Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness
Well,somebody had to do it. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date:04/13/2015 9:23 AM (GMT-06:00) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness Thanks Mike, for changing the subject - awareness, consciousness and stillness seem to be complicated for some of the other informants. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ten generations back, Ambrose Dixon came to James Virginia, about 1640. Roger Williams, my infamous ancestor, was born in England, where he had graduated from Cambridge, and he had become a cleric in the Church of England. According to what I've read, Roger Williams founded Rhode Island and the Baptist Church and became its first citizen and pastor. He had become a respected minister at Salem, Massachusetts, and for a short time became a Fundamentalist, and then announced that, like the Pilgrims, he was in fact a Separatist, urging a complete separation between Church and State. It is further recorded that he endorsed full religious toleration. Due to Roger's outspoken views concerning these and other matters, he was deported back to England, but before he was chained up ...he fled into the wilderness to live with the Indians. He founded Providence Plantation in 1636. So much for the facts. If anything, the truth is exactly the opposite. Roger Williams was likely one of the most intolerant men ever to set foot in this country. He held to an extreme separatism which led him eventually to renounce every Christian church in the world as apostate. Go figure. He left London England, seeking religious freedom because he was a Quaker. He later left Virginia because he and his Quaker brothers felt discriminated against and resettled in Maryland where Lord Baltimore granted him land and refuge. Somewhere down the line, the Dixons joined Church of Christ in Kentucky. I guess I'm the first generation to return to seeking the Kingdom within via transcendental awareness. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness I was up in Rochester, Mn. last week and looked to see if there was a group meditation there. The Quakers there are old-style Hicksite Friends simply sitting in awareness as no-mantra-no-thought stillness. Like the Fairfield Quaker meeting is deeply transcendent meditative that way. Transcendent, really a good activated field effect of pure consciousness without the cultural veneer of TM . Who We Are Who We Are We welcome you to our meeting for worship in the confident expectation that both members and visitors will benefit from a mutual search for the truth which ... View on www.quakercloud.org Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Empty, Awareness, pure consciousness. The list of 'correct meditation' in the teaching also includes “no-mantra, no thought”. Stillness. Though technically you are right that thinking the mantra is not implicitly transcendental consciousness, it is just consciousness as you've defined it by reference. Though as one gets really good at sitting with stillness then this transcendental meditative consciousness becomes vipassanaic-like in practice. Stillness and even watching thoughts emerge. The real TM tru-believer on hearing that would be horrified though asserting that as mindfulness, as in sitting still is comtemplative and or concentrative if you sit with it and hence no good by TM standard. ..As our TM Alpha EEG studies demonstrate that TM is superior. Come back to the mantra! Come back! Re-introduce the mantra and all costs! Faintly. Easily. Don't just sit there! However, I feel you are on to something in experience with your analysis of this. Sit with it some more. JaiGuruYou, -Buck in Meditative Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : About Consciousness versus Awareness: One of the characteristics of TM teachings has always been the conflation of two terms - consciousness and awareness. The result is that we liberally use the term “pure consciousness” or occasionally “pure awareness” in our tm-speak. These terms are ways that we conceptually identify a reality that is neither waking, dreaming or sleeping. Usually we call it “the forth state” or “transcendental consciousness”. Supposedly, this terminology describes an “experience” of “transcendental consciousness”. It is described as 1.) remaining “awake inside in a state where knower, knowing and known object are united”. Another way of describing it is 2.) “dissolving the process of experience into the experiencer –thus leaving the experiencer awake and alone within
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
It's a Potemkin village all the way down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You've got it all wrong, we don't happen to the world, the world happens to us. :-D On 04/13/2015 09:12 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Fuck Lynch. In any other Yuga but Kali, the guy'd put to death on the spot. The TMO almost got Russel Brand. But he's too smart. I'm thinking the TMO might get lucky with another hot rock band or whatever. Suckers born every minute etc. Without a figure head to allure, though, there's small chance of getting someone into deep believer-hood. Maharishi says just don't gots the whallop anymore, cuz: HE'S DEAD. Who's going to give even a dime to grungy Girish? Not Bill Gates. Maybe a Russel type, but not a serious-ass business type. 16% reduced use of oxygen charts just are bullshit to the ultra-rich -- they're rich and beloved of God OBVIOUSLY, so a guru offering an in with God is a much lesser offer to them than it would be to a poor person. Believe it: they're already enjoying life as if God was their personal concierge. David Lynch got himself grabbed by the ego, and, hey, given his films' darknesses, sure seems like a proper karma for him to be victimized. Think of the shit he's put into all our minds with his tales of such fucked up personalities -- film after film with everything being done with a vile twist. THAT'S REAL NEGATIVITY DELIVERED TO THE WORLD. Real harm. Yeah, I said it. Real harm. When you put out that much PURE SHIT into the brains of millions, what are the chances that some folks in the audience are just on the cusp of acting out, and then a Lynch film puts someone past the tipping point? To most folks, that's a silly question. Nope. We're all affecting each other -- just some of us got the mojo to smack a whole-lotta minds in one go, and that responsibility is being met by EVIL DISREGARD for the sanctity of the mindset of the masses. Lynch is sick minded. End of story. Heh, R.Crumb would be a better celebrity for us. Just sayin'.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
also a large format book entitled, Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment (1975). These three volumes taken together give a good snapshot of the Transcendental Meditation movement at that time up to the mid-1970's. For context, this third book has the following quotes: “As a result of scientific research conducted during the past decade(s) on Transcendental Meditation, the practical aspect of the Science of Creative Intelligence, at more than two hundred universities and research institutes in different countries, including Germany, England, Canada, United States, Holland, India, South Africa, and Australia, involving the trends of life of about eleven hundred million people in the vicinity of eleven hundred World Plan centres in over eighty-nine countries on all continents, as endorsed and proclaimed by legislators, governors, mayors, educators, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, organizations, and individuals, and as a result of his successful world-wide activities, His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the Science of Creative Intelligence, through the window of science, saw the coming dawn of the Age of Enlightenment and inaugurated it for the whole world in Switzerland on 12 January 1975” Text transcribed from the 1975 book: “. .Through the window of Science we see the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. Good time for the world is coming. Now, a few people in any country will be able to change the destiny of their nation for all good. One percent of the population will be sufficient to design the direction of time for all happiness, progress, and fulfillment everywhere. I see the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. In this scientific age, it is no longer necessary for any nation to continue living with problems. This is the time of the dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. I