[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wrong. 

Most refreshing thing I've read here in a while.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   I was wrong. 
  
  Most refreshing thing I've read here in a while.
 
 
 
 ??? I'm wrong quite often.

No.  The fact that you said so, here.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
 wrote:

 I was wrong. 

 
Judy wrote:
 He does that pretty often too.  Whenever he's been
 convinced he's wrong, in fact.

That's great.  I just don't see much of that around here.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Heck, Jim, there's a bunch of chimpanzees who
 have transcended this limitation and are holding
 forth on this very forum.
 
 ;-)

Shucks, Bonzo, she's found us out.  Time to scram.



[FairfieldLife] Grand Canyon Photograper

2007-01-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
I posted a series of photos under this name in photos section.
He jumps - but does he make it?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Where do the unawakened go when they die?

2006-12-29 Thread Jeff Fischer

Nice.  Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 'You are not walking around in a body:
 The body is walking around while you are in it.'
 
 
 As far as I remember, I'm not sure you 'go' anywhere. At first, I 
 think you hover around, for a while, watch, and feeling, the 
 circumstance of your life, and death;
 The way you die is of significance, and this is pondered...
 Then, I think your soul revisits different realms, in the past; 
 different energies are absorbed into the soul, and the karmas of 
the 
 past, are there...
 I believe that these karmas, from the past,  bring you back, to 
earth 
 again- born into a family, and a situation, which is where you left 
 off the last time on earth:
 Except, it might just be opposite, in that if you were a poor 
before, 
 you might be rich, so the soul would be able to balance the karmas.
 
 I have had readings, from a couple of people whom I trusted with 
 information, on some of my past lives...
 And this can stimulate memories..
   or even help in the developement of this particular ability or 
 siddhi.
  And, it can help to know why certain, 'bad' things happen, in a 
way-
 you can see how a past life circumstance would create a present 
life 
 event or life script, etc..;  
  you may even transcend, resentment about something current.
 Also, you can get faint feelings of where you may have spent time 
 with friends and family in past times, and places.
 You can get a sense of history repeating itself, in current events, 
 as the karma of the past unfolds.
  R.G.





[FairfieldLife] Where do the unawakened go when they die?

2006-12-28 Thread Jeff Fischer
As anyone reading this is back walking around in a body, where did you 
go the last time you dropped your body?



[FairfieldLife] Where do you go when you die?

2006-12-27 Thread Jeff Fischer

When one has *awakened* where do they go when they drop the body?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Where do you go when you die?

2006-12-27 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@
 wrote:
 
  When one has *awakened* where do they go when they drop the body?
 
 
 More seriously, it kinda depends on who you believe. 
 Maharishi always went with the drop returning to the 
 ocean theory, meaning that when one has realized 
 enlightenment (and he often specified 'CC' as the type
 of enlightenment he was talking about) and then kicks the 
 bucket, there is no more reincarnation. The relative body 
 drops away and only the absolute remains, never taking 
 relative form again.

This one never attracted me.  Don't want to be a drip.
 1. One can decide to try for non-reincarnation and perform
 after-death techniques to merge with light and not return
 in a body. Suffice it to say that unless one has practiced
 these techniques for many years *before* kicking the bucket
 this rarely works.
 
 2. One can decide *to* reincarnate (for example as part of
 a desire to teach), and using other after-death techniques, 
 have a great deal of say as to when, where, and in what form
 one reincarnates. 

# 2 is more for me.  Desire to serve and help rather than teach. 

 3. One can decide not to decide. One just kicks the bucket
 and sees what happens.
 
# 3 is the one I have the most experience with :-)
 
 Of the three, I'm most attracted to Door Number Three. It
 seems to have the least amount of attachment or aversion
 going for it. Let's face it...Door Number One is a theory
 based primarily on aversion for the relative and for 
 incarnate life, and Door Number Two seems based on ego and 
 an attachment to trying to bring others to enlightenment. 
 Only Door Number Three seems to be about accepting whatever 
 happens. Even if it's Disneyland. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Family Chat -- December 16, 2006

2006-12-19 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Vedic Communism.
 
 Although instead of coming in the middle of the night to haul you 
off  
 to a gulag, they come to check your wallpaper.

That's funny.






[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO compound at Vlodrop

2006-12-18 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

  Give me New Yorkers anytime.

In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Gotta love that asphalt. And those trees in barrels. Yippee.

As a former New Yorker, I have to agree w/ Turq.  NYC has a fantastic 
vibrant energy about it, SV aside.  Ever fly over Manhatten and see 
Central Park?  Stunning, given all the monster buildings every where 
else.




[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO compound at Vlodrop

2006-12-18 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You take Manhattan and I'll take Green Acres...

I guess that makes you Eddie Arnold and me Eva Gabor!



[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO compound at Vlodrop

2006-12-18 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dance, Barry, dance!

Sounds like a good idea.  Probably more fun than this argument.





[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO compound at Vlodrop

2006-12-18 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   Dance, Barry, dance!
  
  Sounds like a good idea.  Probably more fun than this argument.
 
 Try the one between Lawson and Bhairitu...

Good point.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent travels to Rishikesh...

2006-12-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
 Spiritual ramblings of an Englishman - 
http://andysindianjourney.blogspot.com/index.html

posted by Andy  

Nice pictures and attractive site.

Andy is into hypnosis and hypnosis meditation:  
http://www.changeinmind.com/

What do ya'll think about that?
   




[FairfieldLife] Re: Vegetarians are more intelligent

2006-12-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Vegetarians are more intelligent.

How many here are vegetarians?  Vegans?
I'm not.



[FairfieldLife] Did (Does) the TM technique help YOU?

2006-12-15 Thread Jeff Fischer

MMY and the TMO aside, did (does) the TM technique help you?

Although no longer practicing, it did help me at the time.



[FairfieldLife] Where have gone, Rick Archer

2006-12-15 Thread Jeff Fischer

Where have you gone, Rick Archer
Our posters turn their lonely screens to you, woo woo woo
What's that you're saying Mrs. Archer?
Rolickin' Rick has got some work today, hey hey hey
Hey hey hey

Miss you, buddy.  Happy Holidays to you and all on FFL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Support this.....whether you are TM or anti -TM

2006-12-14 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 More loathsome than shooting them or strapping them to a bed and 
forcing them to take drugs?

The things you mention are, obviously, loathsome.  It's just that, in 
order for something to really work, there has to be some willingness 
from the participant.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info

2006-12-14 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting David Pogue of NY Times:
 Maybe as the Internet becomes as predominant as air, somebody 
 will realize that online behavior isn't just an afterthought. 
 Maybe, along with HTML and how to gauge a Web site's 
 credibility, schools and colleges will one day realize that 
 there's something else to teach about the Internet: Civility 
 101.



