Re: [FairfieldLife] Disbelief in Seattle

2015-02-04 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That one tunnel is now a bus-train tunnel. After much ado, the Alaskan Way 
Viaduct is also being replaced with a tunnel that will serve vehicles. 
Bertha, the largest tunnel boring machine in the world is currently stuck and 
broken. Real estate in Pioneer Square is settling.  A complicated problem for 
the engineers it has been.  There were a lot of politics involved in the 
decision to move forward with a tunnel along the Waterfront.   

 Downtown Seattle Transit Tunnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Seattle_Transit_Tunnel 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Seattle_Transit_Tunnel 
 
 Downtown Seattle Transit Tunnel - Wikipedia, the fre... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Seattle_Transit_Tunnel The Downtown 
Seattle Transit Tunnel (DSTT), also referred to as the Metro Bus Tunnel, is a 
1.3-mile-long (2.1 km) pair of tunnels for public transit that run north–...
 
 
 
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 Seattle's unbelievable transportation megaproject fustercluck 
http://grist.org/cities/seattles-unbelievable-transportation-megaproject-fustercluck/
 
 
 
 
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 Seattle's unbelievable transportation megaproject... 
http://grist.org/cities/seattles-unbelievable-transportation-megaproject-fustercluck/
 Seattle is involved in a slow-motion catastrophe, as construction of a new 
car-centric tunnel grinds to a halt and cost overruns loom.
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emily, 

 Are they going to use light trains for the tunnels in downtown Seattle?  As I 
remember, they were using regular buses in the tunnels 2004.  But they've 
planned the tunnels to be convertible to light rail trains in case the city 
decided to use that option in the future.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote :

 Seattle has changed a lot in the last 10 years and will continue to.  Planning 
for population is always a challenge.  Should have gone the way of mass transit 
decades ago. Yes, the tourist landmarks will stay.   

 Census: Seattle is the fastest-growing big city in the U.S. 
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2014/05/22/census-seattle-is-the-fastest-growing-big-city-in-the-u-s/
 
 
 
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2014/05/22/census-seattle-is-the-fastest-growing-big-city-in-the-u-s/
 
 Census: Seattle is the fastest-growing big city in the U... 
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2014/05/22/census-seattle-is-the-fastest-growing-big-city-in-the-u-s/
   We've come a long way from the 'Will the last person leaving Seattle –Turn 
out the lights' era of the 1970s. Last year, Seattle grew faster than any o...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 My first long term time in Seattle was in the summer of 1962 when the World's 
Fair was on and I had a summer job with my brother.  It was really a neat place 
then and easy to get around on even on a bus.  Then 1965 as UW student through 
1969.  Then I came back again in 1972 and lived there through 1982.   Moved to 
Redmond in 1989 and split for California in 1991.  I saw a lot of changes over 
those times but downtown was still pretty accessible in 1991.  It wasn't like 
SF.  In fact I've seen SF change over time and wondered why they didn't go the 
Portland route.
 
 Most of the change I'm talking about would have happened in the 2000s.  
Downtown is a cluster of very big buildings.  Usually when I visited friends 
during the 00s we never went downtown but in 2007 just after Xmas I had some 
AMC passes so we went downtown to see a movie.  It was a mess!  My friends have 
bought another home on the Oregon coast and are retiring there this summer. 
 
 On 02/03/2015 10:00 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Seattle couldn't have changed that much since I left in 2004.  From what 
I've seen on TV, they still have Pike Place Market.  That's a tourist landmark 
for the city.  IMO, they'd leave it the way it is for tourists and the culture 
there.  I used to eat lunch there, at least, once a week.
 

 They've gotta have the Pioneer Square, the Downtown Shopping Center, the ferry 
boats, and the Space Needle.  That's Seattle as I remember it.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 A lot of Seattlelites have dibelief in the place and are moving out.  It isn't 
the city I knew in the 1970s.  My last visit in 2007, the downtown resembled 
something out of Bladerunner.
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Which stretches from southeastern Europe on the Black Sea all the way into Asia 
on the Caspian Sea, so if your progenitors came from the more northwestern part 
of the Caucasus region, the scholars are still correct - southern Europe.

  From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
   
    My paternal haplogroup, which occurs almost exclusively in a small 
percentage of Ashkenazi Jews, originated in the Caucasus region. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

No one knows where the Ashkenazim came from but most scholars think they 
started in southern Italy and other parts of southern Europe. 

  From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
 
 

By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long before 
the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have any 
historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was called 
Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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|  | |  | Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Israelites 
(/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, -reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who 
inhabited part of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th... |  |
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :

Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :


According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- jr_esq@... wrote :

Jason,
There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in the 
USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.



---jr_esq@... wrote :

No,I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written 
byBhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and thecosmological 
models that have been discussed here for the past week orso.
Butit is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis 

[FairfieldLife] Columubus: Sephardi??

2015-02-04 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Wikipaedia:

 Simon Wiesenthal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wiesenthal postulates that 
Columbus was a Sephardi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardi (Spanish Jew), 
careful to conceal his Judaism yet also eager to locate a place of refuge for 
his persecuted fellow countrymen. Wiesenthal argues that Columbus' concept of 
sailing west to reach the Indies was less the result of geographical theories 
than of his faith in certain Biblical texts—specifically the Book of Isaiah. He 
repeatedly cited two verses from that book: Surely the isles shall wait for 
me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver 
and their gold with them, (60:9); and For behold, I create new heavens and a 
new earth (65:17). Wiesenthal claimed that Columbus felt that his voyages had 
confirmed these prophecies.[86] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_theories_of_Christopher_Columbus#cite_note-114

 



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2015-02-04 Thread 'mdixon.6569' mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
just say We don't know but the event is analyzable . . . then go home and have 
dinner with the SO.  Instead of calling it 'random' - which is just woo for 
science folks who are afraid the conversation might degrade into talking about 
spirits or the soul. But then, I'm a hard ass  :  )

[FairfieldLife] Move review: Inherent Vice

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you ever read any Thomas Pynchon back in his heyday (V, The Crying Of Lot 
49, Gravity's Rainbow), you know that he has a...uh...somewhat tenuous 
relationship with that thing that most people call reality. 

So what would happen, one is tempted to wonder, if such a writer decided to 
write an L.A. detective novel? The result might be, as the back-cover blurb for 
Inherent Vice specified, part-noir, part-psychedelic romp, all Thomas 
Pynchon—private eye Doc Sportello comes, occasionally, out of a marijuana haze 
to watch the end of an era as free love slips away and paranoia creeps in with 
the L.A. fog.

