[FairfieldLife] In Praise of Root Vegetables

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The Kingsmen praise the root vegetables in "Jolly Green Giant"
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlUq2dCOEA 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlUq2dCOEA

[FairfieldLife] More Superpowers

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Justice League, 2017, with Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman) and Ben Afleck.  A DC 
attempt to assume dominance in the Super Power field, over Marvel. (they 
usually fail, but Wonder Woman did well). Might as well milk a cow for all it's 
worth, but risky. People may get tired of the Justice League.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n-OZBwr6Q 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n-OZBwr6Q

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[FairfieldLife] Need for Nanotechnology?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Is there a need for Nanotechnology in the transhumanist model of evolution? No. 
Kurzweil is a nutcase, and the recent series on the Natgeo channel "Year 
Million": - exploring various possibilities in the distance future, has a major 
flaw: Make that three flaws:
 

 1. First flaw is that the more desirable (for most) choice in the distant 
future would be to upload one's "consciousness" onto a virtual reality type of 
internet, while the physical body is stored someplace.
 IMO Dumbest idea I've ever heard of.  Those TV producers are assuming that 
one's identity is solely memories, and if one can tap into the brain 
mechanically, those memories constitute the "you"; and given time, technology 
will provide the means of uploading the memories into what they called The 
HIVE: (a shared virtual reality world that everybody on earth is invited to get 
into).
 

 2. Next problem: leaving the physical body behind somewhere. (this could get 
messy). Obviously inspired by the Matrix movies.  Leave me out of that world.
 

 3. Third major flaw.  It assumes that Descartes dualism (the Soul can be 
separate from the body). is false and that only Naturalism is the real model 
(that only physical matter exists as information.).  Then, their phoney logic 
jumps from the "information" part (the "you" is only the information contained 
in memories), to an eternal "you" in the HIVE world (a shared Internet virtual 
world).
 

 An alternative to the "Year Million" model of living in the Internet HIVE is 
the Sant Mat model: develop the ability to travel outside the physical body to 
anyplace in the multiverse.  Then, when the physical body naturally dies, one 
is free to live in any subtle realm (only returning to the physical world by 
choice as an Avatar).
 

 SHALOM 
 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thx, about a dozen of the Batgappers have extraordinary psychic abilities, 
impressive in my book.  As to the rest, most are boring Neo-Advaitins having 
only one message: everything is pure Consciousness. That's only one statement 
of fact, while what comes after (or before) that Realization taking place only 
once, is an Infinity of possibilities including exploration of other galaxies 
and universes. 
 As a next step on the evolutionary ladder, try shifting the focus from "Pure 
Consciousness" to Neg-Entropy, i.e. as an individual Soul, consider two 
choices: 1. Dissolving completely into Nothingness with no more further 
relative bodies. 2. Infinite continuum of evolution viewing the "Soul" (subtle 
body) as an active Agent for doing good in the world for countless eons to 
come, perhaps even forever.  
 That's the choice:
 1. No existence, or
 2  Eternal relative existence using one or more Subtle bodies.
 The notion of Lesh Avidya or whatever they call it (a remnant of ignorance 
needed to maintain a celestial relative existence), is completely bogus.  The 
Absolute can not be more or less 100% Absolute, whether there's a body there or 
not. Sustaining a body is not dependent on "Ignorance". Ramana Maharshi once 
stated that he had 20 subtle bodies operating on different planes of existence, 
simultaneously
 As a first step using the Neg-Entropic model, consider the Siddhi of out of 
body travel to anyplace in the multiverse.  That's the goal of Gurus in the 
Sant Mat Tradition, like Kirpal Singh.
 

 

  

RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:26 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

>  That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it.  I believe the 
> Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his 
> version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness.  But can 
> Rick Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has 
> broken through the barrier of mediocrity?  :)

I haven’t been looking for one, but I but I think there are lots of other 
examples of exceptionalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 


That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it.  I believe the 
Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his 
version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness.  But can Rick 
Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has broken 
through the barrier of mediocrity?  :)
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Heh!  What have yogis been doing for centuries?  These idiots who fancy 
themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way.  I have 
this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the future where 
Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine and is begging people 
to turn the machine off because he finally is tired of living.  Of course 
everyone is ignoring him.
 
 On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist movement.  
But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears capable of transcending 
itself to unite with the absolute.  So, why is AI, nanotechnology and other 
scientific gadgets necessary to improve the human brain?  What do you think?

