RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FOCUS: Obama More Conservative Than Reagan?

[Rick Archer]

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
>
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/279-82/10548-focus-obama-more-conser
> vative-than-reagan

Based on your last bogus chart, I'd say this one has just about as much
credibility.

Here's an explanation of how it was calculated:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2012/03/per-capita-governme
nt-spending-by-president.html

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Postman: Ayers Family Put ‘Foreigner’ Obama Through School

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[FairfieldLife] This year's "New Living Expo"

[Bhairitu]

I don't anything to do with this organization but I occasionally have 
attended the local ones and sometimes the yearly big expo in San Fran.  
But I thought folks here might find it interesting, who's speaking and 
what's showing, etc.  It appears they have a lot more speakers and 
things this year:
http://newlivingexpo.com/

[FairfieldLife] Sam Houston

[Yifu]

1861, by Matthew Brady
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/34509.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Microworld

[Yifu]

by Dranik Dranov
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FOCUS: Obama More Conservative Than Reagan?

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/279-82/10548-focus-obama-more-conser
> vative-than-reagan

Based on your last bogus chart, I'd say this one has just about as much 
credibility.

[FairfieldLife] FOCUS: Obama More Conservative Than Reagan?

[Rick Archer]

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/279-82/10548-focus-obama-more-conser
vative-than-reagan 

[FairfieldLife] JFK and the Shah

[Yifu]

1962
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[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> > > The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories 
> > > about the boogieman. Be careful of what exactly, and how do 
> > > you know that? Do Santa and this guy share a database about 
> > > our goodness? If they are both watching us sleeping does 
> > > that mean they watch us doing the wild thing? Is the whole 
> > > world just God's porno channel?
> 
> Ahem. One of the funniest and most perceptive paragraphs
> ever written to FFL, in my opinion. Really. If God has
> nothing better to do than to play peeper on my sex life,
> then of what use is He?

I wish I could take credit for it but I definitely stole the concept, I just 
forget from whom!  Bill Maher or Louis CK probably. Calling the world God's 
porno channel was my contribution to blasphemous debauchery!  




>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you 
> > > > didn't know, but now be careful.
> > > 
> > > Do statements like this make religious people feel powerful 
> > > or something? If you crack a book on the history of religions you 
> > > will find hundreds of versions of people claiming to "know" \> > > > this 
> > > kind of thing. It is so back water, provincial, lamo 
> > > assumptivness. 
> > 
> > Curtis, I think you are reacting to Bucks rather provincial, 
> > conservative stance which even in the context of the TM 
> > movement seems kind of backwater. He is quoting Swami 
> > Brahmananda Saraswati.
> 
> To assume that Curtis does not know this could be 
> perceived as insulting. I choose not to do so.  :-)
> 
> > > The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories 
> > > about the boogieman. Be careful of what exactly, and how do 
> > > you know that? Do Santa and this guy share a database about 
> > > our goodness? If they are both watching us sleeping does 
> > > that mean they watch us doing the wild thing? Is the whole 
> > > world just God's porno channel?
> 
> Ahem. One of the funniest and most perceptive paragraphs
> ever written to FFL, in my opinion. Really. If God has
> nothing better to do than to play peeper on my sex life,
> then of what use is He?
> 
> > We do not know the context of this lecture Brahmananda gave, 
> > who he was talking to, though it seems he was giving a general 
> > lecture to Hindus to encourage them to seek enlightnement. 
> 
> Why should the audience matter, unless you believe that
> some audiences are "more evolved" or "better" than others?
> Just askin'. If you're trying to make the case that some
> gurus' raps are more valuable than others, but it all depends
> upon Who They Were Talking To At The Time, I'm not buyin'. :-)
> 
> > Out of context though it might be misunderstood. 
> 
> Like being taken literally, as if what was said was what
> was really being said? 
> 
> > Buck just rather mindlessly posts these things in my opionion. 
> > As Buck seems to have a kind of old time religiosity, it grates 
> > on those that have a more up-to-date outlook on life.
> 
> Or those who have outgrown spiritual grade school.
> 
> > > > After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then 
> > > > you have sold a diamond at the price of spinach.>
> > > 
> > > Which version of God out of the thousands proposed by people 
> > > throughout history? Are you as "sure" of your version as 
> > > fundamentalist Christians? Would you strap bombs on your body 
> > > to prove your point, are you that sure, cuz plenty of people 
> > > are. If confidence is the criteria you are way in the back of 
> > > the line.
> > 
> > Whatever Brahmananda's experience was, it had something to do 
> > with 40 years of silence in the forest etc., so I doubt it would 
> > correspond with the sky god images the more fundamentalist 
> > Western or Eastern religions have. Even MMY said that a 
> > religion is basically what you have left over when the 
> > experience of enlightenment has departed from a tradition.
> 
> Seems to me you are assuming that Brahmananda *had* such 
> experiences. I do not. The ONLY person who has ever tried
> to sell me on the idea that he did was Maharishi, who
> arguably did so in the context of selling his own products.
> 
> > > > Do good works without hesitation.
> > > 
> > > I just did by taking the time to bust a myth.
> > 
> > Enlightenment is mythbusting in the extreme. 
> 
> IF it exists, as described.
> 
> > After all if life in ignorance is an illusion...
> 
> IF this is true, and not just more spiritual BS.
>

[FairfieldLife] The hypocrisy of Barack Obama on display below:

[wgm4u]

Touts the pipeline at the same time preventing it! What a joker!

Chellie Mills Reporting KFOR-TV

March 20, 2012

CUSHING, Okla. -- The President is scheduled to speak in Payne County this 
Thursday morning. It may be rural Oklahoma, but when it comes to pipelines, 
it's the Capitol. The President is expected to talk about energy, though many 
in that industry are not impressed.

They are even planning to protest his visit, calling it a political ploy more 
than a genuine interest.

Mike Cantrell with the Domestic Energy Producers Alliance says, "For the last 
three years he's been anti-fossil fuels."

Mickey Thompson, an energy industry expert and political analyst, says, "He 
calls our industry an industry of the past and they'd like us to go away."


The President is expected to mention his support for a pipeline running from 
Payne County to the gulf; it's the southern end of the "Keystone XL Pipeline."

Industry experts say while his support for the southern end is welcome, it's 
not needed.

They build pipelines in the country all the time without needing presidential 
approval.

The President's "green light" is only needed for approximately 50 feet on the 
northern end of the pipeline; that segment would cross the Canadian border.

So far the President has delayed that project.

Thompson says, "The President is using this, frankly, as a publicity stunt to 
say he's doing something against high gas prices."

Cantrell says, "We take exception to the hypocrisy of standing before the 
largest crude oil facility in the world and saying anything about energy."

Thompson and others in the industry are planning to be in Payne County with 
their equipment as a protest to what the President has to say.

Thompson says, "We don't think it's disrespectful to the office of the 
President to come to Cushing as people in the oil and gas business to say, 'We 
don't buy this.'"

It's unclear how much of Thursday's protest will be witnessed by President 
Obama.

The event isn't open to the public or the protesters.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > I took the test. For some reason, I am given the rating 
> > of 2nd level of hell. Also, that is supposed to mean I 
> > am lustful. ... Mentions, "Very High."   
> > I also scored, "Very High," as a Heretic. 
> > I am confused.
> > Could someone give me a more colorful picture of my score?
> 
> In an MUM environment, I suspect that this means 
> that when you have a vision of a hunky Hindu god
> who in non-heretics would inspire worship, you
> want to jump His bones. 
> 
> Glad to help.  :-)
>
Thanks!
The trunk IS rather appealing.  All the arms too. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Immigration Tension

[emptybill]

Such BS.