Here, here!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Pundit Info

2006-12-14 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What's the difference between hear! hear! and here, here!?  :0

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19980304



[FairfieldLife] Danish Traffic Control

2006-12-13 Thread Jeff Fischer
This is easy on the eyes, guys!
http://www.speedbandits.dk/




[FairfieldLife] You can't believe everything the media shoves at you

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff Fischer
HOLMES' DAD SLAMS MARRIAGE DISAPPROVAL RUMOURS
 
 
  
KATIE HOLMES' dad MARTIN blasted rumours he disapproves of his 
daughter's marriage to TOM CRUISE by giving the couple a moving toast 
at their rehearsal dinner. The lawyer praised Cruise's emotional 
openness and said he was pleased to be entrusting his little girl 
to the right guy during his speech at the 17th century Villa Aurelia, 
near Rome, Italy. He gushed, Tom expressed his love in many different 
ways - obviously he wanted the whole world to know how much he loved 
Katie. I like that. I respect men who are not afraid to show their true 
feelings. I respect Tom for the commitment he had made to provide 
happiness and love to Katie.
27/11/2006 17:16 
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Turq's Experiential Richter Scale

2006-11-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:

 Doing program in a room with siddhas, at its finest, 
 was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There 
 really wasn't much to get freaked about. 
 
 I am *not* saying that the phenomena I experienced were
 in any sense better than those one can have with the
 TM siddhis. But more powerful? My scale of 1 to 11 is
 logarithmic, like the Richter scale.

I'd be interested to know what you use to measure it:

Freakiness
Powerful feeling
Expansiveness
Greater understanding
Knowingness
Separateness from the body
etc



[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Experiential Richter Scale

2006-11-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
Thanks.  I read a couple of stories and enjoyed them.  I got a flavor 
of what you are talking about.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@
 wrote:
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   Doing program in a room with siddhas, at its finest, 
   was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There 
   really wasn't much to get freaked about. 
   
   I am *not* saying that the phenomena I experienced were
   in any sense better than those one can have with the
   TM siddhis. But more powerful? My scale of 1 to 11 is
   logarithmic, like the Richter scale.
  
  I'd be interested to know what you use to measure it...
 
 I'd like to thank you for asking this, Jeff. It's
 a really good question, one that I'll puzzle over
 for some time. 
 
 I can generate a 5 pretty much anytime I want, 
 because I live adjacent to a serious power place
 and within a few hours' drive of several that are
 far more powerful. Every time I have hiked to the
 top of Quéribus it's been at least a 6, and spending 
 the night there during a full moon is definitely an 8.
 
 The best way I can think of to convey to you some of
 the 6+ moments is to point you to the book I wrote.
 In it there are a series of tsakli. (The first such
 story explains what tsakli are and why I chose that
 name for these particular recollections.) 
 
 The power is not in the words -- they are at best a
 feeble attempt to express the inexpressible -- or in
 the events that the words describe. The power is in 
 the state of attention that I wore while the events
 were taking place, and which I can still tap back into
 when I read these stories. The moments were structured
 in eternity, and eternity is always present.
 
 http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind
 
 Unc





[FairfieldLife] Re: transitional species found!

2006-11-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
LOL  Very good.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yhvhworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- 
 
 http://www.funpic.hu/funblog/allatok/allatok.html
 
 --- End forwarded message ---





[FairfieldLife] DOES THE WORLD NEED TO BE SAVED?

2006-11-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
I started meditation years ago hoping to solve my confusion in life.
I got involved with Scientology to solve a new confusion.

I became a TM teacher and a Scientology auditor to help people/*save 
the world*

Is it naive to want to try to save the world?

Does the world need saving?  If so, from what?

I would be interested to find out why others started TM (or any other 
practice) as well as why they became more involved (if they did).

Thank you.






[FairfieldLife] Rehabilitate your protest days - it did for me

2006-11-04 Thread Jeff Fischer

30 second video

www.youthforhumanrights.org/watchads/psa20_h.html




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[FairfieldLife] Television Deficiency Disorder

2006-11-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
 More than thirty-five million Americans may currently be suffering 
from a
 newly-discovered disorder that affects brain chemistry, behavior and
 health: Television Deficiency Disorder, or TDD for short. Based on 
work by
 Dr. Anne Tennah, a psychiatrist who specializes in brain chemistry
 disorders, this little-known disorder is now thought to be more 
widespread
 than ADHD and Bi-Polar combined. 
 
 Television Deficiency Disorder is a serious condition brought on by 
a 
lack
 of television programming. Victims display excessive intelligence
 quotients (I.Q.s), an exaggerated sense of self esteem, and 
suspiciously
 high levels of physical activity that keep them strangely thin. 
These
 victims stray from societal norms, explained Dr. Tennah. With 
their
 heightened cognitive function but lack of exposure to sitcoms, 
reality
 shows and shaped news programs, they are unable to interact with 
normal
 people in society. 
 
 Dr. Anne Tennah suggests that victims of TDD be prescribed 
additional
 television programming. Parents especially need to make sure their
 children receive at least two to three hours of television 
programming per
 day, she said. Otherwise, they may grow up imbalanced and require
 medication. 
 
 The medications used to treat Television Deficiency Disorder have,
 coincidentally, just been approved by the Fraud and Drug 
Administration.
 Manufactured by ConPhuzer, a Big Pharma giant, the drugs are 
stimulant
 amphetamines similar to those prescribed for ADHD, but with much 
higher
 potency. These drugs put children in a quiet, receptive state 
where 
they
 can sit in front of the television for hours and soak up all the
 programming they need, explained Dr. Tennah. They're miracle 
drugs. 
I
 intend on prescribing them to all my patients. 
 
 Share prices for ConPhuzer rose $2.37 on the news of the drug 
approval by
 the FDA, and then leaped another $12.62 on the announcement that
 Television Deficiency Disorder had been discovered. This thrilled 
major
 ConPhuzer shareholders such as the ghost of Kenneth Lay, the former 
CEO of
 Enron who is now apparently immune to all insider trading crimes 
because
 he is no longer living. 
 
 Most of the people who need treatment for Television Deficiency 
Disorder
 are not receiving it, say members of non-profit patient advocacy 
groups.
 They offer free screenings to the public in order to help people 
determine
 if they, too, may suffer from undiagnosed Television Deficiency 
Disorder.
 Screenings are held with very large screens to maximize the disorder
 detection accuracy. 
 
 Doctors also now believe that Television Deficiency Disorder is 
genetic.
 If your parents didn't watch much television, chances are that you 
won't
 either, explained Dr. Tennah. That puts you at high risk for TDD
 disorder, and treatment is recommended to prevent the disorder in 
all
 high-risk patients. 
 
 Television and cable news channels are also urging the public to be
 tested. This rising problem of Television Deficiency Disorder may 
explain
 our plummeting ratings, said Freeh Quincy, the director of 
programming
 for MSNBCBS. We are doing our part to help eradicate this disease 
by
 taking millions of dollars from drug companies and running their
 advertisements alongside news reports that highlight the disorder. 
 
 Even as tens of millions of Americans may now be suffering from 
Television
 Deficiency Disorder, third world countries are hit even 
harder. Many
 countries don't even have televisions, warned Dr. Anne 
Tennah, And 
as a
 result, they are in the midst of widespread TDD epidemics that are 
worse
 than AIDS. International aid is being organized to help bring such
 countries more television programming, along with western junk food
 restaurants, drug companies and soda giants to support the 
advertising
 requirements of local television shows. The more television we can 
bring
 these people, the better off they will be, Dr. Tennah said. We 
must
 spread American culture throughout the world in order to save 
everyone. 
 
 Back in the United States, parents, schoolteachers and librarians 
are
 being urged to help boost the television time of children. They are 
also
 warned that reading, exercising, family interaction and play time 
all
 interfere with quality television programming, so such activities 
should
 be limited, psychiatrists say. 
 
