[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > "I feel so ineffectually effing effeminate." > > I feel mostly like skin with hair on top and some stuff inside the skin. Its > alive.:-) * * Yes, I was just entertaining another of my I-particles for awhile. NOW it's alive! Unconditional loving acceptance and the light of I AM tickle my rejected inertia into Laughter :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
"I feel so ineffectually effing effeminate." I feel mostly like skin with hair on top and some stuff inside the skin. Its alive.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I'm trying to emulate Tom's unconditional hatred, it's tough but > > I'll learn - I wish I was born with it like him, he makes it look so > > easy, effacing, effervescent, effortless. > > > * * Yeah, by contrast I feel so ineffectually effing effeminate. Apparently > the best I can do is some puny tacit aggressive (sic) wordplay. If only we > were real he-men, we could let that unconditional hatred rip. Sic Semper > Tyrannis! Om Tamo Namaha! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I'm trying to emulate Tom's unconditional hatred, it's tough but > > I'll learn - I wish I was born with it like him, he makes it look so > > easy, effacing, effervescent, effortless. > > > * * Yeah, by contrast I feel so ineffectually effing effeminate. Apparently > the best I can do is some puny tacit aggressive (sic) wordplay. If only we > were real he-men, we could let that unconditional hatred rip. Sic Semper > Tyrannis! Om Tamo Namaha! Oops, that probably should be in the dative -- Om Tamaya Namaha! HA! Wow. I feel better already :-)
[FairfieldLife] Warren's "dirty" secret?
He invests like a girl?? http://www.amazon.com/Warren-Buffett-Invests-Like-Girl/dp/0061567558
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Yeah, I'm trying to emulate Tom's unconditional hatred, it's tough but > I'll learn - I wish I was born with it like him, he makes it look so > easy, effacing, effervescent, effortless. * * Yeah, by contrast I feel so ineffectually effing effeminate. Apparently the best I can do is some puny tacit aggressive (sic) wordplay. If only we were real he-men, we could let that unconditional hatred rip. Sic Semper Tyrannis! Om Tamo Namaha!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Mark is so certain of some things. No room any other interpretation about some things, as subjective as they may seem. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Jim, love it. But seriously Mark was a lucky guy to have been in > immediate proximity to M and I'm sure M enjoyed the beauty of "hell" > :-) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" whynotnow7@ > wrote: > > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to > air travel..." > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant > wouldn't agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > and, finally > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a > lot of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our > section. He turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within > Brahman, I had been wondering what that feels like to experience - > clearly doing one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in > a context of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already > filtering us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like > Nothing in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which > states of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't > contain us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - > it was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have > withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some > form of our Love, and which we have been unconsciously withholding... > which is pretty much the same technique as the first one, only stated > slightly differently :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > rumor has it that Tom, bless his heart err.. hatred, called > > the nurse who delivered him as a whore as soon as he was born. > > > Now this is insulting in high style. Old school insulting the way it > ought to be. Tom Pall insulting even. Kudos > Yeah, I'm trying to emulate Tom's unconditional hatred, it's tough but I'll learn - I wish I was born with it like him, he makes it look so easy, effacing, effervescent, effortless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: rumor has it that Tom, bless his heart err.. hatred, called > the nurse who delivered him as a whore as soon as he was born. Now this is insulting in high style. Old school insulting the way it ought to be. Tom Pall insulting even. Kudos
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
Hang in there Robin. We love you. You have spawned some of the best dialogue we've had here in ages. You've brought out really good stuff in Curtis and Mark, among others. I admit I usually can't get past more than a few lines of your posts, but I often pick the main points on the reply. But I will say, that when I pick them up on the rebound, the contrast is really striking. Reading the reply interleaved with your comments, I can't help but feel that you are a little wrapped up in yourself. But no matter, I could be mistaken. And of course, anyone who lays it all down like you do runs the risk of getting stepped on. Tom can be pretty good at that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: > > > > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:16 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > That occurred to me too~~reprisals. > > > Altho I kind of doubt it. Seems Judy has > > > her hands more than full keeping you > > > and Curtis in line. :) I do think she got > > > away with it though, for whatever > > > reason. > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > What do you have to say, what do you have to defend that takes > 50 posts a > > week. BTW, I wouldn't care if the limit were raised to 200. Judy, Judy, > > Judy is easy to filter out when she gets polemic or defensive (OK, that's 40 > > posts a week) and so are Barry's many paragraph raps. As I expected, the > > flamer RC flamed out, just like Ravi and Rory did before him. > > > > If you don't feel that Barry's raps are worth it and don't take all that > > well to Judy's polemics and defensiveness, well, why bother reading past the > > first line? Why bother considering? Why bother defending? The reason I > > like a limit has nothing to do with RC, Barry or Judy. There seems to be no > > one here who remembers the time years ago when Dr. Pete and Rudra Joe were > > using FFL like it was Yahoo IM or Tweeter. That was stupid and Rick was > > asleep at the wheel as usual (except for his filter that makes sirens go off > > and lights flash in his house when his name is mentioned in a post). Oh. I > > forgot. Rick is just the enabler of this forum. Unless the time comes when > > he wants to post something someone's sent him that says when he himself > > doesn't want to get caught saying. > > Dear Tom, > > You're hurting me, Tom. And I just have to say something. That accusation, that my posts amount to little more than pages and pages of non-sequitors, that kind of destroyed my confidence. > > Are you sure you meant to judge me this harshly? Because, as down as I am because of your judgment of me (everyone somewhere believes in their bad reviews more than they do in their good ones), I don't want to go so far as from liking myself (my pre-Tom Pall era) to hating myself (where I am headed now after reading your putdowns). > > You are restricting your criticism to my writing style and the coherence of my arguments, correct? > > You were not being personal, as in: You are a loser, Robin. > > Because if it's deeper than this (more than just the way I write and argue), then I think it only natural that I should take a serious inventory of myselfand do my best to reach the same conclusions you have. > > No, Tom, I really think you have misjudged me, and I'd like an apology. > > By the way, is there something I could do which would take me out of the line of your fire? > > I dearly would like to make an enemy a friend. > > You there, Tommy baby? > > Robin > > P.S. It's only because of you that I've "flamed out"wouldn't you do the same if someone took your measure as honestly as you have taken mine? > I just didn't know they could hate like this in Texas. Just know this, Tom: I still love you. I know you are beautiful somewhere inside, no matter what. > We Canadiansyou obviously don't know this about uswe tend to overcompensate, because we are, as Marshall McLuhan said, the only country that exists without an identity. Believe me, Tom, you've done me good. It's just that I wouldn't want any of the readers at FFL to form the same opinion of me (or my writing) as you have. > This, as you can understand, has got me worried. So I have written this second personal letter to you in the hopes that my sincerity has won you over. > Is that too much to hope for, sweet man? > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
* * Yes, I suppose it's worth a shot, though I suppose if it actually worked some bigots might make fun of one for being a little light in the loafers, or at least a friend of Dorothy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I say give it a shot - how can you resist such a thing? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, > > > traditionally to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels > > > together: > > > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, > > I would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless > > you wish to end up in Kansas! > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Free airfare! Too bad Dorothy didn't come from Maui! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally > > to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I > would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you > wish to end up in Kansas! >
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http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/nature/files//home/wnetwp/webroot/wnet/wp-content/blogs.dir/3/files/2009/03/3-kushi.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
I say give it a shot - how can you resist such a thing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally > > to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I > would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you > wish to end up in Kansas! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
Well, even giving Vaj every benefit of the doubt, using the analogy for him of a fine sports car, say the Lamborghini Countach (V12, tops out at 214 mph), slamming that puppy into reverse (the aforementioned retardation) at that speed is going to cause issues, to say the least. Then forget about just popping it back into gear for any forward progress; as the Buddhists say, the *transmission* is toast. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Well regardless of his motivations Vaj is a much maligned person and I > plan to correct this misperception. His excellence at retardedness is > unmatched, really his record here speaks for himself. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > Ravi, > > > > > > Forget all this. His is a case of ordinary jealousy and envy. > > > > No anguish there just resentment. > > > > .. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your > mother's > > knee," you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my > > question? > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is > one > > of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories > of > > monks sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to > project > > their pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your experience Ravi and your obligatory Ad > > Hominem. You sound like you need a hug! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for admitting that you are indeed a retard, not that I didn't > > sincerely believe you were one - I think your ongoing commitment to > > prove it day in and day out is quite admirable. Add to it honesty, wow > I > > bow down to you Vaj. You are a hero to any other retard out there > > looking to avoid themselves. Proud to have you here at FFL, my job > > becomes so easier, all I do is point at you instead of trying paint > one > > theoretically to others. Thanks again, much love. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the antiquated > final "a" of "thahara", thus: > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally to > be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice is > reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or "sacred > heart" of one's homeland. > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you wish to end up in Kansas!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Ha Ha! Must be about keeping the sandals. I am really glad you are doing that. Seriously that was a gutsy move, under the circumstances. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Gee, that *would* be spectacular. Do I really want to go through that again? > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 2:57 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > > > Good stuff Mark - Now you just have to wait for your crown chakra to > > explode like a fountain, splattering bliss and light in every direction, > > blinding you with love, binding your head and heart in warm bliss, and > > taking over your mind, your identity.:-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully > > > > > > identified with a given particle, believing the program, and then > > > > > > by remembering it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we > > > > > > break our identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting > > > > > > the particle in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving > > > > > > attention on it as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it > > > > > > that. This moves the particle into G.C., and then into Unity with > > > > > > us as it aligns itself more and more with our love. And then the > > > > > > next particle arises, and the fun begins all over again! And so we > > > > > > are forced to recall again and again that we are not limited, and > > > > > > we can give our particles literally anything they need. > > > > > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into > > > > > my "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give > > > > the wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As > > > > we commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it > > > > comes to feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our > > > > thoughts, and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire > > > > Universe). > > > > > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would > > > > >come in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and > > > > >do what neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I > > > > >guess you would equate these with our good inner children and, of > > > > >course, if we are beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, > > > > >then it's all Us, we are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our > > > > healing devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > > > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd > > > share it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > > > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I > > > began by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each > > > thing whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory > > > wouldn't think so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up > > > expanded and reunited with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my > > > bodymind equalling all that is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, > > > not as styrofoam pellets but, indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an > > > oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean points))... There were, however, some > > > significantly larger entities that had distinct qualities and appearances > > > and could occupy as much as, let's say, one-thirtieth of my entire > > > mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa and another a little > > > like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple thick fins and more > > > a lighter silvery gray. From an I-particle/singularity/point perspective, > > > I would imagine such a titanically huge thing to be absolutely > > > terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, inconceivable, really. But, > > > as loving God of all the universe, I simply treated them likewise and > > > they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a while of this, things to > > > heal began to diminish and something else began to happen. I became aware > > > of something large that occupied the lower half of my torso. At first it > > > somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I soon realized > > > it was like a c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's sovereignty"
Mine voted for itI tried to contact once...but my topic at the time wasn't in the approved list of topics on the website. I received an automatic reply that had nothing to do with my topic, as I remember. I kind of gave up. Yes, our electives are supposed to represent us...and some of them still do. I am going to take some time to fit meditation into my day for one month and see if I can notice a difference (no it won't be TM or IAM...I'm not doing anything that is traded for a fee and deemed "secret" from those who don't pay) I don't want to go back to how I was living and am not at all clear on how to morph my life into something else. I am going to take a break from reading all the interesting posts here..taking up a lot of time and with school and the kids and everything elseI'm not present enough. --- On Mon, 8/1/11, Bhairitu wrote: From: Bhairitu Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's sovereignty" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 8:27 PM We elect representatives so we can go about out lives and not have to spend time babysitting them to make them represent us. My representative, George Miller, voted against. How did yours do? http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/690 I sent him and my two senators email asking them to vote against. At least my representatives are in the 21st century, have a contact form on their sites so I don't have to call. So people think that calling is more effective for some reason. But I actually got an email back once from Senator Feinstein. On 08/01/2011 07:43 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > This was really interestingit's nice to have one's ego validated...in the > sense that my opinion always was that, as a country, we should never have let > the financial industry off the hook. I think Kaiser makes some excellent > points. > Remember listening to the bank CEO's testify in front of Congress...it still > floors me that we didn't take to the streets on that...similar to how it > floors me that we didn't take to the streets on the WMD argument. And now, we > let the financial/corporate thieves off again. > I, of course, was working 60 hours a week and didn't have time and was still > earning a paycheck - just like a baby with its pacifier. Reality is starting > to hit, but I am trusting in God and spending my savings and have stock to > sell so it hasn't really hit yet. I think most are still in denial. I am > still. > This is an article that raises a few of these "no tax" issues re: Boeing and > Microsoft. > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2015778608_danny31.html > > > --- On Sun, 7/31/11, Bhairitu wrote: > > From: Bhairitu > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's > sovereignty" > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Great overview by Max Keiser: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHKjKi_LZc > > > > "Only in America will you find a population who is willing to go out > > into the streets and fight for oligarchs." > > "This is unique to America because in America everyone thinks they are > > one lottery ticket away from being a billionaire." > > > > We seem to have a few of those fools on FFL. > > > > Of course given that Moody's just said that nothing the US government > > does will help, the party's over way over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you mean? > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > Define molesting.. I understand that none of these women were married, underage, or forced? In fact, they were invited to MMY's room in the wee hours of the morning/late at night? > > L > Lawson - why this childish insistence on facts and reason. Vaj don't answer his questions, just continue to indulge in your insinuating innuendo.
