Re: [FairfieldLife] If you can see a Stripper, and see the bliss inside
I like strippers, does that mean I'm enlightened? - Original Message - From: grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] If you can see a Stripper, and see the bliss inside If you can keep your silence when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you; If you can see a stripper when others taunt you Yet see the bliss inside the two, If you can trust yourself and your ideals, Yet thrill to others' voices and their visions If you can do a job worth doing, not quick and dirty deals, if you can be ecstatic in a palace or a prison .. Be grateful whether the race is lost or won Then Heaven and Earth are yours my son To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Norman Rockwell
It's supposed to feel very warm and loving. - Original Message - From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Norman Rockwell Somewhere along the way I picked up that a golden shower was a sexual fetish where one is urinated upon. So there you have it. And no, I have never had the experience. The first I heard about it was from a customer friend who grew up in California, and I recall hearing it periodically a few times since then. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Yeah, Lurk -- we all want to know just exactly what you think the words meant. I mean, we want details, we want adjectives, we want action verbs, we want pictures in our heads. Let us have it, dude. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: Thank you, Grate Swan. As I read about your recent conversation with His Excellency, I did indeed feel golden showers of bliss raining down on me. It was a very beautiful experience. I am also going to dry and fade my cloth now. Come on science. Let's keep this conversation family friendly. Lurkernomore: I am confused What part of my posting above is not family-friendly? You are obviously reading something that you think is really terrible into my post and I cannot see it. Please let me know. I can't help being innocent about the TMO and expressing my beautiful experiences - even if it displeases some people in this group who don't like me for it...:( But the good news is that here is some humor in your post - there is something positive and life-affirming in everyone if we look at hard enough and you and your post is no exception: The idea of FFL being part of a sort of Normal Rockwell family scene sitting at their individual computers after supper reading FFL brings up a whole new level of images: Heaven on Earth Family Life: Maharishi's Vedic Science as the Fulfillment of Norman Rockwell. If a picture wasn't going very well, I'd put a puppy in it. ~ Norman Rockwell. Science Science To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Guys
I forgive you all, even the AMT people. Why can't we all just get along? I proclaim the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment for FFLife and for the Whole Universe. Nabby, I forgive you for being a total moron. You can come back now. I won't call Benjamin Creme Been Jammin Creme any longer. I swear it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
You didn't have my POV, why? - Original Message - From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews TM cannot exist without the TMO. Warts and all, it is the only organization capable of teaching TM so that it remains TM, a simple mental technique, rather than some watered down version that loses its effectiveness. Maharishi's great gift to the world was a systematic way to allow the mind to transcend. IMO the foundation of Maharishi's worldwide TMO is secure enough to endure leadership foibles and growing pains just as it always has. It will always have detractors, saints, dummies and TM teachers off the reservation who will teach, who knows what. Regardless, the TMO is the only reliable glue that can hold the teaching of TM together in perpetuity or at least for a very long time. I am the eternal, thinks the TMO kitsch and crowns are funny and since the TM works as advertised, he is content to let sleeping dogs lie. So don't bother telling him about other meditations. I agree with Eternal. I give TMO goofiness a pass because TM works as advertised However, TM critics, each from unique perspectives, routinely argue, TM does not work. Let's start with the usual suspects. Curtis: TM doesn't work for me and besides, most people stop TM. Obviously, it doesn't work for them either. So, you arrogant bunch of SOB's, don't presume you have the keys to a kingdom that does not exist or mislead children into practicing a religion, which will eventually disappoint them as I have been. Barry, master of non-sequitur: TM doesn't work? Well, neither does Purusha for that matter. Edg: Apart from his disappointment with himself and the TMO, I really don't know what Edg thinks about TM and whether or not it works. Vaj: Uhm..Buddhist meditation good, TM bad. TM not work. (Bonk!) Take that, TM vermin! Vaj exclaims as he projectile vomits longwinded