 Finally, psychiatrists are also urging all parents to realize that 
this
 report is a satire piece, meaning that it is entirely fictitious. 
It 
does
 serve, however, as a metaphor for the incessant disease mongering 
and
 screening  treatment scams being operated today by drug 
companies,
 disease non-profit groups and the psychiatric community. So-called
 disorders ranging from ADHD to social anxiety disorder are 
invented,
 promoted and sold to the public in order to convince people they 
need
 expense pharmaceuticals to lead healthy lives. The effort has 
nothing 
to
 do with health, but everything to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The wonders of SSRI's

2006-10-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ 
wrote:
 
  
  http://ssristories.com/index.php?sort=drug
  
 SSRIs are a two-edged sword. I'm down to 10mg/day  of Prozac and 
would happily take less 
 if they made a lower dose. As I get back into regular TM I hope to 
reduce to 10mg every 
 other day, and then go off it completely.

Cool!




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[FairfieldLife] The wonders of SSRI's

2006-10-23 Thread Jeff Fischer

http://ssristories.com/index.php?sort=drug

With over 50% of US population on or having tried these drugs it's
sobering to see what havoc is wreaked by something that is supposed to 
help people.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: THE BARRY AND JUDY SHOW

2006-10-23 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Having not participated in a good long time, I was amused to see some 
things never change.  Reminds me of when my wife was pregnant and sick 
at MIU in 1980 and all we got on TV were the ABC soaps.  I can still 
tune in today and see the same recognizable stuff.
It provides a comforting stability; so thank you, Barry  Judy.
However, before it may appear I'm throwing stones, I play my own part 
by reliably posting about the horrors of psychiatry.
Which is more dramatic:  what is posted here or the true world terrors?




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[FairfieldLife] Tom Cruise Day in Japan

2006-10-10 Thread Jeff Fischer

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005128423






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[FairfieldLife] Anti-depressants and school shootings

2006-10-04 Thread Jeff Fischer

http://mms.tveyes.com/ExpandGuest.asp?ln=140891






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[FairfieldLife] 72 year old New Hampshire granny speaks out

2006-10-03 Thread Jeff Fischer

http://magic-city-news.com/article_6738.shtml





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken Wilber severely injured

2006-08-01 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/110


Vaj,
Check out this site as I believe it will help Ken recover more rapidly:

http://tinyurl.com/me9fh

Best,
Jeff






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[FairfieldLife] Are your children crazy?

2006-07-28 Thread Jeff Fischer
http://tinyurl.com/gh7lg






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Jeff Fischer

2006-07-12 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good to have you on the planet. Have a great day!


You're a thoughtful man, Rick.  Thanks and best to you and all on FFL.
Much Love,
Jeff






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[FairfieldLife] Cause and Effect

2006-06-13 Thread Jeff Fischer
Of course your MEST (Material) body is always an effect; anybody can 
come along, kick it, boot it, run over it, play things at it, do 
anything to it 

 

Your body will always be an effect, and there is no reason for you 
to go on through life going and winding this riddle round and round 
and round on 'Am I cause or am I an effect? Or am I an effect or am I 
a cause? Because if I step on a nail I hurt; therefore I am an 
effect. Therefore, I could never be completely at cause, because if I 
step on a nail, why, then I hurt and that automatically makes me an 
effect.' 

 

You better locate that part of you which is always cause and then 
recognize that you are that part. And that's very simple -- very, 
very simple. 

 

Right here on the middle of your 'youness' is an imperishable, 
completely indestructible motion source. It is a motion source which 
itself has no motion. That is your inheritance as part of divine 
beingness. That is it, and don't think that is a small part of you or 
merely a part of you, because it's not. That's you. You have 
immortality in that part of you which is you; that is immortal 

 

... geographically you aren't anyplace; you aren't anyplace. But if 
you're alive, if you breathe (and some people do), if your heart 
beats, or even if you're out of your body living comfortably without 
these mechanical motions distracting you all the time, you have a 
point of beingness and you are that beingness. And that is very 
important. This is the point from which you emanate. And beingness, 
in this regard and to this degree, has to be tracked down, because 
that beingness is cause.  And it is the one single cause and the rest 
is effect. -- LRH, From Decision: Cause and Effect, recorded lecture 
of 20 May 1952, from The Route to Infinity series, English tape 
transcript pages 52-53.








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[FairfieldLife] Brain chemistry

2006-06-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
http://tinyurl.com/hbz2e

http://www.macleans.ca
 

Maclean's
June 5, 2006
THE RITALIN WAR
MAIL BAG
 
THANKS VERY MUCH for presenting an interesting article on the war 
against the legal drugging of school kids. First off, I do not 
share the opinion that all drugs are bad and that we should never use 
any drug. However, to use mind-altering drugs on schoolchildren is 
quite another matter. When one really looks into this issue of 
attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, one finds that there is no 
real medical evidence that this disease actually exists. What we do 
have is a label put on kids who don't sit still and do their 
homework. Has this changed over the past 100 years? Hardly! Now add a 
poor diet and sugary soft drinks. Why would we take for granted the 
opinion from some person in a white coat, advocating putting our kids 
on drugs rather than feeding them better? Simple. We've been 
bamboozled into believing that control of our kids is just a pill 
away.
Dr. Joel Parker, Vancouver

DANYLO HAWALESHKA'S article about Danielle Lavigueur and her son 
Gabriel (A new war over Ritalin, Health, May 15) has more to do 
with how controversial Scientology is than with how dangerous Ritalin 
is. As a father of three and a man who is concerned about the future 
of our kids, I have talked with thousands of parents about the very 
same thing this article should be focused on -- the over-drugging of 
our kids with these dangerous psychotropic drugs and the coercion 
used to make the kids take them. I have met parents and relatives of 
suicide victims using these dangerous drugs, and countless others who 
have experienced severe side effects, including permanent brain 
damage. Nobody cared what my religion was and I didn't care what 
their religion was. All I cared about was that parents were getting 
educated about the truth of what these drugs do to their kids. 
Tom Beattie, Fredericksburg, Va.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know about anyone else, but being 25+ years
 away from the TMO and its indoctrination, the very
 fact that thousands of people who first signed up
 for TM with the understanding that it was non-religious
 and that their mantras had no meaning would GO for the
 idea of yagyas performed in their name was mind-
 boggling.  I mean, somewhere along the line all these
 practical people switched allegiance from a practical
 scientific technique to paying money so that someone
 could chant to the gods in their name so that their
 bunions would be less painful.  

Go figure.

I've tried... Unsuccessfully.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
I left TM prior to hearing about yagya technology, so don't know much 
about it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  snip

 
How can someone be doing TM, have a glimpse of Consciousness as the 
Field of
 All Possiblities and Consciousness as the Field of Infinite
 Correlation and ask such a question? 

Is the idea of a yagya that others are more established in the field 
you mention above and hence can get the desired result?
If one was fully established in this field, would one need others to 
perform a yagya?
Are there special *incantations* one needs to know to get the result?

 snip
 God can't do better than that?

Last question:  How much of it is up to God, and how much is up to us?

Thanks.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you familiar with Prayer?  Do you send God a MapQuest URL when 
you say a prayer for yourself or someone else?

I guess if you mean yagyas are like prayers, I'm asking why one, if 
established in the Absolute, would need someone else to do something 
for them, presumably to get a desired result.