After the normal reactive oppession, Dar-as-Salam will render it all
mute.
Better learn some Salat, blanko now or  kiss your Caucasian arse
goodbye.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Given that the thorny subject of immigration has come up
> here, I'll comment on the latest immigrant backlash in
> Europe. It seems to be taking place in Toulouse, France.
> In recent days several paratroopers (all North African
> ethnically) stationed there were killed by drive-by
> shooters, and now a Jewish school has been similarly
> targeted, resulting in the deaths of one rabbi and
> several children.
>
> The French will portray it as terrorism, not anti-Semitism,
> and crack down hard. I've lived in France. You just cannot
> imagine how hard they come down when the word "terrorisme"
> is invoked. The reaction will not be pretty.
>
> But neither are the shooters, whoever they were, and what-
> ever drove them to do what they did. If I had to put a
> name to the mindset I think is driving such acts, I would
> not associate it with any belief system or religion or
> anything like that. I would call it Generalized Impotent
> Rage. The people who do things like this -- in any country
> IMO -- are just ANGRY. They feel oppressed, or discriminated
> against, or part of a "special" minority that isn't treated
> as "special" by the majority of people in the country, and
> in their hearts they know that they are largely incapable
> of doing much about any of these things. In desperation,
> they take advantage of the media and descend into terrorist
> acts such as these. And then the governments overreact, and
> the situation perpetuates itself.
>
> All of this reminds me of seeing the Alfonso Cuaron film
> "Children Of Men" in a theater in Dublin. My brother and I
> found ourselves surrounded by an audience primarily composed
> of immigrants, watching a film about what the UK was going
> to eventually do to handle the "immigrant problem." That is,
> round them up, ship them off to internment camps, and then
> put them on boats and "send them back where they came from."
> What added to the poignancy of the film was the knowledge --
> in my brother and myself and in all of the immigrants in
> the theater with us -- that the UK was *already* well
> underway into making this film a reality.
>
> Immigration is IMO the biggest problem we'll ALL be facing
> in the next few decades, no matter where we live. There are
> few graceful solutions to it, and many horrific ones. My
> suspicion is that the horrific ones will be more common
> than the graceful ones.
>

[FairfieldLife] FCC decision v right wing radio dominance

[Susan]

FCC decision strikes critical blow to right-wing radio dominance

By Stephen C. Webster
Tuesday, March 20, 2012 13:02 EDT

159
 

Topics: fcc ♦ prometheus radio project
 
A Federal Communications Commission (FCC) decision issued Monday (PDF) will 
clear the runway for hundreds of new community radio stations that broadcast on 
low-power FM signals, bringing progressive, community voices to urban areas 
that have for decades only known what's being broadcast by major corporations 
and America's political right.

In other words, the dismantling of Rush Limbaugh was just the beginning, and 
the whole FM dial is next.

The FCC's decision on Monday wipes away a massive backlog of applications for 
FM repeater stations, which are transmitters that repeat signals broadcast by 
corporate radio operators — all of which rake in big dollars from the most 
popular right-wing syndicated talk shows going.


"So, what a lot of right-wing, conservative radio stations have been able to do 
is expand their reach out in communities by just having these translators out 
in the wild, which is why Rush Limbaugh gets the type of audience that he has — 
because the networks take one signal and repeat it over and over and over 
across the dial all over the country," Steven Renderos, national organizer with 
the Center for Media Justice, told Raw Story on Tuesday. "They're constantly 
looking for opportunities to expand that, so there were a slew of these 
applications pending at the FCC."

And that's been the case ever since the FCC's radio spectrum auction in 2003, 
which has led many activists to fear they would be forever choked out and kept 
away from the public airwaves. But after a long battle, activists with the 
Prometheus Radio Project have finally won.

"Now these right-wing radio networks won't keep getting their translator 
applications approved," Renderos added. "That will severely limit their ability 
to expand."

The FCC's decision also set clear criteria for community radio stations in 
heavily populated urban areas, which are otherwise bombarded by the endless 
droning of commercial media full of snide opinion masquerading as news.

"These [new, low power] stations can only be licensed to non-profit 
organizations, and you can only have one per customer," Brandy Doyle, policy 
director for the Prometheus Radio Project, told Raw Story. "That way we won't 
have these big corporate chains and media networks that are taking over the 
rest of the media landscape moving in on low power FM service. These stations 
have to be local, and they have to be independent. This clears the way for a 
real transformation of the FM dial."

Instead of slowly grinding down thousands of repeater station applications that 
leave no room for community radio, the FCC essentially threw most of those 
applications away by limiting who can apply, how many filings a single entity 
can make, and which markets can consider new repeaters — all of which frees up 
the regulatory body to examine applications for new community stations. The 
regulatory agency still gave some deference to corporate broadcasters, however, 
by allowing them one shot at revising their applications to fit the new 
guidelines.


That means "as early as this fall, as in 2012, there will be opportunities for 
local community groups to plan and start their own independent radio stations," 
Doyle said. "This is what we've fought for [over] more than a decade, and the 
FCC has opened the door to that."

While there aren't any official numbers yet, several "radio geeks" who spoke to 
Raw Story off the record estimated that as many as 10,000 applications for 
community radio stations could be filed in the coming years.

Prometheus activists and local radio affiliates all over the country played a 
dramatic role in helping shape media coverage of the "Occupy" movement last 
year, providing a sharp contrast to the often detached approach taken by 
mainstream, corporate sources. Their influence was broad enough to remind many 
listeners that community radio — an otherwise rare commodity in the U.S. — is 
often the dissenter's best friend.

Though the FCC's decision may not sound all that important, it really is. For 
the first time in decades, Americans living in major cities will soon be 
hearing the voices of their friends and neighbors flooding the airwaves — a far 
cry from the typical morning DJ fart jokes and the same "top hit" songs 
endlessly droning on a looping playback.

"Right now the Center for Media Justice is part of a national partnership with 
Prometheus Radio Project and Color of Change to try and identify organizations 
across the country — social and racial justice organizations — that could 
potentially benefit from owning and running their own radio station," Renderos 
said. "What we hope to see in 5-10 years is a coordinated infrastructure of 
radio that doesn't necessarily parallel what's on the right, that at least 
helps to project a very different type of

[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you 
> > > didn't know, but now be careful.
> > 
> > Do statements like this make religious people feel powerful 
> > or something? If you crack a book on the history of religions you 
> > will find hundreds of versions of people claiming to "know" \> > > > this 
> > kind of thing. It is so back water, provincial, lamo 
> > assumptivness. 
> 
> Curtis, I think you are reacting to Bucks rather provincial, 
> conservative stance which even in the context of the TM 
> movement seems kind of backwater. He is quoting Swami 
> Brahmananda Saraswati.

To assume that Curtis does not know this could be 
perceived as insulting. I choose not to do so.  :-)

> > The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories 
> > about the boogieman. Be careful of what exactly, and how do 
> > you know that? Do Santa and this guy share a database about 
> > our goodness? If they are both watching us sleeping does 
> > that mean they watch us doing the wild thing? Is the whole 
> > world just God's porno channel?

Ahem. One of the funniest and most perceptive paragraphs
ever written to FFL, in my opinion. Really. If God has
nothing better to do than to play peeper on my sex life,
then of what use is He?

> We do not know the context of this lecture Brahmananda gave, 
> who he was talking to, though it seems he was giving a general 
> lecture to Hindus to encourage them to seek enlightnement. 

Why should the audience matter, unless you believe that
some audiences are "more evolved" or "better" than others?
Just askin'. If you're trying to make the case that some
gurus' raps are more valuable than others, but it all depends
upon Who They Were Talking To At The Time, I'm not buyin'. :-)

> Out of context though it might be misunderstood. 

Like being taken literally, as if what was said was what
was really being said? 

> Buck just rather mindlessly posts these things in my opionion. 
> As Buck seems to have a kind of old time religiosity, it grates 
> on those that have a more up-to-date outlook on life.

Or those who have outgrown spiritual grade school.

> > > After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then 
> > > you have sold a diamond at the price of spinach.>
> > 
> > Which version of God out of the thousands proposed by people 
> > throughout history? Are you as "sure" of your version as 
> > fundamentalist Christians? Would you strap bombs on your body 
> > to prove your point, are you that sure, cuz plenty of people 
> > are. If confidence is the criteria you are way in the back of 
> > the line.
> 
> Whatever Brahmananda's experience was, it had something to do 
> with 40 years of silence in the forest etc., so I doubt it would 
> correspond with the sky god images the more fundamentalist 
> Western or Eastern religions have. Even MMY said that a 
> religion is basically what you have left over when the 
> experience of enlightenment has departed from a tradition.

