[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Levitation by Nityananda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Samana is one of the five pranas, the one responsible for assimilation and digestion. To me it looks like the result of bringing a flow downward from the pit of the throat, and a flow upward from the tan t'ien point below the navel, to merge at the sacred heart or solar plexus, thence igniting or feeding the inner sun or soul there (Brahma) to explode outward in a blaze of light (the golden disk) to enlighten one's entire creation. You will find this effect of samana described in Patanjali. As this is the prana of fire, it appears to generate not only light, but heat as well. I do not see this prana as being particularly useful to generate levitation -- that should be the udana prana, moving upward from the pit of the throat to the crown above the head, also described in Patanjali. Incidentally, the udana prana (as the uppermost of the five pranas) would be the prana of akasha. (Also, all of the pranas evidently actually move not just in a linear but in a toroid manner, curving back upon themselves to create and recreate. Thus the udana moves inward to the throat, thence up the middle to the crown, thence out and downward to curve in again at the throat, and so on. The samana prana is effectively a double-torus.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: I find him far more impressive than Mr. Sri Sri, he is so cute, in spite of Nityananda's recent sex scandal. At least Nityananda is well informed when it comes to Yoga, he, however, may also be 50% fraud, and 50% genuine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The TMO now has a competition in the levitation business. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K78t2-W2jagfeature=channel What the heck is samana? Is that what TMers have heard as samyama? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Levitation by Nityananda
What the heck is samana? Is that what TMers have heard as samyama? One of the five 'aana_s' as Rory explained: 1. pra + aana = praaNa (r n : N) 2. ut [up] + aana = udaana 3. sam + aana = samaana 4. apa [down] + aana = apaana 5. vi [allover] + aana = vyaana YS III 41: samaana-jayaaj jvalanam Taimni: By mastery over samaana blazing of gastric fire. LOL?
[FairfieldLife] The TMO disconnect from the real world
Good raps, blusc0ut. I'll riff on the things it brought up for me -- not that my musings are what you had in mind, just that what you wrote got me to thinking about them. And -- as always -- these are just musings, theories, me trying in retrospect to make sense of something that probably doesn't make any. They are NOT a declaration of Truth or claim that this is what was going on. Basically, I've always wondered how much of the reclusive side of the TMO was a product of the social mindset of the organization, and how much was a product of the TM and TM- sidhi techniques themselves. I think a case can be made for either one, or both. The fear of contact with the real world thang can be seen (at least by me) as an extension of the Treat the meditators like children who can't handle themselves out in the real world mindset established in the first TM residence courses. Participants were actually for- bidden to leave the course and go into town, or to do work-related things, or do much of anything real. And make no mistake about it, this instruction was *never* for the benefit of the participants. When I worked at the Regional Office, I got to see the lists of instructions for residence course leaders sent from Seelisberg; they stated in clear terms that the reason we were to keep people from leaving courses was to prevent any possible embarrassment to the TMO. We were to make sure they didn't wander into some town and, being totally spaced-out, do something that would reflect badly on TM and the TMO. This treat them like children mindset was naturally extended to longer courses when they began to appear, and to the reclusive butt-bouncing communities or courses when they appeared. On the other hand, I can see that a lot of this fear of the real world comes from TM and the TM-sidhis itself. I have participated in meditation retreats from other traditions in which we were meditating 12 or more hours a day and there was no such suggestion to not go into town. Because there was no need for such a suggestion; no one was ever spaced out. The meditation worked as meditation was *supposed* to work, and created increased clarity and the ability to cope in the participants. So if something came up that required their attention in the real world, they were not only able to handle it, they (we) tended to do so more efficiently, and with no trace of spaced- out-ed-ness, only increased clarity of mind. On another level, I was exposed in the Rama trip to a very different model for what spiritual attainment meant. Everything in that org was presented in terms of Does it fly in the real world, or Does it have any value in the real world. There was never any sense of anyone having a day job, as opposed to their spiritual life. Our jobs *were* our spiritual lives, and an integral part of our sadhana. We were taught to use them as an opportunity to focus and excel, and taught that excellence in one's career was FAR more an indication of spiritual progress than any internal, subjective experience. Compare and contrast to the TMO, in which many people didn't even *have* careers. Many of them followed the monk model and went all Purusha or Mother Divine, begging others for money so they never even *had* to work. Instead they got to focus on the subjective side of their lives, which was then *never tested* by exposing it to the real world. One of the reasons I bailed from the TMO in the first place was that I had begun to notice that good experiences seemed to be linked to being on a course. Leave the course, and these experiences went away. This did not strike me as a balanced or valid approach to spiritual experience; if it can't persist in the midst of the busy marketplace, and can only exist in some rarefied retreat setting, it's not real...it's as artificial as the retreat or monastery concept itself. Suffice it to say I'm not a fan of the recluse approach to spiritual development. I don't feel that ANY subjective experience is valid or of lasting value unless it can be had while working in and interfacing with the real world. I don't think Maharishi ever thought this way, which is natural if you think about it because *he* never really interfaced with the real world. From Day One he was treated like the monk he was, and other people both paid for his life and sheltered him from the real world 24/7. I don't think that he ever had much respect for career or for actual accomplishment out in the world because he never experienced those things. He was a dreamer, and his view of the world was IMO largely a dream, rarely based on reality. I think that a *balanced* spiritual life is one in which everyone pays their own way (by working at some job that allows them to do so), and has no problem interfacing gracefully and *well* (meaning successfully) with the world around them, and with people who aren't a part of the same spiritual path. Fear of those people or of the real world -- and a reluctance to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drum rudiments and siddhi_s?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: It used to be the 26 rudiments but they've added the extra ones. I passed the National Association of Rudimental Drummers test in high school. My teacher was the world's champion rudimental drummer at the time (he later went on to play for Sammy Davis and Merv Griffin orchestras). And where I live now drum corps is VERY big because the world champion Concord Blue Devils is the local corps. They field practice at the local community college just 4 miles away and I've been to a some of their shows. They have kids come from all over the world to play in that corps which has a jazz oriented repertoire. During the 1980s I used to teach high school drum lines. Some on the best military drummers might be in Switzerland, although I'm not a fan of that tight tuning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJiJ0blIQsfeature=related I like more a Buddy Rich -like snare sound, even if visually this is nothing like the Swiss show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdqI-_8sDI (Drum solo starts at about 3:00)
[FairfieldLife] The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!
For hundreds of years the Swiss have made a fortune by enabling tax evaders worldwide to hide their money in Swiss banks. Keeping secrets is in a sense their bread and butter. So what are they going to do when one of their own blabs to Wikileaks to pull back the covers on the Swiss involvement in ripping off the governments of other countries, and by extension their people? My prediction is that the poor guy -- hero though he may be -- is looking at a long, long, long prison sentence. One thing the Swiss are not is forgiving; the fine in Geneva for placing your trash can out on the sidewalk for pickup one minute earlier than the prescribed time is 3000 Euros. Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow by the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history, Rudolf Elmer, two days before he goes on trial in his native Switzerland. The offshore bank account details of 2,000 high net worth individuals and corporations detailing massive potential tax evasion will be handed over to the WikiLeaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/wikileaks British and American individuals and companies are among the offshore clients whose details will be contained on CDs presented to WikiLeaks at the Frontline Club in London. Those involved include, Elmer tells the Observer, approximately 40 politicians. Elmer, who after his press conference will return to Switzerland from exile in Mauritius to face trial, is a former chief operating officer in the Cayman Islands http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/caymanislands and employee of the powerful Julius Baer bank, which accuses him of stealing the information. He is also at a time when the activities of banks are a matter of public concern one of a small band of employees and executives seeking to blow the whistle on what they see as unprofessional, immoral and even potentially criminal activity by powerful international financial institutions. Along with the City of London and Wall Street, Switzerland is a fortress of banking and financial services, but famously secretive and expert in the concealment of wealth from all over the world for tax evasion and other extra-legal purposes. Elmer says he is releasing the information in order to educate society. The list includes high net worth individuals, multinational conglomerates and financial institutions hedge funds. They are said to be using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax. They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia from all over. Clients include business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates from both sides of the Atlantic. Elmer says: Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on. What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures, he told the Observer. I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering although these cases involve tax evasion. Elmer was held in custody for 30 days in 2005, and is charged with breaking Swiss bank secrecy laws, forging documents and sending threatening messages to two officials at Julius Baer. Elmer says: I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also. Once you become part of senior management, he says, and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy. The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of state department documents. Elmer has been hounded by the Swiss authorities and media since electing to become a whistleblower, and his health and career have suffered. My understanding is that my client's attempts to get the banks to act over various complaints he made came to nothing internally, says Elmer's lawyer, Jack Blum, one of America's leading experts in tracking offshore money.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Levitation by Nityananda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: What the heck is samana? Is that what TMers have heard as samyama? BTW, I'd recommend that we write that word rather like 'sanyama', or, heck, even 'sañyama'(like in Spanish 'mañana'. FWIW, at least Maharishi's giitaa paNDits pronounce that word so that it sounds to me *almost* like sigh-yama! :0 (It's true that that word is a combination of the prefix 'sam' and the verbal noun 'yama', but before most consonants the 'm' in e.g. 'sam' changes to the so called anusvaara [aftersound] or anunaasikaa[1; through-the-nose(sound)?], whose pronunciation depends on the phonetic properties of the following consonant.) 