hidden within your Design. This is affected by raising the frequency of light throughout your auric field, which in turn activates the specific higher gifts in your DNA. This is a unique and deeply illuminating course that may well reshape the way in which you see yourself and your current possibilities. No prior knowledge of Human Design is necessary. Important Note: This will be the only time Richard will participate in offering this course in a live setting. http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/1101093164665/promolandscaper _hdrshdw.jpg June 27, 28, 29 - Central London london http://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs064/1101992521716/img/18.jpg?a=11024 86079823 Venue: The Window Venue 13 Windsor Street Islington London N1 8QG
[FairfieldLife] J.J. Abrams on the Magic of Mystery
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-05/mf_jjessay
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research
On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:21 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Boy does this sound like a forged letter or what? A devout Muslim got through the puja? Uh huh. Not so much that, the letter sounds like a list TM stock answers, descriptions and hype crafted into a letter from a devout Muslim. If in fact it is real, it was probably coached.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I just *know* I'm gonna get flack for this, but I just can't resist. It's like giving a lifelong vaudeville comedian a straight line and expecting him not to respond with a joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Subject: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country or World Peace Why is it that this announcement feels so appropriate coming right on the heels of women are only good for tempting men to leave the spiritual path JohnR talking about beauty contests? :-) Following consultation with the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine Program and the 21 Rajinis of Maharishi's worldwide movement, His Majesty Maharaja Adhi Raj Raja Raam has announced the creation of two new groups of ideal ladies to create enlightenment for all the world. First wonderful buzzphrase -- ideal ladies. Call me sick, but I'm picturing a Barbie with no genitals dressed in a sari, walking several paces behind a Ken doll dressed in a white robe and wearing a crown. In a Royal Proclamation to prepare for the celebration of Vaisakhi Purnima of the Vedic Calendar... This celebration will hopefully provide a bit of a break for the hard-working Rajas and Rajinis and Mothers Divine (more on this buzzphrase later), in between telling heads of school systems that TM is not a religion. ...His Majesty has proclaimed Vaisakhi Purnima as the auspicious day of inauguration of Mother Divine Emerita (MDE) and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace (DD-GCWP). Why do I suddenly have a vision of Sister Aloysious from Doubt? And why does the phrase Old Nun's Club suddenly spring to mind? In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells... The mind boggles at the things that Old Nuns consider a celebration. ...His Majesty announced: It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine... Mothers Divine? Well, I guess it's better than Mother Divines. Can't be implying that there could be more than one Divine, can we? :-) ...who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older. It IS an Old Nun's Club. I'm surprised there is not a dryness test as well as a length of time test as a criterion for membership. His Majesty explained that it was always Maharishi's wish that the ladies of Maharishi's Mother Divine would be granted the title of Mother Divine Emerita... Hold on here just a moment. Granted? Doesn't that sorta imply that these ladies are second-class citizens who can only be granted things by their betters, the men? And isn't granting these ladies a more lofty title while keeping them far, far away from the real reins of power in the TMO a lot like granting your secretary the title of administrative assistant while keeping her a secretary, and at the same salary? ...as a celebration of gratitude to their continuous blessings on our worldwide movement and creating Heaven on Earth. I'm curious as to how these blessings occur. Is it the mechanism of not having sex that confers the blessings, or some other mechanism? Curious minds want to know. More details of this beautiful program will be announced shortly. As soon as the men think them up and impose them on the ladies. In the meantime, all of our dear Mother Divine ladies interested should please contact the Mother Divine Emerita office at apply@ And we'll send you a printed-in-gold certificate that you can hang in your cube saying that you are now an administrative assistant, no longer a secretary. Get me another coffee, will you honey? His Majesty also announced the creation of a beautiful new program, Divine Devi of the Global Country of World Peace, created especially for ladies everywhere who are seeking true enlightenment but who also wish to join His Majesty and Their Excellencies, The 40 Rajas of our Worldwide Movement, in perpetuating the administration of Maharishi's Worldwide Movement and creating the enlightened leaders of tomorrow for our beloved Maharishi's Worldwide Movement. H. This sounds like a recruitment speech in high schools for Virgins For
[FairfieldLife] TM On Jeopardy last night
Clue in category 'Four N Language' (phrase with 4 N's'): Maharishi Mahesh Yogi developed this 2-word deep-relaxation technique in the 1950's Answer (which they got right away): What is Transcendental Meditation?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. BTW, that's the third such spoof Barry's fallen for since mid-February (the other two spoofers being Doug and emptybill).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? Or were you doing exactly the opposite, as you describe above, striking holy awe into their poor innocent hearts, befuddling their vulnerable minds with the sheer hyperreligious weirdness of it all? I asked Geeze what he had thought of Barry's post claiming that *he* had never thought of what he was involved with as religious during his years in the movement, but Geeze seems to have felt it wouldn't be politic to comment. How 'bout you, Curtis? If somebody as allergic as Barry is to religion didn't think of what he was doing as religious--and claims he didn't leave the TMO because he had come to think he had been practicing a religion after all--isn't that support for my point that it's only what the *individual* thinks about what they're doing that's relevant? (Barry says he was focused entirely on self- discovery, which he doesn't believe is associated with religion. He's invited to chime in if he feels I've misrepresented what he said.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you help?
On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Rick Archer wrote: The cost is $100 per reading and would take place after my return from the course. Uh, oh... (It is in London at the end of June.) The highest first would be to take Taalia and my sister with me. My sister would pay her own way and come to take Taalia around London while I'm on the course. What an opportunity for Taalia to grow! We would share hotel and transportation costs. I am confident you would feel that your investment would be worth the reading I would do for you. Is there a $$-back guarantee if you don't? $100 is a very good price for a Human Design reading, I paid $350 for my first human design reading.. MIght explain why she's short of funds now, after throwing away $$ on stuff like this. mine did not have the Integral aspect added to it. The Integral aspect--gotta have the Integral! If you have already had one or two readings from me, please know there is much more to cover if you are so inclined. Hmmm...for another fee, I would guess. I will need quite a few participants in order to pull this off. If you are willing to help me out, please let me know ASAP, if I register by April 26 it will save $100 off the price of the course. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. Uh-huh.
[FairfieldLife] If Maitreya appeared (Re: Questions and answers about the Star)
Kirk wrote:
My question is what would change if Maitreya appeared?
The red phone rings, and President Obama is awakened.
O: Hello?
Army General: Sir, we have an emergency. A person has appeared as if
out of nowhere and is doing miracles right and left. This person is
rapidly gaining a huge following. We've sent in our operatives to
infiltrate, and every one of them has stopped reporting back to us
except to say, 'Come here and worship the true Lord.'
O: Our operatives are converting to a religion? They're violating
their duty? They're turncoats? They're traitors?
AG: Yes, but that's the least of the problems we're facing. Sir, this
person is actually doing miracles as far as we can tell. He's moved
several mountains, stopped a hurricane, made whole buildings suddenly
appear filled with tables, chairs, and hot steaming platters of food
that the masses are eating and the platters replenish themselves as if
by magic. Several times he's been shot at by freaked out gun nuts, and
the bullets turn into parrots fluttering about and singing hymns of
every sort, there's a host of angels hovering above his head at all
times, there's dozens of folks thought dead who are physically alive
again and they're praying to him -- we're talking Elvis, Mother Thersa,
Abraham Lincoln, George Carlin, and Joesph Smith, and, Sir.
