Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each
day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered
members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these
posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times,
suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he
needs.
So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of
criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters
there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him
to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that
what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors.
So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the
facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the
only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before
he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't
even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that
even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion
on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his
throw-some-nastiness-around fix.
Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and
spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or
female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment
of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on
the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every
time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a
random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines
about Barry's day.
Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of
his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying,
Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet?
Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel
better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-)
From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
12:00 pm - 05:00 amA restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with
Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim,
Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and
cults
06:00 - 7:00 amBarry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school
and walk the dogs to earn free rent
07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy
trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick
10:00 - 12:00Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something
interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ
12:00 - 02:00Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food.
02:00 - 4:00 pmPick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent
04:00 pm - 10:00 pmWrite on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy,
calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns
around Amsterdam.
10:00 - 12:00 pmRead random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress
the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ
12:00 pmBarry exhausted, drifting to sleep.
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[FairfieldLife] Yee Haww For Texas!!!
Senate approves open carry on party-line vote 6:21 p.m. Monday, March 16, 2015 | The Texas Senate gave initial approval Monday to a bill allowing for holstered handguns to be openly carried, turning aside a flurry of amendments from Democrats in a series of party-line votes. On a 20-11 vote, the Senate’s Republicans approved Senate Bill 17, with final passage likely for Tuesday, the same day a House committee will hold its first public hearing on a similar measure. Also Tuesday, the Senate will hold its initial vote on a second gun measure, allowing concealed handguns in college and university buildings. SB 17 would allow those with a concealed handgun license to openly carry firearms in a shoulder or belt holster. The bill also would let business owners forbid openly carried handguns on their premises by displaying prominent signs. “We have about 800,000 concealed handgun license holders in this state that I feel like have been vetted and trained and can be trusted,” said the bill’s author, Sen. Craig Estes, R-Wichita Falls. “I believe in freedom,” Estes said. “The question we should ask is not why can they (openly carry handguns), but why are they forbidden from doing this?” Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, said the bill was a solution in search of a problem.“What are you really trying to accomplish today? Help me,” Whitmire said. “The really, really average Texan does not understand the relevance of your proposals (or see) how they would make Texas a better place to work or live.” The 20 Senate Republicans turned aside Democratic amendments that would have banned openly carried guns in city halls or within 1,000 feet of public parks. Democrats also failed in attempts to allow cities and counties to opt in or opt out of the state’s open carry law or to require those openly carrying handguns to also display their concealed handgun license as an aid to police officers.Whitmire offered an amendment banning open carry in the Capitol, warning that the large number of schoolchildren who visit would be put at risk if a “disturbed person” grabbed an available gun from a holster.“It’s not if it’s going to happen, it’s when,” Whitmire said, his voice rising to a shout. “You’re making a huge mistake.” Calling Whitmire’s fears far-fetched, Estes said he did not want to exempt the Capitol from a law that other government offices will have to follow.Monday’s vote came on the first day the Senate could vote on a bill that had not been declared an emergency by Gov. Greg Abbott.Estes amended his bill to delay implementation until Jan. 1, 2016, saying the Department of Public safety asked for the four-month delay to help it prepare.Estes also accepted amendments from Sen. Judith Zaffirini, D-Laredo, requiring that handgun license instruction include information on retention holsters and techniques to securely carry handguns, and one from Sen. Joan Huffman, R-Houston, clarifying that open carry would not be allowed in buildings or public areas of college campuses. SB 17 would not change the requirements to receive a concealed handgun license, and a current license holder would not have to reapply to openly carry a handgun.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry, it's okay, IMO opinion to have given up on the spiritual game. Very understandable in fact. But to replace it with the degree of pettiness to which you've descended? Re-evaluate man. Re-evaluate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sure, Jimbo. Having no desire to interact with me ever again is why you're addressing me directly in this post, right? And being fully content to hang with the high-vibe crowd over on The_Leak is why you still read FFL so compulsively that you are responding to my post so soon after I made it, right? Might I point out to those trying to make up their own minds that Jimbo has still never admitted to being enlightened_dawn11, although everyone knows he was. And yet he thinks we'll believe him this time? Still the same old six-pack, several cans short... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it. Have a nice day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
If anyone can look at Scientology and the behavior of Scientologists and think
its not a cult.
And as I have said before, if anyone can look at the Movement with its
supposedly celibate King, it robe and crown wearing little king-lets and their
tendency to block up or lock up all south facing entrances, avoid solar
eclipses and keep the pundits in a stalag and think it isn't a cult
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
So,evidently “religious philosophy” as mentioned in this article isnot the
same thing as religion. Is religious philosophy necessarilycult-ish in your
book? You seem to assert TM is a religiousphilosophy coming out of religion,
like Scientology in this article? Is there a level of religious philosophy
where they are justpractices or philosophy for people in life. Is there a point
whereyou draw a line between religious philosophy in practice and cultsfor
people?Justwondering, you seem intent on painting cult on everything
andeveryone.
Fromthe article:“It'sa religious philosophy, so when I'm sitting there,
studying aboutsomething, I'm oftentimes sitting next to guys from Nation of
Islamand friends who are fully Jewish and other friends who are Catholicand
Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, who's a Baptist minister.”
Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
||
|| Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Religious
philosophy is philosophical thinking that is inspired and directed by religion.
There are different philosophies for each religion such as those of :||
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
this one is good too
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From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
Please explain to me how Scientology is not a cult. Then lets deal with the
TMO.
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
Okayit is all or nothing for you and you make no distinction
betweenpractitioners and the movements. Not much to converse over with youas
such. Evidently they all are cultists in your book withoutgradation or scope.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
If anyone can look at Scientology and the behavior of Scientologists and think
its not a cult.
And as I have said before, if anyone can look at the Movement with its
supposedly celibate King, it robe and crown wearing little king-lets and their
tendency to block up or lock up all south facing entrances, avoid solar
eclipses and keep the pundits in a stalag and think it isn't a cult
So,evidently “religious philosophy” as mentioned in this article isnot the
same thing as religion. Is religious philosophy necessarilycult-ish in your
book? You seem to assert TM is a religiousphilosophy coming out of religion,
like Scientology in this article?Is there a level of religious philosophy where
they are justpractices or philosophy for people in life. Is there a point
whereyou draw a line between religious philosophy in practice and cultsfor
people?Justwondering, you seem intent on painting cult on everything
andeveryone.
Fromthe article:“It'sa religious philosophy, so when I'm sitting there,
studying aboutsomething, I'm oftentimes sitting next to guys from Nation of
Islamand friends who are fully Jewish and other friends who are Catholicand
Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, who's a Baptist minister.”
Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
| |
| | Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Religious
philosophy is philosophical thinking that is inspired and directed by religion.
There are different philosophies for each religion such as those of : | |
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry, I think you have more than the touch of narcissism, that you've admitted to. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 pm Barry exhausted, drifting to sleep. Another day ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away! This place is like an outside toilet for the Peaksters: need to take a dump on someone's head but don't want to fall foul of the moderator? Easy, nip over to FFL and let it all out. Even the moderator can indulge his need. Must be real satisfying in utopia... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 pm Barry exhausted, drifting to sleep. Another day ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hava Nagila, Hav 2 Nagila, Hav 3 Nagila, take 4 they're small
Arab citizens are allowed to vote in Israel and it's not determined by
religion. It's a matter of citizenship. Arab residents in east Jerusalem,
Palestinian controlled areas and Gaza who have no allegiance to Israel, and
are seeking autonomy, are considered residents, not citizens, therefore can
not vote. All citizens can vote. It's an age old debate as to who the original
inhabitants were. Canaanites, Jews, whoever? Mark Twain noted on his travels
through Palestine very few people, only the occasional Bedouin goat herder in
the 1870's or 80's. The overwhelming majority of people occupying that land,
immigrated from outside, both Arabs and Jews and came after British took
control after WW1.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hava Nagila, Hav 2 Nagila, Hav 3 Nagila, take 4
they're small
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Sad day for Israel. Benny is nutcase. Bet the election was rigged.