And what would happen if a filmmaker with a similarly tenuous relationship with 
reality (Paul Thomas Anderson) decided to make a movie of it, starring weirdass 
actors like Joaquin Phoenix, Josh Brolin, Eric Roberts, Maya Rudolph, Benicio 
Del Toro, Jena Malone, Owen Wilson, Reese Witherspoon, and a host of 
lesser-known actors and actresses who all look remarkably at home walking 
around in a drug-induced early-70s narco-fog? 

It would be like a private detective trying to solve a mystery in a universe in 
which by definition mysteries cannot ever be solved. Or something like that. 

Director-screenwriter PTA manages to parse Pynchon's long-winded language well 
enough to fit some good examples of it into the screenplay, so occasionally 
there is a voiceover one-liner that just grabs you by the gnarlies and shakes 
you and makes you say, Wow, that's good writing! But as to whether the whole 
film makes you say, Wow, that's good filmmaking, the jury is still out for 
me...and I just watched it. 

The movie flows, in the same sense that being stoned in L.A. in the early 70s 
flowed, meaning that it was groovy without making any sense. Back in the 
actual 70s, that would have been enough. In 2015, I'm not convinced it is. All 
I can say right now is that I wasn't stoned while watching this but am a bit 
after watching it. I'm not sure whether feeling that way is a good enough 
reason to recommend this movie or not.

But the one thing I do know is that it sure is a delight to hear Tom Pynchon 
taking on Chandleresque 70s-stoned L.A.-speak:

* She came along the alley and up the back steps the way she always used to. 
Doc hadn't seen her for over a year. Nobody had. Back then it was always 
sandals, bottom half of a flower-print bikini, faded Country Joe  the Fish 
t-shirt. Tonight she was all in flatland gear, hair a lot shorter than he 
remembered, looking just like she swore she'd never look.

* What goes around may come around, but it never ends up exactly the same 
place, you ever notice? Like a record on a turntable, all it takes is one 
groove's difference and the universe can be on into a whole 'nother song.

* He's technically Jewish but wants to be a Nazi.  

* Hair and drug-use issues notwithstanding, I've never thought of you as any 
less than professional.

* As a courtesy I’m taking you out to the impound garage to get your vehicle. 
We’ve been over it with the best tools available to forensic science, and 
except for enough cannabis debris to keep an average family of four stoned for 
a year, you’re clean. No blood or impact evidence we can use. Congratulations.

* Though he may have rescued Japonica from a life of dark and unspecified 
hippie horror, apparently restoration to the bosom of her family had been 
enough to really drive her around the bend.

* What was 'walking on water,' if it wasn’t Bible talk for surfing?

* You can only cruise the boulevards of regret for so long, and then you've 
got to get up on the freeways again. 

* Back when, she could go weeks without anything more complicated than a pout. 
Now she was laying some heavy combination of face ingredients on him that he 
couldn't read at all.

* They told me that I was precious cargo that couldn't be insured because of 
Inherent Vice.
   What's that?
   I don't know
   [Narrator] Inherent Vice, in a marine insurance policy, is anything that 
you can't avoid. Eggs break, chocolate melts, glass shatters. And Doc wondered 
what that meant when applied to ex old ladies.
   
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi4155813401/




[FairfieldLife] Friday! Iowans Return to Freedom Summer at Sondheim

2015-02-04 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]

Special Fairfield Screening at Friday's Art Walk!

Iowans Return to Freedom Summer

Friday, February 6 . 7:30 pm
Sondheim Center, Fairfield Arts  Convention Center





See this moving, powerful documentary recounting the experiences of six
Iowans who participated in the Mississippi Summer Project before it airs on
Iowa Public Television later this month.

Filmmaker and Freedom Summer volunteer Patti Miller weaves first hand
accounts with striking footage by Richard Beymer and photographs by Herb
Randall, to provide a glimpse into the experiences and motivations of white
Iowa students who traveled to the deep South to help black Mississippians
register to vote fifty years ago. 

A question and answer session with Miller and others involved in the film
follows the premiere. 

And Don't Miss:

6:00 pm - Excerpt from Stanley Nelson's Freedom Summer, a PBS American
Experience Film

7:00 pm - A Regular Bouquet, a film by Richard Beymer also about Freedom
Summer

7:30 pm - Patti Miller's Iowans Return to Freedom Summer

Visit us on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/IowansReturnToFreedomSummerKHAF 


Iowans Return to Freedom Summer is a project of the Keeping History Alive
Foundation, a 501c3 dedicated to educating students about the Civil Rights
Movement so they may learn from it's history and lead our country into a
more enlightened future. 

For more information: www.iowansreturntofreedomsummer.com
http://iowansreturntofreedomsummer.com 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 We show that European and Near Eastern lineages largely fall into discrete, 
ancient clusters, with minor episodes of gene flow, suggesting that haplogroup 
K diversified separately in Europe
and the Near East during the last glacial period.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/pdf/ncomms3543.pdf 
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/pdf/ncomms3543.pdf

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote :

 just say We don't know but the event is analyzable . . . then go home and have 
dinner with the SO.  Instead of calling it 'random' - which is just woo for 
science folks who are afraid the conversation might degrade into talking about 
spirits or the soul. But then, I'm a hard ass  :  )

  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Move review: Inherent Vice

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
THINGS then did not delay in turning curious. If one object behind her 
discovery of what she was to label the Tristero System or often only The 
Tristero (as if it might be something's secret title) were to bring to an end 
her encapsulation in her tower, then that night's infidelity with Metzger would 
logically be the starting point for it; logically (Pynchon, 3. 44, 1966). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 If you ever read any Thomas Pynchon back in his heyday (V, The Crying Of 
Lot 49, Gravity's Rainbow), you know that he has a...uh...somewhat tenuous 
relationship with that thing that most people call reality. 

So what would happen, one is tempted to wonder, if such a writer decided to 
write an L.A. detective novel? The result might be, as the back-cover blurb for 
Inherent Vice specified, part-noir, part-psychedelic romp, all Thomas 
Pynchon—private eye Doc Sportello comes, occasionally, out of a marijuana haze 
to watch the end of an era as free love slips away and paranoia creeps in with 
the L.A. fog.

And what would happen if a filmmaker with a similarly tenuous relationship with 
reality (Paul Thomas Anderson) decided to make a movie of it, starring weirdass 
actors like Joaquin Phoenix, Josh Brolin, Eric Roberts, Maya Rudolph, Benicio 
Del Toro, Jena Malone, Owen Wilson, Reese Witherspoon, and a host of 
lesser-known actors and actresses who all look remarkably at home walking 
around in a drug-induced early-70s narco-fog? 

