Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a conspiracy theory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a government competent enough to pull off complex projects. Exactly. Conspiracies that stand the test of Occam's Razor have a chance of having happened, because one does not have to invent irrational and unprovable things to believe in them. Conspiracy theories require the person who believes in them to invest in things that cannot meet the Occam's Razor test (because there are simpler and more likely explanations) and require the believer to invest in the existence of complex add-ons to reality that cannot be proven to exist. The worst part about conspiracy theories IMO is that they are addictive. There have been many studies showing that the moment someone suspends belief in the rational and invests in one conspiracy theories, they are much more likely to believe the next conspiracy theory presented to them. Preferring irrational beliefs that cannot pass the Occam's Razor test becomes a habit, so what you wind up with is the people who flock to radio and TV shows that basically present nothing *but* conspiracy theories. And the audiences, having now put on the mindset of believing the unbelievable and turning off their discrimination, tune in every day to find out the next unlikely thing they're supposed to feel all elite and special for knowing. In other words, conspiracy theories are a drug, those who believe in them are junkies, and those who promote them are pushers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject.
Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until
you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure.
That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the
word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL?
The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to an addiction. Once
one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—a return to balanced, sound
thinking—is rare. What motivates a person to immerse himself in them in the
first place?
Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of
intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher
plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society,
watching his surroundings with suspicion. No one realizes what’s going on, he
thinks.
If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply
dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like
this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him.
Why Conspiracy Theories?
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From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The
banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks
broken up.
There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to
tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian
overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating
beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a
conspiracy theory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't
know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a
government competent enough to pull off complex projects.
Exactly. Conspiracies that stand the test of Occam's Razor have a chance of
having happened, because one does not have to invent irrational and unprovable
things to believe in them. Conspiracy theories require the person who believes
in them to invest in things that cannot meet the Occam's Razor test (because
there are simpler and more likely explanations) and require the believer to
invest in the existence of complex add-ons to reality that cannot be proven
to exist.
The worst part about conspiracy theories IMO is that they are addictive. There
have been many studies showing that the moment someone suspends belief in the
rational and invests in one conspiracy theories, they are much more likely to
believe the next conspiracy theory presented to them. Preferring irrational
beliefs that cannot pass the Occam's Razor test becomes a habit, so what you
wind up with is the people who flock to radio and TV shows that basically
present nothing *but* conspiracy theories. And the audiences, having now put on
the mindset of believing the unbelievable and turning off their
discrimination, tune in every day to find out the next unlikely thing they're
supposed to feel all elite and special for knowing.
In other words, conspiracy theories are a drug, those who believe in them are
junkies, and those who promote them are pushers.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Or maybe wanted to see a movie that wasn't about comic book heroes or talking pandas.;-) But for the record I like Eastwood's films so I'll probably watch this one too. On 05/21/2015 11:35 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart and liar. The Jesse Ventura incident - bs. The story of himself and two other SEALS killing 30 looters in New Orleans from atop the Superdome - bs. And his tale of killing two carjackers and the cops turning him loose when they realized who he was - total bs. If he had to fabricate such stories to make himself look good, how accurate
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Yep, conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction to harder things that become perniciously asocial like, “The most unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas, can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and mass murder”. Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone's protection. A strong protection against conspiracy theorists is in a vital and strong free public education for all citizens, at the least, that starts early and is sustained in to adulthood providing the critical skill-sets to have a more widely informed citizenry. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject. Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure. That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL? The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to an addiction. Once one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—a return to balanced, sound thinking—is rare. What motivates a person to immerse himself in them in the first place? Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. No one realizes what’s going on, he thinks. If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him. Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html A Magazine Restoring Plain Understanding View on realtruth.org http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a conspiracy theory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a government competent enough to pull off complex projects. Exactly. Conspiracies that stand the test of Occam's Razor have a chance of having happened, because one does not have to invent irrational and unprovable things to believe in them. Conspiracy theories require the person who believes in them to invest in things that cannot meet the Occam's Razor test (because there are simpler and more likely explanations) and require the believer to invest in the existence of complex add-ons to reality that cannot be proven to exist. The worst part about conspiracy theories IMO is that they are addictive. There have been many studies showing that the moment someone suspends belief in the rational and invests in one conspiracy theories, they are much more likely to believe the next conspiracy theory presented to them. Preferring irrational beliefs that cannot pass the Occam's Razor test becomes a habit, so what you wind up with is the people who flock to radio and TV shows that basically present nothing *but* conspiracy theories. And the audiences, having now put on the mindset of believing the unbelievable and turning off their discrimination, tune in every day to find out the next unlikely thing they're supposed to feel all elite and special for knowing. In other words, conspiracy theories are a drug, those who believe in them are junkies, and those who promote them are pushers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed.Millennialism http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism [by contrast] is a specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of different religions believe.A Chaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor. Dictionary.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi's Little Blaze-Orange Book Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi Univ... http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi offers the indomitable strength of invincibility to the military by bringing military power into alliance with the invincible power of Natural Law. View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, you raise really interesting points. Buck spent considerable time looking for form of leadership in inspirational speeches by finding historic famous speeches of historical famous leadership rallying moments. In experiment then transposing them over to try to stem the breech in Dome numbers, you will find those throughout Buck's many contributions to FFL: Washington, Frederick, King Richard, Asad, Chamberlain and others. No, Buck never did Adolf as Adolf is way too loaded to have much of a conversation about. Though that passage in that in the band of brothers movie given by the German general to his surrendering troops Buck did use at a point with good effect against the haters. You hit upon a distracting problem though where people may miss the import of how leadership is done whence there is attribution given. People get easily distracted by attribution, like you did with the Mao attribution. The quotations themselves are real interesting to look at if separated from his name. Yes, he was a miserable administrator and made errors in decisions of governance like some other famous millenarian revolutionaries of the 20th Century we know. But as a revolutionary at a time he was effective in the 20th Century. The Little Red Book is interesting to look at for its study in leadership. It is relevant still in the 21st Century. Your last point about transparency given the nature and speed of data in the internet world is absolutely right. Survival for any group in the modern world is going to be readily marked against ethical behavior. There is no hiding bad behavior.. that is a lot of the wrangling going on now within TM.. how to proceed. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Little Red Book? Looking at leadership qualities a while ago I got to wondering about Mao's voice of leadership in their revolution and sat down and read his 'quotations', the little red book. I was wondering 'how' he did it? It is quite a tight
[FairfieldLife] Re: Money for Nothing....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I see from maps (Google Earth) that Skelmersdale has a dome. Do you know if there is the much in the way of attendance? Looks like a suburb community surrounded by a lot of farmland. I wonder how many would pay for a yagya to eliminate stupidity. When you are selling water by the river, you have to think up good ad copy to incite desire to purchase. Dome attendance is very low nowadays. 20 in the morning and a few more at night. The new vastu community at Rendlesham in the much more salubrious south east took an awful lot of Skem folk away and they weren't happy about it. So much so that they refused to help raise funds for the vastu peace palace in case it takes more of their trade away. I was amazed at that attitude as vastu is what they are supposed to be working for but they have decided to stay put and got King Tony's blessing as they had been there so long but the UK movement (what's left of it) will continue to build elsewhere which doesn't bode well for Skem as it isn't a very nice place to visit apart from the TM bit, and Rendlesham is lovely.They don't hold many courses in Skem now either, most of there efforts are focused on the summer course which always used to be popular. I don't know how many go these days. There isn't much money coming in I suspect. And when the peace palace is finished next year... But it's all very small scale really and people aren't coming in to replace those who pass on so I can't see a future for TM at the moment. No yagya's for that either I suspect... I notice from the TM Free blog some comments on Nepal, that the tried and true (though not necessarily successful) technique of sending lots of sidhas to locations in dire need of something that Maharishi initially tried, has changed to raising money to create sidhas, basically to create cash flow for the movement, rather than making any attempt to demonstrate the so-called technology works. No, they raised money for a yaga to help UK's flooding last winter but only after the rain had stopped! If it came to the worst and they went over to Nepal to do prog and another quake happened they'd have to use the old fallback position of saying it would have been worse if we weren't there. Which they've already done in Nepal actually, I think it's only the party faithful that are convinced by it. Has anyone got any data on the practice attrition rate of those who learned the sidhis? For TM it appears to be 80% to 90% of those who learned. Of the 10% to 20% that remain committed to TM practice, how many of those would learn the sidhis? And then how many would continue practice after that? It would seem that creating sidhas is even a worse option than collecting the ones still committed to the practice and sending them somewhere. Then there is the problem of a disaster happening if you did get a large group together and it failed to accomplish anything. No idea. I did the full TMSP religiously for ten years, asanas too. But not any more and I don't know anyone who does it all twice a day - not and hold down a job. Most get fed up with how much time it takes. A lot find it's all a bit much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that? Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend
[FairfieldLife] Re: Money for Nothing....