O: What?
AG: He's got a fifteen inch dong too?
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: Fifteen inches -- we took a picture of him with one of those
airport scanners that see through clothing.
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: That's flaccid inches, Sir.
O: Okay, so there's a miracle that I'm prepared to believe. But, aren't
the other reports merely a sorta of mass hallucinations?
AG: No, Sir! We've got every sort of video and other corroborations.
I'd go to personally inspect the situation on the ground, but I'm afraid
I'd be just another one of those who abandon their post. This guy's a
danger not just to America, but the entire world. He's wielding powers
like, well, like God.
O: What kind of immediate threat is he?
AG: Well, everyone's quitting their jobs, no one's watching anything on
TV except the news reports coming out about this person, we've had two
of our atomic bomb rockets in silos be put out of commission by the
soldiers manning them, and the Pope is flying to see this person, so
once he arrives there, that's one billion Catholics added to this
person's following.
O: Fuck! What's this person's name, what's he saying?
AG: He's saying his name is My-trey-ah, and that he comes to Earth
about once every 300,000 years or so to make everything hunkydory
again.
O: Fuck! There goes the economy again, just after I'd spent trillions
to fix it.
AG: Sir, with all due respect, the economy is not the issue. It seems
Mytreyah can do anything, and considering that he's already turned
bullets into pious parrots, it seems he can simply snap his fingers and
our entire defense structure could be flapping around any second now.
O: Fuck! What do you suggest?
AG: Sir, we simply don't know the limits of this person's power. We
have a B-52 with a dozen nukes aboard -- waiting for your go signal.
O: Where's Mytreyah at?
AG: He's in downtown Glasgow, Scotland right now.
O: Well, drop the fucking bombs. Who needs Scotland in the face of
this crisis?
AG: Hang on to your hat, I just gave your orders to the pilot.
{ten seconds pass}
AG: Sir, the pilot radioed back. He's inviting me to come see the
Lord.
O: The bombs never got dropped?
AG: Not as far as we can tell.
O: Send an intercontinental ballistic missile then.
AG: One moment.
AG: Sir, every time someone goes to implement, they become a true
believer in this Mytreyah, and they refuse to follow orders. I'm afraid
to sic anyone else on this Mytreyah for fear of losing more personnel.
O: What else can we do?
AG: Sir, I'm afraid that this is looking like the Second Coming. I'm
looking to you for leadership here.
O: I'm still trying to recover from the shock of his flaccid fifteen
incher.
AG: CNN just now is running a video of him hovering about 20 feet in
the air as he talks to the crowds. The Scots are goners. Must be a
million in the crowd already.
O: Has he mentioned my name yet?
AG: No.
O: Any other world leaders being mentioned?
AG: No.
O: What's he telling the crowds to do?
AG: Enjoy themselves.
O: That's it?
AG: Yes.
O: What about paying the bills, the war on terrorism, having a new
car?
AG: No one seems to care about those issues. The crowd is not shouting
out questions. They all seem to think nothing matters but that this
Mytreyah has appeared and is taking care of all problems.
O: What does that stack up to look like?
AG: Not sure, Sir. If this guy is what he says he is, seems to me that
no one is going to be interested in the normal life activities -- the
world will not be as we've known it. All bets are off as to what comes
next.
O: I can't imagine.
AG: Me neither.
O: Say, any reports saying
[FairfieldLife] Paradise for Libertarians
For Ron Paul's growing legion of dope-addled contradictarian libertarians, Somalia is like nirvana. There are no taxes. No public education. No national healthcare. No national debt. No labor laws. No environmental laws. No business regulations. No unions. No import or export restrictions. No meddlesome big governmentor small government for that matter. And everyone smokes khat, which is a leafy plant that temporarily deludes its users into feeling as if their problems are gone. Somalia, a country that hasn't had an operating central government since 1991, is a libertarian Republican's wet dream, where entrepreneurs can grow their businesses unfettered by laws and regulations. ~Full article: http://www.mediastudy.com/articles/av4-16-09.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, I was commenting on the contrast between who we are in the intro and prep and how immerse the puja experience is. There is no trying, involved, we where loud speakers who had been trained to parrot phrases. You are confusing my perspective now, for how it went down then. just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? I sense you are trying to be sarcastic but I can't figure out why. I am describing what it feels like to do a puja for a stranger when we teach TM. Remember we are speaking memorized lines from the moment we begin with the flower routine. All your intentionality overlay is your projection on what I experienced. Or were you doing exactly the opposite, as you describe above, striking holy awe into their poor innocent hearts, befuddling their vulnerable minds with the sheer hyperreligious weirdness of it all? My piece was descriptive of my experience. Both elements are present. I was describing my experience teaching and how I think of it now. What exactly are you trying to be snarky about: That it is a study in contrasts? That the teacher has to fill two very different roles and when placed side by side it could be confusing for a new meditator? That we get them to go along is a pretty slick manor that doesn't invite questions? You are intellectualizing this thing in a way I can't relate to. Doing the puja has many contradictory elements. Your reductionist approach will not help you understand the experience. I don't have any sense for how Barry thought of the puja when he was in the movement. Maybe he thought of them as mythical figures and felt it was all symbolic in a Joseph Campbel way. But I personally never met a teacher that didn't view the 3/4 Vishnu Veda Vyasa as a real being on earth and I know that this is how Maharishis viewed him, as an historical character. So if you are trying to get me to help you find contradictions in anything Barry wrote you are on your own. But I think you are saying that if Barry was able to view the puja in a non religious way, then it isn't really religious. Is that what you are claiming? Because one priest claims that when he performs mass, it is not REALLY transmutating the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, it is all symbolic, then Catholicism should not be viewed a religion and we can do Mass in classrooms to see if it calms the kids down a bit? And please do not resort to dismissing this as an absurd example because the mass and the puja have much in common including the transmutation of common objects into sacred ones for humans to consume and be blessed by. Humans can view their actions any way they want. If you are pitching that it is reasonable to view the puja as a non religious performance then our definitions of religion have nothing in common. And in the case of schools, I am happy to have parents and courts sort out how they want to define it. I asked Geeze what he had thought of Barry's post claiming that *he* had never thought of what he was involved with as religious during his years in the movement, but Geeze seems to have felt it wouldn't be politic to comment. How 'bout you, Curtis? If somebody as allergic as Barry is to religion didn't think of what he was doing as religious--and claims he didn't leave the TMO because he had come to think he had been practicing a religion after all--isn't that support for my point that it's only what the *individual* thinks about what they're doing that's relevant? (Barry says he was focused entirely on self- discovery, which he doesn't believe is associated with religion. He's invited to chime in if he feels I've misrepresented what he said.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. Uh-huh. The third paragraph: In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: 'It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older.' This really didn't trigger your spoof detector? Seriously?? Wow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: The third paragraph: I haven't been following this closely enough early on to see if I would have detected a spoof or not, but lets examine this paragraph and compare it to the real MD program. In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, ME: Been to plenty of these, this is accurate. His Majesty announced: ME: One of his many titles, OK 'It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine ME: Actual course with its actual (non religious) improbable name. to join Mother Divine Emerita Me: From Wiki: Emerita is also the feminine form of the word Emeritus, added to the title professor or bishop, to indicate they have retired. OK using a religious term to glorify members for a new program, check. They could be retiring many are in their 60's. and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. Me: This is the TM teaching about what their purpose is. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older.' Me: Age requirements for a retirement course. Sounds right. This really didn't trigger your spoof detector? Seriously?? Wow. So what exactly in that quote is so out of line from what the movement is actually doing? Is the idea that they might actually be taking care of older MD members with a special program designed for their needs instead of chucking them out on the street when they become a financial burden the part that is soo un TM movement? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. Uh-huh. The third paragraph: In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: 'It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older.' This really didn't trigger your spoof detector? Seriously?? Wow.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Paradise for Libertarians