I'm not asking about the how will the result find you question.  I 
get that.

I'm trying to understand.  I am not trying to attack.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 To put it in plain terms, the entire universe is the sacrifice of 
different
 forms of energy. For example you exist based on a physical body 
that is
 maintained through the sacrifice of other living substances to keep 
your
 body intact. Even if you cannot see the process taking place, it 
works. When
 the rishis entered higher, more unitary states of consciousness, it 
became
 apparent that different disparate phenomenon were interrelated and
 interconnected. Since they could relate to objects interacting in 
different
 dimensions as pure name and form, they could grok how to cause 
change based
 on those insights. Therefore using a language constructed on pure
 name-and-form, they could perceive sounds which could effect change 
merely
 by reciting them with the correct formula and intent.

Thanks, Vaj.  Very clearly elucidated.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nixon redux.
 
 When I despair, I remember that all through history 
 the way of truth and love has always won. There have 
 been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem 
 invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Think 
 of it -- always.  - Gandhi

Great quote.  Agreed... Always.




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[FairfieldLife] Not as bad as expected: Katrina Baseball

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
Judy forwarded this message from a friend on Sunday morning:

 Laugh if you want, but this is what my shaman friends advise, and 
they've predicted the recent natural disasters, including the 
 tsunami.  I've been doing this since last night.  JUST DO IT.  It 
 can't hurt. 
 
  --
 Judy: Makes sense to me.

Jeff:
I agree.  Let's get those good vibes streaming out to NO.  Lots 
of 'em!

Now, I didn't see much response to these posts, which turns out to 
have been fortunate.  Let me explain:

See, I looked at a map and saw that Austin at 30.16 N latitude while 
New Orleans is at 30.0 N making Austin just slightly north.

Being a former baseball player, I wanted to figure out how to send my 
good vibes where they would have the best result.  If I sent them 
straight at the storm, they'd be belted back like a Mark McGwire 
homerun (particularly during his steroid years).  Plus, my fastball 
never was very good.  Hmmm.
Then I realized Katrina was a righty (counterclockwise motion).  I 
throw righty.   A - A Curveball - That's what was needed.  If 
thrown correctly, it's one of the hardest pitches to hit.  And 
afterall, I was pitching to a girl; albeit a very powerful girl ala 
Geena Davis, but come on, I'm a guy.
Plus, the curve could sneak in from behind and would be spinning in 
the same direction as Katrina.  

I knew there was about an 11 minute difference, longitude wise, so I 
did my best calculations and let her rip.  Fortunately, I hit at the 
right time and angle. I made her put her foot in the bucket which 
reduced her power and bumped her to the east, averting the more major 
damage.

Had all of you sent good vibes from wherever you are located, it 
would have spoiled my whole theory.  So, thanks for sitting on the 
sidelines.

I ask for no accolades, appreciation or fanfare.  I am but a humble 
citizen trying to do my part.  But, I thought you guys deserved the 
real story.  Let's face it, something got her to swerve just in the 
nick of time.

With tobacco plug firmly in cheek (hey - I'm a Texan now) I'm glad to 
have been able to be of service.  Just wish my curveball would have 
been that good in High School.

Jeff






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Immortality Hormone

2005-08-27 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this an important topic to you, personally? If so, why not state
 why and engage readers in a diologue. If not, why make a post? Other
 than to make a point i suppose. If thats the case, why not state your
 point upfront?

Good point.  Rereading it this am, think it was a little too much of 
the vino last night.  Was an a-hole comment.  Sorry.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction - Now Peace Fund $$$

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think the mansion was owned by a couple from Austin who had bought 
it from
 Hartnett. I think their names were Greg and Marilyn Karnezi or 
something
 like that.

There was/is(?) a Dr. named Greg Karnezi in Austin.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What if he just gave a small chuckle and went about his business?

Would you wear the crown and robes?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Shemp, this is what you *should* have quoted, from
 my recent post here, instead of going back and digging
 up a seven-year-old post from alt.m.t in which I'd said
 something *different*.  How much time did you waste
 doing that?


I wondered how much time it took too.  However, as it seems to be in 
keeping with other invitations you have given to visit alt. m.t. to 
clarify something, you're time wasting comment seems a bit catty to 
me.

These interchanges are somewhat mesmerizing for me, like hanging around 
at a car wreck:  I want to see what happens, but part of me wonders why.

I guess I rationalize the volitional waste of my own time with this 
stuff as at least I'm reading, rather than being gamma rayiedly 
(correct this spelling please) stupified by the boob tube.  There is 
perverse entertainment value in it all for me.

So, for that, I thank you (the collective you).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rama Lama Ding Ding Dong

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Congratulations, Jeff.  Once again you've found a
 way to make me the bad guy.

Sorry.  Not my intention.  I'll go back to keeping my observations to 
myself as they obviously are counterproductive for you.




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[FairfieldLife] Buddha

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the 
past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles but to live in the 
present moment wisely and earnestly. 
-Buddha  
 





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[FairfieldLife] Santayana

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
The world is not respectable; it is mortal, tormented, confused, 
deluded forever; but it is shot through with beauty, with love, with 
glints of courage and laughter; and in these, the spirit blooms 
timidly, and struggles to the light amid the thorns. 

-George Santayana




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Vedic Teachings/Hit's the East Coast/Well, Almost'

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1125049415
263130.xmlcoll=1

  The events of human life, whether public or private, are so 
intimately linked to architecture that most observers can reconstruct 
nations or individuals in all the truth of their habits from the 
remains of their public monuments or from their domestic relics. 

-Honoré de Balzac, The Search for the Absolute 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vlodrop report from a Purusha

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
Sounds like he had a great time.  Very enjoyably written.
What tangible results do these guys feel they have created?




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[FairfieldLife] Kaplan University

2005-08-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
http://www.kaplanuniversityonline.com/landing/CJ.php




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[FairfieldLife] Thomas Jefferson on Iraq and FFL

2005-08-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience 
to remain silent.

I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind. 
 
An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a 
thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of 
nations down to a town meeting or a vestry.Or FFL

Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.

If God is just, I tremble for my country.

Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our 
government. 

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only 
sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. 

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government 
those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, 
perverted it into tyranny. 

For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead.

Force is the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism.

I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the 
world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) 
one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and 
mythology. 

I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the 
less we use our power the greater it will be. 

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the 
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense 
of taking care of them. 

I was bold in the pursuit of knowledge, never fearing to follow truth 
and reason to whatever results they led, and bearding every authority 
which stood in their way. 

If the present Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be 
otherwise in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty 
lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and 
talk by the hour? 

It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can 
stand by itself. 

No man will ever carry out of the Presidency the reputation which 
carried him into it. 

The most successful war seldom pays for its losses. 

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government 
to gain ground. 

We did not raise armies for glory or for conquest.

When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thomas Jefferson on Iraq and FFL

2005-08-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
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wrote:
 Thomas Jefferson also said:
 
 What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not 
 warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of 
 resistance? Let them take arms. 

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. 
Thomas Jefferson 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Request -- what are your favorite offbeat spiritual films?

2005-08-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  For me, the main quality of a good 
 film is that it *surprises* me, and takes me somewhere I
 have never been before.  