Seems to me you are assuming that Brahmananda *had* such 
experiences. I do not. The ONLY person who has ever tried
to sell me on the idea that he did was Maharishi, who
arguably did so in the context of selling his own products.

> > > Do good works without hesitation.
> > 
> > I just did by taking the time to bust a myth.
> 
> Enlightenment is mythbusting in the extreme. 

IF it exists, as described.

> After all if life in ignorance is an illusion...

IF this is true, and not just more spiritual BS.

[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you didn't know, 
> >> but now be careful.
> > 
> > Do statements like this make religious people feel powerful or something? 
> > If you crack a book on the history of religions you will find hundreds of 
> > versions of people claiming to "know" this kind of thing. It is so back 
> > water, provincial, lamo assumptivness. 
> 
> Curtis, I think you are reacting to Bucks rather provincial, conservative 
> stance which even in the context of the TM movement seems kind of backwater. 
> He is quoting Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.

I knew who the quote came from.  I consider him to be more provincial than the 
Buck persona. I heard all the hype about the guy from Maharishi when I was all 
bought in.  But when I read all the quotes on Paul Mason's site I realized that 
this was another Fundamentalist, ethnocentric Hindu.  I consider him on the 
same level as any Christian fundamentalist.  Guru Dev supported the caste 
system and I am against it.  Not some idealized fantasy of the caste system,the 
one in India when he was alive.

> 
> > 
> > The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories about the 
> > boogieman. Be careful of what exactly, and how do you know that? Do Santa 
> > and this guy share a database about our goodness? If they are both watching 
> > us sleeping does that mean they watch us doing the wild thing? Is the whole 
> > world just God's porno channel?
> 
> We do not know the context of this lecture Brahmananda gave, who he was 
> talking to, though it seems he was giving a general lecture to Hindus to 
> encourage them to seek enlightnement. Out of context though it might be 
> misunderstood. Buck just rather mindlessly posts these things in my opionion. 
> As Buck seems to have a kind of old time religiosity, it grates on those that 
> have a more up-to-date outlook on life.

I believe I have all the context I need on the guy.  He was supporting the 
traditional religious status quo. We have a bunch of his writings to get a 
sense for the guy,have you checked out Paul's site?  It is pretty consistent 
and not that hard to match if you study Hinduism at all.

> 
> >> After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then you have sold a 
> >> diamond at the price of spinach.>
> > 
> > Which version of God out of the thousands proposed by people throughout 
> > history? Are you as "sure" of your version as fundamentalist Christians? 
> > Would you strap bombs on your body to prove your point, are you that sure, 
> > cuz plenty of people are. If confidence is the criteria you are way in the 
> > back of the line.
> 
> Whatever Brahmananda's experience was, it had something to do with 40 years 
> of silence in the forest etc., so I doubt it would correspond with the sky 
> god images the more fundamentalist Western or Eastern religions have. Even 
> MMY said that a religion is basically what you have left over when the 
> experience of enlightenment has departed from a tradition.>

I may not share your assumptions about what that guy was experiencing and I am 
not so impressed with his homeless lifestyle living on parkland.  I judge the 
guy from what came out of his mouth, and it wasn't anything that amazed me.

> 
> >>> Do good works without hesitation.>
> > 
> > I just did by taking the time to bust a myth.
> 
> Enlightenment is mythbusting in the extreme. After all if life in ignorance 
> is an illusion, then our idea of enlightenment is part of that ignorance so 
> whatever we think we know at this stage of the game is going to be wiped off 
> the map if we actually make progress.>

So many assumptions about what these inner experiences mean.  I just don't 
share them.

> 
> >>> The Jiva has been experiencing samsara for many many births. It is only 
> >>> natural, therefore, that its tendencies have become worldly. To turn its 
> >>> tendency toward Paramatma and away from samsara requires effort. In 
> >>> reality, the aim of life is to stop the mind from involvement with this 
> >>> world.>
> > 
> > You need to get a life then cuz my world rocks. These world denying beliefs 
> > are the opposite of brings joy to my life. This a version of Turn on tune 
> > in drop out, Tim Leary talk.
> > 
> > 
> >  > speaking about Him, the mind will start to dwell on Him, and after some 
> > time, it will withdraw from samsara on its own.>
> > 
> > This is actually a refutation of Maharishi's whole teaching and shows that 
> > Guru Dev is just another fundamentalist Hindu.
> 
> This is probably like a technique, applied for certain people at a certain 
> time (like before 1953). Maybe it was of use then, in India. >

It is just super religious guy 101, don't you recognize it?  I have heard it in 
so many forms. 



Or Zeus mig

[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>>
>> Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you didn't know, but 
>> now be careful.
> 
> Do statements like this make religious people feel powerful or something? If 
> you crack a book on the history of religions you will find hundreds of 
> versions of people claiming to "know" this kind of thing. It is so back 
> water, provincial, lamo assumptivness. 

Curtis, I think you are reacting to Bucks rather provincial, conservative 
stance which even in the context of the TM movement seems kind of backwater. He 
is quoting Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.

> 
> The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories about the 
> boogieman. Be careful of what exactly, and how do you know that? Do Santa and 
> this guy share a database about our goodness? If they are both watching us 
> sleeping does that mean they watch us doing the wild thing? Is the whole 
> world just God's porno channel?

We do not know the context of this lecture Brahmananda gave, who he was talking 
to, though it seems he was giving a general lecture to Hindus to encourage them 
to seek enlightnement. Out of context though it might be misunderstood. Buck 
just rather mindlessly posts these things in my opionion. As Buck seems to have 
a kind of old time religiosity, it grates on those that have a more up-to-date 
outlook on life.

>> After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then you have sold a 
>> diamond at the price of spinach.>
> 
> Which version of God out of the thousands proposed by people throughout 
> history? Are you as "sure" of your version as fundamentalist Christians? 
> Would you strap bombs on your body to prove your point, are you that sure, 
> cuz plenty of people are. If confidence is the criteria you are way in the 
> back of the line.

Whatever Brahmananda's experience was, it had something to do with 40 years of 
silence in the forest etc., so I doubt it would correspond with the sky god 
images the more fundamentalist Western or Eastern religions have. Even MMY said 
that a religion is basically what you have left over when the experience of 
enlightenment has departed from a tradition.

>>> Do good works without hesitation.>
> 
> I just did by taking the time to bust a myth.

Enlightenment is mythbusting in the extreme. After all if life in ignorance is 
an illusion, then our idea of enlightenment is part of that ignorance so 
whatever we think we know at this stage of the game is going to be wiped off 
the map if we actually make progress.

>>> The Jiva has been experiencing samsara for many many births. It is only 
>>> natural, therefore, that its tendencies have become worldly. To turn its 
>>> tendency toward Paramatma and away from samsara requires effort. In 
>>> reality, the aim of life is to stop the mind from involvement with this 
>>> world.>
> 
> You need to get a life then cuz my world rocks. These world denying beliefs 
> are the opposite of brings joy to my life. This a version of Turn on tune in 
> drop out, Tim Leary talk.
> 
> 
>  speaking about Him, the mind will start to dwell on Him, and after some time, 
> it will withdraw from samsara on its own.>
> 
> This is actually a refutation of Maharishi's whole teaching and shows that 
> Guru Dev is just another fundamentalist Hindu.

This is probably like a technique, applied for certain people at a certain time 
(like before 1953). Maybe it was of use then, in India. It would not work for 
me, since I have no defined concept of spiritual beings or gods, they are all 
just the same to me. Zeus, YHWH, Allah, Thor. These are names applied to 
various concepts people have had and have. If one takes the trouble one might 
be able to comprehend something of what these things represent to various 
people. For example Zeus, my favorite because he is the king of the gods, can 
represent just an icon in an ancient temple, or a rather diffuse concept like 
Einstein's or Spinoza's use of the word 'god', which hardly corresponds to the 
way the typical person seems to imagine what this word means.

