[FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Very interesting. Both people who imagine they are transcendent and those who accept the experiential view of enlightenment often fail to understand that life’s number one value is non-injury. Non-injury is the most valuable value because reality is non-dual. Non-duality means that you and I are non-separate. I will only injure something other than myself. Furthermore this fact implies that I love everyone as I love myself…because they are myself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : A Fallen Yogi - by James Swartz Recently I received an email with a link to a web blog by a reasonably famous teacher, Andrew Cohen. He said he was stepping down so that he could work on himself and become a ‘better person.’ It was a surprising event because arrogant people invariably live in an ironclad state of denial, the better to project their emotional problems on others. In any case he is definitely a slow learner…evidently the chorus of angry voices that has followed him for twenty- seven years swelled to such a din that it became too loud to ignore. His statement will undoubtedly be seen as a courageous act of contrition, the uplifting resolve of a reprobate taking the first halting steps on the road to redemption. We wish him well and hope that he becomes the person he needs to be. The real lesson here is not his personal story but what it says about his view of enlightenment, since it was behind this view that he perpetrated so much misery. Had he been taught by a proper teacher…he was one of the first Papaji Neos…he might have actually known what enlightenment is and hundreds of people would have been spared so much heartache. Papaji, a shaktipat guru, propounded the experiential view of enlightenment. Mr. Cohen was obviously not enlightened by even the most liberal definition. What he called enlightenment was merely a ‘deep awakening,’ an epiphany that had a profound effect on his ego. It convinced him that there was something ‘more’ than his way of seeing. It convinced him wrongly, that ‘he’ was ‘enlightened.’ In fact. enlightenment, as it is popularly conceived, is not enlightenment because enlightenment is not a special experience, an ‘awakening.’ It is the hard and fast knowledge, “I am awareness, the ‘light.’ It is not something that happens because you, awareness, were never unenlightened. You are unborn and never die. Experiences are born and die. They do not change you, make you into something else. If you take yourself to be an ego, an experiencing entity, you will be apparently modified by what happens to you, spiritual or otherwise. We do not like the word ‘enlightenment’ because of its experiential connotations but if you insist on using it, enlightenment is simply shedding ignorance of one’s nature as awareness. It is not the gain of a special state or status. Any experience is only as good as the interpretation of it. If I am awareness there is no way to conclude that I am special or unique and that I have something that you don’t, because everyone and everything is awareness. The understanding I am awareness neutralizes the ego, because the ego is just a notion of specialness and uniqueness. It does not mean that the ego disappears or is transcended. It means that it is known for what it is, an idea of separateness appearing in me, awareness. We do not doubt the profundity of Mr. Cohen’s experience. We question his interpretation. Because anyone is free to define enlightenment in any way he or she chooses, he is free to call his epiphany enlightenment. However, it should be noted that most of the mischief in the spiritual world in the last thirty years from Muktananda to Osho and Adi Da right up the present…the examples of fallen gurus are too numerous to mention…can be laid squarely at the feet of the experiential view of enlightenment. What actually happened? Under the spell of apparent ignorance, the self …limitless awareness… mistook itself for an experiencing entity, an ego, had a particular type of experience known as an ‘awakening’, declared itself enlightened and imagined that it had transcended itself. It came to believe that it now inhabited a special experiential niche reserved only for the few and that said experience empowered it to enlighten others not so blessed. Evidently, in Mr. Cohen’s case his exalted status came with the companion belief that the end justifies the means, opening the door to abusive ‘teaching’. This is the story: an ordinary ego had an extraordinary experience, one that changed its idea of itself but little else. The impurities that were there before the epiphany survived…as they do…and immediately out pictured when the experience ended…with predictable results. I recall hearing many stories of abuse at Mr. Cohen’s hands over the last twenty plus years. The enlightenment scenario he envisioned, which he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. One based his world teaching on striking his students in public and on driving out supposed demons from within them. The very *belief* that there is a demon world populated by beings who oppose the good world is based in dualism, and is a product of this faux-enlightened teacher's Christian hangups, not any experience of actual Unity. If he had really been experiencing Unity, and seeing the world in terms of Self, where within that seeing is the room for demons? The other has gone on record many times about his willingness to harm others *if he feels the need to to so*, and has a long, long track record of attempting to use harmful and abusive language on this forum to make people he doesn't like feel bad about themselves. Even when his feeble attempts to do this don't work, he claims they do anyway, and *exults* in the suffering he believes he's caused these people. Again, which part of his Self does this ass-clown think he's harming? Finally, compare and contrast to Maharishi himself, as conservative and knee-jerk a right-winger who has ever existed. From his early The way to ensure peace is to build a bigger bomb to his endorsement of the mythical Krishna telling people in the Bhagavad-Gita to go out and murder their own family members in the name of dharma, to his declaring an *entire nation* unworthy of being saved by yanking TM teaching away from it. And that's ignoring the passive-agressive harm he did to millions of Indians by taking wealth he'd extorted from wealthy Westerners, smuggling it into India, and then -- rather than using it to help people -- giving it to his own family members instead. We've all seen the faked photos of the supposed charitable projects the money was ostensibly used for -- groups of the same people moved around from one false-front location to the next to make it look as if there were actually large groups of people there. What part of Self did he think it was OK for him to harm by *his* actions? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad Very interesting. Both people who imagine they are transcendent and those who accept the experiential view of enlightenment often fail to understand that life’s number one value is non-injury. Non-injury is the most valuable value because reality is non-dual. Non-duality means that you and I are non-separate. I will only injure something other than myself. Furthermore this fact implies that I love everyone as I love myself…because they are myself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : A Fallen Yogi - by James Swartz Recently I received an email with a link to a web blog by a reasonably famous teacher, Andrew Cohen. He said he was stepping down so that he could work on himself and become a ‘better person.’ It was a surprising event because arrogant people invariably live in an ironclad state of denial, the better to project their emotional problems on others. In any case he is definitely a slow learner…evidently the chorus of angry voices that has followed him for twenty- seven years swelled to such a din that it became too loud to ignore. His statement will undoubtedly be seen as a courageous act of contrition, the uplifting resolve of a reprobate taking the first halting steps on the road to redemption. We wish him well and hope that he becomes the person he needs to be. The real lesson here is not his personal story but what it says about his view of enlightenment, since it was behind this view that he perpetrated so much misery. Had he been taught by a proper teacher…he was one of the first Papaji Neos…he might have actually known what enlightenment is and hundreds of people would have been spared so much heartache. Papaji, a shaktipat guru, propounded the experiential view of enlightenment. Mr. Cohen was obviously not enlightened by even the most liberal definition. What he called enlightenment was merely a ‘deep awakening,’ an epiphany that had a profound effect on his ego. It convinced him that there was something ‘more’ than his way of seeing. It convinced him wrongly, that ‘he’ was ‘enlightened.’ In fact. enlightenment, as it is popularly conceived, is not enlightenment because enlightenment is not a special experience, an ‘awakening.’ It is the hard and fast knowledge, “I am awareness, the ‘light.’ It is not something that happens because you, awareness, were never unenlightened. You are unborn and never die. Experiences are born and die. They do not change you, make you into something else. If you take yourself to be an ego, an experiencing entity, you will be apparently modified by what happens to you, spiritual
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!
Funnily enough, I just noticed them on the shelf at our local health food store, right along with the coconut water and fizzy juice drinks. On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:37 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Cinnamon pecans! A box of nuts and chews for me, supplemented by two Mexican Cokes - arriba! (unlike the corn syrup US made Cokes, these are all cane sugar, made and bottled under license, in Mexico, and they come in the old style glass bottles - not sure if they are available in other parts of the US, outside of California). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Hey I just got 14 molasses suckers and a bag of cinnamon pecans. Life is good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I was looking at a rider mower with a cup holder, and cruise control. Rig a boom box on the back, and be the talk of the neighborhood! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks. Wife still out of town. Gonna try to get the 21 year old to cut the grass like he's been promising to do. May go to HuHot with the daughter for dinner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Happy Father's Day to all the dads on here, and all those dads who brought us up in this world. Happy Father's Day!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote:I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] LightMint Gone Bad
This is the best thing I have read in a long time - absolutely and perfectly describes all the hucksters and liars out there amongst the spiritual teachers. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] LightMint Gone Bad A Fallen Yogi - by James Swartz Recently I received an email with a link to a web blog by a reasonably famous teacher, Andrew Cohen. He said he was stepping down so that he could work on himself and become a ‘better person.’ It was a surprising event because arrogant people invariably live in an ironclad state of denial, the better to project their emotional problems on others. In any case he is definitely a slow learner…evidently the chorus of angry voices that has followed him for twenty- seven years swelled to such a din that it became too loud to ignore. His statement will undoubtedly be seen as a courageous act of contrition, the uplifting resolve of a reprobate taking the first halting steps on the road to redemption. We wish him well and hope that he becomes the person he needs to be. The real lesson here is not his personal story but what it says about his view of enlightenment, since it was behind this view that he perpetrated so much misery. Had he been taught by a proper teacher…he was one of the first Papaji Neos…he might have actually known what enlightenment is and hundreds of people would have been spared so much heartache. Papaji, a shaktipat guru, propounded the experiential view of enlightenment. Mr. Cohen was obviously not enlightened by even the most liberal definition. What he called enlightenment was merely a ‘deep awakening,’ an epiphany that had a profound effect on his ego. It convinced him that there was something ‘more’ than his way of seeing. It convinced him wrongly, that ‘he’ was ‘enlightened.’ In fact. enlightenment, as it is popularly conceived, is not enlightenment because enlightenment is not a special experience, an ‘awakening.’ It is the hard and fast knowledge, “I am awareness, the ‘light.’ It is not something that happens because you, awareness, were never unenlightened. You are unborn and never die. Experiences are born and die. They do not change you, make you into something else. If you take yourself to be an ego, an experiencing entity, you will be apparently modified by what happens to you, spiritual or otherwise. We do not like the word ‘enlightenment’ because of its experiential connotations but if you insist on using it, enlightenment is simply shedding ignorance of one’s nature as awareness. It is not the gain of a special state or status. Any experience is only as good as the interpretation of it. If I am awareness there is no way to conclude that I am special or unique and that I have something that you don’t, because everyone and everything is awareness. The understanding I am awareness neutralizes the ego, because the ego is just a notion of specialness and uniqueness. It does not mean that the ego disappears or is transcended. It means that it is known for what it is, an idea of separateness appearing in me, awareness. We do not doubt the profundity of Mr. Cohen’s experience. We question his interpretation. Because anyone is free to define enlightenment in any way he or she chooses, he is free to call his epiphany enlightenment. However, it should be noted that most of the mischief in the spiritual world in the last thirty years from Muktananda to Osho and Adi Da right up the present…the examples of fallen gurus are too numerous to mention…can be laid squarely at the feet of the experiential view of enlightenment. What actually happened? Under the spell of apparent ignorance, theself …limitless awareness… mistook itself for an experiencing entity, an ego, had a particular type of experience known as an ‘awakening’, declared itself enlightened and imagined that it had transcended itself. It came to believe that it now inhabited a special experiential niche reserved only for the few and that said experience empowered it to enlighten others not so blessed. Evidently, in Mr. Cohen’s case his exalted status came with the companion belief that the end justifies the means, opening the door to abusive ‘teaching’. This is the story: an ordinary ego had an extraordinary experience, one that changed its idea of itself but little else. The impurities that were there before the epiphany survived…as they do…and immediately out pictured when the experience ended…with predictable results. I recall hearing many stories of abuse at Mr. Cohen’s hands over the last twenty plus years. The enlightenment scenario he envisioned, which he obviously did not critically examine, is classic duality. It amounts to splitting the ego into a transcendental self and a self to be transcended. To make this idea work, the ego needs to be in a state of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!
