[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-18 Thread RoryGoff
Yes. I have no power, no shakti, whatsoever, but my particle-Is or devatas 
believe in me utterly, and in that faith they manifest whatever I tell or give 
them. Having no siddhis, I bestow all siddhis on them, and enjoy all things 
through them. 

They are my Shakti, and I am their Shiva :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I have no way of knowing, though perhaps Maharishi set this particular, and 
 practically impossible definition of UC to ensure that all of us understood 
 enlightenment or realization to be an ever expanding process, once we 
 experience our initial Awakening. 
 
 Seems to me that particular sidhis go with particular nervous systems, much 
 as each of us becomes an engineer or doctor or circus clown. I haven't looked 
 for success with them, though my ability for subtle sight continues to grow, 
 as does my ability for healing through visualization of body energy. Nothing 
 I cultivate. Like I said it just happens. I wouldn't be at all surprised if 
 others found that a particular sidhi jumped out at them so to speak. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Yo Lawson I wouldn't take MMY's words seriously. You may have some
  beliefs regarding what UC and full liberation is and I don't agree with
  it. TM is clearly a path of yoga with milestones, description and
  categories of enlightenment. The fact that I haven't heard one TM'er
  experience match all these shows that perhaps there's another reason why
  MMY would have gone to so much trouble to state all these. IMO he might
  have prescribed these understanding the Rajasic, goal oriented nature of
  the human mind. Other than a Jim here or a Rory there the literal
  interpretation of this has resulted in widespread prevalence of what I
  call pimps(intellectuals) among TM'ers totally fascinated with the whore
  (intellect).
  I don't think self-knowledge has anything to do with Siddhis, sure there
  seem to be varying degrees of self-knowledge based upon the external
  manifestation of it. According to their predominant samkaras - some
  become Gurus, some debate with others, a lot just continue in their
  respective professions, some just fall out of the society and wander
  enjoying their bliss. In either case I think I agree that full
  liberation would not be possible until you drop the physical body.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
  
   Yo, William, don't take them too seriously. According to MMY, if you
  can't perform any and all of the sidhis (e.g. Yogic Flying) then you're
  not truly in Unity Consciousness.
  
   Now, for those who like to play semantic games with the above, I'll
  take it back a step: if, immediately prior to Full Liberation, you don't
  find yourself able to perform all the Sidhis to perfection during sutra
  practice during your participation in the TM/TM-SIdhis program, then you
  are probably not fully enlightened, no matter what your perceptions
  suggest.
  
   MMY himself once hinted that that was one of the reasons why he
  realized the world wasn't quite how it should be when he was off on his
  own, meditating after his guru dev died: he wasn't doing/experiencing
  some of the stuff that was predicted for someone in his apparent state
  of consciousness and finally concluded that the current state of the
  world's consciousness wouldn't support full enlightenment, and
  eventually set out to remedy the situation.
  
   L.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-18 Thread raunchydog
Lawson, thank you for the excellent collection of links on TM research.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@ wrote:
 
  L., forgive me, but I went though my old posts, which had several from you 
  and none had any links for further research. Did I miss one of them? 
  Cheers
  Bill
 
 Re: The Soul is extracted and judged by weight
 
 An email I fired off recently might be of interest to you:
 
 Dear Professor Brown,
 
 I just finished reading your article, Doubt as Methodology and Object in the
 Phenomenology of Religion, found in M/C Journal
 http://www.journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/article/viewArticle/\
 334 ...
 
 I'd like to present the TM theoretical take of the Vedic philosophy and ask
 that you reconsider calling TM a religion, per se:
 
 Rather than theories or beliefs about God, the Universe and Everything that 
 are
 strictly the product of the specific culture that they are found in, TM theory
 asserts that these are cultural interpretations of states of consciousness 
 that
 are natural to humans, regardless of culture. TM theory further asserts that 
 TM
 is a technique (in the same sense that the Way that cannot be spoken is a
 technique) that increases the probability that practitioners will enter into 
 the
 state of consciousness called turya -pure consciousness- in the 
 Upanishads.
 The theory further asserts that long-term practice of TM, alternated with 
 normal
 activity, leads to the situation called turyatita (quality of turya) where
 turya is omni-present, in some sense, in the individual.
 
 This theory is nothing new. You can find it, with minor variations, in various
 places. E.G. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turiya
 
 
 What IS unique to TM theory, however, are the assertions that:
 
 1) turya is a physiological state of the brain in the Western scientific 
 sense,
 that can be measured using the tools of Western science;
 2) that turyatita is likewise a measurable state;
 3) that turya is the state of least stress in a resting nervous system;
 4) the process of TM is merely a resting state of the nervous system that
 repairs stress (note that obvious episodes of turya are NOT required for this
 resting state to be effective --one can become fully enlightened according 
 to
 TM theory, without ever having a clear experience of turya during meditation, 
 at
 least prior to full enlightenment);
 4) turyatita is merely a state in mature adults whose nervous systems are
 sufficiently strong and mature due to lack of physiological stress that turya 
 is
 evident, even during waking, dreaming and sleeping.
 
 this leads to the logical conclusion that turyatita is NOT some esoteric 
 state,
 and that the physiological signature of turya during meditation should more
 likely appear, not only in long-term practitioners of TM contrasted with
 non-meditating or short-term meditating controls, but also in non-meditators
 whose success in life suggests that their nervous systems are very efficient,
 e.g.: world champion athletes (as compared to non-champion professionals in 
 the
 same sport), professional classical musicians (as compared to amateur 
 classical
 musicians) and high-functioning business managers as compared to their less
 successful counterparts.
 
 Research on the physiological correlates of turya found during TM practice:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911
 Breath suspension during the transcendental meditation technique.
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10512549
 Pure consciousness: distinct phenomenological and physiological correlates of
 consciousness itself.
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009807
 Autonomic patterns during respiratory suspensions: possible markers of
 Transcendental Consciousness.
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10487785
 Autonomic and EEG patterns during eyes-closed rest and transcendental 
 meditation
 (TM) practice: the basis for a neural model of TM practice.
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19862565
 A self-referential default brain state: patterns of coherence, power, and
 eLORETA sources during eyes-closed rest and Transcendental Meditation 
 practice.
 
 Research on the physiological correlates of turyatita in long-term TM
 meditators:
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12406612
 Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation 
 characterize
 the integration of transcendental and waking states.
 
 http://www.tm.org/american-psychological-association
 Abstract for the 2007 Conference of the American Psychological Association
 Brain Integration Scale: Corroborating Language-based 
Instruments of
 Post-conventional Development
 
 Research on the physiological correlates of turyatita in non-meditators:
 
 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1600-0838.2009.01007.x/full
 Higher psycho-physiological refinement in world-class Norwegian athletes: 
 brain
 measures 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@
 wrote:
 
  What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony 
  are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with 
  subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is 
  not a matter of you doing my homework asking you (Judy) to 
  write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate that with 
  such a serious threat to millions neither you nor most people 
  would be willing to approach the holocaust in that manner.
 
 I think what you are saying is that you had a full blown hissy fit.

Exactly. With a drama queen tiara on top.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-18 Thread emptybill

Bill,



Contrary to what you might read, Shakti does not mean
energy, as in electricity, but rather power.

Shakti (power) carries none of our modern connotations of a strictly
mechanistic force but rather points to what Shakta-s (shakti initiates)
see as the intelligence(s) that actualize the cosmos and enact its
unmanifest design.

You seem to recognize that Shaktivada (shakti-ism) is a doctrine (-vada)
that is quite separate from Advaita. It is a doctrine asserting that
there is a universal power that manifests the cosmos and that it's
actualizations are various all-constituting intelligences. Since these
are intelligences, rather than insentient material forces, the further
insight is that they are accessible to other intelligences (like us) and
that there is a methodology for doing just this. That methodology is
called Tantra and includes not only formulae for contacting these
intelligences but also specific etiquettes for creating, maintaining and
enhancing this contact. These intelligences are deva-s/devi-s … the
numinous presences that constitute and animate our body, along with our
sense powers, mental operations and the functions of consciousness
(chitta).

All of these internal deva-s/devi-s are considered micro-processes of
macro-intelligences that are massively awake and actively cognizant.
They are the internal-external values that order, organize and
interconnect the various subjective/objective strata of the universe.
This, however, does not include Awareness (chit) which is a reality
eulogized as Shiva, the auspicious One, the Presence-Awareness-Felicity
that is the essence of all true identity.

Sounds abstract but that's the cliff notes version for dummies like
me. You may find it a mere iteration of what you already know but it
never hurts of hear it again.



Now I think I'll go have a beer.
……



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@...
wrote:



 Richard and Emptybill: Given my rudimentary knowledge at this point I
am wondering if the both of you can clarify something. I went and looked
up on Wikipedia about Sri Vidya. I thought that the basic shakti
doctrine was as follows: Shiva is the static consciousness that pervades
all things, while shakti represents (envisioned in feminine form) the
dynamic form of consciousness. In essence, they have divided up the
notion of Brahman. One is pure consciousness, static in existence, while
the other is pure consciousness in its changeable phenomenal form? I
thought all these divine goddesses were simply a manifestation of
shakti. Is that not correct?
 Cheers
 Bill Â

 From: richardjwilliamstexas willytex@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


 Â


 emptybill:
  All modern Western scholars of Shankara or Advaita
  firmly reject the claim that Adi-Shankara was the
  author of either Ananda-Larari or Saundarya-Lahari.
 
 Maybe so, but as TMers we are not concerned with what
 most Western scholars think about Shankara.

 It is a fact that all the Dasanami Sannyasins worship
 the Sri Vidya and accept the Adi Shankara as the
 author of the Saundarylahri. That's why at all the
 Ammnya Mathas founded by Shankara you will find the
 Sri Chakra ensconced on the mandir.

 Our Guru Dev was a Sri Vidya adherent and his master,
 Swami Krishnaanada was a Sri Vidya practitioner. So,
 we TMers have a direct connection to the Sringeri
 Matha, through Brahmananda Saraswati.

 Bija 'mantras', by definition, have no semantic
 meaning - that's why they're called 'mantras'
 instead of being called 'words'. If the bijas were
 Sanskrit words, there would be no need for a
 definition of them, since their meaning would be
 obvious to anyone who could read a Sanskrit
 lexicon.

 So, let's review:

 In basic TM you get the single seed sound (bija)
 and later the fertilizer; and you get the simple
 set of instructions for the correct angle to dive.

 So, it has now been established that at least two
 of the most sacred bija-mantras, out of the fifteen,
 contained in the Saundaryalahari, are in fact, TM
 bija-mantras.

 Read more:

 Subject: Guru Dev and Mantrayana
 Author: Willytex
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: December 17, 2003
 http://tinyurl.com/ykp6rhs

 On the origin of the TM bija mantras:

 Bija mantras issued by TM are ''Sri Vidya'' bija
 mantras. To be fair, I won't go into what they are,
 but if one listens to all TM mantras, except for
 2, they are 2 or 3 syllable, and this is a very
 important component of the technique...

 Subject: Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya
 Author: Billy Smith
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: April 22, 2003
 http://tinyurl.com/ye8my2

 You are getting warmer when it comes to
 understanding TM's origins with your posts regarding
 the Shankaracharya tradition and its practice of
 Srividya...

 Subject: Re: TM: Siva Sutra
 Author: James Duffy
 

[FairfieldLife] Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy

2011-07-18 Thread John
This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's technology for keeping 
time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


Bhairitu:
 I see a guillotine in your future!
 
You're not even a bystander at a Tea Party
Rally, much less the leader of a revolution.

You probably don't even have weapon in yer
house. You'd be one of the last people I'd
want to rely on to bring down big government.

Liberals like to talk a lot, but when it 
comes to taking action - when was the last
time you heard from the 'anti-war' movement?

According to what I've read, communism feels 
the need to control someone, because they 
have legally built up wealth, or want to, 
through their own endeavours (and want to 
keep it). 

That wealth makes that person deserving of 
being plundered? You're not even making any 
sense! 

Workers of the world unite! is OK, but for 
what? 

The unspoken goal is to plunder those who 
have. It is not a call for brotherly love. It 
is a mobilisation call for a lynch mob.



[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's 
 technology for keeping time.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related

I rarely look at these things, because I'm just not on
The ancients knew more than we do bus, and I didn't
watch this clip, either. 

However, it being posted reminded me of a fascinating
film that used to be hard to find (you could only get
it on DVD from the filmmakers or at the gift shop at
Chaco Canyon itself), but which, after a quick search,
I discover is now on YouTube. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRQfPQCic0

Narrated by and partially funded by Robert Redford, 
this is a great film about one of the most spectacular
historical sites on the planet, and certainly the most
spectacular in North America, Chaco Canyon. I've been
there many times. There are buildings there larger 
than the Colusseum in Rome, built in an ares in which
few of the building materials could be found. The 
Anasazi ruled an area that encompassed 95,000 square
miles in the American Southwest. They were the Romans
of the North American continent. And then one day 
(literally, in a historical sense), they just went
away. Where, how, and why are still a mystery.

In the film, they use computer modeling to show that
the Anasazi were so hip to the movement of the stars
and planets that the whole complex can be legitimately
be seen as an enormous computer, just as Stonehenge can.
That said, the Anasazi were kinda on the dark side; 
modern-day Peublo Indians won't even go there, and
consider their ancestors the Anasazi almost black
magicians. I certainly felt some darker vibes in some
of the sites there at Chaco, but in others what I felt
while meditating there was shiny and high, and to me
supports the film's theory that this was a place not
for dwelling in full-time, but a place of pilgrimage
to which tens of thousands of Anasazi would travel
at times of power (Solstices, Equinoxes, eclipses,
etc.) to revere power. 

