[FairfieldLife] Outta the no go zone...

2017-03-02 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] 


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODw7o34Vdbk 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODw7o34Vdbk

 

 Today while visiting Rinkeby, a "problem area" in Stockholm, we had to be 
"escorted" out by police as many men were getting agitated by our presence.

The gist of the story is that the police advised us to leave and then said it 
would be smart to follow us to our car. They did not know where we had parked 
but are now claiming it was a coincidence that they followed us and was not an 
escort.

It is safe to say that Stockholm is much more dangerous than Malmo.

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[FairfieldLife] basis of morals

2017-03-02 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Atheists AronRa and Matt Dillahunty take on a caller questioning Matt's 
statement that adherence to reality is an asset when making decisions relating 
to well being.  The process involves correct knowledge preferably based on 
testable assertions
 Other segments carry the Theist arguments to an extreme.  Their arguments go 
like this:
 1. Atheists make a claim that moral values have evolved over time, and are 
thus not absolute.
 2. Theists reply that since moral values without God are subject to change, 
one needs an absolute basis for judgment coming for am All-Knowing, All-Loving 
Creator who is the Lawgiver and Source of Absolute morals.
 3. Atheists reply that a. the existence of the Creator-God is questionable 
since there's no direct evidence,
 .b. the problem of evil (especially the questions raised by Epicurus).
  c. the question of which God is "true" one
 .d. the Bible-based statements demonstrating that the Judaeo-Christian 
condoned slavery and 
 .actually sanctioned it (Cf. Exodus 21), and also condoned and 
promoted stoning for a variety of 
 .offences such as adultery, working on the Sabbath, and for unruly 
children.
 
 Can the debate be applied to TM? Yes, at least the TMO has tried to make the 
connection between the practice of TM and one's well-being.  Parameters such as 
blood pressure and brain waves are the low-hanging fruit and haven't countered 
the effect of control  techniques such as Mindfulness.
 
 Ironically, advances connecting meditation to morals have been made outside 
the TM Movement by people like Sam Harris; and a stronger case is made when 
introducing the evidence relating to the Polyvagal nervous system.  Finally, 
the TMO needs a stronger connection to Compassion, not merely a few lip-service 
statements by MMY. A 3 min video.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ljqgf4CA 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ljqgf4CA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

2017-03-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
Shaktipat is actually quite easy as some of the folks who learned it 
form the traveling gurus who visited Fairfield and taught it was well as 
those who went to India to learn it from another traveling show.  I 
learned from my tantra guru. However there are some qualifications for 
giving it out and avoiding depleting one's self of shakti.


As I have said before, we were taught to give out beej mantras (the "a" 
is silent in Hindi) because they don't actually require activation.  The 
puja probably helps.  Some people might not get results but even with 
the puja some people did not get results.  I also know someone who got 
shaktipat and the Shiva mantra at a Muktananda SYDA center and had no 
results. He was even from a spiritual family (parents were 
Rosicrucian).  So mileage may vary.


TM didn't keep up with the times.  Back in the 1960s folks were used to 
going to courses in evenings (starting a 8 PM not 6 PM). But nowadays a 
simpler weekend course should suffice which what other paths do.


On 03/02/2017 04:40 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Thx, (somebody put in "Meissner-like").  That's a good thing, since 
the actual Meissner effect is an observable electromagnetic field.


Wasn't the "ME" previously called the "Maharishi-Effect"?  How ridiculous!

But I suppose that Meissner-like is ok with the "like" qualifier; i.e. 
an unobservable Shakti effect that people can feel especially when 
radiated by certain Gurus (like Muktananda)  through "Shaktipat".


Instead of attempting to appropriate a sense of scientific validity by 
using scientific jargon, just call it what it is:  Shakti.


Anybody meditating over a relatively short time should have developed 
in internal "Shakti meter" than enables them to discern the Shakti, 
especially when the Shakti is highly concentrated (such as the Domes 
perhaps).


Since I've never been in a Dome, I can't testify to that, but I've 
been in other places such as the 'Ramakrishna Vedanta Temple in Hollywood.




On another topic, tampering with TM in an attempt to make it more 
"palatable" to those unfamiliar with it, may easily backfire.  Since, 
if one eliminates the puja in a bogus attempt to say that TM has no 
religious roots, a major source of Shakti is eliminated.


Simply learning the mantras from a book will eliminate the Shakti 
altogether, although a small remnant may remain in certain mantras 
such as "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA"., and the Shakti may be magnified by tuning 
into the Youtube presentations of experienced Pundits chanting that 
and other mantras.