[FairfieldLife] New batteries for your I-phone
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[FairfieldLife] Charles Manson as hitchhiker
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
scratches arm, builds scale 747 out of toothpicks, you're welcome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > smiles and laughs, thanks > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 2:23 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to air > > travel..." > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant wouldn't > > agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > and, finally > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > > > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a lot > > > of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our section. He > > > turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within Brahman, I > > > > > had been wondering what that feels like to experience - clearly doing > > > > > one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in a context > > > > > of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already filtering > > > > us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like Nothing > > > > in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which states > > > > of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't contain > > > > us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > > > > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > > > > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > > > > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > > > > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > > > > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - it > > > > > was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > > > > > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot > > > > > of fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to > > > > > my core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how > > > > > much I tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became > > > > > my CC prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > > > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > > > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like > > > > a standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > > > > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a > > > > quality which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We > > > > have withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a > > > > subtle or not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some form of > > > > our Love, and which we have been unconsciously withholding... which is > > > > pretty much the same technique as the first one, only stated slightly > > > > differently :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's sovereignty"
We elect representatives so we can go about out lives and not have to spend time babysitting them to make them represent us. My representative, George Miller, voted against. How did yours do? http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/690 I sent him and my two senators email asking them to vote against. At least my representatives are in the 21st century, have a contact form on their sites so I don't have to call. So people think that calling is more effective for some reason. But I actually got an email back once from Senator Feinstein. On 08/01/2011 07:43 PM, Denise Evans wrote: > This was really interestingit's nice to have one's ego validated...in the > sense that my opinion always was that, as a country, we should never have let > the financial industry off the hook. I think Kaiser makes some excellent > points. > Remember listening to the bank CEO's testify in front of Congress...it still > floors me that we didn't take to the streets on that...similar to how it > floors me that we didn't take to the streets on the WMD argument. And now, we > let the financial/corporate thieves off again. > I, of course, was working 60 hours a week and didn't have time and was still > earning a paycheck - just like a baby with its pacifier. Reality is starting > to hit, but I am trusting in God and spending my savings and have stock to > sell so it hasn't really hit yet. I think most are still in denial. I am > still. > This is an article that raises a few of these "no tax" issues re: Boeing and > Microsoft. > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2015778608_danny31.html > > > --- On Sun, 7/31/11, Bhairitu wrote: > > From: Bhairitu > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's > sovereignty" > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Great overview by Max Keiser: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHKjKi_LZc > > > > "Only in America will you find a population who is willing to go out > > into the streets and fight for oligarchs." > > "This is unique to America because in America everyone thinks they are > > one lottery ticket away from being a billionaire." > > > > We seem to have a few of those fools on FFL. > > > > Of course given that Moody's just said that nothing the US government > > does will help, the party's over way over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
Well regardless of his motivations Vaj is a much maligned person and I plan to correct this misperception. His excellence at retardedness is unmatched, really his record here speaks for himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Ravi, > > > Forget all this. His is a case of ordinary jealousy and envy. > > No anguish there just resentment. > > .. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's > knee," you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my > question? > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one > of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories of > monks sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to project > their pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your experience Ravi and your obligatory Ad > Hominem. You sound like you need a hug! > > > > > > > Thanks for admitting that you are indeed a retard, not that I didn't > sincerely believe you were one - I think your ongoing commitment to > prove it day in and day out is quite admirable. Add to it honesty, wow I > bow down to you Vaj. You are a hero to any other retard out there > looking to avoid themselves. Proud to have you here at FFL, my job > becomes so easier, all I do is point at you instead of trying paint one > theoretically to others. Thanks again, much love. > > >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MEDITATION : A WAY TO APPROACH GOD.
Hey - all I can say is Noor's a really hot chick, mind sharing your experiences with her rather than all these idiotic copy and paste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tariq Aziz wrote: > > > > > > > > GOD IS LOVE AND LOVE IS PRECIOUS > Different Religions - Different Methodologies - Destination is same > Learn Spirituality to recognize and approach GOD, whatever religion you belong to > All religions agree upon this that through meditation, it is possible to connect to > GOD. There are different ways in different religions but the aim is same. It is > respectable to call GOD, no matter you call HIM by any name viz GOD, JESUS, RAM, > BHAGWAN or ALLAH. > Superior to religions is the "LOVE OF GOD", which is the essence of all religions > whereas the Light of God is an illuminating guide in the way. > According to the saying of Hazrat Imam Jafar Bin Sadiq a.s. "KNOWLEDGE IS POINT > WHICH HAS BEEN SPREADED BY SCHOLARS". And the point is LOVE. > The methods of Meditation is given below which is simple and shortest and is the > practice of JUST 7 DAYS. The people belonging to all religions can exercise it by the > name of their GODs, keeping in mind "THE CREATOR" the one and only ONE, who > created the whole universe and us. > Dear friends, > Try your luck by exercising the methods outlined in the Message just for 7 days > and this will awaken your "LATIF-E-QALB" (a spiritual entity), and it start chanting > out "Creators" name (ALLAH HU) which will produce Divine energy(NOOR) in your > heart. This is not only for muslims, people of other religion can exercise, keeping > in mind "THE CREATOR" the one and only "ONE" who created the universe and us. > In the attached file message is also availble in URDU. If you feel to know further > please visit www.asiinternationals.com. > THE METHODS OF PRODUCING LIGHT(NOOR) > NO MATTER ANY RELIGION - ALLAH(GOD) IS FOR EVERY ONE > In prehistoric times stones would be rubbed together to make fire. Whereas a spark can also be > produced by rubbing two metals together. In a similar way electricity is made from water. Similarly by the > friction of the blood inside the human body, in other words electric energy is produced by the vibrating > heartbeat. In every human being there is present, approximately one and a half volts of electricity due to > which the body is energetic. As the heartbeat slows in old age, this reduces the electricity in the body > and this in turn also causes a reduction of the energy level in the body. > Firstly, the heartbeat has to be made vibrant and pronounced. Some do this by dancing, some by sports > and exercise and some people try to do this by meditating and chanting the Name of God Allah. > When the heartbeat becomes vibrant and pronounced then by chanting the name of "Allah" try to > synchronize it with every heartbeat. Alternatively try to synchronize "Allah" with one heartbeat and Hu > with the other. Some time by placing your hand on the heart and when you feel your heartbeat, again > try to synchronize the Name "Allah" by chanting it with the rhythm of the heartbeat and imagine that the > Name "Allah" is entering the heart. > The chanting of" Allah Hu" is better and more effective but if anyone has an objection,or a fear of chanting > Hu, then instead of being deprived one should solely use the name Allah,repetitively in the chanting. It is > beneficial for people who chant and practice this discipline and who read mantras to physically remain > as clean as possible as the: > "disrespectful are unfulfilled and the respectful and fulfilled." > THE FIRST METHOD OF PRODUCING LIGHT: Write "Allah" onapaperinblackink66 > times and do this exervise for as long as you wish on a daily basis. Soon thereafter, the Word Allah > will be transported from the paper and hover over the eyes. Then with one-pointed concentration, > attempt to transport the word from the eyes to the heart. > THE SECOND METHOD OF PRODUCING LIGHT Write "Allah"on a zero watt bulb, in > yellow. Whilst you are awake or just before sleep, concentrate and try to absorb it into the eyes. When > it appears on the eyes then try to transport it to the heart. > THE THIRD METHOD OF PRODUCING LIGHT This method is for those people who > have perfect spiritual guides and teachers and who due to their spiritual connection are spiritually > assisted by them. Sit alone and imagine that your index finger is a pen. Using your finger and with your > concentration,attempt to write Allah on your heart. Call upon your spiritual teacher (spiritually), so that > he too may, hold your finger, and write "Allah" on your heart. Continue to do this exercise ever
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's sovereignty"
This was really interestingit's nice to have one's ego validated...in the sense that my opinion always was that, as a country, we should never have let the financial industry off the hook. I think Kaiser makes some excellent points. Remember listening to the bank CEO's testify in front of Congress...it still floors me that we didn't take to the streets on that...similar to how it floors me that we didn't take to the streets on the WMD argument. And now, we let the financial/corporate thieves off again. I, of course, was working 60 hours a week and didn't have time and was still earning a paycheck - just like a baby with its pacifier. Reality is starting to hit, but I am trusting in God and spending my savings and have stock to sell so it hasn't really hit yet. I think most are still in denial. I am still. This is an article that raises a few of these "no tax" issues re: Boeing and Microsoft. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2015778608_danny31.html --- On Sun, 7/31/11, Bhairitu wrote: From: Bhairitu Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser "America will lose it's sovereignty" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:32 PM Great overview by Max Keiser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHKjKi_LZc "Only in America will you find a population who is willing to go out into the streets and fight for oligarchs." "This is unique to America because in America everyone thinks they are one lottery ticket away from being a billionaire." We seem to have a few of those fools on FFL. Of course given that Moody's just said that nothing the US government does will help, the party's over way over.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Raise your hands and step away from the conversation"
turquoiseb: > Things Curtis said earlier left me pondering > (a good thing) my reluctance to get involved > in long, philosophical conversations... > 1064 words is short? LoL!!! > ...I've been on forums like this one for > some years. Not sure if deserves to be called a discussion forum! http://groups.google.com/group/alt.buddha.short.fat.guy/ "I'm looking for some kind of feedback device that will assist me in maintaining mindfulness. I don't want to spend more than two hundred fifty US Dollars. Anybody know of such a gadget?"
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > RoryGoff: > > I was once given the mantra > > "OM Iswara thahara tis,"... > > > Mariska Hargitay! > * * Ha! In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: "OM Iswara thahaar tis, OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or "sacred heart" of one's homeland.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, Judy, come on, play the game,
Duveyoung: > Hey, Judy, come on, play the game... > So, how do you know her name is "Judy"?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
> > "OM Iswara thahara tis" > > emptybill: > This sounds Indonesian... > Pak Subud.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
RoryGoff: > I was once given the mantra > "OM Iswara thahara tis,"... > Mariska Hargitay!