Sad day for the original inhabitants who had their country stolen by immigrants
and perpetuated by the free west so they could have an outpost in the middle
east.
I would say the election was rigged by the fear of giving Palestinians a
democratic say in what happens to them. More than half of people in Israel
weren't allowed to vote because of their religion. Some democracy...
On 03/17/2015 04:24 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Netanyahu declares victory.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it. Have a nice day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 pm Barry exhausted, drifting to sleep. Another day ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Sure, Jimbo. Having no desire to interact with me ever again is why you're
addressing me directly in this post, right?
And being fully content to hang with the high-vibe crowd over on The_Leak is
why you still read FFL so compulsively that you are responding to my post so
soon after I made it, right?
Might I point out to those trying to make up their own minds that Jimbo has
still never admitted to being enlightened_dawn11, although everyone knows he
was. And yet he thinks we'll believe him this time? Still the same old
six-pack, several cans short... :-)
From: reverse_arch...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as
usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to
interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it.
Have a nice day.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each
day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered
members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these
posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times,
suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he
needs.
So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of
criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters
there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him
to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that
what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors.
So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the
facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the
only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before
he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't
even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that
even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion
on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his
throw-some-nastiness-around fix.
Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and
spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or
female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment
of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on
the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every
time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a
random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines
about Barry's day.
Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of
his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying,
Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet?
Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel
better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-)
From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
12:00 pm - 05:00 amA restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with
Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim,
Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and
cults
06:00 - 7:00 amBarry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school
and walk the dogs to earn free rent
07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy
trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick
10:00 - 12:00Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something
interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ
12:00 - 02:00Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food.
02:00 - 4:00 pmPick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent
04:00 pm - 10:00 pmWrite on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy,
calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns
around Amsterdam.
10:00 - 12:00 pmRead random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress
the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ
12:00 pmBarry exhausted, drifting to sleep.
Another day ends.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
So, evidently “religious philosophy” as mentioned in this article is not the same thing as religion. Is religious philosophy necessarily cult-ish in your book? You seem to assert TM is a religious philosophy coming out of religion, like Scientology in this article? Is there a level of religious philosophy where they are just practices or philosophy for people in life. Is there a point where you draw a line between religious philosophy in practice and cults for people? Just wondering, you seem intent on painting cult on everything and everyone. From the article: “It's a religious philosophy, so when I'm sitting there, studying about something, I'm oftentimes sitting next to guys from Nation of Islam and friends who are fully Jewish and other friends who are Catholic and Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, who's a Baptist minister.” Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy is philosophical thinking that is inspired and directed by religion. There are different philosophies for each religion such as those of : View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : this one is good too PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in the Church of Scientology http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in... http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Pre-order the issue here View on www.papermag.com http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Preview by Yahoo From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective PAPERMAG: Growing Up in Fairfield, Iowa -- America's Transcendental Meditation Mecca http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php PAPERMAG: Growing Up in Fairfield, Iowa -- America's... http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php Among the white barns, brick silos and verdant farmlands of Middle America is the city that Maharishi built. View on www.paperm... http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
Okay it is all or nothing for you and you make no distinction between practitioners and the movements. Not much to converse over with you as such. Evidently they all are cultists in your book without gradation or scope. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If anyone can look at Scientology and the behavior of Scientologists and think its not a cult. And as I have said before, if anyone can look at the Movement with its supposedly celibate King, it robe and crown wearing little king-lets and their tendency to block up or lock up all south facing entrances, avoid solar eclipses and keep the pundits in a stalag and think it isn't a cult So, evidently “religious philosophy” as mentioned in this article is not the same thing as religion. Is religious philosophy necessarily cult-ish in your book? You seem to assert TM is a religious philosophy coming out of religion, like Scientology in this article? Is there a level of religious philosophy where they are just practices or philosophy for people in life. Is there a point where you draw a line between religious philosophy in practice and cults for people? Just wondering, you seem intent on painting cult on everything and everyone. From the article: “It's a religious philosophy, so when I'm sitting there, studying about something, I'm oftentimes sitting next to guys from Nation of Islam and friends who are fully Jewish and other friends who are Catholic and Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, who's a Baptist minister.” Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy is philosophical thinking that is inspired and directed by religion. There are different philosophies for each religion such as those of : View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : this one is good too PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in the Church of Scientology http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in... http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Pre-order the issue here View on www.papermag.com http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Preview by Yahoo From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective PAPERMAG: Growing Up in Fairfield, Iowa -- America's Transcendental Meditation Mecca http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php PAPERMAG: Growing Up in Fairfield, Iowa -- America's... http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php Among the white barns, brick silos and verdant farmlands of Middle America is the city that Maharishi built. View on www.paperm... http://www.papermag.com/2015/03/fairfield_iowa_maharishi_transcendental_meditation.php Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world [1 Attachment]
The attached image (message-history.gif) shows as of today, the relative posting to Fairfield Life and The Peak. The drop in postings to Fairfield Life as a result of the migration to The Peak is plain enough. In my opinion the reduction in diversity has resulted in fewer posts all around, and often much less interesting posts. Fairfield life can still provide some interest as some TBs are still posting here. I think ak ak was the language that Tim Burton created for the Martians in his movie Mars Attacks! https://top50sf.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/marsattackslist.jpg https://top50sf.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/marsattackslist.jpg ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 pm Barry exhausted, drifting to sleep. Another day ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Rather typical, I think, of the way Sal operates. Thinks he knows more than he does, and not ashamed of pushing it out there. Fuck off back to happy land Steve, there's a good chap. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Rather typical, I think, of the way Sal operates. Thinks he knows more than he does, and not ashamed of pushing it out there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) Let's be honest, who wouldn't want to read our stuff every day. It's just a shame some of those who left because they didn't like the smell stick around and make the biggest stench they can. Damn childish I call it. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
A, that's the good ol' FFL we used to know!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Rather typical, I think, of the way Sal operates.
Thinks he knows more than he does, and not ashamed of pushing it out there.
Fuck off back to happy land Steve, there's a good chap.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email
address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the
header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything
about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your
own FFL identity as well.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Just look what you wrote, Sal. The problem with making authoritative statements when you are just speculating, is that oftentimes they are wrong. Please don't pin it on me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Rather typical, I think, of the way Sal operates. Thinks he knows more than he does, and not ashamed of pushing it out there. Fuck off back to happy land Steve, there's a good chap. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
[FairfieldLife] A. H. Almaas: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 03/18/2015
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
So, it's all about Jim Flanegin. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
There is a trail in the header which may disclose the IP address where the email came even if it is no_reply but it is often very general. Even my IP address is for a location some 35 miles from here because that's where my ISP maintains their leases. Gets worse in Europe where the ISP may maintain the leases in another country. I also seem to notice that U-Verse is using static IPs as my IP hasn't changed in over two years even shutting and restarting gateway which with regular DSL would often change the IP. On 03/18/2015 06:40 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Alert!!