1. The distinction between those two is not clear to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Nice and thoughtful post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Good post, Buck. I had similar thoughts about this paper, but you expressed them better than I could have. The author does seem to realize that the TMO doesn't quite fit the model he describes, especially regarding the TM-Sidhis. I think you nailed the problem: he considers the program's goals supernatural, which is appropriate from his perspective, but as far as he's concerned that means wholly imaginary. And I would agree with that. We were quite surprised when the whole siddhi thing came up, with constant 'news' from various courses about the latest attainments. I didn't think that supernatural feats was really I was aspiring, but we were told, in golden brochures, that enlighetnment is not complete without attainment of the siddhis. I still remember the first brochure I saw, it was called 'enlightenment and the siddhis' (still written with two dd), and actually full of the most phantastic and inspiring experience reports. Later on posters where printed, saying: Become a Sidha, a Superman. Ads saying: Breakthru in human potential, photos showing people seemingly flying, underneath: First stage of flying. The supernatural was heavily used as advertisment! It is also clear that, after those supernatural feats didn't really turn out to be true, that most people settled for the experiences they had, which could be quite exhilerating and beautiful, I agree. But at the time, rumors were going around, that Maharishi would soon fly over LLake Lucern, at a press conference, and this would be the great breakthrough for the movement. This certainly had christian undertones, of Jesus walking on water. I am not denying that we stayed in for the daily experiences, after the first years of constant expectations. But why wre these expectations raised at all, why the whole show? You don't think MMY believed the expectations were going to be fulfilled in short order? I would deceive you if I claim I can answer this, of course I don't know. I also must admit that I didn't really think about it, at least not much. The larger question would be: was Maharishi able to fly? At different times, my answer was different of course. Now, at present, I don't believe in flying at all. So, I also don't believe Maharishi could fly, or Guru Dev could. (Even though I heard reports that GD was being watched hovering in the air by some Indians, who told one of my friends then). I can only speculate, and its sort of moot to do so. Did Maharishi believe that flying is possible? I think yes, given his Hindu background. Did he believe his disciples could achieve something in short term, he couldn't do himself? I don't think. Did he believe it was possible long term? Yes, probably. Did Maharishi make promises which he couldn't know they turn out to be true? Of course, he did this all the time. There are at least some hints how he thought: One incident was on a lecture, where he suggested that we produce foam in sidhaland. The somebody asked, Maharishi, are we not soon gona fly, why we need to manufacture foam. He laughed and said, of course we will soon fly, and the foam mattresses would be only for the beginners. In fact he said for the children I think. At the same lecture, somebody presented a model to him, representing the vedas. He lifted it up, saying we could use it at the lecture and tell everybody that *This* is the real veda, and catch their attention for about ten minutes with that. In the end of the lecture everybody woud know that everything is Brahman anyway, (and that this is just maya). This is how he thought! Combine these two statements, and draw your own conclusions. That seems to me the most logical explanation. I mean, he'd have been taking a big risk in promising something so spectacular if he knew he couldn't deliver it. He was always doing it. He was lucky the experiences were enjoyable enough for many folks to want to continue after it became apparent they weren't going to be flying anytime soon. He knew that would be the case. Many times he asked people about specific states of experiences, of enlightenment, and their were always people raising their hands. Later on he would say, that poeple just make experiences up. Thats what I heard. So he misses, as you say, the role of subjective experience; The subjective experience is certainly a phase of the movement mentioned in the article, as 'mystic phase' and 'cosmic consciousness phase'. Thats all about subjective experiences, agreed? I didn't get that impression, actually, no. I could be wrong, but I assumed he was referring to the teaching and to beliefs. He
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: One big benefit of the sidhis is that they do lead to refinement of the senses over time, yet this progressively finer and finer sight, smell, touch, hearing, and taste doesn't proceed with anyone in an objective text book fashion. I must admit that this is actually true. They used the phrase 'taste of siddhis' and that was true quite literaly. I must also say, that the flying, the hoping, always did the trick, even if meditation wasn't good, the flying always did it. But at a later time experiences opened up, seemingly unconnected to the sutras and all the rest of the program, of any TM experiences I knew until then, and it made the whole practice superfluous for me. You may attribute it to the program, but I couldn't attribute it to any of its specifics. But I think that long practice and introspection, plus and inquiring mind helped. My thinking though is: why not go there directly? Why all this spiritual entertainment? Because the experience of any sutra is one that fuses simple subjective inner awareness with outer experience, there is no way to predict how each of us will respond to these simple formulas. One of us might find immediate refinement in hearing; that space between thought and hearing, or another might gain refinement in the sense of sight. Someone else feels no sensation at all. There isn't any training manual for any of it, or what our personal experiences are going to be for any of it. For the sidhis, I see Maharishi producing a massive ad campaign to get people to practice the techniques he developed. Created almost an inner circus atmosphere. We each had our own version of the dream to nurture us and keep us going. I do recall someone equating TM with growth towards an ever awakened inner self, for lack of a better phrase, which MMY called CC, and then using the refining ability of the TMSP to enhance growth towards experiencing the finest and elementary elements of our world, or what MMY called GC. In retrospect, it has been a realistic curriculum. Hard work though. Maybe the TM and TMSP techniques are easy, but integrating all of what they uncover over time is like anything else, and takes plenty of elbow grease. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Good post, Buck. I had similar thoughts about this paper, but you expressed them better than I could have. The author does seem to realize that the TMO doesn't quite fit the model he describes, especially regarding the TM-Sidhis. I think you nailed the problem: he considers the program's goals supernatural, which is appropriate from his perspective, but as far as he's concerned that means wholly imaginary. And I would agree with that. We were quite surprised when the whole siddhi thing came up, with constant 'news' from various courses about the latest attainments. I didn't think that supernatural feats was really I was aspiring, but we were told, in golden brochures, that enlighetnment is not complete without attainment of the siddhis. I still remember the first brochure I saw, it was called 'enlightenment and the siddhis' (still written with two dd), and actually full of the most phantastic and inspiring experience reports. I don't think that MMY ever denied the siddhis. At the start, he said they were a distraction but later changed his tune. HOwever, he still insisted that they were a relative phenomenon compared to pure consciousness even though their practice would help stabilize pure consciousness in activity. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: True or false: perfection of sutras -- MERU degree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: ,,, and people like Bevin got a Ph.D. for being able to identify three objects in a box using three different extended senses. 3 donuts? The three senses, let me guess: touch, smell, taste
[FairfieldLife] Re: True or false: perfection of sutras -- MERU degree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: ,,, and people like Bevin got a Ph.D. for being able to identify three objects in a box using three different extended senses. 3 donuts? The three senses, let me guess: touch, smell, taste Hilarious. And the perfect answer to such obvious bullshit. On my TM-sidhis course Bevan was the nominal course leader. He had to be told five times in five successive visits that a number of the course participants had no access to hot water in their bathrooms. Finally someone had to yell at him to get him to accept it and do something about it. The doing some- thing took all of ten seconds; he told a hotel staffer about it and it was fixed that day. But nothing *would* have ever been done about it if my friend hadn't yelled at him. Some seeing. It took him five weeks to hear something being told to him, and he didn't hear that until it was shouted at him. He was probably too busy posturing and toadying and yes, eating donuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: True or false: perfection of sutras -- MERU degree
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: ,,, and people like Bevin got a Ph.D. for being able to identify three objects in a box using three different extended senses. 3 donuts? The three senses, let me guess: touch, smell, taste Hilarious. And the perfect answer to such obvious bullshit. Yeah, and it would be quite obviously hypocritical to talk of 'side effects' of the siddhis, and then test them. On my TM-sidhis course Bevan was the nominal course leader. He had to be told five times in five successive visits that a number of the course participants had no access to hot water in their bathrooms. Finally someone had to yell at him to get him to accept it and do something about it. The doing some- thing took all of ten seconds; he told a hotel staffer about it and it was fixed that day. But nothing *would* have ever been done about it if my friend hadn't yelled at him. Some seeing. It took him five weeks to hear something being told to him, and he didn't hear that until it was shouted at him. He was probably too busy posturing and toadying and yes, eating donuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO disconnect from the real world
A few comments just in the interests of balance... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Good raps, blusc0ut. I'll riff on the things it brought up for me -- not that my musings are what you had in mind, just that what you wrote got me to thinking about them. And -- as always -- these are just musings, theories, me trying in retrospect to make sense of something that probably doesn't make any. They are NOT a declaration of Truth or claim that this is what was going on. Basically, I've always wondered how much of the reclusive side of the TMO was a product of the social mindset of the organization, and how much was a product of the TM and TM- sidhi techniques themselves. I think a case can be made for either one, or both. The fear of contact with the real world thang can be seen (at least by me) as an extension of the Treat the meditators like children who can't handle themselves out in the real world mindset established in the first TM residence courses. Participants were actually for- bidden to leave the course and go into town, or to do work-related things, or do much of anything real. And make no mistake about it, this instruction was *never* for the benefit of the participants. When I worked at the Regional Office, I got to see the lists of instructions for residence course leaders sent from Seelisberg; they stated in clear terms that the reason we were to keep people from leaving courses was to prevent any possible embarrassment to the TMO. We were to make sure they didn't wander into some town and, being totally spaced-out, do something that would reflect badly on TM and the TMO. This treat them like children mindset was naturally extended to longer courses when they began to appear, and to the reclusive butt-bouncing communities or courses when they appeared. I don't think treat them like children actually applies, not if course participants *were* vulnerable to getting into messes if they left the course while spaced out. If they were vulnerable, what would the alternative be? What would treat them like adults mean if doing the course program as instructed rendered them incapable of acting like adults? Regardless of whether the reason for keeping participants from leaving was to prevent them from embarrassing the TMO or to prevent them from embarrassing themselves, if either concern was real, it would seem irresponsible not to do so. On the other hand, I can see that a lot of this fear of the real world comes from TM and the TM-sidhis itself. I have participated in meditation retreats from other traditions in which we were meditating 12 or more hours a day and there was no such suggestion to not go into town. Because there was no need for such a suggestion; no one was ever spaced out. The meditation worked as meditation was *supposed* to work, and created increased clarity and the ability to cope in the participants. So if something came up that required their attention in the real world, they were not only able to handle it, they (we) tended to do so more efficiently, and with no trace of spaced- out-ed-ness, only increased clarity of mind. Typical reports from TMers who went on courses were that they experienced increased clarity and ability to cope after the course was over. That was one of the reasons for going on courses in the first place. Further, it might be suggested that no one got spaced out on these courses from other traditions because the meditation wasn't as powerful as that practiced on the TM courses. On another level, I was exposed in the Rama trip to a very different model for what spiritual attainment meant. Everything in that org was presented in terms of Does it fly in the real world, or Does it have any value in the real world. There was never any sense of anyone having a day job, as opposed to their spiritual life. Our jobs *were* our spiritual lives, and an integral part of our sadhana. We were taught to use them as an opportunity to focus and excel, and taught that excellence in one's career was FAR more an indication of spiritual progress than any internal, subjective experience. On the other hand, the Rama trip has been perceived by some as very damaging and Lenz himself as a scam artist, collecting most of the money his followers made and having them lie on their resumes in order to be hired for high-paying jobs, among other things. Somehow that doesn't seem like an environment that would foster genuine spiritual progress. Compare and contrast to the TMO, in which many people didn't even *have* careers. Many of them followed the monk model and went all Purusha or Mother Divine, begging others for money so they never even *had* to work. Instead they got to focus on the subjective side of their lives, which was then *never tested* by exposing it to the real world. Many if not most Purusha and Mother Divine didn't join these programs on a permanent
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Joe: When rajas do the odd tour (very odd), they naturally scurry back lickety split to Vlodrop (or FF or TMO in India)... From what I've heard, very few rajas actually live at TM Centers. Almost all of them live in homes, just like normal people do. None of the Rajas probably live at Vlodrop, NE. It makes sense that none of the TMO Rajas would actually live inside the Patanjali Dome in Fairfield! Why can't we have some honesty on the forum, instead of the constant fibbing? I mean, reality is really enough without adding a lot of made-up stuff about Tony and Bevan. There is no place called TMO in India. Get a grip, Joe! Do you get all of your TMO information from FFL? It doesn't seem like you've talked to anyone inside the TMO for a decade or more. What's up with that? I was clueless to understand at the time, having been out of the TMO for nearly 10 years at that time: Purusha, Mother Divine, Vedic Atom and more... Apparently Joe was WAY out of the loop! At any rate, I don't see Joe's wife's name on the TMO list of approved TM Teachers. Never hear of a Joe Geezer in the TM Movement and I've been inside the movement since 1964. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
That's interesting since everyone from the Patanjali tradition, the Kasmhir Shaivite tradition to the Holy Shankaracharya Order says essentially the opposite. Siddhi cultivation = no enlightenment. Sawry. You do get the drama of rising and falling, which some seem to find very exciting and can't stop talking about it. And it's endlessly amusing to watch as people rehash it over and over again. Maharishi Samsara™. Sponsored by a celebrity near you. ;-) I guess if you want to enslave people, you wouldn't come right out and tell them now, would you? :-) Like Anna from the V always says We are of Peace. Always. Uh huh, sure you are Anna. Budhha Shakyamuni had it right. Siddhis are the most intense forms of suffering possible.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