Google posts about the minutia of superior Buddhist meditation. Fie! TM'er scum will reincarnate as dogs and cats! says he. The most interesting and personally encouraging thing I discovered in this thread is that there are a few TMO critics who, although they think TM works, their only real complaint is about the TMO's perceived flaws and not TM. Somehow, they have managed to appreciate the value of TM despite everything else being up for grabs in the TMO grumble machine. Here is the difficulty; defining exactly what is a wrong with the TMO is debatable and IMO, ultimately unimportant. Guyfawkes: TM on its own is pretty good, I quite like it.It's a poison that gets into the group psyche, just like Bush and his minions getting off on torturing people. Over the top hyperbole, much? Comparing TMO to Bush torturers? Really? The TMO has definitely got the poison and it will be the end of the TMO because it is the antithesis of what they're supposed to achieve. The TMO will always have a new crop of unattractive warts popping up here and there who ever ends up running the show in the future. Every organization has a political life whose leadership wrestles with its mission for better or worse. We can complain endlessly about the TMO but I don't doubt that TM will prevail on its own merits regardless of TMO buffoonery. The best thing that can be said about TM in this situation is that at least the calming influence stops the more extreme elements going around getting physically violent with people. Well, thank God for that. Heaven knows, that had it not been for the calming effect of TM, those extreme TMers (who happen to be underweight vegetarians) just might have organized a pogrom against the non-TMers of Fairfield, marshaled some righteous pitchforks and poked non-believers in the ass until they agreed to learn TM. Which is what normally happens when people get the idea that they're so noble that they should dominate the rest of humanity. It's just mental and verbal violence. Armies, dominate. TM'ers meditate. I just don't get it that anyone needs to fear a few guys wearing crowns and robes. Think of it as playing dress up. Catholic priests wear some pretty cool robes and hats as well. Don't sweat the small stuff. Enjoy the view. The people in the audience now have a proper answer to their question what do you mean by invincibility. At the time DL tried to fudge the answer to mean peace and love, but now we know it's the same invincibility that Hitler wanted, smash your enemies and make everyone fear you. Again, this is over the top hyperbole. Maharishi never spoke of invincibility in the sense that Hitler thought of it, and you know it. Guyfawkes, you and I may agree or disagree about the shenanigans of the TMO but despite it all, I am grateful that we can agree that TM works. It gives me hope that people will continue to learn and enjoy TM for many years to come.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love
I am sorry Tom you feel this way. When you have a real change of heart then maybe I will consider you a real friend. Until then I really cannot trust you. Peace out... - Original Message - From: I am the eternal To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:17 PM, satvadude108 wrote: Do you get the feeling that every once in a while various people here go off their meds, the results being these disturbed-sounding rants? Sal Both of you, Barry, Marek and Edward can kiss my ass. I do not need or welcome a diagnosis from any of you. If I want one I can call up one of my shrink friends and ask them for one. It was Barry's Marek's and Edward's diagnosis and characterization of me that pissed me off at them and keeps me pissed off at them. I don't appreciate being slammed by people, including in the current posts I'm replying to. Regarding prior activities in FFL, if you took the time to look, you would have seen that the actions then were the result of yet more being characterized, once again as a racist. I believe the words were about the destruction of New Orleans, specifically the French Quarter. Well guess what? I'm still looking forward to a storm destroying New Orleans and specifically the French Quarter. And yes, I'm one of the people hoping Yahoo will delete FFL. Blow it away and maybe there might just be a bit of dignity and politeness to replace it. It is one thing for me to say I'm a racist, if indeed I did. But it's yet another for me to be slammed. Nobody, not even Nabby, has had to take such abuse here as I've had to over the years. Now think about that, Enlightened Ones.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
Been jamming cream? - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: They're clearly quite scared and they should be. Their efforts will fail if the reality of their situation is made known. Thus spoke Vaj, the voice of irrelevance. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