Agreed.  When I saw Breathless w/ Richard Gere, I knew nothing about 
it.  The warped compulsiveness of his character coupled with his 
unbridled optimism really captivated me.
The scene where he's watching TV while Elvis' Caught in a Trap is 
playing in the background summed it up for me.  He sees that the cop he 
shot has just died.  He looks out the window into the courtyard to see 
others watching the news as well; the heaviness of the situation and 
concurrent drama of the song kick in and I was experiencing the 
discomfort.  Suddenly he jumps up from his chair, throws the bathroom 
door open, takes one side of the shower sliding door off the track and 
jumps into the shower with his French girlfriend - the joyous energy of 
the song capturing that sudden change of mood just as well as it had 
created the drama.  Leaving me:  Breathless.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Request -- what are your favorite offbeat spiritual films?

2005-08-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As input for a book idea, I was wondering whether
 folks here have favorite films that they consider
 spiritual.

Braveheart, Pulp Fiction, Como Agua Para Chocolate




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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Request -- what are your favorite offbeat spiritual films?

2005-08-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Cool.  I'm interested in what turns you on spiritually
 about Pulp Fiction, if you feel like sharing...

It's a morality play where everyone gets what they deserve.  That's how 
I feel the universe is set up.  Jules has a Paul the Apostle type 
epiphany.  Butch can't leave the guy who wants him dead in that 
predicament.  Travolta's a narcissistic asshole but charasmatic and 
stangely philosophical about life.  Everyone's living their own crazy 
realities, yet it seems real to me.  Seems to me to reflect your 
definition of tantra.  Particularly Butch needing to go after his watch.

And it still makes me laugh like hell.  So many incredible lines.  
Can't get more spiritual than that.

 Your Spanish title for Like Water For Chocolate reminded
 me of another of my faves, Y Tu Mama Tambien.

I was going to list that one too, but couldn't remember the name.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Request -- what are your favorite offbeat spiritual films?

2005-08-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Cool.  I'm interested in what turns you on spiritually
 about Pulp Fiction, if you feel like sharing...

It's a morality play where everyone gets what they deserve.  That's how 
I feel the universe is set up.  Jules has a Paul the Apostle type 
epiphany.  Butch can't leave the guy who wants him dead in that 
predicament.  Travolta's a narcissistic asshole but charasmatic and 
stangely philosophical about life.  Everyone's living their own crazy 
realities, yet it seems real to me.  Seems to me to reflect your 
definition of tantra.  Particularly Butch needing to go after his watch.

And it still makes me laugh like hell.  So many incredible lines.  
Can't get more spiritual than that.

 Your Spanish title for Like Water For Chocolate reminded
 me of another of my faves, Y Tu Mama Tambien.

I was going to list that one too, but couldn't remember the name.




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[FairfieldLife] Lawson still afloat ?

2005-08-24 Thread Jeff Fischer
Heard there was major deluge in Tucson.

Hope you're OK.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction: the next MMY pronouncement

2005-08-22 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And, given your history of wanting to prove me
 wrong, in any circumtance possible, about the
 tiniest of tiny nitpicks, it's possible that the 
 dozen or so sites you spot checked out of the 
 6690 just weren't the right ones.  Get back to 
 me after you've checked them all, Ok?  :-)

Unc, you might want to choose from the following Yogi Berra quotes:

I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that 
question.

I never said most of the things I said.

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true.




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[FairfieldLife] Interesting Quotes (Game at bottom)

2005-08-21 Thread Jeff Fischer
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. 

We are punished by our sins, not for them. 

There is no failure except in no longer trying. 
 
The idea that is not dangerous is not worthy of being called an idea 
at all. 

The friend is the man who knows all about you, and still likes you. 

The greatest mistake you can make in life is continually fearing that 
you'll make one. 

Responsibility is the price of freedom. 

Positive anything is better than negative nothing.

Never explain - your friends do not need it and your enemies will not 
believe you anyway. 

No one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least 
once a day. 

Life is just one damned thing after another. 

Live truth instead of professing it. 

A friend is one who knows you and loves you just the same.

He has achieved success who has worked well, laughed often, and loved 
much. 
Elbert Hubbard

GAME:

The following are Yogisms.  What FFLer or situation does each one 
remind you of?

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough
to eat six.

You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because
you might not get there.

I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that 
question.

You can observe a lot by just watching.

I never said most of the things I said.

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true.







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[FairfieldLife] Baseball Quotes

2005-08-10 Thread Jeff Fischer
The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the 
guys who are undecided. 
   
-Casey Stengel  (This one really cracked me up)
 
  The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. 
It's that they stay out all night looking for it. 
   
-Casey Stengel  (Rick - Any confirming rumors?)
 
  
 
  I never questioned the integrity of an umpire. Their eyesight, yes. 
   
-Leo Durocher  (FFL?)
 
  It was Brooklyn against the world. They were not only complete 
fanatics, but they knew baseball like the fans of no other city. It 
was exciting to play there. It was a treat. I walked into that 
crummy, flyblown park as Brooklyn manager for nine years, and every 
time I entered, my pulse quickened and my spirits soared. 
   
-Leo Durocher  (As a Brooklyn Dodger fan, I love this one)
 
  
  I think there are only three things America will be known for 
2,000 years from now when they study this civilization: the 
Constitution, jazz music, and baseball. 
  
-Gerald Early  
 
  When I was a small boy growing up in Kansas, a friend of mine and I 
went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of a summer afternoon 
on a riverbank we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. 
I told him that I wanted to be a real major-league baseball player, a 
genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like 
to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish. 
  
-Dwight D Eisenhower  (Better had he gotten his wish?)
 
  Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. 
   
-Charlie Finley  
 
   
  Fans don't boo nobodies. 
   
-Reggie Jackson  (Scientologists hope?)
 
  Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the 
squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. 
   
-Rod Kanehl  (I can relate)
 
  Concentration is the ability to think about absolutely nothing when 
it is absolutely necessary. 
   
-Ray Knight   (A new technique?)
 
  All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, 'See, there's a 
fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.' 
   
-Mickey Lolich(Personal favorite)
 
  You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from 
defeat. 
   
-Christy Mathewson  (Got plenty of reality here)
 
  Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you. 
 
-Satchel Paige  (Butch  Sundance?)
 
  Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. 
Home plate don't move. 
   
-Satchel Paige  (That's what I call a stable datum)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On the contrary, as I have stated many times before (and 
 as you have chosen to disbelieve many times before),
 I assume that I am wrong about pretty much *every-
 thing*.  That helps me when I state opinion X one day
 and then state opinion Y (completely contradictory)
 the next day.  Both were my opinion at the time, from
 the respective state of attention in which they were
 stated.  Neither has anything to do with truth or 
 infallibility.  It's *you* who has the hangup about
 consistency, remember?  :-)

Judy, with no disrespect intended, this is how I see it too.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer

 Unc wrote:
 
 On the contrary, as I have stated many times before (and 
 as you have chosen to disbelieve many times before),
 I assume that I am wrong about pretty much *every-
 thing*.  That helps me when I state opinion X one day
 and then state opinion Y (completely contradictory)
 the next day.  Both were my opinion at the time, from
 the respective state of attention in which they were
 stated.  Neither has anything to do with truth or 
 infallibility.  It's *you* who has the hangup about
consistency, remember?  :-)

Jeff wrote:

Judy, with no disrespect intended, this is how I see it too.