Enjoy. If you liked the clip about the Mayans, you'll
like this one about their more Northern counterparts.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah I found out that the options and upgrades, like the stores you mentioned, 
are ONLY AVAILABLE with the *Brahman* Certification - an extra ten thousand 
bucks!!! Jeezus H. Christ.

Anyway, they claim the ordinary Enlightenment Certificate will still count for 
discounts on automotive purchases (like those bad-ass chrome rims I saw at Pep 
Boys), and timeshare vacations. I'm feeling skeptical though, and will be 
examining the fine print for a refund if I decide to return to Ignorance.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Jim - OMG I'm shocked, what a bunch of crooks at HS of E, they had
 promised me Haagen Dazs and that I could shop at Lucky's, Raley's and
 Nob Hill Foods as well. What a rip off, it's too late to turn back now,
 I have worked my butt of for this Certificate - I'm glad it's impressive
 looking - at least I can show-off with others.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
 wrote:
 
  Ravi, I am surprised that you have revealed here on FFL the second,
 hidden way to enlightenment: cash. I found out too late in the game that
 an end run, greasing the right palms at the aforementioned HS of E with
 plenty of moolah would've resulted in my certified enlightenment being
 granted 40% earlier! Who knew??
 
  PS My Certificate Of Enlightenment arrived two days ago - really
 impressive looking. I've already used it in lieu of coupons at the
 Safeway and was able to get a half gallon of rocky road ice cream free!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
   
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@
 wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
   It's only a matter of time before Tom Pall creates a couple
 of
   well
   disguised profiles which get approved and he starts posting
 TM
 copyrighted
   materials to take FFL down.
  
  
  Looks like your enlightened shtick has a couple holes in it,
 Ravi.
   What
  happened to the sweetness and light, I love everything and
   everybody,
  everyone and everything is my teacher?   One could conclude
 that
   you're a
  fraud.  Assuming one didn't decide you were ages ago.
 

 Sorry I was just kidding Tom, I love ya 'bro.


Good to hear that it was just a prolonged joke.  Never enlightened
   after
all, eh?  Just exercising your sense of humor?   Welcome back to
   planet
Earth, Ravi.   Now why don't you and your fellow pretenders go eat
   shit and
die?
   
  
   Tom, the prolonged joke's yours - the Himalayan Society of
 Enlightened
   is not quite thrilled with your response, they are just waiting for
 you
   to sign off so they can certify me as enlightened. I just thought
 you
   were sending all emails to your junk folder and made a mistake.
 C'mon
   man please forgive me, and get back to them quickly - please don't
 let
   me suffer like this. In return for your endorsement, they are
 willing to
   put you on a fast track to being certified as enlightened as well.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread jpgillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote:

 
 making light or trivializing a potential genocide is what I object to.

Do not read this article, then:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nigeria-chosen-to-host-2008-genocides,1261/

Nigeria Chosen To Host 2008 Genocides
DECEMBER 15, 2004 | ISSUE 40•50

ABUJA, NIGERIA—At a celebratory press conference Monday, President Olusegun 
Obasanjo announced that Nigeria's troubled but oil-rich city of Warri has been 
chosen to host the 2008 Genocides.

Nigeria is excited for this chance to follow in the footsteps of Somalia, 
Rwanda, and Sudan, Obasanjo said. Much work remains to be done, but all of 
the building blocks are in place. Nigeria has many contentious ethnic groups, a 
volatile economy, and a dependence on food imports. We are well on our way to 
making 2008 a genocidal year to remember in Nigeria!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher, accused of sexism, rips Palin, Bachman, and Jesus

2011-07-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
God's big book of bad ideas!  Damn, I wish I had thought of that descriptive 
phrase for the Bible.  Maybe if I just use it about 5000 times I can eventually 
claim ownership!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 And well. A great rant. I particularly liked, If you 
 want to know where most of this nation's sexism is 
 coming from, you don't have to look any further than
 the one person who makes the cover of Newsweek more
 often than Sarah Palin -- Jesus. 
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sarah-palin_n_900994.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher, accused of sexism, rips Palin, Bachman, and Jesus

2011-07-18 Thread wayback71


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  And well. A great rant. I particularly liked, If you 
  want to know where most of this nation's sexism is 
  coming from, you don't have to look any further than
  the one person who makes the cover of Newsweek more
  often than Sarah Palin -- Jesus. 
  

Clever rant - reminds me I need to watch him more often.  He nails ideas so 
beautifully.

With this piece he is off a bit in terms of accuracy.  My understanding is that 
Jesus was rather profeminist and treated women better than was the custom in 
those days. His New Testament teachings were more about love and kindness to 
all.  It is the Old Testament (God) that has all the commandments and many 
rules as per orthodox  Judaism, not Jesus.
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sarah-palin_n_900994.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-18 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8599547/UFOs-spotted-over-London.html


Sorry, that's obviously a hoax... :]



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher, accused of sexism, rips Palin, Bachman, and Jesus

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 God's big book of bad ideas!  Damn, I wish I had thought 
 of that descriptive phrase for the Bible.  Maybe if I just 
 use it about 5000 times I can eventually claim ownership!

Wait'll you see the rap I just came up with in
a cafe this afternoon about whether God wears
briefs or boxers. :-)

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  And well. A great rant. I particularly liked, If you 
  want to know where most of this nation's sexism is 
  coming from, you don't have to look any further than
  the one person who makes the cover of Newsweek more
  often than Sarah Palin -- Jesus. 
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sarah-palin_n_900994.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Googling God

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
Following up on my rap about Mystery, it occurs to
me that a lot of my issue with those who seek to
understand life's Mystery rather than just enjoy-
ing it as the E-ticket ride it is has to do with
the search for seeming facts.

It's not just that many spiritual seekers mistake
what they were told by some spiritual authority for
facts, it's that they've IMO often become habituated
to searching for them. It's like their minds have
become a kind of internal Internet search engine.
A question arises, and they Google what they've
been told by various spiritual authorities, either
in person or on videotape or in some scripture.
And then having found what that authority said (it 
popped up in the first page of Google results, the 
only page that 80% of users ever read links from), 
they close their browsers and stop searching.

Besides his almost-unique ability to have been a 
major film critic for several decades without losing
his ability to sit down in a theater, open his bag
of popcorn and suspend disbelief anew, immersed in a 
glorious LOVE of movies, one of the things I've
always loved Roger Ebert for is a quote he threw
into one of his reviews. He was talking about the
IMDB, and how he can't imagine how he did his job
without it, and then inserted, I love the Internet;
it contains an almost infinite amount of information. 
And some of it is even true.

I don't tend to Google the wealth of Other People's
Opinions for the answers to the questions that the
spiritual path opens before me. I may reference 
these other opinions, but in the end I'm more in 
search of my own opinion. That opinion may be as
constantly in flux as a flamewar-beset Wikipedia
page, but that to me is more valuable than the
contents of the page presenting themselves as fact.
As mentioned in the thread about cognitive dissonance,
I get off more on the tantra of the balls of seeming 
facts being constantly up in the air in a kind of 
eternal juggling act than I do in the sutra of them 
remaining in one place, as if they were nestled 
comfortably in God's ball sack, and supported by 
the snug fit of His Calvins in perpetuity. 

Based on the things He has written in the scriptures
He's supposed to have dictated, or that those He has
on speed dial on his iPhone have said, God is SO a
briefs kinda guy. He speaks in pronouncements and
declarations, as if His word were synonymous with
fact. Snug. Balls firmly in place, eternally.

My kinda God, were I to imagine one, would be SO 
much more a boxers kinda guy. I can imagine Him 
saying, in that big, booming Charleton Heston voice 
of His, Swing free, boys. Even better, under His 
flowing robes my kinda God would go commando.




[FairfieldLife] Mystery and its possible opposite, Understanding

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
Something said in the Mystery of Chaco Canyon video
I posted a link to earlier got me thinking about the
mysterious topic of Mystery. In the film Robert 
Redford was speaking eloquently about the Anasazi
gazing up into the sky and perceiving its predictable
patterns -- patterns recognized only after 19 gener-
ations of careful observation, but patterns nonetheless
-- as being to some extent the opposite of the chaos
and unpredictability they saw in the world around them. 
It would have been natural for people in that time to 
look to the heavens and try to extrapolate from its 
patterns similar patterns that would work for us 
humans down on earth. They longed for Understanding.

I'm not as big a fan as some people of Understanding.
I don't understand shit about the universe and How
It All Works. But I'm a big fanboy of its Mystery.

One of the things that I've noticed in my Road Trips
around the spiritual marketplace is that quite a few
of the people who feel -- or say -- that they under-
stand things coincidentally seem to me to be the
same ones who have the least feeling for Mystery. It's
as if the folks who were presented with what for them
intellectually constituted a believable answer we have 
already prepared or who had their own cognitions 
based on a powerful subjective experience *stopped 
wondering* about the things they felt they understood,
and to some extent closed themselves off to further
Wonder. The greater the sense of I understand the
Mystery, the lesser the sense of Wonder, and the
lesser a corresponding openness to Mystery.

I get the desire to feel as if one had figured things
out. But personally I get off more on the Go Figuring.
I was amused when I moved to France that one of my
favorite phrases in English (Go figure) had its
counterpart in French (Va savoir). Even though 
literally (Go forth to know) it's more explicit 
in French about seeking some kind of goal, the more
common meaning when it's spoken in conversation is
more like the Brooklynese Go figure. It's an expres-
sion of the idea that the goal may be unattainable,
and that the going is the important thing, not 
the figuring. 

That kinda captures my credo as well. Even though I
am often accused of being a Buddhist, I am probably
more of a Taoist. The quote I used for the frontis-
piece of the book I called Road Trip Mind was from 
Lao-tzu: A good traveler has no fixed plans, and 
is not intent upon arriving.

I hope to never understand the universe and How 
It All Works. Where's the fun in that? I hope to
keep wandering and wondering till my last day on
this rock, and after that to keep doing the same
thing in future incarnations, if they present 
themselves. In my experience those I've met who
seemed most convinced that they understood things
also seemed to be the most locked into a kind of
intellectual (and often spiritual) stasis. They
didn't go much of anywhere new, and just kept
repeating the things they knew over and over.

Boring. My path has no destination, and hopefully
will never have an end. The saddest thing I can
imagine is the spiritual path having an end. And
yet others not only embrace this idea, they seek
it fervently. It's just another instance of 
predilection, I guess. 

For them, the phrase Go figure has its emphasis
on the second word. For me, the emphasis is very
much on the first. Although I may ponder many sub-
jects on this forum in a seeming attempt to figure
them out, for me the wonder is to be found in the
continual going, not in the figuring. If what
Maharishi said about the natural tendency of the
mind is true, my personal natural tendency is in
the direction of Mystery and Wonder. If there was
a branch of the path that veered off to the right
and had a signpost there at the crossroads saying 
This Way To Understanding, I missed it. And I 
don't miss having missed it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


johnlasher:
 Hissy plus plus still having it...
 
Maybe getting out and voting would be a
better idea, instead of posting satire
on a newsgroup forum, and trying to pick
a fight with Judy. If you're new to this
group, that wouldn't be a good way to
introduce yourself! Plus, you could write
your own satires like Turq does - you're
not the only informant that reads the
newspapers.

  I think what you are saying is that 
  you had a full blown hissy fit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


Bhairitu:
 To get the US out of debt we should tax 
 stock sales on Wall Street. It could be 
 a very small tax and again nothing that 
 anyone would notice much...

So, how much would taxing 'Wall Street' go
toward either balancing the federal budget 
or eliminating the $14 trillion deficit?

Didn't Obama already approve a national 
budget a few months ago?

Obama's Budget for Fiscal Year 2012:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget



[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


Bhairitu:
 Those are the ones to get out on 
 the street...

Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally'
to show they are against runaway federal
spending and payroll taxation. 

Or, were you thinking you would start 
a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE 
taxation and MORE spending? You're not
making much sense.

Is that your best plan for balancing the
federal budget? Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Nice crib, dude

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
It's always fascinated me how different spiritual teacher types choose
to live, and where. I've seen a few of the places Maharishi lived,
including the Godfather II house on Lake Tahoe and Seelisberg. I've seen
photos of Vlodrop and personally liked it better before he set about
remaking it in the image of S-V. I've also visited Yogananda's old house
in California.

Today I stumbled upon a realtor listing of one of the houses dwelt in by
Rama - Frederick Lenz. As it turns out, now having GoogleMapped the
address, I realize that at the time I lived in a guest house on a
private lake a couple of miles away, but never got to see this
particular house. Wish I'd been able to. That would have been a cool
place to sit on a terrace and rap.

http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2011/03/10/zen-master-rama-lenz-bedford-hou\
se-home-of-the-day/
 
http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2011/03/10/zen-master-rama-lenz-bedford-ho\
use-home-of-the-day/
  [http://p.rdcpix.com/v03/l888dcb42-m1x.jpg]


[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
  So, which one is the one from Missouri?
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282854 
 
Vaj:
 Empty Willy.

Which one, the one from Texas, or the one from Missouri?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice crib, dude

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


turquoiseb:
 Today I stumbled upon a realtor listing of one of 
 the houses dwelt in by Rama - Frederick Lenz. As 
 it turns out, now having GoogleMapped the address, 
 I realize that at the time I lived in a guest house 
 on a private lake a couple of miles away, but never 
 got to see this particular house. Wish I'd been 
 able to. That would have been a cool place to sit 
 on a terrace and rap...
 