[FairfieldLife] Iguazu Falls, Brazil
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Thank you, noah, for these kind words. On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:37 PM, noah wrote: > > What an experience. How wonderful!! I know you are not in book-writing mode, > but I hope you keep these posts and make some notes about your life > experiences with MMY and on your own. They feel natural to you, but really > could inspire others. And you write about them with an ease and simplicity > that is nice indeed to read. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully > > > > > identified with a given particle, believing the program, and then by > > > > > remembering it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we > > > > > break our identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting > > > > > the particle in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving > > > > > attention on it as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it > > > > > that. This moves the particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us > > > > > as it aligns itself more and more with our love. And then the next > > > > > particle arises, and the fun begins all over again! And so we are > > > > > forced to recall again and again that we are not limited, and we can > > > > > give our particles literally anything they need. > > > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give > > > the wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As > > > we commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it > > > comes to feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our > > > thoughts, and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire > > > Universe). > > > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would > > > >come in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do > > > >what neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess > > > >you would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if > > > >we are beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all > > > >Us, we are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our > > > healing devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't > > think so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and > > reunited with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling > > all that is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam > > pellets but, indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by > > singularities, I mean points))... There were, however, some significantly > > larger entities that had distinct qualities and appearances and could > > occupy as much as, let's say, one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One > > looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa and another a little like a stealth > > bomber, though consisting of multiple thick fins and more a lighter silvery > > gray. From an I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine > > such a titanically huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and > > totally unhealable, inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the > > universe, I simply treated them likewise and they soon > > expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a while of this, things to heal began > > to diminish and something else began to happen. I became aware of something > > large that occupied the lower half of my torso. At first it somehow seemed > > associated with my alimentary canal, but I soon realized it was like a > > cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, and it broke through the > > confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up towards my head. Though I > > didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it became clear to me that > > that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one might say, > > kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Thank you, Ravi, yes, I'm hardening again, more loth to part with them, especially for a pittance. On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > Beautiful post Mark, love the reference to Ramayana's story on Bharata ruling > the kingdom with Rama's sandals. May be there is a significance in you having > those sandals for all these years and all this drama with you trying to sell > it. Existence works in mysterious ways. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully > > > > > identified with a given particle, believing the program, and then by > > > > > remembering it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we > > > > > break our identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting > > > > > the particle in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving > > > > > attention on it as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it > > > > > that. This moves the particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us > > > > > as it aligns itself more and more with our love. And then the next > > > > > particle arises, and the fun begins all over again! And so we are > > > > > forced to recall again and again that we are not limited, and we can > > > > > give our particles literally anything they need. > > > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give > > > the wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As > > > we commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it > > > comes to feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our > > > thoughts, and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire > > > Universe). > > > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would > > > >come in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do > > > >what neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess > > > >you would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if > > > >we are beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all > > > >Us, we are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our > > > healing devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't > > think so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and > > reunited with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling > > all that is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam > > pellets but, indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by > > singularities, I mean points))... There were, however, some significantly > > larger entities that had distinct qualities and appearances and could > > occupy as much as, let's say, one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One > > looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa and another a little like a stealth > > bomber, though consisting of multiple thick fins and more a lighter silvery > > gray. From an I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine > > such a titanically huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and > > totally unhealable, inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the > > universe, I simply treated them likewise and they soon > > expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a while of this, things to heal began > > to diminish and something else began to happen. I became aware of something > > large that occupied the lower half of my torso. At first it somehow seemed > > associated with my alimentary canal, but I soon realized it was like a > > cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, and it broke through the > > confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up towards my head. Though I > > didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it became clear to me that > > that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one might say, > > kundalini/Adi-
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Gee, that *would* be spectacular. Do I really want to go through that again? On Aug 1, 2011, at 2:57 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > Good stuff Mark - Now you just have to wait for your crown chakra to explode > like a fountain, splattering bliss and light in every direction, blinding you > with love, binding your head and heart in warm bliss, and taking over your > mind, your identity.:-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully > > > > > identified with a given particle, believing the program, and then by > > > > > remembering it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we > > > > > break our identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting > > > > > the particle in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving > > > > > attention on it as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it > > > > > that. This moves the particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us > > > > > as it aligns itself more and more with our love. And then the next > > > > > particle arises, and the fun begins all over again! And so we are > > > > > forced to recall again and again that we are not limited, and we can > > > > > give our particles literally anything they need. > > > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give > > > the wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As > > > we commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it > > > comes to feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our > > > thoughts, and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire > > > Universe). > > > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would > > > >come in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do > > > >what neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess > > > >you would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if > > > >we are beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all > > > >Us, we are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our > > > healing devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't > > think so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and > > reunited with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling > > all that is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam > > pellets but, indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by > > singularities, I mean points))... There were, however, some significantly > > larger entities that had distinct qualities and appearances and could > > occupy as much as, let's say, one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One > > looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa and another a little like a stealth > > bomber, though consisting of multiple thick fins and more a lighter silvery > > gray. From an I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine > > such a titanically huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and > > totally unhealable, inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the > > universe, I simply treated them likewise and they soon > > expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a while of this, things to heal began > > to diminish and something else began to happen. I became aware of something > > large that occupied the lower half of my torso. At first it somehow seemed > > associated with my alimentary canal, but I soon realized it was like a > > cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, and it broke through the > > confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up towards my head. Though I > > didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it became clear to me that > > that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one might say, > > kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown c
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
> > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western > > > babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > > Maybe so - your guru Trungpa, didn't have a problem with > > it, but the Sakyong Mipham is married to a Tibetan lady. > Vaq: > I am an admirer though. Go figure, huh? > So, you admire Trungpa molesting young western women but not Mahesh? So, how did Trungpa wind up with a son born in Tibet, when Trungpa was married in Scotland to Lady Diana Mukpo? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
unless you are a Brahmin, thats absolute not Maharishi's teaching. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > not for women or householders > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > ����������������������������� > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > > using > > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
not for women or householders --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > ����������������������������� > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation
Sahaj" uses just one mantra, which if you feel you are in a quiet mind you can stop using, even if you realize it is not there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > The Power of Mantra > > > > > > Contrary to > > public misinformation, techniques like Transcendental Meditation or Sahaj > > Samadhi are not based on repetition. They utilize a much subtler science. > > > > Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively the same? > The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both? Anyone here > taught both? -B > > > > > > > vibrations of consciousness." Mantra carries the mind to the silence that > > was there before God said, "Let there be light." > > > > In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind, tra - > > vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons carry > > electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to its source." > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
Ravi, " because it provides a convenient excuse to project their pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex" Forget all this. His is a case of ordinary jealousy and envy. No anguish there just resentment. .. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > > > > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > > > > > > > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories of monks sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to project their pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex. > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your experience Ravi and your obligatory Ad Hominem. You sound like you need a hug! > > > > Thanks for admitting that you are indeed a retard, not that I didn't sincerely believe you were one - I think your ongoing commitment to prove it day in and day out is quite admirable. Add to it honesty, wow I bow down to you Vaj. You are a hero to any other retard out there looking to avoid themselves. Proud to have you here at FFL, my job becomes so easier, all I do is point at you instead of trying paint one theoretically to others. Thanks again, much love. >
[FairfieldLife] Rowing to Doha-Scene 11-(was conflict in fiction)
The VW pulls up to the front of "Deja Moo-Internet Cafe" and our travellers pile out of the gas filled van. Inside the cafe our three Trekkie's head to the toilet with a duffie while T. Paul orders an espresso and a hubbly bubbly pipe. Terry and the Zebra pull up a chair in front of a computer screen. Terry opens "compose message" in his FFL account and writes, deletes and then writes again in the subject line. "When is a thought an idea?' delete "Are all my thoughts ideas?" delete The Zebra whispers in Terry ear. "Is God an idea?" delete Again the Zebra whispers in Terry's ear. "What is Wally's password?" send We hear the the Trekkies emerge from the bathroom. They have changes their camouflage for Dhoti's and white tee shirts with various messages on the front. Shankar's reads: "Excessive hugging is not the same as sexual harassment, I should know." Wally's reads: "Better plastic than no enlightenment at all." NN's reads: "If you won't get checked, at least see a doctor". Terry notices a response to his post and opens it: "A-DA T.Paul "Into the van ladies, we're heading to Al Jazeera." The VW drives up Khalifa Street and turns into Wadi Al Sail West where the Al Jazeera Network compound is located. The van pulls up to the entrance of the complex and is greeted by a man in a grey suit. Everyone jumps out of the van. MAN IN GREY SUIT. "Welcome to Qatar gentleman, and welcome to Al Jazeera, his highness is waiting to meet you." WALLY "Did he mean his holiness?" NN "No you idiot, he's talking about a member of the ruling family." SHANKAR "It's a monarchy, that's why Maharishi sent us here to get their help to eliminate democracy and ensure the purity of the teaching for all time." Note: in case you've been wondering what happened to Scene 6, the Sharmadum locked on to Dick Bowman's house, in that Iowa cornfield, with a tractor beam and one assumes towed it to Qatar. As the travellers head into the complex, like clockwork, the voice that has called more than a billion of the faithful: "Lā ilāha illallāh"
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you > > mean? > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the > missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > Define molesting.. I understand that none of these women were married, underage, or forced? In fact, they were invited to MMY's room in the wee hours of the morning/late at night? L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
all of the below to Jim, hence my love of transparency, though I liked it before M, too to Ravi, if you only knew... to Rory, yes, indeed, but do you mind running that infra-red/ultra-violet thing by me again? I really didn't get it the first time. On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > And infraredi-whipped. The full range of existence. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Based on Mark's posts it seems more like ultra-violated. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > I suspect after any close proximity to Maharishi for a number of hours, > > > one would feel as if x-rayed.:-) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > Jim, love it. But seriously Mark was a lucky guy to have been in > > > > immediate proximity to M and I'm sure M enjoyed the beauty of "hell" > > > > :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > > > > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > > > > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > > > > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > > > > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > > > > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to > > > > air travel..." > > > > > > > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant > > > > wouldn't agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > > > > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > > > > > > > and, finally > > > > > > > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > > > > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a > > > > lot of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our > > > > section. He turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within > > > > Brahman, I had been wondering what that feels like to experience - > > > > clearly doing one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in > > > > a context of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already > > > > filtering us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like > > > > Nothing in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which > > > > states of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't > > > > contain us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > > > > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > > > > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > > > > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > > > > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > > > > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - > > > > it was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > > > > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > > > > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > > > > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > > > > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > > > > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > > > > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > > > > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > > > > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have > > > > withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > > > > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the bei
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:10 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Of course, the only research on TM they cite in that book is from 25 years > > ago, so one assumes that they are also quoting the descriptions of pure > > consciousness in the research done 25 years ago. > > > Not true Lawson, they used research up to 2004! And they used what little was > needed and of decent quality. It doesn't take volumes to show what the > relaxation response occurring in TM looks like. I think your problem is you > let yourself be wowed that something special is happening. Real > neuroscientists aren't as easily fooled. > > They can do all the research they want and fudge all the data they want: we > already know what is. > http://www.mbcttrainingen.nl/Resources/Meditation%20and%20Neuroscience.pdf They cite a theoretical paper by Travis and Wallace from 2004, and a book on the EEG of meditation published in 1987. Everything else is older than that. My point still stands: the studies cited are from 25 years ago. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously > > will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is > > the heart in THAT?) > > Heart? I'm sitting here in my SS uniform, butching it up, and throwing my > weight around on FFL. I have no use for all that mushy heart stuff. If I > don't become a burly, hee-man, master of the universe, my life has no value > at all, and it's just too damn bad if your posting gets cut in half as a > result of my quest for what's *truly* important. > * * Alex, you Schatzi Nazi! In one fellacious swoop you confirm TP's most brutal reflection -- er, projection...err, *insight* -- yeah, that's the ticket! -- *and* manage to cut my flaming bullshit in half (an a posteriori image for posterity). TP will be so gratified and shatisfied, his labor reduced by half! You big bully, you, you're worse than Lincoln. Your tyrannical aggression may leave me no choice but to take all my slaves -- why they're like family you know, they can't take care of themselves, and besides I guarantee we'll be phasing out slavery soon, sometime in the next century or two, about the same time we stop using illegal immigrant labor -- and go home. Nothing sucks seeds like secession! You can't squash the butternut! Don't tread on the copperhead! Et cetera ad nauseam!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:10 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Of course, the only research on TM they cite in that book is from 25 years > > ago, so one assumes that they are also quoting the descriptions of pure > > consciousness in the research done 25 years ago. > > > Not true Lawson, they used research up to 2004! And they used what little was > needed and of decent quality. It doesn't take volumes to show what the > relaxation response occurring in TM looks like. I think your problem is you > let yourself be wowed that something special is happening. Real > neuroscientists aren't as easily fooled. > Perhaps I am mistaken. The only research on TM I saw cited was from the 1980's. > They can do all the research they want and fudge all the data they want: we > already know what is. > So, you're confident that all TM researchers are liars... L.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Yes, I like this better (this more coincides with my experience) On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:34 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > Giving this "soul-engendered" idea a little more thought, Mark, perhaps it > would be more accurate to say "soul-revealed" -- as in, when Spirit and > Matter separate to form a gap at birth and at death, they *reveal* the > separate Soul as an intermediary between the two. So we could just as easily > say the Soul is always present as the substrate of experience, but prior to > birth and after "Brahman" or "Awakening" it is not operating as a separate "I > AM" place-holder between the Absolute (Spirit) and Relative (Matter). > > > >>RG: We see this because at the model's beginning in conception, as the > > >>egg is fertilized, Absolute Spirit and Relative Matter are completely > > >>merged, and they progressively separate across our chakras (actually > > >>parting ways at birth, where a third element, radiant Soul, arises at our > > >>midpoint, our Solar Plexus, to occupy the gap between Spirit and Matter) > > >>until they are completely polarized in transcendental being (at which > > >>point the separate Soul has expanded to occupy all 9 chakras, while > > >>Spirit has retreated to our crown and Matter has retreated to our feet). > > >>They then begin to approach each other again from transcendental > > >>consciousness through Brahman (where they overlap our Solar-plexus again, > > >>extinguishing our identification with a personal separate Soul) through > > >>post-Brahmanic transcendence, where they are fully merged as they were at > > >>conception. But then over the final 9 states they separate again (finally > > >>parting at death, where a radiant personal Soul is again engendered, > > >>exactly as at birth, but on another turn of the spiral: in bliss as > > >>opposed to being), to become fully polarized at dissolution, where the > > >>separate Soul has become as all-inclusive as possible. > > > > > > ML: The soul engendered? This sounds like RC. IME the soul is always there > > throughout all lives and in between times, it doesn't manifest and > > unmanifest, though of course it does evolve and transform in ways that > > might not be inconsistent with what you describe. I think of it as the aura > > or field of the causal body, the seed body that contains all the data from > > all the incarnations and continues on from life to life and, in this model, > > must "go somewhere" between lives till it inserts itself in the new body of > > the next incarnation. > > > > RG: Yes, that has certainly been my perception too. And doubtless, the > > model falls short of Reality, as any model must! Nonetheless, *something* > > dissolves upon Awakening, and it appears to be the Soul-identity of > > separation (re)acquired at birth, that which is measured by our birth-chart > > -- which Awakening makes one "Brahman," twice-born, or perhaps once born, > > once unborn is more accurate. And the re-engendering of our separate Soul > > at death is something I have also perceived -- that death is or can be > > simply an ecstatic rebirth of our soul or Solar Angel. It is important too > > to distinguish Soul from Spirit; I do know that the terms are often > > confused or even transposed across traditions. Personally, until Awakening, > > I had no idea what Spirit actually was, as until then it had always been > > mediated through my Soul :-) > > > * * > >