Thus spake Nowblusus, the voice of Bevan Morris' butt. - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: They're clearly quite scared and they should be. Their efforts will fail if the reality of their situation is made known. Thus spoke Vaj, the voice of irrelevance. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
Amen, Man! - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Kirk wrote: Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva scares away all ghouls. Jesus saves! Amen, brother! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
Invincibility booo b Invincibility booo b Invincibility booo b Invincibility booo b Must be a new sutra they are worried will give away some secret Invincibility booo b Invincibility booo b You fucking Nazi now acting like fucking Nazis Invincibility booo b Invincibility booo b
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job
I'll get back to you on the questions and I'll file this away. We will start working on cooking things and presentation this weekend and get into the other details later. As with most new restaurants we are working on the liquor license. The cooks will also wait tables in an odd twist. The chef wishes for the cooks to retain all the potential cash from the operation. Again, I'll keep this letter and get back to you about this in about two weeks with some menus and so on. We have an alley in the French Quarter to sit tables in. Otherwise the building is presently 170 years old. Galleries up and down the block including popular local artist Michalopoulos. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job Thanks Kirk! Now that was an in-depth reply -- gotta love your positive energy. You drew a nice portrait of your circumstance, and I think you're onto something there. Hope it all gels as you hope. And, hellfuckingyeah I'd love to walk into your restaurant and get a blast of the presentation's shakti. My family was in the restaurant business -- not your finest kind but the industrial lunch bucket type, and I've worked in four star restaurants, so I have experienced a whole range of presentations in my past, and, this gives me a basis for resonating with your write-up of your restaurant's eventual embodiment's energy. Me want some! And, yeah, Kirk and Curtis, I was being twitty to question what you could get out of yet more spices. I salute your commitment to continuing education. What's the pricing going to be for your menu? Sounds like $20 - 30 range. Big wine list with a sommelier? Maitre 'd? How many seats? Window views nice? Outdoor seating? Got an address for us to do Google maps and see your location location location? Big dessert menu? A bar? What kind of decorations? -- paintings, hangings, plants? What garb for the waiters? -- tuxedos, uniforms, bow ties, aprons, or pirate shirts? Hee hee. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: I'll try to answer (read in). - Original Message - From: Duveyoung To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Hi guys I am starting to work at a new and fascinating restaurant in Exchange Place in the French Quarter. Kirk, What kind of research do you do to be on top of the restaurant scene in NOLA? Is there local coverage via newspaper columnist, or TV show, or tourist guidebooks? Of course there is coverage but I care little for it. Word of mouth is the main thing. Plus being a cook and having worked so many places I know pretty much what is going on in the city. Fine restaurants in general wont hire me because I cost too much. My resume isn't good enough for me to claim chef at any of them. They demand CIA or equivalent education. And, fine restaurants around here all pay homage to Cajun/Creole food or French and few (or none) really break out and go wild with their concepts. For instance, one can freeze coconut milk and then serve excellent rum on coconut ice cubes. Sometimes simple and obvious things take a really alert chef to make notes and then enact. The chef Chris Debarre is a genius and for once I stand to learn a lot of new cooking ingredients and techniques. All these years you've been a passionate chef yourself -- can there really be ingredients that you can say are new to you? There's always new ingredients. To use Curtis' analogy, one can be a great blues player and yet there will always be new songs and varieties on style which are even more aluring having had some background in the first place. Also, as Curtis said, ethnic cuisines are various and discrete and proper use of ideal ingredients makes all the difference. My background is mostly New Orleans Metro French and Creole. Almost exclusively. So I still have alot to learn. How do you know that Chris has the mojo -- has ya eaten in other places he's been the chef? Actually I haven't but word of mouth from friends of mine say he's cool. And I have met him and started work there so I know him. I am one of his sous-chefs so I am helping to formulate the menu and implement it from scratch. I am even helping remodel the place! All this makes me more integral and feel more important. That's usually the most important aspect of the job for me, that is, to not feel like a mere useless appendage. But his menu is the mojo, and between us we can tweak stuff to be entirely delicious and not merely stuck up and unusual. Seems to me that your intellect is capable of taking up your skills a notch