do.rflex wrote: For Ron Paul's growing legion of dope-addled contradictarian libertarians, Somalia is like nirvana. There are no taxes. No public education. No national healthcare. No national debt. No labor laws. No environmental laws. No business regulations. No unions. No import or export restrictions. No meddlesome big government—or small government for that matter. And everyone smokes khat, which is a leafy plant that temporarily deludes its users into feeling as if their problems are gone. Somalia, a country that hasn't had an operating central government since 1991, is a libertarian Republican's wet dream, where entrepreneurs can grow their businesses unfettered by laws and regulations. ~Full article: http://www.mediastudy.com/articles/av4-16-09.html Good, lets send them all there but they might wind up lowering the national IQ. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? Or were you doing exactly the opposite, as you describe above, striking holy awe into their poor innocent hearts, befuddling their vulnerable minds with the sheer hyperreligious weirdness of it all? I asked Geeze what he had thought of Barry's post claiming that *he* had never thought of what he was involved with as religious during his years in the movement, but Geeze seems to have felt it wouldn't be politic to comment. How 'bout you, Curtis? If somebody as allergic as Barry is to religion didn't think of what he was doing as religious--and claims he didn't leave the TMO because he had come to think he had been practicing a religion after all--isn't that support for my point that it's only what the *individual* thinks about what they're doing that's relevant? (Barry says he was focused entirely on self- discovery, which he doesn't believe is associated with religion. He's invited to chime in if he feels I've misrepresented what he said.) Judy, I didn't respond to you because I've concluded that word wrestling with you is about as useful as arguing with Nabby or WillyTex. I don't have time time to get into convoluted dialogs with you. I don't have time to get into convoluted dialogs with anyone here for that matter. I check in when I get a moment, post quick comments when I'm able and move on to to other pressing matters. You've made it clear over the years that winning is of utmost importance to you. While, I've enjoyed a few posts of yours concerning food or birds, I find the endless you're lying and you know it crap to be tiring and mind-numbingly boring. That's why I don't rumble in the jungle with you.
[FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
I thought I would start a topic where we could report on progress towards the End of America. As an example here is a news story I saw last night about the DAs in my own county deciding on what they will prosecute or not. The list is quite interesting and I am seeing this going on in other counties and cities in California. Locally another city will be replacing cuts in sheriff patrols with citizen militias. Shades of those old apocalyptic movies, eh? What's happening in your area? The story: Contra Costa County DA Robert Kochly warned the county's police chiefs in a memo that they would not prosecute certain cases, due to budget cuts. I am faced with the reality of informing all of our law enforcement partners that we will definitely being doing less with less, according to the memo. Kochly told CBS 5 his office is nearly $6 million in the red, with property tax and state revenues drying up. Six deputy district attorneys will be gone by next week, and another 11 by year's end. Story and video with list of cuts here: http://cbs5.com/local/contra.costa.prosecutions.2.989932.html Excuse me while I go gun shopping.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM On Jeopardy last night
Rick Archer wrote: Clue in category 'Four N Language' (phrase with 4 N's'): Maharishi Mahesh Yogi developed this 2-word deep-relaxation technique in the 1950's Answer (which they got right away): What is Transcendental Meditation? Lynch's PR people must be busy. Almost like the PR people with Star Trek getting shows to do an episode on Star Trek fans (CSI and a comedy this week).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: Judy, I didn't respond to you because I've concluded that word wrestling with you is about as useful as arguing with Nabby or WillyTex. I don't have time time to get into convoluted dialogs with you. I don't have time to get into convoluted dialogs with anyone here for that matter. I check in when I get a moment, post quick comments when I'm able and move on to to other pressing matters. You've made it clear over the years that winning is of utmost importance to you. While, I've enjoyed a few posts of yours concerning food or birds, I find the endless you're lying and you know it crap to be tiring and mind-numbingly boring. That's why I don't rumble in the jungle with you. Wise man. Add to what you said, however, the fact that the person trying to taunt you into entering an argument with her is the person who recently defined a good discussion (à la a.m.t.) as one that she could prolong until it was 100 posts deep. Since saying that, she has tried to taunt at least four people into such an argument. And it never even *occurs* to her that by saying what she's trying to do (lure people into end- less arguments) and then attempting to do just that she might be shooting herself in the foot. That's our Judy. Not just an attention vampire, but a stupid attention vampire.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
The original email was sent from gcwpn...@... (Global Country of World Peace News), so I'm guessing it's for real. I love it that you can't tell.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, I was commenting on the contrast between who we are in the intro and prep and how immerse the puja experience is. There is no trying, involved, we where loud speakers who had been trained to parrot phrases. You are confusing my perspective now, for how it went down then. No, you're missing my point. just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? I sense you are trying to be sarcastic but I can't figure out why. I'm pointing out that you've described how the puja was done in two different ways, citing two different and opposing intentions. Earlier you said your script called for you to make it seem that the student wasn't participating in a religious ritual (my paraphrases above); but in the post I'm responding to, you seem to be suggesting that the setup was designed to impress them with the puja's holiness and your devotion. (I'm not even talking about the prep lecture here, just the puja.) I am describing what it feels like to do a puja for a stranger when we teach TM. Remember we are speaking memorized lines from the moment we begin with the flower routine. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. The casualness of the flower and prasad bits doesn't match up with how you're describing what it felt like to you. This is reiterating a point I made in my last post to you (haven't seen any response), in which I said it seemed to me the whole routine was designed (i.e., by Maharishi) to *prevent* the student from being drawn into the puja's religious atmosphere and the teacher's feelings of devotion, to *protect* the student from such involvement, to respect the student's boundaries, in other words. I'm just seeing the whole motivation so differently from you--not as setting a trap for the student to fall unsuspectingly into the clutches of Hinduism, but to *keep the student from doing any such thing*, to minimize any possible conflict with the student's religious beliefs while ensuring they have the best possible start with the technique. Then, yes, on the third day of checking they get the Vision of Possibilities, but by that time *they've got the technique down pat* so that if they don't find the possibilities appealing, they'll still have the technique. snip I don't have any sense for how Barry thought of the puja when he was in the movement. Maybe he thought of them as mythical figures and felt it was all symbolic in a Joseph Campbel way. Well, that's how I think of it. Barry didn't say how he thought of it, only that he didn't feel religious about it. But I personally never met a teacher that didn't view the 3/4 Vishnu Veda Vyasa as a real being on earth and I know that this is how Maharishis viewed him, as an historical character. I don't know what 3/4 Vishnu Veda Vyasa is. So if you are trying to get me to help you find contradictions in anything Barry wrote you are on your own. Yes, if I have questions for Barry, I'll pose them to him. But I think you are saying that if Barry was able to view the puja in a non religious way, then it isn't really religious. Is that what you are claiming? I'll just repeat what I said: Doesn't Barry's account support my point that it's only what the *individual* thinks about what they're doing that's relevant?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Judy, I didn't respond to you because I've concluded that word wrestling with you is about as useful as arguing with Nabby or WillyTex. I don't have time time to get into convoluted dialogs with you. I don't have time to get into convoluted dialogs with anyone here for that matter. I check in when I get a moment, post quick comments when I'm able and move on to to other pressing matters. You've made it clear over the years that winning is of utmost importance to you. While, I've enjoyed a few posts of yours concerning food or birds, I find the endless you're lying and you know it crap to be tiring and mind-numbingly boring. That's why I don't rumble in the jungle with you. Wise man. Add to what you said, however, the fact that the person trying to taunt you into entering an argument with her is the person who recently defined a good discussion (à la a.m.t.) as one that she could prolong until it was 100 posts deep. No, that isn't a fact, and Barry knows it isn't a fact. Ergo, he's lying. Since saying that, she has tried to taunt at least four people into such an argument. And this is a lie as well. As I predicted, it's going to take awhile for Barry to work off his extreme agitation at having been definitively owned in the past couple of days, and while he's trying to neutralize his agony, he's going to say one extremely stupid thing after another. For example, above he says, She's trying to taunt you into an argument when he's very much aware that it was Geeze who taunted me, not the other way around. Even Geeze acknowledges this *in the very post Barry quotes*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, I was commenting on the contrast between who we are in the intro and prep and how immerse the puja experience is. There is no trying, involved, we where loud speakers who had been trained to parrot phrases. You are confusing my perspective now, for how it went down then. No, you're missing my point. just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? I sense you are trying to be sarcastic but I can't figure out why. I'm pointing out that you've described how the puja was done in two different ways, citing two different and opposing intentions. Earlier you said your script called for you to make it seem that the student wasn't participating in a religious ritual (my paraphrases above); but in the post I'm responding to, you seem to be suggesting that the setup was designed to impress them with the puja's holiness and your devotion. (I'm not even talking about the prep lecture here, just the puja.) That wasn't mu point in describing the puja at all. I was not saying we were trying to impress them with the puja's holiness, I don't know why you would say that. I was describing how it went down. The truth is they met one guy at the intro and prep and then we lay the puja on them which is a study in contrasts. We weren't trying to do anything in the puju, we were doing it by detailed scripting that gets them to participate with little resistance or explanation. In describing how we have them take the flower I was just showing how we get them to participate without argument. You'd LIKE to have a flower is a long way from Would you like to have a flower? That was my point. I am describing what it feels like to do a puja for a stranger when we teach TM. Remember we are speaking memorized lines from the moment we begin with the flower routine. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. The casualness of the flower and prasad bits doesn't match up with how you're describing what it felt like to you. I don't get your point. You are tying to match things up to create some kind of contradiction, but it isn't working. As I said, we were not trying to make the puja seem odd and very religious, it just is. This is reiterating a point I made in my last post to you (haven't seen any response), in which I said it seemed to me the whole routine was designed (i.e., by Maharishi) to *prevent* the student from being drawn into the puja's religious atmosphere and the teacher's feelings of devotion, to *protect* the student from such involvement, to respect the student's boundaries, in other words. Yes there is some downplaying of the religious elements in the conscious mind of the student while maintaining the strict religious protocol. I'm not sure how much boundary protecting is involved or not. The only boundaries you seem to be pointing out are keeping them from understanding what is going on. I'm not inclined to see that as a virtue. Especially since TM could be taught with a bit more upfront transparency and a lot less bullshittery IMO. I'm just seeing the whole motivation so differently from you--not as setting a trap for the student to fall unsuspectingly into the clutches of Hinduism, but to *keep the student from doing any such thing*, to minimize any possible conflict with the student's religious beliefs while ensuring they have the best possible start with the technique. That sounds like a possible POV. It is one I taught with. But the parental role of minimizing any possibility of TM conflicting with their religious role is a bit too parental, and a bit too slippery considering the fact that we are taking their money for something which is not being represented completely accurately IMO. It would make very little difference in who started to not run the song and dance of minimizing conflict. And if they were really religious enough in some
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM On Jeopardy last night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Rick Archer wrote: Clue in category 'Four N Language' (phrase with 4 N's'): Maharishi Mahesh Yogi developed this 2-word deep-relaxation technique in the 1950's Answer (which they got right away): What is Transcendental Meditation? Lynch's PR people must be busy. Almost like the PR people with Star Trek getting shows to do an episode on Star Trek fans (CSI and a comedy this week). I don't think so. Every few years Jeopardy! will have a TM answer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Judy, I didn't respond to you because I've concluded that word wrestling with you is about as useful as arguing with Nabby or WillyTex. I don't have time time to get into convoluted dialogs with you. I don't have time to get into convoluted dialogs with anyone here for that matter. I check in when I get a moment, post quick comments when I'm able and move on to to other pressing matters. You've made it clear over the years that winning is of utmost importance to you. While, I've enjoyed a few posts of yours concerning food or birds, I find the endless you're lying and you know it crap to be tiring and mind-numbingly boring. That's why I don't rumble in the jungle with you. Wise man. Add to what you said, however, the fact that the person trying to taunt you into entering an argument with her is the person who recently defined a good discussion (à la a.m.t.) as one that she could prolong until it was 100 posts deep. No, that isn't a fact, and Barry knows it isn't a fact. Ergo, he's lying. Since saying that, she has tried to taunt at least four people into such an argument. And this is a lie as well. As I predicted, it's going to take awhile for Barry to work off his extreme agitation at having been definitively owned in the past couple of days, and while he's trying to neutralize his agony, he's going to say one extremely stupid thing after another. For example, above he says, She's trying to taunt you into an argument when he's very much aware that it was Geeze who taunted me, not the other way around. Even Geeze acknowledges this *in the very post Barry quotes*. (yawn) what?