So, you gave Rama over $10,000 for seminars and books
over ten years, and you moved all the way to New York 
to be near him, but he never invited you up to his 
house for a rap? Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice crib, dude

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
One of the most amazing places I lived as a child was an apartment on Hong Kong 
island in the early '70's, with a view sweeping down from the island to the 
close shore of skyscrapers and neon, across the harbor of ships from 
everywhere, to the Kowloon peninsula, bordered by the weathered spines of the 
Seven Dragon peaks, and beyond that to China. I was in high school and loved to 
sit on the balcony and watch the harbor and neon-lit city reflected in the 
water late at night. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 It's always fascinated me how different spiritual teacher types choose
 to live, and where. I've seen a few of the places Maharishi lived,
 including the Godfather II house on Lake Tahoe and Seelisberg. I've seen
 photos of Vlodrop and personally liked it better before he set about
 remaking it in the image of S-V. I've also visited Yogananda's old house
 in California.
 
 Today I stumbled upon a realtor listing of one of the houses dwelt in by
 Rama - Frederick Lenz. As it turns out, now having GoogleMapped the
 address, I realize that at the time I lived in a guest house on a
 private lake a couple of miles away, but never got to see this
 particular house. Wish I'd been able to. That would have been a cool
 place to sit on a terrace and rap.
 
 http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2011/03/10/zen-master-rama-lenz-bedford-hou\
 se-home-of-the-day/
  
 http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2011/03/10/zen-master-rama-lenz-bedford-ho\
 use-home-of-the-day/
   [http://p.rdcpix.com/v03/l888dcb42-m1x.jpg]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fight against the FDA's ridiculous supplement regulation

2011-07-18 Thread metoostill


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostill metoostill@
 wrote:
  More to the point many inner circle re-certified TM teachers living in
 FF and out of town have recently suffered devastating lead poisoning
 from visits to the much praised Raju's clinic in India where they were
 treated to ayur-vedic pills and potions. There have been enough
 extremely serious cases in FF that the University of Iowa has offered to
 test free for heavy metals anyone who brings a sample of herbs from
 india to protect the public health. Does anyone else know more of the
 details?
 
 I don't doubt what you are saying, but can you name one?

I am an old timer and several of my old time best friends who still maintain 
the TMO code of silence and work in the company are involved, but I heard 
this also from my kids who are old MSAE grads.  I just looked on FF Life to get 
any detail I didn't have.  Apparently Raju is horrified and afraid he'll loose 
his American meal ticket (with good reason), and has tracked the problem to one 
of his pill and herb suppliers.  Lead poisoning that caused serious symptoms 
that drove several to the hospital after home in IA, where lead was pinpointed 
as the problem, in blood concentration that pins the dial when measured, and 
then tested for and discovered in mega amounts in the Raju ayur-vedic 
medicines.  Yes the FDA can be obstructive but yes the FDA plays a valuable 
role at other times.  This might have been one where their involvement would 
have been to our benefit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Googling God

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Following up on my rap about Mystery, it occurs to
 me that a lot of my issue with those who seek to
 understand life's Mystery rather than just enjoy-
 ing it as the E-ticket ride it is

Why is it necessary for you to have an issue with
people who approach life differently than you do? Does
the fact that they seek to understand get in the way
of your mindless enjoyment?

Here's a suggestion: Try *just once* to write about
some aspect of how you live your life without putting
down any aspect of how other people live theirs.

It won't be easy. It'll be like Dr. Strangelove
trying to keep his arm from automatically shooting up
in a Nazi salute.

You seem unable to value your ideas and ways of being
unless you can compare them favorably to those of
others. You have tremendous difficulty seeing yourself
on your own terms; you seem able to define yourself
only in terms of how you're better than other people.

If you resist this description, try the exercise I
proposed. I think it'll be very revealing.




[FairfieldLife] Austrian Man Wins Right To Wear Pasta Strainer In License Photo

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/15/137824732/austrian-man-wins-r
ight-to-wear-pasta-strainer-in-license-photo?sc=emaf



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mystery and its possible opposite, Understanding

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
And another example. You can't just rap about your love
of mystery without belittling other people who love
looking for answers. It's so *predictable*. It's such
a *rut*.

It's as if you're so insecure about the value of your
own predilections you're afraid to let people form
their own opinions about them unless you first instruct
them in the inferior value of predilections different
from yours.

Let your predilections stand on their own for a change.
Explain why you find value in them *without* also
devaluing others.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Something said in the Mystery of Chaco Canyon video
 I posted a link to earlier got me thinking about the
 mysterious topic of Mystery. In the film Robert 
 Redford was speaking eloquently about the Anasazi
 gazing up into the sky and perceiving its predictable
 patterns -- patterns recognized only after 19 gener-
 ations of careful observation, but patterns nonetheless
 -- as being to some extent the opposite of the chaos
 and unpredictability they saw in the world around them. 
 It would have been natural for people in that time to 
 look to the heavens and try to extrapolate from its 
 patterns similar patterns that would work for us 
 humans down on earth. They longed for Understanding.
 
 I'm not as big a fan as some people of Understanding.
 I don't understand shit about the universe and How
 It All Works. But I'm a big fanboy of its Mystery.
 
 One of the things that I've noticed in my Road Trips
 around the spiritual marketplace is that quite a few
 of the people who feel -- or say -- that they under-
 stand things coincidentally seem to me to be the
 same ones who have the least feeling for Mystery. It's
 as if the folks who were presented with what for them
 intellectually constituted a believable answer we have 
 already prepared or who had their own cognitions 
 based on a powerful subjective experience *stopped 
 wondering* about the things they felt they understood,
 and to some extent closed themselves off to further
 Wonder. The greater the sense of I understand the
 Mystery, the lesser the sense of Wonder, and the
 lesser a corresponding openness to Mystery.
 
 I get the desire to feel as if one had figured things
 out. But personally I get off more on the Go Figuring.
 I was amused when I moved to France that one of my
 favorite phrases in English (Go figure) had its
 counterpart in French (Va savoir). Even though 
 literally (Go forth to know) it's more explicit 
 in French about seeking some kind of goal, the more
 common meaning when it's spoken in conversation is
 more like the Brooklynese Go figure. It's an expres-
 sion of the idea that the goal may be unattainable,
 and that the going is the important thing, not 
 the figuring. 
 
 That kinda captures my credo as well. Even though I
 am often accused of being a Buddhist, I am probably
 more of a Taoist. The quote I used for the frontis-
 piece of the book I called Road Trip Mind was from 
 Lao-tzu: A good traveler has no fixed plans, and 
 is not intent upon arriving.
 
 I hope to never understand the universe and How 
 It All Works. Where's the fun in that? I hope to
 keep wandering and wondering till my last day on
 this rock, and after that to keep doing the same
 thing in future incarnations, if they present 
 themselves. In my experience those I've met who
 seemed most convinced that they understood things
 also seemed to be the most locked into a kind of
 intellectual (and often spiritual) stasis. They
 didn't go much of anywhere new, and just kept
 repeating the things they knew over and over.
 
 Boring. My path has no destination, and hopefully
 will never have an end. The saddest thing I can
 imagine is the spiritual path having an end. And
 yet others not only embrace this idea, they seek
 it fervently. It's just another instance of 
 predilection, I guess. 
 
 For them, the phrase Go figure has its emphasis
 on the second word. For me, the emphasis is very
 much on the first. Although I may ponder many sub-
 jects on this forum in a seeming attempt to figure
 them out, for me the wonder is to be found in the
 continual going, not in the figuring. If what
 Maharishi said about the natural tendency of the
 mind is true, my personal natural tendency is in
 the direction of Mystery and Wonder. If there was
 a branch of the path that veered off to the right
 and had a signpost there at the crossroads saying 
 This Way To Understanding, I missed it. And I 
 don't miss having missed it.





[FairfieldLife] Meditation May Change Brain's Physical Structure, Strengthen Connections

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
MEDITATION MAY CHANGE BRAIN'S PHYSICAL STRUCTURE, STRENGTHEN CONNECTIONS
KurzweilAI July 15, 2011

http://nhne-pulse.org/meditation-may-change-brains-physical-structure/

http://www.kurzweilai.net/meditation-may-change-brains-physical-structure-st
rengthen-connections

Meditation may have potential to change the brain's physical structure,
researchers at the University of California, Los Angeles, have found.

People who meditate have stronger connections between brain regions and show
less age-related brain atrophy, according to the researchers. 
Stronger connections influence the ability to rapidly relay electrical
signals in the brain. And significantly, these effects are evident
throughout the entire brain, not just in specific areas.

The study consisted of 27 active meditation practitioners (average age
52) and 27 control subjects, who were matched by age and sex. The meditation
and the control group each consisted of 11 men and 16 women. 
The number of years of meditation practice ranged from 5 to 46;
self-reported meditation styles included Shamatha, Vipassana and Zazen,
practiced by about 55 percent of the meditators, either exclusively or in
combination with other styles.

Pronounced Structural Connectivity

The researchers used a type of brain imaging known as diffusion tensor
imaging (DTI), a relatively new imaging mode that provides insights into the
structural connectivity of the brain. They found that the differences
between meditators and controls are not confined to a particular core region
of the brain but involve large-scale networks that include the frontal,
temporal, parietal and occipital lobes and the anterior corpus callosum, as
well as limbic structures and the brain stem.

They found pronounced structural connectivity in meditators throughout the
entire brain's pathways. The greatest differences between the two groups
were seen within the corticospinal tract (a collection of axons that travel
between the cerebral cortex of the brain and the spinal cord), the superior
longitudinal fasciculus (long bi-directional bundles of neurons connecting
the front and the back of the cerebrum), and the uncinate fasciculus (white
matter that connects parts of the limbic system, such as the hippocampus and
amygdala, with the frontal cortex).

Meditation appears to be a powerful mental exercise with the potential to
change the physical structure of the brain at large, said Eileen Luders of
UCLA. Collecting evidence that active, frequent, and regular meditation
practices cause alterations of white-matter fiber tracts that are profound
and sustainable may become relevant for patient populations suffering from
axonal demyelination and white-matter atrophy.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fight against the FDA's ridiculous supplement regulation

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 08:19 AM, metoostill wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@...  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostillmetoostill@
 wrote:
 More to the point many inner circle re-certified TM teachers living in
 FF and out of town have recently suffered devastating lead poisoning
 from visits to the much praised Raju's clinic in India where they were
 treated to ayur-vedic pills and potions. There have been enough
 extremely serious cases in FF that the University of Iowa has offered to
 test free for heavy metals anyone who brings a sample of herbs from
 india to protect the public health. Does anyone else know more of the
 details?
 I don't doubt what you are saying, but can you name one?
 I am an old timer and several of my old time best friends who still maintain 
 the TMO code of silence and work in the company are involved, but I heard 
 this also from my kids who are old MSAE grads.  I just looked on FF Life to 
 get any detail I didn't have.  Apparently Raju is horrified and afraid he'll 
 loose his American meal ticket (with good reason), and has tracked the 
 problem to one of his pill and herb suppliers.  Lead poisoning that caused 
 serious symptoms that drove several to the hospital after home in IA, where 
 lead was pinpointed as the problem, in blood concentration that pins the dial 
 when measured, and then tested for and discovered in mega amounts in the Raju 
 ayur-vedic medicines.  Yes the FDA can be obstructive but yes the FDA plays 
 a valuable role at other times.  This might have been one where their 
 involvement would have been to our benefit.

Go back and read my original post.  I *said* that supplement 
manufacturers would like some regulations.  That would have insured 
against such tainted goods.  The problem is not the FDA but the greedy 
pharmaceutical companies wanting the supplement market for themselves. 
It is important to understand the term pull the ladder up regulation.  
This is how big companies unfairly eliminate competition.  And big 
pharma has given us things like Vioxx.  Big pharma has killed more 
people than tainted ayurvedic products ever have.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@
  wrote:
  
   What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony 
   are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with 
   subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is 
   not a matter of you doing my homework asking you (Judy) to 
   write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate that with 
   such a serious threat to millions neither you nor most people 
   would be willing to approach the holocaust in that manner.
  
  I think what you are saying is that you had a full blown
 hissy fit.
 
 Exactly. With a drama queen tiara on top.

But that applies only to johnt, of course, not to, say,
Bhairitu:

The Republicans are pulling a robbery on Americans. And we
have these fools who probably don't even earn much more than
$50k a year supporting them!

That's because Bhairitu is no longer a TMer, but johnt still
is. So Bhairitu gets a pass, while johnt must be put down and
piled onto.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 07:29 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote:

 Bhairitu:
 Those are the ones to get out on
 the street...

 Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally'
 to show they are against runaway federal
 spending and payroll taxation.

 Or, were you thinking you would start
 a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE
 taxation and MORE spending? You're not
 making much sense.

 Is that your best plan for balancing the
 federal budget? Go figure.

Stop the costly wars of empire.  That would help a lot to balance the 
budget.  Why didn't you mention that?



[FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
Couple Finds Jesus In Walmart Receipt (VIDEO) 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/jesus-in-walmart-receipt_n_901\
548.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/jesus-in-walmart-receipt_n_9015\
48.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/jesus-in-walmart-receipt_n_901\
548.html




[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Alert: Obama chooses terror organization over American security

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Re: [FairfieldLife] The people of Walmart

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
Or... America drinks ... and goes to Walmart. :-D

On 07/17/2011 12:37 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
 Those are actual photos of people shopping, so they can look their very best, 
 appearing on the Jerry Springer Show.