Oh, yeah, I remember the Coors thing. It was because they only brewed beer from their local springs and didn't have wide distribution, back then. I lived in Colorado briefly, and toured the Coors plant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : oh yes, we live a few block away from the Hispanic area. they are quite prevalent, and even seem to be cropping up in places you don't expect them. probably everyone remembers when it was a big deal to get Coors Beer. Whenever you knew someone going to Colorado, it was always, bring me back some Coors. Not for me cuz I never was a beer drinker, but that was always the buzz. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Cinnamon pecans! A box of nuts and chews for me, supplemented by two Mexican Cokes - arriba! (unlike the corn syrup US made Cokes, these are all cane sugar, made and bottled under license, in Mexico, and they come in the old style glass bottles - not sure if they are available in other parts of the US, outside of California). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Hey I just got 14 molasses suckers and a bag of cinnamon pecans. Life is good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I was looking at a rider mower with a cup holder, and cruise control. Rig a boom box on the back, and be the talk of the neighborhood! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks. Wife still out of town. Gonna try to get the 21 year old to cut the grass like he's been promising to do. May go to HuHot with the daughter for dinner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Happy Father's Day to all the dads on here, and all those dads who brought us up in this world. Happy Father's Day!
[FairfieldLife] Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect
A few years ago as I was first developing this Cartesian way of looking at mysticism and spiritual movements I drew it out on the back of an envelope and showed it then to an eminent scholar PhD in our field. He looked at it and laughed out saying, “Oh, I understand that! My wife is a PhD in mathematics.” It worked. -Buck. Yup, like in the recent thread here categorizing the BATGAP.COM spiritually awakened interviewees around describing a range in typology of mystical illumination. Those interviews then come as another good place for the Cartesian graph as help in getting a handle on de-mystifying the spiritual in the discussion. Charting using the Cartesian axis can become a great aid. With enough data-points one then could even start to do a calculus looking at relative rates of spiritual-change in individuals or groups in time. I find that I place them all by typology in to a scaled Cartesian coordinate graph with abiding-awakening running from the awakened-quietist up to awakened-pietist on the vertical axis as type by transformation, and then on the horizontal axis, the modality and/or a scale of organization or satsang around them. -Buck https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 386298Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types Last year I was at a conference and one paper that I thought really stood out for our purposes here was a completely objective paper on altruistic communalism which had absolutely no consideration of spirituality. The paper only considered relative organization and the value of doing or being in groups to people. In the end of the session it opened for questions. I had sat next to a white board listening to the paper so as a prelude to asking a question I quick drew on the white board an x-y axis and labeled the vertical as relative spiritual evolution from a low of narcissism to a high of illumination. On the horizontal axis using the paper's terms I put the relative altruistic evolutionary structure of organizations. And then made my point that his was a great analysis of altruistic aspect of organizations but by example I come from a community where we also look at it a little differently to include the spiritual component in communal groupings as a variable. The reaction in the group listening ranged from appreciation to the quite explosive, “you can't evaluate people that way!”. The most supportive came from a professor who while teaching full time at a university here in the US goes annually to India to study communal ashram living. That guy quoted and cited scholarship by example as he spoke about what I was saying. They guy who authored and presented the paper in that session in reaction acquiesced in the end by saying he did not know about spirituality and that it was not his area. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: A great start. I enjoy building models, too, mostly for business development and planning, and find the greatest fun in identifying and quantifying all of the different values, so that the model accurately represents real-world conditions. Yep, thanks for noticing and appreciating this. I have been working at developing this Cartesian graphing of mysticism as a thesis for a while as an aid in helping those people who are reserved or even flat out skeptical about spirituality to be better able to place mysticism and mystics within the histories of different spiritual/religious movements. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: horsing around - lol Yes, agreed. A very grounded approach to your reading methodology - I really loved reading the description, and the way it was so cleanly put together - brilliant, really. I am a total engineering freak, with a perennial billboard in my head, reading, How does it work?! - for anything -- from personal interaction, lasers, growth of consciousness, internal combustion engines, tides and surf, microwave ovens, music, dog food bag fill machines, all of it. Buck writing: More inclusively, I feel we would be nothing here on FFL without some of the lower scaled of illumination by example of some of these writers posting here. Theirs is also an important dissonance to the higher plane of spiritual discussion that can go on here. I always appreciate reading Turqb and that ignorant guy from South Carolina that way too. I find in Parsing the different writers posting on FFL as a practicality towards figuring out who to read and what to spend time on reading I tend to use the tool of a paired Cartesian graph to place people on and then read according to my time and interests as people are placed on the graph. For instance, on the vertical axis I quickly scale a writer based on their posting history from a low of aggravated narcissistic disorderliness, to just the
[FairfieldLife] Game of Thrones
Ironic that last nights episode was broadcast on Father's Day, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect
Yeah, I find that as more and more people gain enlightenment, there are many perspectives and comparisons to be made. It is like uncovering a long lost language, or experience. Many of the old texts that talk about this state of natural freedom are not useful for modern times, and householders, so it is a fun time, now, to see the truth or otherwise, of these early texts on enlightenment. Equally satisfying is being able to quickly put the lie to those who would keep enlightenment shadowy and vague, so as to exploit others for their desire for it. Or pointing out those making a mountain of their puny experiences, as a few have here, on FFL - ex-TM teachers, anyone?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : A few years ago as I was first developing this Cartesian way of looking at mysticism and spiritual movements I drew it out on the back of an envelope and showed it then to an eminent scholar PhD in our field. He looked at it and laughed out saying, “Oh, I understand that! My wife is a PhD in mathematics.” It worked. -Buck. Yup, like in the recent thread here categorizing the BATGAP.COM spiritually awakened interviewees around describing a range in typology of mystical illumination. Those interviews then come as another good place for the Cartesian graph as help in getting a handle on de-mystifying the spiritual in the discussion. Charting using the Cartesian axis can become a great aid. With enough data-points one then could even start to do a calculus looking at relative rates of spiritual-change in individuals or groups in time. I find that I place them all by typology in to a scaled Cartesian coordinate graph with abiding-awakening running from the awakened-quietist up to awakened-pietist on the vertical axis as type by transformation, and then on the horizontal axis, the modality and/or a scale of organization or satsang around them. -Buck https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 386298Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types Last year I was at a conference and one paper that I thought really stood out for our purposes here was a completely objective paper on altruistic communalism which had absolutely no consideration of spirituality. The paper only considered relative organization and the value of doing or being in groups to people. In the end of the session it opened for questions. I had sat next to a white board listening to the paper so as a prelude to asking a question I quick drew on the white board an x-y axis and labeled the vertical as relative spiritual evolution from a low of narcissism to a high of illumination. On the horizontal axis using the paper's terms I put the relative altruistic evolutionary structure of organizations. And then made my point that his was a great analysis of altruistic aspect of organizations but by example I come from a community where we also look at it a little differently to include the spiritual component in communal groupings as a variable. The reaction in the group listening ranged from appreciation to the quite explosive, “you can't evaluate people that way!”. The most supportive came from a professor who while teaching full time at a university here in the US goes annually to India to study communal ashram living. That guy quoted and cited scholarship by example as he spoke about what I was saying. They guy who authored and presented the paper in that session in reaction acquiesced in the end by saying he did not know about spirituality and that it was not his area. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: A great start. I enjoy building models, too, mostly for business development and planning, and find the greatest fun in identifying and quantifying all of the different values, so that the model accurately represents real-world conditions. Yep, thanks for noticing and appreciating this. I have been working at developing this Cartesian graphing of mysticism as a thesis for a while as an aid in helping those people who are reserved or even flat out skeptical about spirituality to be better able to place mysticism and mystics within the histories of different spiritual/religious movements. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: horsing around - lol Yes, agreed. A very grounded approach to your reading methodology - I really loved reading the description, and the way it was so cleanly put together - brilliant, really. I am a total engineering freak, with a perennial billboard in my head, reading, How does it work?! - for anything -- from personal interaction, lasers, growth of consciousness, internal combustion engines, tides and surf, microwave ovens, music, dog food bag fill machines, all of it. Buck writing: More inclusively, I feel we would be nothing here on FFL without some of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect
PS I overlooked your title. Yes, definitely - this guy, Andrew Cohen, was a total fake and abuser. A real jerk. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah, I find that as more and more people gain enlightenment, there are many perspectives and comparisons to be made. It is like uncovering a long lost language, or experience. Many of the old texts that talk about this state of natural freedom are not useful for modern times, and householders, so it is a fun time, now, to see the truth or otherwise, of these early texts on enlightenment. Equally satisfying is being able to quickly put the lie to those who would keep enlightenment shadowy and vague, so as to exploit others for their desire for it. Or pointing out those making a mountain of their puny experiences, as a few have here, on FFL - ex-TM teachers, anyone?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : A few years ago as I was first developing this Cartesian way of looking at mysticism and spiritual movements I drew it out on the back of an envelope and showed it then to an eminent scholar PhD in our field. He looked at it and laughed out saying, “Oh, I understand that! My wife is a PhD in mathematics.” It worked. -Buck. Yup, like in the recent thread here categorizing the BATGAP.COM spiritually awakened interviewees around describing a range in typology of mystical illumination. Those interviews then come as another good place for the Cartesian graph as help in getting a handle on de-mystifying the spiritual in the discussion. Charting using the Cartesian axis can become a great aid. With enough data-points one then could even start to do a calculus looking at relative rates of spiritual-change in individuals or groups in time. I find that I place them all by typology in to a scaled Cartesian coordinate graph with abiding-awakening running from the awakened-quietist up to awakened-pietist on the vertical axis as type by transformation, and then on the horizontal axis, the modality and/or a scale of organization or satsang around them. -Buck https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 386298Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types Last year I was at a conference and one paper that I thought really stood out for our purposes here was a completely objective paper on altruistic communalism which had absolutely no consideration of spirituality. The paper only considered relative organization and the value of doing or being in groups to people. In the end of the session it opened for questions. I had sat next to a white board listening to the paper so as a prelude to asking a question I quick drew on the white board an x-y axis and labeled the vertical as relative spiritual evolution from a low of narcissism to a high of illumination. On the horizontal axis using the paper's terms I put the relative altruistic evolutionary structure of organizations. And then made my point that his was a great analysis of altruistic aspect of organizations but by example I come from a community where we also look at it a little differently to include the spiritual component in communal groupings as a variable. The reaction in the group listening ranged from appreciation to the quite explosive, “you can't evaluate people that way!”. The most supportive came from a professor who while teaching full time at a university here in the US goes annually to India to study communal ashram living. That guy quoted and cited scholarship by example as he spoke about what I was saying. They guy who authored and presented the paper in that session in reaction acquiesced in the end by saying he did not know about spirituality and that it was not his area. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: A great start. I enjoy building models, too, mostly for business development and planning, and find the greatest fun in identifying and quantifying all of the different values, so that the model accurately represents real-world conditions. Yep, thanks for noticing and appreciating this. I have been working at developing this Cartesian graphing of mysticism as a thesis for a while as an aid in helping those people who are reserved or even flat out skeptical about spirituality to be better able to place mysticism and mystics within the histories of different spiritual/religious movements. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: horsing around - lol Yes, agreed. A very grounded approach to your reading methodology - I really loved reading the description, and the way it was so cleanly put together - brilliant, really. I am a total engineering freak, with a perennial billboard in my head, reading, How does it work?! - for anything -- from personal interaction, lasers, growth of consciousness, internal combustion
[FairfieldLife] M$'s Android-killer patents!
Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of Android-killer patents http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of And... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Microsoft crows about transparency, but it didn't reveal this list of 310 patents. View on arstechnica.com http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect
Does anyone else ever feel the urge to lift one of those megaphones used to announce things at political rallies and riots, point it in the direction of this ass-clown, and shout: WAKE THE FUCK UP, NUMNUTS! NO ONE BELIEVES YOU'RE ENLIGHTENED NO ONE STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF BY PRETENDING THEY DO From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 2:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect Yeah, I find that as more and more people gain enlightenment, there are many perspectives and comparisons to be made. It is like uncovering a long lost language, or experience. Many of the old texts that talk about this state of natural freedom are not useful for modern times, and householders, so it is a fun time, now, to see the truth or otherwise, of these early texts on enlightenment. Equally satisfying is being able to quickly put the lie to those who would keep enlightenment shadowy and vague, so as to exploit others for their desire for it. Or pointing out those making a mountain of their puny experiences, as a few have here, on FFL - ex-TM teachers, anyone?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : A few years ago as I was first developing this Cartesian way of looking at mysticism and spiritual movements I drew it out on the back of an envelope and showed it then to an eminent scholar PhD in our field. He looked at it and laughed out saying, “Oh, I understand that! My wife is a PhD in mathematics.” It worked. -Buck. Yup, like in the recent thread here categorizing the BATGAP.COM spirituallyawakened intervieweesaround describing a range in typology of mystical illumination. Those interviews then come as another good place for the Cartesian graph as help in getting a handle on de-mystifying the spiritual in the discussion. Charting using the Cartesian axis can become a great aid. With enough data-points one then could even start to do a calculus looking at relative rates of spiritual-change in individuals or groups in time. I find that I place them all by typology in to a scaled Cartesian coordinate graph with abiding-awakening running from the awakened-quietist up to awakened-pietist on the vertical axis as type by transformation, and then on the horizontal axis, the modality and/or a scale of organization or satsang around them. -Buck https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386298 386298Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types Last year I was at a conference and one paper that I thought really stood out for our purposes here was a completely objective paper on altruistic communalism which had absolutely no consideration of spirituality. The paper only considered relative organization and the value of doing or being in groups to people. In the end of the session it opened for questions. I had sat next to a white board listening to the paper so as a prelude to asking a question I quick drew on the white board an x-y axis and labeled the vertical as relative spiritual evolution from a low of narcissism to a high of illumination. On the horizontal axis using the paper's terms I put the relative altruistic evolutionary structure of organizations. And then made my point that his was a great analysis of altruistic aspect of organizations but by example I come from a community where we also look at it a little differently to include the spiritual component in communal groupings as a variable. The reaction in the group listening ranged from appreciation to the quite explosive, “you can't evaluate people that way!”. The most supportive came from a professor who while teaching full time at a university here in the US goes annually to India to study communal ashram living. That guy quoted and cited scholarship by example as he spoke about what I was saying. They guy who authored and presented the paper in that session in reaction acquiesced in the end by saying he did not know about spirituality and that it was not his area. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: A great start. I enjoy building models, too, mostly for business development and planning, and find the greatest fun in identifying and quantifying all of the different values, so that the model accurately represents real-world conditions. Yep, thanks for noticing and appreciating this. I have been working at developing this Cartesian graphingof mysticism as a thesis for a while as an aid in helping those people who are reserved or even flat out skeptical about spirituality to be better able to place mysticism and mystics within the histories of different spiritual/religious movements. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: horsing around - lol Yes, agreed. A very grounded approach to your reading methodology - I really loved reading the description, and the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!
The Real Thing! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Funnily enough, I just noticed them on the shelf at our local health food store, right along with the coconut water and fizzy juice drinks. On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Cinnamon pecans! A box of nuts and chews for me, supplemented by two Mexican Cokes - arriba! (unlike the corn syrup US made Cokes, these are all cane sugar, made and bottled under license, in Mexico, and they come in the old style glass bottles - not sure if they are available in other parts of the US, outside of California). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Hey I just got 14 molasses suckers and a bag of cinnamon pecans. Life is good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I was looking at a rider mower with a cup holder, and cruise control. Rig a boom box on the back, and be the talk of the neighborhood! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks. Wife still out of town. Gonna try to get the 21 year old to cut the grass like he's been promising to do. May go to HuHot with the daughter for dinner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Happy Father's Day to all the dads on here, and all those dads who brought us up in this world. Happy Father's Day!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Wow. You'd think Barry was asleep and dreaming the whole time Robin was posting here. BTW, everything I'm about to say can be found in the FFL archives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. In Robin's case, of course, his claim was that he HAD BEEN enlightened, not that he still was. He had decided it was a bad deal and spent 25 years shedding it before he showed up here. One based his world teaching on striking his students in public Wrong. That happened one single time. and on driving out supposed demons from within them. The very *belief* that there is a demon world populated by beings who oppose the good world is based in dualism, and is a product of this faux-enlightened teacher's Christian hangups, Wrong. Robin rejected the whole demon-expelling thing AFTER he had converted to Roman Catholicism. He wasn't previously a Christian; if anything, he was a Hindu (Hinduism has its own demons, of course). And he told us over and over again how horrified he was at what he had been doing during the period he claimed to have been enlightened. It's hard to believe these mistakes are unintentional on Barry's part. not any experience of actual Unity. If he had really been experiencing Unity, and seeing the world in terms of Self, where within that seeing is the room for demons? Being in Unity doesn't mean seeing the world as a mass of undifferentiated mush. The other has gone on record many times about his willingness to harm others *if he feels the need to to so*, and has a long, long track record of attempting to use harmful and abusive language on this forum to make people he doesn't like feel bad about themselves. Just consider the inadvertent irony, folks, of BARRY criticizing anybody for trying to make those he doesn't like feel bad about themseves.
[FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. One based his world teaching on striking his students in public and on driving out supposed demons from within them. The very *belief* that there is a demon world populated by beings who oppose the good world is based in dualism, and is a product of this faux-enlightened teacher's Christian hangups, not any experience of actual Unity. If he had really been experiencing Unity, and seeing the world in terms of Self, where within that seeing is the room for demons? The other has gone on record many times about his willingness to harm others *if he feels the need to to so*, and has a long, long track record of attempting to use harmful and abusive language on this forum to make people he doesn't like feel bad about themselves. Even when his feeble attempts to do this don't work, he claims they do anyway, and *exults* in the suffering he believes he's caused these people. Again, which part of his Self does this ass-clown think he's harming? Finally, compare and contrast to Maharishi himself, as conservative and knee-jerk a right-winger who has ever existed. From his early The way to ensure peace is to build a bigger bomb to his endorsement of the mythical Krishna telling people in the Bhagavad-Gita to go out and murder their own family members in the name of dharma, to his declaring an *entire nation* unworthy of being saved by yanking TM teaching away from it. And that's ignoring the passive-agressive harm he did to millions of Indians by taking wealth he'd extorted from wealthy Westerners, smuggling it into India, and then -- rather than using it to help people -- giving it to his own family members instead. We've all seen the faked photos of the supposed charitable projects the money was ostensibly used for -- groups of the same people moved around from one false-front location to the next to make it look as if there were actually large groups of people there. What part of Self did he think it was OK for him to harm by *his* actions? Damned if you are and damned if you're not. But wait! This is a warning to all of those foolish enough to claim something that others don't want to hear. Others who just love to jump on anyone who might know something, have seen something, are aware of something or are actually privy to something that these naysayers are not. Is this lack of imagination on their part? Envy? Jealousy? Or just an attempt to belittle others? Stay tuned, folks, there are so many literal-minded on this site that they have place themselves in the same category as those who read and take the Bible just as literally - what are they called? Oh yeah, fundamentalists.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. OK, but in what wyy are they useful to you Share? This is what I was curious about. But at the risk of being accused of abusing you by asking you such an impertinent and inappropriate question let's consider it a redundant one. Only you will ever know hoo it is useful beyond the mere fact that you assert it is. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Who we should have had diagnosing the sanity of posters on FFL
On 6/15/2014 12:57 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think Willytex has finally established his credentials Speaking of credentials: Dr. Pete was trying to make an online diagnosis - sort of like what Barry does often. The Doctor is not even an M.D. qualified to write medication prescriptions. Instead of posting to FFL, Pete was apparently suppposed to be teaching a Psychology 101 class at a community college. LoL! Now, that's understandable in an adjunct instructor with a degree from MUM who isn't even qualified to teach meditation - but what isn't clear is why a science writer like Barry would make some of the same mistakes. What exactly, are the qualifications for a science writer ayway? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Sre, Barry, sre. I understand why you don't want me to alert them to your particularly egregious misrepresentations. You seem to have deleted the part about everything I said being in the archives. The lurking reporters are more than welcome to contact me for specifics so they can check it out for themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sal, you and Barry are giving me power, that I do not have... ...So live with it, and get the fuck off my back - it is like having fleas. Having a human mind, it might be possible to prevent having fleas, or to rid yourself of them at some point. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with what you said in the complete post, but the way you came out with 'I am enlightened' perhaps has something to do with the response. People gravitate around both good and not good teachers, but to my mind, good teachers do not have to do much to establish their status which grows spontaneously from what they present. Also, FFL contains a fair proportion of disgruntled spiritual seekers and former spiritual seekers, so perhaps, in making such an announcement to such a crowd, are you throwing your alleged pearls before swine and just stirring up the pen? I say alleged because enlightenment does not show, and an unenlightened person would not know how to evaluate its presence (assuming enlightenment has a presence). Simply proclaiming enlightenment is not sufficient, and demeaning others continually for not being so does not bode well for establishing such a fact were it to exist. Now others may demean you, but to turn it back on them, that makes you just like them in others' eyes. Might as well be a hell-fire preacher with zero knowledge of spiritual reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Father's Day!!
La Cosa Real or El Autentico! I think the carton said Meche En Mexico... On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:40 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Real Thing! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Funnily enough, I just noticed them on the shelf at our local health food store, right along with the coconut water and fizzy juice drinks. On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Cinnamon pecans! A box of nuts and chews for me, supplemented by two Mexican Cokes - arriba! (unlike the corn syrup US made Cokes, these are all cane sugar, made and bottled under license, in Mexico, and they come in the old style glass bottles - not sure if they are available in other parts of the US, outside of California). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Hey I just got 14 molasses suckers and a bag of cinnamon pecans. Life is good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I was looking at a rider mower with a cup holder, and cruise control. Rig a boom box on the back, and be the talk of the neighborhood! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks. Wife still out of town. Gonna try to get the 21 year old to cut the grass like he's been promising to do. May go to HuHot with the daughter for dinner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Happy Father's Day to all the dads on here, and all those dads who brought us up in this world. Happy Father's Day!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 8:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. Very interesting indeed. A guy that claims he saw his guru levitate off a stage in L.A. - wants to compare himself to a guy that hops on a foam mattress inside a trailer house in Chico .