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Heh!  What have yogis been doing for centuries?  These idiots who fancy 
themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way.  
I have this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the 
future where Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine 
and is begging people to turn the machine off because he finally is 
tired of living.  Of course everyone is ignoring him.


On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist 
movement.  But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears 
capable of transcending itself to unite with the absolute.  So, why is 
AI, nanotechnology and other scientific gadgets necessary to improve 
the human brain?  What do you think?

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From e-mail: 

 If one looks at all the criticism of the Mvmt over the years, most of it boils 
down to lack of 'development of the vertical at the expense of the horizontal.' 
That is a cerebral way to put it, development of consciousness at the expense 
of relationships, including ethics and mgmt, most of the rest boils down to the 
need for more professional training in the area concerned.
 ™’ers are not more moral or ethical. 
 We can't become a religion or ethical society by talking about ethics. That 
would not work for the Mvmt. We are here to teach transcending. But we should 
talk ethics and morals, esp ethics, among ourselves in the Mvmt. But I focus on 
mgmt for the reason I gave.
 


 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Evidently ethical behavior may not be correlated with 'development of 
consciousness'.. As in TM science research ‘moral reasoning’ is simply reduced 
and measured in standard testing as ‘quick thinking’ which apparently is not 
necessarily the same measure as ethical or compassionate behavior.  Long time 
meditators or gurus though potentially more ‘aware’ evidently are not 
necessarily more ethical. Ethical spiritual virtues evidently are felt in life 
by the human spiritual body and ethical behavior on a ‘behavioral axis’ it 
seems is cultivated differently in life by culture. Spiritually cultivated 
ethics felt and lived apparently is very much about the condition of spiritual 
life in the body (polyvagal?) and not necessarily related directly to a 
consciousness continuum of states of consciousness.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, evidently the heart of spirituality is embodied in the Polyvagal and 
affected in its expression by spiritual practices such as meditation, culture 
and epigenetic stress. 
  
It seems that In an awake conscious life, as transcendentalists call this, ‘a 
life well lived’, that ethical behavior is felt primarily by whether behavior 
enhances or withers spiritual life.  That simple. A felt discernment of a whole 
of the spiritual human system of being. 
 
 yifuxero writes: 
 Thx, the development of the Polyvagal nervous system (physical representation 
of empathy and  compassion); appears to be (or can be) somewhat independent of 
the states of Consciousness mentioned by MMY.
 Thus, it does not necessarily follow that a person in (CC, UC) is well 
developed in regard to empathy, compassion, and free from Narcissistic 
tendencies.

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Spirituality and the ‘Behavioral Axis’..

 FW: a narrative:

 “People in the meditating community are not by any means fully developed, I 
see dysfunctional, disrespectful behavior often in and out of the Dome. I see 
people having a lot of experience of CC (cosmic consciousness) who often do not 
behave like saints. I know of one man who says he went into CC in high school 
and is now full of GC, UC and BC experience and often reports them to IAA 
anonymously. I asked an employee of his what it was like to work for him. The 
employee said, "It's all about him." and “That saint does not know how to treat 
employees / people”. My spouse is a friend of the  wife, and told me that the 
saint's wife said more or less the same thing about living with him. 

 Higher states of consciousness, and being on the path of them, is not all 
there is to sainthood or life. That's one thing that has become clear esp in 
the past years. There is the behavioral axis also. Ultimately, all is one, but 
in practice, these often need to be treated as two.  Otherwise, one ends in the 
mood-making soup. Administration needs to be skilled, and ‘sainthood’ 
appreciated and guided. “
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
..
 
 Despite their zeal, in perversity they perish. 
 Om how humankind blame the Divine Pitrs.  
 From us they say comes evil, 
 but through their own perversity are more than is their due 
 they meet with sorrow.
 Forewarned, for vengeance follows.

 The opening council, Paraphrasing, 
 -Homer, The Odyssey   

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitrs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitrs
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Communal Scruples? Asking around, apparently some individuals have been 
ejected from the movement community as sexual predators, copping conning 
abusing while using jyotish, or bullying a spiritual status on their victims. 
 Some number of years ago a flamboyant guy who infamously was preying on MSAE 
age girls was threatened with arrest by a father then who was an attorney and 
the guy subsequently left Fairfield.  
 Evidently more recently some guy who had been on Purusha was using jyotish and 
spiritual specialness to sexually predate young women and also conning money, 
the guy evidently was evicted from Utopia Park and kicked off campus. 
 Another longtime predator