 From: Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 2:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The people of Walmart


   
 I don't know if anyone has posted this stuff before but I was listening
 to the YouTube video of Gerald Celente's latest appearance no Jeff Rense
 and the video has a running slide show of photos taken of Walmart
 shoppers. Quite gross and hilarious:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETXJ8cRceM

 And if you just want to peruse Walmart shopper photos there is a site
 devoted to it:
 http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos

 Aren't Americans a grand sight!






Re: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Mike Dixon
Haven't you guys ever heard of AC?


From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning


  
http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=IAZ087warncounty=IAC101firewxzone=IAZ087local_place1=Fairfield+IAproduct1=Excessive+Heat+Warning
Excessive Heat Warning

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL
330 PM CDT SUN JUL 17 2011

...AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY...

HOT AND HUMID CONDITIONS REMAINS IN PLACE THROUGH MOST OF THIS
WEEK. TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 90S WITH HIGH HUMIDITY LEVELS
WILL PUSH AFTERNOON HEAT INDEX VALUES TO 100 TO OVER 110. LITTLE
RELIEF FROM THE HEAT WILL OCCUR AT NIGHT SINCE LOW TEMPERATURES
WILL BE IN THE 70S. THE DANGEROUS HEAT WILL REMAIN OVER THE AREA
THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY AND MAY CONTINUE INTO NEXT SATURDAY OVER
ALL OR PART OF THE AREA.

THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HEATWAVE THE REGION HAS
EXPERIENCED IN AT LEAST THE LAST 5 YEARS.


330 PM CDT SUN JUL 17 2011

...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 PM CDT
THURSDAY...

* HEAT INDEX/TEMPERATURE...AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES IN THE LOWER TO
  MIDDLE 90S COMBINED WITH HIGH HUMIDITY WILL CREATE HEAT INDEX
  VALUES OF 105 TO 115 THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY. NIGHT TIME LOWS
  WILL BE IN THE 70S...OFFERING LITTLE RELIEF FROM THE HEAT. THE
  DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY COULD CONTINUE FRIDAY INTO NEXT
  WEEKEND.

* IMPACTS...THE PROLONGED PERIOD OF DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY
  WILL INCREASE THE RISK OF HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS IF YOU WORK OR SPEND TIME OUTSIDE.  WHEN
POSSIBLE...RESCHEDULE STRENUOUS ACTIVITIES TO EARLY MORNING OR
EVENING.  KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AND HEAT
STROKE.  WEAR LIGHT WEIGHT AND LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING WHEN
POSSIBLE AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER.

TO REDUCE RISK DURING OUTDOOR WORK THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND
HEALTH ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS SCHEDULING FREQUENT REST BREAKS
IN SHADED OR AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENTS.  ANYONE OVERCOME BY
HEAT SHOULD BE MOVED TO A COOL AND SHADED LOCATION.  HEAT STROKE
IS AN EMERGENCY...CALL 9 1 1.

AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING MEANS THAT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF
DANGEROUSLY HOT TEMPERATURES AND HIGH HUMIDITY WILL OCCUR.  THIS
COMBINATION WILL LEAD TO A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN WHICH HEAT
ILLNESSES ARE LIKELY. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS...STAY IN AN AIR-
CONDITIONED ROOM...STAY OUT OF THE SUN...AND CHECK ON RELATIVES
AND NEIGHBORS...ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Haven't you guys ever heard of AC?

Didn't you read the last two paragaphs?

And BTW, there are many poor/elderly people who can't
afford AC. Some can't even afford *fans*; local
governments often have programs to distribute free fans
to those who don't own one.


 
 
 From: Dick Mays dickmays@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:14 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning
 
 
   
 http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=IAZ087warncounty=IAC101firewxzone=IAZ087local_place1=Fairfield+IAproduct1=Excessive+Heat+Warning
 Excessive Heat Warning
 
 URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL
 330 PM CDT SUN JUL 17 2011
 
 ...AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY...
 
 HOT AND HUMID CONDITIONS REMAINS IN PLACE THROUGH MOST OF THIS
 WEEK. TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 90S WITH HIGH HUMIDITY LEVELS
 WILL PUSH AFTERNOON HEAT INDEX VALUES TO 100 TO OVER 110. LITTLE
 RELIEF FROM THE HEAT WILL OCCUR AT NIGHT SINCE LOW TEMPERATURES
 WILL BE IN THE 70S. THE DANGEROUS HEAT WILL REMAIN OVER THE AREA
 THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY AND MAY CONTINUE INTO NEXT SATURDAY OVER
 ALL OR PART OF THE AREA.
 
 THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HEATWAVE THE REGION HAS
 EXPERIENCED IN AT LEAST THE LAST 5 YEARS.
 
 
 330 PM CDT SUN JUL 17 2011
 
 ...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 PM CDT
 THURSDAY...
 
 * HEAT INDEX/TEMPERATURE...AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES IN THE LOWER TO
   MIDDLE 90S COMBINED WITH HIGH HUMIDITY WILL CREATE HEAT INDEX
   VALUES OF 105 TO 115 THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY. NIGHT TIME LOWS
   WILL BE IN THE 70S...OFFERING LITTLE RELIEF FROM THE HEAT. THE
   DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY COULD CONTINUE FRIDAY INTO NEXT
   WEEKEND.
 
 * IMPACTS...THE PROLONGED PERIOD OF DANGEROUS HEAT AND HUMIDITY
   WILL INCREASE THE RISK OF HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES.
 
 PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
 
 TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS IF YOU WORK OR SPEND TIME OUTSIDE.  WHEN
 POSSIBLE...RESCHEDULE STRENUOUS ACTIVITIES TO EARLY MORNING OR
 EVENING.  KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF HEAT EXHAUSTION AND HEAT
 STROKE.  WEAR LIGHT WEIGHT AND LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING WHEN
 POSSIBLE AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER.
 
 TO REDUCE RISK DURING OUTDOOR WORK THE OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND
 HEALTH ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDS SCHEDULING FREQUENT REST BREAKS
 IN SHADED OR AIR CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENTS.  ANYONE OVERCOME BY
 HEAT SHOULD BE MOVED TO A COOL AND SHADED LOCATION.  HEAT STROKE
 IS AN EMERGENCY...CALL 9 1 1.
 
 AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING MEANS THAT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF
 DANGEROUSLY HOT TEMPERATURES AND HIGH HUMIDITY WILL OCCUR.  THIS
 COMBINATION WILL LEAD TO A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN WHICH HEAT
 ILLNESSES ARE LIKELY. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS...STAY IN AN AIR-
 CONDITIONED ROOM...STAY OUT OF THE SUN...AND CHECK ON RELATIVES
 AND NEIGHBORS...ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread Vaj

That kinda looks like Maharishi or Charlie Manson.

On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:49 PM, turquoiseb wrote:


Couple Finds Jesus In Walmart Receipt (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/jesus-in-walmart- 
receipt_n_901548.html




[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's 
  technology for keeping time.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related
 
 I rarely look at these things, because I'm just not on
 The ancients knew more than we do bus, and I didn't
 watch this clip, either.

And you're so smart you just knew this film was on that
silly bus without having to watch any of it.

Wrong. It's not on that bus any more than the Chaco Canyon
film you tout. In fact, from your description, the Chaco
Canyon film comes to very much the same conclusion the
Tools of Astronomy film does: the people who constructed
the huge buildings and complexes the films examine did so
on the basis of highly detailed naked-eye observation of
the sky.





 
 However, it being posted reminded me of a fascinating
 film that used to be hard to find (you could only get
 it on DVD from the filmmakers or at the gift shop at
 Chaco Canyon itself), but which, after a quick search,
 I discover is now on YouTube. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRQfPQCic0
 
 Narrated by and partially funded by Robert Redford, 
 this is a great film about one of the most spectacular
 historical sites on the planet, and certainly the most
 spectacular in North America, Chaco Canyon. I've been
 there many times. There are buildings there larger 
 than the Colusseum in Rome, built in an ares in which
 few of the building materials could be found. The 
 Anasazi ruled an area that encompassed 95,000 square
 miles in the American Southwest. They were the Romans
 of the North American continent. And then one day 
 (literally, in a historical sense), they just went
 away. Where, how, and why are still a mystery.
 
 In the film, they use computer modeling to show that
 the Anasazi were so hip to the movement of the stars
 and planets that the whole complex can be legitimately
 be seen as an enormous computer, just as Stonehenge can.
 That said, the Anasazi were kinda on the dark side; 
 modern-day Peublo Indians won't even go there, and
 consider their ancestors the Anasazi almost black
 magicians. I certainly felt some darker vibes in some
 of the sites there at Chaco, but in others what I felt
 while meditating there was shiny and high, and to me
 supports the film's theory that this was a place not
 for dwelling in full-time, but a place of pilgrimage
 to which tens of thousands of Anasazi would travel
 at times of power (Solstices, Equinoxes, eclipses,
 etc.) to revere power. 
 
 Enjoy. If you liked the clip about the Mayans, you'll
 like this one about their more Northern counterparts.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
Kinda looks like a homeless guy to me.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
Heat index is 110 here at the moment, and climbing.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation May Change Brain's Physical Structure, Strengthen Connections

2011-07-18 Thread sparaig
I suspect that this study will end up being the relaxation response study of 
teh teens. Just as virtually all meditation techniques result in some level of 
relaxation, but the details of that relaxation vary from technique to 
technique, so just about all mental techniques that show consistent brain 
activity will show this same general thing: the connections between parts of 
the brain that are activated together get stronger.

In the case of compassion meditation, you will find such connections getting 
stronger in the areas associated with compassion. In TM, you will find the 
connections getting stronger between the prefrontal cortex and the rest of the 
brain. 

THe difference between TM and the otehrs is that the connections are getting 
stronger while in resting modes of activity (alpha EEG), while in the case of 
many of the others, they will be getting stronger during higher activity modes 
(gamma EEG). This many or may not make a difference in the long run, or in the 
short run, or it may, but my intuition suggests that more sophisticated 
research is going to find that there is a difference between connections 
strengthened during periods of high concentration, and connections strengthened 
during periods of rest.


L.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 MEDITATION MAY CHANGE BRAIN'S PHYSICAL STRUCTURE, STRENGTHEN CONNECTIONS
 KurzweilAI July 15, 2011
 
 http://nhne-pulse.org/meditation-may-change-brains-physical-structure/
 
 http://www.kurzweilai.net/meditation-may-change-brains-physical-structure-st
 rengthen-connections
 
 Meditation may have potential to change the brain's physical structure,
 researchers at the University of California, Los Angeles, have found.
 
 People who meditate have stronger connections between brain regions and show
 less age-related brain atrophy, according to the researchers. 
 Stronger connections influence the ability to rapidly relay electrical
 signals in the brain. And significantly, these effects are evident
 throughout the entire brain, not just in specific areas.
 
 The study consisted of 27 active meditation practitioners (average age
 52) and 27 control subjects, who were matched by age and sex. The meditation
 and the control group each consisted of 11 men and 16 women. 
 The number of years of meditation practice ranged from 5 to 46;
 self-reported meditation styles included Shamatha, Vipassana and Zazen,
 practiced by about 55 percent of the meditators, either exclusively or in
 combination with other styles.
 
 Pronounced Structural Connectivity
 
 The researchers used a type of brain imaging known as diffusion tensor
 imaging (DTI), a relatively new imaging mode that provides insights into the
 structural connectivity of the brain. They found that the differences
 between meditators and controls are not confined to a particular core region
 of the brain but involve large-scale networks that include the frontal,
 temporal, parietal and occipital lobes and the anterior corpus callosum, as
 well as limbic structures and the brain stem.
 
 They found pronounced structural connectivity in meditators throughout the
 entire brain's pathways. The greatest differences between the two groups
 were seen within the corticospinal tract (a collection of axons that travel
 between the cerebral cortex of the brain and the spinal cord), the superior
 longitudinal fasciculus (long bi-directional bundles of neurons connecting
 the front and the back of the cerebrum), and the uncinate fasciculus (white
 matter that connects parts of the limbic system, such as the hippocampus and
 amygdala, with the frontal cortex).
 
 Meditation appears to be a powerful mental exercise with the potential to
 change the physical structure of the brain at large, said Eileen Luders of
 UCLA. Collecting evidence that active, frequent, and regular meditation
 practices cause alterations of white-matter fiber tracts that are profound
 and sustainable may become relevant for patient populations suffering from
 axonal demyelination and white-matter atrophy.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Archer
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:21 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this
kinda stuff up dept.

 

  

Kinda looks like a homeless guy to me.

But then Jesus was homeless: Foxes have holes and birds of the air have
nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. - Luke 9:58

Cool verse, that. To me, he's talking about not being locked into conceptual
boundaries or limited perspectives.



[FairfieldLife] Super Dog fights off robbers

2011-07-18 Thread raunchydog
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/paco-the-chihuahua-chases-away-armed-robbers/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread Vaj


On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer

Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:21 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make  
this kinda stuff up dept.






Kinda looks like a homeless guy to me.

But then Jesus was homeless: Foxes have holes and birds of the air  
have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. -  
Luke 9:58


Cool verse, that. To me, he’s talking about not being locked into  
conceptual boundaries or limited perspectives.