That last bit Judy is fascinating... I know exactly what you mean. That transition between the inner TM world and the outer normal world is the stuff that books and movies could be made out of... authfriend: I moved to the Jersey shore for good in 2002 after living in the heart of Manhattan for over half a century; and when I go to NYC now, I can hardly wait to leave again because it's so noisy and dirty and smelly and crowded and rushed... This is very interesting, but it seems to be an extreme case. Manhattan to the Jersey Shore? That certainly is extreme. Moving from Manhattan to the Jersey Shore sounds like an exercise in stress some management, to say the least! So, I'm not sure how many here could relate to your experience. Most of us probably live in suburban homes in Middle America and drive cars to work in cities on a daily basis. From what you've just written, driving a car to get groceries at a supermarket would be a terrifying experience for you. But most of us I suspect, go thorough life weaving TM into our lives in a more relaxed and easy manner - mot at all trying to straddle anything together. Life around here just seems to come together all the time with normal activity. So, I wonder what others experience with TM practice - those who support families and live and work in towns and cities; leading a more normal life in the suburbs? When people lead a normal household life, it's just an average day to drive downtown to a job, shop at a store, and then drive home to a family in a house in a quiet neighborhood and meditate. It's not a mindset it's just what most TMers seem to enjoy; the average TMers isn't big on extremes. We want everything to work naturally, when it happens. How to avoid extremes? Do not extremely try to avoid extremes!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: Nice and thoughtful post. Thank you. Neat conversation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip That seems to me the most logical explanation. I mean, he'd have been taking a big risk in promising something so spectacular if he knew he couldn't deliver it. He was always doing it. There's a difference between a promise he knew he couldn't deliver and a promise he didn't know *whether* he could deliver; that's what I'm trying to get at. He did take big risks along the latter line, but I'd be very surprised if he'd made promises that he *knew* would crash and burn. He was lucky the experiences were enjoyable enough for many folks to want to continue after it became apparent they weren't going to be flying anytime soon. He knew that would be the case. Well, he didn't know until he'd started the program! Many times he asked people about specific states of experiences, of enlightenment, and their were always people raising their hands. Later on he would say, that poeple just make experiences up. Thats what I heard. Do you think he meant *none* of the reported experiences were genuine? snip IMO if you just go to the domes because of your own personal experiences, its quite alright. What I don't believe is that there is any effect to society at large, that moral arguments should be used at all, and the event is *used* to control and sanction people. I'm not 100 percent positive about that, especially about the control and sanction part. I can understand why folks would *feel* controlled given the way it's all run, but I'm not sure there's a specific agenda to accomplish that. But we agree there is control? There are boards who control people, and there are lists of people, 'black lists' right? Yes indeed. I just don't think these programs were designed *for the purpose of* controlling the participants. But maybe that's not what you were suggesting. I even know this from my own country. If you were an initiator, and known to not be active anymore, and known to have run off to another master, you were on such a list. And we also agree, I suppose, that the group program is *used* to sanction people. You have to decide, you go either with their rules, or go off, that is the thinking. Sure. I don't actually see anything wrong with that. I don't necessarily agree with all the rules, but we have to make choices like that in daily life all the time. If I want to be able to drive my car, I have to get it inspected at regular intervals regardless of my opinion of whether the car is safe to drive. As to the social effects, while I'm skeptical, I don't rule out the possibility. I made a post last week sometime about a new study (non-TM) that has found a gradual but significant decline in international hostilities over several decades. And then there's the fact that the crime rate has been dropping, in the U.S. and in some other countries, and nobody really knows why. Sure. As long as I remember, claims were being made, and sometimes there was supporting data, and sometimes it was just the opposite. I would think, that if there is such an effect, it couldn't be only TM specific, you would have to include all the other spiritual efforts of other groups as well, like say the presence of enlightened masters, or very advanced other meditators or groups. In that sense the data cannot be accurate. Its just too exclusive, at least for my taste. I don't think the Maharishi Effect, if it exists, can ever be proved. (I emphasize that the studies and statistics I referred to above were *not* associated with TM in any way.) I'm inclined to agree that any such trends can't be TM- specific; *what proportion* of the trends is due to TM rather than other efforts, I couldn't say. I would point out that both trends, decreased international hostilities and less crime, began fairly recently, whereas there have always been other such efforts, always been very advanced meditators and groups, always been enlightened masters. TM is the new kid on the block in that regard. Is the fact that the trends didn't take off until after the TM effort started just a coincidence? I dunno. The other example is the massacre to tibetan monks at the chinese invasion. I just don't buy that the meditation of thousands of tibetan monks, has no effect, while the proper TM /TM Sidhis do the trick. There is not such a big difference in my opinion (some here might want to argue, that tibetan monks are better at meditation) But there's always karma involved (in the case of the monks, I assume it would have been sacrificial-type karma; I'm not suggesting karmic punishment). And on the other hand, we can't know whether their meditation was powerful enough to protect them. Again, I don't think we can ever expect to see correlations that would conclusively identify
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: That's interesting since everyone from the Patanjali tradition, the Kasmhir Shaivite tradition to the Holy Shankaracharya Order says essentially the opposite. Siddhi cultivation = no enlightenment. Sawry. You do get the drama of rising and falling, which some seem to find very exciting and can't stop talking about it. And it's endlessly amusing to watch as people rehash it over and over again. Maharishi Samsara. Sponsored by a celebrity near you. ;-) I guess if you want to enslave people, you wouldn't come right out and tell them now, would you? :-) Like Anna from the V always says We are of Peace. Always. Uh huh, sure you are Anna. Budhha Shakyamuni had it right. Siddhis are the most intense forms of suffering possible. A view, not THE view, This may be an excellent position for people and orgs that cannot do the siddhis. Ah, she is not so hot, and she's stuck up one might have said in high school about a popular girl -- as a defense mechanism countering the fact that said person could never in a million years get a date with such a girl. Siddhis would be the most intense form of suffering IF they were pursued for themselves, to be used in getting deeper and deeper into material life. Same could be said for a job at Goldman Sachs with $5 mil bonuses. However, siddhis as an exercise to dye / fade the cloth at subtle levels and as a validation mechanism of established higher states, do not seem to be a hellish thing. Tools and tools. What is wrong with tools -- unless you are the Tool Man Tim and would sleep with them if you could.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!
Yeah. but the trains run on time --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: For hundreds of years the Swiss have made a fortune by enabling tax evaders worldwide to hide their money in Swiss banks. Keeping secrets is in a sense their bread and butter. So what are they going to do when one of their own blabs to Wikileaks to pull back the covers on the Swiss involvement in ripping off the governments of other countries, and by extension their people? My prediction is that the poor guy -- hero though he may be -- is looking at a long, long, long prison sentence. One thing the Swiss are not is forgiving; the fine in Geneva for placing your trash can out on the sidewalk for pickup one minute earlier than the prescribed time is 3000 Euros. Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow by the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history, Rudolf Elmer, two days before he goes on trial in his native Switzerland. The offshore bank account details of 2,000 high net worth individuals and corporations detailing massive potential tax evasion will be handed over to the WikiLeaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/wikileaks British and American individuals and companies are among the offshore clients whose details will be contained on CDs presented to WikiLeaks at the Frontline Club in London. Those involved include, Elmer tells the Observer, approximately 40 politicians. Elmer, who after his press conference will return to Switzerland from exile in Mauritius to face trial, is a former chief operating officer in the Cayman Islands http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/caymanislands and employee of the powerful Julius Baer bank, which accuses him of stealing the information. He is also at a time when the activities of banks are a matter of public concern one of a small band of employees and executives seeking to blow the whistle on what they see as unprofessional, immoral and even potentially criminal activity by powerful international financial institutions. Along with the City of London and Wall Street, Switzerland is a fortress of banking and financial services, but famously secretive and expert in the concealment of wealth from all over the world for tax evasion and other extra-legal purposes. Elmer says he is releasing the information in order to educate society. The list includes high net worth individuals, multinational conglomerates and financial institutions hedge funds. They are said to be using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax. They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia from all over. Clients include business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates from both sides of the Atlantic. Elmer says: Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on. What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures, he told the Observer. I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering although these cases involve tax evasion. Elmer was held in custody for 30 days in 2005, and is charged with breaking Swiss bank secrecy laws, forging documents and sending threatening messages to two officials at Julius Baer. Elmer says: I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also. Once you become part of senior management, he says, and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy. The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of state department documents. Elmer has been hounded by the Swiss authorities and media since electing to become a whistleblower, and his health and career have suffered. My understanding is that my
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote: snip authfriend: I moved to the Jersey shore for good in 2002 after living in the heart of Manhattan for over half a century; and when I go to NYC now, I can hardly wait to leave again because it's so noisy and dirty and smelly and crowded and rushed... snip From what you've just written, driving a car to get groceries at a supermarket would be a terrifying experience for you. It sure would be, seeing as how I never learned to drive. Fortunately the supermarket is within easy walking distance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: That's interesting since everyone from the Patanjali tradition, the Kasmhir Shaivite tradition to the Holy Shankaracharya Order says essentially the opposite. Siddhi cultivation = no enlightenment. Sawry. You do get the drama of rising and falling, which some seem to find very exciting and can't stop talking about it. And it's endlessly amusing to watch as people rehash it over and over again. Maharishi Samsara. Sponsored by a celebrity near you. ;-) I guess if you want to enslave people, you wouldn't come right out and tell them now, would you? :-) Like Anna from the V always says We are of Peace. Always. Uh huh, sure you are Anna. Budhha Shakyamuni had it right. Siddhis are the most intense forms of suffering possible. To those who studied the great teachings of S[h]ankara [...] Buddhistic philosophies looked contemptible. [...] As S[h]ankara continued his merciless refutation of all hostile creeds and philosophies, the teachings of the Tatha[a]gata became lifeless... Ma[a]dhava Vidya[a]raNya, S[h]ankara-dig-vijaya. The traditional life of Shri[i] S[h]ankara[a]cha[a]rya. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO disconnect from the real world
TurquoiseB: I have participated in meditation retreats from other traditions in which we were meditating 12 or more hours a day and there was no such suggestion to not go into town... Not sure which retreats you're citing. It's just a matter of degree. A retreat by definition indicates going to a place where you can meditate with groups for an extended time. Several years ago I attended a retreat with the late Shunryo Suzuki, who founded the San Francisco Zen Center. Soto Zen retreats are very strict - you are supposed to leave your shoes outside the door http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shoes.htm . In contrast, I once attended a retreat with Jerry Jarvis and the event was very open and liberal. The center had plenty of free ice cream! But, I mean, who would want to pay all that money for a TMO retreat and then walk across the street to buy an ice cream cone? It doesn't make any sense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Shankara and disciples flying yogicly: http://tinyurl.com/6gngh4e Ma[a]dhava Vidya[a]raNya, S[h]ankara-dig-vijaya. The traditional life of Shri[i] S[h]ankara[a]cha[a]rya. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!