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
They want to stem this incendiary instance of Movement foolishness but you can be sure they will end up in lights on Guruphiliac if they haven't already. They really are losing touch with the way of the world. - Original Message - From: guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews William Goldstein contacted Natel, asking that the two unpublished chapters of MMY's Gita be removed from my webserver. When Natel called me, I wasn't near a phone, so they left a message and shut off my Internet connection. Any more heavy handedness out there that needs to be reported? Dates and names are useful. It seems to have started recently. I didn't even know about the unpublished chapters of MMY's Gita. That's extremely interesting. What's in them that they didn't want the world to know? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
Now the same ubermensh, the utterly foolish americans, the white trash of the West here on FFL try to humilate a true german ! What an utter garbagedump FFL has turned into. Hahaahahahahaha
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
What trouble ? Emmanuel did a great job in revealing the american brainwashed generation of the germans, those who objected to his words in Berlin. You might not like it but he pointed the finger of a very sensitive issue in Germany; that they were occupied by Hillbillies for generations after WWII. Hahaahahahhaha is that what passes for thought in your brain? Hahahhahahhahah
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
What trouble ? Emmanuel did a great job in revealing the american brainwashed generation of the germans, those who objected to his words in Berlin. You might not like it but he pointed the finger of a very sensitive issue in Germany; that they were occupied by Hillbillies for generations after WWII. Hahhhahhahahaha Is that what passes for thought in your brain? Haahhahhahahahha
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
What an utter garbagedump FFL has turned into. You mean you used to view it as something other than one? What he fails to realize is only a garbage dump would have him. So our loss is his gain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
That was me, not Sal. - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love Thanks Sal Yes I have an address I do not know it by heart I will send via facebook thanks --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 10:28 AM On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Kirk wrote: Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva scares away all ghouls. Jesus saves! Amen, brother! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] The wasted stench of ignorance
Buh Bye Don't let the the keyboard snap you fingers on the way out. - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The wasted stench of ignorance I'm out of FFL. It has become increasingly meaningless, perverse and negative during the last few months; a collection of crackpots who call FFL their home. Many enjoy to roll in filth; Rick Archer, the infamous rumourmonger, desperatedly bent upon disrespect, who created FFL to have an outlet for his perverse rumours about any Holy person whosoever. Vaj, Curtis the Hillbilly, the Turq and Sal comes to mind. Not to mention the new arrivals. Why would sane people like Cardemaister, Judy, Marek, drpeter and others want stay in this dump anymore ? Beats me. Please continue to enjoy rolling around in your self-created, white-trash-garbage. But if a thought arrives that a time for change has arrived: Please have a checking ! Jai Guru Dev Nablusoss To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'What's Up w/Iowa City?'
200 percent of life? Maybe surge of bliss and Heaven on earth. - Original Message - From: Robert To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'What's Up w/Iowa City?' Iowa City troubled by surge in downtown beatings Apr 23 12:36 PM US/Eastern By NIGEL DUARA Associated Press Writer IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) - Gangs of men punching people on the street at random. Street fights where bystanders sometimes cheer, and where those who try to intervene sometimes get beaten themselves. Police in this quintessential college town say there's been a dramatic rise in unprovoked beatings in the downtown area next to the University of Iowa over the last several months. Though the mix of young people and alcohol often leads to fighting, police say the intense violence and random nature of the attacks have them worried. It isn't always a matter of somebody putting themselves in harm's way, Iowa City police Sgt. Troy Kelsay said. Now it seems like it's just for the sheer pleasure of it, that's what seems to be