And the old picture of Mahesh in B/W that this looks like, he was  
homeless.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
I just went through this back East. Drink LOTS of water and liquids - a gallon 
a day. Crank the AC. If outside and you stop sweating, see a doctor. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 110 here at the moment, and climbing.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation May Change Brain's Physical Structure, Strengthen Connections

2011-07-18 Thread Vaj


On Jul 18, 2011, at 1:07 PM, sparaig wrote:

I suspect that this study will end up being the relaxation  
response study of teh teens. Just as virtually all meditation  
techniques result in some level of relaxation, but the details of  
that relaxation vary from technique to technique, so just about all  
mental techniques that show consistent brain activity will show  
this same general thing: the connections between parts of the brain  
that are activated together get stronger.


In the case of compassion meditation, you will find such  
connections getting stronger in the areas associated with  
compassion. In TM, you will find the connections getting stronger  
between the prefrontal cortex and the rest of the brain.


THe difference between TM and the otehrs is that the connections  
are getting stronger while in resting modes of activity (alpha  
EEG), while in the case of many of the others, they will be getting  
stronger during higher activity modes (gamma EEG). This many or may  
not make a difference in the long run, or in the short run, or it  
may, but my intuition suggests that more sophisticated research is  
going to find that there is a difference between connections  
strengthened during periods of high concentration, and connections  
strengthened during periods of rest.



They found that the differences
 between meditators and controls are not confined to a particular  
core region
 of the brain but involve large-scale networks that include the  
frontal,
 temporal, parietal and occipital lobes and the anterior corpus  
callosum, as

 well as limbic structures and the brain stem.




Actually what this sounds like is a further validation of Sarah  
Lazar's groundbreaking findings on the thickness of the cortex  
increasing -- not in just certain areas, but now across wider swaths  
of the entire brain. This could explain why and how advanced yogis  
are able to control various autonomic functions like temperature,  
breathing or heart rate, as it's like upgrading the cerebral cortex's  
connection to the reptilian brainstem.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


   Those are the ones to get out on
   the street...
  
  Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally'
  to show they are against runaway federal
  spending and payroll taxation.
 
  Or, were you thinking you would start
  a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE
  taxation and MORE spending? You're not
  making much sense.
 
  Is that your best plan for balancing the
  federal budget? Go figure.
 
Bhairitu:
 Stop the costly wars of empire.  That would 
 help a lot to balance the budget. 

Has the U.S. declared war against anyone? 

 Why didn't you mention that?

Because the defense budget is only a fraction
of the federal spending budget? How much do you 
think you could reduce the federal deficit of 
$13 trillion by bringing all the troops home?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
I enjoy finding that stuff in the Bible sometimes. In a code of sorts, that 
clarity unlocks. Someone oughta rewrite The Book to make stuff like that more 
evident. Probably wouldn't sell though.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Rick Archer
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:21 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this
 kinda stuff up dept.
 
  
 
   
 
 Kinda looks like a homeless guy to me.
 
 But then Jesus was homeless: Foxes have holes and birds of the air have
 nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. - Luke 9:58
 
 Cool verse, that. To me, he's talking about not being locked into conceptual
 boundaries or limited perspectives.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas willytex@... 
wrote:
snip
 Has the U.S. declared war against anyone? 

Seriously??



[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I just went through this back East. Drink LOTS of water and liquids - a 
 gallon a day. Crank the AC. If outside and you stop sweating, see a doctor. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Heat index is 110 here at the moment, and climbing.
 


Too much water can kill you.  One to two liters a day depending on your body 
mass is plenty.  



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixonmdixon.6569@...  wrote:
 Haven't you guys ever heard of AC?
 Didn't you read the last two paragaphs?

 And BTW, there are many poor/elderly people who can't
 afford AC. Some can't even afford *fans*; local
 governments often have programs to distribute free fans
 to those who don't own one.


The mid-west normally has heat waves during the summer.  Mike was 
kidding.  Probably most homes there do have some form of AC.

OTOH, the Jet Stream has shifted further north and they may be getting 
the weather we usually get in the Bay Area.  Right now it's in the 70s 
here and will probably top out in the mid-80s today.  For me that is not 
even enough to turn on ceiling fans.  So far this summer I have run my 
AC only about 3 times.  The house is prepped for central air but it 
would have cost me $5000 due to a needed electrical upgrade to have it 
installed.  So I passed.  And a new roof helped.

The previous owner spared no money on improvements and if it was hot 
enough to have central air she would have.  The day of the open house I 
asked her about that and she told me there just weren't that many hot 
days to justify it.  Currently I'm running probably a 26 year old GE 
through the wall in the living room.  I wanted to replace it with a new 
Fedders with a remote.  For the computer room I got a Soleus portable 
which keeps the room cool on hot days.

I live inland from the Bay and San Francisco folks are usually rejoicing 
when we have heat waves because that's mean shirt sleeve weather there 
while we inland folks are sweltering.  Sometimes we want to reach into 
the radio and strangle the weather reporter who is so gleeful about the 
heat because they are in SF. :-D





Re: [FairfieldLife] Bill Maher, accused of sexism, rips Palin, Bachman, and Jesus

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/17/2011 10:40 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
 And well. A great rant. I particularly liked, If you
 want to know where most of this nation's sexism is
 coming from, you don't have to look any further than
 the one person who makes the cover of Newsweek more
 often than Sarah Palin -- Jesus.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sarah-palin_n_900994.html

Being a liberal myself and having HBO you'd probably think I would be a 
regular watcher of Maher.  But he is a limousine liberal and only covers 
specific liberal agenda.  So I haven't watched any of the recent 
episodes.  And of course he is closed minded when it comes to 
conspiracies which lowered my opinion of him.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 11:32 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote:

 Those are the ones to get out on
 the street...

 Maybe they could join a 'Tea Party Rally'
 to show they are against runaway federal
 spending and payroll taxation.

 Or, were you thinking you would start
 a new 'rally protest' to promote MORE
 taxation and MORE spending? You're not
 making much sense.

 Is that your best plan for balancing the
 federal budget? Go figure.

 Bhairitu:
 Stop the costly wars of empire.  That would
 help a lot to balance the budget.

 Has the U.S. declared war against anyone?

 Why didn't you mention that?

 Because the defense budget is only a fraction
 of the federal spending budget? How much do you
 think you could reduce the federal deficit of
 $13 trillion by bringing all the troops home?

We could have given everyone in the US free health care for the last 10 
years for what we wasted in these wars of empire the last 10 years.  
Members of the Bush administration should be convicted of war crimes and 
spending the rest of their lives in prison rather that touring the 
world.  Of course their tours are a little limited these days as there 
are some countries they had to skip because they will get arrested there.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 09:20 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@...  wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@  wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johntjohnlasher20002000@
 wrote:
 What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony
 are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with
 subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is
 not a matter of you doing my homework asking you (Judy) to
 write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate that with
 such a serious threat to millions neither you nor most people
 would be willing to approach the holocaust in that manner.
 I think what you are saying is that you had a full blown
 hissy fit.

 Exactly. With a drama queen tiara on top.
 But that applies only to johnt, of course, not to, say,
 Bhairitu:

 The Republicans are pulling a robbery on Americans. And we
 have these fools who probably don't even earn much more than
 $50k a year supporting them!

 That's because Bhairitu is no longer a TMer, but johnt still
 is. So Bhairitu gets a pass, while johnt must be put down and
 piled onto.

Perhaps if Judy would have just replied to johnt, I think the author 
was being facetious then there wouldn't be an issue.  Instead Judy had 
to  make johnt look like a fool.  But Judy has this bad habit of doing 
this a lot the time.  So she invites reprisal (which we can assume she 
is looking for).  We know that both Judy and Turq probably don't want to 
see senior citizens starving on the streets because they are ones 
themselves.  Judy has already stated that in one reply.

I think Judy often misses the point that such articles are there to wake 
people up to what *could* actually happen if we let these selfish thugs 
run the government.  It wouldn't be the first time in history that 
things have gone awry.  And the rich are the real complacent ones that 
haven't learned from history even if they attended an exclusive Ivy 
League college (where daddy probably had to pull some string to keep 
them from flunking out).

It is important to note that last year Bill Gate's own father mounted a 
campaign and initiative in Washington state raise taxes on the state's 
wealthy.   The initiative lost in the election due to a bunch of stupid 
people who apparently think they are wealthy earning $40,000 a year.  
Those kind of fools are what I mean when I use the term useful idiots 
(for the rich) and we even have some of those on FFL.  Always notice 
that the Republicans say raise taxes as if they mean raise taxes on 
everyone not just people earning $250,000 or more a year.  You fools are 
being had.

This country is so dead. :-(




[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread John
Hey, Barry

Your link doesn't work for me.  Anyway, I read somewhere that the Anasazi 
culture disappeared because they had to move out of their location due to 
drought.

This was also the same theory for the demise of the Mayan civilization.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's 
  technology for keeping time.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related
 
 I rarely look at these things, because I'm just not on
 The ancients knew more than we do bus, and I didn't
 watch this clip, either. 
 
 However, it being posted reminded me of a fascinating
 film that used to be hard to find (you could only get
 it on DVD from the filmmakers or at the gift shop at
 Chaco Canyon itself), but which, after a quick search,
 I discover is now on YouTube. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRQfPQCic0
 
 Narrated by and partially funded by Robert Redford, 
 this is a great film about one of the most spectacular
 historical sites on the planet, and certainly the most
 spectacular in North America, Chaco Canyon. I've been
 there many times. There are buildings there larger 
 than the Colusseum in Rome, built in an ares in which
 few of the building materials could be found. The 
 Anasazi ruled an area that encompassed 95,000 square
 miles in the American Southwest. They were the Romans
 of the North American continent. And then one day 
 (literally, in a historical sense), they just went
 away. Where, how, and why are still a mystery.
 
 In the film, they use computer modeling to show that
 the Anasazi were so hip to the movement of the stars
 and planets that the whole complex can be legitimately
 be seen as an enormous computer, just as Stonehenge can.
 That said, the Anasazi were kinda on the dark side; 
 modern-day Peublo Indians won't even go there, and
 consider their ancestors the Anasazi almost black
 magicians. I certainly felt some darker vibes in some
 of the sites there at Chaco, but in others what I felt
 while meditating there was shiny and high, and to me
 supports the film's theory that this was a place not
 for dwelling in full-time, but a place of pilgrimage
 to which tens of thousands of Anasazi would travel
 at times of power (Solstices, Equinoxes, eclipses,
 etc.) to revere power. 
 
 Enjoy. If you liked the clip about the Mayans, you'll
 like this one about their more Northern counterparts.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.


Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?

The macro/micro trend distinction. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
snip
 But then Jesus was homeless: Foxes have holes and birds of
 the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay
 his head. - Luke 9:58

Actually Jesus had no trouble finding places to rest his
head along the way. People were happy to put him up.

Here, in context, he's telling a scribe who says he'll
follow Jesus wherever he goes that he has to keep going
to fulfill his mission. He wants to let the scribe know
what he's in for.

 Cool verse, that. To me, he's talking about not being
 locked into conceptual boundaries or limited perspectives.

And yet he *was* surely locked into his mission. In the
following verses, two more people tell him they want to
follow him, but they have to do this or that first. He
says, in essence, forget all that stuff. Proclaiming the
kingdom of God is more important than any earthly task.
If you think you need to do something else first, you're
not ready for it.




[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Hey, Barry
 
 Your link doesn't work for me.  

Then look up the title on YouTube. Duh.

 Anyway, I read somewhere 
 that the Anasazi culture disappeared because they had to 
 move out of their location due to drought.
 
 This was also the same theory for the demise of the Mayan 
 civilization.

This theory was discarded years ago, because no one can
find any archeological evidence of a drought or famine,
which is fairly easily detectable. The prevailing theory
these days (although they keep it under their hats because
it would so fuck the tourist industry) is that one of the
factors of their demise was cannibalism. The current
theory is that a bunch of badass Indians from Mexico
and Central or South America migrated northward to Chaco
and, being both militaristic and cannibalistic, brought
their ways to a previously peaceful society and took it
over. There is sadly some archeological evidence for 
this theory.

Newagers prefer to believe that the Anasazi just walked
off into a parallel dimension, en masse. Nicer theory
on some levels, but harder to find evidence for.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's 
   technology for keeping time.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related
  
  I rarely look at these things, because I'm just not on
  The ancients knew more than we do bus, and I didn't
  watch this clip, either. 
  
  However, it being posted reminded me of a fascinating
  film that used to be hard to find (you could only get
  it on DVD from the filmmakers or at the gift shop at
  Chaco Canyon itself), but which, after a quick search,
  I discover is now on YouTube. 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRQfPQCic0
  
  Narrated by and partially funded by Robert Redford, 
  this is a great film about one of the most spectacular
  historical sites on the planet, and certainly the most
  spectacular in North America, Chaco Canyon. I've been
  there many times. There are buildings there larger 
  than the Colusseum in Rome, built in an ares in which
  few of the building materials could be found. The 
  Anasazi ruled an area that encompassed 95,000 square
  miles in the American Southwest. They were the Romans
  of the North American continent. And then one day 
  (literally, in a historical sense), they just went
  away. Where, how, and why are still a mystery.
  
  In the film, they use computer modeling to show that
  the Anasazi were so hip to the movement of the stars
  and planets that the whole complex can be legitimately
  be seen as an enormous computer, just as Stonehenge can.
  That said, the Anasazi were kinda on the dark side; 
  modern-day Peublo Indians won't even go there, and
  consider their ancestors the Anasazi almost black
  magicians. I certainly felt some darker vibes in some
  of the sites there at Chaco, but in others what I felt
  while meditating there was shiny and high, and to me
  supports the film's theory that this was a place not
  for dwelling in full-time, but a place of pilgrimage
  to which tens of thousands of Anasazi would travel
  at times of power (Solstices, Equinoxes, eclipses,
  etc.) to revere power. 
  