It would be like a private detective trying to solve a mystery in a universe in 
which by definition mysteries cannot ever be solved. Or something like that. 

Director-screenwriter PTA manages to parse Pynchon's long-winded language well 
enough to fit some good examples of it into the screenplay, so occasionally 
there is a voiceover one-liner that just grabs you by the gnarlies and shakes 
you and makes you say, Wow, that's good writing! But as to whether the whole 
film makes you say, Wow, that's good filmmaking, the jury is still out for 
me...and I just watched it. 

 

 The movie flows, in the same sense that being stoned in L.A. in the early 
70s flowed, meaning that it was groovy without making any sense. Back in the 
actual 70s, that would have been enough. In 2015, I'm not convinced it is. All 
I can say right now is that I wasn't stoned while watching this but am a bit 
after watching it. I'm not sure whether feeling that way is a good enough 
reason to recommend this movie or not.

But the one thing I do know is that it sure is a delight to hear Tom Pynchon 
taking on Chandleresque 70s-stoned L.A.-speak:

* She came along the alley and up the back steps the way she always used to. 
Doc hadn't seen her for over a year. Nobody had. Back then it was always 
sandals, bottom half of a flower-print bikini, faded Country Joe  the Fish 
t-shirt. Tonight she was all in flatland gear, hair a lot shorter than he 
remembered, looking just like she swore she'd never look.

* What goes around may come around, but it never ends up exactly the same 
place, you ever notice? Like a record on a turntable, all it takes is one 
groove's difference and the universe can be on into a whole 'nother song.

* He's technically Jewish but wants to be a Nazi.  

* Hair and drug-use issues notwithstanding, I've never thought of you as any 
less than professional.

* As a courtesy I’m taking you out to the impound garage to get your vehicle. 
We’ve been over it with the best tools available to forensic science, and 
except for enough cannabis debris to keep an average family of four stoned for 
a year, you’re clean. No blood or impact evidence we can use. Congratulations.

* Though he may have rescued Japonica from a life of dark and unspecified 
hippie horror, apparently restoration to the bosom of her family had been 
enough to really drive her around the bend.

* What was 'walking on water,' if it wasn’t Bible talk for surfing?

* You can only cruise the boulevards of regret for so long, and then you've 
got to get up on the freeways again. 

* Back when, she could go weeks without anything more complicated than a pout. 
Now she was laying some heavy combination of face ingredients on him that he 
couldn't read at all.

* They told me that I was precious cargo that couldn't be insured because of 
Inherent Vice.
   What's that?
   I don't know
   [Narrator] Inherent Vice, in a marine insurance policy, is anything that 
you can't avoid. Eggs break, chocolate melts, glass shatters. And Doc wondered 
what that meant when applied to ex old ladies.
   
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi4155813401/ 
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi4155813401/
 http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi4155813401/
 

 






[FairfieldLife] Re:

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Nice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 

 

 

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2015-02-04 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
could u include thins link?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Disbelief in Seattle

2015-02-04 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I made a little trip today down to Mountain View to a little company 
whose name starts with G.  I don't know whether they will make it or not.


Anyway this was kinda last minute and there was fog all the way down 680 
until just past Fremont.  Such fun.  Then I notice they now have tool 
HOV lanes although with the fog cleared there was not much advantage 
since it was after rush hour.  I would hate to make that commute 
everyday but people do.


On 02/03/2015 12:55 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


You were in Seattle when I was there.  I used to live in the Magnolia 
district.  When I got to the city, I found an apartment near the top 
of a hill and the living room window was overlooking the Ballard 
Bridge.  I was paying $600 per month for the place which was a steal 
compared to the San Francisco rates for the same view.



But I soon realized that it was dangerous living on a steep hill 
during the winter.  I found that my car would not stop while going 
down the hill.  Even with the brakes on, the car would slide down the 
icy road.  So, I had to intermittently put the brakes on to safely 
glide down below.


I eventually moved to Federal Way to find an apartment on flatter 
ground and with good vastu.  It was cheaper too than the one in the city.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

My first long term time in Seattle was in the summer of 1962 when the 
World's Fair was on and I had a summer job with my brother.  It was 
really a neat place then and easy to get around on even on a bus.  
Then 1965 as UW student through 1969.  Then I came back again in 1972 
and lived there through 1982.   Moved to Redmond in 1989 and split for 
California in 1991.  I saw a lot of changes over those times but 
downtown was still pretty accessible in 1991.  It wasn't like SF.  In 
fact I've seen SF change over time and wondered why they didn't go the 
Portland route.


Most of the change I'm talking about would have happened in the 
2000s.  Downtown is a cluster of very big buildings.  Usually when I 
visited friends during the 00s we never went downtown but in 2007 just 
after Xmas I had some AMC passes so we went downtown to see a movie.  
It was a mess!  My friends have bought another home on the Oregon 
coast and are retiring there this summer.


On 02/03/2015 10:00 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Seattle couldn't have changed that much since I left in 2004.  From 
what I've seen on TV, they still have Pike Place Market.  That's a 
tourist landmark for the city.  IMO, they'd leave it the way it is 
for tourists and the culture there.  I used to eat lunch there, at 
least, once a week.



They've gotta have the Pioneer Square, the Downtown Shopping Center, 
the ferry boats, and the Space Needle.  That's Seattle as I remember it.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... 
mailto:noozguru@... wrote :


A lot of Seattlelites have dibelief in the place and are moving out.  
It isn't the city I knew in the 1970s.  My last visit in 2007, the 
downtown resembled something out of Bladerunner.


On 02/02/2015 12:52 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

I predicted for a friend in Seattle that the Seahawks would win 
because the city smokes bhong legally.  As such, Shiva would help 
them win the game.  But, as America saw, that was not so.



And Richard Sherman was heartbroken.


Disbelief at final offensive play call reigned on Seattle sideline 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/02/disbelief-at-final-offensive-play-call-reigned-on-seattle-sideline/













Re: [FairfieldLife] Disbelief in Seattle

2015-02-04 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I try not to cross the Bay Bridge, or any of the bridges or freeways in the SF 
Bay Area, during the commute hours.  We're glad you made it back home in one 
piece. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I made a little trip today down to Mountain View to a little company whose 
name starts with G.  I don't know whether they will make it or not.
 