I thought it was the ski-lifts. From: tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 7:49:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Swiss are going to crucify this guy! Yeah. but the trains run on time --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: For hundreds of years the Swiss have made a fortune by enabling tax evaders worldwide to hide their money in Swiss banks. Keeping secrets is in a sense their bread and butter. So what are they going to do when one of their own blabs to Wikileaks to pull back the covers on the Swiss involvement in ripping off the governments of other countries, and by extension their people? My prediction is that the poor guy -- hero though he may be -- is looking at a long, long, long prison sentence. One thing the Swiss are not is forgiving; the fine in Geneva for placing your trash can out on the sidewalk for pickup one minute earlier than the prescribed time is 3000 Euros. Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow by the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history, Rudolf Elmer, two days before he goes on trial in his native Switzerland. The offshore bank account details of 2,000 high net worth individuals and corporations – detailing massive potential tax evasion – will be handed over to the WikiLeaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/wikileaks British and American individuals and companies are among the offshore clients whose details will be contained on CDs presented to WikiLeaks at the Frontline Club in London. Those involved include, Elmer tells the Observer, approximately 40 politicians. Elmer, who after his press conference will return to Switzerland from exile in Mauritius to face trial, is a former chief operating officer in the Cayman Islands http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/caymanislands and employee of the powerful Julius Baer bank, which accuses him of stealing the information. He is also – at a time when the activities of banks are a matter of public concern – one of a small band of employees and executives seeking to blow the whistle on what they see as unprofessional, immoral and even potentially criminal activity by powerful international financial institutions. Along with the City of London and Wall Street, Switzerland is a fortress of banking and financial services, but famously secretive and expert in the concealment of wealth from all over the world for tax evasion and other extra-legal purposes. Elmer says he is releasing the information in order to educate society. The list includes high net worth individuals, multinational conglomerates and financial institutions – hedge funds. They are said to be using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax. They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia – from all over. Clients include business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates – from both sides of the Atlantic. Elmer says: Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on. What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures, he told the Observer. I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering – although these cases involve tax evasion. Elmer was held in custody for 30 days in 2005, and is charged with breaking Swiss bank secrecy laws, forging documents and sending threatening messages to two officials at Julius Baer. Elmer says: I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also. Once you become part of senior management, he says, and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle – and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy … Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy. The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!
Yes, and that is far more important than trains on time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I thought it was the ski-lifts. From: tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 7:49:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!  Yeah. but the trains run on time --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote: For hundreds of years the Swiss have made a fortune by enabling tax evaders worldwide to hide their money in Swiss banks. Keeping secrets is in a sense their bread and butter. So what are they going to do when one of their own blabs to Wikileaks to pull back the covers on the Swiss involvement in ripping off the governments of other countries, and by extension their people? My prediction is that the poor guy -- hero though he may be -- is looking at a long, long, long prison sentence. One thing the Swiss are not is forgiving; the fine in Geneva for placing your trash can out on the sidewalk for pickup one minute earlier than the prescribed time is 3000 Euros. Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow by the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history, Rudolf Elmer, two days before he goes on trial in his native Switzerland. The offshore bank account details of 2,000 high net worth individuals and corporations â detailing massive potential tax evasion â will be handed over to the WikiLeaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/wikileaks British and American individuals and companies are among the offshore clients whose details will be contained on CDs presented to WikiLeaks at the Frontline Club in London. Those involved include, Elmer tells the Observer, approximately 40 politicians. Elmer, who after his press conference will return to Switzerland from exile in Mauritius to face trial, is a former chief operating officer in the Cayman Islands http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/caymanislands and employee of the powerful Julius Baer bank, which accuses him of stealing the information. He is also â at a time when the activities of banks are a matter of public concern â one of a small band of employees and executives seeking to blow the whistle on what they see as unprofessional, immoral and even potentially criminal activity by powerful international financial institutions. Along with the City of London and Wall Street, Switzerland is a fortress of banking and financial services, but famously secretive and expert in the concealment of wealth from all over the world for tax evasion and other extra-legal purposes. Elmer says he is releasing the information in order to educate society. The list includes high net worth individuals, multinational conglomerates and financial institutions â hedge funds. They are said to be using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax. They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia â from all over. Clients include business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates â from both sides of the Atlantic. Elmer says: Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on. What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures, he told the Observer. I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering â although these cases involve tax evasion. Elmer was held in custody for 30 days in 2005, and is charged with breaking Swiss bank secrecy laws, forging documents and sending threatening messages to two officials at Julius Baer. Elmer says: I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also. Once you become part of senior management, he says, and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle â and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy ⦠Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy. The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer
[FairfieldLife] Lunacy in Tucson
Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lunacy in Tucson
Correction to this post: it wasn't a Tea Party event but rather an ABC taping. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 8:40:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lunacy in Tucson Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints?
[FairfieldLife] Study: Penis size and the number of guns you own
Scientists discover that no matter how many guns you own, your penis will remain small and insignificant January 14, 2011 by William K. Wolfrum http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/author/administrator/ SWEDEN After a full decade of research, a team of Swedish scientists has confirmed that no matter how many guns a man owns, his penis will remain small and insignificant. Ve look at ze mens wit ze guns and ve look at ze penis of zeese mens, said Dr. Sven Svenenberg of the Svenlandia Institute. Itz veery zad. Ze penis is so wee. The research looked at 300 average American men who owned multiple guns. Those 300 were then weighed, measure, and found wanting. Following that, the men were then encouraged to buy even more guns over the next year. They were then were then weighed and measured again, and found wanting even more. Ze penis iz so wee, still, said Dr. Svenenberg in an accent that no one could really identify. Iz almozt of no uze. Like a wee pinkie toe. American scientist Tim Johnson said the research proved what has long been suspected that owning guns for hunting and self-protection is generally a lie and that most men buy guns because they feel it will be an extension of their manhood. SEE PHOTO: http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/wboxerw19/glenn-beck-gun-violenc\ e.jpg http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/wboxerw19/glenn-beck-gun-violen\ ce.jpg We've known this all along. We call it the `Glenn Beck Effect,' said Johnson from his home office in Tupelo, Miss. Not long ago, a Wikileaks document emerged showing a naked picture of Beck. Dude's hung like a pimple on a pimple. Then all of a sudden you start seeing the guy show up holding guns. Still, some have called the research misleading. Ron Schmeits, President of the NRA said that the problem was that the men in the research sample were not encouraged to buy enough guns. These small men will get larger if they own more guns, said Schmeits, handing out checks to Republican congressmen on the steps of the nation's capital. They need pistols and shotguns and guns that have guns attached to them and guns that shoot guns. That will fix them right up. But Dr. Svenenberg stood by his research. Zey are so wee, it'z almozt to make me to laugh, said Dr. Svenenberg. But no. I don't to laugh. Iz zad. Zo veery zad. http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2011/01/14/scientists-discover-that-no-ma\ tter-how-many-guns-you-own-your-penis-will-remain-small-and-insignifican\ t/ http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2011/01/14/scientists-discover-that-no-m\ atter-how-many-guns-you-own-your-penis-will-remain-small-and-insignifica\ nt/ http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2011/01/14/scientists-discover-that-no-ma\ tter-how-many-guns-you-own-your-penis-will-remain-small-and-insignifican\ t/ http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2011/01/14/scientists-discover-that-no-m\ atter-how-many-guns-you-own-your-penis-will-remain-small-and-insignifica\ nt/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints? Is Loughner known to have publicly threatened anybody's life? I don't recall seeing any reporting to that effect.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Why not go there directly? Why all this spiritual entertainment? Good question! Perhaps because the long term results of TM needed some spice. CC can be a rather bland dish, served plain. So something is needed to bring that gap alive and reconnect us to the rest of the world, hence the TMSP. Regarding the practice, as my responsibilities in the world grew, it became increasingly impractical to formally sandwich all of those sutras into normal life. Plus, as you say, seemingly unrelated experiences had my attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: One big benefit of the sidhis is that they do lead to refinement of the senses over time, yet this progressively finer and finer sight, smell, touch, hearing, and taste doesn't proceed with anyone in an objective text book fashion. I must admit that this is actually true. They used the phrase 'taste of siddhis' and that was true quite literaly. I must also say, that the flying, the hoping, always did the trick, even if meditation wasn't good, the flying always did it. But at a later time experiences opened up, seemingly unconnected to the sutras and all the rest of the program, of any TM experiences I knew until then, and it made the whole practice superfluous for me. You may attribute it to the program, but I couldn't attribute it to any of its specifics. But I think that long practice and introspection, plus and inquiring mind helped. My thinking though is: why not go there directly? Why all this spiritual entertainment? Because the experience of any sutra is one that fuses simple subjective inner awareness with outer experience, there is no way to predict how each of us will respond to these simple formulas. One of us might find immediate refinement in hearing; that space between thought and hearing, or another might gain refinement in the sense of sight. Someone else feels no sensation at all. There isn't any training manual for any of it, or what our personal experiences are going to be for any of it. For the sidhis, I see Maharishi producing a massive ad campaign to get people to practice the techniques he developed. Created almost an inner circus atmosphere. We each had our own version of the dream to nurture us and keep us going. I do recall someone equating TM with growth towards an ever awakened inner self, for lack of a better phrase, which MMY called CC, and then using the refining ability of the TMSP to enhance growth towards experiencing the finest and elementary elements of our world, or what MMY called GC. In retrospect, it has been a realistic curriculum. Hard work though. Maybe the TM and TMSP techniques are easy, but integrating all of what they uncover over time is like anything else, and takes plenty of elbow grease. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Good post, Buck. I had similar thoughts about this paper, but you expressed them better than I could have. The author does seem to realize that the TMO doesn't quite fit the model he describes, especially regarding the TM-Sidhis. I think you nailed the problem: he considers the program's goals supernatural, which is appropriate from his perspective, but as far as he's concerned that means wholly imaginary. And I would agree with that. We were quite surprised when the whole siddhi thing came up, with constant 'news' from various courses about the latest attainments. I didn't think that supernatural feats was really I was aspiring, but we were told, in golden brochures, that enlighetnment is not complete without attainment of the siddhis. I still remember the first brochure I saw, it was called 'enlightenment and the siddhis' (still written with two dd), and actually full of the most phantastic and inspiring experience reports. I don't think that MMY ever denied the siddhis. At the start, he said they were a distraction but later changed his tune. HOwever, he still insisted that they were a relative phenomenon compared to pure consciousness even though their practice would help stabilize pure consciousness in activity. Lawson