[FairfieldLife] Ample Breasts
Hello everyone. It is good to be back. ScienceOfAbundance
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I thought I would start a topic where we could report on progress towards the End of America. In other news, the State of Texas is doing quite well financially. We're even turning away Stimulus money. We see Huntsville, TX as a growth town and we have no problem with Law and Order here. Ron Paul has spoken in favor of Texas succession. In God we trust. Everyone else we wiretap.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Slideshow of Maharishi Vedic Pandits in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Â P.S. If this newsletter was forwarded to you by a friend, you can sign up to have future issues sent directly to you by clicking here. If you would like to support the Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan you can make an on-line donation here. Whoa! That was way cool! For me, one of the best recitations I've ever heard! Lots of that seems to be from the PuruSa-suukta (Rgveda X 90). It's mighty interesting to read it while listening.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: Hello everyone. It is good to be back. ScienceOfAbundance So what's the story, dude. Was it a put-on or not? If so, it was a really good one. My compliments.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts
Hello Turq. Yes, it was created in the unbounded bliss of the vacuum state (early 80's retro) as infinite correlation reminded me of the Ample Breasts spoof several years regarding the characteristics of King Tony's desired consort. I have been away from the group for about three years and thought I would join again and see what is going on (much of the same:). Based on the responses to my proclamation, my guess is that King Tony never never did get a hold of any ample breasts. He's getting on - he'll need to get to them soon. Hope you're doing well, Science --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Hello everyone. It is good to be back. ScienceOfAbundance So what's the story, dude. Was it a put-on or not? If so, it was a really good one. My compliments.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paradise for Libertarians
do.rflex wrote: Paradise for Libertarians Some analysts have made the case that Americans are not overtaxed (at the federal level) and that therefore the protests were not justified. But this misses the point. Government spending is exploding, with the Congressional Budget Office projecting $9.3 trillion in deficits over the next 10 years. People know that this spending represents future taxes. Here is an interesting set of facts... Read more: 'Tea Party Economics' By Brian S. Wesbury and Robert Stein Forbes, April 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/d8e3l2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paradise for Libertarians
Bhairitu wrote: Good, lets send them all there but they might wind up lowering the national IQ. Yeah, lets send them there, along with Jack Murtha, Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi. On the day the new Congress convened this year, Sen. Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to route $25 billion in taxpayer money to a government agency that had just awarded her husband's real estate firm a lucrative contract to sell foreclosed properties at compensation rates higher than the industry norms. Full story: 'Senator's husband's firm cashes in on crisis' By Chuck Neubauer Washington Times, Tuesday, April 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cs3tz3
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, I was commenting on the contrast between who we are in the intro and prep and how immerse the puja experience is. There is no trying, involved, we where loud speakers who had been trained to parrot phrases. You are confusing my perspective now, for how it went down then. No, you're missing my point. just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? I sense you are trying to be sarcastic but I can't figure out why. I'm pointing out that you've described how the puja was done in two different ways, citing two different and opposing intentions. Earlier you said your script called for you to make it seem that the student wasn't participating in a religious ritual (my paraphrases above); but in the post I'm responding to, you seem to be suggesting that the setup was designed to impress them with the puja's holiness and your devotion. (I'm not even talking about the prep lecture here, just the puja.) That wasn't mu point in describing the puja at all. I was not saying we were trying to impress them with the puja's holiness, I don't know why you would say that. Well, on the basis of the paragraph from your earlier post I quoted at the top. I was describing how it went down. The truth is they met one guy at the intro and prep and then we lay the puja on them which is a study in contrasts. We weren't trying to do anything in the puju, we were doing it by detailed scripting that gets them to participate with little resistance or explanation. In describing how we have them take the flower I was just showing how we get them to participate without argument. You'd LIKE to have a flower is a long way from Would you like to have a flower? That was my point. Yes, I know. But that's *my* point too; they're taking it not because they want to hold the flower but because you want them to. They haven't assented to anything except the desire to be polite to *you*. I am describing what it feels like to do a puja for a stranger when we teach TM. Remember we are speaking memorized lines from the moment we begin with the flower routine. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. The casualness of the flower and prasad bits doesn't match up with how you're describing what it felt like to you. I don't get your point. You are tying to match things up to create some kind of contradiction, but it isn't working. As I said, we were not trying to make the puja seem odd and very religious, it just is. OK, it sounded contradictory to me. I personally didn't find the puja that odd or impressive. snip I'm just seeing the whole motivation so differently from you--not as setting a trap for the student to fall unsuspectingly into the clutches of Hinduism, but to *keep the student from doing any such thing*, to minimize any possible conflict with the student's religious beliefs while ensuring they have the best possible start with the technique. That sounds like a possible POV. It is one I taught with. But the parental role of minimizing any possibility of TM conflicting with their religious role is a bit too parental, Oh, for goodness' sake. It isn't parental to not want to impose something on somebody. snip I'll just repeat what I said: Doesn't Barry's account support my point that it's only what the *individual* thinks about what they're doing that's relevant? No. People can think that A is NOT A. They would be wrong. OK. I think that's absurd in this context.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales at the End of America
Bhairitu wrote: Excuse me while I go gun shopping. When you're out there, make sure you avoid eating at Arby's. The rising number of fat people was yesterday blamed for global warming. Scientists warned that the increase in big-eaters means more food production a major cause of CO2 gas emissions warming the planet. Overweight people are also more likely to drive, adding to environmental damage. Read more: 'Fatties cause global warming' By Ben Jackson New York Sun, april 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/dy33gp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tales at the End of America
L.Shaddai wrote: In other news, the State of Texas is doing quite well financially... Let's say the administration finds $100 million in efficiencies every working day for the rest of the Obama administration's first term. That's still around $80 billion, or around 2% of one year's federal spending. - Paul Krugman, April 20, 2009
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM On Jeopardy last night
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Rick Archer wrote: Clue in category 'Four N Language' (phrase with 4 N's'): Maharishi Mahesh Yogi developed this 2-word deep-relaxation technique in the 1950's Answer (which they got right away): What is Transcendental Meditation? Lynch's PR people must be busy. Almost like the PR people with Star Trek getting shows to do an episode on Star Trek fans (CSI and a comedy this week). I don't think so. Every few years Jeopardy! will have a TM answer. Geez, you watch game shows? However if you've been involved with companies who have a PR department then you would realize that it isn't always accidental. PR folks have ways of getting things into shows. I may be nothing more than a chotchkey sent some producer's way which causes them to include something in a show about it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradise for Libertarians
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Good, lets send them all there but they might wind up lowering the national IQ. Yeah, lets send them there, along with Jack Murtha, Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi. On the day the new Congress convened this year, Sen. Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to route $25 billion in taxpayer money to a government agency that had just awarded her husband's real estate firm a lucrative contract to sell foreclosed properties at compensation rates higher than the industry norms. Full story: 'Senator's husband's firm cashes in on crisis' By Chuck Neubauer Washington Times, Tuesday, April 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cs3tz3 Ain't capitalism great! Feinstein is pissing off Californians as a senator because from what I've heard she wants to run for governor so this is her last term.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tales at the End of America