 Anyway this was kinda last minute and there was fog all the way down 680 until 
just past Fremont.  Such fun.  Then I notice they now have tool HOV lanes 
although with the fog cleared there was not much advantage since it was after 
rush hour.  I would hate to make that commute everyday but people do.
 
 On 02/03/2015 12:55 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   You were in Seattle when I was there.  I used to live in the Magnolia 
district.  When I got to the city, I found an apartment near the top of a hill 
and the living room window was overlooking the Ballard Bridge.  I was paying 
$600 per month for the place which was a steal compared to the San Francisco 
rates for the same view.
 

 But I soon realized that it was dangerous living on a steep hill during the 
winter.  I found that my car would not stop while going down the hill.  Even 
with the brakes on, the car would slide down the icy road.  So, I had to 
intermittently put the brakes on to safely glide down below.
 
 I eventually moved to Federal Way to find an apartment on flatter ground and 
with good vastu.  It was cheaper too than the one in the city.
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 My first long term time in Seattle was in the summer of 1962 when the World's 
Fair was on and I had a summer job with my brother.  It was really a neat place 
then and easy to get around on even on a bus.  Then 1965 as UW student through 
1969.  Then I came back again in 1972 and lived there through 1982.   Moved to 
Redmond in 1989 and split for California in 1991.  I saw a lot of changes over 
those times but downtown was still pretty accessible in 1991.  It wasn't like 
SF.  In fact I've seen SF change over time and wondered why they didn't go the 
Portland route.
 
 Most of the change I'm talking about would have happened in the 2000s.  
Downtown is a cluster of very big buildings.  Usually when I visited friends 
during the 00s we never went downtown but in 2007 just after Xmas I had some 
AMC passes so we went downtown to see a movie.  It was a mess!  My friends have 
bought another home on the Oregon coast and are retiring there this summer. 
 
 On 02/03/2015 10:00 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Seattle couldn't have changed that much since I left in 2004.  From what 
I've seen on TV, they still have Pike Place Market.  That's a tourist landmark 
for the city.  IMO, they'd leave it the way it is for tourists and the culture 
there.  I used to eat lunch there, at least, once a week.
 

 They've gotta have the Pioneer Square, the Downtown Shopping Center, the ferry 
boats, and the Space Needle.  That's Seattle as I remember it.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 A lot of Seattlelites have dibelief in the place and are moving out.  It isn't 
the city I knew in the 1970s.  My last visit in 2007, the downtown resembled 
something out of Bladerunner.
 
 On 02/02/2015 12:52 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   I predicted for a friend in Seattle that the Seahawks would win because the 
city smokes bhong legally.  As such, Shiva would help them win the game.  But, 
as America saw, that was not so.
 
 
 And Richard Sherman was heartbroken.
 
 
 Disbelief at final offensive play call reigned on Seattle sideline
 
 

 


 




 




 





[FairfieldLife] Bitter Lake

2015-02-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Adam Curtis has made a name for himself with some out-of-left-field 
documentaries. His latest offering looks at the disaster of western 
intervention in Afghanistan. Wonderfully hypnotic footage and a compelling 
soundtrack make it an enjoyable ride.


 From one reviewer: The argument of Curtis’s pulpit provocation is that the 
pickle we’re in now dates back to the deal Franklin D Roosevelt did with the 
Saudis to gain access to Arab oil. The virulent faith of Wahhabism, a 
fundamentalist vision of Islam that was born in the 18th century in Saudi 
Arabia, was permitted to flourish by the West, and slowly spread its ever 
mutating tentacles into other Muslim territories. The Russians and, after 9/11, 
the British were duly caught up in this cynical power play, and here we all 
are, ushered to the brink of an abyss by a succession of clueless Western 
leaders who have infantilised world geopolitics into a binary face-off between 
good (us) and evil (whoever we don’t like).
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXcpDO8_3qU 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXcpDO8_3qU




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are so polite

2015-02-04 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I took Barry's comment to be a gotta get a reaction from somebody quota type 
thing. 

 I suppose Barry is more of an academic, or movie critic, so really, I wouldn't 
expect him to understand the nuances of what it might be like to be in a combat 
situation.
 

 Not that I have, but being in real life, engaging with all manner of people,  
running a small business, you get a feel for what it's like to protect your 
interests.
 

 It is quite a bit different from sitting in a cafe all day and watching 
pirated movies. (-:
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 It should be noted that neither Barry or Michael Moore ever served in the 
military. If they were in a combat situation, they would probably refuse to 
shoot a terrorist about to behead a fellow combatant. Instead, they would 
probably head for the nearest coffee house in town to count their money. Go 
figure.

Moore posted his opinion of American Sniper on stronger terms on his 
Facebook page January 29, including a hefty heap of his trademark pompous, 
whiny victimhood.

Michael Moore: My 'Fatwa'-Issuing Conservative Critics Are an 'American ISIS' 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 
 
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 
 Michael Moore: My 'Fatwa'-Issuing Conservative C... 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 Vice Magazine has posted a long, fawning interview with limousine leftist 
documentary maker Michael Moore, infamous for his recent Twitter attack o...


 
 View on newsbusters.org 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 I bet if I was a soldier in combat, I would be mighty glad of the snipers, 
long as they were on my sdie, shootin' at the soldiers who wanted to kill me. 

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 1:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
 
 
   
 Another word for sniper is coward. And snipers are considered one step up 
from the lowest form of coward -- drone pilots -- because they actually have to 
go out into battle and hide behind a tree, whereas the drone pilot gets to sit 
in a safe building somewhere and play video games.  

 


 From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
 
 
   I've not seen this new Clint Eastwood movie yet - and I hadn't realized that 
Chris Kylie was dead - and indeed had been murdered.
 

 To show that nations will show pride in any record they can lay claim to, the 
other day I was half amused and half disturbed to see the British press crowing 
about the following claim: 

 A British sniper has 173 confirmed victims compared to 160 by the subject of 
Oscar-nominated American Sniper. The corporal, who is still serving, made the 
majority of his kills during a single six-month tour of Helmand province eight 
years ago.  . . . At one point the sniper shot 90 Taliban fighters in a single 
day. 

 The world record for the longest-range kill is held by a British soldier at 
more than two-and-a-half kilometers.
 

 However the Finns can boast of holding first place in this grisly contest: 
Simo Hayha, a Finnish soldier nicknamed White Death, was credited with 505 
sniper kills during the Winter War of 1939 to 1940, when the Soviet Union 
invaded Finland.