am only giving expression to the phenomenon that is taking place. One percent of the people in any country can herald the dawn of a new age for the whole nation by devoting only fifteen minutes of their time twice a day. With such a little demand for such a great offer it is not conceivable that the world will go any longer in the footsteps of suffering. It is in the hands of a few individuals in every country today to change the direction of time and guide the destiny of their nation for all harmony, happiness, and progress. It is my joy to invite everyone to come in the light of the knowledge and experience that the Science of Creative Intelligence provides and enjoy participating in this global awakening to herald the Age of Enlightenment. -Maharishi 12 January 1975 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Memo: Accompanying this are two volumes, Celebrating the Dawn (1976) and Creating Ideal Society (1976) on Transcendental Meditation. These relate particularly to a transition in the activities of the larger TM movement that was taking place in the mid and late 1970's that are the precursor of themes in TM activism in the 1980's and beyond. From Maharishi's arrival in the West in the later 1950's TM as a developing organized movement in those times during the 1960's and 1970's was primary focused on teaching meditation to individuals also based then on the scientific research on meditation accruing up to the early 1970's. By the mid-1970's the TM organization transitioned over towards facilitating groups of individuals in to groups for communal practice of meditation as a form of direct-action for creating a better world. That change of theme then became a common core theme to many of Maharishi's activities from that time up until the end of his life in 2008. In gathering source publications I am seeing that the earlier 1970's were different from the late 1970's, the 1980's and to the present. The theoretical framework of the TM movement became re-formatted and re-enforced by the scientific research then being performed on meditation which drove policy implications for the organization of the TM movement from that period. For instance, Paper 98 in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers, Volume 1 provides a good insight in to an impetus of the re-alignment of priority for the TM movement from then. The period of the mid 1970's was then a time where more developed [revolutionary and millenarian] themes and subsequent campaigns came about within TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : By e-mail: “The main phenomenon I would point to regarding this is that culturally we promote practices that create an uncomfortable or hostile environment for people who are seekers, critical thinkers, and more developmentally mature. These individuals receive negative reinforcement from the community to the extent that they believe they don't belong in the movement whereas the individuals that are more
[FairfieldLife] Going Clear Director
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Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
I was talking to a well-placed governor a few years ago, and the concern he expressed was in the old days, people just wanted to hang out around Maharishi, but now of course that is impossible, and people have a different attitude toward both learning and going on courses because the draw of an alleged 'master' is nowhere in sight. Also even getting existing practitioners on courses needs some new impetus because it has to be practical, convenient and affordable for them to go on courses. A lot of facilities have been shut down, and renting places can be expensive locally. For example, opening a TM center these days requires it face a certain direction, and finding real estate that meets just this simple requirement is rather difficult. Also as far as knowledge, there is nothing really new in the offerings, though there seem to be some techniques His Appointed Royalness Tony is giving out to long time teachers on special courses. There are these 'Experience of Self' courses at MUM, but everybody experiences this every day anyway, even if they do not realise it. It is basically the same old thing with new dressing. TM's real problem is it is heavily invested in beginning a spiritual trek, but does not have the chops to effectively take it to completion which is why so many people drift off to other teachings or give up. I hear it is difficult getting new teachers because M is not there, they are very concerned about it as a career, how they will support themselves etc., the enthusiasm about being around M is not the driving factor any more, so a realistic business model as a profession looms in people's mind now. Basically any spiritual philosophy has certain ideas that are discussed and certain techniques that are practised and over time something happens or does not. Standing out from the crowd with this kind of thing seems to be getting more difficult as more or less generic versions of techniques are proffered in the marketplace. The main problem as I see it is the TM organisation is boxed in with a set of specific beliefs and guidelines that actively prevent them from looking at more possibilities. The tithing/donation model which works for religions who have been able to brainwash their flock is more difficult for TM because it has to pretend it has no religious associations, but the DLF is basically working on this model, and just how that will pan out when he goes is unknown. If TM manages to maintain some respectable amount of initiations, there will always be a few celebrities that will fall into the net, but whether the glow around them is enough is another matter. TM has not managed to get really established as a major brand on its own; so far it seems to have always depended on some kind of exposure based on the celebrity status of someone, like Maharishi, Merv Griffin, The Beach Boys, Beatles, etc., which is not a very stable model, particularly because celebrities' foibles are far more likely to become public and screw the image being created (recall Mr Collins recently). Also, as a person practices a technique, over time, the initial enthusiasm a person has is likely to diminish over time. For example, recently the Beatles and Clint Eastwood, while they have lent some support to the DLF projects, they do not appear to be particularly enthusiastic about it. Celebrities often do this if it does not involve a lot of time and energy if the project seems reasonable. But these people can't offer what the people seeking relief from their problems need, they are just window dressing. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ Something I think the TMO should be thinking about for the future -- were the TM movement given to thinking about the real-world (as opposed to fantasy) future -- is What are we going to do when the existing pool of celebrity TMers runs dry? What's that mean for our sales model? This pool of celebs WILL, after all, run dry. There aren't going to be any NEW celebrity TMers. There is no mechanism for raising them properly. David Lynch was one of the last who was raised in the ashram model of being taught to revere the guru from afar, and then finally being offered the opportunity to meet him in person, even if it cost him a million dollars. So he got to meet Maharishi, got to get MMY to focus on him, and even got his blessing-from-afar as he went out and worked to sell his products and fulfill his dreams. That path clearly *worked* to turn Lynch into a True Believer, and a lifer. But that path is no longer open to the TMO. There ain't no guru to introduce future celebrities to. What? You think they're gonna pay big bucks to meet King Tony? Or Bevan? Or Hagelin? Get real. Maharishi was
Re: FUCK YOU -- YOU LYING FUCK, WILLY. Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
You had one single job to do, yet you failed to reach enlightenment in 5 - 7 years, and then you did not produce a single enlightened individual in over 30 years of teaching. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FUCK YOU -- YOU LYING FUCK, WILLY. Non sequitur. Never was kicked out of the movement. Left it mindfully. You did what you could to help your guru and get the cult started. You tried to turn a simple relaxation technique into a religion with the Maharishi as your God. So, you got upset when we didn't buy into it - get over it. You can learn a lot from the family dog: No matter what life brings you, just kick some grass over that shit and move on. .