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
smiles and laughs, thanks On Aug 1, 2011, at 2:23 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your I-pod, > Maharishi-ji" > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to air > travel..." > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant wouldn't > agree to dinner after the flight?" > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > and, finally > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed anyone > > to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a lot of people > > were smoking throughout the plane, including in our section. He turned to > > me and said, "This is hell." > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within Brahman, I had > > > > been wondering what that feels like to experience - clearly doing one > > > > of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in a context of > > > > inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already filtering > > > us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like Nothing in > > > particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which states of > > > consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't contain us; we > > > contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the Understanding that > > > being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and the IS provides an > > > arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) of consciousness > > > might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant in our body, and > > > which we provide by attending or not-attending in the requisite degree to > > > the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - it was > > > > one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, guy > > > > putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > > > > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > > > > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > > > > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > > > > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > > > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like a > > > CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > > > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have withheld > > > our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > > > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some form of > > > our Love, and which we have been unconsciously withholding... which is > > > pretty much the same technique as the first one, only stated slightly > > > differently :-) > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Kesey Rides Again
This sounds like fun: Film Hitches a Weird Ride on Kesey's Bus By CHARLES McGRATH "Magic Trip: Ken Kesey's Search for a Kool Place," a film by Alex Gibney and Alison Ellwood that opens on Friday, is an exercise in what they call "archival vérité." It's a documentary that uses old footage to recreate a documentary that Kesey intended to make about his 1964 cross-country bus trip the one so memorably chronicled in Tom Wolfe's account, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test." Read more (colorful article): http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/01/movies/magic-trip-reconstructs-footage-from-ken-keseys-bus-trip.html?pagewanted=print http://tinyurl.com/3etqvbj
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Om by itself is useful to pacify vata (probably why it is added in the first place. By itself it would be an adjunct mantra that you would only use when vata is deranged though you can also use Ram for the same purpose. On 08/01/2011 02:48 PM, emptybill wrote: > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > … > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... >>> So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... >>> Just what I heard... >> Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using >> mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. >> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] E8 Lie group chakra
http://www.aimath.org/E8/images/e8.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation
> > The Power of Mantra > > > Contrary to > public misinformation, techniques like Transcendental Meditation or Sahaj > Samadhi are not based on repetition. They utilize a much subtler science. > Om, so are Transcendental Meditation and Sahaj Samadhi effectively the same? The similar practice? Just wondering. Anyone learned both? Anyone here taught both? -B > vibrations of consciousness." Mantra carries the mind to the silence that > was there before God said, "Let there be light." > > In Sanskrit, mantra means vehicle for the mind: manas - mind, tra - > vehicle. Tra is the root of our English suffix, tron. Electrons carry > electricity. Positrons carry positivity. Mantras carry mind to its source." >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
"OM Iswara thahara tis" This sounds Indonesian. I thought they were all Muslims. Except for the East Timors where they are Christians. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > Right. I was once given the mantra "OM Iswara thahara tis," and it works beautifully for me as a householder. (I find it really hits home if you sound it out in your heart a number of times quickly.) > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is the heart in THAT?) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > > using > > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously > will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is > the heart in THAT?) Heart? I'm sitting here in my SS uniform, butching it up, and throwing my weight around on FFL. I have no use for all that mushy heart stuff. If I don't become a burly, hee-man, master of the universe, my life has no value at all, and it's just too damn bad if your posting gets cut in half as a result of my quest for what's *truly* important.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
Willy Trungpa wasn't his guru because he doesn't have a guru. Freemasonry/Golden Dawn/Aleister Crowley - take your pick. He just reads this stuff and makes up the rest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at > > > your mother's knee," you mean? > > > > Vaj: > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western > > babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > Maybe so - your guru Trungpa, didn't have a problem with > it, but the Sakyong Mipham is married to a Tibetan lady. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowing to Doha-Scene 10-(was conflict in fiction)
Have to get caught up here. Been busy a few days. The VW got my attention. Our people are gonna talk, right? How ya doin? Mindless plug: Doti, the doti comes to mind. White fruit of the loom T's... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > The VW van speeds down the Abu Dhabi to Doha freeway. > > It passes through one after another roundabout big enough > to park a 747. The eight lanes of the freeway appear to > be divided into a super fast lane -for Arabs in high model number > Mercs with very low number license plates and seven other lanes populated > by European and Asians travelling at various speeds. Beside the freeway > caravans of Bedouins wave and laugh at the VW with the Zebra head hanging > out its window. > > WALLY > "We have to mediate." > > T. PAUL > "Forget that, you need to remember your password". > > WALLY > "Listen you fascistpig, you need to start meditating, > if you want your crown chakra to explode like a fountain, > splattering bliss and light in every > direction, blinding you > with love, binding your head and heart in warm bliss, > and > taking over your mind, your identity." > > SHANKAR > "Unless you want to end up some retard who is emotionally > marooned in a tween fantasy world." > > NN > "I thought you said that was how your wife > described you to the lawyers just before you asked her > for a divorce. You all need to get > checked." > > T. PAUL > "You all sound like you need to check out > some lithium enriched foods, just keep > your eyes on that mules business end > and remember your f**king passwords." > > Someone lets go of a big one and the Trekkies > start gagging and open their windows. The VW rounds > a last round about on the outskirts of Doha. > > TERRY (pointing) > "Pull over here, I have to check my FFL. > > To the right is an Internet cafe with a big neon sign: > > "Deja Moo Internet Cafe". > > Again from the distance the sweet sweet sound of pure > poetry fills the Van: > > "Allah-u Akbar" >
[FairfieldLife] DMT Experience
A psychiatrist explains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-Dob80v7Y&feature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
What an experience. How wonderful!! I know you are not in book-writing mode, but I hope you keep these posts and make some notes about your life experiences with MMY and on your own. They feel natural to you, but really could inspire others. And you write about them with an ease and simplicity that is nice indeed to read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully identified > > > > with a given particle, believing the program, and then by remembering > > > > it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we break our > > > > identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting the particle > > > > in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving attention on it > > > > as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it that. This moves the > > > > particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us as it aligns itself > > > > more and more with our love. And then the next particle arises, and the > > > > fun begins all over again! And so we are forced to recall again and > > > > again that we are not limited, and we can give our particles literally > > > > anything they need. > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give the > > wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As we > > commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it comes to > > feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our thoughts, > > and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire Universe). > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would come > > >in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do what > > >neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess you > > >would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if we are > > >beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all Us, we > > >are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our healing > > devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't think > so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and reunited > with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling all that > is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam pellets but, > indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean > points))... There were, however, some significantly larger entities that had > distinct qualities and appearances and could occupy as much as, let's say, > one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa > and another a little like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple > thick fins and more a lighter silvery gray. From an > I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine such a titanically > huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, > inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the universe, I simply > treated them likewise and they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a > while of this, things to heal began to diminish and something else began to > happen. I became aware of something large that occupied the lower half of my > torso. At first it somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I > soon realized it was like a cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, > and it broke through the confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up > towards my head. Though I didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it > became clear to me that that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one > might say, kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown chakra, but > could not find a suitable place there to anchor. I then became aware of the > particle that wanted the "cause" of my recent, blessed dismissal, yes, the > woman of my dreams, my
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," > > > > you mean? > > > > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the > > > missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > > > > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories of monks > > sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to project their > > pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex. > > > Thanks for sharing your experience Ravi and your obligatory Ad Hominem. You > sound like you need a hug! > Thanks for admitting that you are indeed a retard, not that I didn't sincerely believe you were one - I think your ongoing commitment to prove it day in and day out is quite admirable. Add to it honesty, wow I bow down to you Vaj. You are a hero to any other retard out there looking to avoid themselves. Proud to have you here at FFL, my job becomes so easier, all I do is point at you instead of trying paint one theoretically to others. Thanks again, much love.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ray Dolby - a TMer??
Yes, he was in India. Wondered how he could reduce that residual tape hiss. His first product was called Dolby Signal-to-Noise Stretcher, later called Dolby A. He broke the audio spectrum of human hearing range into four bands. In each band if the signal fell below a certain level, its amplification was increased, making the signal stronger over the noise in that band. Loud sounds were not affected because he knew that the noise could not be heard against loud signal. During playback a mirror image of the amplification reduced the signal back to its original level, and at the same time reduced the volume of the noise compared to what it would have been without the process. This product increased the signal to noise ratio by 10 decibels across the audio band, enough so that residual tape his could not be heard when the tape was transcribed to an LP (33-1/3 rpm long playing record for you young things that only know about CDs or mp3s. The next product was Dolby B which did the same thing in the high frequency band only, and made tolerable noise levels possible for the compact tape cassette. More sophisticated versions for professional and consumer use came later. Dolby also was on the team that developed the first Ampex video tape recorder. He said that at parties he became known as the guy with 'that little switch', a reference to Dolby B on cassette recorders. Dolby A was also used to improve optical and magnetic motion picture sound tracks. http://www.dolby.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > Motley Fool: > > Shh... hEaR that? > Ray Dolby conceived the idea for a noise reduction system > while meditating on an ashram in India. He was then a precocious graduate > from Stanford with a Ph.D. in physics from > Cambridge University, working for the Peace Corps. Little > did he know that by the mid-1970s, the Dolby brand would > become a household name for quality sound systems. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Right. I was once given the mantra "OM Iswara thahara tis," and it works beautifully for me as a householder. (I find it really hits home if you sound it out in your heart a number of times quickly.) (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is the heart in THAT?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > [...] > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. [...] -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > I think, as my TM-SIdhis course administrator so tactfully put it, we can > chalk that up as "beautiful unstressing." > > > L. * * What isn't? R.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Beautiful, beautiful, Mark! Many thanks for sharing this. As to being able to give everything whatever it needed, of course you can. In fact I would suggest that your're constantly doing it, whether or not you choose consciously to appreciate that in any given moment. I am so glad that you have done so here! *L*L*L* --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully identified > > > > with a given particle, believing the program, and then by remembering > > > > it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we break our > > > > identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting the particle > > > > in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving attention on it > > > > as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it that. This moves the > > > > particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us as it aligns itself > > > > more and more with our love. And then the next particle arises, and the > > > > fun begins all over again! And so we are forced to recall again and > > > > again that we are not limited, and we can give our particles literally > > > > anything they need. > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give the > > wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As we > > commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it comes to > > feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our thoughts, > > and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire Universe). > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would come > > >in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do what > > >neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess you > > >would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if we are > > >beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all Us, we > > >are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our healing > > devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't think > so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and reunited > with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling all that > is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam pellets but, > indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean > points))... There were, however, some significantly larger entities that had > distinct qualities and appearances and could occupy as much as, let's say, > one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa > and another a little like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple > thick fins and more a lighter silvery gray. From an > I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine such a titanically > huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, > inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the universe, I simply > treated them likewise and they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a > while of this, things to heal began to diminish and something else began to > happen. I became aware of something large that occupied the lower half of my > torso. At first it somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I > soon realized it was like a cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, > and it broke through the confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up > towards my head. Though I didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it > became clear to me that that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one > might say, kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown chakra, but > could not find a suitable place there to anchor. I then became aware of the > particle that wanted the "cause" of my recent, blessed dismissal, yes, the > woman of my dreams, my ex-sup
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you > > > mean? > > > > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the > > missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories of monks > sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to project their > pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex. Thanks for sharing your experience Ravi…and your obligatory Ad Hominem. You sound like you need a hug!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:35 PM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at > > > your mother's knee," you mean? > > > > Vaj: > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western > > babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > > > Maybe so - your guru Trungpa, didn't have a problem with > it, but the Sakyong Mipham is married to a Tibetan lady. That's an interesting story, but Trungpa was not my guru. I am an admirer though. Go figure, huh?