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson
Not sure if he did. However, I did hear a report today that when he walked into a bank, the tellers would feel for the alarm button. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 9:00:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints? Is Loughner known to have publicly threatened anybody's life? I don't recall seeing any reporting to that effect.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Lila
The Age of Enlightenment (Heaven on Earth); will be postponed to another era beyond ours. A pity, and tragically demonic. sparaig: MMY's always acknowledged that the TMO wouldn't be a permanent organization... Maybe so, but you have to realize that there really is no TMO, if by that phrase you mean a coordinated and professional organization running things. Some TMers seem to think that MUM is the center of the universe and that's where you can find the TMO. But, there's no one single authority anymore; there's no money; and only one or two initiations taking place in the U.S.A. each year anyway. Even within its lifetime, he said it would morph from one organizational strategy to the next. IE, business vs government vs education vs religion vs etc... There are a few wealthy TMers who make their own descisions about the businesses. Raja Srivastava calls all the shots in India. The decision to boost the price beyond the means of the common man was very wise, as I have said for many years. His purported reasoning has proven to be perfectly valid: wealthy people don't visit 99 cent stores and brag about it to their friends, and everyone pays attention to what wealthy people do and tries to copy them. When some people get things for little or no cost, they don't value them very much - they don't keep up with the practice or take it seriously. When you have to pay your own tuition, you take responsibility of your own education - added value. The David Lynch Foundation is doing quite well these days... Change begin within. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Not sure if he did. However, I did hear a report today that when he walked into a bank, the tellers would feel for the alarm button. Right. He made a lot of people uncomfortable, but that in and of itself isn't grounds for arrest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints? Is Loughner known to have publicly threatened anybody's life? I don't recall seeing any reporting to that effect.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Drum rudiments and siddhi_s?
On 01/16/2011 02:01 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: It used to be the 26 rudiments but they've added the extra ones. I passed the National Association of Rudimental Drummers test in high school. My teacher was the world's champion rudimental drummer at the time (he later went on to play for Sammy Davis and Merv Griffin orchestras). And where I live now drum corps is VERY big because the world champion Concord Blue Devils is the local corps. They field practice at the local community college just 4 miles away and I've been to a some of their shows. They have kids come from all over the world to play in that corps which has a jazz oriented repertoire. During the 1980s I used to teach high school drum lines. Some on the best military drummers might be in Switzerland, although I'm not a fan of that tight tuning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJiJ0blIQsfeature=related Good stuff. Basel is sort of the birthplace of rudimental drumming. Americans borrowed from it. And FYI it is VERY difficult to play that stuff WITHOUT have tightly tuned snare drums. In fact the schools where I taught they couldn't afford new snare drums and if we tightened the snares that much the shells would have cracked. So it was very difficult for the kids to learn the techniques. You'll note in the video how reinforced the snares are and that they have a sound projector on the bottom. They also display that they demonstrate playing both traditional and matched grip. They sure do a lot of backsticking and those stick flips and exchanges are very difficult to pull off. I did stick flips in my contest solos and they were scary to execute. Billy Cobham made a career out of his corps experience. However many corps drummers while excellent technicians were not necessarily good musicians so few went on professionally. I like more a Buddy Rich -like snare sound, even if visually this is nothing like the Swiss show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdqI-_8sDI (Drum solo starts at about 3:00) Buddy's equipment manager told me that Buddy didn't do anything special tuning wise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Maharishi had no pockets. Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi Joe: Calling Willy-Tex, Not all TMers believe in intelligent political systems. calling Willy-Tex! And anyway, the Maharishi has nothing to do with the practice of TM - you're just projecting again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson
I'm not sure one has to be arrested to have a court ordered psych evaluation. One possible problem was that his mother was a Pima county employee. The speculation being that perhaps she may have had some influence on how her son was treated by law enforcement in the county. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 9:14:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Not sure if he did. However, I did hear a report today that when he walked into a bank, the tellers would feel for the alarm button. Right. He made a lot of people uncomfortable, but that in and of itself isn't grounds for arrest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints? Is Loughner known to have publicly threatened anybody's life? I don't recall seeing any reporting to that effect.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
Skip your own individual enlightenment, and wait till day X when we get all enlightened... authfriend: For the record, I never encountered anything like this... Nor have I, but from the begginning I was told about the benefits of group practice being beneficial to the individual and the world at large. The idea that group spiritual practice could have an influence on our physical world dates back to before 4,000 years ago in India. Before that there were the shamans in Siberia. So, gathering together in groups is not a new cultural practice. According to the the Indian Press near the end of World War II, over 2000 Hindu sadhus and tens of thousands of their followers gathered outside New Delhi to pray for world peace, for ten days under the inspiration of the Jagadguru Sri Brahmananda Saraswati, the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. The yajna consisted of spoken and silent phrases from the Rig Veda, the Gayatri. It is estimated that 10,000,000 phrases were recited and according to the Forman and Gammon in their classic book entitled Truth is One: ...it was probably the greatest demonstration of mass praying in modern times and as many Hindus believe, helped defeat the Axis powers. Aerial view of Guru Dev's Mahayajna: http://www.rwilliams.us/images/yajna.jpg Source: 'Truth is One' The Story of the World's Great Living Religions in Picturs and Text By Henry James Forman and Roland Gammon Harper Row, 1954
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Levitation by Nityananda
Right, each of the five pranas is associated with one of the five elements and its particular sense. In my view, the pranas overlap down through the body, forming a kind of cracking tower of the elements and their senses, as sketched in the progression of the siddhis. Thus, in my view, udana (udaana) moves upward beginning at the pit of the throat, is centered in the third eye, and culminates in the crown. It is the prana of ominpresent vibrating space, akasha, and the sense of finest hearing. Prana moves inward at the pit of the throat and thence spreads both upward to the third eye and downward to the sacred heart (solar plexus). It is the prana of moving air and the sense of touch or finest feeling. Samana moves downward from the pit of the throat, and upward from the tan t'ien (midway between navel and sex centers), to merge and move outward at the sacred heart (solar plexus). It is the prana of heating (digestive) fire and finest sight. Vyana moves inward at the tan t'ien (midway between navel and sex centers) and thence spreads both upward to the sacred heart (solar plexus) and downward to the base. It is the prana of condensing water and finest taste. Apana moves downward from the tan t'ien (midway between navel and sex), is centered at the base, and culminates beneath the feet. It is the prana of elimination, crystallizing earth, and finest smell. *L*L*L* --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: What the heck is samana? Is that what TMers have heard as samyama? One of the five 'aana_s' as Rory explained: 1. pra + aana = praaNa (r n : N) 2. ut [up] + aana = udaana 3. sam + aana = samaana 4. apa [down] + aana = apaana 5. vi [allover] + aana = vyaana YS III 41: samaana-jayaaj jvalanam Taimni: By mastery over samaana blazing of gastric fire. LOL?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I'm not sure one has to be arrested to have a court ordered psych evaluation. The point is that there has to be some clear evidence that a person is a danger to him/herself or others for the authorities to get involved. Issuing a threat on someone's life is such evidence; merely looking creepy and making people uncomfortable isn't. One possible problem was that his mother was a Pima county employee. The speculation being that perhaps she may have had some influence on how her son was treated by law enforcement in the county. Aside from the disturbances he caused at Pima College, he didn't *do* anything sufficient for her to need to intervene. The campus police *did* go after him for the classroom and library disturbances, and ultimately the college expelled him and said he would have to have a mental health evaluation before he could be readmitted. And the campus cops came to the Loughner home to explain this to Jared and his parents. There's no indication I'm aware of that he ever did anything to warrant further action by law enforcement, such that there would have been any action for his mother to intervene *in*. So this is really pretty empty speculation, almost certainly motivated by a desire to smear Sheriff Dupnik in retaliation for his having dared to complain about violent rhetoric in Arizona. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 9:14:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lunacy in Tucson  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Not sure if he did. However, I did hear a report today that when he walked into a bank, the tellers would feel for the alarm button. Right. He made a lot of people uncomfortable, but that in and of itself isn't grounds for arrest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Folks, it just doesn't get any crazier than this. A fellow wounded a week ago in the Tucson incident and said Sarah Palin should be incarcerated for *inciting* violence was arrested and sent for a mental health evaluation for going to a Tea Party event and threatening the life of a speaker yesterday. Now, if this guy could have been sent for evaluation, why couldn't Sheriff *Sputnik* do the same to the real crazy guy after many more complaints? Is Loughner known to have publicly threatened anybody's life? I don't recall seeing any reporting to that effect.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drum rudiments and siddhi_s?