I see from maps (Google Earth) that Skelmersdale has a dome. Do you know if there is the much in the way of attendance? Looks like a suburb community surrounded by a lot of farmland. I wonder how many would pay for a yagya to eliminate stupidity. When you are selling water by the river, you have to think up good ad copy to incite desire to purchase. I notice from the TM Free blog some comments on Nepal, that the tried and true (though not necessarily successful) technique of sending lots of sidhas to locations in dire need of something that Maharishi initially tried, has changed to raising money to create sidhas, basically to create cash flow for the movement, rather than making any attempt to demonstrate the so-called technology works. Has anyone got any data on the practice attrition rate of those who learned the sidhis? For TM it appears to be 80% to 90% of those who learned. Of the 10% to 20% that remain committed to TM practice, how many of those would learn the sidhis? And then how many would continue practice after that? It would seem that creating sidhas is even a worse option than collecting the ones still committed to the practice and sending them somewhere. Then there is the problem of a disaster happening if you did get a large group together and it failed to accomplish anything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that? Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's legal fees. I'd love to know the full amount raised world-wide. In the UK people buy each other yagya for birthdays. If someone is ill they get a yagya. If they move house - yagya. Looking for work - yagya. An astonishing amount of money must be flowing in to an organisation that is supposedly based on scientific principles. I haven't heard David Lynch talk about this, he probably knows it's embarrassing and keeps quiet to avoid bad publicity. I certainly would but it undermines so much that I just couldn't. Give this criminal enterprise a thorough public airing and the whole house of cards will come down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not
[FairfieldLife] Doctoring in India
What one doc in India thinks of his profession: I will never allow you to become a doctor - BBC News | | | | | | | | | | | I will never allow you to become a doctor - BBC NewsAn Indian doctor's rant against the state of his profession has touched off a debate online. | | | | View on www.bbc.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Maybe some of those snakey people chewed through that oil pipeline in
California that is leaking.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The
banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks
broken up.
There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to
tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian
overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating
beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a
conspiracy theory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't
know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a
government competent enough to pull off complex projects.
If this crime had been suspected because of unexpected fluctuations in exchange
rates and you had said a group of bankers were illegally manipulating the
currency markets, that would also be a conspiracy theory but because we'd have
an effect (mysterious money making) and a cause (greedy bankers) it wouldn't
raise too many eyebrows. And is also quite easy to unravel.
It's the willing invention of unnecessary elements that sets the two apart. I'm
sure we can all now go through recent and historical happenings and apply this
law of not multiplying entities. For instance, a bunch of Islamic fighters,
well armed, funded and organised had a plot to attack America. Lacking the sort
of weapons needed to cross the Atlantic they got creative and hijacked a few
planes... you know the rest, just don't add anything that isn't needed.
http://news.yahoo.com/banks-fined-2-5-billion-plead-guilty-market-140814112.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed.Millennialism http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism [by contrast] is a specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of different religions believe.A Chaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor. Dictionary.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi's Little Blaze-Orange Book Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi Univ... http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi offers the indomitable strength of invincibility to the military by bringing military power into alliance with the invincible power of Natural Law. View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, you raise really interesting points. Buck spent considerable time looking for form of leadership in inspirational speeches by finding historic famous speeches of historical famous leadership rallying moments. In experiment then transposing them over to try to stem the breech in Dome numbers, you will find those throughout Buck's many contributions to FFL: Washington, Frederick, King Richard, Asad, Chamberlain and others. No, Buck never did Adolf as Adolf is way too loaded to have much of a conversation about. Though that passage in that in the band of brothers movie given by the German general to his surrendering troops Buck did use at a point with good effect against the haters. You hit upon a distracting problem though where people may miss the import of how leadership is done whence there is attribution given. People get easily distracted by attribution, like you did with the Mao attribution. The quotations themselves are real interesting to look at if separated from his name. Yes, he was a miserable administrator and made errors in decisions of governance like some other famous millenarian revolutionaries of the 20th Century we know. But as a revolutionary at a time he was effective in the 20th Century. The Little Red Book is interesting to look at for its study in leadership. It is relevant still in the 21st Century. Your last point about transparency given the nature and speed of data in the internet world is absolutely right. Survival for any group in the modern world is going to be readily marked against ethical behavior. There is no hiding bad behavior.. that is a lot of the wrangling going on now within TM.. how to proceed. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Little Red Book? Looking at leadership qualities a while ago I got to wondering about Mao's voice of leadership in their revolution and sat down and read his 'quotations', the little red book. I was wondering 'how' he did it? It is quite a tight organizational prompting and type of capable leadership. Seemed something that our own movement has been missing for quite a few years. In process I did a mash-up of “Mao in to TM” to see how it sounded. Showing it around to local folks here, if they are not first prejudiced by knowing the quotations come from Mao, they generally recognize it as effective leadership that we do not have and could wish for in our own movement organization. Did you ever have the same idea about 'Mein Kampf' of Adolf Hitler? About Mao: His policies caused the deaths of tens of millions of people during his 27-year reign, more than any other Twentieth Century leader... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#Legacy
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Doug, if I may pull a Judy on you, I said that (in slightly different words) the changes that occur in society seem to not turn out the way the drivers of change intended. I did not use the word 'millenarians' because most who have been the fount of ideas for change seldom used a 1,000 year cycle as their goal post. Millenarians are just a small subset of all those who desire and imagine change. For example, Lyndon Johnson's 'Great Society' had much more immediate goals, as did the 'New Deal' of Roosevelt. Many of the programs set up in the 'New Deal' and in the 'Great Society' appear to be leading to a profound fiscal crisis for the United States, as is now happening in Greece, where government programs there have resulted in a situation where they can only be maintained by borrowing money from other countries, but there is a limit on how long that is viable. It seems almost certain now that Greece will be forced out of the European Union as a result and be forced to print their own currency, which will then devalue rather rapidly for a while. This kind of ostentatious 'millenarial' thinking tends to lead to disaster in the longer run. Sometimes I think millinarians develop because their immediate goals, such as 'to develop the full potential of the individual; improve governmental achievements; realize the highest ideal of education; eliminate the problems of crime and all behaviour that brings unhappiness to the family of man; maximize the intelligent use of the environment; bring fulfilment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society; and achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation', failed to happen and so they let the fulfilment day slide off into the future a bit, and then a bit more, and then quite a bit more. Early Christians expected the return of Christ rather immediately, but now that date has slide off the scales at about 2,000 years, and it keeps slipping. Millenarians are incompetent time keepers, because they are out of touch with reality even more than the average Joe who has more immediate goals within his/her lifetime. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology Anartaxiussays here that millenarians, 'they seem to never take the directionand form intended'. Never? It could be well argued that these fourmillenarians created broad and lasting cultural changes, forinstance. It is informative in an examination of organizations andtheir sociology to look at how in leadership they went about doingit, by contrast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism)is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movementin a coming major transformation of society, after which all thingswill be changed. Millennialism [by contrast] isa specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle,which many sects of different religions believe. AChaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has amajor, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor.Dictionary.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi's Little Blaze-Orange Book Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi University Press | | | | | | Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence |
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Anartaxius says here that millenarians, 'they seem to never take the direction and form intended'. Never? It could be well argued that these four millenarians created broad and lasting cultural changes, for instance. It is informative in an examination of organizations and their sociology to look at how in leadership they went about doing it, by contrast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed.Millennialism http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism [by contrast] is a specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of different religions believe.A Chaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor. Dictionary.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi's Little Blaze-Orange Book Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi Univ... http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi offers the indomitable strength of invincibility to the military by bringing military power into alliance with the invincible power of Natural Law. View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, you raise really interesting points. Buck spent considerable time looking for form of leadership in inspirational speeches by finding historic famous speeches of historical famous leadership rallying moments. In experiment then transposing them over to try to stem the breech in Dome numbers, you will find those throughout Buck's many contributions to FFL: Washington, Frederick, King Richard, Asad, Chamberlain and others. No, Buck never did Adolf as Adolf is way too loaded to have much of a conversation about. Though that passage in that in the band of brothers movie given by the German general to his surrendering troops Buck did use at a point with good effect against the haters. You hit upon a distracting problem though where people may miss the import of how leadership is done whence there is attribution given. People get easily distracted by attribution, like you did with the Mao attribution. The quotations themselves are real interesting to look at if separated from his name. Yes, he was a miserable administrator and made errors in decisions of governance like some other famous millenarian revolutionaries of the 20th Century we know. But as a revolutionary at a time he was effective in the 20th Century. The Little Red Book is interesting to look at for its study in leadership. It is relevant still in the 21st Century. Your last point about transparency given the nature and speed of data in the internet world is absolutely right. Survival for any group in the modern world is going to be readily marked against ethical behavior. There is no hiding bad
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