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[FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time
than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/ https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
[FairfieldLife] one can barely describe Maharishi's greatness
but it is good to try... page 20 Global Good News: Maharishi's Achievements http://www.maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi-Achievements/19.html http://www.maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi-Achievements/19.html Global Good News: Maharishi's Achievements http://www.maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi-Achievements/19.html lighthouse of Invincibility for every nation, and a perpetual memorial to the over fifty years of unprecedented achievements of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi i... View on www.maharishi-pro... http://www.maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi-Achievements/19.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
You need to be under the care of a non-TM psychiatrist.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
David Lynch has helped to teach literally hundreds of thousands of people
TM. If anyone needs to uses swears here it is to call him a freaking karmic
superhero!! There is never such beautiful karma in the history of the world -he
is going to teach millions or tens or even a hundred million in his own
lifetime! People who would not otherwise get the chance, the very stressed,
traumatized and the very poor, anyone critizing David L makes a very sad
statement about themselves.
and much glory to David Lynch. it is all you David - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
no one is harmed by his art, that is nonsense. Do a little research before you
say such ridiculous things, no-one is harmed by a David Lynch movie. I loved
David's work before I even knew he was doing TM.
David Lynch is the greatest living artist - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. And
Maharishi was right again! He always gets proven right.
Jai Maharishi! David putting Maharishi knowledge into action. nothing could be
more beautiful and praiseworthy in this world today.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
You are either a deliberate fool or an unintentional fool.
If his movies are such great art, and since he claims his practice of TM gave
him the creativity to make the movies, why then has the Movement NEVER
sponsored a showing of his best films?
Why has MUM NEVER sponsored an on campus David Lynch movie marathon of
Eraserhead, Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks?
Because they are too negative by Movement standards, that's why.
The Movement is willing to make money off the sicko jackass, but they won't
show his films. And he lets them make money off him, even tho they diss his
creations. What a screwed up bunch of whack-os!
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 8:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
read the Brothers Grimm sometime, they are children's stories and they are
more violent than David's work, someone here has no concept of art or are just
another hater who loves to hate and resent anyone successful and doing good.
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[FairfieldLife] Homeless people have dreams and aspirations
Video Gallery | David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/videos.html?utm_source=facebookutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=4/13/15%20gettlove#video=nt0sm6hVh_Q http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/videos.html?utm_source=facebookutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=4/13/15%20gettlove#video=nt0sm6hVh_Q Video Gallery | David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/videos.html?utm_source=facebookutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=4/13/15%20gettlove#video=nt0sm6hVh_Q Watch testimonials from program participants as well as highlights from past events and webinars View on www.davidlynchfoun... http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/videos.html?utm_source=facebookutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=4/13/15%20gettlove#video=nt0sm6hVh_Q Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] TM and the Doe Fund
Transcendental Meditation for the Homeless http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/homeless-shelters.html#video=KiUeK6t8Fqo http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/homeless-shelters.html#video=KiUeK6t8Fqo Transcendental Meditation for the Homeless http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/homeless-shelters.html#video=KiUeK6t8Fqo Homeless men and women are letting go of anger and regaining a positive outlook on life through practice of Transcendental Meditation View on www.davidlynchfoun... http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/homeless-shelters.html#video=KiUeK6t8Fqo Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Going Clear Director
In the USA, we have religious freedom guaranteed by the Constitution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : May it happen to the TMO as well. ‘Going Clear’ director demands IRS repeal Scientology’s tax-exempt status http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/going-clear-director-irs-repeal-scientologys-tax-exemption/ http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/going-clear-director-irs-repeal-scientologys-tax-exemption/ ‘Going Clear’ director demands IRS repeal Scientology’s ... http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/going-clear-director-irs-repeal-scientologys-tax-exemption/ Alex Gibney’s Los Angeles Times op-ed calls for a “proper criminal investigation” of the religion, wants to make its funding more difficult. View on fortune.com http://fortune.com/2015/04/13/going-clear-director-irs-repeal-scientologys-tax-exemption/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
David Lynch has helped to teach literally hundreds of thousands of people TM. If anyone needs to uses swears here it is to call him a freaking karmic superhero!! There is never such beautiful karma in the history of the world -he is going to teach millions or tens or even a hundred million in his own lifetime! People who would not otherwise get the chance, the very stressed, traumatized and the very poor, anyone critizing David L makes a very sad statement about themselves. and much glory to David Lynch. it is all you David - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi no one is harmed by his art, that is nonsense. Do a little research before you say such ridiculous things, no-one is harmed by a David Lynch movie. I loved David's work before I even knew he was doing TM. David Lynch is the greatest living artist - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.And Maharishi was right again! He always gets proven right. Jai Maharishi! David putting Maharishi knowledge into action. nothing could be more beautiful and praiseworthy in this world today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] one can barely describe Maharishi's greatness
I can easily describe the Old Goat's greatness. He was a great liar, a great
huckster, a great con artist, a great fraud and a great womanizer. He was also
a great practitioner of self aggrandizement.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 10:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] one can barely describe Maharishi's greatness
but it is good to try... page 20
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[FairfieldLife] incompetent Guru
this website gives wrong advice like reversing the order of the awareness of the body starting from the feet and moving up in a modified version of one technique, due to not understanding about the nadis and the primordial status of the nadi at the top of the head. So it seems wise to such a relatively ignorant person to do like this and then teach this wrong technique to others! also using unbounded awareness as synonym for Brahman! do nt follow this follow the real, true ,correct thing, Maharishis original teachings. AYP Home Page - Free Lessons in Meditation, Pranayama, Kundalini, Tantra http://www.aypsite.org/ http://www.aypsite.org/ AYP Home Page - Free Lessons in Meditation, Pra... http://www.aypsite.org/ Events Training AYP Retreats Worldwide Listing Weekly Global Meditation and Healing Samyama Local Contacts Meditation Groups, Training ... View on www.aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time
The problem with this is advertising and reality do not always correspond. There is no plausible explanation proffered for how it works that is scientifically respectable or testable, and it is insufficiently researched so that even its existence as a phenomenon is not established regardless of whether there is an explanation for it or not. Attempting to find statistical effects in society to show it 'is real' has so many experimental design problems that what has been done in this regard is useless, except for advertising of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/ https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
read the Brothers Grimm sometime, they are children's stories and they are more violent than David's work, someone here has no concept of art or are just another hater who loves to hate and resent anyone successful and doing good.
[FairfieldLife] Healin the hidden wounds of war
Operation Warrior Wellness http://www.operationwarriorwellness.org/ http://www.operationwarriorwellness.org/ Operation Warrior Wellness http://www.operationwarriorwellness.org/ Wounded Marines train from the inside with Transcendental Meditation. Norwich University uses TM to build resilience. In the News August 28, 2014 View on www.operationwarri... http://www.operationwarriorwellness.org/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
Hopefully the shrink will allow him to keep posting here, though, because it's
good to be reminded that there are TM cult followers out there so insane they
make Nabby look normal. Srijau fills that function. :-)
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
You need to be under the care of a non-TM psychiatrist.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch is a Karmic Superhero
David Lynch has helped to teach literally hundreds of thousands of people
TM. If anyone needs to uses swears here it is to call him a freaking karmic
superhero!! There is never such beautiful karma in the history of the world -he
is going to teach millions or tens or even a hundred million in his own
lifetime! People who would not otherwise get the chance, the very stressed,
traumatized and the very poor, anyone critizing David L makes a very sad
statement about themselves.
and much glory to David Lynch. it is all you David - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
no one is harmed by his art, that is nonsense. Do a little research before you
say such ridiculous things, no-one is harmed by a David Lynch movie. I loved
David's work before I even knew he was doing TM.