Asking the important questions! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : God A-Mighty! Wonder what the Movement's secret instructions are on how to avoid shore enuff rough karma on this day of days!!!??? It's not just the eclipse that you should watch out for on Friday http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/solar-eclipse-supermoon-spring-equinox-friday-will-see-three-rare-celestial-events-10111592.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/solar-eclipse-supermoon-spring-equinox-friday-will-see-three-rare-celestial-events-10111592.html It's not just the eclipse that you should watch out for ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/solar-eclipse-supermoon-spring-equinox-friday-will-see-three-rare-celestial-events-10111592.html As the eclipse plunges the UK and other places into darkness this Friday, two other rare if less spectacular celestial events will be taking place, too: a Supermoon... View on www.independent.c... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/solar-eclipse-supermoon-spring-equinox-friday-will-see-three-rare-celestial-events-10111592.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective
The definition of a cult implies the element of force or coercion, as in they forced me to work in the kitchen or they forced me to get down on my hands and knees and pray twice a day, or they locked me inside a golden dome and made me try to fly. In your case, they apparently used a mind-control technique and then they put you in a trance-induction state in order to cause your chronic cognitive dissonance. Apparently you were housed alone in a small pod, deprived of sleep and fed only vegetarian food. They forced you to get up at the crack of dawn and work in the kitchen and bakery. Every minute of your day was probably already planned out with assigned minders watching over you to make sure you didn't break your celibacy and your meditation schedule. They probably indoctrinated you with endless hours of tapes, videos and speeches at meetings. For years you were made to bow and scrape in front of the elite administrators of the religious school at ceremonies. This kind of human cult slavery is just outrageous! Gawd! Only when you were fully programmed by the cult would they let you escape from the camp in the middle of the night on a Greyhound bus to get back to your mother's place. In another two weeks you probably would have been a walking nut-case or a raging maniac. You are to be congratulated on your daring escape from the sex cult, Sir! What I can't understand though, is why you refuse to see a cult-exit counselor or a professional, after going through such a hellish experience for all those years. Go figure. My advice would be for you to get yourself a PTSD dog as a pet to keep you company - take it with you everywhere and to your AA meetings. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Please explain to me how Scientology is not a cult. Then lets deal with the TMO. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective Okay it is all or nothing for you and you make no distinction between practitioners and the movements. Not much to converse over with you as such. Evidently they all are cultists in your book without gradation or scope. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If anyone can look at Scientology and the behavior of Scientologists and think its not a cult. And as I have said before, if anyone can look at the Movement with its supposedly celibate King, it robe and crown wearing little king-lets and their tendency to block up or lock up all south facing entrances, avoid solar eclipses and keep the pundits in a stalag and think it isn't a cult So, evidently “religious philosophy” as mentioned in this article is not the same thing as religion. Is religious philosophy necessarily cult-ish in your book? You seem to assert TM is a religious philosophy coming out of religion, like Scientology in this article? Is there a level of religious philosophy where they are just practices or philosophy for people in life. Is there a point where you draw a line between religious philosophy in practice and cults for people? Just wondering, you seem intent on painting cult on everything and everyone. From the article: “It's a religious philosophy, so when I'm sitting there, studying about something, I'm oftentimes sitting next to guys from Nation of Islam and friends who are fully Jewish and other friends who are Catholic and Reverend Alfreddie Johnson, who's a Baptist minister.” Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Religious philosophy is philosophical thinking that is inspired and directed by religion. There are different philosophies for each religion such as those of : View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_philosophy Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : this one is good too PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in the Church of Scientology http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php PAPERMAG: Danny Masterson Tells Us About His Life in... http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Pre-order the issue here View on www.papermag.com http://www.papermag.com/2015/02/danny_masterson_scientology.php Preview by Yahoo From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi School retrospective PAPERMAG: Growing Up in Fairfield, Iowa -- America's Transcendental
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We the First Cause?
A belief is not evidence of anything. I have beliefs too. They are not evidence either. Humans cannot observe the results of a double slit experiment directly, their sensory apparatus is too crude to see anything of this sort. The role of humans is in interpreting the readouts of machines that perform the experiment, human consciousness is involved in setting up the machines, but is not illuminating anything during the experiment as far as what goes on with the slits and beams of light themselves. Most quantum mechanical experiments of this kind take place where information of the effects of the experiment could not even reach a human observer before the experimental session is over. So the human observer has no direct effect whatever on the results. The fact, as we interpret it however remains, that light acts as a wave and as a particle. Here is what Einstein said of it (regarding classical physics and quantum physics): 'It seems as though we must use sometimes the one theory and sometimes the other, while at times we may use either. We are faced with a new kind of difficulty. We have two contradictory pictures of reality; separately neither of them fully explains the phenomena of light, but together they do'. -- From Wikipedia: 'The particle-like behaviour is most evident due to phenomena associated with measurement in quantum mechanics. Upon measuring the location of the particle, the particle will be forced into a more localized state as given by the uncertainty principle. When viewed through this formalism, the measurement of the wave function will randomly collapse, or rather decohere, to a sharply peaked function at some location. For particles with mass the likelihood of detecting the particle at any particular location is equal to the squared amplitude of the wave function there. The measurement will return a well-defined position, (subject to uncertainty), a property traditionally associated with particles. It is important to note that a measurement is only a particular type of interaction where some data is recorded and the measured quantity is forced into a particular eigenstate. The act of measurement is therefore not fundamentally different from any other interaction.' 'Following the development of quantum field theory the ambiguity disappeared. The field permits solutions that follow the wave equation, which are referred to as the wave functions. The term particle is used to label the irreducible representations of the Lorentz group that are permitted by the field. An interaction as in a Feynman diagram is accepted as a calculationally convenient approximation where the outgoing legs are known to be simplifications of the propagation and the internal lines are for some order in an expansion of the field interaction. Since the field is non-local and quantized, the phenomena which previously were thought of as paradoxes are explained. Within the limits of the wave-particle duality the quantum field theory gives the same results.' -- Saying the universe is based on consciousness is like trying to say the head side of a coin is based on the tail side. This results from the attempt to explain a single phenomenon in terms of a dualistic conceptual framework which splits the single phenomenon into apparently separate and seemingly incompatible phenomena which the mind is unable to reconcile logically. A scientist will accept the paradox as factual and admit he/she cannot understand it, while a cult-based mind will take one side of the paradox and promote it to the exclusion of the other. The universe and our awareness arise together. Without the universe, there is no knowledge of awareness; without awareness, there is no experience of the universe, and thus no knowledge that we exist is possible. Its both a and b, not just a or just b that lies under the hood. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I believe the universe is based on consciousness. Some of the recent scientific discoveries are hinting to this very possibility. For example, there is the famous double slit experiment of light beams which shows that light is both a wave and a particle at the same time. The corollary to this experiment is even more astonishing in that this duality can be affected by an observer. If the light photons are counted and observed by a human being, the light that goes through the slits always become particles as shown by the pattern on the background screen. If the counter is turned off, the light that goes through the slits show its wave form on the background screen. There was an additional experiment to show the odd property of light. This time the scientists recorded the information gathered from the same experiment. However, they erased the information relating to the counter without looking at the information recorded for the background screen. Ideally, the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : There is a trail in the header which may disclose the IP address where the email came even if it is no_reply but it is often very general. Even my IP address is for a location some 35 miles from here because that's where my ISP maintains their leases. Gets worse in Europe where the ISP may maintain the leases in another country. The one I found in my source data is quite close to where I live, damned if I can find it today though, must be there somewhere. Maybe they changed the routing from Yahoo? There's a lot from a private source which is a new thing. Maybe the NSA are diverting our posts because of our political ideas or because we are close to the truth about crop circles. Good luck to them... I also seem to notice that U-Verse is using static IPs as my IP hasn't changed in over two years even shutting and restarting gateway which with regular DSL would often change the IP. I use a proxy server sometimes, I wonder how that comes out.. On 03/18/2015 06:40 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. Maybe our new friend will identify themselves before the suspense drives me to having another cup of tea. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. It's a koan, Xeno. We who are lesser-evolved than Jim (as he has told us SO many times) are supposed to ponder it until we become as enlightened as he is. :-) :-) :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Your X-Originating-IP for this message is actually different. And an earlier message showed a New England based IP. My originating IP when I'm using email is the one for the sbcglobal server. If I post from a browser it will be different and it may be different if I post from my smartphone. X-Yahoo-Profile: is the member account and what I used for the Python post count as it only lists by FFL membership and eliminated the different handles such that Willy would post under by grouping it all under the profile. That was easy to do on Python but not as easy with PHP though I figured it out but Alex didn't want to deal with a new PHP version. On 03/18/2015 11:00 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The X-Originating-IP only tells us where the message first arrived, it seems. As for koans, here is one: 'A nun who was searching for enlightenment made a statue of Buddha and covered it with gold leaf. Wherever she went she carried this golden Buddha with her. Years passed and, still carrying her Buddha, the nun came to live in a small temple in a country where there were many Buddhas, each one with its own particular shrine. The nun wished to burn incense before her golden Buddha. Not liking the idea of the perfume straying to the others, she devised a funnel through which the smoke would ascend only to her statue. This blackened the nose of the golden Buddha, making it especially ugly.' ak_ak X-Originating-IP: [98.136.219.129] Authentication-Results: mta1571.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=yahoogroups.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng10-vm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.129) *SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA* reverse_archery X-Originating-IP: [98.136.219.109] Authentication-Results: mta1142.mail.ne1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng9-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.109) *SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA* fleetwood_macandcheese X-Originating-IP: 98.238.201.121 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 98.238.201.121 From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [the_peak] the_p...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Profile: fleetwood_macncheese *SERVER LOCATION: PARADISE, CALIFORNIA* fleetwood_macandcheese X-Originating-IP: [98.139.165.7] Authentication-Results: mta1486.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng3-ip1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.7) by mta1486.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:38:10 + *SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA* anartaxius X-Originating-IP: [66.196.80.63] Authentication-Results: mta1458.mail.bf1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng25-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (66.196.80.63) *SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA* TurquoiseBee X-Originating-IP: [67.195.87.40] Authentication-Results: mta1560.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng25-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.87.40) by mta1560.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:43:45 + *SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA* *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. */It's a koan, Xeno. We who are lesser-evolved than Jim (as he has told us SO many times) are supposed to ponder it until we become as enlightened as he is. :-) :-) :-) /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
98.136.x.x are the Yahoo IPs so you can ignore those. The X-Originating-IP field would contain the IP address if it's there and probably only when sent via email. On 03/18/2015 09:21 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
The X-Originating-IP only tells us where the message first arrived, it seems.