No Turqb, you are ranting assuming a lot of things here, again. Moderation can take many forms. Including self-restraint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling into the traps that conspiracy theorists prey on, and by teaching them how to analyze ANY claim to see if it holds up when compared to science, logic, and Occam's Razor. To really do this, and protect people, this kind of education needs to start in elementary school and then be carried forward throughout the remainder of one's education. Students need to be taught how to analyze claims made by religion, by cults, by politicians, and by those with an agenda who want them to buy into their conspiracy theories/agenda. Why I'm bothering to write this is that in reality the person who has been most consistent in trying to sell conspiracy theories to people on FFL is *Doug himself*. *He* is the one claims that there is a conspiracy of evil-intentioned people to drive away the real spiritual people by creating an atmosphere in which claims can actually BE examined in the way I suggest above. *He* is the one trying to ban people like me and Sal and Michael, who are in fact trying to present to those who tend to fall for claims without analyzing them thoroughly ways in which they really could and should analyze such claims. Buck wants a world in which *He* gets to decide what's appropriate to be said and what isn't. None of the people he wants to ban from FFL want that. We want, in fact,the opposite. We would like to see a forum in which everyone is free to challenge and analyze ANY claim, whether it is made by TB TMers or people who don't like TM and the TMO very much. Sal and Michael and I have been advocating the very thing that Buck *claims* to support here, but that his actual behavior has clearly shown that he hates, and is trying to prevent. He'd like to moderate away the people who actually subject claims to analysis. We would like to see more such analysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Yep, conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction to harder things that become perniciously asocial like, “The most unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas, can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and mass murder”. Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone's protection. A strong protection against conspiracy theorists is in a vital and strong free public education for all citizens, at the least, that starts early and is sustained in to adulthood providing the critical skill-sets to have a more widely informed citizenry. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject. Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure. That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL? The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to an addiction. Once one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—a return to balanced, sound thinking—is rare. What motivates a person to immerse himself in them in the first place? Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. No one realizes what’s going on, he thinks. If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him. Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html A Magazine Restoring Plain Understanding View on realtruth.org http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling into the traps that conspiracy theorists prey on, and by teaching them how to analyze ANY claim to see if it holds up when compared to science, logic, and Occam's Razor. To really do this, and protect people, this kind of education needs to start in elementary school and then be carried forward throughout the remainder of one's education. Students need to be taught how to analyze claims made by religion, by cults, by politicians, and by those with an agenda who want them to buy into their conspiracy theories/agenda. Why I'm bothering to write this is that in reality the person who has been most consistent in trying to sell conspiracy theories to people on FFL is *Doug himself*. *He* is the one claims that there is a conspiracy of evil-intentioned people to drive away the real spiritual people by creating an atmosphere in which claims can actually BE examined in the way I suggest above. *He* is the one trying to ban people like me and Sal and Michael, who are in fact trying to present to those who tend to fall for claims without analyzing them thoroughly ways in which they really could and should analyze such claims. Buck wants a world in which *He* gets to decide what's appropriate to be said and what isn't. None of the people he wants to ban from FFL want that. We want, in fact,the opposite. We would like to see a forum in which everyone is free to challenge and analyze ANY claim, whether it is made by TB TMers or people who don't like TM and the TMO very much. Sal and Michael and I have been advocating the very thing that Buck *claims* to support here, but that his actual behavior has clearly shown that he hates, and is trying to prevent. He'd like to moderate away the people who actually subject claims to analysis. We would like to see more such analysis. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Yep,conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction toharder things that become perniciously asocial like, “Themost unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas,can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and massmurder”. Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone'sprotection. A strong protection against conspiracy theorists is in avital and strong free public education for all citizens, at the least, that starts early and is sustained in to adulthood providing the critical skill-setsto have a more widely informed citizenry. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject. Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure. That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL? The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to anaddiction. Once one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—areturn to balanced, sound thinking—is rare. What motivates a person toimmerse himself in them in the first place? Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspringof intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking ona higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks thefringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. No one realizes what’s going on, he thinks. If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, hesimply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Everyepisode like this further reaffirms how special this inside informationmakes him. Why Conspiracy Theories? | | | | | | | | | | | Why Conspiracy Theories?A Magazine Restoring Plain Understanding | | | | View on realtruth.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Millennialism http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism [by contrast] is a specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of different religions believe.A Chaney, Princeton.edu Here is another human characteristic, simplifying things according to round numbers. We have 10 fingers and a 10-base number system, and we have a baseline year of one orbit around the sun (which was explained differently before we knew about orbits) and we multiply that year by 10 and by 10x10 (100) and by 10x10x10 (1000) but except for the base year, these intervals are arbitrarily forced by the number system. If we had had a 2-base number system (binary) we would have xo (2), xoo (4) and xooo (8), and so on. In a 2-base system we could have a 1024 year cycle (as it would appear in a 10-base system). If we had a 3-base number system we could have a 729-year cycle (3x3x3x3x3x3x3) or a 2187-year cycle (3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3). These nice round figures are mostly arbitrary artefacts of the way we think which is derived partly from our physical structure, that we count on our fingers. The length of the year on Earth also varies slightly today, and its length is basically derived from the rotation of the Earth around its axis, one day, and how many of those days is needed to complete and orbit. This changes every year too, the day getting a bit longer each year. Based on physics and mathematics and gravitational dynamics involving tides and the Moon, it has been calculated that the day of the early Earth was about 6 hours long 4.5 billion years ago, and about 21 to 22 hours long 620 million years ago (this latter figure has been replicated using other methods as well). so if we had been graced with just one arm instead of two, we might have ended up with 625-year or 3125-year 'milleniums'.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
At least Doug is inspiring interesting replies, which partially accounts for FFL having at least 3 times the number of posts as The Peak since about May 17. The contrast of viewpoints is the driver of inspiration in some and displeasure in others. In scientific discussions, people argue and eventually some headway is made. In spiritual circles, people argue and little headway is ever made because the arguments are over imaginary things instead of real things. If spirituality ever really adopted evidence for its claims, progress could be made in settling many points of dispute. There is a certain lack of honesty that permeates spiritual discourse. A note (published in 1794) by Thomas Paine, one of the instigators of the American Revolution, regarding religious thinking (Paine was something of a Deist by the way, not an atheist): 'All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.' 'It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and, in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive anything more destructive to morality than this?' From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling into the traps that conspiracy theorists prey on, and by teaching them how to analyze ANY claim to see if it holds up when compared to science, logic, and Occam's Razor. To really do this, and protect people, this kind of education needs to start in elementary school and then be carried forward throughout the remainder of one's education. Students need to be taught how to analyze claims made by religion, by cults, by politicians, and by those with an agenda who want them to buy into their conspiracy theories/agenda. Why I'm bothering to write this is that in reality the person who has been most consistent in trying to sell conspiracy theories to people on FFL is *Doug himself*. *He* is the one claims that there is a conspiracy of evil-intentioned people to drive away the real spiritual people by creating an atmosphere in which claims can actually BE examined in the way I suggest above. *He* is the one trying to ban people like me and Sal and Michael, who are in fact trying to present to those who tend to fall for claims without analyzing them thoroughly ways in which they really could and should analyze such claims. Buck wants a world in which *He* gets to decide what's appropriate to be said and what isn't. None of the people he wants to ban from FFL want that. We want, in fact,the opposite. We would like to see a forum in which everyone is free to challenge and analyze ANY claim, whether it is made by TB TMers or people who don't like TM and the TMO very much. Sal and Michael and I have been advocating the very thing that Buck *claims* to support here, but that his actual behavior has clearly shown that he hates, and is trying to prevent. He'd like to moderate away the people who actually subject claims to analysis. We would like to see more such analysis. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Yep,conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction toharder things that become perniciously asocial like, “Themost unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas,can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and massmurder”. Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone'sprotection. A strong protection against conspiracy theorists is in avital and strong free public education for all citizens, at the least, that starts early and is sustained in to adulthood providing the critical skill-setsto have a more widely informed citizenry. -JaiGuruYou! ---In
[FairfieldLife] Thrifty Metabolisms
For years I have been battling online with the skinny minis over diet. They contend that losing weight is easy because all you do is reduce your calories and exercise more. Well, I knew this was wrong and now science has proven it. You see, the skinny minis are the ones with spendthrift metabolisms who can chug down foods that some folks would get fat just looking at. Some of us have thrifty metabolisms which theoretically developed during times of famine where we could survive on less food than the rest of the population. When a person with a thrifty metabolism reduces food intake the metabolism just slows down and decides okay I can work with that. So there is no weight loss even with exercise. I've known this for years but to get it across to boneheads has been quite a challenge. Here's an article on a recently released study about this: http://time.com/3856890/excercise-fitness-weight-loss-gain-obesity-research/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Actually, I've been addressing your original post, that it was a crummy film. Six academy ward nominations are a great honor. Whether you win or not. The nominations come from people far more knowledgeable about films than you or I or the geek who's critique you justified your post by. I could care less about the rest of your rant... any of it. It's quite obvious, your dislike for the film, is purely political in nature. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring
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then educate yourself and read his book as I have From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