 

 It has been a common practice around the world for captured snipers to be 
executed out of hand. Rather odd considering that all sides use snipers(!) but 
probably explained by the gut instinct we have that snipers (like unrestricted 
submarine warfare) seem to be not playing the game according to the rules of 
chivalry!
 

 From Wiki: The negative reputation of snipers can be traced back to the 
American Revolution, when American Marksmen would intentionally target 
British officers, an act considered uncivilized by the British Army.
 

 To end, here's a true tale of sniper action that neatly illustrates the utter 
futility of war:
 

 During WWI there was a famous truce on Christmas Day 1914 when British and 
German troops met and fraternized in no man's land. But at one end of the line 
things didn't go so smoothly. 
 

 The peace of Christmas morning was shattered by the piercing, solitary shot of 
a sniper's rifle fired from a German trench. Private Percy Huggins, who was on 
sentry duty at a forward 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mummified Monk is not dead

2015-02-04 Thread salyavin808


I told you he was just meditating. I was joking though.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 This qualifies for a believe it or not story.
 

 Mongolian mummified monk 'not dead' http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338

 
 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338
 
 Mongolian mummified monk 'not dead' 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338 A mummified monk found preserved in 
Mongolia last week is baffling those who uncovered him, with senior Buddhists 
saying he is still alive.


 
 View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 According to you, all the quantum physicists are lazy?

I suppose assuming about spirits and soul, is hard 
scientific work?  You sure are a hard ass.


--- inmadison@... wrote :

  just say We don't know but the event is analyzable . . . 
then go home and have dinner with the SO.  Instead of 
calling it 'random' - which is just woo for science folks 
who are afraid the conversation might degrade into talking 
about spirits or the soul.But then, I'm a hard ass  :  )

Claiming some event is random just means the event is too 
complicated and we don't understand it yet.  So there is no 
calling a thing random, that is only being lazy.
  



  


[FairfieldLife] Name that movie

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In a movie, you're only allowed to be in the list of actor/actress credits if 
your character has a speaking role. Even if your character says Hi and that's 
your only line, you get a screen credit. 

So, even given the rampant gender bias in Hollywood, what would you think of a 
movie that contains 93 female characters in the credits, but only 49 of those 
female characters have names, and their dialogue constitutes only 1.1% of the 
entire script. Pretty sexist, eh? Given this information, you'd almost expect 
the movie to be one those misogynist slasher epics in which women are only 
present to get raped, treated like property, and/or stoned to death, and aren't 
really considered as important as the men, right? 

This Is How Many Words Are Spoken By Women In The Bible

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Science backfires for Fairfield :-)

2015-02-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Have you ever looked at mindfulness research? 

 Most of it makes TM research look absolutely brilliant in its design and 
execution.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 While you can never fully trust science, you can pretty much distrust TMO 
promoted science as a matter of course. TMO promoted science is about 1% 
reliable based on various reviews of study size, controls, and experimental 
design. It's the dumbing down effect of religious memes that prevent 
researchers from thinking more clearly along scientific lines. It is difficult 
enough to do science properly without also having to get approval from people 
whose minds work along the lines of metaphysical fantasy. 

 I don't have to do recreational drugs any more, as the doctors have been 
loading me up on additional pills and injections as I get older and more 
decrepit (the latter, according to TMO science is a sign my age is reversing)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 You can never fully trust science. Take this study, for example. If Fairfield, 
IA's claimed reputation as an early-to-bed, fairly drug-free, and fairly 
non-promiscuous small town is true, all that really means is that its 
population isn't very intelligent.  :-) 

 

 Research Shows Intelligent People Stay Up Late, Do More Drugs, And Have More 
Sex 
http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/research-shows-intelligent-people-stay-up-late-do-more-drugs-and-have-more-sex/
 

  
  
 
http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/research-shows-intelligent-people-stay-up-late-do-more-drugs-and-have-more-sex/
  
  
  
  
  
 Research Shows Intelligent People Stay Up Late, Do More ... 
http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/research-shows-intelligent-people-stay-up-late-do-more-drugs-and-have-more-sex/
 By Steven Bancarz|  What is the mark of an intelligent mind in our day and 
age?  When we think of intelligent people, we may have been conditioned to 
envision them ...


 
 View on www.spiritscience... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Church of Scientology targets film critics over Going Clear documentary

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_%28Scientology%29


  From: eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 4:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Church of Scientology targets film critics over Going 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

--- anartaxius@... wrote :

 This is not necessarily so. Comments in your text.

I'd like to riff on this.

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :

 Xeno, let's use a little logic here. If you existed before 
you were born, you will continue to exist after you die.
If you didn't exist before you were born, you will not exist 
after you die.

There are multiple possibilities here:

1. You could exist before you were born, be born and live, then die and not 
exist.

That's what happens when, what eastern phil call enlightenment happens.

2. You could exist before you were born, be born and live, then die and 
exist.

That's reincarnation, crux of the eastern phil.

3. You could exist before you were born, be stillborn dead, and then exist.
4. You could exist before you were born, be stillborn dead, and then not 
exist.
5. You could not exist before you were born, be born and live, and then die 
and not exist.

If there is no such thing as individual jiva, a bundle of subtle 
vasanas, yes.

6. You could not exist before you were born, be born and live, and then die 
and exist

Yes, but you still would have to cease at some point. That which has a 
beginning must have an end.

7. You could not exist before you were born, be stillborn and dead, and 
then exist.
8. You could not exist before you were born, be stillborn and dead, and 
then not exist. (This last one is a real bummer, but of course you would never 
know)

An infinite regress and infinite progress of incarnations is 
not possible. All things have a beginning and an end. The 
reverse of this is your point no. 5.

In both the scenarios, there is no hope of enlightenment. In 
the first scenario you are in eternal bondage. In the second 
scenario, your condition though hopeless, is comparatively 
more merciful.


What is not so clear is how these various scenarios could work out to be true. 
Simply saying there is a law of karma and that it is 'subtler' than the laws of 
physics. is just a way of avoiding describing how the whole thing works, and 
whether there is any evidence that could support the idea. The laws of physics 
describe things that are far beyond the ability of the human nervous system to 
perceive or feel or even experience, but they are not necessarily beyond the 
ability of machines to detect, which allows us to experience those things by 
proxy as a mental construct, but never directly.

Karma is the theory of cause and effect, action and 
reaction. In other words it's balance. Yes, no direct proof, 
but the fact that you exist and have all these experiences 
should make you ponder.