 "In our daily affairs we should adopt a strategy of quickly attending to 
 good works and things related to the divine. Should any wrong thought 
 arise, on the other hand, we should try to postpone it to another time by 
 saying, "I'll do it tomorrow or the day after next." In this way wrong 
 action can be continuously postponed."
> 
> "To be born a human being is more fortunate than to be born a deva.
> 
> Taking birth as a deva is considered comparable to taking birth as any 
> other life form. Birth as a god is attained by those who perform certain 
> sacrifices and karma, etc. associated with divinity, with the intention 
> to enjoy divine pleasures. The minds of the devatas wander incessantly 
> because of the abundance of enjoyable things in the heavenly realms

[FairfieldLife] The Test Of Time

[turquoiseb]

With the rest of my household away and the house all to myself, I have
had the opportunity to indulge in my baser passions. No...sorry to
disappoint, not sex orgies. Movie and TV orgies. I've gotten the chance
to kick back and re-watch a number of my favorite films and TV series to
see if they still meet my criteria for "favorite." There definitely are
criteria.

First, the movie or TV series (or book, for that matter, but this is a
rap about movies and TV), has to leave me unfulfilled. In the sense that
as the last scene ends, my first thought is, "Damn that was good. I want
to watch it again, from start to finish. Right now." Often I do exactly
that.

Second, to really make it to my Favorites List, the movie or TV series
has to be better on the second viewing. And the third. And the fourth.
And...well, you get the picture. My favorites get better with *every*
viewing. In each viewing I see things I had missed before, or see them
in different ways. They only get better and better, and *never* leave me
with the feeling that I have "seen this before," that I have explored
all there is to explore and learned all there is to learn from this
movie or TV series.

Why this subject comes to mind is that, in anticipation of the season 2
of "Game Of Thrones" starting soon, I decided to re-watch season 1. And
I loved it. Every minute of it.

But on another level, it didn't get better for me. It definitely whet my
appetite for season 2, but a few months down the line something about
the story and the characters didn't "grab" me the same way it did in my
first viewing. It didn't stand The Test Of Time. I can honestly give you
no rational reason why this happened. GoT is still a *marvelous* series,
arguably the best fantasy-novel-transliterated-to-the-screen ever made.
Everything about it screams "quality" and devotion to detail. But for
some reason it didn't grab me the way it did on first viewing. Go
figure.

So I decided to dive into and re-watch another TV series that not only
is a "keeper" on my Favorites List, it's pretty much at the top of that
list. People who have borne with my obsessions here in the past will
know that I'm talking about "Firefly." I'm now in the process of
re-watching it, probably for the twentieth time. And it's better than
the first time I saw it. Go figure.

What IS it that makes this happen? For me, part of the issue is the
overall milieu of the film or series, and whether it sucks me into its
world. And of course the story has to be a good one, one that I want to
hear, over and over. But the kicker is always the characterization --
are these people who capture my attention and make me identify with them
and *feel* for them and...basically...fall in love with them the first
time I meet them, and then continue to make me do these same things for
years?

So if I don't post as much as usual the next few days, you will know the
reason. I'm keeping company with other companions. So to speak. (This is
a joke only fellow Browncoats are likely to get.) These companions are
as familiar to me as any of you at FFL, and possibly more real. I don't
know whether any of you guys really exist unless you post. With the crew
of Serenity, they're there every time I pop the disk into the player.
And they're consistently funnier. :-)

All of them.

Think of that. In most TV scifi/adventure/action series, only one or two
of the characters get to be funny. In the Whedonverse, all of them do.
My kinda place.

[FairfieldLife] Today is the First Day of Spring!

[John]

Wishing you all the joy of spring or the vernal equinox!  

JR

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> I took the test. For some reason, I am given the rating 
> of 2nd level of hell. Also, that is supposed to mean I 
> am lustful. ... Mentions, "Very High."   
> I also scored, "Very High," as a Heretic. 
> I am confused.
> Could someone give me a more colorful picture of my score?

In an MUM environment, I suspect that this means 
that when you have a vision of a hunky Hindu god
who in non-heretics would inspire worship, you
want to jump His bones. 

Glad to help.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[obbajeeba]

I took the test. For some reason, I am given the rating of 2nd level of hell. 
Also, that is supposed to mean I am lustful.
... Mentions, "Very High."   
I also scored, "Very High," as a Heretic. 
I am confused.
Could someone give me a more colorful picture of my score?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > So where are you going to end up? Hopefully a place with lots of great 
> > food, hot guys and a shooting range.
> > 
> 
> In the afterlife I'll be in the Azores sipping pina coladas and humping pool 
> boys while you're in heaven pumping a harmonium. I'll send you a post card.
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ha! I found it!
> > > 
> > > Dante's Inferno Test - Impurity, Sin... and Damnation
> > > http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv
> > > 
> > > Purgatory Repending Believers Moderate
> > > Level 1 - Limbo   Virtuous Non-Believers  Moderate
> > > Level 2   Lustful High
> > > Level 3   Gluttonous  High
> > > Level 4   Prodigal and Avaricious Low
> > > Level 5   Wrathful and Gloomy Very Low
> > > Level 6 - The City of Dis HereticsVery Low
> > > Level 7   Violent High
> > > Level 8 - The Malebolge   Fraudulent, Malicious, PanderersModerate
> > > Level 9 - Cocytus Treacherous Low
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey, Ann. Where's the link to the levels of hell test? I need to find 
> > > > my peeps. Limbo for lumbago. Dig it. It's da bomba.  
> > > > http://youtu.be/5sbl78yz12E
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The results of the levels of hell test:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Level  Who are sent there?
> > > > >Score
> > > > > 
> > > > > Purgatory  Repenting Believers
> > > > >   Moderate
> > > > > Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-Believers  High
> > > > > Level 2Lustful
> > > > >   Low
> > > > > Level 3Gluttonous 
> > > > >   Moderate
> > > > > Level 4Prodigal and Avaricious  
> > > > > Very Low
> > > > > Level 5Wrathful and Gloomy
> > > > >   Low
> > > > > Level 6 -   The City of DisHeretics   
> > > > >   Very Low
> > > > > Level 7Violent
> > > > >   Moderate
> > > > > Level 8 -   The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious Moderate
> > > > > Level 9 - Cocytus  Treacherous
> > > > >   Moderate
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sounds like it is Limbo for me. Does that mean I might be shimmying 
> > > > > under a low pole for a good long while (ouch)? Or else it sounds 
> > > > > pretty boring. Either way, I think I'd rather be in heaven. That 
> > > > > wasn't an option of this test though. They seem to assume that 
> > > > > everyone is going to end up in some form of hell. I thought that was 
> > > > > Earth and I was there already.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Woodrow Wilson in Dover, England

[Yifu]

1918:

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/7/61533.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: National Debt MORE under Obama than under Bush

[Bhairitu]

Absolutely!.  It's like the Republicans went into a restaurant, ran up a 
bill and then ran out on it.  Republicans are scum!