as I said before, trite, predictable and formulaic - and if you don't know that the academy awards is a purely political process itself then you know nothing about it at all. When a movie like this gets made in a time of war, few are willing to criticize it for fear of right wingers who think all critics should be themselves raped and killed (this has already happened) Only a few weeks into its release, the film has been flattened into a symbol to serve the interests of an ideology that, arguably, runs counter to the ethos of the film itself. How much, if at all, should Eastwood concern himself with fans who misunderstand and misuse his work? If he, intentionally or not, makes a hero out of Kyle – who, bare minimum, was a racist who took pleasure in dehumanising and killing brown people – is he responsible for validating racism, murder, and dehumanisation? Is he a propagandist if people use his work as propaganda? That question came to the fore last week on Twitter when several liberal journalists drew attention to Kyle’s less Oscar-worthy statements. “Chris Kyle boasted of looting the apartments of Iraqi families in Fallujah,” wrote author and former Daily Beast writer Max Blumenthal. “Kill every male you see,” Rania Khalek quoted, calling Kyle an “American psycho”. Retaliation from the rightwing twittersphere was swift and violent, as Khalek documented in an exhaustive (and exhausting) post at Alternet. “Move your America hating ass to Iraq, let ISIS rape you then cut your cunt head off, fucking media whore muslim,” wrote a rather unassuming-looking mom named Donna. “Rania, maybe we to take you ass overthere and give it to ISIS … Dumb bitch,” offered a bearded man named Ronald, who enjoys either bass fishing or playing the bass (we may never know). “Waterboarding is far from torture,” explained an army pilot named Benjamin, all helpfulness. “I wouldn’t mind giving you two a demonstration.” The patriots go on, and on and on. They cannot believe what they are reading. They are rushing to the defence of not just Kyle, but their country, what their country means. They call for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful enough to criticise American hero Chris Kyle. Because Chris Kyle is good, and brown people are bad, and America is in danger, and Chris Kyle saved us. The attitude echoes what Miller articulated about Kyle in her Salon piece: “his steadfast imperviousness to any nuance, subtlety or ambiguity, and his lack of imagination and curiosity, seem particularly notable”. The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero? | Lindy West | | | | | | | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why a...Lindy West: Clint Eastwood’s film about Navy Seal Chris Kyle has hit a raw nerve in America, with right wingers calling for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful e... | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Actually, I've been addressing your original post, that it was a crummy film. Six academy ward nominations are a great honor. Whether you win or not. The nominations come from people far more knowledgeable about films than you or I or the geek who's critique you justified your post by. I could care less about the rest of your rant... any of it. It's quite obvious, your dislike for the film, is purely political in nature. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
LBJ is actually a good example of the rhetoric of leadership within millenarian revolution. [notice spelling with one 'n', not millennial] change. For instance LBJ's articulation of transcendent and larger promises in America of an evolving dharma-like progression of equal rights for all. Gathering people in, see what and how he said it. Read a few of the first few paragraphs where he lays things out and see how he reaches for it in rhetoric. He was quite successful with “The Great Society” and then with civil rights and voting rights legislation in turn. Was a remarkable point of leadership in broad cultural change. Time was ripe and he led rhetorically. Text of “The American Promise”.. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15,... http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 [As delivered in person before a joint session at 9:02 p.m.] View on www.lbjlib.utexas.edu http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp Preview by Yahoo You can watch him deliver it on YouTube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NvPhiuGZ6I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NvPhiuGZ6I ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Anartaxius says here that millenarians, 'they seem to never take the direction and form intended'. Never? It could be well argued that these four millenarians created broad and lasting cultural changes, for instance. It is informative in an examination of organizations and their sociology to look at how in leadership they went about doing it, by contrast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed.Millennialism http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism [by contrast] is a specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle, which many sects of different religions believe.A Chaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has a major, sudden impact on society or on some aspect of human endeavor. Dictionary.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi's Little Blaze-Orange Book Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi’s Absolute Theory of Defence | Maharishi Univ... http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Maharishi offers the indomitable strength of invincibility to the military by bringing military power into alliance with the invincible power of Natural Law. View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/government-administration/a14.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, you raise really interesting points. Buck spent
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Yes, we get to hear the same sermon which Barry has delivered 2000 times before. The self appointed anti cult czar. This is what constitutes content for Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : At least Doug is inspiring interesting replies, which partially accounts for FFL having at least 3 times the number of posts as The Peak since about May 17. The contrast of viewpoints is the driver of inspiration in some and displeasure in others. In scientific discussions, people argue and eventually some headway is made. In spiritual circles, people argue and little headway is ever made because the arguments are over imaginary things instead of real things. If spirituality ever really adopted evidence for its claims, progress could be made in settling many points of dispute. There is a certain lack of honesty that permeates spiritual discourse. A note (published in 1794) by Thomas Paine, one of the instigators of the American Revolution, regarding religious thinking (Paine was something of a Deist by the way, not an atheist): 'All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.' 'It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and, in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive anything more destructive to morality than this?' From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling into the traps that conspiracy theorists prey on, and by teaching them how to analyze ANY claim to see if it holds up when compared to science, logic, and Occam's Razor. To really do this, and protect people, this kind of education needs to start in elementary school and then be carried forward throughout the remainder of one's education. Students need to be taught how to analyze claims made by religion, by cults, by politicians, and by those with an agenda who want them to buy into their conspiracy theories/agenda. Why I'm bothering to write this is that in reality the person who has been most consistent in trying to sell conspiracy theories to people on FFL is *Doug himself*. *He* is the one claims that there is a conspiracy of evil-intentioned people to drive away the real spiritual people by creating an atmosphere in which claims can actually BE examined in the way I suggest above. *He* is the one trying to ban people like me and Sal and Michael, who are in fact trying to present to those who tend to fall for claims without analyzing them thoroughly ways in which they really could and should analyze such claims. Buck wants a world in which *He* gets to decide what's appropriate to be said and what isn't. None of the people he wants to ban from FFL want that. We want, in fact,the opposite. We would like to see a forum in which everyone is free to challenge and analyze ANY claim, whether it is made by TB TMers or people who don't like TM and the TMO very much. Sal and Michael and I have been advocating the very thing that Buck *claims* to support here, but that his actual behavior has clearly shown that he hates, and is trying to prevent. He'd like to moderate away the people who actually subject claims to analysis. We would like to see more such analysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Yep, conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction to harder things that become perniciously asocial like, “The most unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas, can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and mass murder”. Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone's protection. A strong protection against conspiracy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Princess Charlotte of Cambridge
What I find most amusing, and why I can't resist commenting, is when Barry gloats about a comment made by a reader of an article who said TM, people are still talking about it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that is about the only thing he talks about. Or, at least the main thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Been noticing for some time. They make the place entertaining in their own way. ;-) On 05/20/2015 08:30 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: thanks for noticing (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You guys act like a trio of cranky old men who've been locked up in a mental institution. Oh that's right this is the Funny Farm Lounge though some of the prior inmates have been moved to another ward. ;-) Derek will be along with your medication any time now. On 05/20/2015 02:23 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : It all depends on how you look at things. Icke is in the business of shocking people. So, you have to understand what his motivations are--money, fame, notoriety, entertainment, sex, or whatever. From what I understand, I don't believe he's interested in higher consciousness. David Icke had a severe mental breakdown. He thought he was the son of god (common psychotic delusion) and thought that wearing a purple tracksuit would spare him and his family from god's wrath. He also made loads of predictions, none of which came true. Prior to discovering his true mission in life he was a goalkeeper and then TV sports commentator before he had his vision. While everyone else was laughing at him I felt sorry for him. His mind had cracked and he didn't know what to do with the drivel that was pouring forth from his unconscious. A lot of what he says is pure paranoia, unfortunately there are plenty of things going on in the world that are very dodgy so anyone with a penchant for wild stories about what they are up to will get enough of a hit rate to convince a few lonely souls that they're onto something. He is of course a multi-millionaire from his endless lectures and it kind of worries me that so many people who never learned a critical way of judging evidence are convinced by him. Having a dream about aliens and then meeting a new age channeller who confirms what you saw is not evidence. Some of what he says politically I agree with but it isn't like he's the only commentator on Earth who thinks that the Palestinians have got a raw deal. I do think he's dangerous though, mainly because there are growing numbers of people who believe that the world is run by a secret cabal of shape shifting reptiles from outer space. Are these people allowed to vote? And given that Icke's main message is one of breaking free from social conditioning, isn't it ironic that they got suckered by this and are therefore must be the most easily manipulated people out there? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Jr are you saying you give credence to David Icke's stuff??? And what would David Icke make of John? I suspect he'd see him the same way we do -- dysfunctional. :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Princess Charlotte of Cambridge Salyavin, David Icke states in his lectures and books that the present queen of England is one of the reptilian life forms who have taken over the power positions in the world. Yes, even George W. Bush is considered to be one of them. David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia David Vaughan Icke (/aɪk/; IKE, born 29 April 1952) is an English writer, public speaker and a former professional footballer and sports broadcaster. He ... View on en.wikipedia.org Preview by Yahoo Also, it is interesting to note that the jyotish charts of the grandparents (Prince Charles and Princess Diana) and parents (Prince William, Duke of Cambridge and Duchess Katherine) of Princess Charlotte have the conjunction of the Moon and Rahu/Ketu. As you know, Rahu/Ketu is considered to be a snake, a reptile in vedic lore. Is it possible that jyotish can identify the reptilian people who are living here on earth? Is it possible that Nature is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Money for Nothing....
/You forgot to mention that you lived in a TM Center for a decade, probably for free, and got kicked out. So, your report coould hardly be accepted as non-biased. I would think that you'd be grateful for the free rent instead of throwing all your old TMer friends under the bus. Oh, I forgot you're using an alias. Go figure./ Quoting salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com: A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that? Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's legal fees. I'd love to know the full amount raised world-wide. In the UK people buy each other yagya for birthdays. If someone is ill they get a yagya. If they move house - yagya. Looking for work - yagya. An astonishing amount of money must be flowing in to an organisation that is supposedly based on scientific principles. I haven't heard David Lynch talk about this, he probably knows it's embarrassing and keeps quiet to avoid bad publicity. I certainly would but it undermines so much that I just couldn't. Give this criminal enterprise a thorough public airing and the whole house of cards will come down.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Money for Nothing....