Re: [FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
That rationalization was based on the idea that that is how it had always been. Slavery had been an institution since the dawn of civilization. Probably because life was so hard, cruel and short. Our *more cultured* European ancestors brought Africans to work in the hot climates because they could take the heat,didn't look like us at all, were plentiful and cheap. De-humanizing the slave was an essential part in being able to make it work. Because life was hard and short, the common man had little time to contemplate ideas like karma, the golden rule, or what kind of future he was actually creating. It would be interesting to find out if there was some key event in history that got people thinking differently, like the industrial revolution providing some with the time and comforts of life to be able to even consider such matters. We have the luxury/burden of looking back to the past to see where we were and how we've evolved. On Monday, June 16, 2014 6:14 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Wouldn't you love to see all those purported emails? Jeez, all I have to do is say lurking reporters and Barry freaks. LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Judykins? Others have used this on FFL, but this is the first time you have used the term yourself. What a rush of intimacy. After approaching two decades of verbal contact sports, I suppose it had to slip through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
I wonder if this bit is addressed to Barry, who seems to claim definitive knowledge of who is enlightened and who isn't (or wasn't, in Robin's case): I say alleged because enlightenment does not show, and an unenlightened person would not know how to evaluate its presence (assuming enlightenment has a presence).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Andrew Cohen's waking state intellect
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Does anyone else ever feel the urge to lift one of those megaphones used to announce things at political rallies and riots, point it in the direction of this ass-clown, and shout: WAKE THE FUCK UP, NUMNUTS! NO ONE BELIEVES YOU'RE ENLIGHTENED NO ONE STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF BY PRETENDING THEY DO No, not really. He can say whatever he wants just like you can, and do. I am much more inclined to want to take that megaphone of yours and tell you to sit down and shut up but you are deaf and consider yourself far too wise and important to comply. So day after day we watch you embarrass yourself and spout the same old, same old. So be a good boy, put the megaphone and the large font, bolded red away and suck it up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Ann, posting for the FOURTH time, my answer to this question of yours! Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Monday, June 16, 2014 8:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. OK, but in what wyy are they useful to you Share? This is what I was curious about. But at the risk of being accused of abusing you by asking you such an impertinent and inappropriate question let's consider it a redundant one. Only you will ever know hoo it is useful beyond the mere fact that you assert it is. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote:I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote:I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Wafflebeater You are supposed to comment in a manner that, at least, shows you have read the article. Consider this radical idea before you inform us, once again, about who you like and who you despise. Got read?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 2:39 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The very *belief* that there is a demon world populated by beings who oppose the good world is based in dualism, Has it been established that a belief in dualism is erroneous? Logic would imply that the world is composed of opposing forces and it's just common sense to suppose that there is a material world and a mind that does the perceiving. I mean, we have two eyes, not one transcendental third eye; we have two arms and two legs; there is male and female - let's get real. Would anyone seriously doubt that they are doubting?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Phrases are not knowledge, Share. Any knowledge about Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, you obtained on your own--except for the knowledge emptybill provided, which, as you keep avoiding, was that they are are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Judy, we disagree about this. Since I had never encountered them before, it was knowledge to find out that those phrases exist. I googled on them immediately after skimming the rest of empty's post and only in a later post of his did I read the additional info about using anger as a path to God. On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Phrases are not knowledge, Share. Any knowledge about Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, you obtained on your own--except for the knowledge emptybill provided, which, as you keep avoiding, was that they are are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote:I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be useful. Information on how to operate your washing machine or directions on self administering an anema are useful. Please enlighten me. Given the tone of your post, I think I did pretty good responding civilly to you, several times. And I even answered your question! As the FFL guys might say: WTF?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Actually, if they accept what Barry says here, they aren't very good at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They might well experience some serious cognitive dissonance if they were to look at certain items in the FFL archives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad [1 Attachment]
On 6/16/2014 2:39 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: We've all seen the faked photos of the supposed charitable projects the money was ostensibly used for Yes, we've all seen the faked photos of the supposed charitable projects and what the money was ostensibly used for. levitating Fred Lenz
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's On Your Mind?
On 6/15/2014 9:01 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hammer Pants! Get your mind off the Hammer Pants and start thinking about doing the workout. Now. that's better! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : MC Hammer - You Can't Touch This http://youtu.be/x8H2-YZUw40
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Judykins, also FYI, one of the reasons you have zero credibility with the journalists taking notes on this forum is that you are completely incapable of letting your attempted demonization of one of your victims drop. You and Ann are STILL harassing Share, trying to get her to explain things she adequately (and, contrary to you, nicely) explained right at the beginning of all this. This is the same behavior that causes them to write Jim Flanegin off as a nutcase. No one who gets their buttons pushed as much as he does and who reacts to them having *been* pushed by lashing out the way he does is in their minds a candidate for enlightenment. More of a candidate for a loony bin. As for you, as you say it's all in the archives. The reporters you're attempting to preach to have read your interactions with people on FFL, they've read Andrew's Defender Of The Faith website, and they've seen your hypocrisy on a daily basis on FFL for some time now. As a result, when you declare things true, as if you really know what that is, they laugh at you as much as I do. But please don't stop. The more active examples of the benefits of TM like you and Nablus are on the forum, the more meat these journalists have for the articles or books they're researching. Carry on... :-) From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann Phrases are not knowledge, Share. Any knowledge about Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, you obtained on your own--except for the knowledge emptybill provided, which, as you keep avoiding, was that they are are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which
Re: [FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
Mike, I like your insights here and I too would enjoy finding out if there was a moment when the tide on slavery began to turn, at least for some. In this context, I wonder if the Arthurian legend is based on a historical figure and if that person really began to challenge the idea that might makes right. On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That rationalization was based on the idea that that is how it had always been. Slavery had been an institution since the dawn of civilization. Probably because life was so hard, cruel and short. Our *more cultured* European ancestors brought Africans to work in the hot climates because they could take the heat,didn't look like us at all, were plentiful and cheap. De-humanizing the slave was an essential part in being able to make it work. Because life was hard and short, the common man had little time to contemplate ideas like karma, the golden rule, or what kind of future he was actually creating. It would be interesting to find out if there was some key event in history that got people thinking differently, like the industrial revolution providing some with the time and comforts of life to be able to even consider such matters. We have the luxury/burden of looking back to the past to see where we were and how we've evolved. On Monday, June 16, 2014 6:14 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] M$'s Android-killer patents!
I don't know Carde, is this a good thing, China coming after a successful, American company?! On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:34 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of Android-killer patents Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of And... Microsoft crows about transparency, but it didn't reveal this list of 310 patents. View on arstechnica.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Stop digging, Share. You're getting yourself into an increasingly deep hole. Below, I quoted the entirety of emptybill's post--three sentences, the second of which was the one that mentioned Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava in the context of using anger as a path to God. There was almost nothing for you to skim. What you're calling additional knowledge in a later post wasn't additional, it was in the very post you thanked him for and said was useful to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, we disagree about this. Since I had never encountered them before, it was knowledge to find out that those phrases exist. I googled on them immediately after skimming the rest of empty's post and only in a later post of his did I read the additional info about using anger as a path to God. On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:39 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Phrases are not knowledge, Share. Any knowledge about Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, you obtained on your own--except for the knowledge emptybill provided, which, as you keep avoiding, was that they are are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time. But I think most people can at the very least, be committed to an intention to focus on the positive and attend to what's negative only for as long as it takes to deal with it. I don't think we're responsible for the thoughts and feelings that come and go. But we are responsible for the thoughts and feelings we entertain and feed. This is what rasa and bhava is about. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:32 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered myself how that could possibly be useful to you, since it seems so contrary to your personal philosophy. You didn't say a word about that. And there was not a thing wrong with the tone of Ann's post. WTF! indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you initially wrote: I can't imagine in what way this information could possibly be
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 3:16 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity Yes, I always allude to this concept when InfiniJim goes off on one of his I'm more evolved than you self-contradictory ego trips. You just can't get much more evolved than witnessing somebody levitating off the desert floor and floating up to the side of a mountain. It must all stem from having a teacher that put experiences as the goal rather than understanding. I hear they even have a book in the domes where people write down their highs In the Rama cult, everyone understood that the goal was for Fred to count the money and put it in stacks - and the book was a bank ledger inside his house, not inside a dome. We don't know how high the stacks were, but apparently it was cash. Fred apparently didn't accept checks. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Judy, I skimmed because my attention was focused on the two unfamiliar phrases. And here's the additional knowledge which empty posted later, June 9 at 2:06 pm: The point was the assertion that there is an alternate path to godhead http://swamitripurari.com/2011/09/liberating-the-demons/ September 8th, 2011 by Swami T. P. Tripurari Q. Are the demons that Krishna fights with in his earthly play (prakata-lila) his eternal associates? It appears not, as in the spiritual world there are no demons or nondevotees. However, it is said that Putana, the female demon who was killed by baby Krishna, attained a position in the spiritual world as his nurse, so she must have been fully purified of contamination due to contact with him. Since Krishna’s lilas are eternal what happens to those who play the parts of demons in his prakata-lilas? A. Sri Jiva Goswami says that one of the distinguishing features of Sri Krishna is that when he kills demons they attain spiritual liberation (mukti), which is a characteristic that is unique among all appearances of the Godhead. Five types of mukti are mentioned in the scriptures. They are salokya (being promoted to the realm of God), samipya (becoming an associate of God), sarupya (attaining a form like that of God), sarsti (attaining opulences like those of God), and sayujya (merging into the effulgence of God). Of the five types of mukti, Gaudiya Vaishnavas reject sayujya because it is devoid of an intimate personal relationship with Sri Krishna. Actually, devotees of Krishna are not interested in attaining any kind of mukti. In Srimad-Bhagavatam Krishna says, salokya-sarsti-samipya-sarupyaikatvam apy uta diyamanam na grhnanti vina mat-sevanam janah: “My devotees do not accept salokya, sarsti, sarupya, samipya, or oneness with me (sayujya)—even if I offer these liberations—in preference to serving me.” (SB 3.29.13) As for the demons killed by Krishna, most attained sayujya-mukti. Some, such as Aghasura and Paundraka, attained sarupya-mukti, and others attained the status that they had previous to appearing as demons and from there progressed on to attain prema (divine love). Of these, only the demoness Putana directly attained prema. This is because in a motherly manner she offered baby Krishna her breast milk. Although she was attempting to kill him, Krishna mercifully accepted her in this way—as his nurse, whereby she attained his eternal abode. Thus it is clear that the demons appearing in the prakata-lila other than the appearances of Jaya and Vijaya are not Krishna’s eternal associates but rather materially conditioned souls who for various reasons appear as demons during his manifest lila. Many of these reasons are explained in Sri Garga-samhita, wherein the previous lives of many demons are revealed. A Bengali translation from the original Sanskrit by Pujyapada Sridhara Deva Goswami is in print. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura points out that Krishna’s apparent punishment of the demons or unrighteous is in fact an act of mercy because the final result of this punishment is liberation. Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana in his Govinda Bhasya commentary on Vedanta-sutra says that the demons killed by Krishna experience not only the death of their gross material body but the demise of their subtle body as well. The subtle body carries the soul from one gross body to another. The subtle body consisting of a state of mind is the basis of the gross body that one acquires in the next life. When the subtle body of the unrighteous person is destroyed by Krishna, the person’s attitude toward him immediately changes, for his opposition to Krishna was a product of his subtle body—his unrighteous disposition. On the demise of the subtle body, his hostility toward Krishna is transformed into love for Krishna. Thus at the moment of death he sees Krishna as the greatest object of affection. His liberation is not directly a result of being killed by Krishna but rather the result of his newfound love for him. Jaya and Vijaya, the devotees of Vishnu who came to the material world and played the role of demons, are of course exceptions. Sri Jiva Goswami writes in Krsna-sandarbha that these two gatekeepers of Vaikuntha do not appear every time the lila is manifest, but rather materially conditioned souls come to play the roles these devotees had played in the lila in accordance with the will of Bhagavan. In his Laghu Bhagavatamrta, Sri Rupa Goswami cites Visnu Purana’s conversation between Maitreya and Parasarama concerning Jaya and Vijaya. Srila Prabhupada comments on this section of the Purana and Sri Rupa Goswami’s insight as follows: “This discussion between Maitreya Muni and Parasara Muni centered on whether devotees come down into the material world in every millennium like Jaya and Vijaya, who were cursed by the Kumaras to that effect. In the course of these instructions to Maitreya about Hiranyakasipu,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Actually, Share did not explain things adequately, but that's a red herring with regard to your own misrepresentations. The lurking reporters have not seen any hypocrisy from me, nor have they seen me say anything that was untruthful. Your claims about Robin in your recent post were factually false, and the FFL archives bear that out, regardless of any declarations I might make. (BTW, if I'm a cult apologist, why am I going after Share, one of the most committed TMers on the forum, and calling her credibility in question? OPSIE.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Judykins, also FYI, one of the reasons you have zero credibility with the journalists taking notes on this forum is that you are completely incapable of letting your attempted demonization of one of your victims drop. You and Ann are STILL harassing Share, trying to get her to explain things she adequately (and, contrary to you, nicely) explained right at the beginning of all this. This is the same behavior that causes them to write Jim Flanegin off as a nutcase. No one who gets their buttons pushed as much as he does and who reacts to them having *been* pushed by lashing out the way he does is in their minds a candidate for enlightenment. More of a candidate for a loony bin. As for you, as you say it's all in the archives. The reporters you're attempting to preach to have read your interactions with people on FFL, they've read Andrew's Defender Of The Faith website, and they've seen your hypocrisy on a daily basis on FFL for some time now. As a result, when you declare things true, as if you really know what that is, they laugh at you as much as I do. But please don't stop. The more active examples of the benefits of TM like you and Nablus are on the forum, the more meat these journalists have for the articles or books they're researching. Carry on... :-) From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann Phrases are not knowledge, Share. Any knowledge about Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, you obtained on your own--except for the knowledge emptybill provided, which, as you keep avoiding, was that they are are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, emptybill posted two phrases which I had never encountered before and that is the knowledge I was and am referring to. On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:44 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nope. Here's what you said: Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is extremely useful. However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through anger: You talk transcend but cannot transcend your habitual identification with Christian mythology . Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava. Although not recommended, they are considered the swiftest means of god realization. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386362 IOW, you are continuing to try to mislead us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, I think what I said to emptybill, is that I had never encountered those phrases before and I like learning new things. To me that means they were useful, as was the info I found when I googled on them. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information, which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, you are wrong. Here is the post wherein I answered Ann's question: Rasas and bhavas are all about emotions, which in another thread you said you have (-: I don't think we have 100% control over our emotions. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't want to. OTOH, I also think that the so called negative emotions release damaging chemicals into the body. If these emotions are continually experienced, quite a lot of damage can occur. Conversely, I think certain behaviors can facilitate having positive emotions more of the time. For example, getting a good night's sleep and eating healthy food. I also think a key factor is taking responsibility for our emotional experiences. I don't think anyone can help the thoughts and emotions that come and go all the time.