On 03/20/2012 11:28 AM, chris m wrote:
> If the National dept was 15 Billion as you say inhireted brom Bush and has 
> rissen to 15 Billion, then it has only gone up a third dumbie. and rember the 
> economy was shedding 800,000 jobs per month when Obama begain office, now we 
> are gaing severaly hundreds of thousands of jobs.
> the fact is Bush almost ran us off a cliff and Obama saved the US from a 
> 2nd world depression.
> People are smarter than you think and don't buy your GOP bullshit!!!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>>
>> [http://adlog.com.com/adlog/i/r=14617&sg=1815&o=250%253a503544%253aB5035\
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>> mmon/dotclear.gif]  National Debt
>> has increased more under Obama than under Bush By  Mark Knoller
>> 
>> Topics Campaign 2012
>> 
>> [Chart - Deficit 2012]  (Credit: CBS)  (CBS News) The National Debt has
>> now increased more during  President Obama's three years and two months
>> in office than it did  during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.
>> The  Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush
>> presidency.  It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama
>> took office.
>>
>> The  latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury
>> Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It
>> was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which
>> coincided with President Obama's first day.
>>
>> The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic
>> Product, the total value of goods and services.
>>
>> Mr.  Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt,
>> saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug
>> program with borrowed funds.
>>
>> The federal budget sent to  Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects
>> the National Debt will  continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The
>> budget shows the Debt  hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in
>> 2013 and $25.9  trillion in 2022.
>>
>> Federal budget records show the  National Debt once topped 121% of GDP
>> at the end of World War II. The  Debt that year, 1946, was, by today's
>> standards, a mere $270 billion  dollars.
>>
>> Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt  much, though he does want
>> to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget  deficit, though it's
>> topped a trillion dollars for four years now.
>>
>> As  part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking
>> responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending
>> wherever we find it."
>>
>> His latest budget projects a $1.3  trillion deficit this year declining
>> to $901 billion in 2012, and then  annual deficits in the range of $500
>> billion to $700 billion in the 10  years to come.
>>
>> If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his  budget projections prove
>> accurate, the National Debt will top $20  trillion in 2016, the final
>> year of his second term. That would mean the  Debt increased by 87
>> percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
>>
>>
>>  *Mark Knoller
>> 
>> Mark Knoller is a CBS News White House correspondent.
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris - Islam and the future of Liberalism

[Yifu]

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-and-the-future-of-liberalism

[FairfieldLife] Re: National Debt MORE under Obama than under Bush

[chris m]

If the National dept was 15 Billion as you say inhireted brom Bush and has 
rissen to 15 Billion, then it has only gone up a third dumbie. and rember the 
economy was shedding 800,000 jobs per month when Obama begain office, now we 
are gaing severaly hundreds of thousands of jobs.
   the fact is Bush almost ran us off a cliff and Obama saved the US from a 2nd 
world depression.
   People are smarter than you think and don't buy your GOP bullshit!!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> 
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> mmon/dotclear.gif]  National Debt
> has increased more under Obama than under Bush By  Mark Knoller
>  
> Topics Campaign 2012
> 
> [Chart - Deficit 2012]  (Credit: CBS)  (CBS News) The National Debt has
> now increased more during  President Obama's three years and two months
> in office than it did  during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.
> The  Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush
> presidency.  It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama
> took office.
> 
> The  latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury 
> Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It 
> was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which 
> coincided with President Obama's first day.
> 
> The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic
> Product, the total value of goods and services.
> 
> Mr.  Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt,
> saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug 
> program with borrowed funds.
> 
> The federal budget sent to  Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects
> the National Debt will  continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The
> budget shows the Debt  hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in
> 2013 and $25.9  trillion in 2022.
> 
> Federal budget records show the  National Debt once topped 121% of GDP
> at the end of World War II. The  Debt that year, 1946, was, by today's
> standards, a mere $270 billion  dollars.
> 
> Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt  much, though he does want
> to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget  deficit, though it's
> topped a trillion dollars for four years now.
> 
> As  part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking 
> responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending
> wherever we find it."
> 
> His latest budget projects a $1.3  trillion deficit this year declining
> to $901 billion in 2012, and then  annual deficits in the range of $500
> billion to $700 billion in the 10  years to come.
> 
> If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his  budget projections prove
> accurate, the National Debt will top $20  trillion in 2016, the final
> year of his second term. That would mean the  Debt increased by 87
> percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
> 
> 
> *Mark Knoller
> 
> Mark Knoller is a CBS News White House correspondent.
>

[FairfieldLife] National Debt MORE under Obama than under Bush

[wgm4u]

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mmon/dotclear.gif]  National Debt
has increased more under Obama than under Bush By  Mark Knoller
 
Topics Campaign 2012

[Chart - Deficit 2012]  (Credit: CBS)  (CBS News) The National Debt has
now increased more during  President Obama's three years and two months
in office than it did  during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.
The  Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush
presidency.  It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama
took office.

The  latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury 
Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It 
was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which 
coincided with President Obama's first day.

The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic
Product, the total value of goods and services.

Mr.  Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt,
saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug 
program with borrowed funds.

The federal budget sent to  Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects
the National Debt will  continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The
budget shows the Debt  hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in
2013 and $25.9  trillion in 2022.

Federal budget records show the  National Debt once topped 121% of GDP
at the end of World War II. The  Debt that year, 1946, was, by today's
standards, a mere $270 billion  dollars.

Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt  much, though he does want
to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget  deficit, though it's
topped a trillion dollars for four years now.

As  part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking 
responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending
wherever we find it."

His latest budget projects a $1.3  trillion deficit this year declining
to $901 billion in 2012, and then  annual deficits in the range of $500
billion to $700 billion in the 10  years to come.

If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his  budget projections prove
accurate, the National Debt will top $20  trillion in 2016, the final
year of his second term. That would mean the  Debt increased by 87
percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.


*Mark Knoller

Mark Knoller is a CBS News White House correspondent.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Is that the same Paul Krugman that used to be an
> > Enron economic advisor?
> >
Rick Archer:
> It's the Paul Krugman that was found in an independent 
> study to be the most accurate political prognosticator:
>
Maybe so, except by some of his colleagues at the liberal 
New York Times. Go figure.

"Former New York Times "public editor" Daniel Okrent is 
clawing out the eyes of America's most dangerous liberal 
pundit, Paul Krugman. The fur is flying as Okrent cites 
case after case of Krugman's inaccuracy and partisan 
bias in all manner of economic statistics..." 

'Krugman Smackdown!'
http://tinyurl.com/83vc4mq

'13 Things I Meant to Write About but Never Did'
By Daniel Okrent
The New York Times, May 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/7jw29s9

> "Krugman hasn't forgotten the fact that, dating 
> back to the early days of this site, we have 
> repeatedly documented his misrepresentations, his 
> misleading omissions, his outright lies, and his 
> hysterical fabrications." - John Hinderaker
> 
> 'Why Paul Krugman Doesn't Like Us'
> Powerline, March 5, 2012
> http://tinyurl.com/7sykaam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu:
> Who says alternative medicine doesn't work?
>
"The greatest wealth is health." - Virgil

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Bhairitu]

On 03/20/2012 08:21 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> Bhairitu:
>> Yup, Obamacare needs to be replaced by single
>> payer heath care like first world countries
>> have.
>>
> Only wealthy nations, like the United Kingdom and
> Canada have health insurance that is free for ALL
> it's citizens. A single-payer system is NOT the
> same thing as universal 'health care'.
>
>> And do away with those scam artist health
>> insurance companies while we're at it. ;-)
>>
> Do away with Medicare? You're not making any sense.

Did I NOT say "insurance companies"?  Medicare is NOT an insurance company.

> Medicare and the VA ARE single-payer healthcare
> systems, but they are restricted to senior citizens
> and military service!
>
> Without insurance of some kind, you'd have to pay
> your total health care bill, in cash, out of your
> own pocket. :-(

Total health care bill for the last 11 years has been the overpriced 
premiums from Blue Cross.  They didn't have to pay out a thing. Who says 
alternative medicine doesn't work?

Re: [FairfieldLife] movie: In a Better World

[Bhairitu]

On 03/19/2012 03:39 PM, Susan wrote:
> Bary and Bhairitu,
>
> If you are looking for a good movie -
>
> A week ago I got from Netflix In a Better World, a Danish film that you both 
> might like.  It won both the Academy Award and the Golden Globe for best 
> foreign language film  in  2010.  It is about the friendship of 2 young boys, 
> growing up, facing bullies and monsters (both as children and as adults), 
> parent issues, the relationship between fathers and sons.   Takes place both 
> in rural Denmark and a refugee camp in Africa (where one father works as a 
> doctor).   Beautifully acted, too.  Liked it a lot.

Thanks, I put it in the queue.  I have "Carnage" coming today which got 
good reviews.  I also have "Mozart's Sister" in my queue but moved it 
down a bit because it's listed with Instant "coming soon" so no need to 
have the disc sent.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:49 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

 

  



Rick Archer:
> Paul Krugman's Op-Ed yesterday...
> 
Is that the same Paul Krugman that used to be an 
Enron economic advisor?