Sal, do you realize that you tell this same story at least a couple times a week. I think we all got it. Granted, Michael would like to hear it every day, but most everyone else has the gist of it by now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I see from maps (Google Earth) that Skelmersdale has a dome. Do you know if there is the much in the way of attendance? Looks like a suburb community surrounded by a lot of farmland. I wonder how many would pay for a yagya to eliminate stupidity. When you are selling water by the river, you have to think up good ad copy to incite desire to purchase. Dome attendance is very low nowadays. 20 in the morning and a few more at night. The new vastu community at Rendlesham in the much more salubrious south east took an awful lot of Skem folk away and they weren't happy about it. So much so that they refused to help raise funds for the vastu peace palace in case it takes more of their trade away. I was amazed at that attitude as vastu is what they are supposed to be working for but they have decided to stay put and got King Tony's blessing as they had been there so long but the UK movement (what's left of it) will continue to build elsewhere which doesn't bode well for Skem as it isn't a very nice place to visit apart from the TM bit, and Rendlesham is lovely.They don't hold many courses in Skem now either, most of there efforts are focused on the summer course which always used to be popular. I don't know how many go these days. There isn't much money coming in I suspect. And when the peace palace is finished next year... But it's all very small scale really and people aren't coming in to replace those who pass on so I can't see a future for TM at the moment. No yagya's for that either I suspect... I notice from the TM Free blog some comments on Nepal, that the tried and true (though not necessarily successful) technique of sending lots of sidhas to locations in dire need of something that Maharishi initially tried, has changed to raising money to create sidhas, basically to create cash flow for the movement, rather than making any attempt to demonstrate the so-called technology works. No, they raised money for a yaga to help UK's flooding last winter but only after the rain had stopped! If it came to the worst and they went over to Nepal to do prog and another quake happened they'd have to use the old fallback position of saying it would have been worse if we weren't there. Which they've already done in Nepal actually, I think it's only the party faithful that are convinced by it. Has anyone got any data on the practice attrition rate of those who learned the sidhis? For TM it appears to be 80% to 90% of those who learned. Of the 10% to 20% that remain committed to TM practice, how many of those would learn the sidhis? And then how many would continue practice after that? It would seem that creating sidhas is even a worse option than collecting the ones still committed to the practice and sending them somewhere. Then there is the problem of a disaster happening if you did get a large group together and it failed to accomplish anything. No idea. I did the full TMSP religiously for ten years, asanas too. But not any more and I don't know anyone who does it all twice a day - not and hold down a job. Most get fed up with how much time it takes. A lot find it's all a bit much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
/It's a clear case of transference, Steve - everyone knows that Barry has been, and probably still is, in a cult of Rama and now he feels guilty about it and wants to transfer his cognitive dissonce onto Buck. The question is, was Barry forced into working for the cult or did he volunteer? Apparently nobody forced him to give up all that money. Go figure./ /Most of the stuff Barry says about cults is misinformation and junk science that has been debunked years ago by social scientists. If cult brainwashing worked we could use it on our criminals in our prisons. If brainwashing works, then we can assume that Barry was himself brainwashed. Then the question becomes is Barry still under the spell of the, now dead, cult leader and still covertly working for the cult? / Quoting steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: Yes, we get to hear the same sermon which Barry has delivered 2000 times before. The self appointed anti cult czar. This is what constitutes content for Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : At least Doug is inspiring interesting replies, which partially accounts for FFL having at least 3 times the number of posts as The Peak since about May 17. The contrast of viewpoints is the driver of inspiration in some and displeasure in others. In scientific discussions, people argue and eventually some headway is made. In spiritual circles, people argue and little headway is ever made because the arguments are over imaginary things instead of real things. If spirituality ever really adopted evidence for its claims, progress could be made in settling many points of dispute. There is a certain lack of honesty that permeates spiritual discourse. A note (published in 1794) by Thomas Paine, one of the instigators of the American Revolution, regarding religious thinking (Paine was something of a Deist by the way, not an atheist): 'All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.' 'It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and, in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive anything more destructive to morality than this?' From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling into the traps that conspiracy theorists prey on, and by teaching them how to analyze ANY claim to see if it holds up when compared to science, logic, and Occam's Razor. To really do this, and protect people, this kind of education needs to start in elementary school and then be carried forward throughout the remainder of one's education. Students need to be taught how to analyze claims made by religion, by cults, by politicians, and by those with an agenda who want them to buy into their conspiracy theories/agenda. Why I'm bothering to write this is that in reality the person who has been most consistent in trying to sell conspiracy theories to people on FFL is *Doug himself*. *He* is the one claims that there is a conspiracy of evil-intentioned people to drive away the real spiritual people by creating an atmosphere in which claims can actually BE examined in the way I suggest above. *He* is the one trying to ban people like me and Sal and Michael, who are in fact trying to present to those who tend to fall for claims without analyzing them thoroughly ways in which they really could and should analyze such claims. Buck wants a world in which *He* gets to decide what's appropriate to be said and what isn't. None of the people he wants to ban from FFL want that. We want, in fact,the opposite. We would like to see a forum in which everyone is free to challenge and analyze ANY claim, whether it is made by TB TMers or people who don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Money for Nothing....
/I'm beginning to see why Judy and Ann doubted your veracity. Apparently Barry paid good money for a secret mantra nickname of a Hindu god and then chanted it for years, selling the secret word hundreds of times to other poor students, if we can believe his reports. Can you spell cognitive dissonance? There must be a reason you and the Salya and the MJ character were never allowed to attend a TTC, so you'd hardly be anyone we could trust with any accurate inner circle esoteric TMer information. You tres amigos seem to have a way with words but you suck as spiritual teachers and informants. Is there anything you can do but bitch and complain and fink on your old friends?/ Quoting anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: I see from maps (Google Earth) that Skelmersdale has a dome. Do you know if there is the much in the way of attendance? Looks like a suburb community surrounded by a lot of farmland. I wonder how many would pay for a yagya to eliminate stupidity. When you are selling water by the river, you have to think up good ad copy to incite desire to purchase. I notice from the TM Free blog some comments on Nepal, that the tried and true (though not necessarily successful) technique of sending lots of sidhas to locations in dire need of something that Maharishi initially tried, has changed to raising money to create sidhas, basically to create cash flow for the movement, rather than making any attempt to demonstrate the so-called technology works. Has anyone got any data on the practice attrition rate of those who learned the sidhis? For TM it appears to be 80% to 90% of those who learned. Of the 10% to 20% that remain committed to TM practice, how many of those would learn the sidhis? And then how many would continue practice after that? It would seem that creating sidhas is even a worse option than collecting the ones still committed to the practice and sending them somewhere. Then there is the problem of a disaster happening if you did get a large group together and it failed to accomplish anything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that? Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's legal fees. I'd love to know the full amount raised world-wide. In the UK people buy each other yagya for birthdays. If someone is ill they get a yagya. If they move house - yagya. Looking for work - yagya. An astonishing amount of money must be flowing in to an organisation that is supposedly based on scientific principles. I haven't heard David Lynch talk about this, he probably knows it's embarrassing and keeps quiet to avoid bad publicity. I certainly would but it undermines so much that I just couldn't. Give this criminal enterprise a thorough public airing and the whole house of cards will come down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
if you do choose to read his book, be warned it is much much crappier than the movie - here is a partial review off Amazon: Even if it was possible to overlook Kyle's exaggerations, embellishments, and bold-faced untruths, even if it was possible to ignore his overblown ego, immaturity, ignorance, and biases, the fact that the book is so poorly written provides a significant obstacle to its enjoyment even as a work of fiction. It is, hands-down, THE WORST book I have ever read and I cannot begin to fathom how low our standards have sunk when I see the number of stellar reviews this barely literate piece of crap has earned. I cannot begin to consider what it says about America and it's people. I feel dirty and very, very ashamed. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point
[FairfieldLife] Antarctic Peninsula in 'dramatic' ice loss
“..since when they have been losing on the order of 56 billion tonnes of ice a year to the ocean.” http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32837201 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32837201 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : The BBC: We need a radical plan. Direct action. I am surprized that the sustainable living movement has not taken more vigorous social action on this. Like, back in the Vietnam War days we closed interstates and threw bricks through General Motors auto showrooms and smashed the glass out of entire lots of new cars to end the war and bring our brothers home. Yep, the old way was tilting at windmills but I'd be in favor of a sabre charge at railway workers and their locomotives now who haul the coal to the coal-fired utility electric generators. They are the problem along with non-meditation and non-meditators. Just ending the train horns blown as the trains pass through Fairfield sounds positively effeminate compared to sitting down in front of trains or derailing them to stop the endless flow of coal through town that powers our destruction. Yep, coal-train railway workers and locomotives are all our enemy now. https://www.google.com/search?q=gas+powered+chop+sawhl=entbo=ubiw=1366bih=635source=univtbm=shopsa=Xei=YFy9UO2lIKfi2gXCr4Bwsqi=2ved=0CE4Qsxg ..it's as if no-one is listening to the scientific community, said Corinne Le Quere, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia. Yep, and what on earth are they teaching in the sustainable living programs around the country? Any teaching of the history of direct action? Is there even a SDS movement anymore? Teach-ins on how to lobby change with sit-ins? Any seminars or hands-on workshops yet at the college level on how to derail coal trains? When is the indolent youth going to wake up and demand that we all make the Earth First! ? I am worried that the risks of dangerous climate change are too high on our current emissions trajectory, Prof Le Quere said. The rusting remains of a train derailed using Garland's explosive techniques Continue reading the main story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20594835#story_continues_1 Related Stories Lawrence of Arabia letter found http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lincolnshire/8696015.stm Lawrence of Arabia 'finest epic' http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3645937.stm The overlooked scientist whose expertise helped Lawrence of Arabia's desert campaign during World War I is going to be remembered in a bid to rewrite the Lawrence movie legend. The chemist Herbert Garland used his scientific knowledge to teach Thomas Lawrence how to blow up railway lines. The Royal Society of Chemistry wants the behind-the-line heroism of the scientist to be remembered. The Lawrence of Arabia movie is marking its 50th anniversary next week. The military and political achievements of Thomas Lawrence - remembered as TE Lawrence or Lawrence of Arabia - were depicted in David Lean's iconic movie, first screened on 10 December 1962. Moving trains But the Royal Society of Chemistry says there was a key element missing from the plot - the role of scientist Herbert Garland, who helped to develop techniques for blowing up rail lines to disrupt enemy troop movements and supplies. Recently, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) reported that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere hit a new record high in 2011. Data show that global CO2 emissions in 2012 hit 35.6bn tonnes, a 2.6% increase from 2011 and 58% above 1990 levels. In its annual Greenhouse Gas Bulletin, the organisation said that carbon dioxide levels reached 391 parts per million in 2011. The report estimated that carbon dioxide (CO2) accounted for 85% of the radiative forcing that led to global temperature rises. Other potent greenhouse gases such as methane also recorded new highs, according to the WMO report. Non-meditators are the real carbon polluters behind the destruction of the global climate. Well you know a positive scientific case could be made that spiritual people who are regular meditators and especially meditating on the Invincible American course are much less responsible for global climate change than the average non-meditating American or any other first world or developing nation peoples.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Antarctic Peninsula in 'dramatic' ice loss