As for koans, here is one:
'A nun who was searching for enlightenment made a statue of Buddha and covered
it with gold leaf. Wherever she went she carried this golden Buddha with
her.Years passed and, still carrying her Buddha, the nun came to live in a
small temple in a country where there were many Buddhas, each one with its own
particular shrine.The nun wished to burn incense before her golden Buddha. Not
liking the idea of the perfume straying to the others, she devised a funnel
through which the smoke would ascend only to her statue. This blackened the
nose of the golden Buddha, making it especially ugly.'
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From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything
Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is
kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the
reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in
order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did
interact.
It's a koan, Xeno. We who are lesser-evolved than Jim (as he has told us SO
many times) are supposed to ponder it until we become as enlightened as he is.
:-) :-) :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
You have had a difficult day? Gosh, what is meditation coming to? I am not holding Jim to any standard. I am just pointing out he said one thing, but did another. If I had the power to hold him to some standard, he would not be able to break his word. The fun is people are erratic. It means you can play with their foibles (or ignore them). The secret to keeping your word is to never give it. We are too spongy and soft to act like inerrantly like vengeful gods who can never be crossed, or else. There are those of us who try. Barry is actually pretty consistent this way. Ah, to create a hell that would truly terrify people into compliance with some stupid, stupid rule. Tax collectors and legislators and rulers of countries have a tendency to fall in this direction, as do religions. I did not intend to convict Jim, a simple lynching without justice would have sufficed. But that is just on FFL; on The Peak, he has installed himself as Chief Magistrate, top of the food chain, and there, I wonder whether some misstep of mine will coerce him to send me to the outer void someday. But on FFL, he is just another piece of prey in the jungle, like the rest of us. FFL is like the world, and The Peak is like TM. You can go to The Peak to rest (an old folks home for the spiritually timid), and when you want to evolve, you need a bit of resistance, so you can come over here to FFL, for exercise, to put it into action. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has been an otherwise difficult day. Second, I certainly can't argue with you. On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space. In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry. In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple yes, or no. But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case, which may make quite a difference. I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict standard, or definition of interaction when, really, that's not how the real world works, except in legal contracts. And even then, there can be different interpretations. So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a misconception. Whether his buttons were pushed, I have no idea. I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, it wasn't me, Barry, and have a good day If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing
[FairfieldLife] The endless war.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Well, well, well.
Anonymous posts don't have an X-Originating header. They have an X-Yahoo-Post-EncIP:header, which is probably the originating IP address in encrypted form, such that Yahoo could produce the originating IP if legally compelled to do so. Here is ak_ak's header: Return-Path: no_re...@yahoogroups.com X-Apparently-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29991 invoked by uid 102); 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: (qmail 20358 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from unknown (HELO n2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.170.167) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from [66.196.81.178] by n2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from [10.193.75.127] by t8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - Date: 17 Mar 2015 15:41:14 -0700 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: meaaia+147q...@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 References: me91er+vb...@yahoogroups.com 834839579.442659.1426591525130.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com mea8fs+147e...@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: mea8fs+147e...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Reply-To: no_re...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Post-EncIP: vHSxQG9-41yVGDwvNnmRbUWL2yLsgdxpYRTaeAxdvoxydfWXcQ Subject: Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=567158126; y=4G9Oe1ptG3WYv8tx1UQQlH9iK-bRz2FU6Dv3pg6so01gDiotW0iSTA; email=no X-Yahoo-Profile: ak_ak_0828 From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : 98.136.x.x are the Yahoo IPs so you can ignore those. The X-Originating-IP field would contain the IP address if it's there and probably only when sent via email. On 03/18/2015 09:21 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We the First Cause?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The author of this article states it is so. But he appears to be clueless to the idea that consciousness is the basis of the universe and reality. He also states that we may be alone in the universe. What do you think? Actually John, he states that consciousness is the reason for the universe.: Loaded dice? It all makes sense if you assume it's us, the observer, who create space and time. Luckily for everything else we know about where we live this idea makes no sense and is based on a few misunderstood quotes from early quantum physicists. Think about it, if we create the universe what were we before the universe existed? Nothing that looks like having happened that's what. Why the Earth Will Never Be Invaded http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/why-the-earth-will-never-be-invaded_b_6879216.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/why-the-earth-will-never-be-invaded_b_6879216.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Why the Earth Will Never Be Invaded http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/why-the-earth-will-never-be-invaded_b_6879216.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Cosmologists propose that the universe was until recently a lifeless collection of particles. But they have ignored a critical component of the cosmos because they ... View on www.huffingtonpost... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/why-the-earth-will-never-be-invaded_b_6879216.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry, Don't embarrass me please, I wish to remain anonymous. Unlike you I am *actually* busy and have a life, I have to work, take care of kids, wives, ex-wives and girl friends. And of course entertain them :-) :-) :-). I don't have amazing talents like you where you conjure up these amazing, fantastical tales that has your audience here at FFL in raptures. The flamboyant, charismatic Barry Wright, cult slayer, darling of the lurker reporters looking for scoops on cults and TM. The stud, fondling hot, young baristas in coffe-shops; and in dance clubs and whorehouse around Amsterdam and Paris. The wise old spiritual master - Uncle Tantra. Man of many hats, you :-) :-) :-) All this as you actually are a decrepit old man, narcissistic, dysfunctional. Spending your entire day in your apartment, taking care of Maya, dogs, chores so you can have free rent and food ! Brilliant talent Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
[FairfieldLife] My first rock concert
The first rock concert I went to was to see Free when their hit All Right Now topped the charts. So it is a sign of how long ago that was that I learn that bassist Andy Fraser, who co-wrote Free's hit, has died in California aged 62. The musician died on Monday and he had been fighting cancer and Aids, according to an official statement regarding his death. The song itself still stands the test of time . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydItRbb0b1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydItRbb0b1E
Re: [FairfieldLife] My first rock concert
Ha! Got that beat. My first concert was non other than The Beatles. I
don't remember the year, must have been about '65 in the Houston Coliseum. They
did some songs from Help before the movie had been released.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] My first rock concert
The first rock concert I went to was to see Free when their hit All Right
Now topped the charts. So it is a sign of how long ago that was that I learn
that bassist Andy Fraser, who co-wrote Free's hit, has died in California aged
62. The musician died on Monday and he had been fighting cancer and Aids,
according to an official statement regarding his death. The song itself still
stands the test of time . . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydItRbb0b1E
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[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 19-Mar-15 00:15:03 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 03/14/15 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 03/21/15 00:00:00 275 messages as of (UTC) 03/18/15 23:59:05 37 richard 36 Michael Jackson mjackson74 35 salyavin808 31 steve.sundur 31 Bhairitu noozguru 27 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 14 anartaxius 12 jr_esq 7 dhamiltony2k5 7 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 6 s3raphita 4 srijau 4 LEnglish5 3 ultrarishi 3 j_alexander_stanley 3 William Leed WLeed3 2 feste37 2 eustace10679 2 emptybill 2 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius 1 reverse_archery 1 emily.mae50 1 email4you mikemail4you 1 ak_ak_0828 1 Share Long sharelong60 1 Martin A Rosenthal rozenthalm 1 'Rick Archer' rick Posters: 27 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: The endless war.