SHALOM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

2017-03-02 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Thx, (somebody put in "Meissner-like").  That's a good thing, since the actual 
Meissner effect is an observable electromagnetic field.
 Wasn't the "ME" previously called the "Maharishi-Effect"?  How ridiculous!
 But I suppose that Meissner-like is ok with the "like" qualifier; i.e. an 
unobservable Shakti effect that people can feel especially when radiated by 
certain Gurus (like Muktananda)  through "Shaktipat".
 Instead of attempting to appropriate a sense of scientific validity by using 
scientific jargon, just call it what it is:  Shakti.
 Anybody meditating over a relatively short time should have developed in 
internal "Shakti meter" than enables them to discern the Shakti, especially 
when the Shakti is highly concentrated (such as the Domes perhaps).
 Since I've never been in a Dome, I can't testify to that, but I've been in 
other places such as the 'Ramakrishna Vedanta Temple in Hollywood.
 
 On another topic, tampering with TM in an attempt to make it more "palatable" 
to those unfamiliar with it, may easily backfire.  Since, if one eliminates the 
puja in a bogus attempt to say that TM has no religious roots, a major source 
of Shakti is eliminated.
 Simply learning the mantras from a book will eliminate the Shakti altogether, 
although a small remnant may remain in certain mantras such as "OM NAMAH 
SHIVAYA"., and the Shakti may be magnified by tuning into the Youtube 
presentations of experienced Pundits chanting that and other mantras.
 SHALOM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

2017-03-02 Thread Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Mr. Hamilton, is there a published data set of dome numbers since the 
construction of the domes?
It would be nice to see. I am not disputing the possibility there is the stated 
effect, but that there are other correlations that are just as plausible such 
as safer cars.
The promotional PDF states, "For example, the reduction in motor vehicle 
fatality rates could not be explained by the total number of vehicle miles 
traveled, weather patterns, the proportion of young drivers, improved vehicle 
safety features, improved roadway conditions, or alcohol consumption."
But the promotional document gives no indication how those conclusions were 
arrived at. The paper needs to disprove these alternative explanations, not 
just dismiss them. Maybe they are in the full paper?
The federal government seems to think auto safety features are the reason for 
the fatality decline, which is the most plausible explanation.
There is also Journal Quality as a metric for published research.There is 
something called the h-index which is a metric used to evaluate this. The top 
Journals Nature, and Science, have an h-index of 948 and 915 respectively while 
the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks 49, not very good by comparison, 
though some journals rank 0. 
Another ranking called SJR (SCImago Journal Rank) has Nature and Science at 21 
and 13 respectively, and the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks at 0.25. 
These rankings indicate that poorer quality scientific papers get published in 
this consciousness journal, that fewer scenentists are interested in stuff 
published here. If you are a scientist, not very good, and want to be 
published, then you look for lower ranked journals to try to get published.
The journal wants almost $30 for a PDF of the full paper, which is only 
summarized by the PDF posted here. 
Does one of the scientists have a copy they could send you which you could 
post? They usually have these things on hand.
The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
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Another point, Scientific Journals are not Scripture.
But continue to meditate. The byproducts of meditation, whatever they are, are 
not as important as enlightenment.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
   
    Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  
These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 
be interesting to hear their responses. 
You did notice and open in the original post on this topic that a pdf of the 
research was included?  As replication testing of hypothesis these papers seems 
significant, like to..
The probability that the reduced trend for motor vehicle fatalities could 
simply be due to chance was reported to be 3.7 in 10 million million and for 
fatalities due to other accidents, less than 8.4 in 1 million.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There are other explanations for this outside the TM organization's universe, 
it is attributed to better vehicle construction, and now that vehicles are 
appearing that can sense potential danger, the drop in fatalities should 
continue to go down. 
Correlation is not causation. One of the problems of designing a study is 
making sure there are no other plausible explanations for an effect, something 
TM scientists are particularly adept at avoiding. 
Those years also included the beginning of the recession and included large 
fluctuations in gasoline prices, perhaps people also drove less as prices 
increased.
"Federal transportation officials

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroin deaths increase

2017-03-02 Thread srijau 
there is no "supression by Rajas" thats childish finger pointing and blame 
gaming extremely noble people who are doing more than anyone to benefit 
humanity.grow up.
 It is mostly in the USA that these kind of policies have been enacted.  
Ultimately one Raja , John Hagelin can change this policy if he wants to.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroin deaths increase

2017-03-02 Thread srijau 
Invincible america numbers have been on the decline for those years due to Raja 
Settle running out the immense amount of money, something like 100 Million that 
he spent to subsidize various groups of peoples living expenses while doing 
long program.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroin deaths increase

2017-03-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Yep, the collective force of consciousness and its suppression by the Rajas.