Jeezus Christmas, I load my little Ford Ranger with a tonne of hay and I got “People for the Ethical Treatment of Equipment” on may case. 56 billion tonnes of ice a year? Melted off in to the oceans? Hard to fathom by comparison. Something's got to change or we are burnt toast. But this certainly relates to meditation and FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : “..since when they have been losing on the order of 56 billion tonnes of ice a year to the ocean.” http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32837201 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32837201 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : The BBC: We need a radical plan. Direct action. I am surprized that the sustainable living movement has not taken more vigorous social action on this. Like, back in the Vietnam War days we closed interstates and threw bricks through General Motors auto showrooms and smashed the glass out of entire lots of new cars to end the war and bring our brothers home. Yep, the old way was tilting at windmills but I'd be in favor of a sabre charge at railway workers and their locomotives now who haul the coal to the coal-fired utility electric generators. They are the problem along with non-meditation and non-meditators. Just ending the train horns blown as the trains pass through Fairfield sounds positively effeminate compared to sitting down in front of trains or derailing them to stop the endless flow of coal through town that powers our destruction. Yep, coal-train railway workers and locomotives are all our enemy now. https://www.google.com/search?q=gas+powered+chop+sawhl=entbo=ubiw=1366bih=635source=univtbm=shopsa=Xei=YFy9UO2lIKfi2gXCr4Bwsqi=2ved=0CE4Qsxg ..it's as if no-one is listening to the scientific community, said Corinne Le Quere, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia. Yep, and what on earth are they teaching in the sustainable living programs around the country? Any teaching of the history of direct action? Is there even a SDS movement anymore? Teach-ins on how to lobby change with sit-ins? Any seminars or hands-on workshops yet at the college level on how to derail coal trains? When is the indolent youth going to wake up and demand that we all make the Earth First! ? I am worried that the risks of dangerous climate change are too high on our current emissions trajectory, Prof Le Quere said. The rusting remains of a train derailed using Garland's explosive techniques Continue reading the main story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20594835#story_continues_1 Related Stories Lawrence of Arabia letter found http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lincolnshire/8696015.stm Lawrence of Arabia 'finest epic' http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3645937.stm The overlooked scientist whose expertise helped Lawrence of Arabia's desert campaign during World War I is going to be remembered in a bid to rewrite the Lawrence movie legend. The chemist Herbert Garland used his scientific knowledge to teach Thomas Lawrence how to blow up railway lines. The Royal Society of Chemistry wants the behind-the-line heroism of the scientist to be remembered. The Lawrence of Arabia movie is marking its 50th anniversary next week. The military and political achievements of Thomas Lawrence - remembered as TE Lawrence or Lawrence of Arabia - were depicted in David Lean's iconic movie, first screened on 10 December 1962. Moving trains But the Royal Society of Chemistry says there was a key element missing from the plot - the role of scientist Herbert Garland, who helped to develop techniques for blowing up rail lines to disrupt enemy troop movements and supplies. Recently, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) reported that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere hit a new record high in 2011. Data show that global CO2 emissions in 2012 hit 35.6bn tonnes, a 2.6% increase from 2011 and 58% above 1990 levels. In its annual Greenhouse Gas Bulletin, the organisation said that carbon dioxide levels reached 391 parts per million in 2011. The report estimated that carbon dioxide (CO2) accounted for 85% of the radiative forcing that led to global temperature rises. Other potent greenhouse gases such as methane also recorded new highs, according to the WMO report. Non-meditators are the real carbon polluters behind the
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Well, Johnson got a lot of legislation passed. He knew how to deal and had the leverage to do it. He did not use the concepts of transcendent or dharma in that speech. He never struck me as a spiritual person and his use of the word 'God' in the speech seems the perfunctory inclusion that seems to be required in American politics. And probably he only touched up a speech written by his speech writers anyway. And he was a racist in spite of all of that: Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist. | | | | | | | | | | | Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racis...Lyndon Johnson was a racist. He was also the greatest champion of racial equality to occupy the White House since Lincoln. | | | | View on www.msnbc.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | The office a man holds sometimes allows him to rise above his baser instincts. However in spite of all this, the events of the last half year or so show that what he accomplished has not erased the problems of race or poverty, of inequality; if anything they have taken on a more intense and subtle mantle of discord in this country. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology LBJ is actually a good exampleof the rhetoric of leadership within millenarian revolution. [notice spelling with one 'n', not millennial] change. For instance LBJ's articulationof transcendent and larger promises in America of an evolvingdharma-like progression of equal rights for all. Gathering peoplein, see what and how he said it. Read a few of the first fewparagraphs where he lays things out and see how he reaches for it inrhetoric. He was quite successful with “The Great Society” andthen with civil rights and voting rights legislation in turn. Was aremarkable point of leadership in broad cultural change. Time was ripeand he led rhetorically. Text of “The AmericanPromise”.. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 || || President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15,... President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 [As delivered in person before a joint session at 9:02 p.m.] || | View on www.lbjlib.utexas.edu |Preview by Yahoo| || You can watch him deliver it on YouTube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NvPhiuGZ6I ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Anartaxiussays here that millenarians, 'they seem to never take the directionand form intended'. Never? It could be well argued that these fourmillenarians created broad and lasting cultural changes, forinstance. It is informative in an examination of organizations andtheir sociology to look at how in leadership they went about doingit, by contrast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism)is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movementin a coming major transformation of society, after which all thingswill be changed. Millennialism [by contrast] isa specific form of millenarianism based on a one-thousand-year cycle,which many sects of different religions believe. AChaney, Princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Millenarianism.html Revolutionary as an adjective, the term revolutionary refers to something that has amajor,
[FairfieldLife] New Info Lehigh Valley
New center in Bethlehem PA -- Contact: Nancy List. Tel: 610-698-8400; nl...@tm.org Meditation Center to Open in Downtown Bethlehem May 4, 2015 Bethlehem, PA In response to growing nationwide and local interest in meditation, and with the generous donation of new building owners Borko Milosev and Peter S., Tom and Nancy List are announcing the opening of their new downtown Transcendental Meditation (TM) Center. Located at 65 East Elizabeth Ave., Suite 506, Bethlehem, this TM® Center will serve Allentown, Easton, and Bethlehem. To inaugurate the new Center’s activities, a free, public, Introductory Lecture on the Transcendental Meditation technique will be held on Sunday, May 10th, at 1:00 pm. Access to the Center is via the entrance and parking lot on the north side of the building. The Lists have been teachers of the TM technique since the ‘70s, have lived in the Reading area for well over 20 years, and have already taught more than 600 residents. Tom is also a recently retired industrial electrician at the Car Tech Steel Plant, and Nancy is a retired realtor. “We are very excited to be opening the Lehigh Valley Transcendental Meditation Center in Bethlehem,” says Nancy, who already runs another TM Center at 920 Imperial Drive, Mohnton, PA 19540. (Find out more at http://www.tm.org/transcendental-meditation-reading or call (610) 698-8400.) What is Transcendental Meditation? Transcendental Meditation is a simple, natural, effortless technique practiced 20 minutes twice each day, while sitting comfortably with the eyes closed. It is easy to learn and enjoyable to practice and is not a religion, philosophy, or lifestyle. Many physicians prescribe TM to their patients. Gary Kaplan, M.D., neurologist at NYU Medical School says, “People who come to me for relief from stress and stress-related disorders need an effective meditation that’s quickly mastered and produces consistent results. TM does not require any form of concentration or contemplation and allows the mind to settle deeply inward in a natural way. TM teachers call this effortless transcending. It’s what sets TM apart and why the technique is so beneficial for mind and body, right from the start.” More than 380 peer-reviewed research studies on the TM technique have been published in 160 scientific journals. These studies were conducted at over 200 universities and research centers, including Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School, Yale Medical School, UCLA Medical School, and Medical College of Georgia. In June 2013, the American Heart Association concluded that the TM technique is the only meditation practice that has been shown to lower blood pressure and recommends that TM may be considered in clinical practice for the prevention and treatment of hypertension. PAGE 1 OF 2 l CONTINUED ON NEXT PAGE PAGE 2 OF 2 l CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS PAGE Who practices TM? Over six million people have learned TM — people of all ages, cultures, and religions. They include celebrities like Ellen DeGeneres, David Lynch, Jerry Seinfeld, Katy Perry, Cameron Diaz, as well as medical practitioners like Dr. Suzanne Steinbaum, Lenox Hospital cardiologist and host of “Focus On Health”; journalists Cynthia McFadden and George Stephanopoulos of ABC; former CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley; and Arianna Huffington, editor-in-chief of The Huffington Post. Retired Sr. Systems Analyst for AAA Jim Conroy, of Brodheadsville, says, Practicing TM in the AM and the PM gives me energy and releases the stresses of daily life. The Lists’ TM Center near Reading, PA is located at 920 Imperial Drive, Mohnton, PA 19540. Find out more at http://www.tm.org/transcendental-meditation-reading or call 610-698-8400. © 2015 Maharishi Foundation USA, a non-profit educational organization. All rights reserved. Transcendental Meditation® and TM® are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission. ###
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