Judy inquiried:
 
 That I have a hangup about consistency, or that Barry
 assumes he's wrong about pretty much everything, or
 that you assume *you're* wrong about pretty much
 everything?

Jeff asked for FFL reader help on this multiple choice question:

 A)That I have a hangup about consistency, or that  

 B)Barry assumes he's wrong about pretty much everything, or
 
 C) that you assume *you're* wrong about pretty much everything?

 D)  All of the above

 E)  None of the above
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh shit! Here we go again! Was my snit-fit with Akasha
 as bad as this? (Yes!!) I respect all of these writers
 individually, but when they go at it like
 this

Yeah.  Kind of reminds me of the Jack Johnson fight against Jess 
Willard in Cuba that went 16 rounds until (allegedly) Johnson allowed 
himself to be knocked out.  Hard on the combatants and the spectators, 
in the blazing sun.  So, unless this all leads to blazing Brahman...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm already out of it.  I said what I had to say about the
 subject, and I don't think I have anything more to add.
 Some of us actually shut up when this happens.  :-)

Ok, Mr. Johnson.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, Jeff, but I really *don't* know what you're
 trying to tell me.

   D)  All of the above

 A) My observation

 B) His own assertion

 C) Group consensus of what pretty much any Scientologist has to say






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Sorry, Jeff, but I really *don't* know what you're
  trying to tell me.
 
D)  All of the above
 
  A) My observation
 
  B) His own assertion
 
  C) Group consensus of what pretty much any Scientologist has to 
say

PS  If you don't like my answer to A, fear not, there is C :-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting website

2005-08-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
 
 I am the pudding; you are the pudding; all this is the pudding, the 
 pudding alone IS.

If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. 
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 ---Well, it is good to doubt everything; that way you don't have to 
 put your faith in anything; that's ok, I guess.
 Many people feel that way about everything these days, not just 
 Maharishi, but every level of society, religion, government, courts, 
 every level, is basically full of crap, right?

People have been betrayed,lied to and disappointed many, many times.
I battle this attitude every day.  But I see where it comes from.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think I was being given the role of the potato
 dumpling in Unc's formulation, actually.  But if
 I don't have to be a *potato* dumpling, it could
 be shiksa-kreplach-kishkas.  (I can't even say that
 *once*.)

Mmm.  Now that sounds delicious.  I love the sound of kreplach 
(when pronounced correctly).  Judy, did you ever see Jackie Mason's one 
man Broadway show?  My ex-wife had a video copy and it never ceased to 
crack her up.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 On my one visit to Paris many years ago, I went with
 some friends to the Jewish quarter and was astonished
 to hear the residents speaking French with the very
 same accent and characteristic intonation.  I didn't
 realize it translated!

Cool.  Apparently it's a beingness.  Jews have well maintained their 
culture, heritage and values through it all which obviously has been 
a lot.  I remember my father in law sending me a list of famous Jews.
Mind blowing for me.  Speaks to me of the importance of values and 
integrity.

I love accents.  They make people laugh and communicate so much.  I can 
thank MMY (as well as Dr Sudarshan's son) for a pretty decent Indian 
one.  I might not have understood what was going on in those tapes half 
the time, but the accent got through.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Holland Report

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I am totally envious of my friends on Purusha who do their program 
 unquestioningly.  I wish I didn't have my discomfort about MMY.

I understand that sentiment.  But to thine own self (and own 
observation) be true.  Nothing else works, IMO.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Holland Report

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 No, as I'm a stupid ass, and my native language belongs
 to the same Uralic group of languages as Hungarian, I say
 that the world needs the mythological Finnish hero of the
 Kalevala, Maha-raaja (Belly-limb) Vainamoinen, to return. He in effect
 promised that after he was, as a representative of the native 
 shamanic religion, expelled by G-sus, and forced to sail
 to the Wild West. MR Vainamoinen was, I seem to recall, an 
 accomplished Shamanic Flyer, and stuff. In addition, he was
 horny after Ms. Aino...
 
 http://www.schneeland.com/kuvat/taide/aino.jpg

The Swedish in me agrees.





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[FairfieldLife] Sorry. Had to post it

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
http://www.newswithviews.com/Eakman/beverly31.htm





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The subject heading chosen by this poster, Donate Money for Peace 
 Palaces is interesting, because in the press release there is not a
 single 
 request for donations. Not one. I guess people see and read what they
 want 
 to read. 

I noticed the same thing.

A man only hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest
Paul Simon

In Scientology we have something called an obnosis (observing the 
obvious) drill.  When you look at something, you have to tell the other 
person what you see. I see her left ear  will be flunked when what is 
really seen is an ear lobe due to the fact that the rest of the ear 
is actually covered by hair.  Interesting drill to do and to coach.  We 
all see lots of stuff that isn't really there.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So although you are both correct that the specific phrase
 donate money for peace palaces is not in the press 
 release, that is its message.  The TMO is not going to put
 a penny into these buildings.  It's going to get other people
 to put up the money, it's going to use its own companies
 to build them, and then it's going to own the properties at
 the end of the day.  And other people will have paid for
 every penny of it.  Sure sounds like the *gist* of the 
 message is donate money for peace palaces to me.  :-)

Axiomatic, my dear Watson.  At least for most FFLers.




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[FairfieldLife] Conscience and consciousness (was Re: Clown Suits)

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One night I squashed a huge cockroach which squirted across the 
floor.  After cleaning up its guts and flushing it, because they have a 
way of still living and crawling away when they shouldn't, I then 
preceeded to make dinner.  As I ate I couldn't get the sense of 
squashing cockroach guts out of my mind.

It's the restimulation of having squished the guts out of other bodies 
(animal or human) that's getting to you there.  Not to mention the 
times you've had your own guts squished out.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's all Maya, my Friend. 

Then what's the problem w/ wasps and rats?




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[FairfieldLife] Street Drugs

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
The following is a summary of why we do drug education and how you 
can get active doing it. 

There are currently 15 million drug users in the United States and an 
increasing number of those are children. Studies show that early drug 
prevention must give young children the truth, the vital information 
and tools they need to make their own choice to keep away from drugs. 

On an average, 5,000 new people experiment with drugs each day. Over 
a year, this adds up to 1,825,000 new people trying drugs. It is 
vital that we change this trend. Drug education lectures to youth are 
the most effective way to do this - you reach them before they 
experiment and get addicted. We need you to join the drug education 
team and help reverse the drug problem today! 

Here is what people are saying about Narconon drug education: 

I thought it was very educational. It taught me a lot about drugs 
and even though the talk never said, 'Don't do drugs,' I know I 
won't. If one of my friends are doing drugs, I can teach them what I 
learned. - Grade 5, U.S. 
 

Before the Narconon presentation to our 8th grade students, I asked 
them if they remembered the Narconon presentation from last year. Not 
only did they remember having seen it, but they remembered what was 
said -- an unusual feat when dealing with middle school students! - 
Guidance Counselor, U.S. 

Results! 
Here is a must-read success story from Narconon: 

I am a 22-year-old former heroin addict. I went to high school in a 
suburb just outside of Detroit and began using random drugs starting 
at the age of 11. At first it was drinking, then weed, then acid and 
coke, this eventually moved on up to heroin when I was the ripe old 
age of 15. It started out as something to help forget what was really 
going on with my life; I had just gotten out of a relationship with a 
physically abusive boyfriend. I went to a friend that was a known 
heroin user and just plainly asked her to hook me up with some, she 
did this. From the first time to the last time I used it was always 
intravenously. 