 Common sense looking at all the recently published research would dictate an 
immediate gutting of all the “non-compete” clauses embedded in the national 
guidelines over the group meditations facilitated by the TM movement to expand 
membership participation. Right away immediately.  
 

 It would be easier to just directly start over with a new document that is 
more bare and essential to what you need to run and administrate a TM group 
meditation.  Separate and leave all that other 'non-compete’ stuff about 
trademark enforcement over employees to an HR department to enforce with their 
lawyers.
  
 Let practitioners back into the Domes, again. Free the practitioner to 
practice meditation collectively again now.  Those members who could be 
meditators in the group should be freed from the oppression of the Rajas now.
 

 Free the meditators now to meditate together, again!
 

 rajawilliamsmith writes:   
 

 One has to take responsibility especially Rajas or in American class circles, 
politically  active or economically empowered folks , this is more serious than 
gun violence   and shares seriousness with a lot of important issues.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/12/17/drug-overdose-deaths-increased-by-33-percent-in-past-5-years.html
 
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/12/17/drug-overdose-deaths-increased-by-33-percent-in-past-5-years.html
 

 If the "good" stuff is attributable to TM, when why not the bad stuff?

[FairfieldLife] Entertaining: Last night in Sweden!

2017-03-02 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] 


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gf_wKIShs 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gf_wKIShs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroin deaths increase

2017-03-02 Thread rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
One has to take responsibility especially Rajas or in American class circles, 
politically  active or economically empowered folks , this is more serious than 
gun violence   and shares seriousness with a lot of important issues.

[FairfieldLife] Chiraq vs. Malmö (~mulm-er: malm-island?)

2017-03-02 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
Tim Pool from Chicago in Swedish Malmo (Malmö):
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfWgIrUHdDE 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfWgIrUHdDE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

2017-03-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  

 These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 
be interesting to hear their responses. 
 

 You did notice and open in the original post on this topic that a pdf of the 
research was included?
  
 As replication testing of hypothesis these papers seems significant, like to..
 

 The probability that the reduced trend for motor vehicle fatalities could 
simply be due to chance was reported to be 3.7 in 10 million million and for 
fatalities due to other accidents, less than 8.4 in 1 million.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There are other explanations for this outside the TM organization's universe, 
it is attributed to better vehicle construction, and now that vehicles are 
appearing that can sense potential danger, the drop in fatalities should 
continue to go down. 
 

 Correlation is not causation. One of the problems of designing a study is 
making sure there are no other plausible explanations for an effect, something 
TM scientists are particularly adept at avoiding. 
 

 Those years also included the beginning of the recession and included large 
fluctuations in gasoline prices, perhaps people also drove less as prices 
increased.
 

 "Federal transportation officials believe that much of the credit for saving 
lives in accidents goes to the enhanced safety systems that are now available 
in many automobiles."

 
Traffic Accident Fatalities Drop to Lowest Level in Decades 
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 It would be nice if the TM effect could be studied under more controlled 
conditions, for if it is real, then scientists, not just those in the movement, 
would take notice.
 

 As it is, these effects are not believed outside the TM movement. Outside the 
movement, movement studies are mostly regarded as poor quality science designed 
for the promotion of TM rather than the discovery of truth.
 

 As long as this situation continues, the use of science this way denigrates 
the value of TM to this audience and ultimately undermines the purpose of doing 
studies.
 

 Example: The fact I lived in the United States during this period and engaged 
in certain activities during this time not related to meditation also has the 
same correlation with the reduction of accident fatalities.
 

 What were accident statistics prior to this period, when Dome numbers were 
often much higher, such as during the big courses in the 1980s?
 

 I think meditation is valuable, but there are other factors in TM science that 
need to be eliminated before the research is solid. The quality of meditation 
research, even outside the TM sphere, tends to be low.
 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:38 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
 
 
   
 In the postmodern one would hope that public policy could be enlightened by 
science. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 These published papers  are critical replications in the correlation of 
science. The statistical significance of a 8.4 in a million chance that these 
observations are just random should not be missed on people. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Attached is a summary of a new Maharishi Effect article, just published in the 
Journal of Consciousness Studies, January-February 2017, authored by Dr. 
Kenneth Cavanaugh and Dr. Michael Dillbeck.