[FairfieldLife] Colloidal Silver
This is my experience with colloidal silver: I have used it as an eye wash - works real well. I had shingles about 3 years ago - lesions up and down one leg - every time they started burning and itching, I sprayed colloidal silver on them (Source Naturals brand) and within usually 2 minutes, all burning and itching would stop. Really helped a LOT. I had also used it previously to treat a candida problem I had and it absolutely worked. At that time I was taking about I think 4 tablespoons a day for about a month or maybe 6 weeks. I used a brand called Germ Slayer - the FDA ran them out of business a few years ago. They were selling to a lot of people who had Lyme disease. I talked with one or two who swore that a 3 or 4 month regimen of colloidal silver cured them. My cat that came to me as an ill kitten was losing fur on one paw - the vet thought it was ringworm, but the test proved negative - when the vet had no idea what was causing the hair loss, I began spraying the Source Naturals colloidal silver on his paw three times a day - the hair loss stopped within a day and after three days of treatment, the hair all grew back. I find it interesting that while the regular medical community reviles and ridicules the use of colloidal silver, claiming it has NO therapeutic effects at all, even claiming that silver itself has no anti bacterial, fungal or viral effect, major pharmaceutical companies make and market silver products to the medical community. They make dental silver nitrate compounds for treating mouth ulcers among other things, wound dressings with silver and coat medical devices with it too. http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials Protecting Devices with Silver-Based Antimicrobials | MD... The current economic climate has forced hospitals to scrutinize their spending in an effort to reduce costs and increase revenue. As a result, many hospitals are fo... View on www.mddionline.com Preview by Yahoo Among the silver-containing items exhibited at the APIC conference were textile products such as operating gowns, mattress covers and bed linens. Wound-care products also make major use of antimicrobial silver. With respect to wound dressings, studies have shown that dressings containing silver increase the comfort level for burn patients by minimizing adhesion between wound and dressing, thereby reducing pain when changing dressings. Antimicrobial-silver sprays are also used to protect surfaces likely to collect infectious organisms and silver-based coatings are also increasingly used in medical devices such as catheters and tubing to prevent surgical-site infections. The antimicrobial effects of silver have been known since ancient times, but only within the last five years has silver been used more extensively to control healthcare-associated infections (HAIs). This has been in response to efforts by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and by legislative mandates forcing hospitals to prevent the occurrence of HAIs. That is from this article: http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Infection Control Products Driving the Use of Silver Silver usage has grown exponentially in medicine and health-related products, notes The Silver Institute, which has been tracking its increased usage. View on www.infectioncontroltoday.com Preview by Yahoo A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as an Antimicrobial Agent in Medical Devices A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as... Abstract Silver is used widely in wound dressings and medical devices as a broad-spectrum antibiotic. View on www.hindawi.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Mike, I like your insights here and I too would enjoy finding out if there was a moment when the tide on slavery began to turn, at least for some. In this context, I wonder if the Arthurian legend is based on a historical figure and if that person really began to challenge the idea that might makes right. On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That rationalization was based on the idea that that is how it had always been. Slavery had been an institution since the dawn of civilization. Probably because life was so hard, cruel and short. Our *more cultured* European ancestors brought Africans to work in the hot climates because they could take the heat,didn't look like us at all, were plentiful and cheap. De-humanizing the slave was an essential part in being able to make it work. Because life was hard and short, the common man had little time to contemplate ideas like karma, the golden rule, or what kind of future he was actually creating. It would be interesting to find out if there was some key event in history that got people thinking differently, like the industrial revolution providing some with the time and comforts of life to be able to even consider such matters. We have the luxury/burden of looking back to the past to see where we were and how we've evolved. On Monday, June 16, 2014 6:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/16/2014 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. Very interesting indeed. A guy that claims he saw his guru levitate off a stage in L.A. - wants to compare himself to a guy that hops on a foam mattress inside a trailer house in Chico . Watch those attributions, Ricky baby.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Wouldn't you love to see all those purported emails? Jeez, all I have to do is say lurking reporters and Barry freaks. Didn't bawee, or someone, accuse you of some sort of grave foible by claiming you had private emails with Robin? As if you were using it to hold yourself up in some esteem or special status category? LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colloidal Silver
Michael, if you haven't read up on shingles, you really should. There's a vaccine available (approved for folks 50 years old and older) that significantly reduces the chances of a recurrence. Shingles is a huge problem for older folks. If you ever had chicken pox, the shingles virus is in your system and can reactivate itself at any time. http://www.cdc.gov/shingles/vaccination.html http://www.cdc.gov/shingles/vaccination.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This is my experience with colloidal silver: I have used it as an eye wash - works real well. I had shingles about 3 years ago - lesions up and down one leg - every time they started burning and itching, I sprayed colloidal silver on them (Source Naturals brand) and within usually 2 minutes, all burning and itching would stop. Really helped a LOT. I had also used it previously to treat a candida problem I had and it absolutely worked. At that time I was taking about I think 4 tablespoons a day for about a month or maybe 6 weeks. I used a brand called Germ Slayer - the FDA ran them out of business a few years ago. They were selling to a lot of people who had Lyme disease. I talked with one or two who swore that a 3 or 4 month regimen of colloidal silver cured them. My cat that came to me as an ill kitten was losing fur on one paw - the vet thought it was ringworm, but the test proved negative - when the vet had no idea what was causing the hair loss, I began spraying the Source Naturals colloidal silver on his paw three times a day - the hair loss stopped within a day and after three days of treatment, the hair all grew back. I find it interesting that while the regular medical community reviles and ridicules the use of colloidal silver, claiming it has NO therapeutic effects at all, even claiming that silver itself has no anti bacterial, fungal or viral effect, major pharmaceutical companies make and market silver products to the medical community. They make dental silver nitrate compounds for treating mouth ulcers among other things, wound dressings with silver and coat medical devices with it too. http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials Protecting Devices with Silver-Based Antimicrobials | MD... http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials The current economic climate has forced hospitals to scrutinize their spending in an effort to reduce costs and increase revenue. As a result, many hospitals are fo... View on www.mddionline.com http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials Preview by Yahoo Among the silver-containing items exhibited at the APIC conference were textile products such as operating gowns, mattress covers and bed linens. Wound-care products also make major use of antimicrobial silver. With respect to wound dressings, studies have shown that dressings containing silver increase the comfort level for burn patients by minimizing adhesion between wound and dressing, thereby reducing pain when changing dressings. Antimicrobial-silver sprays are also used to protect surfaces likely to collect infectious organisms and silver-based coatings are also increasingly used in medical devices such as catheters and tubing to prevent surgical-site infections. The antimicrobial effects of silver have been known since ancient times, but only within the last five years has silver been used more extensively to control healthcare-associated infections (HAIs). This has been in response to efforts by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and by legislative mandates forcing hospitals to prevent the occurrence of HAIs. That is from this article: http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Infection Control Products Driving the Use of Silver http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Silver usage has grown exponentially in medicine and health-related products, notes The Silver Institute, which has been tracking its increased usage. View on www.infectioncontroltoday.com http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Preview by Yahoo A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as an Antimicrobial Agent in Medical Devices http://www.hindawi.com/journals/aps/2010/910686/ http://www.hindawi.com/journals/aps/2010/910686/ A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as... Abstract Silver is
Re: [FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
Funny thing (if any of this is), the reason slavery didn't work in Surinam and French Guiana, on the northeastern coast of S. America, is that the landscape was too similar to Africa's, and the slaves simply escaped into the jungle, where their descendants live today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : That rationalization was based on the idea that that is how it had always been. Slavery had been an institution since the dawn of civilization. Probably because life was so hard, cruel and short. Our *more cultured* European ancestors brought Africans to work in the hot climates because they could take the heat,didn't look like us at all, were plentiful and cheap. De-humanizing the slave was an essential part in being able to make it work. Because life was hard and short, the common man had little time to contemplate ideas like karma, the golden rule, or what kind of future he was actually creating. It would be interesting to find out if there was some key event in history that got people thinking differently, like the industrial revolution providing some with the time and comforts of life to be able to even consider such matters. We have the luxury/burden of looking back to the past to see where we were and how we've evolved. On Monday, June 16, 2014 6:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] M$'s Android-killer patents!
Seems to be a way of business nowadays for losing companies: don't innovate, sue to stay in business. Most tech patents should never have been granted in the first place. The Patent Office had no clue of what they were looking at. So this is the way the world ends, not with a bang but with a patent suit. On 06/16/2014 05:33 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of Android-killer patents http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ image http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Chinese gov’t reveals Microsoft’s secret list of And... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Microsoft crows about transparency, but it didn't reveal this list of 310 patents. View on arstechnica.com http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/chinese-govt-reveals-microsofts-secret-list-of-android-killer-patents/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-) Oh, so you're some stooge then. I get it. Plant an obnoxious provocateur in the audience, the heckler, and this proves that others are cultists because they respond to the heckler? I think many who find you boorish and boring are simply demonstrating a spine and a natural aversion to assholes. Whatever you think your role is here as audience 'plant' it says way more about you than anyone else. I hope they're at least paying you for setting yourself up as the obnoxious shmuck.