[FairfieldLife] Rowing to Doha-Scene 10-(was conflict in fiction)
The VW van speeds down the Abu Dhabi to Doha freeway. It passes through one after another roundabout big enough to park a 747. The eight lanes of the freeway appear to be divided into a super fast lane -for Arabs in high model number Mercs with very low number license plates and seven other lanes populated by European and Asians travelling at various speeds. Beside the freeway caravans of Bedouins wave and laugh at the VW with the Zebra head hanging out its window. WALLY "We have to mediate." T. PAUL "Forget that, you need to remember your password". WALLY "Listen you fascistpig, you need to start meditating, if you want your crown chakra to explode like a fountain, splattering bliss and light in every direction, blinding you with love, binding your head and heart in warm bliss, and taking over your mind, your identity." SHANKAR "Unless you want to end up some retard who is emotionally marooned in a tween fantasy world." NN "I thought you said that was how your wife described you to the lawyers just before you asked her for a divorce. You all need to get checked." T. PAUL "You all sound like you need to check out some lithium enriched foods, just keep your eyes on that mules business end and remember your f**king passwords." Someone lets go of a big one and the Trekkies start gagging and open their windows. The VW rounds a last round about on the outskirts of Doha. TERRY (pointing) "Pull over here, I have to check my FFL. To the right is an Internet cafe with a big neon sign: "Deja Moo Internet Cafe". Again from the distance the sweet sweet sound of pure poetry fills the Van: "Allah-u Akbar"
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" as part of the phoneme set. BTW, it works just fine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > > Just what I heard... > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers using > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you > > mean? > > > Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? > > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the > missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > No Vakrabuddhi, retards are always fascinated with the stories of monks sexual exploits because it provides a convenient excuse to project their pain, shame, guilt and self loathing with sex.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
turquoiseb: > Unlike you, I never claim that what I say is "true," > much less "truth." > So, is that the "truth", that you never say what you say is true? > It's just what I say. > That's what I say.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Beautiful post Mark, love the reference to Ramayana's story on Bharata ruling the kingdom with Rama's sandals. May be there is a significance in you having those sandals for all these years and all this drama with you trying to sell it. Existence works in mysterious ways. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully identified > > > > with a given particle, believing the program, and then by remembering > > > > it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we break our > > > > identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting the particle > > > > in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving attention on it > > > > as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it that. This moves the > > > > particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us as it aligns itself > > > > more and more with our love. And then the next particle arises, and the > > > > fun begins all over again! And so we are forced to recall again and > > > > again that we are not limited, and we can give our particles literally > > > > anything they need. > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give the > > wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As we > > commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it comes to > > feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our thoughts, > > and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire Universe). > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would come > > >in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do what > > >neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess you > > >would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if we are > > >beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all Us, we > > >are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our healing > > devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't think > so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and reunited > with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling all that > is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam pellets but, > indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean > points))... There were, however, some significantly larger entities that had > distinct qualities and appearances and could occupy as much as, let's say, > one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa > and another a little like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple > thick fins and more a lighter silvery gray. From an > I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine such a titanically > huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, > inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the universe, I simply > treated them likewise and they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a > while of this, things to heal began to diminish and something else began to > happen. I became aware of something large that occupied the lower half of my > torso. At first it somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I > soon realized it was like a cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, > and it broke through the confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up > towards my head. Though I didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it > became clear to me that that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one > might say, kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown chakra, but > could not find a suitable place there to anchor. I then became aware of the > particle that wanted the "cause" of my recent, blessed dismissal, yes, the > woman of my dreams, my ex-supervisor with whom I had recently been working > f
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
> > Other than "practice the religion you learned at > > your mother's knee," you mean? > > Vaj: > Unless of course old Monks molesting young western > babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"... > Maybe so - your guru Trungpa, didn't have a problem with it, but the Sakyong Mipham is married to a Tibetan lady.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Both posters overposted. There is no question of that. > > Both know it. One claims to have done it unknowingly. > > The other did it on purpose, IMO to make a point about > > "abiding by one's social contract." Both violated the > > same social rule; only one is still posting. > > > > Which strikes you as having more integrity? Just askin'. > > I wondered how long it would take before an altar to the > self-martyred Vaj would be erected. > > tosses toenail clipping on the homa kunda > > There's my burnt offering. Well, looks like Vaj has reconsidered. Not enough toenails, apparently.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! > > Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you > mean? Hey how come Mahesh didn't follow his won advice would be my question? Unless of course old Monks molesting young western babes is one of the missing "behaviorial rasayanas"...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:10 PM, sparaig wrote: > Of course, the only research on TM they cite in that book is from 25 years > ago, so one assumes that they are also quoting the descriptions of pure > consciousness in the research done 25 years ago. Not true Lawson, they used research up to 2004! And they used what little was needed and of decent quality. It doesn't take volumes to show what the relaxation response occurring in TM looks like. I think your problem is you let yourself be wowed that something special is happening. Real neuroscientists aren't as easily fooled. They can do all the research they want and fudge all the data they want: we already know what is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Raise your hands and step away from the conversation"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > And how are your posts any less self-important than Robin's? My interest is > not God, not soccer, not movies, but people, their inner experiences. So I > enjoy your posts, Robin's and everyone else's. To clarify I'm always interested in posters who share their inner experiences not retarded posters like Bob Price who is still emotionally marooned in a tween fantasy world. > I think being "self" important is awesome, because the other is just a myth, > which becomes very beautiful and fun once you are indeed completely "self" > important. > > So I have no problem you attacking or criticizing people or their pinions but > your posts on ignoring posters, labeling them as self important drama queens > or other DSM labels kinda getting tedious, stale and repetitive. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > Things Curtis said earlier left me pondering (a good thing) my > > reluctance to get involved in long, philosophical conversations (a good > > thing or bad thing...your call). I think, in retrospect, that he was > > onto something by mentioning that I've been on forums like this one for > > some years. Some decades, truth be known; I started chatting on the > > Internet on forums like this one before it was called that, back when it > > was still known as Arpanet. > > > > In that time I have probably gotten involved in as many long, drawn-out > > philosophical conversations as anyone here. Hell, I've gotten involved > > in such discussions with many of you here. And in those conversations I > > have often gotten involved with them to the extent that they could be > > called arguments, or strong disagreements about basic philosophical > > principles. I have also, when so afflicted, been guilty of either trying > > to "sell" my own POV, or diminish someone else's. Mea culpa. I'm trying > > to learn from my mistakes. > > > > These days I have developed a kind of internal "Déja Moo Meter." Its > > digital readout warns me when I've encountered Déja Moo (the feeling > > that you've seen this bullshit before) and am about to step in a pile of > > it again. Certain topics set off this meter. For example: > > > > Toi: "I believe in God." > > Moi: "I don't. What about that Barcelona-Manchester United game last > > night, eh? Wasn't that great?" > > > > That, to me, constitutes pretty much the depth to which I am willing to > > plant one shoe in that particular pile of Déja Moo. I have SO been > > there done that with that conversation that I know where it leads, which > > is almost always nowhere. Because I feel no need to sell my disbelief, > > and experience tells me that many believers DO feel a need to sell me > > their belief, I just raise my hands and step away from the conversation. > > > > Mea culpa, if that lowers me in your estimation. I *understand* that > > such conversations -- or even debates -- are important to many people. > > But I have SO been there done that with the same conversations that I > > feel no need to slot them into the DVD of a chat forum and play them > > again. Déja Moo. > > > > These days I'm trying very hard to avoid such (to me) Déja Moo > > conversations on this forum, and on others that I haunt. When I see one > > on the conversational sidewalk in front of me, I sidestep it and > > continue on my Way, leaving those who are fascinated by such things to > > pursue their fascination. I try to steer clear of topics such as: > > > > * "Are the states of consciousness presented to us by spiritual > > traditions really 'higher' SOCs or are they merely 'alternative' SOCs?" > > This is a discussion that can never be resolved, and that will leave > > both parties (or however many parties involved) in the conversation > > having "settled" nothing and in most cases believing exactly what they > > believed at the start of it. It's an exchange of irresolvable opinions. > > > > * "Is/was really > > enlightened, or not?" Ditto reaction on my internal Déja Moo Meter, > > for the same reasons. > > > > * "Can one's subjective assessment of pretty much anything -- based on a > > combination of personal experience and 'book learning' -- ever be > > considered fact, or Truth?" If the other person says, "Yes," I know at > > the outset where any conversation about this subject will end up, so I > > just don't "go there." > > > > Others are more than welcome to look upon this reluctance on my part to > > getting involved in Déja Moo conversations -- the outcome of which is > > IMO pretty much a foregone conclusion -- as a failing. You may well be > > correct. > > > > I prefer to see it as more of a "time saving device." At this point in > > my life I am not heavily invested enough in ANY spiritual or > > philosophical belief to want to "debate" it with another sentient being. > > To do so would be IMO a waste of my time, and the other person's. *They* > > may feel an attachme
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > I admire your powers of self-expression in the service of > controversy, but I cannot follow you there,this, after > discharging all of my irony. Robin, your irony discharge was definitive. If I'd been able to read it before I made my post, I wouldn't have bothered. (Among other things, I'd have been too busy wiping my eyes.) > Thank you for your counsel, though, authfriend. I miss > those great conversations we began some time ago, but am > reconciled to their termination. Appreciate the kind words, but I suspect you're in better hands with Curtis. I may yet have occasion to put my oar in, though, if I think I have something to contribute, or just to inquire about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
turquoiseb: > Don't really hope for any more such replies... > All you have to do is 're-mindfullness' yourself of a happier thought you once had, maybe about fifty years ago, then come out of your rut with more positive thoughts. LoL!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: [...] > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. [...] I think, as my TM-SIdhis course administrator so tactfully put it, we can chalk that up as "beautiful unstressing." L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > !Found! The missing ethics in TM! Other than "practice the religion you learned at your mother's knee," you mean? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Good stuff Mark - Now you just have to wait for your crown chakra to explode like a fountain, splattering bliss and light in every direction, blinding you with love, binding your head and heart in warm bliss, and taking over your mind, your identity.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully identified > > > > with a given particle, believing the program, and then by remembering > > > > it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we break our > > > > identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting the particle > > > > in C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving attention on it > > > > as its God, asking it what it needs and giving it that. This moves the > > > > particle into G.C., and then into Unity with us as it aligns itself > > > > more and more with our love. And then the next particle arises, and the > > > > fun begins all over again! And so we are forced to recall again and > > > > again that we are not limited, and we can give our particles literally > > > > anything they need. > > > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > > woundedness everything it needs. > > > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the > > idea. You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your > > bodymind. For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all > > maya; being nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our > > thoughts. But we are the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give the > > wounded devata the thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As we > > commune with and listen unconditionally to the wounded devata, it comes to > > feel our love, have faith in us, and align its shakti with our thoughts, > > and make them so in our bodymind (and hence in our entire Universe). > > > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would come > > >in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do what > > >neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess you > > >would equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if we are > > >beyond identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all Us, we > > >are the Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our healing > > devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > > > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share > it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown > chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began > by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing > whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't think > so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and reunited > with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling all that > is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam pellets but, > indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean > points))... There were, however, some significantly larger entities that had > distinct qualities and appearances and could occupy as much as, let's say, > one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa > and another a little like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple > thick fins and more a lighter silvery gray. From an > I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine such a titanically > huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, > inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the universe, I simply > treated them likewise and they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a > while of this, things to heal began to diminish and something else began to > happen. I became aware of something large that occupied the lower half of my > torso. At first it somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I > soon realized it was like a cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, > and it broke through the confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up > towards my head. Though I didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it > became clear to me that that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one > might say, kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown chakra, but > could not find a suitable place there to anchor. I then became aware of the > particle that wanted the "cause" of my recent, blessed dismissal, yes, the > woman of my dreams, my ex-supervisor with whom I had recently been working > for three years. T