different. Police don't break out statistics for the downtown area near campus, but they point to several disturbing incidents in the past month alone: _On March 27, a college-aged man was assaulted at about 2 a.m. downtown. Witnesses said six to 10 men ganged up on him, and when another man tried to intervene, he too was knocked unconscious. Police say the assailants then ran along a downtown street, punching other men as they passed. _On April 2, a 22-year-old man was smoking outside a downtown bar when six men approached him and asked for cigarettes. As he was handing them out, the men knocked him to the ground and took the whole pack. Later, the same man walked past a group of men who knocked him to the ground and stole his watch. _On April 6, a man woke up to bystanders helping him sit up. The man told police someone he didn't know knocked him unconscious. He didn't realize his jaw was broken until a hospital visit the next afternoon. _On April 16, two college-age men stepped outside a bar to smoke at about 1:15 a.m. After an argument with others, one of the men was pushed to the ground, then kicked and punched by several people. He suffered a broken nose and a head cut requiring staples to close. I really don't understand the motivation for the violence, Iowa City Mayor Regenia Bailey said. It's severe and concerning that people find this acceptable and people are seeking this out. Kelsay said police have stepped up late-night patrols downtown, but they have had a hard time tracking down suspects because they usually can't find witnesses. And sometimes those who see a beating actually cheer on the attackers, he said. It's become an unfortunate part of the bar culture in Iowa City, Kelsay said. Some Iowa City officials think a recent proliferation of bars and liquor stores downtown is partly to blame. There are 46 businesses permitted to sell liquor in the nine-square-block area next to the 29,000-student campus—a 50 percent increase from a decade ago. Next month, the City Council will consider a measure backed by a planning commission that would require future bars to be 500 feet apart and ensure 1,000 feet between liquor stores. City officials earlier rejected such moves. With too much of a concentration (of establishments) such as bars and liquor stores, it becomes overburdened with that type of use, said Karen Howard, an associate planner in the city's Urban Planning Department. We want to have a downtown that's open not just in the evening, but to a whole variety of people. Bailey said the city also has sought help from the University of Iowa. Together, the school and city launched an alcohol summit in March to address binge drinking and suggest nonalcoholic alternatives. Students acknowledge there's a problem, but few seem intent on resolving the situation. It's easy to blame alcohol, said 20-year-old Justin Boltz, an Iowa undergraduate. I don't know if there's a solution. Thomas Reynolds, a 19-year-old Iowa student, said he noticed the violence picking up last summer, when a friend was hospitalized after being beaten by a man asking for a cigarette. But Reynolds also seemed resigned to the problem and didn't think the city's zoning plan would help much. Then they'll just make the bars bigger, Reynolds said. You'll still see 100 people outside.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I see Bevan has been polishing his thumbscrews
I don't know; I didn't read them. A link to them was posted on FFL, and I put them on my server because that's what I do with interesting TM-related stuff that comes my way. I will no longer be a source for those files, but there's probably someone else on FFL who can get them to you, if you want to read them. ---But I'll tell you what they say. Answer to everything is Turiyah and TM. Okay?
[FairfieldLife] New Job
Hi guys I am starting to work at a new and fascinating restaurant in Exchange Place in the French Quarter. The chef Chris Debarre is a genius and for once I stand to learn a lot of new cooking ingredients and techniques. He has made the menu partially vegetarian and explores uses of exotic fruits and juices as well as ethnic cuisine. We are sure to spark a new culinary enthusiasm in the city. I will write the menu down for you when it is finalized. Peace for now. Loves Yahs.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Job
Merci Beaucoup. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Job On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Kirk wrote: Hi guys I am starting to work at a new and fascinating restaurant in Exchange Place in the French Quarter. The chef Chris Debarre is a genius and for once I stand to learn a lot of new cooking ingredients and techniques. He has made the menu partially vegetarian and explores uses of exotic fruits and juices as well as ethnic cuisine. We are sure to spark a new culinary enthusiasm in the city. I will write the menu down for you when it is finalized. Peace for now. Loves Yahs. Just what you shared sounds fantastic and exciting. Bon chance!