What a show! This stuff amazes me. Thanks for posting it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/16/2011 02:01 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: It used to be the 26 rudiments but they've added the extra ones. I passed the National Association of Rudimental Drummers test in high school. My teacher was the world's champion rudimental drummer at the time (he later went on to play for Sammy Davis and Merv Griffin orchestras). And where I live now drum corps is VERY big because the world champion Concord Blue Devils is the local corps. They field practice at the local community college just 4 miles away and I've been to a some of their shows. They have kids come from all over the world to play in that corps which has a jazz oriented repertoire. During the 1980s I used to teach high school drum lines. Some on the best military drummers might be in Switzerland, although I'm not a fan of that tight tuning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJiJ0blIQsfeature=related Good stuff. Basel is sort of the birthplace of rudimental drumming. Americans borrowed from it. And FYI it is VERY difficult to play that stuff WITHOUT have tightly tuned snare drums. In fact the schools where I taught they couldn't afford new snare drums and if we tightened the snares that much the shells would have cracked. So it was very difficult for the kids to learn the techniques. You'll note in the video how reinforced the snares are and that they have a sound projector on the bottom. They also display that they demonstrate playing both traditional and matched grip. They sure do a lot of backsticking and those stick flips and exchanges are very difficult to pull off. I did stick flips in my contest solos and they were scary to execute. Billy Cobham made a career out of his corps experience. However many corps drummers while excellent technicians were not necessarily good musicians so few went on professionally. I like more a Buddy Rich -like snare sound, even if visually this is nothing like the Swiss show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdqI-_8sDI (Drum solo starts at about 3:00) Buddy's equipment manager told me that Buddy didn't do anything special tuning wise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:05 AM, cardemaister wrote: To those who studied the great teachings of S[h]ankara [...] Buddhistic philosophies looked contemptible. [...] As S[h]ankara continued his merciless refutation of all hostile creeds and philosophies, the teachings of the Tatha[a]gata became lifeless... Ma[a]dhava Vidya[a]raNya, S[h]ankara-dig-vijaya. The traditional life of Shri[i] S[h]ankara[a]cha[a]rya. I tend to agree more with Ksemaraja or Abinavagupta, who say that neither Patanjali or Shankara teach a path to full enlightenment. Shankara in his later years abandoned Vedanta and embraced a form of tantric monism according to some. That's when he cognized his soundarya-lahari. Annuttara Hindu tantra is only a hair-breadth away from it's Buddhist counterparts if you know the practices. All the monist teachers I knew who taught the YS, skipped the siddhis. Siddhis are for circus magi and narcissists.
[FairfieldLife] Cosmic Perspective [1 Attachment]
*[Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] COSMIC PERSPECTIVE The Vedic tradition identifies the three greatest blessings. “These are three things which are rare indeed and due to the grace of God—namely a human birth, the longing for liberation, and the protecting care of a perfect master.” Shri Shankaracharya Vivekacūdāmni Verse 5 (Crest Jewel of Discrimination). To obtain a human birth is indeed rare. In this world only human beings are fit to be instructed in the nature of Truth. Vasistha’s Yoga Swami Venkatesananda p.179. The human body is a vehicle for the natural process of evolution. This vehicle contains the innate ability to be conscious and to know itself. One of the defining physical characteristics of a human being is the infinite computing capacity inherent in the brain. The human brain is composed of over 100 billion specialty cells known as neurons. Neurons act with each other through chemical transmitters which race over trillions of fine synaptic connections. There are over 500 trillion ever changing circuits in the brain. It is estimated that the number of combinations which are possible exceed the number of elementary particles in the universe. These interactions establish a structure capable of mirroring infinity. The whole brain functions only when abstract silence is directly experienced; that is Transcendental Consciousness. The human essence is the unchanging Atman which is indestructible. When enlightenment is obtained, pure consciousness or Being is reflected in all its fullness and the individuality becomes the cosmic eternal Brahmān. The realized man experiences this body as the source of infinite delight. “And since it transports him in this world in which he roams freely and delightfully, the body is regarded as a vehicle of wisdom. Since it is through the body that the wise man derives the different sense-experiences, and gains friendship and affection of others, to it is a source of gain. The enlightened man reigns happily in the city known as the body even as Indra, the king of heaven, dwells in his city.” Vasistha’s Yoga ibid p. 164. The “protecting care of a perfect master” is another blessing. In this generation, we have been fortunate to experience the practical wisdom of a great Seer. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi virtually single handedly has revived the ancient Vedic Tradition of India. The reawakening of global consciousness and Maharishi deep insights into the applied value of this knowledge are unparalleled. The great Seers of the past pointed to the need in time to incorporate the totality of knowledge into one comprehensive system. This was one of Maharishi’s tasks. Maharishi once stated that this knowledge would never be greater. This is due to the profundity of his consciousness and may also relate to the fact that the phenomenal creation has reached the limit of expansion. It is also interesting to note that the Vedic literature proclaims that the last stroke of knowledge is to locate the Veda in the human physiology. In addition to the three greatest blessings there is also the special nature of the present time. Sunrise on December 21st 2012 marks the end of the precessional cycle of 25,920 years. (See attached footnote for an explanation of the precessional cycle of the equinoxes.) This major event heralds the alignment between the December solstice sun, and the Galactic Center through the earth and on to the opposite point (anticenter) which is in the region of Pleiades. The effect of this direct line to the center of our galaxy should be viewed as a turning point in the evolution of human consciousness. This time frame happens to coincide with the phase transition from a descending cycle within Kali yuga to an ascending phase. The Vedic cosmic cycles of yuga’s span millions of years –a far longer period of time. (The Vedic conception of time is found in Maharishi’s Mahesh Yoga’s On The Bhagavad-Gita Chapter 4. Verse 3). Precessionals occur over and over again within these vast cycles of time. Each alignment directly connects the earth to the source or center (Brāmasthan) –of the galaxy. This is a rare event in human history and traditionally is viewed as opening the possibility of a sudden leap in consciousness. Kali Yuga is 432,000 years in duration. We are in Kali Yuga which began about 5,000 years ago. The age of Kali has many defects, but there is a major spiritual benefit. A person can acquire great spiritual merit without great strain. Kurma Purana (1.30.37) Tapas performed in one day in Kali Yuga are equal in merit to those practiced for a month in Dvpara Yuga or a year in Treta Yuga. Vayu Purana (1.30.37) This is likewise elaborated in the Padma Purana (1.41 91-92 and 7.26.40-44). Here it states that spiritual merit earned through ten years of spiritual practice in Sat yuga can be attained in Treta yuga in a year, or a month in Dvpara yuga, or a day and night in Kali yuga. Yet there is also another
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Swiss are going to crucify this guy!
Ah, see there is a God! Or there is karma. Figured the rich crooks were not going to get away with putting the world into poverty. This may be the payback! :-D On 01/16/2011 02:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: For hundreds of years the Swiss have made a fortune by enabling tax evaders worldwide to hide their money in Swiss banks. Keeping secrets is in a sense their bread and butter. So what are they going to do when one of their own blabs to Wikileaks to pull back the covers on the Swiss involvement in ripping off the governments of other countries, and by extension their people? My prediction is that the poor guy -- hero though he may be -- is looking at a long, long, long prison sentence. One thing the Swiss are not is forgiving; the fine in Geneva for placing your trash can out on the sidewalk for pickup one minute earlier than the prescribed time is 3000 Euros. Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow by the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history, Rudolf Elmer, two days before he goes on trial in his native Switzerland. The offshore bank account details of 2,000 high net worth individuals and corporations – detailing massive potential tax evasion – will be handed over to the WikiLeaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/wikileaks British and American individuals and companies are among the offshore clients whose details will be contained on CDs presented to WikiLeaks at the Frontline Club in London. Those involved include, Elmer tells the Observer, approximately 40 politicians. Elmer, who after his press conference will return to Switzerland from exile in Mauritius to face trial, is a former chief operating officer in the Cayman Islandshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/caymanislands and employee of the powerful Julius Baer bank, which accuses him of stealing the information. He is also – at a time when the activities of banks are a matter of public concern – one of a small band of employees and executives seeking to blow the whistle on what they see as unprofessional, immoral and even potentially criminal activity by powerful international financial institutions. Along with the City of London and Wall Street, Switzerland is a fortress of banking and financial services, but famously secretive and expert in the concealment of wealth from all over the world for tax evasion and other extra-legal purposes. Elmer says he is releasing the information in order to educate society. The list includes high net worth individuals, multinational conglomerates and financial institutions – hedge funds. They are said to be using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax. They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia – from all over. Clients include business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates – from both sides of the Atlantic. Elmer says: Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on. What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures, he told the Observer. I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering – although these cases involve tax evasion. Elmer was held in custody for 30 days in 2005, and is charged with breaking Swiss bank secrecy laws, forging documents and sending threatening messages to two officials at Julius Baer. Elmer says: I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also. Once you become part of senior management, he says, and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle – and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive. It should be no surprise that the main product is secrecy … Crimes are committed and lies spread in order to protect this secrecy. The names on the CDs will not be made public, just as a much shorter list of 15 clients that Elmer handed to WikiLeaks in 2008 has remained hitherto undisclosed by the organisation headed by Julian Assange, currently on bail over alleged sex offences in Sweden, and under investigation in the US for the dissemination of thousands of state department documents. Elmer has been hounded by the Swiss authorities and media since electing to become a
[FairfieldLife] With TM there's no need to suffer, says film director Martin Scorsese
With TM there's no need to suffer, says Hollywood film director Martin Scorsese. http://www.globalgoodnews.com/health-news-a.html?art=12948564553725902
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: I tend to agree more with Ksemaraja or Abinavagupta, who say that neither Patanjali or Shankara teach a path to full enlightenment. Shankara in his later years abandoned Vedanta and embraced a form of tantric monism according to some. That's when he cognized his soundarya-lahari. Annuttara Hindu tantra is only a hair-breadth away from it's Buddhist counterparts if you know the practices. All the monist teachers I knew who taught the YS, skipped the siddhis. Siddhis are for circus magi and narcissists. * * * That's interesting! In my view, it would seem to be the dualists who would most likely be demonizing our consciousness-waves into boogey-men like Satan, circus magi, narcississts, and fallen yogis. A nondualist would probably realize there's only Us here, only perfection, nothing to fear, not even the siddhis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