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Raise your hands and step away from the conversation"
And how are your posts any less self-important than Robin's? My interest is not God, not soccer, not movies, but people, their inner experiences. So I enjoy your posts, Robin's and everyone else's. I think being "self" important is awesome, because the other is just a myth, which becomes very beautiful and fun once you are indeed completely "self" important. So I have no problem you attacking or criticizing people or their pinions but your posts on ignoring posters, labeling them as self important drama queens or other DSM labels kinda getting tedious, stale and repetitive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Things Curtis said earlier left me pondering (a good thing) my > reluctance to get involved in long, philosophical conversations (a good > thing or bad thing...your call). I think, in retrospect, that he was > onto something by mentioning that I've been on forums like this one for > some years. Some decades, truth be known; I started chatting on the > Internet on forums like this one before it was called that, back when it > was still known as Arpanet. > > In that time I have probably gotten involved in as many long, drawn-out > philosophical conversations as anyone here. Hell, I've gotten involved > in such discussions with many of you here. And in those conversations I > have often gotten involved with them to the extent that they could be > called arguments, or strong disagreements about basic philosophical > principles. I have also, when so afflicted, been guilty of either trying > to "sell" my own POV, or diminish someone else's. Mea culpa. I'm trying > to learn from my mistakes. > > These days I have developed a kind of internal "Déja Moo Meter." Its > digital readout warns me when I've encountered Déja Moo (the feeling > that you've seen this bullshit before) and am about to step in a pile of > it again. Certain topics set off this meter. For example: > > Toi: "I believe in God." > Moi: "I don't. What about that Barcelona-Manchester United game last > night, eh? Wasn't that great?" > > That, to me, constitutes pretty much the depth to which I am willing to > plant one shoe in that particular pile of Déja Moo. I have SO been > there done that with that conversation that I know where it leads, which > is almost always nowhere. Because I feel no need to sell my disbelief, > and experience tells me that many believers DO feel a need to sell me > their belief, I just raise my hands and step away from the conversation. > > Mea culpa, if that lowers me in your estimation. I *understand* that > such conversations -- or even debates -- are important to many people. > But I have SO been there done that with the same conversations that I > feel no need to slot them into the DVD of a chat forum and play them > again. Déja Moo. > > These days I'm trying very hard to avoid such (to me) Déja Moo > conversations on this forum, and on others that I haunt. When I see one > on the conversational sidewalk in front of me, I sidestep it and > continue on my Way, leaving those who are fascinated by such things to > pursue their fascination. I try to steer clear of topics such as: > > * "Are the states of consciousness presented to us by spiritual > traditions really 'higher' SOCs or are they merely 'alternative' SOCs?" > This is a discussion that can never be resolved, and that will leave > both parties (or however many parties involved) in the conversation > having "settled" nothing and in most cases believing exactly what they > believed at the start of it. It's an exchange of irresolvable opinions. > > * "Is/was really > enlightened, or not?" Ditto reaction on my internal Déja Moo Meter, > for the same reasons. > > * "Can one's subjective assessment of pretty much anything -- based on a > combination of personal experience and 'book learning' -- ever be > considered fact, or Truth?" If the other person says, "Yes," I know at > the outset where any conversation about this subject will end up, so I > just don't "go there." > > Others are more than welcome to look upon this reluctance on my part to > getting involved in Déja Moo conversations -- the outcome of which is > IMO pretty much a foregone conclusion -- as a failing. You may well be > correct. > > I prefer to see it as more of a "time saving device." At this point in > my life I am not heavily invested enough in ANY spiritual or > philosophical belief to want to "debate" it with another sentient being. > To do so would be IMO a waste of my time, and the other person's. *They* > may feel an attachment to trying to convert the other person to their > POV, or at the very least getting them to "understand" their own. I feel > no such attachment. > > I just rap. Sitting in cafes like this one. Often, as I have been > reminded recently by a couple of posters, probably without an audience. > The audience or lack thereof doesn't really concern me, nor does their > feedback, be it a pat on the back or a knife in the bac
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:56 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > RG: In other words, we always start out in Ignorance, fully identified > > > with a given particle, believing the program, and then by remembering > > > it's only a story being run somewhere in our body we break our > > > identification with it, becoming its Witness and putting the particle in > > > C.C. And then we can bend our unconditional loving attention on it as its > > > God, asking it what it needs and giving it that. This moves the particle > > > into G.C., and then into Unity with us as it aligns itself more and more > > > with our love. And then the next particle arises, and the fun begins all > > > over again! And so we are forced to recall again and again that we are > > > not limited, and we can give our particles literally anything they need. > > > > > ML: yes, this is consonant with my experience except that I buy into my > > "limitations" and don't usually believe I can literally give the > > woundedness everything it needs. > > * * You don't actually have to believe it; you just have to give it the idea. > You're bigger than it is; it is one angel among trillions in your bodymind. > For all intents and purposes you're its God. We know it's all maya; being > nothing, we don't have any shakti, any real power in our thoughts. But we are > the creative awareness (the Shiva) which can give the wounded devata the > thought of fulfillment for whatever it needs. As we commune with and listen > unconditionally to the wounded devata, it comes to feel our love, have faith > in us, and align its shakti with our thoughts, and make them so in our > bodymind (and hence in our entire Universe). > > >ML: In the DNA Activation I did with others, pure healing devas would come > >in with healing light and energy from the highest dimension and do what > >neither I nor the client/group could do for ourselves. But I guess you would > >equate these with our good inner children and, of course, if we are beyond > >identifying with any story or particle POV, then it's all Us, we are the > >Totality/Reality/No-Thing. > > * * Yes! You could say you simply hold the idea of healing, and our healing > devatas make it so, through their faith in you :-) > I had a more than interesting meditation this morning. I thought I'd share it. Instead of being the no-thing, I found myself being the crown chakra/love source/God being of my universe/all that is and isn't. I began by loving whatever was there seeming to need it and giving each thing whatever it needed. (Yes, I seemed, miraculously, though Rory wouldn't think so, to be able to do this.) Each thing that came up expanded and reunited with "me," the Totality. I was soon aware of my bodymind equalling all that is and did perceive trillions of I-particles, not as styrofoam pellets but, indeed, as singularities (yes, I know, an oxymoron)((by singularities, I mean points))... There were, however, some significantly larger entities that had distinct qualities and appearances and could occupy as much as, let's say, one-thirtieth of my entire mindbody. One looked like a dark shadow/rakshasa and another a little like a stealth bomber, though consisting of multiple thick fins and more a lighter silvery gray. From an I-particle/singularity/point perspective, I would imagine such a titanically huge thing to be absolutely terrifying, dangerous and totally unhealable, inconceivable, really. But, as loving God of all the universe, I simply treated them likewise and they soon expanded/dissolved/joined me. After a while of this, things to heal began to diminish and something else began to happen. I became aware of something large that occupied the lower half of my torso. At first it somehow seemed associated with my alimentary canal, but I soon realized it was like a cobra. I gave it, like everything else, my love, and it broke through the confines of my diaphragm and began to rise up towards my head. Though I didn't experience classic kundalini symptoms, it became clear to me that that's what it was, not only kundalini, but, one might say, kundalini/Adi-Sesha. It raised up to reach my crown chakra, but could not find a suitable place there to anchor. I then became aware of the particle that wanted the "cause" of my recent, blessed dismissal, yes, the woman of my dreams, my ex-supervisor with whom I had recently been working for three years. That particle seemed to merge with the image of the supervisor I was giving it, to transformed into Shakti, the Divine Mother. The DM then expanded to the size of my bodymind and we became one/united in the sacred marriage. There was no sexual component to this. It was cosmic unification, the two of us become one with Adi-Sesha there within/in between us. Adi-Sesha then broke through the top of my head and extended upward through the chakras above my hea
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Robin-- > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > But if I have got this all wrong, turquoiseb, and this > > criticism of me came from hatred or jealousy or mischief > > or envy or just plain f***king around, I ask you to admit > > this now, and thus spare me from being deceived into > > believing that this criticism came from the heart, and > > will, in some significant sense, be relevant at my death. > > I think you may be missing a piece of this. > > Yesterday, turquoiseb thoughtfully provided us with a > little sermon on the virtues of mindfulness (it's post > #284653, if you wish to read it). > > In it, he recommended to us a technique he practices: > > "There are many aspects to mindfulness, and many ways to > practice it, once you've caught yourself fucking up. Some > of these ways involve more effort than others. One of my > faves, and one of the least effortful, is what I call > re-mindfulness. Want to shake yourself out of a stale > mindset, or an emotion you find draining? Just remind > yourself of a shinier mindset, and happier emotions." > > In other words, at some point before he wrote his posts > to you today, he had caught himself fucking up, and to > shake himself out of that stale mindset and those > draining emotions, he reminded himself of a shinier > mindset and happier emotions. The result of this > exercise in what he calls "re-mindfulness" was his > comments to you. > > Now, just imagine, if those comments to you were > reflective for him of a *shinier* mindset and *happier* > emotions, what a nightmare the stale mindset and > draining emotions he was shaking himself out of must > have been. > > Compassion suggests that you *welcome* his comments to > you, thankful that his perception of you was the > inspiration for him to take a step *up* from the sheer > degrading awfulness of what he had been experiencing. > > Unlike Sal, he may have failed to perceive the spirit > of your post to Tom, but that's not important; all that > really matters is that he was able to yank himself by > his bootstraps from the depths of his agony by focusing > on what he *did* perceive. Baby steps! One can't expect > complete transformation overnight, especially when the > starting point is so far down. Any improvement from that > nadir is cause for rejoicing. > > I'm sure you and everyone else here will pray fervently > for him to be able to take another baby step in the not- > too-distant future. Any one of us would be thrilled to > have a post of ours be the foundation for another > increment of progress. We won't mind if his perceptions > seem unduly negative, since we know that however troubled > the mindstate that is generating them, it's better-- > shinier, happier--than what it was before. > Dear authfriend, I confess to not being able to comprehend the mind of some of the posters here on FFL. I can't form a distinct sense of who the person is. What I am always harping onGod's omnisubjectivity: "the property of consciously grasping with perfect accuracy and completeness the first-person perspective of every conscious being"doesn't work for me (You understand: since I am made in the image of God, I seek to imitate this faculty of God: viz. trying to understand the first person point of view of another human beingwhat that person's subjective experience is of being that person. Trying to literally get a take on this. I have been doing this since I was a young child. In the case of two posters I have failed. Because I just cannot penetrate into their experience of *what it is like to be who they are*.). I appreciate your attempting to educate me on the futility of this intention. I am not really up for fully extending myself beyond first: my sincerity (which I have tried) and second: my irony (which I have tried). The poster to which you refer in this post lives in his own worldand by the way, so do I: evidently these worlds are not destined to meet. I admire your powers of self-expression in the service of controversy, but I cannot follow you there,this, after discharging all of my irony. Thank you for your counsel, though, authfriend. I miss those great conversations we began some time ago, but am reconciled to their termination. Robin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
On 08/01/2011 12:30 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > Ok, that's it. As soon as Bhairitu can add pun detection to the post count > script, I'm going to have the script count pun posts as two posts. > Don't know about pun detection but I've been playing around with some Python scripts that read my FFL mailbox and generate header files. Then I can use the PHP report generator section to create a report. Here's the current post count report: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 30 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 6 00:00:00 2011 370 messages as of (UTC) Mon Aug 1 20:10:19 2011 33 "Buck" 31 "authfriend" 30 "whynotnow7" 26 "RoryGoff" 26 "Alex Stanley" 22 turquoiseb 19 Mark Landau 17 Tom Pall 13 "Ravi Yogi" 12 Bhairitu 12 "wgm4u" 10 merudanda 8 nablusoss1008 8 cardemaister 8 Sal Sunshine 8 "seventhray1" 6 maskedzebra 6 Denise Evans 6 "raunchydog" 5 "emptybill" 5 "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 5 "John" 4 Mike Dixon 4 FFL PostCount 4 Duveyoung 4 "sparaig" 4 "do.rflex" 4 "Robert" 3 Vaj 3 Bob Price 3 Bill Coop 3 "curtisdeltablues" 3 "PaliGap" 2 wle...@aol.com 2 "noah" 2 "fflmod" 2 "Rick Archer" 1 tedadams108 1 merlin 1 Robert 1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 1 Declan Fitzmaurice 1 "johnt" 1 "Declan Fitzmaurice" Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com And for a bonus here is the email address count with None represents the no_reply address: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 30 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 6 00:00:00 2011 370 messages as of (UTC) Mon Aug 1 20:10:19 2011 60 None 33 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 31 jst...@panix.com 30 whynotn...@yahoo.com 26 roryg...@hotmail.com 26 j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 19 m...@sky5.com 17 thomas.p...@gmail.com 13 raviy...@att.net 12 wg...@yahoo.com 12 noozg...@sbcglobal.net 8 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 8 salsunsh...@lisco.com 6 raunchy...@yahoo.com 6 dmevans...@yahoo.com 5 jr_...@yahoo.com 5 emptyb...@yahoo.com 5 babajii...@yahoo.com 5 anartax...@yahoo.com 4 mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 4 ffl.postco...@gmail.com 4 do.rf...@yahoo.com 4 lengli...@cox.net 3 williamgc...@gmail.com 3 vajradh...@earthlink.net 3 curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 3 compost...@yahoo.co.uk 3 bobpri...@yahoo.com 2 waybac...@yahoo.com 2 r...@searchsummit.com 2 ffl...@yahoo.com 2 declan.fitzmaur...@yahoo.com 2 wle...@aol.com 1 vedamer...@yahoo.de 1 johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com Posters: 35 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Ray Dolby - a TMer??