I thought it all started out ok, I thought that I would be able to 
afford this habit and live like a normal teenage girl, this did not 
last for very long. Very soon I had sold all of my belongings that 
were worth anything, and I began selling all of my family's 
belongings. I stole any and everything that I thought I could 
possibly get some money for I did not care whose it was, I had to get 
my fix. My parents eventually caught on, my grades had dropped from a 
3.8 GPA to a 1.5 and they were continually getting calls saying that 
I had skipped school. I barely graduated high school and at the 
commencements ceremony I was so high that the person next to me had 
to wake me up when my name was called. 

When my parents found a bag of syringes, they did the only thing 
that they could, this was kick me out. I then moved into a friend's 
house in Del Ray, this is a horribly disgusting part of Detroit. I 
lived there for about a month and made money as a stripper at a dive 
on the city's border. When these people that I was living with found 
out that I was using, they kicked me out also. So I moved to 
Hamtramck, with a fellow junkie. Hamtramck is extremely close to the 
spot where I got my drugs from, so this was very convenient for me. I 
continued degrading myself by stripping in the ghetto bar I was 
working at for some time. Eventually I had become so strung out that 
they would not even have me there anymore because I looked so bad. 

I then decided that I should get cleaned up a bit, I was unable to 
afford my habit anymore, and my tolerance had gotten too high. So, I 
checked myself into a hospital, I stayed there for a couple of days, 
did the 12 step thing and cleaned up. When I got out I immediately 
started up using again and ended up in the same vicious cycle that I 
was stuck in before. I tried a couple of more times going to 
different rehabs, but each time I would use almost immediately after 
I walked out of the door. The last rehab I was in I met a man and 
became involved with him. We lived together in various motels in the 
city, doing whatever necessary to get the money to pay for our 
constantly growing heroin habits. I came home from work one day and 
found him dead on the floor, he had overdosed. 

Now I was completely alone, my family wanted nothing to do with me, 
all of my 'friends' were either dead from drugs or on the way to 
death. I called my family and told them what had happened, hoping for 
some kind of help. I was definitely at the absolute end, I knew that 
if I did not get any help that I would be dead myself, extremely 
soon. My mother, the angel, found a place on the internet in Oklahoma 
called Narconon. She told me about this place and asked me if I would 
go, I told her that I would do anything to get me out of this hell 
that I was in because of the drugs. 

So, I came all of the way out to Oklahoma and started the Narconon 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Thank you Narconon.  
 
 Probe of antidrug program ordered 
 State schools chief says he could bar Narconon teachings
 Nanette Asimov, Chronicle Staff Writer
 
 Thursday, June 17, 2004
 
 

California's top educator said Wednesday that he has 
ordered the state Department of Education to investigate an antidrug 
program used by schools around the state whose teachings have been 
linked with the Church of Scientology.

Gee, if the educator's think it doesn't work, they must be right.  
They've done such a marvelous job with their own 'technology.

Ever wonder why Scientology is so attacked by a system that has given 
us wars in Vietnam  Iraq and completely failed drug, criminal rehab 
and educational programs?

Instead of finding stuff to attack, find something to support.  You 
can find crazy shit written about anything and everything on this 
planet.  Why not look for what could possibly be good about something.

Kirk, you're always asking Well, what you gonna do about it?  I 
think its a good question.  Scientology and Scientologists are doing 
something about the craziness on this planet, so of course, they get 
labelled as crazy.  

You mean you can find something to criticize about a group of humans 
who are trying to do something different and buck the 
miserable systems that are currently in place?
Wow!  I'm impressed.  That takes real skill.

Why not spend a little time on a Scientology site or two and see that 
side of the story.  We already  know how adept most people are on 
this forum at finding dirt.  Maybe, just maybe, you'll find it could 
be the baby out with the bath water.

Let's hope somebody has some real solutions to what's going on on 
this planet.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donate money for Peace Palaces

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 As I understand it, eprime is a way of speaking that eliminates the 
 word is because -- like your illustration of the ear lobe and the 
 ear -- it is inaccurate for anyone to claim that something is when 
 all they are doing is observing something and can't claim to know 
 the reality.
 
 For example, I see my drinking cup on the desk in front of my 
 computer.  According to my understanding of Eprime, it is incorrect 
 for me to say the cup in on the table but correct to say the cup 
 appears in my vision resting on the table.

It's not really about language.  It's about being able to see and 
perceive what's *really* there.  From one viepoint it might all be Maya 
but I'm glad to be able to discern a truck barrelling down on me vs a 
paper tiger.  





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[FairfieldLife] Machiavelli Quote

2005-08-04 Thread Jeff Fischer
It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, 
more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage, than the 
creation of a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who 
would profit by the preservation of the old institutions and merely 
lukewarm defenders in those who would gain by the new ones. 
Machiavelli 





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[FairfieldLife] Conscience and consciousness (was Re: Clown Suits)

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Isn't Unity what we are, rather than something that lives in us?
 Isn't that what we're trying to realize?
 
 
 On that note, I looked out the window and noticed that several 
huge wasps have decided they love my garden, and elsewhere, a rat must 
have spent some quality time eating my food offerings on an outer 
windowsill. So I'm wondering what the nature of unity is that 
structured my probably having to kill these beings.

The ability to *sanely* discriminate.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Themes of TMO...

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 8/3/05 1:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As M said to a friend of mine when he sent him away from 
Vlodrop, You have
 become too independent and I can't stand it.

Reminds me of how I felt when my wife became more self-determined 
after doing Scientology for a while.  She initially did pretty much 
what I told her to do without much ability to observe or discriminate 
on her own.  Then her awareness came up and I had to weather Ralph 
Cramden syndrome.  Fortunately, I did.  I couldn't be prouder of her.
She keeps me honest and is such an equal partner.  I'm glad to know I 
had at least at little something to do with helping her realize who 
she really is: a phenomenal being who I couldn't imagine living 
without, contrary to MMY's purported tactic.

Jeff

PS  Rick, it's good to have you back.  I can't exactly explain why, 
but I feel a wave of affinity when I see a post is from you.  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit (?) term sought

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone *might* have read 'navasvaH'
  a bit incorrectly, as 'navasvaN'(or 'navasvah' as 'navasvan').
  Or, then again, it might be an intentional misreading, because
  'navaswan' sounds better...
 
 Maybe it's a dialect. The book mentioned it to be east-Indian.

However you pronounce it, it's a cool time of day.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The meaning of *burning out your kishka's (was karma*....)

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 the people I
 got to know and who knew I meditated called me a Hinjew, it's
 apparently a common term.
 Ken

I used to call my ex wife my little Hinjew.  And I thought I coined it.
The older I get, the less clever I feel - or is that the ego (if it 
exists)is fading?  She was never offended but it was a term of 
endearment, not meant to slight or belittle.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits

2005-08-03 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 ---Also, Susan Humphrey..

And what about Nancy Lansdorf?





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[FairfieldLife] Poll

2005-08-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
Most even minded poster:

Most look forward to his/her posts, poster:

Funniest poster:

Most maligned poster:

Most prolific poster:

Most sincere poster:

Most logical poster:

Most gracious poster:


Trying to take the high road and avoid:

Has most increased my reaction time by hitting *next* button, poster.