  Enjoy. If you liked the clip about the Mayans, you'll
  like this one about their more Northern counterparts.
 





[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Hey, Barry
  
  Your link doesn't work for me.  
 
 Then look up the title on YouTube. Duh.

It appears the clips have been taken down at the
request of the Solstice Project, the group that
produced the film. Too bad. I hope a couple of
people got to watch it before it got copywronged.

  Anyway, I read somewhere 
  that the Anasazi culture disappeared because they had to 
  move out of their location due to drought.
  
  This was also the same theory for the demise of the Mayan 
  civilization.
 
 This theory was discarded years ago, because no one can
 find any archeological evidence of a drought or famine,
 which is fairly easily detectable. The prevailing theory
 these days (although they keep it under their hats because
 it would so fuck the tourist industry) is that one of the
 factors of their demise was cannibalism. The current
 theory is that a bunch of badass Indians from Mexico
 and Central or South America migrated northward to Chaco
 and, being both militaristic and cannibalistic, brought
 their ways to a previously peaceful society and took it
 over. There is sadly some archeological evidence for 
 this theory.
 
 Newagers prefer to believe that the Anasazi just walked
 off into a parallel dimension, en masse. Nicer theory
 on some levels, but harder to find evidence for.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
This is a very interesting documentary about the Mayan's 
technology for keeping time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7MaGCyuwkfeature=related
   
   I rarely look at these things, because I'm just not on
   The ancients knew more than we do bus, and I didn't
   watch this clip, either. 
   
   However, it being posted reminded me of a fascinating
   film that used to be hard to find (you could only get
   it on DVD from the filmmakers or at the gift shop at
   Chaco Canyon itself), but which, after a quick search,
   I discover is now on YouTube. 
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRQfPQCic0
   
   Narrated by and partially funded by Robert Redford, 
   this is a great film about one of the most spectacular
   historical sites on the planet, and certainly the most
   spectacular in North America, Chaco Canyon. I've been
   there many times. There are buildings there larger 
   than the Colusseum in Rome, built in an ares in which
   few of the building materials could be found. The 
   Anasazi ruled an area that encompassed 95,000 square
   miles in the American Southwest. They were the Romans
   of the North American continent. And then one day 
   (literally, in a historical sense), they just went
   away. Where, how, and why are still a mystery.
   
   In the film, they use computer modeling to show that
   the Anasazi were so hip to the movement of the stars
   and planets that the whole complex can be legitimately
   be seen as an enormous computer, just as Stonehenge can.
   That said, the Anasazi were kinda on the dark side; 
   modern-day Peublo Indians won't even go there, and
   consider their ancestors the Anasazi almost black
   magicians. I certainly felt some darker vibes in some
   of the sites there at Chaco, but in others what I felt
   while meditating there was shiny and high, and to me
   supports the film's theory that this was a place not
   for dwelling in full-time, but a place of pilgrimage
   to which tens of thousands of Anasazi would travel
   at times of power (Solstices, Equinoxes, eclipses,
   etc.) to revere power. 
   
   Enjoy. If you liked the clip about the Mayans, you'll
   like this one about their more Northern counterparts.
  
 





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.


Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?

The macro/micro trend distinction. 

Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
climatologists.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/18/2011 09:20 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johntjohnlasher20002000@
  wrote:
  What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony
  are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with
  subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is
  not a matter of you doing my homework asking you (Judy) to
  write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate that with
  such a serious threat to millions neither you nor most people
  would be willing to approach the holocaust in that manner.
 
  I think what you are saying is that you had a full blown
  hissy fit.
 
  Exactly. With a drama queen tiara on top.
 
  But that applies only to johnt, of course, not to, say,
  Bhairitu:
 
  The Republicans are pulling a robbery on Americans. And we
  have these fools who probably don't even earn much more than
  $50k a year supporting them!
 
  That's because Bhairitu is no longer a TMer, but johnt still
  is. So Bhairitu gets a pass, while johnt must be put down and
  piled onto.
 
 Perhaps if Judy would have just replied to johnt, I think
 the author was being facetious then there wouldn't be an
 issue.

Non sequitur. The above is about Barry's hypocrisy, a 
different issue entirely.

But addressing your comment on its own terms: You weren't
following the thread. feste explained to johnt that it was
satire before I ever spoke up; then when he didn't get it,
I explained it to him again, very politely. He still didn't
get it. Only at that point did I tweak him a bit.

 Instead Judy had to make johnt look like a fool. But Judy
 has this bad habit of doing this a lot the time.

As if you didn't!

I don't do it unless the person is both wrong *and* arrogant.

 So she invites reprisal (which we can assume she is
 looking for).

What are you, nuts?? There wasn't any reprisal here. Go
back to the beginning and read through the thread.

Once johnt realized the guy who wrote the article wasn't
seriously suggesting old people be left to die to save
the country money, our only disagreement was about
whether cutting Medicare and Medicaid was a suitable
topic for satire.

 We know that both Judy and Turq probably don't want to 
 see senior citizens starving on the streets because they 
 are ones themselves.  Judy has already stated that in one
 reply.

Don't know about Barry, but I wouldn't want to see senior
citizens starving on the street even if I were still a
teenager. As it happens, I'm fortunate that I'm unlikely
to have to worry about my own situation in any case. But
unlike Barry, I don't have any problem with folks
expressing alarm at the prospect of cutbacks to the safety
net. I think we should *all* be alarmed.

 I think Judy often misses the point that such articles are
 there to wake people up to what *could* actually happen if
 we let these selfish thugs run the government.

Yeah, that's right, Bhairitu believes I'm a conservative.

Tell us, please, what you believe I *do* think such articles
are there for. That should be good for even more of a laugh
than what you've written so far.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Not Satire eliminate the old and disabled Judy

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


Bhairitu:
 Always notice that the Republicans say 
 raise taxes as if they mean raise taxes 
 on everyone not just people earning 
 $250,000 or more a year. 
 
Well, I'd vote for a flat tax that everyone
could pay. I'm against payroll taxation on
general principles, but I'd be willing to
pay my fair share. 

Everyone knows that when you increase taxes 
there is actually less revenue coming in 
because of the many tax loopholes.

Can you give me one good reason that some
people should pay more in payroll taxes
than others pay? 

That doesn't sound American to me because 
we're all supposed to be equal under the 
U.S. Constitution.

 You fools are being had.

You are the one still living out in 
California! 

The income tax in California is 9.5%, plus
your federal income tax. Looks like you're 
being had - there is no state income tax 
in Texas. The combined federal tax rate on 
income of $60,000, then, is actually 18.5%
in California on earnings over $34,500.00.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah, I thought about that after I wrote it. Shouldn't have specified an 
amount. Thanks for the correction. Hopefully it breaks soon. When I was in NC 
it went from a string of high 100's to 76 the next day.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  I just went through this back East. Drink LOTS of water and liquids - a 
  gallon a day. Crank the AC. If outside and you stop sweating, see a doctor. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   Heat index is 110 here at the moment, and climbing.
  
 
 
 Too much water can kill you.  One to two liters a day depending on your body 
 mass is plenty.





[FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Hey, Barry
  
  Your link doesn't work for me.  
 
 Then look up the title on YouTube. Duh.

Heaven forbid Barry go the trouble of checking his own
link:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright
claim by the Solstice Project. Duh.

  Anyway, I read somewhere 
  that the Anasazi culture disappeared because they had to 
  move out of their location due to drought.
  
  This was also the same theory for the demise of the Mayan 
  civilization.
 
 This theory was discarded years ago, because no one can
 find any archeological evidence of a drought or famine,
 which is fairly easily detectable. The prevailing theory
 these days (although they keep it under their hats because
 it would so fuck the tourist industry) is that one of the
 factors of their demise was cannibalism.

Yeah, they keep it so well hidden under their hats that
it's discussed in the Wikipedia article on the Anasazi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Pueblo_Peoples#Warfare_and_cannibalism

http://tinyurl.com/63wg89a

 The current theory

There are quite a few current theories, and a lot of
dispute about them.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


  Heat index is 110 here at the moment, 
  and climbing.
  
raunchydog: 
 Too much water can kill you. One to two 
 liters a day depending on your body mass 
 is plenty.

Right, too much DHMO can kill you! Several 
years ago we got a good warning about that 
stuff being used in the TM puja up in
Fairfield - very dangerous according to
several informants.



[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Landau
Maharishi's Sandals
When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi’s sandals came 
from him to me.  They were his exclusive pair for many years.

They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike Love’s 
place in Santa Barbara.  MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then and Maharishi 
was staying there.  Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the time, found a rock and 
hammered the nails of the strap back in.  Maharishi then wore them to 
Seelisburg the first time we visited.  When we left for Switzerland, Anthony 
stayed behind, and I soon became skin boy.

In Maharishi’s small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped on blank 
sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet.  I then cut them out 
and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.

In due course, his new sandals arrived.  In that same meeting room, Maharishi 
put them on and asked if they looked too big.  The few of us there said, “No.”  
When he left the room to go to bed, he left his old sandals where they stood.  
That night, I did, as well.  When I went in the next morning, they were still 
standing in the middle of the room.  I realized that he either didn’t care what 
happened to them or was purposefully leaving them for me.  Needless to say, I 
didn’t throw them away.

In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and 
molecules have been entrained in it.  And, of course, in India, they would be 
holy objects to be revered.  I have kept them very well protected and have 
handled them very little over the decades.

At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I was planning 
to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to attempt to sell them.  
I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have the wherewithal 
and will to honor their value.  As 108 for over four years, I spent around 
$100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week (when not 
rounding).  As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a month so as not to be a 
financial drain on the movement, and paid all our own travel (and sometimes 
other) expenses.  Small amounts will not be considered.

Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.

Please forward or copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and 
interested.

Thank you,

Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning
 
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.
 
 
 Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?
 
 The macro/micro trend distinction. 
 
 Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
 climatologists.

I thought their point was that it could be consistent with the theory in 
response to idiots on Fox news who claimed it proved the opposite.  But these 
small trends in weather are not the proof on either end. 

The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is 
what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate 
is how the atmosphere behaves over relatively long periods of time. (taken 
from some sciency looking site.)

I realize that I may be preaching to the choir here, and you may know much more 
about the science supporting climate change than I do.  But I believe this 
distinction is important because weather variations don't prove or disprove of 
climate change.  













RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:23 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
 On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.
 
 
 Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?
 
 The macro/micro trend distinction. 
 
 Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
 climatologists.

I thought their point was that it could be consistent with the theory in
response to idiots on Fox news who claimed it proved the opposite. But these
small trends in weather are not the proof on either end. 

The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is
what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and
climate is how the atmosphere behaves over relatively long periods of
time. (taken from some sciency looking site.)

I realize that I may be preaching to the choir here, and you may know much
more about the science supporting climate change than I do. But I believe
this distinction is important because weather variations don't prove or
disprove of climate change. 

I read an article a while back stating that climatologists are agreeing more
and more that all the weird weather we've been having is indeed linked to
global warming. Here's a good link:
http://energy.nationaljournal.com/2011/07/extreme-weather-and-climate-ch.php

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
snip
 I read an article a while back stating that climatologists
 are agreeing more and more that all the weird weather we've
 been having is indeed linked to global warming. Here's a
 good link:
 http://energy.nationaljournal.com/2011/07/extreme-weather-and-climate-ch.php

As I understand it, the key words are extreme and frequency.
One predicted effect of climate change is an increasing frequency
of extreme weather events. That does appear to be what we've been
seeing, but it's not a slam-dunk (as distinct from very likely)
that it's because of climate change. It's not inconceivable that
there could be other reasons for the greater frequency of extreme 
events.

The issue is, how sure do we have to be that climate change is
causing the increased frequency of extreme weather before we
start taking measures to stop, or at least slow, the change?
Or--since change may already be irreversible--to take measures
to mitigate the effects of extreme weather (as well as all the
other effects of climate change)?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Fight against the FDA's ridiculous supplement regulation

2011-07-18 Thread metoostill


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/18/2011 08:19 AM, metoostill wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostillmetoostill@
  wrote:
  More to the point many inner circle re-certified TM teachers living in
  FF and out of town have recently suffered devastating lead poisoning
  from visits to the much praised Raju's clinic in India where they were
  treated to ayur-vedic pills and potions. There have been enough
  extremely serious cases in FF that the University of Iowa has offered to
  test free for heavy metals anyone who brings a sample of herbs from
  india to protect the public health. Does anyone else know more of the
  details?
  I don't doubt what you are saying, but can you name one?
  I am an old timer and several of my old time best friends who still 
  maintain the TMO code of silence and work in the company are involved, 
  but I heard this also from my kids who are old MSAE grads.  I just looked 
  on FF Life to get any detail I didn't have.  Apparently Raju is horrified 
  and afraid he'll loose his American meal ticket (with good reason), and has 
  tracked the problem to one of his pill and herb suppliers.  Lead poisoning 
  that caused serious symptoms that drove several to the hospital after home 
  in IA, where lead was pinpointed as the problem, in blood concentration 
  that pins the dial when measured, and then tested for and discovered in 
  mega amounts in the Raju ayur-vedic medicines.  Yes the FDA can be 
  obstructive but yes the FDA plays a valuable role at other times.  This 
  might have been one where their involvement would have been to our benefit.
 