I can't help reflect on it Richard. I would say that as far as Barry, Salyavin and Michael area concerned, it is, all about Buck. It's the FFL version of groundhog day. Buck posts the same comment every day, and these three, along with anataxius respond to it, as if it's the first time they've heard it. But, this is their version of, (genuflect), content Barry made his grand policy statement a few weeks ago about swearing off Doug, but, I think he discovered that, oops, he didn't have anything to talk about. He's probably posted all the atheist cartoons available, lampooning theists, so I guess he's circling back to his same old, same old. Ya gotta love him, though, in his own way. Always True To You In My Fashion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WGkx1MYDQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WGkx1MYDQ Always True To You In My Fashion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WGkx1MYDQ Ann Miller and Tommy Rall singing Always True To You In My Fashion From Kiss Me Kate No copyright infringement intended View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WGkx1MYDQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : It's a clear case of transference, Steve - everyone knows that Barry has been, and probably still is, in a cult of Rama and now he feels guilty about it and wants to transfer his cognitive dissonce onto Buck. The question is, was Barry forced into working for the cult or did he volunteer? Apparently nobody forced him to give up all that money. Go figure. Most of the stuff Barry says about cults is misinformation and junk science that has been debunked years ago by social scientists. If cult brainwashing worked we could use it on our criminals in our prisons. If brainwashing works, then we can assume that Barry was himself brainwashed. Then the question becomes is Barry still under the spell of the, now dead, cult leader and still covertly working for the cult? Quoting steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com: Yes, we get to hear the same sermon which Barry has delivered 2000 times before. The self appointed anti cult czar. This is what constitutes content for Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : At least Doug is inspiring interesting replies, which partially accounts for FFL having at least 3 times the number of posts as The Peak since about May 17. The contrast of viewpoints is the driver of inspiration in some and displeasure in others. In scientific discussions, people argue and eventually some headway is made. In spiritual circles, people argue and little headway is ever made because the arguments are over imaginary things instead of real things. If spirituality ever really adopted evidence for its claims, progress could be made in settling many points of dispute. There is a certain lack of honesty that permeates spiritual discourse. A note (published in 1794) by Thomas Paine, one of the instigators of the American Revolution, regarding religious thinking (Paine was something of a Deist by the way, not an atheist): 'All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.' 'It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime. He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain, and, in order to qualify himself for that trade, he begins with a perjury. Can we conceive anything more destructive to morality than this?' From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies What Doug fails to understand -- yet again -- is that you don't protect people from conspiracy theories by moderating (Buck's word for banning) those claims. You protect people by raising their awareness of how to think without falling
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Culture of Organizational Groups/Sociology
Yep,residing in that great transcendence of inalienable human right I say, 'Jai! Lyndon Banes Johnson'! As I say 'Jai Maharishi Mahesh Yogi! Maharishi saying, Anyone who can think, can meditate. Jai! for both of their coming along and having pluck enough as millenarists and revolutionaries to stand forward in our times. Evidently at a time LBJ was quite successful with his Great Society and quite evidently with a lasting effect. LBJ: Our mission is at once the oldest and the most basic of this country: to right wrong, to do justice, to serve man. I urge every member of both parties, Americans of all religions and of all colors, from every section of this country, to join me in that cause. “And should we defeat every enemy, should we double our wealth and conquer the stars, and still be unequal to this issue, then we will have failed as a people and as a nation. For with a country as with a person, What is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul ? “This was the first nation in the history of the world to be founded with a purpose. The great phrases of that purpose still sound in every American heart, North and South: All men are created equal—government by consent of the governed—give me liberty or give me death. Well, those are not just clever words, or those are not just empty theories. In their name Americans have fought and died for two centuries,” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : LBJ is actually a good example of the rhetoric of leadership within millenarian revolution. [notice spelling with one 'n', not millennial] change. For instance LBJ's articulation of transcendent and larger promises in America of an evolving dharma-like progression of equal rights for all. Gathering people in, see what and how he said it. Read a few of the first few paragraphs where he lays things out and see how he reaches for it in rhetoric. He was quite successful with “The Great Society” and then with civil rights and voting rights legislation in turn. Was a remarkable point of leadership in broad cultural change. Time was ripe and he led rhetorically. Text of “The American Promise”.. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15,... http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp President Lyndon B. Johnson's Special Message to the Congress: The American Promise March 15, 1965 [As delivered in person before a joint session at 9:02 p.m.] View on www.lbjlib.utexas.edu http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650315.asp Preview by Yahoo You can watch him deliver it on YouTube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NvPhiuGZ6I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NvPhiuGZ6I ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Anartaxius says here that millenarians, 'they seem to never take the direction and form intended'. Never? It could be well argued that these four millenarians created broad and lasting cultural changes, for instance. It is informative in an examination of organizations and their sociology to look at how in leadership they went about doing it, by contrast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Yes, Doug, but transformations occur in society almost as a matter of course, but they never seem to take the direction and character that those who believed there was an upcoming transition would have it. So having a belief, which is a pretence to knowledge, one's imagination of what might be or is, is simply a superfluous mental attitude that traps the mind in a particular rut while the world goes on its merry way. Obviously these beliefs, even if they are wrong which they tend to be, do have an influence on the progress of change because they alter a person's behaviour, but the underlying forces of change are not concerned with imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Mao, Maharishi with his 'Ideal Society', even LBj with his 'Great Society', also Roosevelt and the 'New Deal' by effect in culture were the larger 'revolutionary millenarians' of the last Century with their leadership towards creating 'Heavens on Earth'. As a study I find it informative to look at their speeches for the language that activated people and brought people along in revolution, by contrast with a TM movement of this Century which in its own character of leadership has been unable and in decline for 40 years. The contrast around 'inclusiveness' is stark. Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart and liar. The Jesse Ventura incident - bs. The story of himself and two other SEALS killing 30 looters in New Orleans from atop the Superdome - bs. And his tale of killing two carjackers and the cops turning him loose when they realized who he was - total bs. If he had to fabricate such stories to make himself look good, how accurate can his war record be? And before you go to squalling about it, the kill record of the snipers rely a good deal on the testimony of the snipers themselves. And none of the records are considered official by the army. its just a bragging rights thing. If you read the book, you will find some of the most telling aspects of Kyle's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less Than Clint | | | | | | | | | | | AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less ...Another terrible, inept movie from an American cinema legend. | | | | View on birthmoviesdeath.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Or maybe wanted to see a movie that wasn't about comic book heroes or talking pandas. ;-) But for the record I like Eastwood's films so I'll probably watch this one too. On 05/21/2015 11:35 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Yup, snakey is a pretty good description of the cheesy corporate heads responsible. On 05/21/2015 03:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Maybe some of those snakey people chewed through that oil pipeline in California that is leaking. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:34 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a conspiracytheory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a government competent enough to pull off complex projects. If this crime had been suspected because of unexpected fluctuations in exchange rates and you had said a group of bankers were illegally manipulating the currency markets, that would also be a conspiracy theory but because we'd have an effect (mysterious money making) and a cause (greedy bankers) it wouldn't raise too many eyebrows. And is also quite easy to unravel. It's the willing invention of unnecessary elements that sets the two apart. I'm sure we can all now go through recent and historical happenings and apply this law of not multiplying entities. For instance, a bunch of Islamic fighters, well armed, funded and organised had a plot to attack America. Lacking the sort of weapons needed to cross the Atlantic they got creative and hijacked a few planes... you know the rest, just don't add anything that isn't needed. http://news.yahoo.com/banks-fined-2-5-billion-plead-guilty-market-140814112.html http://news.yahoo.com/banks-fined-2-5-billion-plead-guilty-market-140814112.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
You saying the emperor has clothes! :-D On 05/21/2015 04:29 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *Yep, conspiracy theorizing is sort of like nicotine to an addiction to harder things that become perniciously asocial like, “*The most unbalanced members of a society, when exposed to these ideas, can be driven to commit terrible acts, including assault and mass murder”.Conspiracy theorizing should be moderated by everyone for everyone's protection. A strong protection against conspiracy theorists is in a vital and strong free public education for all citizens, at the least, that starts early and is sustained in to adulthood providing the critical skill-sets to have a more widely informed citizenry. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject. Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure. That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL? /* *The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to an addiction. Once one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—a return to balanced, sound thinking—is rare. What motivates a person to immerse himself in them in the first place?* * * *Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. /No one realizes what’s going on/, he thinks.* * * *If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him.* Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html image http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html A Magazine Restoring Plain Understanding View on realtruth.org http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Preview by Yahoo *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a conspiracytheory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a government competent enough to pull off complex projects. */ /* */Exactly. Conspiracies that stand the test of Occam's Razor have a chance of having happened, because one does not have to invent irrational and unprovable things to believe in them. Conspiracy theories require the person who believes in them to invest in things that cannot meet the Occam's Razor test (because there are simpler and more likely explanations) and require the believer to invest in the existence of complex add-ons to reality that cannot be proven to exist. /* */ /* */The worst part about conspiracy theories IMO is that they are addictive. There have been many studies showing that the moment someone suspends belief in the rational and invests in one conspiracy theories, they are much more likely to believe the next conspiracy theory presented to them. Preferring irrational beliefs that cannot pass the Occam's Razor test becomes a habit, so what you wind up with is the people who flock to radio and TV shows that basically present nothing *but* conspiracy theories. And the audiences, having now put on the mindset of believing the unbelievable and turning off their discrimination, tune in every day to find out the next unlikely thing they're supposed to feel all elite and special for knowing. /* */ /* */In other words, conspiracy theories are a drug, those who believe in them are junkies, and those who promote
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies
Somebody thinks they are sane? Now there's a real form of narcissism. And of course where there was a lot of money involved those same conspirators will spend a lot of money on psychological programs to make the public look on those who might be figuring things out or speculating a scenario too close to uncovering their crime as conspiracy theorists. Wow, some people get brainwashed by cults and realize it after awhile but some of them fail to realize when they've been duped by governments and corporations. What a Divine Comedy. :-D On 05/21/2015 01:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Re: Conspiracy theories as addiction, here's an article on the very subject. Interestingly enough, the article -- sane and surprisingly sanely written until you get to the last section -- appears on a class-A conspiracy site. Go figure. That said, doesn't this quote sound familiar? How many times have we heard the word sheeple used by conspiracy theory addicts here on FFL? /* *The obsession with conspiracy theories has been compared to an addiction. Once one has delved deeply into this mindset, recovery—a return to balanced, sound thinking—is rare. What motivates a person to immerse himself in them in the first place?* * * ** *Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. /No one realizes what’s going on/, he thinks.* * * ** *If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him.* Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html image http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Why Conspiracy Theories? http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html A Magazine Restoring Plain Understanding View on realtruth.org http://realtruth.org/articles/110203-001-society.html Preview by Yahoo *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who don't believe in conspiracies *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : One big one announced today. You and I do this we go to jail. The banksters get a light fine. Their CEOs should be in prison and banks broken up. There isn't anyone who doesn't believe there are conspiracies. If you were to tell me this was a plot by a secret shadow government to help their reptilian overlords gain more power in the world then I would say you were speculating beyond what is required for a satisfactory explanation. That would be a conspiracytheory. Though not a very good one as it involves things we don't know anything about and have no knowledge of, like reptilian aliens and a government competent enough to pull off complex projects. */ /* */Exactly. Conspiracies that stand the test of Occam's Razor have a chance of having happened, because one does not have to invent irrational and unprovable things to believe in them. Conspiracy theories require the person who believes in them to invest in things that cannot meet the Occam's Razor test (because there are simpler and more likely explanations) and require the believer to invest in the existence of complex add-ons to reality that cannot be proven to exist. /* */ /* */The worst part about conspiracy theories IMO is that they are addictive. There have been many studies showing that the moment someone suspends belief in the rational and invests in one conspiracy theories, they are much more likely to believe the next conspiracy theory presented to them. Preferring irrational beliefs that cannot pass the Occam's Razor test becomes a habit, so what you wind up with is the people who flock to radio and TV shows that basically present nothing *but* conspiracy theories. And the audiences, having now put on the mindset of believing the unbelievable and turning off their discrimination, tune in every day to find out the next unlikely thing they're supposed to feel all elite and special for knowing. /* */ /* */In other words, conspiracy theories are a drug, those who believe in them are junkies, and those who promote them are pushers. /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Princess Charlotte of Cambridge
Been noticing for some time. They make the place entertaining in their own way. ;-) On 05/20/2015 08:30 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: thanks for noticing (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You guys act like a trio of cranky old men who've been locked up in a mental institution. Oh that's right this is the Funny Farm Lounge though some of the prior inmates have been moved to another ward. ;-) Derek will be along with your medication any time now. On 05/20/2015 02:23 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : It all depends on how you look at things. Icke is in the business of shocking people. So, you have to understand what his motivations are--money, fame, notoriety, entertainment, sex, or whatever. From what I understand, I don't believe he's interested in higher consciousness. David Icke had a severe mental breakdown. He thought he was the son of god (common psychotic delusion) and thought that wearing a purple tracksuit would spare him and his family from god's wrath. He also made loads of predictions, none of which came true. Prior to discovering his true mission in life he was a goalkeeper and then TV sports commentator before he had his vision. While everyone else was laughing at him I felt sorry for him. His mind had cracked and he didn't know what to do with the drivel that was pouring forth from his unconscious. A lot of what he says is pure paranoia, unfortunately there are plenty of things going on in the world that are very dodgy so anyone with a penchant for wild stories about what they are up to will get enough of a hit rate to convince a few lonely souls that they're onto something. He is of course a multi-millionaire from his endless lectures and it kind of worries me that so many people who never learned a critical way of judging evidence are convinced by him. Having a dream about aliens and then meeting a new age channeller who confirms what you saw is not evidence. Some of what he says politically I agree with but it isn't like he's the only commentator on Earth who thinks that the Palestinians have got a raw deal. I do think he's dangerous though, mainly because there are growing numbers of people who believe that the world is run by a secret cabal of shape shifting reptiles from outer space. Are these people allowed to vote? And given that Icke's main message is one of breaking free from social conditioning, isn't it ironic that they got suckered by this and are therefore must be the most easily manipulated people out there? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Jr are you saying you give credence to David Icke's stuff??? And what would David Icke make of John? */I suspect he'd see him the same way we do -- dysfunctional. :-)/* *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:15 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Princess Charlotte of Cambridge Salyavin, David Icke states in his lectures and books that the present queen of England is one of the reptilian life forms who have taken over the power positions in the world. Yes, even George W. Bush is considered to be one of them. David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke David Vaughan Icke (/aɪk/; IKE, born 29 April 1952) is an English writer, public speaker and a former professional footballer and sports broadcaster. He ... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke Preview by Yahoo Also, it is interesting to note that the jyotish charts of the grandparents (Prince Charles and Princess Diana) and parents (Prince William, Duke of Cambridge and Duchess Katherine) of Princess Charlotte have the conjunction of the Moon and Rahu/Ketu. As you know, Rahu/Ketu is considered to be a snake, a reptile in vedic lore. Is it possible that jyotish can identify the reptilian people who are living here on earth? Is it possible that Nature is apparently allowing these reptilians to incarnate in the world to rule over it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Yeah, I watched it last night... again. It's a great film but it isn't
chic(sheik) or PC to admit it. Actually, it's fashionable among libs to
ridicule it. Got to get that Muslim vote! Of course American Muslims hate it
because they say it's anti-Muslim. Anti-Muslim because it shows the greatest
American sniper killing Terrorists( who happen to be Muslims) in order to
prevent the deaths of Marines taking Fallujah and Sadr City in order to
stabilize Iraq. I guess they wanted him to talk the terrorists out of their
attacks. Hmmm... all that effort and all those lives and limbs for nothing.
American Sniper got good reviews in Baghdad with cheers for each kill from many
in the audience. However, it had to be closed down the first week due to
terroristic threats.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film?
I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film
Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
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[FairfieldLife] Money for Nothing....
A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on TM-Free this afternoon. The most interesting bit for me is this: ...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that: '...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving donations of - ed. note] $429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of the daily performance' That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And doesn't every country have one of those? I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move anyway! I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that - at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that? Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's legal fees. I'd love to know the full amount raised world-wide. In the UK people buy each other yagya for birthdays. If someone is ill they get a yagya. If they move house - yagya. Looking for work - yagya. An astonishing amount of money must be flowing in to an organisation that is supposedly based on scientific principles. I haven't heard David Lynch talk about this, he probably knows it's embarrassing and keeps quiet to avoid bad publicity. I certainly would but it undermines so much that I just couldn't. Give this criminal enterprise a thorough public airing and the whole house of cards will come down.
[FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film? I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Money for Nothing....
Ahh, Sal, how I love to read your posts! And yet the TMO hucksters still plead
poverty and claim they are non-profit!!!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:35 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Money for Nothing
A brief post about the TMO's shameless money raising techniques appeared on
TM-Free this afternoon.
The most interesting bit for me is this:
...a TMO email from December 18, 2013 states that:
'...the National Yagya program is now averaging [i.e., receiving
donations of - ed. note]
$429,000 USD per monthThe whole world is enjoying the blessings of
the daily
performance'
That's $5,148,000 a year income for the 'National Yagya program' alone
I've always wondered how much they get from selling obviously ineffectual
prayers, and here it is but this is just the national yagya programme. And
doesn't every country have one of those?
I know a great many people who have given large amounts of cash to the yagya
office, recently Skelmersdale raised 10's of thousands for yagyas to find them
a vastu site and it didn't work! And then they decided they didn't want to move
anyway!
I never gave a penny to what is an obvious scam but is it a malicious one? I
used to think it's all folie a deux - a shared delusion. And then I saw John
Hagelin's latest yagya rip-off video and realised that anyone with any sort of
clue about subatomic physics will know that chanting at quarks and electrons
isn't going to change how they work. Not even a little bit. So we know that -
at least at the top level - it's a malicious attempt to get devotees to part
with hard-earned cash. What sort of organisation would do that?
Anyway, part with it they do it seems. $5,000,000 is big money, you could buy a
lot of crowns or peace palaces with that. Heck, you could probably pay Girish's
legal fees.
I'd love to know the full amount raised world-wide. In the UK people buy each
other yagya for birthdays. If someone is ill they get a yagya. If they move
house - yagya. Looking for work - yagya. An astonishing amount of money must be
flowing in to an organisation that is supposedly based on scientific
principles. I haven't heard David Lynch talk about this, he probably knows it's
embarrassing and keeps quiet to avoid bad publicity. I certainly would but it
undermines so much that I just couldn't. Give this criminal enterprise a
thorough public airing and the whole house of cards will come down.
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[FairfieldLife] Creating Coherence
Following up on the theme of the Movement claiming to create coherence, I looked at this deal the Movement claims for the Taste of Utopia course, the effects I mean. They claim all these effects in different parts of the world such as: - 50% decreased air traffic fatalities globally compared with the previous five year period (p =.0001) - 41.6% fewer road traffic fatalities seen in the USA than the mean for the prior 16 years. Fewer than expected traffic fatalities also occurred in South Africa (20%) and the Australian states of New South Wales, Victoria, and Western Australia, (11%) compared with the same time of year in previous years(p =.0001) - Decreased crime observed in Washington DC (4%), Karachi in Pakistan (16%) and in the State of Victoria, Australia (13%), (p =.02). The comparison was with crime occurrences for the 24 weeks prior to the three week project and for 3 weeks afterwards. In looking at the event in that time period, I think its interesting they seem to ignore: December, 1983 17th - Disco in Madrid catches fire; 83 die17th - The Provisional IRA bombs Harrods department store in London, killing six people and injuring 9026th - USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakh/Semipalitinsk USSR 27th - Propane gas fire devastated 16 blocks of Buffalo 31st - Nigeria's National Assembly dissolves after military coup And that was just December of '83.