First of all, what does one mean when we use the word 'you'. Is it the same 
'you' before birth, at birth and in life, and after death, or what? The 
experience of, or perhaps, the knowledge of, being as an undefined 
attribute-less substratum of all existence that remains before, during, and 
after bodies are  born and perish might be considered one's existence, but it 
then excludes the life of the body with its mental panorama and personality 
(what we normally consider a person) as being what the 'you' really are. That 
personality is not what is maintained throughout birth and death in this case. 

In this case 'you' is your self or being.

On the other hand if what people normally consider a person is is somehow 
maintained through the mill of birth and death, the 'you' that we usually mean 
when we talk to someone, how does that happen? How is the essence of that 
personality stored in between births, and where is it stored, and how is it 
reconstituted? This all seems extraordinarily vague to me; people tell me it 
does, and leave it at that, which means they do not know otherwise they could 
explain it.

My view of birth and death is this: All things that exist have being. Being is 
an abstract principle that all things, individually and collectively (that is, 
the universe as a whole) have. Being is equivalent of having existence, no 
matter what kind or how. It is totally obvious, anything that exists has being. 
It is a definition. When the human mind and senses experience an aspect of this 
being and loses sight as it were, of the connectivity of existence, the 
totality of all the separate beings together, it experiences this aspect of 
being as a separate object or thing, and thus the being, which appears to have 
the property of consciousness under certain circumstances (such as when an 
aspect of being is a nervous system complex enough to have senses and a decent 
CPU, is 'born' as that object, not because something is happening, but because 
the perception and knowledge of timeless eternity is lost in that perception. 
If the totality of being is not lost in perception and knowledge, then nothing 
is born or dies. So the reality or non reality of birth and death is really 
just a matter of how narrow or wide perception and knowledge is. The 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

 You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long 
before the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have 
any historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was 
called Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites
 
 Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites The Israelites (/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, 
-reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who inhabited part 
of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th...


 
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :
 
 Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Jason, 

 There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in 
the USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
 

 And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.
 

 
 ---jr_esq@... wrote :

 No, I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written by 
Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological 
models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. 

 But it is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinking 
about the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict.  For both the Jews and 
Arabs, they blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews to perform 
their duties as the Chosen People in the Bible.
 
--- salyavin808@... wrote :


 The fact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills me with dread. 
Someone should point out that it doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever 
you like. Believing that god gave you all the land west of the river Jordan 
doesn't - or shouldn't - make it so. A bit less arrogance on that front might 
have worked wonders in 1948.
 
--- turquoiseb@... wrote :


 A strong case can be made that it is the very existence of this Chosen 
People myth that has caused the ongoing persecution of Jews over the 
centuries. Historically, the same sort of persecution hounds *any* religious 
group who consider themselves 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are so polite

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I bet if I was a soldier in combat, I would be mighty glad of the snipers, long 
as they were on my sdie, shootin' at the soldiers who wanted to kill me. 

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 1:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
   
    Another word for sniper is coward. And snipers are considered one step 
up from the lowest form of coward -- drone pilots -- because they actually have 
to go out into battle and hide behind a tree, whereas the drone pilot gets to 
sit in a safe building somewhere and play video games.  
 

 From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
   
    I've not seen this new Clint Eastwood movie yet - and I hadn't realized 
that Chris Kylie was dead - and indeed had been murdered.
To show that nations will show pride in any record they can lay claim to, the 
other day I was half amused and half disturbed to see the British press crowing 
about the following claim:
A British sniper has 173 confirmed victims compared to 160 by the subject of 
Oscar-nominated American Sniper. The corporal, who is still serving, made the 
majority of his kills during a single six-month tour of Helmand province eight 
years ago.  . . . At one point the sniper shot 90 Taliban fighters in a single 
day.
The world record for the longest-range kill is held by a British soldier at 
more than two-and-a-half kilometers.
However the Finns can boast of holding first place in this grisly contest: Simo 
Hayha, a Finnish soldier nicknamed White Death, was credited with 505 sniper 
kills during the Winter War of 1939 to 1940, when the Soviet Union invaded 
Finland.

It has been a common practice around the world for captured snipers to be 
executed out of hand. Rather odd considering that all sides use snipers(!) but 
probably explained by the gut instinct we have that snipers (like unrestricted 
submarine warfare) seem to be not playing the game according to the rules of 
chivalry!
From Wiki: The negative reputation of snipers can be traced back to the 
American Revolution, when American Marksmen would intentionally target 
British officers, an act considered uncivilized by the British Army.
To end, here's a true tale of sniper action that neatly illustrates the utter 
futility of war:
During WWI there was a famous truce on Christmas Day 1914 when British and 
German troops met and fraternized in no man's land. But at one end of the line 
things didn't go so smoothly. 
The peace of Christmas morning was shattered by the piercing, solitary shot of 
a sniper's rifle fired from a German trench. Private Percy Huggins, who was on 
sentry duty at a forward listening post just 20 yards from the enemy, was 
killed with a single bullet to the head. News of the 23-year-old soldier's 
death enraged his comrades of D company Hertfordshire regiment, especially his 
platoon Sergeant Tom Gregory. The experienced soldier demanded he take Pte 
Huggins' place so he could avenge his comrade's death. He immediately set about 
scanning the frost-covered ground before identifying the sniper, who he took 
out with a single shot. Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of the deadly 
exchange. Sgt Gregory continued scouring the enemy lines and located a second 
sniper in his sights. But the German marksman had already spotted him and in a 
split-second action, he shot and killed Sgt Gregory.







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

If you don't have a gun and don't know how to shoot straight, how are you going 
to kill the terrorists?

AUSTIN — Two years after Chris Kyle's death, and days before the man accused of 
killing him goes to trial, the retired Navy SEAL depicted in the blockbuster 
movie American Sniper received a state day Monday in his honor...

Texas establishes 'Chris Kyle Day' 2 years after his death
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-establishes-chris-kyle-day-2-years-death-232043229.html
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

but a backyard is not a place to have legal shooting ranges. The politicians in 
FL who allow this must be insane - we don't even have that kind of crap here in 
South Carolina
and FYI Sal, the NRA is run by a megalomaniac demagogue named Wayne Lapierre 
who loves to be the power that has all the politicians running scared- plus he 
gets lots of money from the gun industry for promoting their agendas which is 
basically to sell sell sell! He is a fuck head who needs a real good ass 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Whereas claiming that it is possible to understand everything ISN'T lazy?  :-)
 From: inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:55 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
   
    Claiming some event is random just means the event is too complicated and 
we don't understand it yet.  So there is no calling a thing random, that is 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Stupid Bowl

2015-02-04 Thread turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 ... It's not just a matter of peanut vendors vs athletes. There is an entire 
industry creating millions of jobs( at all levels) and products which are all 
taxed for the *common good*. Professional sports also gives people a way of 
taking their minds off of the grind of every day life, for a few hours. It's 
kind of funny, in certain markets we often hear that crime rates drop during 
big games! Talk about your Maharishi effect! I think professional sports is 
very healthy for society, psychologically and economically.
 