Re: [FairfieldLife] two films worth watching
Thanks, Judy, really cool timeline. 960! On Monday, June 16, 2014 10:27 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Mike, I like your insights here and I too would enjoy finding out if there was a moment when the tide on slavery began to turn, at least for some. In this context, I wonder if the Arthurian legend is based on a historical figure and if that person really began to challenge the idea that might makes right. On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That rationalization was based on the idea that that is how it had always been. Slavery had been an institution since the dawn of civilization. Probably because life was so hard, cruel and short. Our *more cultured* European ancestors brought Africans to work in the hot climates because they could take the heat,didn't look like us at all, were plentiful and cheap. De-humanizing the slave was an essential part in being able to make it work. Because life was hard and short, the common man had little time to contemplate ideas like karma, the golden rule, or what kind of future he was actually creating. It would be interesting to find out if there was some key event in history that got people thinking differently, like the industrial revolution providing some with the time and comforts of life to be able to even consider such matters. We have the luxury/burden of looking back to the past to see where we were and how we've evolved. On Monday, June 16, 2014 6:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I watched, Black Fish, a documentary about the killer whale entertainment industry - not pretty. Also, 12 Years A Slave, which was fascinating, and horribly chilling, from a perspective of how human beings can rationalize treating other humans, as property. To see it in action was mesmerizing, as my mind and heart could not conceive of this ever actually being a reality, and yet, there it was, on a massive scale. It reminded me a lot, of accounts I have read of the Nazi mentality, rationalizing the treatment of human beings, basically as replaceable resources, and North Korea, where a sideways look can mean a bullet in the head, randomly. A friend refers to these types of movies, as ones to watch, not for enjoyment, but simply because we have to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colloidal Silver
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This is my experience with colloidal silver: I have used it as an eye wash - works real well. I had shingles about 3 years ago - lesions up and down one leg - every time they started burning and itching, I sprayed colloidal silver on them (Source Naturals brand) and within usually 2 minutes, all burning and itching would stop. Really helped a LOT. Dude, if you get shingles you really want to get some anti-virals down you within a week of the rash appearing. They are amazing and knock it on the head damn quick - hopefully permanently - I speak from experience! And I don't believe it isn't contagious either, a friend of mine had it last spring and assured me I couldn't catch it and that a hug was OK. Despite my scepticism I checked the NHS page online and they agreed it wasn't catching too. Within 3 months I was wiped out with it! Coincidence? Hmm I'd get the vaccine Judy mentioned if I was old enough but sadly I'm still a mere whippersnapper. I had also used it previously to treat a candida problem I had and it absolutely worked. At that time I was taking about I think 4 tablespoons a day for about a month or maybe 6 weeks. I used a brand called Germ Slayer - the FDA ran them out of business a few years ago. They were selling to a lot of people who had Lyme disease. I talked with one or two who swore that a 3 or 4 month regimen of colloidal silver cured them. My cat that came to me as an ill kitten was losing fur on one paw - the vet thought it was ringworm, but the test proved negative - when the vet had no idea what was causing the hair loss, I began spraying the Source Naturals colloidal silver on his paw three times a day - the hair loss stopped within a day and after three days of treatment, the hair all grew back. I find it interesting that while the regular medical community reviles and ridicules the use of colloidal silver, claiming it has NO therapeutic effects at all, even claiming that silver itself has no anti bacterial, fungal or viral effect, major pharmaceutical companies make and market silver products to the medical community. They make dental silver nitrate compounds for treating mouth ulcers among other things, wound dressings with silver and coat medical devices with it too. http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials Protecting Devices with Silver-Based Antimicrobials | MD... http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials The current economic climate has forced hospitals to scrutinize their spending in an effort to reduce costs and increase revenue. As a result, many hospitals are fo... View on www.mddionline.com http://www.mddionline.com/article/protecting-devices-silver-based-antimicrobials Preview by Yahoo Among the silver-containing items exhibited at the APIC conference were textile products such as operating gowns, mattress covers and bed linens. Wound-care products also make major use of antimicrobial silver. With respect to wound dressings, studies have shown that dressings containing silver increase the comfort level for burn patients by minimizing adhesion between wound and dressing, thereby reducing pain when changing dressings. Antimicrobial-silver sprays are also used to protect surfaces likely to collect infectious organisms and silver-based coatings are also increasingly used in medical devices such as catheters and tubing to prevent surgical-site infections. The antimicrobial effects of silver have been known since ancient times, but only within the last five years has silver been used more extensively to control healthcare-associated infections (HAIs). This has been in response to efforts by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and by legislative mandates forcing hospitals to prevent the occurrence of HAIs. That is from this article: http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Infection Control Products Driving the Use of Silver http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Silver usage has grown exponentially in medicine and health-related products, notes The Silver Institute, which has been tracking its increased usage. View on www.infectioncontroltoday.com http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/news/2011/07/infection-control-products-driving-the-use-of-silver.aspx Preview by Yahoo A Pharmacological and Toxicological Profile of Silver as an Antimicrobial Agent in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
lol - like Steve Martin's reaction to the words, Cleaning Woman, from Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Wouldn't you love to see all those purported emails? Jeez, all I have to do is say lurking reporters and Barry freaks. LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
I am enlightened. wow. how threatening. yes, I see. yeah, this is really abrasive. ow, my eyes hurt, when I read these offensive, and abusive, words, I am enlightened yeah, I get your point. but, seriously. what the fuck are you talking about? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sal, you and Barry are giving me power, that I do not have... ...So live with it, and get the fuck off my back - it is like having fleas. Having a human mind, it might be possible to prevent having fleas, or to rid yourself of them at some point. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with what you said in the complete post, but the way you came out with 'I am enlightened' perhaps has something to do with the response. People gravitate around both good and not good teachers, but to my mind, good teachers do not have to do much to establish their status which grows spontaneously from what they present. Also, FFL contains a fair proportion of disgruntled spiritual seekers and former spiritual seekers, so perhaps, in making such an announcement to such a crowd, are you throwing your alleged pearls before swine and just stirring up the pen? I say alleged because enlightenment does not show, and an unenlightened person would not know how to evaluate its presence (assuming enlightenment has a presence). Simply proclaiming enlightenment is not sufficient, and demeaning others continually for not being so does not bode well for establishing such a fact were it to exist. Now others may demean you, but to turn it back on them, that makes you just like them in others' eyes. Might as well be a hell-fire preacher with zero knowledge of spiritual reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Judykins, also FYI, one of the reasons you have zero credibility with the journalists taking notes on this forum is that you are completely incapable of letting your attempted demonization of one of your victims drop. You and Ann are STILL harassing Share, trying to get her to explain things she adequately (and, contrary to you, nicely) explained right at the beginning of all this. This is the same behavior that causes them to write Jim Flanegin off as a nutcase. No one who gets their buttons pushed as much as he does and who reacts to them having *been* pushed by lashing out the way he does is in their minds a candidate for enlightenment. More of a candidate for a loony bin. As for you, as you say it's all in the archives. The reporters you're attempting to preach to have read your interactions with people on FFL, they've read Andrew's Defender Of The Faith website, and they've seen your hypocrisy on a daily basis on FFL for some time now. As a result, when you declare things true, as if you really know what that is, they laugh at you as much as I do. But please don't stop. The more active examples of the benefits of TM like you and Nablus are on the forum, the more meat these journalists have for the articles or books they're researching. Carry on... :-) God bawee, you're killin' me here. Oh Christ, you do take yourself and your reporters so daaarn seriously. Fuck, you're hilarious. Hey reporters! What's your analysis of your stooge bawee? Oh hey, gotta go, just got a private email from one of them, I'll report back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Wafflebeater You are supposed to comment in a manner that, at least, shows you have read the article. I am? Who says? What for? Do you think you'd actually learn anything? Now go take your grumpy ass and find some butterfly to de-wing. Consider this radical idea before you inform us, once again, about who you like and who you despise. Got read?
[FairfieldLife] The east has no answers for us....
Pandas denied World Cup pundit role http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-27830225?ocid=socialflow_twitter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-27830225?ocid=socialflow_twitter Pandas denied World Cup pundit role http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-27830225?ocid=socialflow_twitter A panda centre in western China has pulled out of an attempt to get its giant bears to predict the scores of World Cup matches. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-27830225?ocid=socialflow_twitter Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit lol - seriously? no way you had a straight face for this one...hey, where's that *megaphone*, dude?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-)
[FairfieldLife] I found Barry's reporters
and they do work for a real magazine...but I don't think they will find a lot of synergy, here on FFL: http://tinyurl.com/p5veced http://tinyurl.com/p5veced
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
You're right. BTW, Bush senior was against the invasion of Iraq. Too bad, Bush W didn't listen to his father. I guess they deserved Saddam Hussein after all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : We had no business in Iraq in the first place. But apparently the military industrial complex felt they had big business there and we were given the bill. Let's not pay it. On 06/13/2014 12:41 PM, wgm4u wrote: Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
[FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney remembers his first meditation with Maharishi
TM Blog TM Blog (Interview series with David Lynch, Part II) View on www.tm.org Preview by Yahoo http://www.tm.org/blog/maharishi/paul-mccartney-first-meditation-maharishi/?leadsource=CRM1407
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
On 6/16/2014 11:22 AM, wgm4u wrote: You're right. BTW, Bush senior was against the invasion of Iraq. Too bad, Bush W didn't listen to his father. I guess they deserved Saddam Hussein after all. We had a lot of business going in there. Repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. It's all about the oil, Billy! The important thing now is that as we bugged out, the Iranians moved in a took over. Now what are we going to do about Iran being the super-power in the Middle East? If you think Saddam, as the founder of OPEC cartel, was difficult, just wait until we have to negotiate with a nuclear armed Iran. Now repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : *We *had no business in Iraq in the first place. But apparently the military industrial complex felt they had *big *business there and we were given the bill. Let's not pay it. On 06/13/2014 12:41 PM, wgm4u wrote: Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Learning that you and I both had been in extensive private contact with Robin (initiated by Robin) upset Barry terribly. It made him look like a fool for his claims that Robin had no interest in us, e.g.: *From my point of view*, Robin barely tolerated his groupies here. He almost never had any long conversations with either Judy or Ann, preferring to save himself for more classic NPD goals. He wanted to win over those he perceived as having some charisma or personal power, and convert *them* to become his admirers/disciples. .https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/151702 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/151702 Still gives me a huge chuckle. Anyway, he has to find ways to demean us for pointing out how badly wrong he got it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Wouldn't you love to see all those purported emails? Jeez, all I have to do is say lurking reporters and Barry freaks. Didn't bawee, or someone, accuse you of some sort of grave foible by claiming you had private emails with Robin? As if you were using it to hold yourself up in some esteem or special status category? LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
[FairfieldLife] For your viewing and listening pleasure...
Especially for the lurking reporters. Here's a previously-undiscovered video of enlightened Jim Flanegin, made during the period when he was trying to pass himself off as a woman here on Fairfield Life under the name of 'enlightened_dawn11.' It's a bit of a...uh...drag, but it does help to fill in the gaps in his personality. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTByHbjgz8k :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colloidal Silver
You can save a lot of money by making your own for about a dollar per gallon. It can be done with as little as two silver wires and three 9v batteries, but it is well worth the money to buy a current controlled unit that shuts itself down when the desired strength is reached. Two worthy units: http://silverpuppy.com/ http://silverpuppy.com/ http://www.silvergen.com/ http://www.silvergen.com/ Another wise investment is a water distiller, as the water you distill at home is likely to be purer than the stuff from the store, plus it will not have leached all sorts of plastic taste/smell from sitting on a shelf for months. Please be aware that properly made CS has exactly two ingredients: pure steam distilled water and .999+ pure silver. NEVER use tap water or add stuff like salt or baking soda. All the scare stories of people who turned themselves blue with excessive silver intake trace back to improperly made homebrew CS or concentrated silver compounds. Properly made, homemade CS will top out at about 20 PPM; at that concentration, you'd kill yourself with excessive water intake before you'd ever ingest enough silver to cause argyria.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Judy, I'm am a type of investigative reporter. I report for the Sakshin Theatron, a little recognized but influential gathering program for a hidden intelligence directorate that is currently quartered in a nondescript office complex somewhere in Foggy Bottom. I found the original article referenced in the original post interesting and useful. However, I'm finding this discussion devolving into endless rounds of incrimination that are off-topic. For the sake of clarity and maybe misplaced hope, I suggest separating the arguments about various forum posters from the actual topic of the original post. Respectfully, A. Theôroi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
On 06/16/2014 09:44 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/16/2014 11:22 AM, wgm4u wrote: You're right. BTW, Bush senior was against the invasion of Iraq. Too bad, Bush W didn't listen to his father. I guess they deserved Saddam Hussein after all. We had a lot of business going in there. Repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. It's all about the oil, Billy! The important thing now is that as we bugged out, the Iranians moved in a took over. Now what are we going to do about Iran being the super-power in the Middle East? If you think Saddam, as the founder of OPEC cartel, was difficult, just wait until we have to negotiate with a nuclear armed Iran. Now repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. We have a special today only, buy two bridges and get one free! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : *We *had no business in Iraq in the first place. But apparently the military industrial complex felt they had *big *business there and we were given the bill. Let's not pay it. On 06/13/2014 12:41 PM, wgm4u wrote: Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 10:59 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: lol - like Steve Martin's reaction to the words, Cleaning Woman, from Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid... Like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Wouldn't you love to see all those purported emails? Jeez, all I have to do is say lurking reporters and Barry freaks. LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... / / Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
We are supposed to read the article BEFORE we post our replies? Like. On 6/16/2014 10:55 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Wafflebeater You are supposed to comment in a manner that, at least, shows you have read the article. I am? Who says? What for? Do you think you'd actually learn anything? Now go take your grumpy ass and find some butterfly to de-wing. Consider this radical idea before you inform us, once again, about who you like and who you despise. Got read?
[FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
There wouldn't have been any arguments about forum posters if Barry's comments about Robin in connection with the article hadn't been blatantly false. The parallel between Robin and Cohen is interesting, though. They both went through what sounds like a similar agonizing reappraisal of their purported enlightenment, Robin after 10 years, now Cohen after 27. It took Robin 25 years to break free and get back to waking state, and he has no intention of ever doing any more spiritual teaching. Cohen is just about to go through his own process; how long will it take him? And he seems to think he'll continue to teach once he's done.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
On 6/16/2014 10:53 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-) Oh, so you're some stooge then. I get it. Plant an obnoxious provocateur in the audience, the heckler, and this proves that others are cultists because they respond to the heckler? I think many who find you boorish and boring are simply demonstrating a spine and a natural aversion to assholes. Whatever you think your role is here as audience 'plant' it says way more about you than anyone else. I hope they're at least paying you for setting yourself up as the obnoxious shmuck. It looks like we've got a 180 stooge for CAN, AFF and Rick Ross on the forum - a cult member, now a cult exit counselor, posing as a science writer, in a conspiracy with some reporter-lurkers. It sounds complicated - will the real Barry please stand up? I will freely admit it -- I think CAN, AFF, and similar organ- izations represent one of the most disturbing and dangerous trends in America today. They cultivate and exploit the public's fear of the unfamiliar, and have turned the word cult into a multi-million dollar business. Author: Barry Wright Subject: Propaganda and Judy Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: August 7, 1994 http://tinyurl.com/mcgs4r5
[FairfieldLife] to Judy again
Judy, you got this wrong. Empty's sentence has a body, the main part. And another part is the prepositional phrase. So it has 2 parts. Judy wrote:And while a sentence can certainly have two parts, the sentence in question didn't: Empty wrote: Apparently you are unaware of the paths to god through Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Share, Knowledge is presumably what we directly experience and interpret accurately. We can at times mistakenly interpret what we experience. Further we can have delusions about our experience which is a mistake that is persistent. We can also remember experiences incorrectly, memories shift over time. Belief is an acceptance that something exists or that a statement is true, but a belief always has the element of the hypothetical about it because it is not direct - there is always an uncertainty about it. Faith is belief without evidence, or the pretence that you know something you don't actually know. Opinions can be informed (connected to knowledge somehow or informed belief, such as the result of a well done scientific experiment) or uninformed (mere belief, or faith). Just about everything we say here on FFL is the second sort. Most of what we think, perhaps all of it, is uncertain to various degrees, and so does not constitute knowledge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, we have disagreed about what constitutes knowledge. That is a matter of opinion not fact. imo the 2 phrases constituted knowledge for me. Also, I disagree with your assessment of my inner thoughts and emotions because I know what they were and that you have interpreted them inaccurately. This is not avoidance or denial by one person. It is a disagreement between two people.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For your viewing and listening pleasure...
lol - like Steve Martin's reaction to the words, Cleaning Woman, from Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Especially for the lurking reporters. Here's a previously-undiscovered video of enlightened Jim Flanegin, made during the period when he was trying to pass himself off as a woman here on Fairfield Life under the name of 'enlightened_dawn11.' It's a bit of a...uh...drag, but it does help to fill in the gaps in his personality. Enjoy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTByHbjgz8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTByHbjgz8k :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
Thanks, Xeno, this is a wonderful summary of epitomolgy imo. In this context, as soon as I read empty's 2 phrases, Raudra Rasa and Krodha Bhava, I had knowledge of their existence. Which I did not have before. I did interpret that what he wrote was truly a concept in Hindu philosophy. This interpretation was based on my experience with what he's written here before. And when I googled, I verified the accuracy both of what he wrote and my interpretation. On Monday, June 16, 2014 1:38 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, Knowledge is presumably what we directly experience and interpret accurately. We can at times mistakenly interpret what we experience. Further we can have delusions about our experience which is a mistake that is persistent. We can also remember experiences incorrectly, memories shift over time. Belief is an acceptance that something exists or that a statement is true, but a belief always has the element of the hypothetical about it because it is not direct - there is always an uncertainty about it. Faith is belief without evidence, or the pretence that you know something you don't actually know. Opinions can be informed (connected to knowledge somehow or informed belief, such as the result of a well done scientific experiment) or uninformed (mere belief, or faith). Just about everything we say here on FFL is the second sort. Most of what we think, perhaps all of it, is uncertain to various degrees, and so does not constitute knowledge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, we have disagreed about what constitutes knowledge. That is a matter of opinion not fact. imo the 2 phrases constituted knowledge for me. Also, I disagree with your assessment of my inner thoughts and emotions because I know what they were and that you have interpreted them inaccurately. This is not avoidance or denial by one person. It is a disagreement between two people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Very interesting indeed. A guy that claims he saw his guru levitate off a stage in L.A. - wants to compare himself to a guy that hops on a foam mattress inside a trailer house in Chico . On 6/16/2014 10:39 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Watch those attributions, Ricky baby.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ralph's list ('The Name . . .)
Ha! Happened upon this piece again, and, hey, the emotions are now pretty much gone, but I still like the fine assed writing. Enjoy. Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Ann
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The mere idea of the person with the least ability to self-assess I've ever encountered on this planet using the phrase You have no idea how transparent you are in a sentence is a real hoot. I thank you for the belly laugh. :-) You've been providing all the belly laughs today, Mr Provocateur, now it's someone else's turn to try. However, I laughed harder at you today so you win. Come to think of it, this post of yours, is it inadvertently ironic or were you trying for the effect of hilarity?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ralph's list ('The Name . . .)
Here's the writing I liked: Re: True Evil Richard wrote: Total abortions in the United States since 1973: 48,589,993, all man-made murders on a massive scale and not a single word of objection from Mr. Ed. Okay, gang, Richard wants a public beating, again, so I'm going to deliver it. It's poetry time. As a legal protection, let me point out that all my opinions are opinions and not statements of proven truth. To the extent that I am projecting, sue me, but note that just because I can find these dark corners of evil represented in my psyche and amplify them into text doesn't invalidate my summations of him. Richard can also have these attributes, and -- OPINION STARTS NOW -- I maintain that these faint nuances at the bleak end of my moral spectrums can be found in Richard in all their fullest expressions of corrupt manifestation, and, additionally, I think he identifies with this low-dog status, and this accounts for the glee he obviously feels to present himself to others -- he glories in being exactly as depicted below: Richard J. Williams is an unmitigated prick. Richard J. Williams is an evil-supporting, war-mongering apologist for killing children for oil -- ample proof of his having approximately the I.Q. of a rehydrated wad of prehistoric coprolite. Richard J. Williams pretends to have spiritual acumen but is merely a cut-and-pasting plagiarizing sham with less status than a defrocked jailed priest. Richard J. Williams pretends to think important thoughts, but even the world's friendliest dog would tuck its tail and run from his vile presence. Richard J. Williams is a never-learned-shit-from-any-guru-or-scripture, smarmy, marauding, deranged, Internet troll. Richard J. Williams has all the immediate appeal of reeking turd shot out of a truck-smashed diseased snake. Richard J. Williams pretends to be holy and learned and wise by creating Web pages filled with delusions and lies and egoic puffery that any true-hearted person can instantly recognize as the dreck, the drivel, and the defective drainage of a doomed mind. Richard J. Williams' only intent when he posts is to annoy anyone in any thread so that he then gets anger directed at himself, and in this fashion he tries to publicly flagellate and abuse himself as a sick expiation of his spiritual effrontery. Richard J. Williams would change places with Bevan Morris in a heartbeat, and the world would never notice the difference. Richard J. Williams is the type of person that would immediately begin spasming in writhing agony and deep physical unstressing if he were to be in the presence of anything with the least bit of innocence -- even a plastic fake flower would do the triggering. Richard J. Williams would be the first person to go nuts in a foxhole and endanger the others. Richard J. Williams would think he was the logical choice to be captain of a lifeboat, but everyone at FairFieldLife knows he would be the first to be tossed overboard by a 100% vote of everyone else -- even a crippled, 87 year old, 96 pound, skeletal gaped mouthed person in a coma with one more day to live would be kept aboard rather than him. Richard J. Williams had the world handed to him by being born with elitist credentials that 99% of the world would envy but he has spent his lifetime being a simple jerkoff who leaves only failure, anger, and foul memories in his wake. Richard J. Williams is the type of person who romanticizes being a real terrorist who does really bad things, but if he did ever try for that great leap forward in his evolution, he would be immediately captured. Of course, he would never be waterboarded since even a short-bus chimpanzee could easily see him for the pure bullshitter that he is and that he's not even worth the price of the helicopter gas to get him into a rendition facility. Richard J. Williams will never recognize that he is a lurching clown at Rick's party who, wig askew, with vomit stains on his costume, would scare any child within 200 feet and is registering a 9.5 on Richter's creepy scale. Richard J. Williams is erotically charged by identifying with the persona of a lost pathetic deluded malevolence. I would suggest standing back a few feet from Richard J. Williams at all times. Come on, Richard, sue me for these opinions, and let me trot out all your writings in a court of law. I want to hear a judge laughing for the first time in my life. Edg
[FairfieldLife] For Michael -- Game Of Thrones comment
After watching the final episode of the season, I found myself thinking that Tywin Lannister is right up there in the all-time pantheon of egos who think they're better than the people they're used to intimidating, only to learn to their dismay -- and too late -- that they know nothing about them. He's right up there on that...uh...throne alongside the two J's -- Jimbo and Judy. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ralph's list ('The Name . . .)