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Excuse me while I go gun shopping. When you're out there, make sure you avoid eating at Arby's. The rising number of fat people was yesterday blamed for global warming. Scientists warned that the increase in big-eaters means more food production — a major cause of CO2 gas emissions warming the planet. Overweight people are also more likely to drive, adding to environmental damage. Read more: 'Fatties cause global warming' By Ben Jackson New York Sun, april 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/dy33gp They should probably take the valium out of the chemtrails then. It makes people fat. Not all fat people overeat but you're a meditator and should know that being competent with ayurveda, yes? As for Arby's there isn't one nearby though an Indian restaurateur I know own 5 of then in another California city. While you're at it lay off those prairie dog soufflés. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
I am the eternal wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I thought I would start a topic where we could report on progress towards the End of America. In other news, the State of Texas is doing quite well financially. We're even turning away Stimulus money. We see Huntsville, TX as a growth town and we have no problem with Law and Order here. Ron Paul has spoken in favor of Texas succession. In God we trust. Everyone else we wiretap. Yeah but what is Texas known for other than crackers?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: me: That sounds like a possible POV. It is one I taught with. But the parental role of minimizing any possibility of TM conflicting with their religious role is a bit too parental, Judy: Oh, for goodness' sake. It isn't parental to not want to impose something on somebody. But the movement IS imposing something on them without their knowledge. In every way we are making sure that they are doing the things that participants in a puja are expected to do. What the movement it is being slippery about it letting them know the level of their participation and what it means in the context of the religion it comes from. I am arguing for more upfront honesty here Judy. Are you really against this concept being applied in this context? Snip Judy: Yes, I know. But that's *my* point too; they're taking it not because they want to hold the flower but because you want them to. They haven't assented to anything except the desire to be polite to *you*. Me: Yeah, we got away with getting them to participate in a religious activity they don't fully understand by using the social contract. Hooray for us! I can't imagine any other context where you would be arguing on this side of the issue Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip With the puja you had the added weirdness of people not knowing what the F you were doing. We down play the weirdness so much in the intro and prep with our suits and ties and talk of science, and then then we hit them with the sandalwood incense infused puja room and we show up like the little devoted outcaste Hindu-wannabees we were. All of a sudden Mr. Scientific Charts transforms by doing a detailed ritual that goes on pretty long, right from the middle ages! What a trip! So lessee, Curtis, were you trying to deceive them into thinking the puja wasn't anything special, I was commenting on the contrast between who we are in the intro and prep and how immerse the puja experience is. There is no trying, involved, we where loud speakers who had been trained to parrot phrases. You are confusing my perspective now, for how it went down then. No, you're missing my point. just everyday, casual stuff--I'm just giving you the flower 'cause I thought you'd enjoy holding it; I'm returning a piece of fruit to you 'cause I figured you might be hungry? I sense you are trying to be sarcastic but I can't figure out why. I'm pointing out that you've described how the puja was done in two different ways, citing two different and opposing intentions. Earlier you said your script called for you to make it seem that the student wasn't participating in a religious ritual (my paraphrases above); but in the post I'm responding to, you seem to be suggesting that the setup was designed to impress them with the puja's holiness and your devotion. (I'm not even talking about the prep lecture here, just the puja.) That wasn't mu point in describing the puja at all. I was not saying we were trying to impress them with the puja's holiness, I don't know why you would say that. Well, on the basis of the paragraph from your earlier post I quoted at the top. I was describing how it went down. The truth is they met one guy at the intro and prep and then we lay the puja on them which is a study in contrasts. We weren't trying to do anything in the puju, we were doing it by detailed scripting that gets them to participate with little resistance or explanation. In describing how we have them take the flower I was just showing how we get them to participate without argument. You'd LIKE to have a flower is a long way from Would you like to have a flower? That was my point. Yes, I know. But that's *my* point too; they're taking it not because they want to hold the flower but because you want them to. They haven't assented to anything except the desire to be polite to *you*. I am describing what it feels like to do a puja for a stranger when we teach TM. Remember we are speaking memorized lines from the moment we begin with the flower routine. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. The casualness of the flower and prasad bits doesn't match up with how you're describing what it felt like to you. I don't get your point. You are tying to match things up to create some kind of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ample Breasts
scienceofabundance wrote: Hello everyone. It is good to be back. ScienceOfAbundance Aren't ample breasts the two fullnesses?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. BTW, that's the third such spoof Barry's fallen for since mid-February (the other two spoofers being Doug and emptybill). I started to think it was a spoof on first read simply because the explicit references to age and so on were tied to sexuality. It was sort of like we be 8 score lovely blonds and brunettes between the ages of 16 and 19.5... a little too good to be true. ;-) Lawson (a spanking a spanking there's going to be a spanking...)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM On Jeopardy last night
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Rick Archer wrote: Clue in category 'Four N Language' (phrase with 4 N's'): Maharishi Mahesh Yogi developed this 2-word deep-relaxation technique in the 1950's Answer (which they got right away): What is Transcendental Meditation? Lynch's PR people must be busy. Almost like the PR people with Star Trek getting shows to do an episode on Star Trek fans (CSI and a comedy this week). I don't think so. Every few years Jeopardy! will have a TM answer. *** A couple years ago, Pat Sajak, host on another show (Wheel of Fortune) developed by Merv Griffin, announced during the show that he did TM. It's likely several people involved in both Jeopardy and Wheel do TM because of Merv's TM shows in the 70s.
[FairfieldLife] If Maitreya appeared (Re: Questions and answers about the Star)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Kirk wrote:
My question is what would change if Maitreya appeared?
The red phone rings, and President Obama is awakened.
O: Hello?
Army General: Sir, we have an emergency. A person has appeared as if
out of nowhere and is doing miracles right and left. This person is
rapidly gaining a huge following. We've sent in our operatives to
infiltrate, and every one of them has stopped reporting back to us
except to say, 'Come here and worship the true Lord.'
O: Our operatives are converting to a religion? They're violating
their duty? They're turncoats? They're traitors?
AG: Yes, but that's the least of the problems we're facing. Sir, this
person is actually doing miracles as far as we can tell. He's moved
several mountains, stopped a hurricane, made whole buildings suddenly
appear filled with tables, chairs, and hot steaming platters of food
that the masses are eating and the platters replenish themselves as if
by magic. Several times he's been shot at by freaked out gun nuts, and
the bullets turn into parrots fluttering about and singing hymns of
every sort, there's a host of angels hovering above his head at all
times, there's dozens of folks thought dead who are physically alive
again and they're praying to him -- we're talking Elvis, Mother Thersa,
Abraham Lincoln, George Carlin, and Joesph Smith, and, Sir.
O: What?
AG: He's got a fifteen inch dong too?
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: Fifteen inches -- we took a picture of him with one of those
airport scanners that see through clothing.
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: That's flaccid inches, Sir.
O: Okay, so there's a miracle that I'm prepared to believe. But, aren't
the other reports merely a sorta of mass hallucinations?
AG: No, Sir! We've got every sort of video and other corroborations.
I'd go to personally inspect the situation on the ground, but I'm afraid
I'd be just another one of those who abandon their post. This guy's a
danger not just to America, but the entire world. He's wielding powers
like, well, like God.
O: What kind of immediate threat is he?
AG: Well, everyone's quitting their jobs, no one's watching anything on
TV except the news reports coming out about this person, we've had two
of our atomic bomb rockets in silos be put out of commission by the
soldiers manning them, and the Pope is flying to see this person, so
once he arrives there, that's one billion Catholics added to this
person's following.
O: Fuck! What's this person's name, what's he saying?
AG: He's saying his name is My-trey-ah, and that he comes to Earth
about once every 300,000 years or so to make everything hunkydory
again.