 

It's the Paul Krugman that was found in an independent study to be the most
accurate political prognosticator:

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/130485/claim-krugman-is-top-pro
gnosticator-cal-thomas-is-the-worst/

http://tinyurl.com/7yr95t4

Conservative, evangelical Christian Cal Thomas was found to be the worst.



"I predict that in the years ahead Enron, not Sept. 
11, will come to be seen as the greater turning 
point in U.S. society." - Paul Krugman

'The Great Divide'
By Paul Krugman
The New York Times, January 29, 2002
http://tinyurl.com/7fr5l34

"Krugman hasn't forgotten the fact that, dating 
back to the early days of this site, we have 
repeatedly documented his misrepresentations, his 
misleading omissions, his outright lies, and his 
hysterical fabrications." - John Hinderaker

'Why Paul Krugman Doesn't Like Us'
Powerline, March 5, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/7sykaam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Rick Archer:
> > Paul Krugman's Op-Ed yesterday...
> > 
> Is that the same Paul Krugman that used to be an 
> Enron economic advisor?
> 
> "I predict that in the years ahead Enron, not Sept. 
> 11, will come to be seen as the greater turning 
> point in U.S. society." - Paul Krugman
> 
> 'The Great Divide'
> By Paul Krugman
> The New York Times, January 29, 2002
> http://tinyurl.com/7fr5l34
> 
> "Krugman hasn't forgotten the fact that, dating 
> back to the early days of this site, we have 
> repeatedly documented his misrepresentations, his 
> misleading omissions, his outright lies, and his 
> hysterical fabrications." - John Hinderaker
> 
> 'Why Paul Krugman Doesn't Like Us'
> Powerline, March 5, 2012
> http://tinyurl.com/7sykaam
>

Truth has a well known liberal bias that usually causes the rightwing to shit 
its pants. They clean up by rewriting history based on truthiness, because it 
*feels* like truth. It's a foolproof defense mechanism for assholes. The 
Propaganda Febreze wafting over the Wurlitzer airwaves 24/7 at [Un]Clear 
Channel only accentuates the stink of the rightwing Borg ruled by corporate 
masters. You shall know them by their smell.

"In early 1999, Krugman served on an advisory panel (including Larry Lindsey 
and Robert Zoellick) that offered Enron executives briefings on economic and 
political issues. He resigned from the panel in the fall of 1999 to comply with 
The New York Times rules regarding conflicts of interest, when he accepted the 
Times's offer to become an op-ed columnist. Krugman later stated that he was 
paid $37,500 (not $50,000 as often reported - his early resignation cost him 
part of his fee), and that, for consulting that required him to spend four days 
in Houston, the fee was "rather low compared with my usual rates", which were 
around $20,000 for a one-hour speech. He also stated that the advisory panel 
"had no function that I was aware of", and that he later interpreted his role 
as being "just another brick in the wall" Enron used to build an image.

When the story of Enron's corporate scandals broke two years later, Krugman was 
accused of unethical journalism, specifically of having a conflict of interest. 
Some of his critics claimed that "The Ascent of E-man," an article Krugman 
wrote for Fortune magazine about the rise of the market as illustrated by 
Enron's energy trading, was biased by Krugman's earlier consulting work for 
them. Krugman later argued that "The Ascent of E-Man" was in character, writing 
"I have always been a free-market Keynesian: I like free markets, but I want 
some government supervision to correct market failures and ensure stability." 
Krugman noted his previous relationship with Enron in that article and in other 
articles he wrote on the company. Krugman was one of the first to argue that 
deregulation of the California energy market had led to market manipulation by 
energy companies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens when a Raja dies? Who gets the crown?

[Richard J. Williams]

> > > Why would the TMO give away the title when they 
> > > can put it up for sale again?
> > >
> > Because your brother is a TMO Raja and you should 
> > get the crown when he dies, because you're his next 
> > of kin and because you gave thousands of dollars 
> > in donations and because you're a pundit that lives 
> > down the road from Vedic City, Iowa?
> >
nablusoss1008: 
> So when you steal a technique from the man who gave 
> it to you, teach it, pocketing the money is the 
> driving force behind this treacherous act ?
> 
Well, I'm not in full agreement with Vaj that MMY 
'stole' the 'TM' technique from SBS, sold it and then 
pocketed the money, any more than I'd agree that 
Patanjali 'stole' yoga from Shakya the Muni.

Whose 'TM' is it, anyway? 

"There is obviously a glaring need for someone to 
produce rudimentary elements of what mantra/yantra is 
and its relationship to Sanskrit and Creation to a 
certain extent as evidenced by the garbage I keep 
seeing on this subject." - Mike Dubbeld

> I see. It's clear now.
>
I Can See Clearly Now

"I can see clearly now the rain has gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day
It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day

I think I can make it now the rain has gone
All of the bad feelings have disappeared
Here is that rainbow that I've been waiting for

It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day

Look all around - there nothing but blue skies
Look straight ahead - nothing but blue skies

I can see clearly now the rain has gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day
It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day
It's gonna be a bright, bright sun shiny day"

Johnny Nash:
http://youtu.be/r1MjRp0ys5I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Richard J. Williams]

Bhairitu:
> Yup, Obamacare needs to be replaced by single 
> payer heath care like first world countries 
> have.
>
Only wealthy nations, like the United Kingdom and 
Canada have health insurance that is free for ALL 
it's citizens. A single-payer system is NOT the 
same thing as universal 'health care'.

> And do away with those scam artist health 
> insurance companies while we're at it. ;-)
> 
Do away with Medicare? You're not making any sense.

Medicare and the VA ARE single-payer healthcare 
systems, but they are restricted to senior citizens 
and military service!

Without insurance of some kind, you'd have to pay 
your total health care bill, in cash, out of your 
own pocket. :-(

[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you didn't know, but 
> now be careful.

Do statements like this make religious people feel powerful or something? If 
you crack a book on the history of religions you will find hundreds of versions 
of people claiming to "know" this kind of thing.  It is so back water, 
provincial, lamo assumptivness. 

The whole ominous "be careful" smacks of children's stories about the 
boogieman.  Be careful of what exactly, and how do you know that?  Do Santa and 
this guy share a database about our goodness?  If they are both watching us 
sleeping does that mean they watch us doing the wild thing?  Is the whole world 
just God's porno channel?

> 
> After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then you have sold a 
> diamond at the price of spinach.>

Which version of God out of the thousands proposed by people throughout 
history?  Are you as "sure" of your version as fundamentalist Christians?  
Would you strap bombs on your body to prove your point, are you that sure, cuz 
plenty of people are.  If confidence is the criteria you are way in the back of 
the line.

> >
> > Do good works without hesitation.>

I just did by taking the time to bust a myth.


> > 
> > The Jiva has been experiencing samsara for many many births.  It is only 
> > natural, therefore, that its tendencies have become worldly.  To turn its 
> > tendency toward Paramatma and away from samsara requires effort.  In 
> > reality, the aim of life is to stop the mind from involvement with this 
> > world.>

You need to get a life then cuz my world rocks.  These world denying beliefs 
are the opposite of brings joy to my life.  This a version of Turn on tune in 
drop out, Tim Leary talk.




This is actually a refutation of Maharishi's whole teaching and shows that Guru 
Dev is just another fundamentalist Hindu.

> > > 
> > > "In our daily affairs we should adopt a strategy of quickly attending to 
> > > good works and things related to the divine.  Should any wrong thought 
> > > arise, on the other hand, we should try to postpone it to another time by 
> > > saying, "I'll do it tomorrow or the day after next."  In this way wrong 
> > > action can be continuously postponed."
> > > > 
> > > > "To be born a human being is more fortunate than to be born a deva.
> > > > 
> > > > Taking birth as a deva is considered comparable to taking birth as any 
> > > > other life form.  Birth as a god is attained by those who perform 
> > > > certain sacrifices and karma, etc. associated with divinity, with the 
> > > > intention to enjoy divine pleasures.  The minds of the devatas wander 
> > > > incessantly because of the abundance of enjoyable things in the 
> > > > heavenly realms, and hence they cannot perform purushartha, actions 
> > > > consistent with the goals of human life and evolution.   For this 
> > > > reason, the human birth is considered superior, because here, by doing 
> > > > as much purushartha as possible, one can eventually become one with 
> > > > God."