Stop beating about the bush Edg, do you like him or not? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Here's the writing I liked: Re: True Evil Richard wrote: Total abortions in the United States since 1973: 48,589,993, all man-made murders on a massive scale and not a single word of objection from Mr. Ed. Okay, gang, Richard wants a public beating, again, so I'm going to deliver it. It's poetry time. As a legal protection, let me point out that all my opinions are opinions and not statements of proven truth. To the extent that I am projecting, sue me, but note that just because I can find these dark corners of evil represented in my psyche and amplify them into text doesn't invalidate my summations of him. Richard can also have these attributes, and -- OPINION STARTS NOW -- I maintain that these faint nuances at the bleak end of my moral spectrums can be found in Richard in all their fullest expressions of corrupt manifestation, and, additionally, I think he identifies with this low-dog status, and this accounts for the glee he obviously feels to present himself to others -- he glories in being exactly as depicted below: Richard J. Williams is an unmitigated prick. Richard J. Williams is an evil-supporting, war-mongering apologist for killing children for oil -- ample proof of his having approximately the I.Q. of a rehydrated wad of prehistoric coprolite. Richard J. Williams pretends to have spiritual acumen but is merely a cut-and-pasting plagiarizing sham with less status than a defrocked jailed priest. Richard J. Williams pretends to think important thoughts, but even the world's friendliest dog would tuck its tail and run from his vile presence. Richard J. Williams is a never-learned-shit-from-any-guru-or-scripture, smarmy, marauding, deranged, Internet troll. Richard J. Williams has all the immediate appeal of reeking turd shot out of a truck-smashed diseased snake. Richard J. Williams pretends to be holy and learned and wise by creating Web pages filled with delusions and lies and egoic puffery that any true-hearted person can instantly recognize as the dreck, the drivel, and the defective drainage of a doomed mind. Richard J. Williams' only intent when he posts is to annoy anyone in any thread so that he then gets anger directed at himself, and in this fashion he tries to publicly flagellate and abuse himself as a sick expiation of his spiritual effrontery. Richard J. Williams would change places with Bevan Morris in a heartbeat, and the world would never notice the difference. Richard J. Williams is the type of person that would immediately begin spasming in writhing agony and deep physical unstressing if he were to be in the presence of anything with the least bit of innocence -- even a plastic fake flower would do the triggering. Richard J. Williams would be the first person to go nuts in a foxhole and endanger the others. Richard J. Williams would think he was the logical choice to be captain of a lifeboat, but everyone at FairFieldLife knows he would be the first to be tossed overboard by a 100% vote of everyone else -- even a crippled, 87 year old, 96 pound, skeletal gaped mouthed person in a coma with one more day to live would be kept aboard rather than him. Richard J. Williams had the world handed to him by being born with elitist credentials that 99% of the world would envy but he has spent his lifetime being a simple jerkoff who leaves only failure, anger, and foul memories in his wake. Richard J. Williams is the type of person who romanticizes being a real terrorist who does really bad things, but if he did ever try for that great leap forward in his evolution, he would be immediately captured. Of course, he would never be waterboarded since even a short-bus chimpanzee could easily see him for the pure bullshitter that he is and that he's not even worth the price of the helicopter gas to get him into a rendition facility. Richard J. Williams will never recognize that he is a lurching clown at Rick's party who, wig askew, with vomit stains on his costume, would scare any child within 200 feet and is registering a 9.5 on Richter's creepy scale. Richard J. Williams is erotically charged by identifying with the persona of a lost pathetic deluded malevolence. I would suggest standing back a few feet from Richard J. Williams at all times. Come on, Richard, sue me for these opinions, and let me trot out all your writings in a court of law. I want to hear a judge laughing for the first time in my life. Edg
[FairfieldLife] to feste
Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Michael -- Game Of Thrones comment
I am smiling! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Michael -- Game Of Thrones comment After watching the final episode of the season, I found myself thinking that Tywin Lannister is right up there in the all-time pantheon of egos who think they're better than the people they're used to intimidating, only to learn to their dismay -- and too late -- that they know nothing about them. He's right up there on that...uh...throne alongside the two J's -- Jimbo and Judy. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: to feste
You're a lot more polite than I would be under the circumstances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Hi feste, I think FFL has an interesting quandry in that the vast majority of participants are at that stage in life that Piaget called Generativity which refers to the desire to pass along one's knowledge and wisdom to the younger generation. Except there is no younger generation on FFL! And, add to that, most of us are content with our lives so not likely to change our opinions, etc. which got us to this point. Plus, Judy and I are polar opposites not only in outlook but also in temperament. We will never agree. And I'm fine with that. However, when she's presenting opinion for fact or truth, I will express disagreement. I'm not expecting to change her mind. But I think it's important to express what I think to be true.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Michael -- Game Of Thrones comment
A little unsettling that even when watching your fantasy children's shows, you are thinking of me. Must be another technique demonstration, for the reporters of Highlight magazine... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : After watching the final episode of the season, I found myself thinking that Tywin Lannister is right up there in the all-time pantheon of egos who think they're better than the people they're used to intimidating, only to learn to their dismay -- and too late -- that they know nothing about them. He's right up there on that...uh...throne alongside the two J's -- Jimbo and Judy. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
*From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 6/16/2014 8:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:authfri...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. So, I wonder if the lurking reporters realize that the informant Barry is also a purported science writer? On 6/16/2014 9:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's actually how I met a couple of them. Others I've corresponded with because of their coverage of other cults, such as Scientology, the Andrew Cohen group, and pseudo-Christian groups. The latter are quite familiar with cult apologetics, and at determining what is fact, what is fantasy, and what are outright lies. They are also quite clear about my role here, which is that of provocateur, inciting people I consider cultists to lose their shit and thus reveal more of their cult thinking. Like some non-lurkers here, they may not agree with my tactics, but they often appreciate the results. :-) Keep up the good work! Let's make it as complicated as possible for the lurking, reporting, science writers. So far, it seems to be working since they don't seem to be able to determine what is fact, what is fantasy and what are outright lies. There's a monkey flying out of my butt right now. I wonder if the science writer lurkers would believe that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Barry: Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. Richard: Very interesting indeed. A guy that claims he saw his guru levitate off a stage in L.A. - wants to compare himself to a guy that hops on a foam mattress inside a trailer house in Chico . Ann: Watch those attributions, Ricky baby. Barry is blue text, italic 14 point; Ann is purple bold 14 point; Richard is the plain text.
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[FairfieldLife] Neverland
The dB's - Neverland (Live on Sound Opinions) http://youtu.be/gKU4MCzq6Fw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
Like. On 6/16/2014 8:07 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Wow. You'd think Barry was asleep and dreaming the whole time Robin was posting here. BTW, everything I'm about to say can be found in the FFL archives. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Interesting indeed. Compare and contrast to a couple of people on this forum who have claimed to be enlightened, and to thus perceive life from this platform of Unity. In Robin's case, of course, his claim was that he HAD BEEN enlightened, not that he still was. He had decided it was a bad deal and spent 25 years shedding it before he showed up here. One based his world teaching on striking his students in public Wrong. That happened one single time. and on driving out supposed demons from within them. The very *belief* that there is a demon world populated by beings who oppose the good world is based in dualism, and is a product of this faux-enlightened teacher's Christian hangups, Wrong. Robin rejected the whole demon-expelling thing AFTER he had converted to Roman Catholicism. He wasn't previously a Christian; if anything, he was a Hindu (Hinduism has its own demons, of course). And he told us over and over again how horrified he was at what he had been doing during the period he claimed to have been enlightened. It's hard to believe these mistakes are unintentional on Barry's part. not any experience of actual Unity. If he had really been experiencing Unity, and seeing the world in terms of Self, where within that seeing is the room for demons? Being in Unity doesn't mean seeing the world as a mass of undifferentiated mush. The other has gone on record many times about his willingness to harm others *if he feels the need to to so*, and has a long, long track record of attempting to use harmful and abusive language on this forum to make people he doesn't like feel bad about themselves. Just consider the inadvertent irony, folks, of BARRY criticizing anybody for trying to make those he doesn't like feel bad about themseves.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LightMint Gone Bad
LURKING REPORTERS: More ironclad evidence of why you should not trust what Barry tells you. Check it out with someone reliable. Just FYI, Judykins, I am in email contact with several of these lurking reports you are so terrified of, and all of them have been around long enough to not believe a word you say. They consider you just as much of a cult apologist as I do. So you might want to save your attempts to pander to them. Just sayin'... On 6/16/2014 9:06 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: / / Ho, ho, ho, hee, hee, hee, ha, ho, hee. This is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. First of all lurking reporters is a hilarious term let alone concept. Then the fact that bawee claims proudly to know these lurkers and that they are against Judy is hilarious - not only for its silliness but in the fact that reporters are reading anything here and taking it seriously. What paper do these reporters work for, The Daily Planet? (Snort) They are probably working for CAN or AFF or TM-Free. Apparently they report back to Mike Doughney and John Knapp.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
On 6/16/2014 12:42 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 06/16/2014 09:44 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/16/2014 11:22 AM, wgm4u wrote: You're right. BTW, Bush senior was against the invasion of Iraq. Too bad, Bush W didn't listen to his father. I guess they deserved Saddam Hussein after all. We had a lot of business going in there. Repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. It's all about the oil, Billy! The important thing now is that as we bugged out, the Iranians moved in a took over. Now what are we going to do about Iran being the super-power in the Middle East? If you think Saddam, as the founder of OPEC cartel, was difficult, just wait until we have to negotiate with a nuclear armed Iran. Now repeat after me: It was not about oil. It was not about oil. We have a special today only, buy two bridges and get one free! Keep your bridges - they'll be worthless without any gasoline for your car. You and the rest of America have an insatiable appetite for oil - you wouldn't last two weeks without gasoline and fuel to keep your lights on. You and America are gluttons for oil - you won't like paying $10 for a gallon of gasoline at a Murphy USA. You might as well put your car upon blocks - it's going nowhere near a bridge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : *We *had no business in Iraq in the first place. But apparently the military industrial complex felt they had *big *business there and we were given the bill. Let's not pay it. On 06/13/2014 12:41 PM, wgm4u wrote: Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF
Farming. Farmers, die of suicide at “four times” the rate of the general population. Farm Workers Far More Likely to Die of Suicide, Why? http://iowapublicradio.org/post/farm-workers-far-more-likely-die-suicide-why http://iowapublicradio.org/post/farm-workers-far-more-likely-die-suicide-why Farm Workers Far More Likely to Die of Suicide, Why? http://iowapublicradio.org/post/farm-workers-far-more-likely-die-suicide-why In January of 2011 when Ginnie Peters retired from the Perry Public Library, she was looking forward to spending more time with her husband, Matt, but she View on iowapublicradio.org http://iowapublicradio.org/post/farm-workers-far-more-likely-die-suicide-why Preview by Yahoo In The Making Of Megafarms, A Few Winners And Many Losers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/16/321705130/in-the-making-of-megafarms-a-few-winners-and-many-losers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/16/321705130/in-the-making-of-megafarms-a-few-winners-and-many-losers In The Making Of Megafarms, A Few Winners And Many ... http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/16/321705130/in-the-making-of-megafarms-a-few-winners-and-many-losers A tiny fraction of America's 2 million farmers produces most of our food. They are the winners of a long-running competition for land and profits that has... View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/06/16/321705130/in-the-making-of-megafarms-a-few-winners-and-many-losers Preview by Yahoo Yep, I feel the same way as 7Ray and Feste. Get off it MJ with your TM hate here. People die all the time and commit suicide too. Om come on now, there is nothing extraordinary in the suicide rates here. Divide it out how you like, it is small in the population just like most [except for farmers evidently]. Yes it is extremely disturbing when it happens and we are not without sympathy for the boy, his parents, and his communities of friends. We are all saddened and in a shock. His prospects were great, seems everyone liked him. Yes he was a child of the movement. You are making political hay with your bad thinking about causality and I feel that is appalling. Your observations may bare some general truth but your thinking is wrong trying to link it all exclusively to TM for your own agenda. Certainly the anti-TM blogs you frequent will go crazy on this. Shame on you, -Buck in the Dome SeventhRay27 writes: Michael, to the rest of the world, the fact that he sustained a serious brain injury two years ago, puts the whole issue in a different light, whether you wish to acknowledge this or not. You have amply demonstrated that you are capable of tying TM to most any negative event, whether it makes sense or not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Given the fact that it comes about a year after another siddha suicide and on the heels of many other suicides and attempted suicides by siddhas and governors, I think the whole thing needs to be looked at squarely and honestly. I won't be silenced about this. Of all the crap there is about the disconnect between what Marshy and the Movement advertise and the reality of what they and TM actually deliver, this bother me the most. If you don't want to deal with it Feste, then don't, but I won't be silent about this. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF The post from Sheer-el from when he was an MSAE student was about 10 years ago, I think. He did suffer a serious injury about two years ago. He was in a coma for a while, I believe. I did hear that it was some kind of brain injury. I wonder if that injury affected him in some way that no one knew about. This is a tragedy for the family and for Fairfield. I do think that people should not use it on this board to push their anti-TM views. It's not appropriate, particularly as we know nothing of the circumstances in this case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Sheer-el Cohen. He was employed at the Raj. Apparently this happened yesterday. http://www.8000now.com/audiotext/Sheer-elCohenText.htm http://www.8000now.com/audiotext/Sheer-elCohenText.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ralph's list ('The Name . . .)
On 6/16/2014 1:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Ha! Happened upon this piece again, and, hey, the emotions are now pretty much gone, but I still like the fine assed writing. Enjoy. Like. Edg