David Lynch is the greatest living artist - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. And
Maharishi was right again! He always gets proven right.
Jai Maharishi! David putting Maharishi knowledge into action. nothing could be
more beautiful and praiseworthy in this world today.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
For most average TMers you ARE the TMO, Edg. The only thing you forgot to cover is what exactly was your TMO status claim? You spent what, 39 years working for the cult? For what purpose? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Fuck Lynch. In any other Yuga but Kali, the guy'd put to death on the spot. Non sequitur. The TMO almost got Russel Brand. But he's too smart. Non sequitur. Who's going to give even a dime to grungy Girish? Non sequitur. You had one single job to do - reach an enlightened state in 5- 7 years. You sucked as a spiritual teacher, so you got kicked out of the TMO - apparently you failed to produce one single enlightened person in over three decades. What we want to know now is what happened to all the money? LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
Memo: Accompanying this are two volumes, Celebrating the Dawn (1976) and Creating Ideal Society (1976) on Transcendental Meditation. These relate particularly to a transition in the activities of the larger TM movement that was taking place in the mid and late 1970's that are the precursor of themes in TM activism in the 1980's and beyond. From Maharishi's arrival in the West in the later 1950's TM as a developing organized movement in those times during the 1960's and 1970's was primary focused on teaching meditation to individuals also based then on the scientific research on meditation accruing up to the early 1970's. By the mid-1970's the TM organization transitioned over towards facilitating groups of individuals in to groups for communal practice of meditation as a form of direct-action for creating a better world. That change of theme then became a common core theme to many of Maharishi's activities from that time up until the end of his life in 2008. In gathering source publications I am seeing that the earlier 1970's were different from the late 1970's, the 1980's and to the present. The theoretical framework of the TM movement became re-formatted and re-enforced by the scientific research then being performed on meditation which drove policy implications for the organization of the TM movement from that period. For instance, Paper 98 in Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program Collected Papers, Volume 1 provides a good insight in to an impetus of the re-alignment of priority for the TM movement from then. The period of the mid 1970's was then a time where more developed [revolutionary and millenarian] themes and subsequent campaigns came about within TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : By e-mail: “The main phenomenon I would point to regarding this is that culturally we promote practices that create an uncomfortable or hostile environment for people who are seekers, critical thinkers, and more developmentally mature. These individuals receive negative reinforcement from the community to the extent that they believe they don't belong in the movement whereas the individuals that are more devout and dedicated to Maharishi's teachings receive positive reinforcement.” discussion: This is an extremely pertinent, succinct and very well said e-mail and it should not be lost track of in all of this. Again, it goes back to a nature of character in the leadership within this and what we have now as the TM communities. Thanks for taking the time to put this point together. Thanks also for being there coming along attending to and doing this work on behalf of our meditating communities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : “The problems and the solutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras: Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successful in life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirement observes. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces: More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atom re-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate order of national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics of numbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. From then the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely the teaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the new administrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics and much more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishi and Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do we entertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was a change in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then to being more of a faith-based organization. From the moments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced and effective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'out in the field' within the movement. These were the experienced field teachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just then going over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creation of teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I was there and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing the decapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then. Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it from on top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened to people. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makes mistakes in history. Years later now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who are effective teachers by character being more in charge the teaching movement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluation in the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remaining old-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirement or die,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Warren: How Corruption Works in DC
Amen. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Oh, Jesus help us. From: emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Elizabeth Warren: How Corruption Works in DC And, based on your statement of what presidents do.I think having a woman or a guy with a good smile (Obama has a good smile too) in office is a worthy goal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Yeah, let's elect someone because of their smile or because they are a woman. That's about as dumb as 85% of the American public. Presidents don't do anything but be a frontman for the band that's been playing the WH for a long time. They're just given a song list to perform. On 04/12/2015 11:19 AM, emily.mae50@... mailto:emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Don't see a single qualified Republican candidate in the bunch. On the other hand, Biden has the best smile. Hillary is the smartest and it's time we had a woman in office. She and Biden understand best what it would take of you and what the sacrifice involves; the rest are all blowhards. I think it's Rubio, isn't it? He's the best talker of the Republican bunch, imo, but too young in too many ways. Ha.that's all I'm going to say about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : The Democrats are in trouble for the next election if either Hillary Clinton or Biden were nominated as presidential candidate. In astrological terms, Clinton will be running a weak period of a debilitated Sun. Biden is also running a weak period of a retrograde Jupiter. For the Republican candidates, I'll look at Jeb Bush's chart next. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... mailto:richard@... wrote : So, let's review the potential presidential candidates: The Dems have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. The Repubs have Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Rick Perry, Marco Rudio, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Chris Christie and Carly Fiorina. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Is she running for president? If yes, the banks will be against her. Elizabeth Warren explains the real way corruption in Washington works http://www.vox.com/2015/4/10/8381711/elizabeth-warren-corruption Elizabeth Warren explains the real way corruption in Was... It's not about quid pro quo, it's about which way the wind blows. View on www.vox.com Preview by Yahoo
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There is no hope for the TM Movement since it was founded on the energies of deceit, deception and self aggrandizement. And while there were some TM teachers who were dedicated to spreading TM, there were a whole lot more who were in it for what they could to for themselves personally. Meaning they wanted to get enlightened and would do whatever it took to achieve that illusory goal. These men and women would abandon a TM Center in a heartbeat to go do some long rounding courses, leaving everyone in the lurch, bailing out on any commitments they had made to anyone and everyone. The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! They grinning TM mooks like Bob Roth then claim there is lots and lots of science to back up the outrageous claims made for TM, and the TM scientist shills like Boby Schneider then step up and wave sheaves of paper around saying Look at all these studies we got the guv'ment to pay for! They prove that TM is good! Never mind about the raw data, you can't see that, just take our word for it, TM is good! The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ “The problems and thesolutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras:Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successfulin life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirementobserves. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces:More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atomre-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate orderof national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics ofnumbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. Fromthen the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely theteaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the newadministrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics andmuch more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishiand Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do weentertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was achange in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then tobeing more of a faith-based organization. From themoments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced andeffective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'outin the field' within the movement. These were the experienced fieldteachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just thengoing over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creationof teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I wasthere and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing thedecapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then.Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it fromon top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened topeople. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makesmistakes in history. Yearslater now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who areeffective teachers by character being more in charge the teachingmovement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluationin the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remainingold-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirementor die, whichever can come first. An alarming message for changewithin sent by some retrogressive element in this more recently wasin honors granted in a re-appearance and rehabilitation of theWilsons, Neil Patterson, Abramson and some others being brought upand placed seated on stage at the 40th anniversary celebrationof MIU. Is that a movement that people would come back to, goingforward? # ..when did the movement change? Bhairitu writes: After the AE courses. Some teachers came back and assumed being TM Gestapo. Most of them were very mediocre souls probably lifetimes away from attaining any permanent state of enlightenment. They were rude and mean to other teachers and made pronouncement as if they had a stick up their butt. That's when folks started fleeing elsewhere. ..I've been away from the TMO since 1985 but I seem to recall some of them got drummed out themselves. They never bothered me but I sure heard stories from people who were their
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audi o
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Why is it that going to TM movement sites often gunks my computer's working, to the point of having to shutdown and re-start? I rarely have problems like that otherwise. You could just go to the youtube site directly, it's the same tape/slideshow.regarding TMO websites you might complain with Galaxy Ninja http://www.galaxyninja.com/ http://www.galaxyninja.com/ for all the ajax they stuff into these pages. . Shri Sukta - Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio HD (720p) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpOi2dwo_4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpOi2dwo_4 Shri Sukta - Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio HD (720p... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpOi2dwo_4 This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpOi2dwo_4 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : This is wonderful!!! Here’s the link: http://www.maharishiindiacourses.com/shri-sukta-maharishi-vedic-pandits-full-audio/ http://www.maharishiindiacourses.com/shri-sukta-maharishi-vedic-pandits-full-audio/
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If you weren't there and you can't get any information from Barry, there are two books about the AofE course and the TTC at Majorrca in Spain. See below. In one chapter Ned describes an event on the Majorrca TTC when he met an attractive gal that was really into the meditation and the rounding. Once he got her into his room he asked her: Do you knw the plow pose? LoL! I Will Always Live in Beverly Hills Growing up crazy in Hollywood by Ned Wynn William Morrow Co, 1990 Beyond Gurus by Nancy Cooke de Herrera Blue Dolphin Publishing, 1992 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : now that is very interesting in light of the fact that the stories of heavy unstressing on the Majorca/Fuigi course are legendary. So either such stories were lies, or there was more than one Majorca course. Mark Landau has said there were lots of people going bananas. I believe Rick has made statements to that effect as well. Non sequitur. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio Nothing out of the ordinary. One guy had digestive problems, everyone called him Mr. Cucumber, don't know why because all he seemed to eat was steamed zucchini. Oh yes, there was one real basket case, won't mention his name but M had him running down to the beach and back, getting messages with very little time actually spent in meditation. The guy actually looked horrible the whole course but I saw him a year or so later and he looked great. Then there was one guy, named Greg, that supposedly developed CC and a chick named Meadow that also developed CC. I think they married after the course and divorced later. But for the most part, most people had pretty normal experiences with an occasional head bobber. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio I was actually inquiring about all the folks around you. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio My *unstressing* was pretty much boredom. Thoughts, mantra ,thoughts, mantra. Occasional Kundalini rushes. I actually had far better experiences of pure awareness and kundalini before TTC. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio So how was the unstressing level in your neck of the hotel at the Majorca Fuiggi course? Regular or high test? From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio Geez Dick, at least tell us what's so wonderful about it. Did the secrets of the universe or creation open up to you? Did it *expand* your consciousness? Maybe you became enlightened? LOL, I remember on my TTC, Majorca-Fuiggi ,when M gave advanced and special techniques, if you didn't come down to dinner claiming to be *blown away*, you just weren't evolved enough(cool, for those from Rio Linda) to appreciate the powerfulness of the techs that had just been given. Of course, M did away with most of those techniques later because they were so ineffective. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: Dick Mays dickmays@... Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 12:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shri Sukta – Maharishi Vedic Pandits full audio This is wonderful!!! Here’s the link: http://www.maharishiindiacourses.com/shri-sukta-maharishi-vedic-pandits-full-audio/ http://www.maharishiindiacourses.com/shri-sukta-maharishi-vedic-pandits-full-audio/
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Thanks Mike, for changing the subject - awareness, consciousness and stillness seem to be complicated for some of the other informants. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ten generations back, Ambrose Dixon came to James Virginia, about 1640. Roger Williams, my infamous ancestor, was born in England, where he had graduated from Cambridge, and he had become a cleric in the Church of England. According to what I've read, Roger Williams founded Rhode Island and the Baptist Church and became its first citizen and pastor. He had become a respected minister at Salem, Massachusetts, and for a short time became a Fundamentalist, and then announced that, like the Pilgrims, he was in fact a Separatist, urging a complete separation between Church and State. It is further recorded that he endorsed full religious toleration. Due to Roger's outspoken views concerning these and other matters, he was deported back to England, but before he was chained up ...he fled into the wilderness to live with the Indians. He founded Providence Plantation in 1636. So much for the facts. If anything, the truth is exactly the opposite. Roger Williams was likely one of the most intolerant men ever to set foot in this country. He held to an extreme separatism which led him eventually to renounce every Christian church in the world as apostate. Go figure. He left London England, seeking religious freedom because he was a Quaker. He later left Virginia because he and his Quaker brothers felt discriminated against and resettled in Maryland where Lord Baltimore granted him land and refuge. Somewhere down the line, the Dixons joined Church of Christ in Kentucky. I guess I'm the first generation to return to seeking the Kingdom within via transcendental awareness. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awareness, Consciousness, Stillness I was up in Rochester, Mn. last week and looked to see if there was a group meditation there. The Quakers there are old-style Hicksite Friends simply sitting in awareness as no-mantra-no-thought stillness. Like the Fairfield Quaker meeting is deeply transcendent meditative that way. Transcendent, really a good activated field effect of pure consciousness without the cultural veneer of TM . Who We Are https://www.quakercloud.org/cloud/rochester-friends-meeting/pages/who-we-are https://www.quakercloud.org/cloud/rochester-friends-meeting/pages/who-we-are Who We Are https://www.quakercloud.org/cloud/rochester-friends-meeting/pages/who-we-are We welcome you to our meeting for worship in the confident expectation that both members and visitors will benefit from a mutual search for the truth which ... View on www.quakercloud.org https://www.quakercloud.org/cloud/rochester-friends-meeting/pages/who-we-are Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Empty, Awareness, pure consciousness. The list of 'correct meditation' in the teaching also includes “no-mantra, no thought”. Stillness. Though technically you are right that thinking the mantra is not implicitly transcendental consciousness, it is just consciousness as you've defined it by reference. Though as one gets really good at sitting with stillness then this transcendental meditative consciousness becomes vipassanaic-like in practice. Stillness and even watching thoughts emerge. The real TM tru-believer on hearing that would be horrified though asserting that as mindfulness, as in sitting still is comtemplative and or concentrative if you sit with it and hence no good by TM standard. ..As our TM Alpha EEG studies demonstrate that TM is superior. Come back to the mantra! Come back! Re-introduce the mantra and all costs! Faintly. Easily. Don't just sit there! However, I feel you are on to something in experience with your analysis of this. Sit with it some more. JaiGuruYou, -Buck in Meditative Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : About Consciousness versus Awareness: One of the characteristics of TM teachings has always been the conflation of two terms - consciousness and awareness. The result is that we liberally use the term “pure consciousness” or occasionally “pure awareness” in our tm-speak. These terms are ways that we conceptually identify a reality that is neither waking, dreaming or sleeping. Usually we call it “the forth state” or “transcendental consciousness”. Supposedly, this terminology describes an “experience” of “transcendental consciousness”. It is described as 1.) remaining “awake inside in a state where knower, knowing and known object are united”. Another way of describing it is 2.) “dissolving the process of experience into the experiencer –thus leaving the experiencer awake and alone