 Go back and read my original post.  I *said* that supplement 
 manufacturers would like some regulations.  That would have insured 
 against such tainted goods.  The problem is not the FDA but the greedy 
 pharmaceutical companies wanting the supplement market for themselves. 
 It is important to understand the term pull the ladder up regulation.  
 This is how big companies unfairly eliminate competition.  And big 
 pharma has given us things like Vioxx.  Big pharma has killed more 
 people than tainted ayurvedic products ever have.

You make a fair point and perhaps I strayed off your intended topic.  Stream of 
consciousness.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-18 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 Did you and Ravi (are you there?) engage in this more dedicated
 practice of TM?
 No like I said I didn't engage in any advanced practices. IME the result
 does not seem to be proportional to the effort

Which effort is that?

L.




[FairfieldLife] Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread Bill Coop
Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.

Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 sq.
ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.

MUM professor Robert Schneider
http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story
Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime
environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a
master architect.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote:

 Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.
 
 Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
 Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 sq.
 ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.
 
 MUM professor Robert Schneider
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
 The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story
 Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime
 environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a
 master architect.


Nice!   I may wish to buy this one though: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hog2warts.jpg



Re: [FairfieldLife] Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Bill Coop wrote:

 Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.
 
 Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
 Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 sq. 
 ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.

They're asking $720,000, taxes are $7956.00,
and they will accept cash (which is big of them).
It's a steal.


 MUM professor Robert Schneider
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
 The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story 
 Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime 
 environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a 
 master architect.

For this one, they're asking $385,000, taxes are $5224.00,
and they'll *only* accept cash.  Anybody got a spare $385,000
laying around?  

Take a look at the pictures~~these have got to be two of the 
ugliest houses in creation.  What were the owners thinking~~
what were the architects thinking?  It's a new style: Neo-Nazi
Lite.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-18 Thread William Parkinson
Actually scholars in this area know all of these names. However, in practical 
terms, the only name we really interact with from time to time is Origen. So, 
for example, if one wanted to look at the nascent Alexandrian  Christianity one 
would look at these names: Apollo, the authorr of Hebrews (which many 
speculate was Apollo), Philo (who was Jewish), Clement, and to a lesser degree 
Tertullian, and Origen, to name but a few. Depending on the question in hand 
they might also have to interact with the Gnostic finds at Nag Hammadi or at 
Oxyrhyncus. We must do so to trace certain traditions which are recorded in 
these works. 
Cheers
Bill

From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul


  
To bad for you. 
You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that
followed him until Justinian closed the academy. 
No wonder you don't believe in this stuff.……
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson ameradian2@... wrote:

 Now I understand!! Well, my own expertise runs from 200 B.C.E. to 200 C.E.. 
 My concentration and my doctoral program was in Early Christianity, Second 
 Temple Judaism, and to a lesser degree Greco-Roman mystery cults (in 
 particular, Mithras and Hekete). Once we get beyond 200 C.E., I fear I will 
 be a precious little use. But certainly anything anyone wants to discuss I 
 would be open to chiming in if I felt like anything worthwhile to add.  What 
 did you have in mind?
 Cheers
 Bill
 
 From: Bob Price bobpriced@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul
 
 
   
 Bill,
  
 I was using AD (Anno Domini) interchangeably with CE (common or Christian 
 era). The period I'm hoping to start a new discussion on is 31/32 
 C.E. (death of Jesus) to May 22, 337 C.E. (death of Constantine). 
  
 When Robin returned some excellent serves from a number of FFL posters the 
 focus was the 13th centuryand 1943 (I believe the 1943 reference concerned 
 the bombing by the Allies of the Benedictine Monastery at Mount Cassino).
  
 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,796392,00.html
 
 From: William Parkinson ameradian2@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:36:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul
 
 
   
 Bob did you mean 37C.E.? I have never heard of a 337C.E. date. Is that what 
 you meant?
 Cheers
 Bill
 
 From: Bob Price bobpriced@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:17 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul
 
 
   
 1 Corinthians 13
 American Standard Version (ASV)
  
  1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am 
 become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
  2And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all 
 knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not 
 love, I am nothing.
  3And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be 
 burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
  4Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not 
 itself, is not puffed up,
  5doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, 
 taketh not account of evil;
  6rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
  7beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all 
 things.
  8Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done 
 away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, 
 it shall be done away.
  9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
  10but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be 
 done away.
  11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a 
 child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
  12For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in 
 part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
  13But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these 
 is love.
  




[FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread feste37
I wonder why they're selling. Are they leaving Vedic City, perhaps?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote:

 Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.
 
 Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
 Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 sq.
 ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.
 
 MUM professor Robert Schneider
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
 The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story
 Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime
 environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a
 master architect.





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2011-07-18 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread wayback71

So, are they downsizing or do they have early notification that things are 
going to shut down in the TMO presence in Fairfield?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Bill Coop wrote:
 
  Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.
  
  Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
  http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
  Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 
  sq. ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.
 
 They're asking $720,000, taxes are $7956.00,
 and they will accept cash (which is big of them).
 It's a steal.
 
 
  MUM professor Robert Schneider
  http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
  The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story 
  Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime 
  environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a 
  master architect.
 
 For this one, they're asking $385,000, taxes are $5224.00,
 and they'll *only* accept cash.  Anybody got a spare $385,000
 laying around?  
 
 Take a look at the pictures~~these have got to be two of the 
 ugliest houses in creation.  What were the owners thinking~~
 what were the architects thinking?  It's a new style: Neo-Nazi
 Lite.
 
 Sal





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:22 PM, wayback71 wrote:

 So, are they downsizing or do they have early notification that things are 
 going to shut down in the TMO presence in Fairfield?

Haven't a clue.  I really know these guys by name
only.  I've never been part of their social circle,
so to speak.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote:

 Two TMO stalwarts have their MSV homes on the market.
 
 Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N173093,-N,-A,-N0
 Elegance and grandeur grace the halls of this 5-bedroom, 4.5 bath, 4341 sq.
 ft. stately mansion... MSV design by Dr. Eike Hartmann.
 
 MUM professor Robert Schneider
 http://fairfieldmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll?APPNAME=IastPRGNAME=MLSPropertyDetailARGUMENTS=-N503278945,-N166026,-N,-A,-N0
 The Bow of Rama graces the front door of this 4 bedroom, 2 bath, one-story
 Maharishi Sthapatya Veda(SM) design masterpiece ... A royal and sublime
 environment is generated in this house designed by Sturla Sighvatsson, a
 master architect.

Is the weather Vedic too?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.


I see Professor Rick is doing research again, (god help us all).





[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread wgm4u
How do you intend to authenticate them, your word?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 Maharishi's Sandals
 When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi's sandals 
 came from him to me.  They were his exclusive pair for many years.
 
 They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike Love's 
 place in Santa Barbara.  MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then and 
 Maharishi was staying there.  Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the time, found 
 a rock and hammered the nails of the strap back in.  Maharishi then wore them 
 to Seelisburg the first time we visited.  When we left for Switzerland, 
 Anthony stayed behind, and I soon became skin boy.
 
 In Maharishi's small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped on 
 blank sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet.  I then cut 
 them out and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.
 
 In due course, his new sandals arrived.  In that same meeting room, Maharishi 
 put them on and asked if they looked too big.  The few of us there said, 
 No.  When he left the room to go to bed, he left his old sandals where they 
 stood.  That night, I did, as well.  When I went in the next morning, they 
 were still standing in the middle of the room.  I realized that he either 
 didn't care what happened to them or was purposefully leaving them for me.  
 Needless to say, I didn't throw them away.
 
 In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and 
 molecules have been entrained in it.  And, of course, in India, they would be 
 holy objects to be revered.  I have kept them very well protected and have 
 handled them very little over the decades.
 
 At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I was 
 planning to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to attempt to 
 sell them.  I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have the 
 wherewithal and will to honor their value.  As 108 for over four years, I 
 spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week 
 (when not rounding).  As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a month so as not 
 to be a financial drain on the movement, and paid all our own travel (and 
 sometimes other) expenses.  Small amounts will not be considered.
 
 Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.
 
 Please forward or copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and 
 interested.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com





Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mystery of Chaco Canyon (wasRe: Ancient Maya Tools of Astronomy)

2011-07-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 18, 2011, at 3:05 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

 This theory was discarded years ago, because no one can
 find any archeological evidence of a drought or famine,
 which is fairly easily detectable. The prevailing theory
 these days (although they keep it under their hats because
 it would so fuck the tourist industry) is that one of the
 factors of their demise was cannibalism.

Well, it's possible it could have contributed to the 
demise of the Anasazi, but it's a little tough to 
believe it was in any major way.  Not unless the 
cannibals had really big appetites.  I'm pretty
sure that if that went on, it was a result of 
desperation, not a cause of it.

 The current
 theory is that a bunch of badass Indians from Mexico
 and Central or South America migrated northward to Chaco
 and, being both militaristic and cannibalistic, brought
 their ways to a previously peaceful society and took it
 over. There is sadly some archeological evidence for 
 this theory.

Well, Jared Diamond's theory, after extensive
research, is that what felled their society is pretty
much what fells most~~resource mismanagement 
(in this case water)
and deforestation.  Not nearly as colorful as badass
cannibals, but there you have it.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Homes for sale

2011-07-18 Thread richardjwilliamstexas


Sal Sunshine : 
 Take a look at the pictures~~these have got to 
 be two of the ugliest houses in creation.  What 
 were the owners thinking~~what were the architects 
 thinking?  It's a new style: Neo-Nazi Lite.
 
Obviously you're prejudiced against Indians, but the 
one reminds me of Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. 

http://www.monticello.org/

You've got to admit, it would be a step up from 
living in a trailer down in 'Utopia Park'. LoL!






[FairfieldLife] Sukhothai Park

2011-07-18 Thread Yifu
Thailand
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/39034.jpg



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-18 Thread William Parkinson
Hi Bhairitu. What is the JyotishList all about?
Cheers
Bill

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras


  
On 07/14/2011 10:43 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
 You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years
 different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should
 have
 use the ng ending or the m ending. They have slightly different
 effects as far as resonance patterns go. And Indians given their
 nature will argue passionately over this, making the arguments on FFL
 look very wimpy (I'm sure Ravi will agree).

 Bhairitu - I have to plead ignorance in spite of being born a Brahmin,
 you and others seem to be more well versed and yeah lot of Indians for
 sure. However give me some Sanskrit slokas and I will chant it
 perfectly, comes naturally to me.

I wasn't talking about the knowledge but how Indians love to argue. 
They really went at it on one forum over the ng and m endings. And just 
wander over to the JyotishList on Yahoo. There is often a brawl going 
on there. ;-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Landau
For those who never saw them in person, they're in all the old photos.  And 
there are many who were in the movement, including Rick, who knew/know me.  I 
could never fabricate such a thing.  They're authentic and have been in my 
possession for these 38 or so years, though I suppose there will always be 
those who will disbelieve.  Who could authenticate them, and how?  Perhaps one 
of the others who were in the room one of those two nights would come forward, 
though that would be amazing to me.  I certainly don't remember who was there.  
Of course I have pictures of me carrying the skin, but that doesn't 
authenticate them, either.  Those who know will know, those who don't, won't.

On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:59 PM, wgm4u wrote:

 How do you intend to authenticate them, your word?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Maharishi's Sandals
  When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi's sandals 
  came from him to me. They were his exclusive pair for many years.
  
  They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike Love's 
  place in Santa Barbara. MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then and 
  Maharishi was staying there. Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the time, found 
  a rock and hammered the nails of the strap back in. Maharishi then wore 
  them to Seelisburg the first time we visited. When we left for Switzerland, 
  Anthony stayed behind, and I soon became skin boy.
  
  In Maharishi's small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped on 
  blank sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet. I then cut 
  them out and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.
  
  In due course, his new sandals arrived. In that same meeting room, 
  Maharishi put them on and asked if they looked too big. The few of us there 
  said, No. When he left the room to go to bed, he left his old sandals 
  where they stood. That night, I did, as well. When I went in the next 
  morning, they were still standing in the middle of the room. I realized 
  that he either didn't care what happened to them or was purposefully 
  leaving them for me. Needless to say, I didn't throw them away.
  
  In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and 
  molecules have been entrained in it. And, of course, in India, they would 
  be holy objects to be revered. I have kept them very well protected and 
  have handled them very little over the decades.
  
  At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job. I was 
  planning to work into my seventies. My predicament forces me to attempt to 
  sell them. I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have 
  the wherewithal and will to honor their value. As 108 for over four years, 
  I spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week 
  (when not rounding). As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a month so as 
  not to be a financial drain on the movement, and paid all our own travel 
  (and sometimes other) expenses. Small amounts will not be considered.
  
  Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.
  
  Please forward or copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and 
  interested.
  
  Thank you,
  
  Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com
 
 
 



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mark Landau
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:40 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

 

  

For those who never saw them in person, they're in all the old photos.  And
there are many who were in the movement, including Rick, who knew/know me.
I could never fabricate such a thing.  They're authentic and have been in my
possession for these 38 or so years, though I suppose there will always be
those who will disbelieve.  Who could authenticate them, and how?  Perhaps
one of the others who were in the room one of those two nights would come
forward, though that would be amazing to me.  I certainly don't remember who
was there.  Of course I have pictures of me carrying the skin, but that
doesn't authenticate them, either.  Those who know will know, those who
don't, won't.