O: Fuck! There goes the economy again, just after I'd spent trillions
to fix it.
AG: Sir, with all due respect, the economy is not the issue. It seems
Mytreyah can do anything, and considering that he's already turned
bullets into pious parrots, it seems he can simply snap his fingers and
our entire defense structure could be flapping around any second now.
O: Fuck! What do you suggest?
AG: Sir, we simply don't know the limits of this person's power. We
have a B-52 with a dozen nukes aboard -- waiting for your go signal.
O: Where's Mytreyah at?
AG: He's in downtown Glasgow, Scotland right now.
O: Well, drop the fucking bombs. Who needs Scotland in the face of
this crisis?
AG: Hang on to your hat, I just gave your orders to the pilot.
{ten seconds pass}
AG: Sir, the pilot radioed back. He's inviting me to come see the
Lord.
O: The bombs never got dropped?
AG: Not as far as we can tell.
O: Send an intercontinental ballistic missile then.
AG: One moment.
AG: Sir, every time someone goes to implement, they become a true
believer in this Mytreyah, and they refuse to follow orders. I'm afraid
to sic anyone else on this Mytreyah for fear of losing more personnel.
O: What else can we do?
AG: Sir, I'm afraid that this is looking like the Second Coming. I'm
looking to you for leadership here.
O: I'm still trying to recover from the shock of his flaccid fifteen
incher.
AG: CNN just now is running a video of him hovering about 20 feet in
the air as he talks to the crowds. The Scots are goners. Must be a
million in the crowd already.
O: Has he mentioned my name yet?
AG: No.
O: Any other world leaders being mentioned?
AG: No.
O: What's he telling the crowds to do?
AG: Enjoy themselves.
O: That's it?
AG: Yes.
O: What about paying the bills, the war on terrorism, having a new
car?
AG: No one seems to care about those issues. The crowd is not shouting
out questions. They all seem to think nothing matters but that this
Mytreyah has appeared and is taking care of all problems.
O: What does that stack up to look like?
AG: Not sure, Sir. If this guy is what he says he is, seems to me that
no one
[FairfieldLife] If Maitreya appeared (Re: Questions and answers about the Star)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:
Kirk wrote:
My question is what would change if Maitreya appeared?
The red phone rings, and President Obama is awakened.
O: Hello?
Army General: Sir, we have an emergency. A person has appeared as if
out of nowhere and is doing miracles right and left. This person is
rapidly gaining a huge following. We've sent in our operatives to
infiltrate, and every one of them has stopped reporting back to us
except to say, 'Come here and worship the true Lord.'
O: Our operatives are converting to a religion? They're violating
their duty? They're turncoats? They're traitors?
AG: Yes, but that's the least of the problems we're facing. Sir, this
person is actually doing miracles as far as we can tell. He's moved
several mountains, stopped a hurricane, made whole buildings suddenly
appear filled with tables, chairs, and hot steaming platters of food
that the masses are eating and the platters replenish themselves as if
by magic. Several times he's been shot at by freaked out gun nuts, and
the bullets turn into parrots fluttering about and singing hymns of
every sort, there's a host of angels hovering above his head at all
times, there's dozens of folks thought dead who are physically alive
again and they're praying to him -- we're talking Elvis, Mother Thersa,
Abraham Lincoln, George Carlin, and Joesph Smith, and, Sir.
O: What?
AG: He's got a fifteen inch dong too?
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: Fifteen inches -- we took a picture of him with one of those
airport scanners that see through clothing.
O: Fifteen inches?
AG: That's flaccid inches, Sir.
O: Okay, so there's a miracle that I'm prepared to believe. But, aren't
the other reports merely a sorta of mass hallucinations?
AG: No, Sir! We've got every sort of video and other corroborations.
I'd go to personally inspect the situation on the ground, but I'm afraid
I'd be just another one of those who abandon their post. This guy's a
danger not just to America, but the entire world. He's wielding powers
like, well, like God.
O: What kind of immediate threat is he?
AG: Well, everyone's quitting their jobs, no one's watching anything on
TV except the news reports coming out about this person, we've had two
of our atomic bomb rockets in silos be put out of commission by the
soldiers manning them, and the Pope is flying to see this person, so
once he arrives there, that's one billion Catholics added to this
person's following.
O: Fuck! What's this person's name, what's he saying?
AG: He's saying his name is My-trey-ah, and that he comes to Earth
about once every 300,000 years or so to make everything hunkydory
again.
O: Fuck! There goes the economy again, just after I'd spent trillions
to fix it.
AG: Sir, with all due respect, the economy is not the issue. It seems
Mytreyah can do anything, and considering that he's already turned
bullets into pious parrots, it seems he can simply snap his fingers and
our entire defense structure could be flapping around any second now.
O: Fuck! What do you suggest?
AG: Sir, we simply don't know the limits of this person's power. We
have a B-52 with a dozen nukes aboard -- waiting for your go signal.
O: Where's Mytreyah at?
AG: He's in downtown Glasgow, Scotland right now.
O: Well, drop the fucking bombs. Who needs Scotland in the face of
this crisis?
AG: Hang on to your hat, I just gave your orders to the pilot.
{ten seconds pass}
AG: Sir, the pilot radioed back. He's inviting me to come see the
Lord.
O: The bombs never got dropped?
AG: Not as far as we can tell.
O: Send an intercontinental ballistic missile then.
AG: One moment.
AG: Sir, every time someone goes to implement, they become a true
believer in this Mytreyah, and they refuse to follow orders. I'm afraid
to sic anyone else on this Mytreyah for fear of losing more personnel.
O: What else can we do?
AG: Sir, I'm afraid that this is looking like the Second Coming. I'm
looking to you for leadership here.
O: I'm still trying to recover from the shock of his flaccid fifteen
incher.
AG: CNN just now is running a video of him hovering about 20 feet in
the air as he talks to the crowds. The Scots are goners. Must be a
million in the crowd already.
O: Has he mentioned my name yet?
AG: No.
O: Any other world leaders being mentioned?
AG: No.
O: What's he telling the crowds to do?
AG: Enjoy themselves.
O: That's it?
AG: Yes.
O: What about paying the bills, the war on terrorism, having a new
car?
AG: No one seems to care about those issues. The crowd is not shouting
out questions. They all seem to think nothing matters but that this
Mytreyah has appeared and is taking care of all problems.
O: What does that stack up to look like?