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Something I think the TMO should be thinking about for the future -- were the TM movement given to thinking about the real-world (as opposed to fantasy) future -- is What are we going to do when the existing pool of celebrity TMers runs dry? What's that mean for our sales model? This pool of celebs WILL, after all, run dry. There aren't going to be any NEW celebrity TMers. There is no mechanism for raising them properly. David Lynch was one of the last who was raised in the ashram model of being taught to revere the guru from afar, and then finally being offered the opportunity to meet him in person, even if it cost him a million dollars. So he got to meet Maharishi, got to get MMY to focus on him, and even got his blessing-from-afar as he went out and worked to sell his products and fulfill his dreams. That path clearly *worked* to turn Lynch into a True Believer, and a lifer. But that path is no longer open to the TMO. There ain't no guru to introduce future celebrities to. What? You think they're gonna pay big bucks to meet King Tony? Or Bevan? Or Hagelin? Get real. Maharishi was the draw. To meet him was why the Beatles and Clint and Merv and most of the other old-time celebrities allowed Maharishi to use their names to sell his products. And their names definitely did help to sell his products, so people in the TMO came to rely on the celebrity spokesperson model for spreading their message, just as Scientology did. But there ain't no Maharishi these days, and nothing even close. There is nothing to actually draw a big celebrity in to the cult with. So the pool of celebrity TMers is gonna dry up. What are they going to do then to market TM? Any thoughts? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! ... The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. A good point. The TM movement is being propped up -- financially and in PR terms -- by a 69-year-old guy who chain-smokes American Spirits and cigars, drinks a dozen or more cups of coffee a day, and (by his own admission) gets zero exercise. He's like a heart attack waiting to happen, and my bet is that not a single person whose livelihood depends on him has given a single thought to what they're going to do when he finally has one and croaks. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ “The problems and thesolutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras:Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successfulin life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirementobserves. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces:More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atomre-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate orderof national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics ofnumbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. Fromthen the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely theteaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the newadministrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics andmuch more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishiand Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do weentertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was achange in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then tobeing more of a faith-based organization. From themoments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced andeffective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'outin the field' within the movement. These were the experienced fieldteachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just thengoing over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creationof teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I wasthere and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing thedecapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then.Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it fromon top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened topeople. It was something that happened. Even
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Emptybill. Concerning this little essay. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : About Consciousness versus Awareness: One of the characteristics of TM teachings has always been the conflation of two terms - consciousness and awareness. The result is that we liberally use the term “pure consciousness” or occasionally “pure awareness” in our tm-speak. These terms are ways that we conceptually identify a reality
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~~~~~~~~ about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! ... The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. A good point. The TM movement is being propped up -- financially and in PR terms -- by a 69-year-old guy who chain-smokes American Spirits and cigars, drinks a dozen or more cups of coffee a day, and (by his own admission) gets zero exercise. He's like a heart attack waiting to happen, and my bet is that not a single person whose livelihood depends on him has given a single thought to what they're going to do when he finally has one and croaks. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ “The problems and thesolutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras:Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successfulin life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirementobserves. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces:More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atomre-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate orderof national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics ofnumbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. Fromthen the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely theteaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the newadministrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics andmuch more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishiand Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do weentertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was achange in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then tobeing more of a faith-based organization. From themoments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced andeffective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'outin the field' within the movement. These were the experienced fieldteachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just thengoing over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creationof teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I wasthere and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing thedecapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then.Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it fromon top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened topeople. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makesmistakes in history. Yearslater now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who areeffective teachers by character being more in charge the teachingmovement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluationin the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remainingold-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirementor die, whichever can come first. An alarming message for changewithin sent by some retrogressive element in this more recently wasin honors granted in a re-appearance and rehabilitation of theWilsons, Neil Patterson, Abramson and some others being brought upand placed seated on stage at the 40th anniversary celebrationof MIU. Is that a movement that people would come back to, goingforward? # ..when did the movement change? Bhairitu writes: After the AE courses. Some teachers came back and assumed being TM Gestapo. Most of them were very mediocre souls probably lifetimes away from attaining any permanent state of enlightenment. They were rude and mean to other teachers and made pronouncement as if they had a stick up their butt. That's when folks started fleeing elsewhere. ..I've been away from the TMO since 1985 but I seem to recall some of them got drummed out themselves. They never bothered me but I sure heard stories from people who were their victims. Sometimes what goes around comes around. # Are any of them still in charge of anything:? L Discussing: “One thing which is interesting hereis that this movement was founded by people who had a distinct lackof the first list and an abundance of the second list. To takea year off college and go to a 3-month TM TTC in 1972 required agreat lack of obedience, compliance, conformity, discipline andadherence; and a great abundance of
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The movement changed about the time Jerry Jarvis started the SIMS - before that the movement was different in the USA. That's about the time they put people like the two Barrys in charge of coordinating the movement and initiating. When some of the punks came back from the TTC they thought the universe revolved around them. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : After the AE courses. Almost all of the participants on these courses were from SIMS and the TMO in Europe, mostly young kids who had no idea what thie purpose was in lSome teachers came back and assumed being TM Gestapo. Some of the SIMS teachers never changed, as can be seen by what they are now posting to FFL - they are still posing as spiritual teachers, trying to tell people what to do and think, based on their own opinions; blaming their guru for their failure to obtain enlightenment in 5-7 years. They tried to turn TM practice into a religion with the Maharishi as their God. Most of them were very mediocre souls probably lifetimes away from attaining any permanent state of enlightenment. Non sequitur. They were rude and mean to other teachers and made pronouncement as if they had a stick up their butt. Non sequitur. That's when folks started fleeing elsewhere. Non sequitur. Sorta reminds me of the Wayward Pines trailer I just posted. Non sequitur. On 04/12/2015 12:56 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Discussing: “One thing which is interesting here is that this movement was founded by people who had a distinct lack of the first list and an abundance of the second list. To take a year off college and go to a 3-month TM TTC in 1972 required a great lack of obedience, compliance, conformity, discipline and adherence; and a great abundance of authenticity, self-direction, self-expression, appreciation of diversity, critical analysis, and playfulness. When did we change?” ..when did the movement change?