egg-zackerly. The satan and boogey men and siddhis are hidden parts of ourselves - The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR, (or Living Colour, who performed a great tune around it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I tend to agree more with Ksemaraja or Abinavagupta, who say that neither Patanjali or Shankara teach a path to full enlightenment. Shankara in his later years abandoned Vedanta and embraced a form of tantric monism according to some. That's when he cognized his soundarya-lahari. Annuttara Hindu tantra is only a hair-breadth away from it's Buddhist counterparts if you know the practices. All the monist teachers I knew who taught the YS, skipped the siddhis. Siddhis are for circus magi and narcissists. * * * That's interesting! In my view, it would seem to be the dualists who would most likely be demonizing our consciousness-waves into boogey-men like Satan, circus magi, narcississts, and fallen yogis. A nondualist would probably realize there's only Us here, only perfection, nothing to fear, not even the siddhis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: I was around when the first sutra/flying attempts were made. We were all sitting in chairs in a circle...there was no sitting on foam mats at that time. (This was in one of the hotels around Lake LucernI forget which now.) This would have been probably late 1975. [...] Tellingly, about 1/4 of the group thought it was hilarious. The rest were horrified and made it clear that this enlightenment business was NO laughing matter. I think that was probably the moment that the first real crack in my belief system started. When you get busted for eating ice cream (another story) and laughingwell, it's time to exit. It took a few more years but I finally did. Well, for most of the rest in the room, you were poking fun at a terribly important moment in their lives which almost certainly was going to cause ill-feeling and you must have realized this at some level, right? And you're still trying to pretend what you did was just a joke 35 years later. ... L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Lila
We agree to disagree on what constitutes everyone... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:02 PM, sparaig wrote: Well, MMY's always acknowledged that the TMO wouldn't be a permanent organization. Well, he got at least one thing right. The decision to boost the price beyond the means of the common man was very wise Indeed. It allowed him to save face and not have to acknowledge that nobody gave a crap any more or for that matter was willing to pay anything. as I have said for many years. I knew I had heard it somewhere. His purported reasoning has proven to be perfectly valid: wealthy people don't visit 99 cent stores and brag about it to their friends, and everyone pays attention to what wealthy people do and tries to copy them. Yes, which is why people are pouring into TM Centers and absolutely swamping them with requests for initiations. The David Lynch Foundation is doing quite well these days, or do you really think that Tucson is an aberration? Its not a terribly large city and yet there is at least one public school that offers it OK, just in this one post alone, spare, you've gone from everyone pays attention to what wealthy people do and tries to copy them which would indicate large amounts of people, to...there is at least one public school that offers it. That's quite a comedown. and the American INdian community around here appears to be interested as well. This sort of market penetration is not something that could be accomplished by an organization still charging only $35 per person and cashing in on latest fad status. Dream on. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Lila
We agree to disagree on what constitutes everyone... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:02 PM, sparaig wrote: Well, MMY's always acknowledged that the TMO wouldn't be a permanent organization. Well, he got at least one thing right. The decision to boost the price beyond the means of the common man was very wise Indeed. It allowed him to save face and not have to acknowledge that nobody gave a crap any more or for that matter was willing to pay anything. as I have said for many years. I knew I had heard it somewhere. His purported reasoning has proven to be perfectly valid: wealthy people don't visit 99 cent stores and brag about it to their friends, and everyone pays attention to what wealthy people do and tries to copy them. Yes, which is why people are pouring into TM Centers and absolutely swamping them with requests for initiations. The David Lynch Foundation is doing quite well these days, or do you really think that Tucson is an aberration? Its not a terribly large city and yet there is at least one public school that offers it OK, just in this one post alone, spare, you've gone from everyone pays attention to what wealthy people do and tries to copy them which would indicate large amounts of people, to...there is at least one public school that offers it. That's quite a comedown. and the American INdian community around here appears to be interested as well. This sort of market penetration is not something that could be accomplished by an organization still charging only $35 per person and cashing in on latest fad status. Dream on. Sal
[FairfieldLife] The Real Objective of the Siddhis
Although MMY may not have explained it in public, the siddhis are for attaining the highest level of consciousness. Specifically, the flying sutra is for attaining the lightest of all things, which is the Self. The experience that the supremely light dwells in me is laghima, the attainment of the most high. So, the physical levitation of yogis is only part of the final goal, which is enlightenment. Source: Yoga by Alain Danelou, page 160
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
There doesn't appear to be anyone in the TMO leadership who can re-assess what protect the purity of the teaching means, so they must default to a fundamentalist view wrt all the rules and regulations that were in place when Maharishi departed. Unfortunate. Well, actually it would be Bevan as Prime Minister or Tony as King, and the TM-Rajas. They do have the power and authority to do so. A practical problem here inside is that the doctrinal-ists elevate policy and guideline to purity of the teaching status and bind themselves to that. But your observation about the situation in Fairfield is really quite good. For 'boots on the ground' here, it will become of note if and when TM-Raja-ism actively 'goal-displaces' the dome numbers in Fairfield. On the one hand the goal was pretty clear, The immediate urgent priority for national invincibility and world peace is to join the Invincible America Course at MUM. Only 2000 Flyers, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world. That one is quite clear and unifying as such. -Buck in FF Very unfortunate, and very good analysis! One could redo, reformulate TM for the present time, but nobody seems to be able to do it. Nobody has the charisma and the guts. And thats clearly a missed opportunity. The 'purity of the teaching' argument will always be used for the status quo. Any religious movement in history could only survive, because it was able to adapt to the social situation of its times. The TM movement cannot survive without changing, But as it seems, as some of us believe, its death was intentional entirely, and planned by its leader. As somebody has pointed here out earlier, already in the 80's he wanted to make the movement look ridiculus and not be acceptable by any sane people. I simply think that Maharishi distrusted any of his potential successors, and just appointed the administrators of the dismantling process - the Rajas. So, don't blame them, they are just doing their job. Maharaj Adiraj Rajaram is just as inactive and invisible as anyone can be. No, the movement is just a one-generation trip. Maharishis 'for all generations to come' and his following grin should have alerted you! At present the movement is still there for those who are still in it, who still believe in it and see Maharishi as their master, and thats alright, and thats it. I think Maharishis attitude at the end must have been, like John Lennons, at the end of the Beatles: We have done it, give us a break, let the others be the clowns. Let there be the Nithyanandas, Sri Sri's, Kalkis etc. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: There is not much the Rajas can do ... No, there is lots the TM-Rajas could do to amend the situation with the gross dome numbers. It seems that currently they are rejecting 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 4 applicants to the dome. It's got to be incredibly frustrating to the Settles and that progressive element of the TM-movement whom would like for good reasons to see large numbers of people meditating in the domes. As John Hagelin has said: This is a critical time and a tremendous opportunity for all of us. We cannot afford to fall back from what we have accomplished so far. We need to sustain and build upon what we have created over these past four yearsand create true and lasting invincibility for our nation and peace for our world family. Raja John Hagelin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The truth. The sweet truth. Let a TM-Raja, with or without their crown and robe, come forward here and defend themselves. In public. Let's look at the numbers. Any of the numbers. Theirs is a piss-pour job facilitating this. There is a truth and reality to their record thus far. That record certainly could be different as they would choose. JGD, -Buck Buck, please enlighten me; what does the Rajas have to do with the Dome-numbers ? It's the american meditating community at large who are responsible for creating the ME for the benefit of themselves, no ? No, the TM-Rajas facilitate it. They administrate it. Thus far they effectively have obstructed the numbers by an administration of who they are in character. However, it is a good and very pertinent question. Quite a lot has been written here about the character of the TM-Raja-ism. Yet, looking ahead to 2011; Do the TM-Rajas sense the ready and
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:05 AM, cardemaister wrote: To those who studied the great teachings of S[h]ankara [...] Buddhistic philosophies looked contemptible. [...] As S[h]ankara continued his merciless refutation of all hostile creeds and philosophies, the teachings of the Tatha[a]gata became lifeless... Ma[a]dhava Vidya[a]raNya, S[h]ankara-dig-vijaya. The traditional life of Shri[i] S[h]ankara[a]cha[a]rya. I tend to agree more with Ksemaraja or Abinavagupta, who say that neither Patanjali or Shankara teach a path to full enlightenment. Shankara in his later years abandoned Vedanta and embraced a form of tantric monism according to some. That's when he cognized his soundarya-lahari. Annuttara Hindu tantra is only a hair-breadth away from it's Buddhist counterparts if you know the practices. All the monist teachers I knew who taught the YS, skipped the siddhis. Siddhis are for circus magi and narcissists. Isn't that convenient! as the Church Lady would say in her high pitched reproaching voice. The guy and book that says that siddhis come with full enlightenment are said to be wrong, that there is a higher enlightenment on their path. But, they still can't do the siddhis. And anyone who can is a circus clown. How convenient.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: True or false: perfection of sutras -- MERU degree
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:17 AM, blusc0ut no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, and it would be quite obviously hypocritical to talk of 'side effects' of the siddhis, and then test them. Help me out here. Are you telling me that this didn't happen? Candy, the one with the dripping golden light experience in the Enlightenment book (as CB of Texas USA), said that she taught 6 month courses. I never doubted what she said. Now was I being lied to, conned into taking CAC/CIC, or was she perhaps telling us something /she/ had heard and accepted it as fact? I never doubted what Candy told me up until I posted the question here.I had had enough fulfillment of the sidhis now and then over the years that I just thought in the atmosphere of the 6 month courses having fulfillment of the sense sidhas was entirely possible. I'd heard after I became a sidha that on the 6 month course people would pick a sutra and practice it for hours. Probably also not true. Oh well, for a mere $3,000 it was worth every penny to go on the majical mystery tour.