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No one knows where the Ashkenazim came from but most scholars think they 
started in southern Italy and other parts of southern Europe. 

  From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
   
    

By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long before 
the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have any 
historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was called 
Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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(/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, -reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who 
inhabited part of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th... |  |
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :

Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :


According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- jr_esq@... wrote :

Jason,
There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in the 
USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.



---jr_esq@... wrote :

No,I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written 
byBhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and thecosmological 
models that have been discussed here for the past week orso.
Butit is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinkingabout 
the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict.  For both the Jewsand Arabs, they 
blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews toperform their duties as 
the Chosen People in the Bible.
--- salyavin808@... wrote :

Thefact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills me with 
dread.Someone should point out that it doesn't give you carte blanche to 
dowhatever you like. Believing that god gave you all the land west of theriver 
Jordan doesn't - or shouldn't - make it so. A bit less arroganceon that front 
might have worked wonders in 1948.
--- turquoiseb@... wrote :

Astrong case can be made that it is the very existence of this 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My paternal haplogroup, which occurs almost exclusively in a small percentage 
of Ashkenazi Jews, originated in the Caucasus region. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

 No one knows where the Ashkenazim came from but most scholars think they 
started in southern Italy and other parts of southern Europe. 
 

 From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
 
 
   

 
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

 You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long 
before the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have 
any historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was 
called Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites
 
 Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites The Israelites (/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, 
-reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who inhabited part 
of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th...


 
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :
 
 Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Jason, 

 There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in 
the USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
 

 And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.
 

 
 ---jr_esq@... wrote :

 No, I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written by 
Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological 
models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. 

 But it is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinking 
about the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict.  For both the Jews and 
Arabs, they blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews to perform 
their duties as the Chosen People in the Bible.
 
--- salyavin808@... wrote :


 The fact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Apparently the explanation for these observations is a common genetic origin, 
which is consistent with an historical formulation of the Jewish people as 
descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelite residents of the Levant.

All studies nevertheless agree that genetic overlap with the Fertile Crescent 
exists in both lineages, albeit at differing rates.

Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews 
 
 Ashkenazi Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews Ashkenazi Jews, also known as 
Ashkenazic Jews or simply Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכְּנַזִּים, Ashkenazi Hebrew 
pronunciation: [ˌaʃkəˈnazim], singular: [...
 
 
 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 No one knows where the Ashkenazim came from but most scholars think they 
started in southern Italy and other parts of southern Europe. 
 

 From: jason_green2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
 
 
   

 
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

 You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long 
before the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have 
any historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was 
called Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites
 
 Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites The Israelites (/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, 
-reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who inhabited part 
of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th...


 
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :
 
 Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- jr_esq@... wrote :

 Jason, 

 There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in 
the USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
By my logic those that won the war get to do what they want with the land and 
the resources. Since the Allies won the war they got to chop up the Middle East 
how they saw fit and so they drew lines in the sand on ethnic and language 
lines. There are no Red Indians in North America the native inhabitants all 
came over from Asia. 

Anyone who actively supports the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish 
nation is a zionist. Do you acknowledge the right of Saudi Arabia to exist as 
a Muslim nation? What the Palestinians and most other Arabs really want is to 
wipe the Jewish state of Israel out of existence.

If so, then it's hard to see on what grounds you would deny a comparable right 
to Israel – especially considering what the Jews have endured throughout their 
history, and especially considering that Israel is the one and *only* Jewish 
nation -- in contrast to the Muslims, who have twenty-something nations (and a 
vastly larger land mass) under their control.

One quick quiz according to Delia:

Who should be in control of Jerusalem?

Answers to choose from:

A. Palestinians/Muslims
B. Israelis/Jews
C. It should be under joint control, since it's important to both religions.
D. The United Nations

Answers:

A is clearly anti-semitic.

C and D are pretty much equivalent, and both are borderline antisemitism, 
or possibly just plain ignorance.

B makes the most sense, and is the obvious choice if one has any respect at 
all for Jews and their traditions.

Note: Muslims have Mecca as their holy city (which non-muslims are not even 
allowed to set foot in); and they also have Medina, their second-holiest city, 
which is the birthplace of Muhammed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :

 
 
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire 
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They 
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.

Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate 
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The 
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never 
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.

Besides, there was never any need to partition the 
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for 
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there, 
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already 
there.


--- richard@... wrote :

 You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long 
before the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have 
any historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was 
called Judea? I think not. 

Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for 
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The 
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this 
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.

The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved 
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous 
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE.

Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites
 
 Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites The Israelites (/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, 
-reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who inhabited part 
of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods (15th...


 
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--- jason_green2@... wrote :
 
 Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. 
(Mark 7:25-26).

And He was saying to her, Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs. (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles dogs in the same way we would 
call someone a bitch (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- richard@... wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where Zion is, hence Zionism). 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Columubus: Sephardi??

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not Bloody Likely, since he spent the last few years of his life writing 
religious tracts glorifying his role in the conversion of barbarians to the 
true faith, Catholicism. Sounds to me as if Simon Wiesenthal is guilty of 
trying to find more prominent Jews in history than actually existed there. :-)
It's actually more likely that Columbus (in addition to being responsible for 
genocide and systematic torture during his periods as governor in the new 
worlds he discovered) was Catalan, not Jewish. At least this theory has some 
scholarship backing it up: (Christopher Columbus writings prove he was Spanish, 
claims study - Telegraph). (It's fairly hilarious that the Telegraph writer 
missed the entire point of the research he was writing up and claimed in a 
headline something other than what the researchers found -- that he was 
Spanish. Their linguistic research didn't say that at all...it suggested that 
he was *Catalan*, which is *not* the same as being Spanish, especially during 
that era. It would have been almost as unacceptable for a Catalan person to be 
favored by the royalty as it would have for a Jew to be so favored.)