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You two guys sound kind of JELLOS that TM is so popular now, in spite of your efforts to discredit the movement. You just can't admit the truth: it's not David Lynch's fault that you both got kicked out of the TMO because you sucked as spiritual teachers. It's not complicated. We already know that the millionaire artist David Lynch can't compare to all your accomplishments - MJ can bake cookies and bread and the TB can write an online diary. Very impressive. That's what I'm talking about! From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! ... The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : A good point. The TM movement is being propped up -- financially and in PR terms -- by a 69-year-old guy who chain-smokes American Spirits and cigars, drinks a dozen or more cups of coffee a day, and (by his own admission) gets zero exercise. Non sequitur. He's like a heart attack waiting to happen, and my bet is that not a single person whose livelihood depends on him has given a single thought to what they're going to do when he finally has one and croaks. Non sequitur. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ “The problems and the solutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras: Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successful in life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirement observes. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces: More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atom re-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate order of national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics of numbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. From then the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely the teaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the new administrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics and much more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishi and Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do we entertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was a change in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then to being more of a faith-based organization. From the moments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced and effective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'out in the field' within the movement. These were the experienced field teachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just then going over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creation of teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I was there and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing the decapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then. Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it from on top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened to people. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makes mistakes in history. Years later now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who are effective teachers by character being more in charge the teaching movement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluation in the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remaining old-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirement or die, whichever can come first. An alarming message for change within sent by some retrogressive element in this more recently was in honors granted in a re-appearance and rehabilitation of the Wilsons, Neil Patterson, Abramson and some others being brought up and placed seated on stage at the 40th anniversary celebration of MIU. Is that a movement that people would come back to, going forward? # ..when did the movement change? Bhairitu writes: After the AE courses. Some teachers came back and assumed being TM Gestapo. Most of them were very mediocre souls probably lifetimes away from attaining any permanent state of enlightenment. They were rude and mean to other teachers and made pronouncement as if they had a stick up their butt. That's when folks started fleeing
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You've got it all wrong, we don't happen to the world, the world happens to us. :-D On 04/13/2015 09:12 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Fuck Lynch. In any other Yuga but Kali, the guy'd put to death on the spot. The TMO almost got Russel Brand. But he's too smart. I'm thinking the TMO might get lucky with another hot rock band or whatever. Suckers born every minute etc. Without a figure head to allure, though, there's small chance of getting someone into deep believer-hood. Maharishi says just don't gots the whallop anymore, cuz: HE'S DEAD. Who's going to give even a dime to grungy Girish? Not Bill Gates. Maybe a Russel type, but not a serious-ass business type. 16% reduced use of oxygen charts just are bullshit to the ultra-rich -- they're rich and beloved of God OBVIOUSLY, so a guru offering an in with God is a much lesser offer to them than it would be to a poor person. Believe it: they're already enjoying life as if God was their personal concierge. David Lynch got himself grabbed by the ego, and, hey, given his films' darknesses, sure seems like a proper karma for him to be victimized. Think of the shit he's put into all our minds with his tales of such fucked up personalities -- film after film with everything being done with a vile twist. THAT'S REAL NEGATIVITY DELIVERED TO THE WORLD. Real harm. Yeah, I said it. Real harm. When you put out that much PURE SHIT into the brains of millions, what are the chances that some folks in the audience are just on the cusp of acting out, and then a Lynch film puts someone past the tipping point? To most folks, that's a silly question. Nope. We're all affecting each other -- just some of us got the mojo to smack a whole-lotta minds in one go, and that responsibility is being met by EVIL DISREGARD for the sanctity of the mindset of the masses. Lynch is sick minded. End of story. Heh, R.Crumb would be a better celebrity for us. Just sayin'.
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By e-mail: “The main phenomenon I would point to regarding this is that culturally we promote practices that create an uncomfortable or hostile environment for people who are seekers, critical thinkers, and more developmentally mature. These individuals receive negative reinforcement from the community to the extent that they believe they don't belong in the movement whereas the individuals that are more devout and dedicated to Maharishi's teachings receive positive reinforcement.” discussion: This is an extremely pertinent, succinct and very well said e-mail and it should not be lost track of in all of this. Again, it goes back to a nature of character in the leadership within this and what we have now as the TM communities. Thanks for taking the time to put this point together. Thanks also for being there coming along attending to and doing this work on behalf of our meditating communities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : “The problems and the solutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras: Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successful in life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirement observes. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces: More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atom re-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate order of national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics of numbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. From then the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely the teaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the new administrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics and much more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishi and Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do we entertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was a change in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then to being more of a faith-based organization. From the moments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced and effective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'out in the field' within the movement. These were the experienced field teachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just then going over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creation of teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I was there and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing the decapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then. Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it from on top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened to people. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makes mistakes in history. Years later now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who are effective teachers by character being more in charge the teaching movement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluation in the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remaining old-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirement or die, whichever can come first. An alarming message for change within sent by some retrogressive element in this more recently was in honors granted in a re-appearance and rehabilitation of the Wilsons, Neil Patterson, Abramson and some others being brought up and placed seated on stage at the 40th anniversary celebration of MIU. Is that a movement that people would come back to, going forward? # ..when did the movement change? Bhairitu writes: After the AE courses. Some teachers came back and assumed being TM Gestapo. Most of them were very mediocre souls probably lifetimes away from attaining any permanent state of enlightenment. They were rude and mean to other teachers and made pronouncement as if they had a stick up their butt. That's when folks started fleeing elsewhere. ..I've been away from the TMO since 1985 but I seem to recall some of them got drummed out themselves. They never bothered me but I sure heard stories from people who were their victims. Sometimes what goes around comes around. # Are any of them still in charge of anything:? L Discussing: “One thing which is interesting here is that this movement was founded by people who had a distinct lack of the first list and an abundance of the second list. To take a year off college and go to a 3-month TM TTC in 1972 required a great lack of obedience, compliance, conformity, discipline and adherence; and a great abundance of authenticity, self-direction, self-expression, appreciation of diversity, critical analysis, and playfulness. When did we change?” ..when did the movement change? As the culture of the movement became TM-siddhis centric. Back when the metric changed from numbers of meditators and the teaching of TM over to groups of people practicing TM-yogic-flying.