[FairfieldLife] Lysergic Advaita
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: That's interesting since everyone from the Patanjali tradition, the Kasmhir Shaivite tradition to the Holy Shankaracharya Order says essentially the opposite. Siddhi cultivation = no enlightenment. Sawry. You do get the drama of rising and falling, which some seem to find very exciting and can't stop talking about it. And it's endlessly amusing to watch as people rehash it over and over again. Maharishi Samsara. Sponsored by a celebrity near you. ;-) I guess if you want to enslave people, you wouldn't come right out and tell them now, would you? :-) Like Anna from the V always says We are of Peace. Always. Uh huh, sure you are Anna. Budhha Shakyamuni had it right. Siddhis are the most intense forms of suffering possible. A view, not THE view, This may be an excellent position for people and orgs that cannot do the siddhis. Ah, she is not so hot, and she's stuck up one might have said in high school about a popular girl -- as a defense mechanism countering the fact that said person could never in a million years get a date with such a girl. I believe the common term for it is sour grapes: I can't reach that lovely bunch of grapes, but they're most likely sour anyway. Of course, in Vaj's case, it's a matter of, MMY taught it, so it can't be any good. In fact, it must be deliberately evil. Oh, and because MMY relied on Shankara and Patanjali for his teaching on enlightenment, it must be that Shankara and Patanjali never taught enlightenment in the first place (per a subsequent Vaj post). That MMY, what a scoundrel!
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Real Objective of the Siddhis
On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: Although MMY may not have explained it in public, the siddhis are for attaining the highest level of consciousness. Yes, that's right, Ringling Bros. and Barnum Bailey Consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Two quotes from Helen Keller
I sense a holy passion pouring down from the springs of Infinity. . . . Bound to suns and planets by invisible cords, I feel the flame of eternity in my soul. Here, in the midst of the every-day air, I sense the rush of ethereal rains. I am conscious of the splendor that binds all things of earth to all things of heaven ‹ immured by silence and darkness, I possess the light which shall give me vision a thousandfold when death sets me free. There is in the blind as in the seeing an Absolute which gives truth to what we know to be true, order to what is orderly, beauty to the beautiful, touchableness to what is tangible. If this is granted, it follows that this Absolute is not imperfect, incomplete, partial. . . . Thus deafness and blindness do not exist in the immaterial mind, which is philosophically the real world, but are banished with the perishable material senses. Reality, of which visible things are the symbol, shines before my mind. While I walk about my chamber with unsteady steps, my spirit sweeps skyward on eagle wings and looks out with unquenchable vision upon the world of eternal beauty. Helen Keller 1880-1968
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Objective of the Siddhis
You probably mean that as an insult, but I love the circus!! I have been many, many times. The first time I went was in the 70's, Portland OR, when Gunter Gebel Williams was still doing his thing with leopards and lions and tigers and horses and elephants. There was a master. An absolutely dazzling spectacle for Children of all ages!. The circus rocks! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: Although MMY may not have explained it in public, the siddhis are for attaining the highest level of consciousness. Yes, that's right, Ringling Bros. and Barnum Bailey Consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Overcoming Depression with Meditation
Overcoming Depression with Meditation By Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya Depression is itself only a direct symptomatic manifestation of the radical secularization of human society. Previous to secular modernity, depression was a much less prevalent phenomenon. And when it was experienced, the reasons were more clearly environmental and causal than they are now. In the past, depression was directly associated with a specific event or occurrence in the person's life that directly caused the depression. Today, however, an increasing number of depressed persons are experiencing more generalized depression, a type of general existential angst, the exact cause of which it is difficult for them to pinpoint. Some of the leading causes of depression today include a sense of meaninglessness; consuming and generalized fear; spiritual crises, and the high degrees of stress and anxiety that has become accepted as normal in modern, radically secularized, everyday life. The ultimate cure for society's present crisis of depression and meaninglessness is to re-embrace a life of meaning, a life of Dharma VISIT HERE TO READ THE REST OF THIS INFORMATIVE ARTICLE: http://www.dharmacentral.com/forum/content.php?27-Depression Please forward this information to all sincere spiritual seekers. Feel free to publish the entire article on your website, blog, Facebook or social site. Aum Tat Sat
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
I guess it depends from which side you are looking at Maharishi. Some here prefer to always look at his backside. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: That's interesting since everyone from the Patanjali tradition, the Kasmhir Shaivite tradition to the Holy Shankaracharya Order says essentially the opposite. Siddhi cultivation = no enlightenment. Sawry. You do get the drama of rising and falling, which some seem to find very exciting and can't stop talking about it. And it's endlessly amusing to watch as people rehash it over and over again. Maharishi Samsara. Sponsored by a celebrity near you. ;-) I guess if you want to enslave people, you wouldn't come right out and tell them now, would you? :-) Like Anna from the V always says We are of Peace. Always. Uh huh, sure you are Anna. Budhha Shakyamuni had it right. Siddhis are the most intense forms of suffering possible. A view, not THE view, This may be an excellent position for people and orgs that cannot do the siddhis. Ah, she is not so hot, and she's stuck up one might have said in high school about a popular girl -- as a defense mechanism countering the fact that said person could never in a million years get a date with such a girl. I believe the common term for it is sour grapes: I can't reach that lovely bunch of grapes, but they're most likely sour anyway. Of course, in Vaj's case, it's a matter of, MMY taught it, so it can't be any good. In fact, it must be deliberately evil. Oh, and because MMY relied on Shankara and Patanjali for his teaching on enlightenment, it must be that Shankara and Patanjali never taught enlightenment in the first place (per a subsequent Vaj post). That MMY, what a scoundrel!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Two quotes from Helen Keller
On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I sense a holy passion pouring down from the springs of Infinity. . . . Bound to suns and planets by invisible cords, I feel the flame of eternity in my soul. Here, in the midst of the every-day air, I sense the rush of ethereal rains. I am conscious of the splendor that binds all things of earth to all things of heaven ‹ immured by silence and darkness, I possess the light which shall give me vision a thousandfold when death sets me free. There is in the blind as in the seeing an Absolute which gives truth to what we know to be true, order to what is orderly, beauty to the beautiful, touchableness to what is tangible. If this is granted, it follows that this Absolute is not imperfect, incomplete, partial. . . . Thus deafness and blindness do not exist in the immaterial mind, which is philosophically the real world, but are banished with the perishable material senses. Reality, of which visible things are the symbol, shines before my mind. While I walk about my chamber with unsteady steps, my spirit sweeps skyward on eagle wings and looks out with unquenchable vision upon the world of eternal beauty. Helen Keller 1880-1968 Supposedly Helen Keller really disliked her unsought-for role as Patron Saint of the Blind, and wanted much more to be known for her radical Socialist views. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump
http://batgap.com/scott-kiloby/ Scott Kiloby - Through the dogged efforts of my high school buddy, lifelong friend, and post-production genius http://www.ralphpreston.com/ Ralph Preston, this video is finally online. Scott is a well-known non-duality teacher. http://batgap.com/michael-fischman/ Michael Fischman -Michael is a founding member and current president of the U.S. Art of Living Foundation, which represents the teaching of Indian guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. http://batgap.com/burt-harding/ Burt Harding - Burt offers a radical invitation to recognize the truth of our being as already whole and fulfilled. His very full and loving heart comes through nicely in this interview. Genpo Roshi - Genpo is a long-time Zen practitioner, now Master, who has developed the Big Mind Process, through which novice participants without any formal meditation training can have profound spiritual experiences with persistent enhancement of well-being Genpo's interview will be online by Monday morning. Thanks, Rick http://batgap.com YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/buddhaatthegaspump Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Buddha-at-the-Gas-Pump/245860772078 Podcast http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id359034195 Subscription address list-subscr...@batgap.com Unsubscription addresslist-unsubscr...@batgap.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Objective of the Siddhis
I can't speak for anyone else of course, but it's been my experience that our separate Ego deals mainly in put-downs and insults, to prop itself up and mask its own core pain, while our simple presence annihilates our separateness into appreciation of the divine in everything that IS :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: You probably mean that as an insult, but I love the circus!! I have been many, many times. The first time I went was in the 70's, Portland OR, when Gunter Gebel Williams was still doing his thing with leopards and lions and tigers and horses and elephants. There was a master. An absolutely dazzling spectacle for Children of all ages!. The circus rocks! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: Although MMY may not have explained it in public, the siddhis are for attaining the highest level of consciousness. Yes, that's right, Ringling Bros. and Barnum Bailey Consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Diligent practice of Transcendental Meditation?
Wikipedia quotes someone quoting someone quoting Maharishi as saying that one must be diligent in one's practice of TM. 1) did anyone ever hear MMY use the word diligent in the context of TM practice? 2) even if he did, do you ever practice TM diligently? 3) why or why not? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two quotes from Helen Keller
I posted this awhile back...it's a clip from a 1930 newsreel of Keller and Annie Sullivan, demonstrating how Sullivan had taught Keller to speak. It's just incredibly charming, especially at the very end. It shows her sense of humor and her wonderful spirit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv1uLfF35Uw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: I sense a holy passion pouring down from the springs of Infinity. . . . Bound to suns and planets by invisible cords, I feel the flame of eternity in my soul. Here, in the midst of the every-day air, I sense the rush of ethereal rains. I am conscious of the splendor that binds all things of earth to all things of heaven â¹ immured by silence and darkness, I possess the light which shall give me vision a thousandfold when death sets me free. There is in the blind as in the seeing an Absolute which gives truth to what we know to be true, order to what is orderly, beauty to the beautiful, touchableness to what is tangible. If this is granted, it follows that this Absolute is not imperfect, incomplete, partial. . . . Thus deafness and blindness do not exist in the immaterial mind, which is philosophically the real world, but are banished with the perishable material senses. Reality, of which visible things are the symbol, shines before my mind. While I walk about my chamber with unsteady steps, my spirit sweeps skyward on eagle wings and looks out with unquenchable vision upon the world of eternal beauty. Helen Keller 1880-1968
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: I was around when the first sutra/flying attempts were made. We were all sitting in chairs in a circle... there was no sitting on foam mats at that time. (This was in one of the hotels around Lake LucernI forget which now.) This would have been probably late 1975. [...] Tellingly, about 1/4 of the group thought it was hilarious. The rest were horrified and made it clear that this enlightenment business was NO laughing matter. I think that was probably the moment that the first real crack in my belief system started. When you get busted for eating ice cream (another story) and laughingwell, it's time to exit. It took a few more years but I finally did. Well, for most of the rest in the room, you were poking fun at a terribly important moment in their lives which almost certainly was going to cause ill-feeling and you must have realized this at some level, right? And you're still trying to pretend what you did was just a joke 35 years later. Gawd. The humorlessness of TMers blows my mind. Not to mention the tendency to see nefarious intent in pretty much everything. It was just a joke. Then and now. Sane people are laughing. If you're not, that says something about YOU, not the jokester.