This guy should have met Walt Disney, their minds are very similar.


> > > > >
> > > > > "A human being is like a lump of pure gold, whereas gods are like 
> > > > > pieces of jewelry.  Having been perfected as jewelry, their 
> > > > > progression is complete and they cannot be further improved.  On the 
> > > > > other hand, gold which has not yet been crafted by the jewelry is 
> > > > > completely unrestricted in its potential.  Hence the birth of a human 
> > > > > being is said to be the very best birth for action.  Having attained 
> > > > > this birth, one should not act carelessly, but should conscientiously 
> > > > > perform the best purushartha.  Strive to become one with God in this 
> > > > > lifetime.  Have firm faith in the Vedas and Shastras and keep the 
> > > > > company of saints, mahatmas and wise people.  Only then will the 
> > > > > purpose of your life be fulfilled."

Uh, I don't know how to say this...uh

You see saints and you aren't gittin in the dome brotha.  So somebody is full 
of it.  Now considering the fact that Maharishi was always against people 
visiting saints on their own I'd say you have a guru problem.  Don't blame it 
on the Rajas, Maharishi was an anti competition guy all the way.

This is really funny.  We should put them on Celebrity Death Match stop 
animation cartoons and let them slug it out for your eternal soul...

you know if you had one.








> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Rally Against ObamaCare

[Richard J. Williams]

Rick Archer:
> Paul Krugman's Op-Ed yesterday...
> 
Is that the same Paul Krugman that used to be an 
Enron economic advisor?

"I predict that in the years ahead Enron, not Sept. 
11, will come to be seen as the greater turning 
point in U.S. society." - Paul Krugman

'The Great Divide'
By Paul Krugman
The New York Times, January 29, 2002
http://tinyurl.com/7fr5l34

"Krugman hasn't forgotten the fact that, dating 
back to the early days of this site, we have 
repeatedly documented his misrepresentations, his 
misleading omissions, his outright lies, and his 
hysterical fabrications." - John Hinderaker

'Why Paul Krugman Doesn't Like Us'
Powerline, March 5, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/7sykaam

[FairfieldLife] Re: "To get a Human Body is a Rare Thing -make full use of it."

[Buck]

Whatever may have happened up until now may be because you didn't know, but now 
be careful.

After getting a human body, if you don't reach God, then you have sold a 
diamond at the price of spinach.
>
> Do good works without hesitation.
> 
> The Jiva has been experiencing samsara for many many births.  It is only 
> natural, therefore, that its tendencies have become worldly.  To turn its 
> tendency toward Paramatma and away from samsara requires effort.  In reality, 
> the aim of life is to stop the mind from involvement with this world.  If one 
> engages in spiritual practice of Bhagavan and in thinking and speaking about 
> Him, the mind will start to dwell on Him, and after some time, it will 
> withdraw from samsara on its own.
> > 
> > "In our daily affairs we should adopt a strategy of quickly attending to 
> > good works and things related to the divine.  Should any wrong thought 
> > arise, on the other hand, we should try to postpone it to another time by 
> > saying, "I'll do it tomorrow or the day after next."  In this way wrong 
> > action can be continuously postponed."
> > > 
> > > "To be born a human being is more fortunate than to be born a deva.
> > > 
> > > Taking birth as a deva is considered comparable to taking birth as any 
> > > other life form.  Birth as a god is attained by those who perform certain 
> > > sacrifices and karma, etc. associated with divinity, with the intention 
> > > to enjoy divine pleasures.  The minds of the devatas wander incessantly 
> > > because of the abundance of enjoyable things in the heavenly realms, and 
> > > hence they cannot perform purushartha, actions consistent with the goals 
> > > of human life and evolution.   For this reason, the human birth is 
> > > considered superior, because here, by doing as much purushartha as 
> > > possible, one can eventually become one with God."
> > > >
> > > > "A human being is like a lump of pure gold, whereas gods are like 
> > > > pieces of jewelry.  Having been perfected as jewelry, their progression 
> > > > is complete and they cannot be further improved.  On the other hand, 
> > > > gold which has not yet been crafted by the jewelry is completely 
> > > > unrestricted in its potential.  Hence the birth of a human being is 
> > > > said to be the very best birth for action.  Having attained this birth, 
> > > > one should not act carelessly, but should conscientiously perform the 
> > > > best purushartha.  Strive to become one with God in this lifetime.  
> > > > Have firm faith in the Vedas and Shastras and keep the company of 
> > > > saints, mahatmas and wise people.  Only then will the purpose of your 
> > > > life be fulfilled."
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> So where are you going to end up? Hopefully a place with lots of great food, 
> hot guys and a shooting range.
> 

In the afterlife I'll be in the Azores sipping pina coladas and humping pool 
boys while you're in heaven pumping a harmonium. I'll send you a post card.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Ha! I found it!
> > 
> > Dante's Inferno Test - Impurity, Sin... and Damnation
> > http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv
> > 
> > Purgatory   Repending Believers Moderate
> > Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-Believers  Moderate
> > Level 2 Lustful High
> > Level 3 Gluttonous  High
> > Level 4 Prodigal and Avaricious Low
> > Level 5 Wrathful and Gloomy Very Low
> > Level 6 - The City of Dis   HereticsVery Low
> > Level 7 Violent High
> > Level 8 - The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious, PanderersModerate
> > Level 9 - Cocytus   Treacherous Low
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey, Ann. Where's the link to the levels of hell test? I need to find my 
> > > peeps. Limbo for lumbago. Dig it. It's da bomba.  
> > > http://youtu.be/5sbl78yz12E
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The results of the levels of hell test:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > LevelWho are sent there?   
> > > > Score
> > > > 
> > > > PurgatoryRepenting Believers
> > > >   Moderate
> > > > Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-BelieversHigh
> > > > Level 2  Lustful
> > > >   Low
> > > > Level 3  Gluttonous   
> > > > Moderate
> > > > Level 4  Prodigal and Avaricious  Very Low
> > > > Level 5  Wrathful and Gloomy  
> > > > Low
> > > > Level 6 -   The City of Dis  Heretics 
> > > > Very Low
> > > > Level 7  Violent
> > > >   Moderate
> > > > Level 8 -   The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious Moderate
> > > > Level 9 - Cocytus  Treacherous
> > > > Moderate
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like it is Limbo for me. Does that mean I might be shimmying 
> > > > under a low pole for a good long while (ouch)? Or else it sounds pretty 
> > > > boring. Either way, I think I'd rather be in heaven. That wasn't an 
> > > > option of this test though. They seem to assume that everyone is going 
> > > > to end up in some form of hell. I thought that was Earth and I was 
> > > > there already.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[awoelflebater]

So where are you going to end up? Hopefully a place with lots of great food, 
hot guys and a shooting range.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Ha! I found it!
> 
> Dante's Inferno Test - Impurity, Sin... and Damnation
> http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv
> 
> Purgatory Repending Believers Moderate
> Level 1 - Limbo   Virtuous Non-Believers  Moderate
> Level 2   Lustful High
> Level 3   Gluttonous  High
> Level 4   Prodigal and Avaricious Low
> Level 5   Wrathful and Gloomy Very Low
> Level 6 - The City of Dis HereticsVery Low
> Level 7   Violent High
> Level 8 - The Malebolge   Fraudulent, Malicious, PanderersModerate
> Level 9 - Cocytus Treacherous Low
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Hey, Ann. Where's the link to the levels of hell test? I need to find my 
> > peeps. Limbo for lumbago. Dig it. It's da bomba.  
> > http://youtu.be/5sbl78yz12E
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > >
> > > The results of the levels of hell test:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Level  Who are sent there?   
> > > Score
> > > 
> > > Purgatory  Repenting Believers  
> > > Moderate
> > > Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-Believers  High
> > > Level 2Lustful
> > >   Low
> > > Level 3Gluttonous   
> > > Moderate
> > > Level 4Prodigal and Avaricious  Very Low
> > > Level 5Wrathful and Gloomy  
> > > Low
> > > Level 6 -   The City of DisHeretics 
> > > Very Low
> > > Level 7Violent
> > >   Moderate
> > > Level 8 -   The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious Moderate
> > > Level 9 - Cocytus  Treacherous  
> > > Moderate
> > > 
> > > Sounds like it is Limbo for me. Does that mean I might be shimmying under 
> > > a low pole for a good long while (ouch)? Or else it sounds pretty boring. 
> > > Either way, I think I'd rather be in heaven. That wasn't an option of 
> > > this test though. They seem to assume that everyone is going to end up in 
> > > some form of hell. I thought that was Earth and I was there already.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Men are "from" Nokia?! :D