Outstanding cartoon! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
yep, its Dr. Dummy
From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry,
Don't embarrass me please, I wish to remain anonymous. Unlike you I am
*actually* busy and have a life, I have to work, take care of kids, wives,
ex-wives and girl friends. And of course entertain them :-) :-) :-).
I don't have amazing talents like you where you conjure up these amazing,
fantastical tales that has your audience here at FFL in raptures. The
flamboyant, charismatic Barry Wright, cult slayer, darling of the lurker
reporters looking for scoops on cults and TM. The stud, fondling hot, young
baristas in coffe-shops; and in dance clubs and whorehouse around Amsterdam and
Paris. The wise old spiritual master - Uncle Tantra. Man of many hats, you :-)
:-) :-)
All this as you actually are a decrepit old man, narcissistic, dysfunctional.
Spending your entire day in your apartment, taking care of Maya, dogs, chores
so you can have free rent and food ! Brilliant talent Barry.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if
I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus
reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having
been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post
here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I
expected him to do. :-) :-) :-)
It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was
written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so
unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have
a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me
Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-)
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email
address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the
header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything
about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your
own FFL identity as well.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
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[FairfieldLife] Ever decreasing circles
In my local Starbucks this evening I asked one of the staff where one of the regular customers had gone. Peter - a Scot who was there almost every night - was always very boisterous and friendly so his absence was noticeable. I was expecting to be told that he had decided to move back to Edinburgh. Instead I learned that he'd killed himself by throwing himself in front of a train at Ealing Broadway station (right next door to the Starbucks). Naturally enough I was thunderstruck. You then start to think if you had been as welcoming to him as maybe you should have been. We all owe each other a certain acknowledgment and respect and I was thinking back to my own nodded greetings and occasional exchanges with Peter and judging that perhaps I'd fallen short of giving him his due. R.I.P. Anyway, there was a staff member I'd noticed who always struck me as being a bright young chap. I thought that maybe he was one of those over-qualified graduates one reads about who are so desperate for work experience that cleaning up at a coffee shop has people queuing up around the block whenever a vacancy arises. Tonight I'd been sitting there reading Sam Harris's Waking Up (many thanks to those FFLifers who recommended the title - I'd probably not have bought it without your thumbs up). This staffer said to me that it seemed an interesting topic - Spirituality without Religion. What was it about? So I summed it up by saying that Sam Harris was hostile to religion - and I mean really hostile - but he approved of meditation and wanted to encourage its use while ditching all the metaphysical baggage. My staffer then responded by saying that he never read books. I tell you that his reply was more shocking to me than the news of Peter's suicide. It really hit me that someone who never reads books must have an overall view of life utterly remote from my own. How can an obviously bright and personable young man have gone through our educational system and ended up deciding that books have nothing worthwhile for him? Imagine what it must be like to have your worldview formed by television, the internet and your friends' chat. What a confined space you must live in.
Re: [FairfieldLife] My first rock concert
Re My first concert was non other than The Beatles: You've earned bragging rights in this contest! A work colleague went to see the relatively unknown Beatles back in early 1964 and walked out as they were so uninspiring. She's been kicking herself ever since. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha! Got that beat. My first concert was non other than The Beatles. I don't remember the year, must have been about '65 in the Houston Coliseum. They did some songs from Help before the movie had been released. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] My first rock concert The first rock concert I went to was to see Free when their hit All Right Now topped the charts. So it is a sign of how long ago that was that I learn that bassist Andy Fraser, who co-wrote Free's hit, has died in California aged 62. The musician died on Monday and he had been fighting cancer and Aids, according to an official statement regarding his death. The song itself still stands the test of time . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydItRbb0b1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydItRbb0b1E
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Just to follow up on this. Yes, xeno, you can still have difficult days, even if you practice TM, which I try to do once a day. Perhaps you struggle under the assumption, as some others here do, that TM should solve all problems. I am afraid to inform you that it does not. However, you may be heartened to learn, that the practice may give you a clearer, and more settled state of mind, such that you can deal with difficult situations in a more balanced way. Please let me know if you'd like me to elaborate, and I will be glad to do so. I'm here for ya. As for Jim's role at the peak, I believe you are a regular contributor there, and I don't recall that you have run afoul of any rules, written or unwritten. You may praise FFL, but I would say the worthwhile content has gone down to about 5% from maybe a peak of 20%. The trend does not look promising, IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : You have had a difficult day? Gosh, what is meditation coming to? I am not holding Jim to any standard. I am just pointing out he said one thing, but did another. If I had the power to hold him to some standard, he would not be able to break his word. The fun is people are erratic. It means you can play with their foibles (or ignore them). The secret to keeping your word is to never give it. We are too spongy and soft to act like inerrantly like vengeful gods who can never be crossed, or else. There are those of us who try. Barry is actually pretty consistent this way. Ah, to create a hell that would truly terrify people into compliance with some stupid, stupid rule. Tax collectors and legislators and rulers of countries have a tendency to fall in this direction, as do religions. I did not intend to convict Jim, a simple lynching without justice would have sufficed. But that is just on FFL; on The Peak, he has installed himself as Chief Magistrate, top of the food chain, and there, I wonder whether some misstep of mine will coerce him to send me to the outer void someday. But on FFL, he is just another piece of prey in the jungle, like the rest of us. FFL is like the world, and The Peak is like TM. You can go to The Peak to rest (an old folks home for the spiritually timid), and when you want to evolve, you need a bit of resistance, so you can come over here to FFL, for exercise, to put it into action. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has been an otherwise difficult day. Second, I certainly can't argue with you. On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space. In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry. In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple yes, or no. But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case, which may make quite a difference. I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict standard, or definition of interaction when, really, that's not how the real world works, except in legal contracts. And even then, there can be different interpretations. So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a misconception. Whether his buttons were pushed, I have no idea. I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, it wasn't me, Barry, and have a good day If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In
[FairfieldLife] Mahamritunjaya mantra, by Hein Braat
Enchanting; Mahamrityunjaya Mantra (Hinduism) Mantra singer Hein Braat Medicine Buddha's Mantra (Buddhism) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10A8wKlGAs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10A8wKlGAs Mahamrityunjaya Mantra (Hinduism) Mantra singer He... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10A8wKlGAs Mahamrityunjaya Mantra (Hinduism) Medicine Buddha's Mantra (Buddhism) Mantra singer: Hein Braat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahamrityu... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10A8wKlGAs Preview by Yahoo On another topic, you may have heard that the Pope elevated 20 more people to Cardinal status. Question: Are any of these new Cardinals FFL members? . Also - very important: How many pants suits does Hillary have and where does she keep them? Which is her favorite color?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever decreasing circles