I initiated Mark. I haven't seen a photo of the sandals he has in his
possession, but I believe Mark's story, and I'm sure I saw the sandals Mark
possesses on Maharishi's feet many times.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 For those who never saw them in person, they're in all the old photos.  And 
 there are many who were in the movement, including Rick, who knew/know me.  I 
 could never fabricate such a thing.  They're authentic and have been in my 
 possession for these 38 or so years, though I suppose there will always be 
 those who will disbelieve.  Who could authenticate them, and how?  Perhaps 
 one of the others who were in the room one of those two nights would come 
 forward, though that would be amazing to me.  I certainly don't remember who 
 was there.  Of course I have pictures of me carrying the skin, but that 
 doesn't authenticate them, either.  Those who know will know, those who 
 don't, won't.
 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:59 PM, wgm4u wrote:
 
  How do you intend to authenticate them, your word?
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Maharishi's Sandals
   When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi's sandals 
   came from him to me. They were his exclusive pair for many years.
   
   They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike 
   Love's place in Santa Barbara. MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then 
   and Maharishi was staying there. Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the time, 
   found a rock and hammered the nails of the strap back in. Maharishi then 
   wore them to Seelisburg the first time we visited. When we left for 
   Switzerland, Anthony stayed behind, and I soon became skin boy.
   
   In Maharishi's small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped on 
   blank sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet. I then 
   cut them out and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.
   
   In due course, his new sandals arrived. In that same meeting room, 
   Maharishi put them on and asked if they looked too big. The few of us 
   there said, No. When he left the room to go to bed, he left his old 
   sandals where they stood. That night, I did, as well. When I went in the 
   next morning, they were still standing in the middle of the room. I 
   realized that he either didn't care what happened to them or was 
   purposefully leaving them for me. Needless to say, I didn't throw them 
   away.
   
   In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms 
   and molecules have been entrained in it. And, of course, in India, they 
   would be holy objects to be revered. I have kept them very well protected 
   and have handled them very little over the decades.
   
   At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job. I was 
   planning to work into my seventies. My predicament forces me to attempt 
   to sell them. I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will 
   have the wherewithal and will to honor their value. As 108 for over four 
   years, I spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven 
   days a week (when not rounding). As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a 
   month so as not to be a financial drain on the movement, and paid all 
   our own travel (and sometimes other) expenses. Small amounts will not be 
   considered.
   
   Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the 
   movement.
   
   Please forward or copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and 
   interested.
   
   Thank you,
   
   Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com
  
Nice to hear this story, Mark.  I hope you can find a buyer - I would think 
that within the TMO there are several people with the means to pay a decent 
price for such precious objects.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Landau
On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:49 PM, wayback71 wrote:
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  For those who never saw them in person, they're in all the old photos. And 
  there are many who were in the movement, including Rick, who knew/know me. 
  I could never fabricate such a thing. They're authentic and have been in my 
  possession for these 38 or so years, though I suppose there will always be 
  those who will disbelieve. Who could authenticate them, and how? Perhaps 
  one of the others who were in the room one of those two nights would come 
  forward, though that would be amazing to me. I certainly don't remember who 
  was there. Of course I have pictures of me carrying the skin, but that 
  doesn't authenticate them, either. Those who know will know, those who 
  don't, won't.
  
  On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:59 PM, wgm4u wrote:
  
   How do you intend to authenticate them, your word?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
   
Maharishi's Sandals
When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi's 
sandals came from him to me. They were his exclusive pair for many 
years.

They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike 
Love's place in Santa Barbara. MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then 
and Maharishi was staying there. Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the 
time, found a rock and hammered the nails of the strap back in. 
Maharishi then wore them to Seelisburg the first time we visited. When 
we left for Switzerland, Anthony stayed behind, and I soon became skin 
boy.

In Maharishi's small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped 
on blank sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet. I 
then cut them out and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.

In due course, his new sandals arrived. In that same meeting room, 
Maharishi put them on and asked if they looked too big. The few of us 
there said, No. When he left the room to go to bed, he left his old 
sandals where they stood. That night, I did, as well. When I went in 
the next morning, they were still standing in the middle of the room. I 
realized that he either didn't care what happened to them or was 
purposefully leaving them for me. Needless to say, I didn't throw them 
away.

In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms 
and molecules have been entrained in it. And, of course, in India, they 
would be holy objects to be revered. I have kept them very well 
protected and have handled them very little over the decades.

At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job. I was 
planning to work into my seventies. My predicament forces me to attempt 
to sell them. I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will 
have the wherewithal and will to honor their value. As 108 for over 
four years, I spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much 
seven days a week (when not rounding). As 108s, we weren't paid, paid 
$1000 a month so as not to be a financial drain on the movement, and 
paid all our own travel (and sometimes other) expenses. Small amounts 
will not be considered.

Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the 
movement.

Please forward or copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and 
interested.

Thank you,

Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com
   
 Nice to hear this story, Mark. I hope you can find a buyer - I would think 
 that within the TMO there are several people with the means to pay a decent 
 price for such precious objects.
 Thank you, w, yes, one would think, if the right party finds out...
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you, Rick

On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mark Landau
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:40 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
 
  
 
  
 
 For those who never saw them in person, they're in all the old photos.  And 
 there are many who were in the movement, including Rick, who knew/know me.  I 
 could never fabricate such a thing.  They're authentic and have been in my 
 possession for these 38 or so years, though I suppose there will always be 
 those who will disbelieve.  Who could authenticate them, and how?  Perhaps 
 one of the others who were in the room one of those two nights would come 
 forward, though that would be amazing to me.  I certainly don't remember who 
 was there.  Of course I have pictures of me carrying the skin, but that 
 doesn't authenticate them, either.  Those who know will know, those who 
 don't, won't.
 
 I initiated Mark. I haven’t seen a photo of the sandals he has in his 
 possession, but I believe Mark’s story, and I’m sure I saw the sandals Mark 
 possesses on Maharishi’s feet many times.
 
  
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher, accused of sexism, rips Palin, Bachman, and Jesus

2011-07-18 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
 Clever rant - reminds me I need to watch him more often. He nails
ideas so beautifully.
.
  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sar\
ah-palin_n_900994.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bill-maher-michele-bachmann-sa\
rah-palin_n_900994.html


I mentioned this last time.  It's sort of the same thing you see with
conservatives.  Whatever the celebrity or personality says the audience
just laps it up.  For whatever reason it just sort of grates on me. 
Seems like a lot of clever phrases designed to get a laugh (for which he
is guranteed), but I'm not sure what else.



[FairfieldLife] Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
Sort of sums up what I've been saying for awhile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D71aiYq7jeM

And Bucky Fuller said it 50 years ago.  The establishment will just not 
relinquish control so that humanity can move forward.  They'd rather go 
down like a sinking ship.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 18, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Mark Landau wrote:
 At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I was 
 planning to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to attempt to 
 sell them.  I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have the 
 wherewithal and will to honor their value.  As 108 for over four years, I 
 spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week 
 (when not rounding).  As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a month so as not 
 to be a financial drain on the movement, and paid all our own travel (and 
 sometimes other) expenses.  Small amounts will not be considered.
 
 Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.
 
Mark, this sounds familiar.  Didn't you try 

selling them here a few years back?  Did 

you ever try the suggestions about ebay?  Sorry
to hear you're in such dire circumstances, but I 
am failing to see what the sale of the sandals, even
if they were to bring in, say, $1000,  is going to do
for you in the long run, not to mention that 
trying to sell MMY memorabilia on a forum filled with
disillusioned former TMers is a serious losing battle.
  You're 65?  Then you're eligible
for SS.  You don't say what your predicament is, 
but there are various programs in most states for seniors on
fixed incomes, or no income.  

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fight against the FDA's ridiculous supplement regulation

2011-07-18 Thread seventhray1


Not really related but,  several years ago, I had a torn miniscus.  They
of course wanted to do orthoscopic surgery to remove the cartilidge.  I
never got around to scheduling it, and in the meantime continued to play
softball, and after one particular game, I noticed that the symptoms had
disappeared, and have never returned.  Now, a couple weeks ago, I
developed severe tendenities in my upper arm - pain that would not go
away.  The Dr. prescribed some medicine which really wasn't doing much
good.  Then yesterday, I was doing a lot of yard work, (in preperation
for going on vacation), and it seemed to have the effect  of greatly
alleviating the tendenitis.  Just an observation.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/18/2011 08:19 AM, metoostill wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, metoostillmetoostill@
  wrote:
  More to the point many inner circle re-certified TM teachers
living in
  FF and out of town have recently suffered devastating lead
poisoning
  from visits to the much praised Raju's clinic in India where they
were
  treated to ayur-vedic pills and potions. There have been enough
  extremely serious cases in FF that the University of Iowa has
offered to
  test free for heavy metals anyone who brings a sample of herbs from
  india to protect the public health. Does anyone else know more of
the
  details?
  I don't doubt what you are saying, but can you name one?
  I am an old timer and several of my old time best friends who still
maintain the TMO code of silence and work in the company are involved,
but I heard this also from my kids who are old MSAE grads. I just looked
on FF Life to get any detail I didn't have. Apparently Raju is horrified
and afraid he'll loose his American meal ticket (with good reason), and
has tracked the problem to one of his pill and herb suppliers. Lead
poisoning that caused serious symptoms that drove several to the
hospital after home in IA, where lead was pinpointed as the problem, in
blood concentration that pins the dial when measured, and then tested
for and discovered in mega amounts in the Raju ayur-vedic medicines.
Yes the FDA can be obstructive but yes the FDA plays a valuable role at
other times. This might have been one where their involvement would have
been to our benefit.

 Go back and read my original post. I *said* that supplement
 manufacturers would like some regulations. That would have insured
 against such tainted goods. The problem is not the FDA but the greedy
 pharmaceutical companies wanting the supplement market for themselves.
 It is important to understand the term pull the ladder up
regulation.
 This is how big companies unfairly eliminate competition. And big
 pharma has given us things like Vioxx. Big pharma has killed more
 people than tainted ayurvedic products ever have.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread emptybill

… not to mention that trying to sell MMY memorabilia on a forum
filled with disillusioned former TMers is a serious losing battle.

So can we get some honest self-disclosure here?

How many disillusioned former TMers exist here on the forum?


Who still even assumes they can fit in such a category?

Come on … `fess up.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
wrote:

 On Jul 18, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Mark Landau wrote:
  At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I
was planning to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to
attempt to sell them.  I am hoping that the person they are meant to go
to will have the wherewithal and will to honor their value.  As 108 for
over four years, I spent around $100K working for the movement pretty
much seven days a week (when not rounding).  As 108s, we weren't paid,
paid $1000 a month so as not to be a financial drain on the movement,
and paid all our own travel (and sometimes other) expenses.  Small
amounts will not be considered.
 
  Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the
movement.
 
 Mark, this sounds familiar.  Didn't you try

 selling them here a few years back?  Did

 you ever try the suggestions about ebay?  Sorry
 to hear you're in such dire circumstances, but I
 am failing to see what the sale of the sandals, even
 if they were to bring in, say, $1000,  is going to do
 for you in the long run, not to mention that
 trying to sell MMY memorabilia on a forum filled with
 disillusioned former TMers is a serious losing battle.
   You're 65?  Then you're eligible
 for SS.  You don't say what your predicament is,
 but there are various programs in most states for seniors on
 fixed incomes, or no income.

 Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Sandals

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you, Sal.  My main reason for posting it here is in the hopes that 
readers might know appropriate people and let them know.
No, I never tried to sell them here.  They were featured in David Wants To Fly, 
if anyone saw that.
To me, for these, $1,000 is one of those small amounts I wouldn't consider.
Do you really think anyone would be searching ebay for a pair of M's sandals?  
Perhaps I don't understand how ebay works.
My age group is eligible for full retirement at 66.  The more years I wait, the 
more I would get per month.
I hope to secure another job, but could very much use a significant influx of 
cash in the not too distant future...
I hope not to have to resort to state sponsored programs, but one never knows...

On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Mark Landau wrote:
 
 At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I was 
 planning to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to attempt to 
 sell them.  I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have 
 the wherewithal and will to honor their value.  As 108 for over four years, 
 I spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week 
 (when not rounding).  As 108s, we weren't paid, paid $1000 a month so as 
 not to be a financial drain on the movement, and paid all our own travel 
 (and sometimes other) expenses.  Small amounts will not be considered.
 
 Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.
 
 Mark, this sounds familiar.  Didn't you try 
 
 selling them here a few years back?  Did 
 
 you ever try the suggestions about ebay?  Sorry
 to hear you're in such dire circumstances, but I 
 am failing to see what the sale of the sandals, even
 if they were to bring in, say, $1000,  is going to do
 for you in the long run, not to mention that 
 trying to sell MMY memorabilia on a forum filled with
 disillusioned former TMers is a serious losing battle.
   You're 65?  Then you're eligible
 for SS.  You don't say what your predicament is, 
 but there are various programs in most states for seniors on
 fixed incomes, or no income.  
 
 Sal
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make this kinda stuff up dept.

2011-07-18 Thread seventhray1

I mean the old testament is kind of messed up.  But the new  testament? 
It seems kind of cool.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
wrote:

 I enjoy finding that stuff in the Bible sometimes. In a code of sorts,
that clarity unlocks. Someone oughta rewrite The Book to make stuff like
that more evident. Probably wouldn't sell though.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Rick Archer
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:21 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias Corp, you can't make
this
  kinda stuff up dept.
 
 
 
 
 
  Kinda looks like a homeless guy to me.
 
  But then Jesus was homeless: Foxes have holes and birds of the air
have
  nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. - Luke 9:58
 
  Cool verse, that. To me, he's talking about not being locked into
conceptual
  boundaries or limited perspectives.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread seventhray1

  Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.
 

 Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?

 The macro/micro trend distinction.

 Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
 climatologists.

Surprise!


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