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> Beyond the Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus angle, the survey also 
> asked people when they expect to buy their next device, and 32 percent said 
> they have no plans to replace their phone in the next month. The survey also 
> asked what brand they expect their next device to be, and the most popular 
> response was Nokia (!), at 37 percent. Apple came in second with 25 percent, 
> and it also had impressive brand loyalty — of people who currently own an 
> iPhone, 90 percent said they would stick with it for their next purchase.
> 
> http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/19/when-it-comes-to-phones-men-are-more-price-sensitive-according-to-vuclip/
>

Seems like the upcoming series of Jupiter's conjunction transits in Taurus with 
the stellium of four (Mercury, Pluto, Venus, Sun) might be capable of 
counteracting the Fifth Saturn Return of Nokia's 1865 chart, that's been a 
burden for Nokia almost four(?) years now (the time Saturn has been in 
[tropical] Libra). The SR shall be accurate for the last time in almost 30 
years, next August!

[FairfieldLife] Men are "from" Nokia?! :D

[cardemaister]

Beyond the Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus angle, the survey also asked 
people when they expect to buy their next device, and 32 percent said they have 
no plans to replace their phone in the next month. The survey also asked what 
brand they expect their next device to be, and the most popular response was 
Nokia (!), at 37 percent. Apple came in second with 25 percent, and it also had 
impressive brand loyalty — of people who currently own an iPhone, 90 percent 
said they would stick with it for their next purchase.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/19/when-it-comes-to-phones-men-are-more-price-sensitive-according-to-vuclip/

[FairfieldLife] Karen Richards: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 03/20/2012

[Rick Archer]

blog updates from


Buddha at the Gas Pump


   


published 03/20/2012


115. Karen Richards – 2nd Interview 

 

Mar 19, 2012 05:17 pm | Rick

>From Karen’s site: In February 2008 at the age of thirty-three, Karen 
>experienced a sudden and radical awakening. Prior to this realisation, no 
>teachings or practices were followed – in fact at that time the terms 
>non-duality and awakening were … Continue reading  
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[FairfieldLife] A "cure" for homosexuality that only Catholics could think up

[turquoiseb]

Finally, an answer to the age-old question, "What happens when the
normally-rational Dutch are indoctrinated with the insanity of religion?
Which wins?" This story -- with homosexual, child-abusing priests
justifying the castration of their own victims as a "cure" for
homosexuality -- brings the concept of self-hatred to new levels.
Dutch Roman Catholic Church Castrated Boys As 'Treatment' For
HomosexualityShocking reports have surfaced that reveal at least ten
teenage boys  were castrated in the 1950s by the Dutch Roman Catholic
Church as a  "treatment" for homosexuality, the Telegraph reports
 .
Dutch journalist Joep Dohmen, reporting for the NRC Handelsblad
   uncovered ten cases of the castrations, one of
which was suffered by  Henk Heithuis, who was castrated as a minor for
reporting to police  sexual abuse by a priest that he endured while in
the boarding home.

Although the priests were convicted of the abuses, Heithuis was still 
transported to a Catholic hospital, and underwent a surgical castration 
as a treatment for homosexuality and, according to the report, a 
punishment for tattling on the clergy.

Radio Netherlands Worldwide reports
   that the new information wasn't included in the large
Deetman  Commission report published three months ago on sexual abuses
in the  church -- and furthermore -- that the commission received a
complaint  about the castrations last year, but claimed there was a
"lack of  sufficient leads" to warrant an investigation.

The reports also uncovered minutes of official meetings held in the 
1950s, which revealed directors of the Catholic institutions deciding 
parents did not need to be involved in decisions -- even with minors,
Dutch News reports
 . They also proved government officials were present in
meetings where the castrations were discussed.

The Deetman Commission, led by Wim Deetman, was founded by the  Catholic
church in 2010 following widespread reports of sexual abuse in  the
church. In their report, the commission found the number of victims  who
grew up in church institutions to be between 10,000 and 20,000
 .

[FairfieldLife] Finally, a movie to look forward to!

[turquoiseb]

Saw a clip/interview/preview on BBC1 this morning of the new 
film from Aardman studios. It appears to be a historically-
accurate (one scene shows a swordfight between Charles Darwin
and Queen Victoria) pirate adventure, starring Hugh Grant, 
Brendan Gleeson, Jeremy Piven, Salma Hayek, Martin Freeman, 
Imelda Staunton and a host of others. 

Or their voices, at least. Aardman is, of course, the animation
studio founded by the great Nick Park, creator of the Wallace
and Grommit series. For those who do not know of those two
classic characters, 1) you've really missed out, and 2) they're
done via classic, frame-by-frame animation. Peter Lord, director
of the new film, said that the length of time it would take one
person to animate 30 seconds of film containing two characters
using this technique would be six weeks. The new film sometimes
has 20 to 30 characters onscreen at the same time. Due out at 
the end of March.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqtcj20Z778

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIxECXjW1I

[FairfieldLife] Never quarrel!

[cardemaister]

Hitopadesha:

shataM dadyaan, na vivadet -
  iti vijñasya saMmatam.
vinaa hetum api dvandvam -
  etan muurkhasya lakSanam.

Give way a hundred times and never quarrel -
this is the principle of the wise. Fighting
without a cause is a sign of stupidity.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/6853197858/in/photostream/lightbox/

[FairfieldLife] Re: more tests galore

[raunchydog]

Ha! I found it!

Dante's Inferno Test - Impurity, Sin... and Damnation
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv

Purgatory   Repending Believers Moderate
Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-Believers  Moderate
Level 2 Lustful High
Level 3 Gluttonous  High
Level 4 Prodigal and Avaricious Low
Level 5 Wrathful and Gloomy Very Low
Level 6 - The City of Dis   HereticsVery Low
Level 7 Violent High
Level 8 - The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious, PanderersModerate
Level 9 - Cocytus   Treacherous Low

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Hey, Ann. Where's the link to the levels of hell test? I need to find my 
> peeps. Limbo for lumbago. Dig it. It's da bomba.  
> http://youtu.be/5sbl78yz12E
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > The results of the levels of hell test:
> > 
> > 
> > LevelWho are sent there?   
> > Score
> > 
> > PurgatoryRepenting Believers  
> > Moderate
> > Level 1 - Limbo Virtuous Non-BelieversHigh
> > Level 2  Lustful
> >   Low
> > Level 3  Gluttonous   
> > Moderate
> > Level 4  Prodigal and Avaricious  Very Low
> > Level 5  Wrathful and Gloomy  
> > Low
> > Level 6 -   The City of Dis  Heretics 
> > Very Low
> > Level 7  Violent
> >   Moderate
> > Level 8 -   The Malebolge Fraudulent, Malicious Moderate
> > Level 9 - Cocytus  Treacherous
> > Moderate
> > 
> > Sounds like it is Limbo for me. Does that mean I might be shimmying under a 
> > low pole for a good long while (ouch)? Or else it sounds pretty boring. 
> > Either way, I think I'd rather be in heaven. That wasn't an option of this 
> > test though. They seem to assume that everyone is going to end up in some 
> > form of hell. I thought that was Earth and I was there already.
> >
>