Most would rather die than be wrong poster:

Most must have the last word poster:

Most takes self too seriously poster:








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perspective on Racism and Segregation in the US

2005-08-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  
  I called specific attention to what he asked some posts
  back, twice, but you just ignored it.  He asked for the
  name of a  restaurant that was integrated *on the
  particular stretch of road the Gores took between
  Nashville and D.C.*
 
 I give up.

AND THE WINNER AND STILL CHAMPION OF THE NEVER ENDING THREAD IS...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits

2005-08-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a new story emerging, from a very well-known and respected 
source,
 which I'm not yet at liberty to divulge (sorry for the tease), which
 dramatically ups the out-of-control ante. Sorry to be so vague, but 
you'll
 probably hear it before long. It's a mind-blower.


Damn.  Just as I was planning to fade in to the FFL sunset.

The soap opera quality here reminds me of when my first wife was 
pregnant with our first son at MIU.  All she could do was lie in our 
pod room and throw up and watch TV.  The only channel we got on our 
crappy little BW TV was ABC:  All My Children, One Life to Live and 
General Hospital (anyone remember Luke  Laura?).  As it was only 
during this time slot that she wasn't feeling totally like shit, that 
was our time together.  We actually named our son Jaimini, partially 
due to Indian saint and (more likely) because there was a cute kid on 
one of those damn soap operas named Jamie.

I did both of our class work (statute of limitations on that one?) and 
tried to get her potatoes from the commissary, as it was the only thing 
she could keep down.  A potato baked in our equally crappy toaster oven.
You wouldn't believe how hard it was to get a few lousy taters.  I 
showed them her meal card, saying she wouldn't be eating at the 
cafeteria and could I have a few potatoes.  Suffice it to say I had to 
get a friend who had commissary privileges to smuggle the spuds (man, 
who knows what the statute is on that one!) 

Anyway, I vowed after all of that, never to watch a soap opera again.
And here I am on FFL.  Funnily enough (remember that phrase?) I met a 
Scientologist who used to be on one of those shows.  He opened his talk 
by saying he had been on a soap opera with the most unlikely title and 
made us guess.  Yup:  One Life to Live

Most likely to tease poster:  Nominating Mr. Archer




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[FairfieldLife] Twain quotes

2005-08-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good 
example. 

Our opinions do not really blossom into fruition until we have 
expressed them to someone else. 

I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves 
to facts. 

There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale 
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. 
 
Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even 
to prayer. 

When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had 
happened or not. 

When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life 
stands explained. 

Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is 
time to reform. 

I cannot call to mind a single instance where I have ever been 
irreverent, except toward the things which were sacred to other 
people. 

The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown 
thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie 
told well is immortal. 

By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity. Another man's, I 
mean. 

It takes your enemy and your friend, working together, to hurt you: 
the one to slander you, and the other to get the news to you. 

The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are 
insane. 

I was gratified to be able to answer promptly. I said I don't know. 

In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in 
almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination. 

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a 
fool than to open it and remove all doubt. 

It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world 
and moral courage so rare. 

Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small 
people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, 
too, can become great. 
 
Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be 
sorry. 

Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture they do not 
understand, but the passages that bother me are those I do 
understand. 


The best way to cheer yourself is to try to cheer someone else up. 

The difference between the right word and the almost right word is 
the difference between lightning and a lightning bug. 

The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter. 
 
The universal brotherhood of man is our most precious possession. 

The worst loneliness is not to be comfortable with yourself. 

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting 
on its shoes. 

Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear.
 
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still 
exist, but you have ceased to live. 

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. 

Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. 

Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you 
please. 
 
Humor is the great thing, the saving thing. The minute it crops up, 
all our irritations and resentments slip away and a sunny spirit 
takes their place.

Hope you enjoyed these.  Let's laugh more.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Clown Suits

2005-08-02 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 indeed, I would say that, between the 
 sexes, preferential treatment and respect were given women...both in 
 practise and in the teaching.

I agree.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judgemental Views

2005-07-29 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 But I find jokes can often have embedded judgements at 
 thier core. Its what makes it funny. It might be termed 
disparaging
 humor or one-upmanship humor. And such humor can be self-mocking, 
that
 is one uses such humor to point out the foibles of us all, incuding
 the joke teller. But on the other hand, I have several friends, 
quite
 smart, upbeat, spiritually inclined people, who at times can make
 quite disparaging remarks about others -- in the context of humor. 
Its
 can be quite shocking, the meaness of it all.  But its a joke,
 right? That excuses everthing. :)


I know what you mean.  One has to look at whether the joke is 
degrading someone or something.  If so, better left unsaid.

 
 But where is the line between personal tastes (a fine thing) and
 judgemental views (an unecessary and harmful thing)? As touched on
 above, I think it is where the judgement is relavant to, necessary
 for, a personal decisions about an action. If its not, its a
 superfilous and extranious judgement -- and its this type of 
constant
 internally (and sometimes externally) commenting on judging people
 and things, that cloud the mind.

IMO anything that causes another to introvert (to look too closely at 
themselves) comprises the unnecessary or harmful thing.  Case in 
point:
Yesterday the computer wasn't working and I asked my wife how to fix 
it.  She kind of stammered, and hemmed and hawed out an answer that 
wasn't quickly to the point.  I replied with a I don't need your 
stuttering, uncertain response - just tell me how to fix it! (I 
might have thrown in a god damn it for good measure).  Well now she's 
looking at her uncertain and stammering self (introversion) and I'm 
a schmuck (true enough) who not only didn't get his computer fixed 
but stopped any immediate positive outflow from my wife.  The only 
good thing I can say about it is at least I was smart enough to 
realize it and make it right.  Wanna mess somebody up?  Get them to 
watch every move they make and every word that comes out of their 
mouth - that's introversion and it's bad.

Jeff




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
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   You can take it back as many levels as you like,
   but still the bottom line is that something
   *else* has to happen before you see through the
   trick.
  
  That's what everyone who is attached to attachment says.  :-)
 
 Says Barry, staying intransigently attached
 to his putdowns.

I've been on this forum several months and have been subject to my 
share of putdowns.  It's opinions.  I'll let others decide for 
themselves which opinions are valuable or which ones are off the wall.

The attachment I see here is trying to be right and prove to everyone 
that you are.  The baggage from alt med is getting old for me.  
There's been a spate of spats and my opinion is they don't prove 
anything.  Only that you want everyone to see how mean or unfair or 
whatever, Barry is.  

I don't write this to incite a discussion of this.  You are 
intelligent and sincere.  But whenever Barry writes anything, I know 
what slant is coming from you.  I don't see him intentionally trying 
to slam you or go after you (my opinion/observation).  If it's so 
obvious that he is, you'll get more mileage out of letting others see 
how slanted he is and leaving it at that.  There are some pretty 
smart, perceptive people on this forum.

I'm sure people are aware of my view on anti depressants and I'm now 
aware of their opinion of my opinion.  OK.  That topic has run its 
course.  The Barry thing has certainly run its course for me.  I got 
how you feel about him.  I require no more proof, but appreciate the 
warning.

Jeff







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-25 Thread Jeff Fischer
 One thing I have noted is that any trace of judgementalism in one of 
my 
 posts comes back to me a hundred fold. And I don't have to wait very 
long.
 
 L B S

Isn't instant karma supposed to be a good thing? :-)





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