Motley Fool: Shh... hEaR that? Ray Dolby conceived the idea for a noise reduction system while meditating on an ashram in India. He was then a precocious graduate from Stanford with a Ph.D. in physics from Cambridge University, working for the Peace Corps. Little did he know that by the mid-1970s, the Dolby brand would become a household name for quality sound systems.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
Of course, the only research on TM they cite in that book is from 25 years ago, so one assumes that they are also quoting the descriptions of pure consciousness in the research done 25 years ago. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > > > Show me the research on pure consciousness found during mindfulness. > > > > First of all you need to define the signature of pure > > consciousness. Scientists in the TMO think this is a real state, > > but I am not sure other researchers agree that this is a definite > > discrete state of consciousness. > > Exactly. When neuroscientists in the Cambridge Handbook of > Consciousness commented on TM researchers descriptions of "Pure > Consciousness", they 'pined "these descriptions might best be > interpreted as metaphysical assertions rather than first-person > descriptions" and hit the nail right on the head. > > They could just have well called it Pussy Willowness or some other > specious special buzz-phrase. It's only meaningful to the > indoctrinated. See "it's happening RIGHT HERE" (points to squiggle). > > Oh, yeah, uh huh. Wow. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > I would ask all readers who disagree with turquiseband think of > me in very positive termsto write in protest of this assessment > of me. I'll be honest, Robin, your writing style is not my cuppa tea. I find it excessively verbose and grandiose, and my attention deficit wiring does not do well with it at all. That said, I'm very happy that you're here. Same goes for Mark Landau. The two of you have been great for stimulating dialog beyond just FFL's usual lashing out at people and concepts. IMO, it's really kicked up the signal-to-noise ratio. Dear Alex, You of course realize that what you have quoted from my post was meant ironically. As far as style is concerned, I have a distinct bias. While I notice style as such, I am always more interested in what a person is saying, for I find that most of the time, the subjective universe of a person inadvertentlyor, as in the rare case, such as Curtis M, where this is very deliberateleaks through the prose. Who we are, gets expressed, even if we are unaware of this, in what we write, and, I suppose, in a more subtle sense, in how we write. I have never thought of myself as a stylist (as in "The style is the man"), but I have always had something to say, and the means to say it with all of what I am. No matter how a person expresses what he says or writes, there are always two things going on: 1. *what* he or she is saying or writing, and 2. what is getting revealed about who that person in the involuntary act of self-disclosure that I always find writing to be (especially, interestingly enough, in the 21st century). We write, however unconsciously, out of our experience of being who we are, out of what it is like to be the person that we are. We can never, it seems, ultimately lie about this, even if we are entirely unaware that we are demonstrating to others the nature of our soul. Now you will take umbrage with all of this, I am sure. My only point here, Alex, was not to disagree with your judgment of my style of writing, but to let you know how the object of your criticism (me) sees the matter of writing style within a certain context. And it is a pretty big context: it's the whole first person universe of that person that gets out in their post. If I may, I would like to leave you with with a thought by a modern philosopher, a thought which bears upon what I have said in this post to you: "If God is in my mind as an observer of my thoughts and feelings, that is not omnisubjectivity. The relationship I am proposing is even more intimate than that. God knows me the way I know myself, knowing my thoughts, feelings, and purposes from my own perspective. This is the most intimate relationship possible. . . this is required of an omniscient being." You see, then, Alex, how where others are turning East (or have irremediably turned in that direction) I have turned West and then West some more. Thus my interest in the first person perspective of a human being. This trumps whatever concerns I have about his or her style. "I find it [MZ's writing style] excessively verbose and grandiose." I have been told this so often by others that I am inured to it. Starting with my Shakespeare professor when I wrote what I thought was the definitive analysis of Hamlet. He gave me a high mark, but more than quibbled about my "fustian" style. And I know he would agree with everything you have said. It's hard kicking one's style. I find I am out to accomplish something when I write, and the last thing I am thinking about is how entertaining, how compelling, how felicitous my style is. I have to get my thoughts articulated, and this is always (for me) a somewhat dense and convulated kind of thing. I would never sacrifice content or my own peculiar metaphysical tendencies (which come out whenever I write anything) in order to be more laconic or terse or incisive. Kant had the same problem. I knew everyone would like *that*. I am always trying to bring all of myself into my writing. Except of course when I am experimenting with irony, which was the case in my posts today. There *is* a person who posts on FFL whose style and first person perspective happily coalesce. But I have never seen this beforeeven in anything I have read. I am thinking about taking up the blues. Robin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was > > > > not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for > > > the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on > > > the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their > > > chanting with OMmmm... > > > > > > > FWIW: > > > > As I've told before, 'om' is a rather common word in Swedish > > (preposition: about,etc. / adverb: again / conjunction: if). > > "Despite that", Sweden seems to be amongst the wealthiest countries > > in the whole world, eh? > > > > Furthermore, there are words like 'kom' (came), som (as, etc.) > > dom (colloquial 'them'), and stuff... :o > > > > Om hon sku veta, som dom... (If she knew [sku veta!] as do those...) > > > > You need to get some Platonic smarts Card! > > It's the reference of the word, not the word itself > that counts. 'Om' (pa Svenska) is the same "token' as 'om' in > New Age English, but these linguistic tokens refer to quite > distinct abstract entities. > > Just as, for example, the Swedish linguistic token "baksida" > refers (I think) to "rear" in English (as in the rear of a > building, and not to your backside, your 'arse'). > > Or 'fart' - which most amusingly for little minds such > as mine is (I think) in Swedish 'Jazz' (or speed, velocity, > pace, start, go, going, force, energy, push, impetus, verve, > clip, swing, snap, pep, zing, zip, ginger, trade). > > Or "Naturen" - which in Swedish refers to the Platonic entity > 'countryside', and not "The Nature". > > No? > You're absolutely right! Actually, in Finnish the form 'om' might, in some contexts, be even more frequent than in Swedish, because, before labial consonants (m, p), the third person singular present tense form of the verb 'to be' or 'to have', 'on', often changes in colloquial speech to 'om', through sandhi, in this case partial regressive assimilation. For example On minulla soma... ([There] is "for" me a cute... > I have a cute...) ...might in colloquial speech appear as Om mulla soma...
[FairfieldLife] Rowing to Doha-Scene 9-(was conflict in fiction)
The dinghy hits the beach and jolts Wally awake. Our enlightened Trekkie's jump out of the dinghy and pull it out of the water. On the road above them with its motor running, covered in flowers and paisley patterns, is a 60's VW van. Out of the van jumps a big man in desert camouflage looking not unlike the Governator (a Polish version). "T. Paul, NAVY SEAL", who's in charge?" TERRY (pointing at NN) "He is". T.PAUL "So who was the brain tumor that picked jungle camouflage for the desert?" The damn mule is the only one who got it right. What's the password?" SHANKAR "Cash". T.PAUL "That's the first word, what are the other two?" WALLY "I can't remember, I think I transcended." NN "We're not supposed to say them out loud." T.PAUL "We're you dropped as a child? How can you use a password without saying it out loud, get in the van". As T. Paul opens the van door a wall of Janus hits them like a barrel heading over Niagara. And I say, oh, whoa, whoa, now hon’, tell me why, Why does every single little tiny thing I hold on to go wrong ? Yeah it goes wrong, yeah. And I say, oh, whoa, whoa, now babe, tell me why, Does every thing, every thing. Hey, here you gone today, I wanted to love you, I just wanted to hold you, I said, for so long, Yeah! Alright! Hey! After they are all in the van, T. Paul revs the motor turns down the music and turns to the Trekkies. "Who the hell farted, if that mule *hits in my 4-banger, you won't have to worry about breakfast." T.Paul opens the window as the sun is rises and in the distance we see a stunning minaret of a grand mosque. The sun breaks the horizon and a long shadow from the minaret cuts across the VW like a scimitar cutting a block of cheese and we hear the deep baritone of a local Sheik. "Hayya- al Khair al amal"
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Ok, that's it. As soon as Bhairitu can add pun detection to the post count script, I'm going to have the script count pun posts as two posts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > And infraredi-whipped. The full range of existence. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Based on Mark's posts it seems more like ultra-violated. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > I suspect after any close proximity to Maharishi for a number of hours, > > > one would feel as if x-rayed.:-) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > Jim, love it. But seriously Mark was a lucky guy to have been in > > > > immediate proximity to M and I'm sure M enjoyed the beauty of "hell" > > > > :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > > > > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > > > > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > > > > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > > > > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > > > > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to > > > > air travel..." > > > > > > > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant > > > > wouldn't agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > > > > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > > > > > > > and, finally > > > > > > > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > > > > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a > > > > lot of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our > > > > section. He turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within > > > > Brahman, I had been wondering what that feels like to experience - > > > > clearly doing one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in > > > > a context of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already > > > > filtering us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like > > > > Nothing in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which > > > > states of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't > > > > contain us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > > > > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > > > > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > > > > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > > > > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > > > > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - > > > > it was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > > > > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > > > > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > > > > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > > > > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > > > > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > > > > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > > > > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > > > > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have > > > > withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > > > > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some > > > > form of our Love, and which we have been unconsciously wi
[FairfieldLife] Everything that's wrong with Hollywood
Fun article in the NY Post about what's wrong with Hollywood and the new book by the creators of "Reno 911". Says what I've been saying about the Hollywood films for some time. http://nyp.st/qewURy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > There are so many techniques. Generally they confuse people. That's why you are posting the list of all the different meditation-techniques going on in Fairfield from time to time, to point out how confused they have all become over there ? :-) I think the TMO is just dragging it's feets at the moment; move everything to India, forget about that Fairfield-mess !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > Seems to be a never ending discussion... Indeed ! This is what Maharishi wrote about " OM", take it or leave it. "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" > "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time > when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation > and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted > aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed > by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply > rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the > destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, > wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the > renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the > householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are > fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of > fulfilling the desires. > > > > If unfortunately, the householder begins to repeat the pranava Mantra > viz. 'Om', 'Om' 'Om' he experiences destructive effects in his material > life. The effect starts with monetary loss and then goes on to destroy > objects of affection, one by one. Such a man, when he finds loss of > money and separation from the dear ones, he is reduced to utter > peacelessness and frustration. Where is the chance of spiritual > development or experience of Peace and happiness for such a dejected > soul? The path of peacelessness and misery in the world, cannot lead to > Eternal happiness. If the man is proceeding towards Eternal happiness > every day he should feel the increase of peace and happiness, and this > alone will assure him that he is proceeding towards abiding peace and > eternal happiness. If you walk towards the light you should be able to > feel the increase of light at every step. If you are spending some time > in devotion to God, you should feel peace and happiness in life. If you > are not feeling peace and happiness you should be wise enough to doubt > the correctness of your devotion, you should be wise enough to think > that your method of devotion is wrong, that the Mantras that you are > repeating do not suit you. The mantras that suit the Sanyasis can never > suit the householders. Hundreds of God-loving and God-fearing families, > have been ruined due to the destructive effects of Sanyasa Mantra viz. > "Om". "Om" destroys desires and also destroys the objects of desires and > therefore it produces calmness of mind and renunciation and detachment > from material life only to Sanyasis when they repeat Om; to them it > brings the experience of peace of mind and from this experience they > generally recommend the chanting of 'Om' to their followers. But when a > householder repeats 'Om', he experiences that as long as he is repeating > 'Om' he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out to indulge in > business or household work, he finds he finds that the air is against > his desire and schemes. The silencing effect on the mind and destructive > effects in material life, both are lived side by side. Some people say > that we should ignore material life in regard to the devotional > practices and Mantras. But this is a fool's ideology. Can you possibly > ignore the considerations of material life, when the Mantras do affect > it? > > (BEacon Light) > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Post Count Follies :-)