S3raphita, Really nice post. I am sorry for you over the loss of your Scot there. That is real, I know. I have a friend here who observes about the TM movement here but life generally too that all its problems and solutions are rooted in the first three sutras of the Patanjali TM-Sidhis: Friendliness, Compassion and Happiness. I feel there is some lot of truth to that in life and the TM movement too. Friendliness, Compassion and Happiness have field effects in nature that can consciously be extended. A friend here who traveled and wrote the MIU catalog with Maharishi, he noted in a story that once when he was dealing with a TM teacher who was at variance with the movement Maharishi counseled this guy to be 'friendly' with the recalcitrant, take the person out to dinner several times and be 'happy' with him. Of course they don't really do that now, they pretty much are holed up now and have communications read over the phone. But Maharishi was urging some initiative and mingling in taking care. Sort of like Mao in urging the sharing of 'weal and woe' for effective administration in his early revolution. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/qAs9ROcD8Ro https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/qAs9ROcD8Ro But spiritually Maharishi then instructed in the end that this friend then ask the guy at variance if the variant was willing to take on the responsibility of the evolution of the people he was teaching otherwise? Taking care, it takes some work. Whoa. Om and by the way a bright spot now with children here, there seems a lot of 'lit' souls coming in to the planet now. It ain't over yet for the living. JaiGuruYou, -In Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : In my local Starbucks this evening I asked one of the staff where one of the regular customers had gone. Peter - a Scot who was there almost every night - was always very boisterous and friendly so his absence was noticeable. I was expecting to be told that he had decided to move back to Edinburgh. Instead I learned that he'd killed himself by throwing himself in front of a train at Ealing Broadway station (right next door to the Starbucks). Naturally enough I was thunderstruck. You then start to think if you had been as welcoming to him as maybe you should have been. We all owe each other a certain acknowledgment and respect and I was thinking back to my own nodded greetings and occasional exchanges with Peter and judging that perhaps I'd fallen short of giving him his due. R.I.P. Anyway, there was a staff member I'd noticed who always struck me as being a bright young chap. I thought that maybe he was one of those over-qualified graduates one reads about who are so desperate for work experience that cleaning up at a coffee shop has people queuing up around the block whenever a vacancy arises. Tonight I'd been sitting there reading Sam Harris's Waking Up (many thanks to those FFLifers who recommended the title - I'd probably not have bought it without your thumbs up). This staffer said to me that it seemed an interesting topic - Spirituality without Religion. What was it about? So I summed it up by saying that Sam Harris was hostile to religion - and I mean really hostile - but he approved of meditation and wanted to encourage its use while ditching all the metaphysical baggage. My staffer then responded by saying that he never read books. I tell you that his reply was more shocking to me than the news of Peter's suicide. It really hit me that someone who never reads books must have an overall view of life utterly remote from my own. How can an obviously bright and personable young man have gone through our educational system and ended up deciding that books have nothing worthwhile for him? Imagine what it must be like to have your worldview formed by television, the internet and your friends' chat. What a confined space you must live in.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The endless war.
'What's this about my wealth trickling down to poor people?'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Dear ReVerseArrow; tonite they are giving Maharishi Awards in celebration to distinguished citizens of the larger community at the Spring Celebration on campus. I have a couple of friends in the community who are receiving Maharishi Awards tonite. I should think that you are deserving too of such recognition given both the breadth of your advanced state of 'number one' spiritual experience and your easy ability to speak and write to it by contrast of so much speculation that gets written on FFL. Yet, not only your resilience here in the coarse and malignant crossfire of FFL but yours as a straight arrow on target here amidsts the residual of FFL deserves recognition at the level of a Maharishi Award. Thank you. I appreciate your participation when it comes here. It seems always clarifying. I do feel the disrespect of a pernicious unkindness by the few that has overtaken FFL as that you endured here on Rick's list forcing you even to leave FFL on moral ground was reprehensible and Rick should have given you much more protection from it. But a recognition of your longer contribution to what was FFL should not go without acknowledgment. Thank you for your service. JaiGuruYou, -Buck in Fairfield ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it. Have a nice day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling
[FairfieldLife] For you film buffs out there: 2001 in 70 mm
This has absolutely nothing to do with any topic of late, but I am such a huge fan of film, 70mm film and 2001: a space odyssey. Now you know our plans for the weekend. BTW, they've sold out 4 performances and most like the 5th by the time the weekend is here. Films of Future Past http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/films-of-future-past/Content?oid=15208048 http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/films-of-future-past/Content?oid=15208048 Films of Future Past http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/films-of-future-past/Content?oid=15208048 With 2001: A Space Odyssey, the Hollywood Theatre brings 70mm back to Portland. View on www.portlandmercury.com http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/films-of-future-past/Content?oid=15208048 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
can you say, bulls-eye, on both counts? I think you can! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is not a joke MJ. Barry is hope for many, the losers of the world. People who don't have a successful career, people who haven't ever had a healthy relationship, people who live on the charity of others; they need not be in despair, they need not lose hope. They can look at Barry, and make something out of their cocooned, helpless lives. They can create fantastical tales, an online personas like a cult slayer, a successful IT professional, a movie reviewer and such, and, become a star of some Yahoo group just like Barry has. You of all people MJ, unbelievable; a single, southern trailer trash hilly billy, fixing computers for a living. Barry should be your hero, your idol, you should look up to Barry, venerate, worship him. Oh wait, never mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : yep, its Dr. Dummy From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry, Don't embarrass me please, I wish to remain anonymous. Unlike you I am *actually* busy and have a life, I have to work, take care of kids, wives, ex-wives and girl friends. And of course entertain them :-) :-) :-). I don't have amazing talents like you where you conjure up these amazing, fantastical tales that has your audience here at FFL in raptures. The flamboyant, charismatic Barry Wright, cult slayer, darling of the lurker reporters looking for scoops on cults and TM. The stud, fondling hot, young baristas in coffe-shops; and in dance clubs and whorehouse around Amsterdam and Paris. The wise old spiritual master - Uncle Tantra. Man of many hats, you :-) :-) :-) All this as you actually are a decrepit old man, narcissistic, dysfunctional. Spending your entire day in your apartment, taking care of Maya, dogs, chores so you can have free rent and food ! Brilliant talent Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
This is not a joke MJ. Barry is hope for many, the losers of the world. People who don't have a successful career, people who haven't ever had a healthy relationship, people who live on the charity of others; they need not be in despair, they need not lose hope. They can look at Barry, and make something out of their cocooned, helpless lives. They can create fantastical tales, an online personas like a cult slayer, a successful IT professional, a movie reviewer and such, and, become a star of some Yahoo group just like Barry has. You of all people MJ, unbelievable; a single, southern trailer trash hilly billy, fixing computers for a living. Barry should be your hero, your idol, you should look up to Barry, venerate, worship him. Oh wait, never mind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : yep, its Dr. Dummy From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry, Don't embarrass me please, I wish to remain anonymous. Unlike you I am *actually* busy and have a life, I have to work, take care of kids, wives, ex-wives and girl friends. And of course entertain them :-) :-) :-). I don't have amazing talents like you where you conjure up these amazing, fantastical tales that has your audience here at FFL in raptures. The flamboyant, charismatic Barry Wright, cult slayer, darling of the lurker reporters looking for scoops on cults and TM. The stud, fondling hot, young baristas in coffe-shops; and in dance clubs and whorehouse around Amsterdam and Paris. The wise old spiritual master - Uncle Tantra. Man of many hats, you :-) :-) :-) All this as you actually are a decrepit old man, narcissistic, dysfunctional. Spending your entire day in your apartment, taking care of Maya, dogs, chores so you can have free rent and food ! Brilliant talent Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
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I just sent a post by e-mail and it too had the Sunnyvale, California address [216.39.63.153]. I guess you would have to use a local ISP e-mail address to get a location closer to where one lived. I tried some other accounts where I used a POP client on my computer to send an e-mail to myself on another account rather than by webmail, not posting to FFL at all, and it still showed the Sunnyvale server because the email addresses were an arrangement between Yahoo and ATT. So far the only non Sunnyvale address was one e-mail Jim Flanegan sent to The Peak, which had a Paradise, California server. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : 98.136.x.x are the Yahoo IPs so you can ignore those. The X-Originating-IP field would contain the IP address if it's there and probably only when sent via email. On 03/18/2015 09:21 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has been an otherwise difficult day. Second, I certainly can't argue with you. On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space. In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry. In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple yes, or no. But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case, which may make quite a difference. I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict standard, or definition of interaction when, really, that's not how the real world works, except in legal contracts. And even then, there can be different interpretations. So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a misconception. Whether his buttons were pushed, I have no idea. I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, it wasn't me, Barry, and have a good day If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Barry, Really, is there anyone smarter than you? I know you imply it often enough, but it is heartening when you actually come out and admit it. Are we even worthy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, I don't know who ak_ak_0828 is, either. I just figured that if I suggested it was Jim Flanegin, his ego would force him to reply, and thus reveal to everyone how compulsively he still reads Fairfield Life after having been so vocal about how he's so above this forum and the people who post here. And lo and behold, in just a couple of hours he did exactly what I expected him to do. :-) :-) :-) It *wasn't* all that scathing a post, after all. To be honest, if it was written by anyone we already know, it most likely was Ann, because 1) it's so unintelligent, and 2) it's so completely off the mark. I just thought I'd have a little fun with it and use it to point how obsessed with both FFL *and* me Jim Flanegin still is. Mission accomplished. :-) :-) :-) From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