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Simon Wiesenthal postulates that Columbus was a Sephardi (Spanish Jew), careful 
to conceal his Judaism yet also eager to locate a place of refuge for his 
persecuted fellow countrymen. Wiesenthal argues that Columbus' concept of 
sailing west to reach the Indies was less the result of geographical theories 
than of his faith in certain Biblical texts—specifically the Book of Isaiah. He 
repeatedly cited two verses from that book: Surely the isles shall wait for 
me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver 
and their gold with them, (60:9); and For behold, I create new heavens and a 
new earth (65:17). Wiesenthal claimed that Columbus felt that his voyages had 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are so polite

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 It should be noted that neither Barry or Michael Moore ever served in the 
military. If they were in a combat situation, they would probably refuse to 
shoot a terrorist about to behead a fellow combatant. Instead, they would 
probably head for the nearest coffee house in town to count their money. Go 
figure.

Moore posted his opinion of American Sniper on stronger terms on his 
Facebook page January 29, including a hefty heap of his trademark pompous, 
whiny victimhood.

Michael Moore: My 'Fatwa'-Issuing Conservative Critics Are an 'American ISIS' 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 
 
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 
 
 Michael Moore: My 'Fatwa'-Issuing Conservative C... 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2015/02/03/michael-moore-my-fatwa-issuing-conservative-critics-are-american-isis
 Vice Magazine has posted a long, fawning interview with limousine leftist 
documentary maker Michael Moore, infamous for his recent Twitter attack o...
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 I bet if I was a soldier in combat, I would be mighty glad of the snipers, 
long as they were on my sdie, shootin' at the soldiers who wanted to kill me. 

 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 1:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
 
 
   
 Another word for sniper is coward. And snipers are considered one step up 
from the lowest form of coward -- drone pilots -- because they actually have to 
go out into battle and hide behind a tree, whereas the drone pilot gets to sit 
in a safe building somewhere and play video games.  

 


 From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why European tourists you meet in America are 
so polite
 
 
   I've not seen this new Clint Eastwood movie yet - and I hadn't realized that 
Chris Kylie was dead - and indeed had been murdered.
 

 To show that nations will show pride in any record they can lay claim to, the 
other day I was half amused and half disturbed to see the British press crowing 
about the following claim: 

 A British sniper has 173 confirmed victims compared to 160 by the subject of 
Oscar-nominated American Sniper. The corporal, who is still serving, made the 
majority of his kills during a single six-month tour of Helmand province eight 
years ago.  . . . At one point the sniper shot 90 Taliban fighters in a single 
day. 

 The world record for the longest-range kill is held by a British soldier at 
more than two-and-a-half kilometers.
 

 However the Finns can boast of holding first place in this grisly contest: 
Simo Hayha, a Finnish soldier nicknamed White Death, was credited with 505 
sniper kills during the Winter War of 1939 to 1940, when the Soviet Union 
invaded Finland.

 

 It has been a common practice around the world for captured snipers to be 
executed out of hand. Rather odd considering that all sides use snipers(!) but 
probably explained by the gut instinct we have that snipers (like unrestricted 
submarine warfare) seem to be not playing the game according to the rules of 
chivalry!
 

 From Wiki: The negative reputation of snipers can be traced back to the 
American Revolution, when American Marksmen would intentionally target 
British officers, an act considered uncivilized by the British Army.
 

 To end, here's a true tale of sniper action that neatly illustrates the utter 
futility of war:
 

 During WWI there was a famous truce on Christmas Day 1914 when British and 
German troops met and fraternized in no man's land. But at one end of the line 
things didn't go so smoothly. 
 

 The peace of Christmas morning was shattered by the piercing, solitary shot of 
a sniper's rifle fired from a German trench. Private Percy Huggins, who was on 
sentry duty at a forward listening post just 20 yards from the enemy, was 
killed with a single bullet to the head. News of the 23-year-old soldier's 
death enraged his comrades of D company Hertfordshire regiment, especially his 
platoon Sergeant Tom Gregory. The experienced soldier demanded he take Pte 
Huggins' place so he could avenge his comrade's death. He immediately set about 
scanning the frost-covered ground before identifying the sniper, who he took 
out with a single shot. Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of the deadly 
exchange. Sgt Gregory continued scouring the enemy lines and located 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Science backfires for Fairfield :-)

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 There are two main problems with scientific studies of meditation: 1) a 
scientific definition of meditation and 2) exclude the randomized placebo 
effect with controlled trials. Most scientific studies on the subject are not 
double-blind studies.

According to Harris, there is no substitute for time spent engaging these 
practices on retreat.

Sam Harris http://www.samharris.org/blog/category/meditation 
 
 http://www.samharris.org/blog/category/meditation 
 
 Sam Harris http://www.samharris.org/blog/category/meditation Sam Harris, 
neuroscientist and author of the New York Times bestsellers, The End of Faith, 
Letter to a Christian Nation, and The Moral Landscape.
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 Have you ever looked at mindfulness research? 

 Most of it makes TM research look absolutely brilliant in its design and 
execution.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 While you can never fully trust science, you can pretty much distrust TMO 
promoted science as a matter of course. TMO promoted science is about 1% 
reliable based on various reviews of study size, controls, and experimental 
design. It's the dumbing down effect of religious memes that prevent 
researchers from thinking more clearly along scientific lines. It is difficult 
enough to do science properly without also having to get approval from people 
whose minds work along the lines of metaphysical fantasy. 

 I don't have to do recreational drugs any more, as the doctors have been 
loading me up on additional pills and injections as I get older and more 
decrepit (the latter, according to TMO science is a sign my age is reversing)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 You can never fully trust science. Take this study, for example. If Fairfield, 
IA's claimed reputation as an early-to-bed, fairly drug-free, and fairly 
non-promiscuous small town is true, all that really means is that its 
population isn't very intelligent.  :-) 

 

 Research Shows Intelligent People Stay Up Late, Do More Drugs, And Have More 
Sex 
http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/research-shows-intelligent-people-stay-up-late-do-more-drugs-and-have-more-sex/
 

  
  
 
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 Research Shows Intelligent People Stay Up Late, Do More ... 
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 By Steven Bancarz|  What is the mark of an intelligent mind in our day and 
age?  When we think of intelligent people, we may have been conditioned to 
envision them ...


 
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[FairfieldLife] There are many forms of child abuse

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This barber will publicly shame your misbehaving kid with an old man’s haircut
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[FairfieldLife] Mummified Monk is not dead

2015-02-04 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This qualifies for a believe it or not story.
 

 Mongolian mummified monk 'not dead' http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338

 
 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338 
 
 Mongolian mummified monk 'not dead' 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338 A mummified monk found preserved in 
Mongolia last week is baffling those who uncovered him, with senior Buddhists 
saying he is still alive.
 
 
 
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