Someone really does :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Aw, someone needs a hug - widdle beywee needs a hug. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Robin > > > > > You understand this, right? You say I am self-obsessed and > > > > > boring. > > > > > > > > > > > Barry > > > > That is my impression of you, yes. > > > > > > Robin: > > > > > But I insist this is not the consensus at FFLand how do > > > > > account for *that*? > > > > > > > Barry: > > > > Low standards in the other posters? > > > > > > I have often found in my life that it is impossible for me > > > to get two people together who I enjoy and have them enjoy > > > each other. Aside from being highly susceptible an entertaining > > > follie au deux, (not nearly as exciting as the trois version), > > > I am often attracted to strong personalities who do not mix > > > well with each other. > > > > > > I enjoy both you guys for different reasons, but am still > > > surprised when see people I enjoy detest each other. > > > > I think you may have missed something, Curtis. > > There is simply no *possibility* of me "detesting" > > Robin. Nothing he has ever written caused me to > > pay enough attention to him to detest him. Really. > > > > > (To be fair Robin is in defense mode here, it was Barry who > > > decided to send a shot over the bow.) > > > > And I've explained in a followup post why I did so. > > > > > I don't get why you find Robin's writing here hard to enjoy. > > > I consider the length of his posts an asset rather than a > > > liability. I like to write a lot too when I am inspired. But > > > this mostly concerns personal taste. > > > > I've written about this. I don't quite understand it, > > either, except as I've said before I find your writing > > "inclusive" and his "exclusive." Also, you write about > > real-world things that could possibly be of interest > > to another human being, and with which they could find > > some resonance. I find that mainly he seems to be > > writing about the view from inside his head OF the > > inside of his head. HE finds that fascinating; I do not. > > > > > Interlude to disrupt the thought pattern that starts with > > > any version of "Of course Curtis would say this, Robin > > > flattered him." My self regard is not shaped by what > > > other's write about me on either side of the pro or con > > > scale. And although I prefer to be liked and appreciated, > > > this is not what drew me into Robin's writing. For me he > > > represents a unique POV and is willing to process his > > > thoughts in the open. > > > > Different strokes for different folks. Really, I have > > found almost NOTHING unique about his POV or his ideas. > > If anything, they are retreads of retreads. > > > > But the thing for me -- something that I will never be > > able to overcome -- is that I don't find the things that > > he obsesses on the least bit INTERESTING. They are almost > > all theoretical and abstract, and at heart I'm really a > > pretty pragmatic guy. I click Next just as often when > > people get into more mainstream abstract conversations > > here; they just do not entice me in. It's as meaningless > > to me as two people debating whether a dog has Buddha- > > nature. Bzzzt. I hear something like that and just > > reach for the Next key. > > > > > Reading his posts takes a bit of flexibility in perspectives > > > as he shifts very quickly between numerous ones. Following > > > these shifts if really fun if you enjoy that sort of thing. > > > > I guess. I found that process fascinating in writers > > like Buckminster Fuller and Marshall McLuhan. But they > > seemed to be GOING SOMEWHERE with these shifts in per- > > spective. I have never gotten the feeling that Robin is. > > YMMV, and obviously does. Then again, you are still > > willing to get into irresolveable discussions over > > things like whether there is a God. Bzzt for me. > > Next. > > > > > Most importantly for me he is willing to explicitly create > > > enough rapport with an online stranger to support a high > > > level of disagreement concerning beliefs. > > > > I understand that you feel this way, and I commend you > > for taking the time to discover it. I never found myself > > interested enough in any of his ideas to WANT to create > > a rapport with him. > > > > > This is rare in my experience here. In his tenacious following > > > of a thread through many posts, I find I can think things > > > through to a step I rarely get to take in the more usual > > > quick back and forth. And anyone who has followed what I write > > > here can certainly understand how having this couched in "I > > > like Curtis" rather than "I detest Curtis" might be a bit of > > > welcome fresh air. > > > > You enjoy long, drawn-out conver
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
And infraredi-whipped. The full range of existence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > Based on Mark's posts it seems more like ultra-violated. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I suspect after any close proximity to Maharishi for a number of hours, one > > would feel as if x-rayed.:-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Jim, love it. But seriously Mark was a lucky guy to have been in > > > immediate proximity to M and I'm sure M enjoyed the beauty of "hell" > > > :-) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > > > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to > > > air travel..." > > > > > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant > > > wouldn't agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > > > > > and, finally > > > > > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > > > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a > > > lot of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our > > > section. He turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within > > > Brahman, I had been wondering what that feels like to experience - > > > clearly doing one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in > > > a context of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already > > > filtering us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like > > > Nothing in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which > > > states of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't > > > contain us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > > > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > > > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > > > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > > > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > > > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - > > > it was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > > > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > > > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > > > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > > > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > > > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > > > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > > > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > > > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have > > > withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > > > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some > > > form of our Love, and which we have been unconsciously withholding... > > > which is pretty much the same technique as the first one, only stated > > > slightly differently :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Three Gunas as Vedic Gods
Based on Mark's posts it seems more like ultra-violated. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I suspect after any close proximity to Maharishi for a number of hours, one > would feel as if x-rayed.:-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > Jim, love it. But seriously Mark was a lucky guy to have been in > > immediate proximity to M and I'm sure M enjoyed the beauty of "hell" > > :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > wrote: > > > > > > [Maharishi] turned to me [on the flight] and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > To which you replied (in the spirit of the Letterman Countdown): > > > > > > #7: "Well, its no picnic sitting next to *you* either..." > > > > > > #6: "But I thought hell was in the other direction?..." > > > > > > #5: "I already said I was sorry I didn't pack fresh batteries for your > > I-pod, Maharishi-ji" > > > > > > #4: "And here I assumed your 'Heaven On Earth' franchise extended to > > air travel..." > > > > > > #3: "Aren't you the Grumpy Gus, all because the flight attendant > > wouldn't agree to dinner after the flight?" > > > > > > #2: "Yeah, real 'enlightened', Dude" > > > > > > and, finally > > > > > > #1: "Not exactly *yogic* flying, now is it?" > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > I was on a long flight in a Spanish plane with M once, which allowed > > anyone to smoke anywhere in the plane. We were in first class, but a > > lot of people were smoking throughout the plane, including in our > > section. He turned to me and said, "This is hell." > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:21 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory, In terms of your inclusion of CC, GC and UC within > > Brahman, I had been wondering what that feels like to experience - > > clearly doing one of "MMY's big three"; CC, GC, UC, out of the blue (in > > a context of inclusiveness vs. getting lost in the "higher" SOC). > > > > > > > > > > * * Utterly impossible to describe, as description is already > > filtering us through intellect and duality, but it feels something like > > Nothing in particular, being simply a contentment or fullness in which > > states of consciousness are not our primary descriptors; they don't > > contain us; we contain them. That is, it simply IS (or We ARE) the > > Understanding that being absolutely nothing we contain everything, and > > the IS provides an arena to create the experience of whatever state(s) > > of consciousness might be needed by particular particle(s) predominant > > in our body, and which we provide by attending or not-attending in the > > requisite degree to the particular particle(s). > > > > > > > > > > > I was recently into about the fourth hour of a six hour flight - > > it was one of those where it was too warm, packed, at night, turbulence, > > guy putting his bare feet on the seat back next to me, just not a lot of > > fun. There was no reason to do anything except keep pretty much to my > > core, refuge in silence and a still mind. Because no matter how much I > > tried, I couldn't break out of CC! That aluminum tube became my CC > > prison. The vast and comforting silence within me couldn't be > > overshadowed, and yet I sure could not find Oneness with my immediate > > surroundings! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > * * Yes, as a particle I have occasionally found myself "stuck" in > > CC-prison, and it was sometimes not a lot of fun! It can be a bit like a > > standing wave of Self risen up in a column of separation from all the > > rest of us. One way out of this has been simply to realize what is up, > > and to relax back into appreciating the surroundings as also-us; this > > always allows the wave to dissolve back into the ocean. If we feel like > > a CC-column, the surroundings are generally presenting us with a quality > > which we are shrinking back from allowing to be perfect. We have > > withheld our Being from something "outside" of us because of a subtle or > > not-so-subtle story that it somehow is not perfect too. > > > > > > > > > > Or, we can do particle-work on the being in Us which needs some > > form of our Love, and which we have been unconsciously withholding... > > which is pretty much the same technique as the first one, only stated > > slightly differently :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Seems to be a never ending discussion... thanks "wgm4u" for the reminder [:">] and MMY continues in accordance with Guru Dev's teaching : Do not live in a fool's paradise. "Select a path which will make you happier in your material life also. Do not live in a fool's paradise. Do not think that your sufferings end miseries of today will work as reservations in the galleries of heaven for tomorrow. Be peaceful and happy in the present and try to make this state permanent. This is the path of Deliverance in Life Jeevan-Mukti, the most exalted state in human existence, the state of abiding Peace and Eternal Bliss. And this you are entitled to have through correct and suitable Sadhana. And because the Mantras play an important role in the field of Sadhana, you must be very very careful in the selection of the Mantra. The theory of Mantras is the theory of sound. It is most scientific and natural. Ladies should never repeat any Mantra beginning with Om. The pronunciation of Om is like fire to the ladies. This is the practical experience of many devoted ladies who repeated 'Om Namah Shivaya' or 'Om Namonarayanaya' or 'Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya' or any such mantra beginning with Om. It cannot be God's wish that you should suffer in your devotion to him. Do not cling to the unhelpful Mantras. The moment you find you have got into the wrong train, it is wise to get down from it as soon as possible. It is foolish to stick on to the wrong train and go wherever it takes you. I hold that the devotees of the Almighty God should not suffer at all. 'That is the fundamental condition of the path to Eternal Bliss. I hold that bliss or happiness should increase at every step till we get into the realm of eternal happiness. I hold that the devotees of the god should enjoy peace and happiness at every stage, because he is the fountain head of all peace and happiness. It cannot be that our march towards the light should at any stage increase the darkness before us. The march towards the Anant Anandam must give the experience of increase of Anandam at every step and in every walk of life. The devotee of the Almighty cannot suffer. If he is found to suffer, he cannot be said to be a devotee of God. lt pains me when I find people suffering in the name of God and devotion. I offer an open invitation to such aspirants and seekers of God. I invite them to come out of their miserable devotion, and step into the peaceful blissful chambers of Sadhana, blessed and illumined by the divine radiance of Shri Guru Deva. I invite them to put an end to their sufferings and peacelessness and crown their day to day life with success peace and joy. Do not waste time and life. Life is to enjoy. So come on to the field of all joy. The gates of all glories of life are open for you. "Make hay when the sun shines". Avail the opportunity in hand and enjoy life to the fullest." see http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Beacon.htm and Guru Dev's (Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati) similiar view/advise but let's ask Preacher [:D] Buck [:x] BTW another story is the experience of "Shunyaakaasha"and this beautiful transcendental combination of A-kaara, U-kaara, and Ma-kaara IMHO(E) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting with OMmmm... > > > > > > Did you meet a wealthy Pundit, ever ? > > > "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of fulfillin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Mindfulness
On Aug 1, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > Show me the research on pure consciousness found during mindfulness. First of all you need to define the signature of pure consciousness. Scientists in the TMO think this is a real state, but I am not sure other researchers agree that this is a definite discrete state of consciousness. Exactly. When neuroscientists in the Cambridge Handbook of Consciousness commented on TM researchers descriptions of "Pure Consciousness", they 'pined "these descriptions might best be interpreted as metaphysical assertions rather than first-person descriptions" and hit the nail right on the head. They could just have well called it Pussy Willowness or some other specious special buzz-phrase. It's only meaningful to the indoctrinated. See "it's happening RIGHT HERE" (points to squiggle). Oh, yeah, uh huh. Wow.
[FairfieldLife] Do not live in a fool's paradise. was Re: Maharishi stopped using OM ...
Seems to be a never ending discussion... thanks "wgm4u" for the reminder and MMY continues in accordance with Guru Dev's teaching : Do not live in a fool's paradise. "Select a path which will make you happier in your material life also. Do not live in a fool's paradise. Do not think that your sufferings end miseries of today will work as reservations in the galleries of heaven for tomorrow. Be peaceful and happy in the present and try to make this state permanent. This is the path of Deliverance in Life Jeevan-Mukti, the most exalted state in human existence, the state of abiding Peace and Eternal Bliss. And this you are entitled to have through correct and suitable Sadhana. And because the Mantras play an important role in the field of Sadhana, you must be very very careful in the selection of the Mantra. The theory of Mantras is the theory of sound. It is most scientific and natural. Ladies should never repeat any Mantra beginning with Om. The pronunciation of Om is like fire to the ladies. This is the practical experience of many devoted ladies who repeated 'Om Namah Shivaya' or 'Om Namonarayanaya' or 'Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya' or any such mantra beginning with Om. It cannot be God's wish that you should suffer in your devotion to him. Do not cling to the unhelpful Mantras. The moment you find you have got into the wrong train, it is wise to get down from it as soon as possible. It is foolish to stick on to the wrong train and go wherever it takes you. I hold that the devotees of the Almighty God should not suffer at all. 'That is the fundamental condition of the path to Eternal Bliss. I hold that bliss or happiness should increase at every step till we get into the realm of eternal happiness. I hold that the devotees of the god should enjoy peace and happiness at every stage, because he is the fountain head of all peace and happiness. It cannot be that our march towards the light should at any stage increase the darkness before us. The march towards the Anant Anandam must give the experience of increase of Anandam at every step and in every walk of life. The devotee of the Almighty cannot suffer. If he is found to suffer, he cannot be said to be a devotee of God. lt pains me when I find people suffering in the name of God and devotion. I offer an open invitation to such aspirants and seekers of God. I invite them to come out of their miserable devotion, and step into the peaceful blissful chambers of Sadhana, blessed and illumined by the divine radiance of Shri Guru Deva. I invite them to put an end to their sufferings and peacelessness and crown their day to day life with success peace and joy. Do not waste time and life. Life is to enjoy. So come on to the field of all joy. The gates of all glories of life are open for you. "Make hay when the sun shines". Avail the opportunity in hand and enjoy life to the fullest.? see http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Beacon.htm and Guru Dev's (Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati) similiar view/advise but let's ask Preacher Buck [:D] BTW another story is the experience of "ShunyÄkÄsha"and this beautiful transcendental combination of A-kÄra, U-kÄra, and Ma-kÄra. IMHO(E) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting with OMmmm... > > > > > > Did you meet a wealthy Pundit, ever ? > > > "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of fulfilling the desir