I live just over the border from New England. Sometimes I use a laptop on a public WiFi if I am in New England, usually Connecticut or Massachusetts. The nearest big shopping mall is in Danbury, Connecticut, and sales taxes are lower there than in New York State. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Your X-Originating-IP for this message is actually different. And an earlier message showed a New England based IP. My originating IP when I'm using email is the one for the sbcglobal server. If I post from a browser it will be different and it may be different if I post from my smartphone. X-Yahoo-Profile: is the member account and what I used for the Python post count as it only lists by FFL membership and eliminated the different handles such that Willy would post under by grouping it all under the profile. That was easy to do on Python but not as easy with PHP though I figured it out but Alex didn't want to deal with a new PHP version. On 03/18/2015 11:00 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The X-Originating-IP only tells us where the message first arrived, it seems. As for koans, here is one: 'A nun who was searching for enlightenment made a statue of Buddha and covered it with gold leaf. Wherever she went she carried this golden Buddha with her. Years passed and, still carrying her Buddha, the nun came to live in a small temple in a country where there were many Buddhas, each one with its own particular shrine. The nun wished to burn incense before her golden Buddha. Not liking the idea of the perfume straying to the others, she devised a funnel through which the smoke would ascend only to her statue. This blackened the nose of the golden Buddha, making it especially ugly.' ak_ak X-Originating-IP: [98.136.219.129] Authentication-Results: mta1571.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=yahoogroups.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng10-vm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.129) SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA reverse_archery X-Originating-IP: [98.136.219.109] Authentication-Results: mta1142.mail.ne1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng9-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (98.136.219.109) SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA fleetwood_macandcheese X-Originating-IP: 98.238.201.121 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 98.238.201.121 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [the_peak] mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...[the_peak] the_p...@yahoogroups.com mailto:the_p...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Profile: fleetwood_macncheese SERVER LOCATION: PARADISE, CALIFORNIA fleetwood_macandcheese X-Originating-IP: [98.139.165.7] Authentication-Results: mta1486.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng3-ip1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.165.7) by mta1486.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:38:10 + SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA anartaxius X-Originating-IP: [66.196.80.63] Authentication-Results: mta1458.mail.bf1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng25-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (66.196.80.63) SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA TurquoiseBee X-Originating-IP: [67.195.87.40] Authentication-Results: mta1560.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO ng25-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (67.195.87.40) by mta1560.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:43:45 + SERVER LOCATION: SUNNYVALE, CALIFORNIA From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. It's a koan, Xeno. We who are lesser-evolved than Jim (as he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well, well, well.
Yes, was going to mention that but then we were already way deep into header code for the majority here. Plus I wanted to verify that other no_reply post had that encrypted field but didn't have time. On 03/18/2015 11:59 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Anonymous posts don't have an X-Originating header. They have an X-Yahoo-Post-EncIP: header, which is probably the originating IP address in encrypted form, such that Yahoo could produce the originating IP if legally compelled to do so. Here is ak_ak's header: Return-Path: no_re...@yahoogroups.com X-Apparently-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29991 invoked by uid 102); 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from unknown (HELO mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.32) by m5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: (qmail 20358 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from unknown (HELO n2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.170.167) by mtaq1.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from [66.196.81.178] by n2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - X-Received: from [10.193.75.127] by t8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - Date: 17 Mar 2015 15:41:14 -0700 X-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by gapi5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:14 - To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: meaaia+147q...@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 References: me91er+vb...@yahoogroups.com 834839579.442659.1426591525130.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com mea8fs+147e...@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: mea8fs+147e...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Reply-To: no_re...@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Post-EncIP: vHSxQG9-41yVGDwvNnmRbUWL2yLsgdxpYRTaeAxdvoxydfWXcQ Subject: Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=567158126; y=4G9Oe1ptG3WYv8tx1UQQlH9iK-bRz2FU6Dv3pg6so01gDiotW0iSTA; email=no X-Yahoo-Profile: ak_ak_0828 From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : 98.136.x.x are the Yahoo IPs so you can ignore those. The X-Originating-IP field would contain the IP address if it's there and probably only when sent via email. On 03/18/2015 09:21 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. I miss Judy too. We need a Moriarty for our Holmes. Or is it the other way round?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
I don't think the Peak is analogous to TM unless you like to do program while riding around on various spaceships. There seems to be a lot of that sort of thing over that way. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world You have had a difficult day? Gosh, what is meditation coming to? I am not holding Jim to any standard. I am just pointing out he said one thing, but did another. If I had the power to hold him to some standard, he would not be able to break his word. The fun is people are erratic. It means you can play with their foibles (or ignore them). The secret to keeping your word is to never give it. We are too spongy and soft to act like inerrantly like vengeful gods who can never be crossed, or else. There are those of us who try. Barry is actually pretty consistent this way. Ah, to create a hell that would truly terrify people into compliance with some stupid, stupid rule. Tax collectors and legislators and rulers of countries have a tendency to fall in this direction, as do religions. I did not intend to convict Jim, a simple lynching without justice would have sufficed. But that is just on FFL; on The Peak, he has installed himself as Chief Magistrate, top of the food chain, and there, I wonder whether some misstep of mine will coerce him to send me to the outer void someday. But on FFL, he is just another piece of prey in the jungle, like the rest of us. FFL is like the world, and The Peak is like TM. You can go to The Peak to rest (an old folks home for the spiritually timid), and when you want to evolve, you need a bit of resistance, so you can come over here to FFL, for exercise, to put it into action. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has been an otherwise difficult day. Second, I certainly can't argue with you. On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space. In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry. In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple yes, or no. But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case, which may make quite a difference. I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict standard, or definition of interaction when, really, that's not how the real world works, except in legal contracts. And even then, there can be different interpretations. So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a misconception. Whether his buttons were pushed, I have no idea. I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, it wasn't me, Barry, and have a good day If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
I notice trends and am noticing the webiverse is becoming more snarky not just FFL. It's just a sign that things aren't going so well on this little blue planet near the sun. The problem is of course the status quo doesn't want to give up control. If they did maybe life would be better again. What to do? On 03/18/2015 12:35 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. I miss Judy too. We need a Moriarty for our Holmes. Or is it the other way round?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. With your permission, I'd like to call this Xeno's Paradox, this notion that it doesn't matter if one misrepresents something about another person simply for the purposes of pushing their buttons. I haven't quite figured that one out. In fact, I can see a lot trouble arising from that one, without scratching too deep. (-: , to see The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What IP addresses? People who show up with the no_re...@yahoogroups.com email address are anonymous, with email and IP addresses both undisclosed. From the header info, there is no way for me, Rick, or anyone else to determine anything about ak_ak's true identity. Keep in mind, Sal, that this also applies to your own FFL identity as well. Hmmm, I've done it before successfully. Even found my own local server. Maybe I'm wrong about this one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, those IP addresses sure give the game away! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I couldn't match the IP addresses in the ak_ak post header with anything Jim has sent, but I am about to have lunch, so I didn't try very hard. It is kind of interesting that Jim, directly addressing Barry using the reverse_archery handle says he meant never to interact with Barry again, but in order to send the message directly addressed to Barry in the post, he did interact. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We the First Cause?