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Fuck Lynch. In any other Yuga but Kali, the guy'd put to death on the spot. The TMO almost got Russel Brand. But he's too smart. I'm thinking the TMO might get lucky with another hot rock band or whatever. Suckers born every minute etc. Without a figure head to allure, though, there's small chance of getting someone into deep believer-hood. Maharishi says just don't gots the whallop anymore, cuz: HE'S DEAD. Who's going to give even a dime to grungy Girish? Not Bill Gates. Maybe a Russel type, but not a serious-ass business type. 16% reduced use of oxygen charts just are bullshit to the ultra-rich -- they're rich and beloved of God OBVIOUSLY, so a guru offering an in with God is a much lesser offer to them than it would be to a poor person. Believe it: they're already enjoying life as if God was their personal concierge. David Lynch got himself grabbed by the ego, and, hey, given his films' darknesses, sure seems like a proper karma for him to be victimized. Think of the shit he's put into all our minds with his tales of such fucked up personalities -- film after film with everything being done with a vile twist. THAT'S REAL NEGATIVITY DELIVERED TO THE WORLD. Real harm. Yeah, I said it. Real harm. When you put out that much PURE SHIT into the brains of millions, what are the chances that some folks in the audience are just on the cusp of acting out, and then a Lynch film puts someone past the tipping point? To most folks, that's a silly question. Nope. We're all affecting each other -- just some of us got the mojo to smack a whole-lotta minds in one go, and that responsibility is being met by EVIL DISREGARD for the sanctity of the mindset of the masses. Lynch is sick minded. End of story. Heh, R.Crumb would be a better celebrity for us. Just sayin'.
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On 04/13/2015 05:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! ... The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. */A good point. The TM movement is being propped up -- financially and in PR terms -- by a 69-year-old guy who chain-smokes American Spirits and cigars, drinks a dozen or more cups of coffee a day, and (by his own admission) gets zero exercise. He's like a heart attack waiting to happen, and my bet is that not a single person whose livelihood depends on him has given a single thought to what they're going to do when he finally has one and croaks. /* Nah, he'll probably outlive us all. ;-)
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So, a decade or more ago you got kicked out of the cult. You still sound really depressed about it. Have you ever considered visiting a cult-exit counselor? If not, why not? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There is no hope for the TM Movement since it was founded on the energies of deceit, deception and self aggrandizement. Non sequitur. Most people aren't interested in the personalities involved - we already know about Curtis, Barry and Rick, and we can form our own opinions - all we want to know is what happened to all the money. It must have cost the TMO thousands of dollars in food and lodging to put you up for all those years. Go figure. And while there were some TM teachers who were dedicated to spreading TM, there were a whole lot more who were in it for what they could to for themselves personally. Non sequitur. Meaning they wanted to get enlightened and would do whatever it took to achieve that illusory goal. These men and women would abandon a TM Center in a heartbeat to go do some long rounding courses, leaving everyone in the lurch, bailing out on any commitments they had made to anyone and everyone. Non sequitur. The current Movement is being propped up by an aging bizarro movie maker who parades a bunch of celebrities in front of the world waving their hands and saying Look at us! We are famous and rich! We got that way by doing TM! Do TM and you can be famous and rich too! Non sequitur. They grinning TM mooks like Bob Roth then claim there is lots and lots of science to back up the outrageous claims made for TM, and the TM scientist shills like Boby Schneider then step up and wave sheaves of paper around saying Look at all these studies we got the guv'ment to pay for! They prove that TM is good! Never mind about the raw data, you can't see that, just take our word for it, TM is good! Non sequitur. The Movement has very little traction these days, far too many people see through the absurdities they proffer. It is on its last legs. I give it another maybe 7-8 years before it is marginalized enough that you won't much of it anymore. When Lynch kicks the bucket, the celebrity pitch will run out of steam, RIP TM Movement, and good riddance. Non sequitur. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~ about TMO friendship ~~~ “The problems and the solutions for the TM movement are in the first three sutras: Friendliness, Compassion, Happiness.” -A friend who is successful in life, an old meditator who moved to Fairfield, Iowa in retirement observes. ..when did the movement change? Reminisces: More distinctly it changed in 1977 with the coming of the Vedic Atom re-organization and the wholesale sweeping out of a corporate order of national leaders and coordinators then who had used metrics of numbers of initiations to guide the movement up to that point. From then the movement became sidhis-centric, it overlooking entirely the teaching of TM, it overlooked the meditators, and the new administrators adjudicated based much less on merit and metrics and much more by their sense in fealty of a faith and belief in Maharishi and Maharishi's teaching using a one-way, “never do we entertain negativity, never do we denounce anyone”. There was a change in the cultural esprit de corps in teaching of TM from then to being more of a faith-based organization. From the moments of the Vedic Atom creation a lot of the most experienced and effective TM teachers were left out with no place to return to 'out in the field' within the movement. These were the experienced field teachers who themselves were still on courses in Europe or just then going over to courses and not in sync in that free-for-all creation of teams made up of just anyone and going out in usurpation. I was there and saw this, eye-witness. It was like witnessing the decapitation of the whole officer corps of a standing army then. Chaos ensued out in the field and autocrats tried to control it from on top at a distance. It was quite sad to watch what happened to people. It was something that happened. Even great leadership makes mistakes in history. Years later now in TM, scientist CEO's, administrators, with some who are effective teachers by character being more in charge the teaching movement now is getting back to metrics of performance and evaluation in the teaching of TM. We may yet wait for the remaining old-guard Plutarchs to get out of the way and in to their retirement or die, whichever can come first. An alarming message for change within sent by some retrogressive element in this more recently was in honors granted in a re-appearance and rehabilitation of the Wilsons, Neil Patterson, Abramson and some others being brought up and placed seated on