AG: Not sure, Sir. If this guy is what he says he is, seems to me that
no one
[FairfieldLife] Father Gabriel Mejia of Colombia: Rehabilitating troubled youth
Father Gabriel Mejia of Colombia: Rehabilitating troubled youth through Transcendental Meditation by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News Translate This Article 20 April 2009 Reverend Father Gabriel Mejilla, who runs a rehabilitation centre for juvenile offenders in Colombia, spoke at a major press conference on 3 April 2009 in New York City, preceding the historic David Lynch Foundation benefit concert, 'Change Begins Within', at Radio City Music Hall the following day. Speaking on 14 April, Raja Jose Luis Alvarez, Raja of Invincible Latin America for the Global Country of World Peace, commented on how moved everyone was at the press conference by Father Mejia's simple, direct, and profound words about his life experiences. Father Mejia, whom Maharishi Mahesh Yogi referred to as the 'Saint of Colombia', teaches the Transcendental Meditation and Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programmes to the 3,500 residents of his centre. 'He offers these troubled youth the opportunity to change their lives from within, so that it becomes unnecessary to control their behaviours on a superficial level,' said Raja Luis. 'As the embodiment of support and caring for a new generation, Father Gabriel Mejia's presence was well appreciated at the benefit concert,' concluded Raja Luis. © Copyright 2009 Global Good News®
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Thanks. I had fun with it, whether it turns out to be a spoof or not. The thing is...when dealing with an organization as crazy as the TMO, you can never be sure. :-) And look at all of the elements in there that are NOT a spoof! (If this is indeed a spoof) So before the TBs out there get too high and mighty about this remember that for most of the way through the post YOU thought it was real too! I realized it was a spoof by the third paragraph. Uh-huh. The third paragraph: In a worldwide satellite conference celebration, amid cheers, applause, and the sounds of conches and ringing bells, His Majesty announced: 'It is a great joy to invite current ladies of Mother Divine to join Mother Divine Emerita and continue to sanctify the world with their blessing. This invitation will be of particular interest to our dear Mothers Divine who have blessed the world for at least 15 years or who are 35 years of age or older.' This really didn't trigger your spoof detector? Seriously?? Wow. Yeah. Jeez, its not like the announcement said something crazy like the MD's were going to be put on a scale and given their weight in gold. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Nice Rick. Thanks for posting this. From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:37 AM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Letter from Islam and updated list of published TM research Dear Colleagues, Below is a letter from Miral Shaaban in Cairo, Egypt, which relates how practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique has enriched the depth of her appreciation of her Muslim faith. I have added this letter to the collection of such letters posted on TruthAboutTM.com. I have also attached an updated Bibliography of independent research publications on TM 1970-2009, compiled by Dr. Roger Chalmers for the UK TM Web site. Please delete previous versions. All the best, David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Top Letters from Religious Leaders and Persons of Faith on the Transcendental Meditation Program A universal theme in these letters from religious leaders and persons is that the Transcendental Meditation program deepens their own spiritual life and enhances their comprehension and love of their own tradition. They note that it does not require any belief or change in life style to practice. They point out that the technique has been scientifically validated http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/Research/TMResearchPublications/index.cfm to reduce stress http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm#stress and improve mental clarity http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforEducation/ind ex.cfm , health http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm , and interpersonal relations http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforHealth/index. cfm#social , which are beneficial to any cultural tradition and which serve to increase appreciation and tolerance of other people's traditions and worldviews. These letters are used with permission of the writers. Contents: Andean Path Shaman Mallku Aribalo, November 4, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Mallku#Mallku Catholicism Father Leonard Dubi, December 1, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Dubi#Dubi Father Thomas R. Miller, June 17, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Miller#Miller Father Cletus Stein, October 2, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Stein#Stein Sister Carol Wirtz, August 25, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Wirtz#Wirtz Islam Nada http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Haider#Haider Haider, March 2, 2009 Mohammad Haghverdi, December 24, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Mohammad#Mohammad Atmane http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Kouider#Kouider Kouider, Ph.D., February 15, 2009 Miral http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Shaaban#Shaaban Shaaban, March 25, 2009 Judaism Senior http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Green#Green Rabbi Alan Green, March 13, 2009 Rabbi Michael Shevack, November 12, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Shevack#Shevack Mormon High http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Stephens#Stephens Priest Marc Stephens United Methodist Church Reverend Jonathan Chadwick, November 4, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Chadwick#Chadwick Unity Church Reverend Don Lansky, June 30, 2008 http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaReligion/Religious Leaders/index.cfm#Lansky#Lansky Islam Miral Shaaban, March 25, 2009 To all interested in self-development, I am a veiled Muslim that practices Transcendental Meditation (TM) and I cannot ever forget the first time I prayed after my first meditation. I learned the TM technique in December of 2006: I was speechless and cannot explain this state of complete serenity, contentment and gratitude for God. TM increased my level of acceptance and appreciation for my faith and strengthened my beliefs. For example, reading from the Qur'an is becoming more enjoyable and comforting at the same time, as now I can better link its teachings with everything around me: my level of comprehension of its meanings are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
Succession? Or was it Secession? --- On Tue, 4/21/09, I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com wrote: From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:32 PM On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal. net wrote: I thought I would start a topic where we could report on progress towards the End of America. In other news, the State of Texas is doing quite well financially. We're even turning away Stimulus money. We see Huntsville, TX as a growth town and we have no problem with Law and Order here. Ron Paul has spoken in favor of Texas succession. In God we trust. Everyone else we wiretap.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Succession? Or was it Secession? Why, both, of course. To prove my love for you, I had these flowers killed. Put them in water and it will prolong their slow, agonizing death.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tales at the End of America
I am the eternal wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Succession? Or was it Secession? Why, both, of course. To prove my love for you, I had these flowers killed. Put them in water and it will prolong their slow, agonizing death. I looked up the Texas economy and unemployment and you've been sniffing too many Yellow Roses. Don't listen to Bilderberg Perry either.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you help?
What specifically is human design and what value does it have. What are potential forms of restructuring one goes though after? - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you help? On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Rick Archer wrote: The cost is $100 per reading and would take place after my return from the course. Uh, oh... (It is in London at the end of June.) The highest first would be to take Taalia and my sister with me. My sister would pay her own way and come to take Taalia around London while I'm on the course. What an opportunity for Taalia to grow! We would share hotel and transportation costs. I am confident you would feel that your investment would be worth the reading I would do for you. Is there a $$-back guarantee if you don't? $100 is a very good price for a Human Design reading, I paid $350 for my first human design reading.. MIght explain why she's short of funds now, after throwing away $$ on stuff like this. mine did not have the Integral aspect added to it. The Integral aspect--gotta have the Integral! If you have already had one or two readings from me, please know there is much more to cover if you are so inclined. Hmmm...for another fee, I would guess. I will need quite a few participants in order to pull this off. If you are willing to help me out, please let me know ASAP, if I register by April 26 it will save $100 off the price of the course. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] If Maitreya appeared (Re: Questions and answers about the Star)
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: If Maitreya appears, First, I'm going to get checked. Then I'm going to fly over and buy Nabs a nice dinner at the establishment of his choice! HeHe Edg, this was a funny and creative little piece of writing :-) On the serious side; from the information I have on Obama he certainly is inspired directly by the ideas of Maitreya but he is not really acting on them. He certainly was one of several that was supported by the Masters, and who is open to Their messanges, during the past american presidential elections. He is trying to amend the huge loss of credit the americans lost during the Bush years, and he is doing well for you; his last appearance in latin America certainly was very positive indeed. His invitation towards Cuba is long overdue, though his demands towards the country is basically false and imperialistic and therefore unrealistic. In all his positive rethoric there is one word he does not use; sharing. Without sharing no justice, without justice no peace. I'm still waiting for Obama to come along and proove that he is more than just a good speaker. http://shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-04.htm To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