Salyavin, I think the author is talking nonsense. Yes, more likely he has misinterpreted the statements by scientists regarding the role of the observer in science experiments. It is unreasonable to think that we created the universe, as he says. Was he there before the Big Bang? He probably needs to explain why he's making this grandiose statement with seemingly firm authority.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Thanks for sharing your perspective. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : You have had a difficult day? Gosh, what is meditation coming to? I am not holding Jim to any standard. I am just pointing out he said one thing, but did another. If I had the power to hold him to some standard, he would not be able to break his word. The fun is people are erratic. It means you can play with their foibles (or ignore them). The secret to keeping your word is to never give it. We are too spongy and soft to act like inerrantly like vengeful gods who can never be crossed, or else. There are those of us who try. Barry is actually pretty consistent this way. Ah, to create a hell that would truly terrify people into compliance with some stupid, stupid rule. Tax collectors and legislators and rulers of countries have a tendency to fall in this direction, as do religions. I did not intend to convict Jim, a simple lynching without justice would have sufficed. But that is just on FFL; on The Peak, he has installed himself as Chief Magistrate, top of the food chain, and there, I wonder whether some misstep of mine will coerce him to send me to the outer void someday. But on FFL, he is just another piece of prey in the jungle, like the rest of us. FFL is like the world, and The Peak is like TM. You can go to The Peak to rest (an old folks home for the spiritually timid), and when you want to evolve, you need a bit of resistance, so you can come over here to FFL, for exercise, to put it into action. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world First, thank you xeno for giving a me a smile and a chuckle in what has been an otherwise difficult day. Second, I certainly can't argue with you. On the other hand, (and maybe I'm not able to give you comments sufficient thought), the world operates better when we give one another a little space. In the current example, yes, Jim did interact with Barry. In a court of law, sometimes the lawyer will demand a simple yes, or no. But, without an explanation, you can't really get to the nuances of a case, which may make quite a difference. I find it rather comical that you would seem to hold Jim to this strict standard, or definition of interaction when, really, that's not how the real world works, except in legal contracts. And even then, there can be different interpretations. So, I find it perfectly acceptable that Jim would see fit to correct a misconception. Whether his buttons were pushed, I have no idea. I really wouldn't think so. It seemed that all he wanted to say was, it wasn't me, Barry, and have a good day If you want to convict him on this basis, have at it. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : As I pointed out in another post awhile back, being accused of something one did not do has a tendency to push peoples buttons. It does not matter if the misconception was deliberate or not. The main thing is if you say one thing and do another, it's hypocritical. A rule has an exception if, 1) it's not a rule. Humans are too weak to create authentic rules. What we conceive as being laws of nature (not the TMO kind) might be ironclad enough to be called a rule, like how gravity operates. What is the rule that you follow in writing posts with short sentences spaced apart. What are you typing on? There are such things as paragraphs. When you are in a nice mood, you follow the spirit of the law, and when not, you just hang the bastard, innocent or guilty. How can you correct a misconception one has without interacting with them? INTERACT = act in such a way as to have an effect on another. You cannot have that effect if you do not make contact, you are trying to redefine a word just like Judy did. I really miss Judy. She made this place a hell worthy of interaction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, fyi, to the rest of the world, what Jim did was just correct a misconception. for you and Barry, and perhaps a few others to interpret this as interacting with Barry makes for a rather weak case. maybe you are trying to run the routine you did with Judy, on which she bit so hard. that was rather comical. but, then again, perhaps you don't understand that exceptions are made for any rule, self imposed, or not. so, just to repeat, correcting an misconception, is not the same as interacting with someone. get a consensus, if you have a question about this. or take a step back and realize there is the letter of intent, and the spirit of intent. this distinction is a cornerstone of our legal system, btw. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are We the First Cause?
Xeno, I believe the universe is based on consciousness. Some of the recent scientific discoveries are hinting to this very possibility. For example, there is the famous double slit experiment of light beams which shows that light is both a wave and a particle at the same time. The corollary to this experiment is even more astonishing in that this duality can be affected by an observer. If the light photons are counted and observed by a human being, the light that goes through the slits always become particles as shown by the pattern on the background screen. If the counter is turned off, the light that goes through the slits show its wave form on the background screen. There was an additional experiment to show the odd property of light. This time the scientists recorded the information gathered from the same experiment. However, they erased the information relating to the counter without looking at the information recorded for the background screen. Ideally, the recorded information should have shown the particle signature on the background screen. But that was not the case. Instead, the recorded information showed the wave signature on the background screen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Is the author in saying we are the 'first cause' saying anything different from saying 'consciousness is the basis of the universe and reality'? A materialist would say consciousness is an emergent property of evolution, while an idealist would say the reverse, that the material world is dependent on mind or on consciousness. But all we really know, in the absence of evidence, is that consciousness is coincident with all our experience, that it is inseparable from any possible experience we could have. That does not allow us to choose between one or other of these two alternatives. We never know anything without the world that gives us a mind that can think and reason about it, and we can never know the world without consciousness, it is all inseparable, these divisions into physicality and spirituality are conceptual mappings of the mind, they are far more arbitrary than is usually realised; they are artificial divisions in an interconnected whole. So the spiritual folk are clueless about the scientific view of reality, while the scientists are clueless about the reverse, and there is no way to pick one version or the other either on the basis of experience or on the basis of evidence. Unity only shows you that consciousness and matter are inseparable as a timeless experience, and because the experience is timeless, it tells you nothing about sequence, or beginnings and endings, and so cannot tell you whether matter or consciousness came first. Science gives us an idea of how things are, while spirituality gives us a sense of why, but it is a wordless answer, one that cannot be translated into speech. The distances and barriers to travel in the universe are quite profound; so far we know really nothing of the possible kinds of travel that would surmount those barriers. The stuff of science fiction, such a warp drives, wormhole travel, are undiscovered. Travelling near the speed of light is lethal due to effects of radiation. Life spans of biological organisms, so far as we know, is very short compared to travelling slowly across the cosmos. As a species ourselves we seem close to destroying ourselves by various methods of our own devising. Maybe other organisms on other worlds, should they exist, are equally incompetent, and thus we have no knowledge of them nor they of us. We do not know yet whether an ecosystem on another world would have any compatibility with our biological systems. That is, whether another world, if it had life, could be lived on without first razing the world of its living things and replacing them with our own. The same would go for an alien civilisation looking to colonise Earth. It seems possible now to find planets easily enough within the local neighbourhood, but getting to these worlds is a significant challenge, it would take many, many human lifetimes with our current knowledge (about 20,000 years to get to the nearest star, which may have one Earth-sized planet, with a surface temperature of 1200°C). We need more knowledge of life. The best bets now would be to find that information (which may not exist) on Mars, Europa, Callisto, Ganymede, and Enceladus, places we can get to fairly easily because they are within a billion miles of Earth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The author of this article states it is so. But he appears to be clueless to the idea that consciousness is the basis of the universe and reality. He also states that we may be alone in the universe. What do you think? Why the Earth Will Never Be Invaded
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hava Nagila, Hav 2 Nagila, Hav 3 Nagila, take 4 they're small
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sad day for Israel. Benny is nutcase. Bet the election was rigged. Sad day for the original inhabitants who had their country stolen by immigrants and perpetuated by the free west so they could have an outpost in the middle east. I would say the election was rigged by the fear of giving Palestinians a democratic say in what happens to them. More than half of people in Israel weren't allowed to vote because of their religion. Some democracy... On 03/17/2015 04:24 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Netanyahu declares victory.