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Job
- Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] New Job From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kirk Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Job Hi guys I am starting to work at a new and fascinating restaurant in Exchange Place in the French Quarter. The chef Chris Debarre is a genius and for once I stand to learn a lot of new cooking ingredients and techniques. He has made the menu partially vegetarian and explores uses of exotic fruits and juices as well as ethnic cuisine. We are sure to spark a new culinary enthusiasm in the city. I will write the menu down for you when it is finalized. Peace for now. Loves Yahs. That's great, Kirk. Does the restaurant have a web site? Not yet. But we use many strange ingredients like huitlacoche. We will make huitlacoche, fern shoot, and spiced tomato dosas for one thing. I will tell more after we finalize the menu and so on.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job
I'll try to answer (read in). - Original Message - From: Duveyoung To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Hi guys I am starting to work at a new and fascinating restaurant in Exchange Place in the French Quarter. Kirk, What kind of research do you do to be on top of the restaurant scene in NOLA? Is there local coverage via newspaper columnist, or TV show, or tourist guidebooks? Of course there is coverage but I care little for it. Word of mouth is the main thing. Plus being a cook and having worked so many places I know pretty much what is going on in the city. Fine restaurants in general wont hire me because I cost too much. My resume isn't good enough for me to claim chef at any of them. They demand CIA or equivalent education. And, fine restaurants around here all pay homage to Cajun/Creole food or French and few (or none) really break out and go wild with their concepts. For instance, one can freeze coconut milk and then serve excellent rum on coconut ice cubes. Sometimes simple and obvious things take a really alert chef to make notes and then enact. The chef Chris Debarre is a genius and for once I stand to learn a lot of new cooking ingredients and techniques. All these years you've been a passionate chef yourself -- can there really be ingredients that you can say are new to you? There's always new ingredients. To use Curtis' analogy, one can be a great blues player and yet there will always be new songs and varieties on style which are even more aluring having had some background in the first place. Also, as Curtis said, ethnic cuisines are various and discrete and proper use of ideal ingredients makes all the difference. My background is mostly New Orleans Metro French and Creole. Almost exclusively. So I still have alot to learn. How do you know that Chris has the mojo -- has ya eaten in other places he's been the chef? Actually I haven't but word of mouth from friends of mine say he's cool. And I have met him and started work there so I know him. I am one of his sous-chefs so I am helping to formulate the menu and implement it from scratch. I am even helping remodel the place! All this makes me more integral and feel more important. That's usually the most important aspect of the job for me, that is, to not feel like a mere useless appendage. But his menu is the mojo, and between us we can tweak stuff to be entirely delicious and not merely stuck up and unusual. Seems to me that your intellect is capable of taking up your skills a notch by hanging with another genius, but from my side, as an inventor myself, you surely must be at that stage where you can turn out a new dish every single time you cook, and it'll be as creative and savory as any dish that any chef can create. 98% of the customers surely wouldn't have the chops to say that your menu is less inviting than this chef's menu, so what's your goal? -I can write menus from scratch and they would be unique, but working with even more unique or more worldly chefs still broadens my purview. I can't lose by expanding my range. I can only win. Moreover, I work best as partners with others due to my own lack of motivation. My goal is to be associated with one of the most avant garde chefs in the country. The fact that he isn't known yet means little. I have faith that he will make it to the top and you will all hear about him within a few years, if not immediately. Then I can thumb my nose at all those who derided me. his smarts to hire me equal my smarts in working for him. I'm not sure how but we hit it off from the start and he has been entirely personable to me thus far. I can understand working with another chef, and hoping to secure a stable position of respect there, but as for you as an artist, I can't see you becoming more creative -- only creating more dishes in this chef's cuisine. Are you searching for your inner cuisine -- your artistic style or genre? -No. I have my style, but I am always seeking to broaden my range and become more eclectic and knowledgable. It's an insiders brag to know and use not only fine ingredients but to have a knowledge of and use of unique ingredients. This is about the only chance I have had in the last ten years to work with a fine chef, who isn't myself. Who really has a more extensive palette than me. And, the really important question is, aside from your excitement at the new prospect, and other than your intuitive powers (which are potent if your posts are any indication,) what has you assured that this chef's personality will be harmonious with yours? Isn't that as important as the chef's credentials and skills? ---Yes, well so far he respects me and defers to my input
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Job
I forgot a few other points. First Green Goddess is the only place in New Orleans that is doing a partially vegetarian menu of new items which are not just trying to imitate meat dishes. I have been wanting to work someplace with a more sattvic plan and this is the only place there is. Also, the chef and the other owner were also punk rockers before in their life. One still plays in a couple punk bands so we have that in common. The fact that the chef's wife is Poppy Z Brite a unique local author means we will have press. I feel that this is the place for me. Oh yeah, I have lived a fairly social life, never eschewing a party or excuse to play around. But after all that I have heard myself talk until I am sick of hearing myself. In the same light, I have been chef about five times and twice getting to write my own menus and I have done prettymuch everything I have felt like doing, so I like to let other people take the reigns and to support them if they are genuinely interesting. This is such a case where I will be interested and the fact that the menu will not be written in stone, the fact that we will be making coctails with coffee bean juice and dragonberry, and cashew juice and so on is really fascinating to me. There's no limit to what we will do. Very few reataurants in the world can claim this. And we are in New Orleans where we do have already a native sense of propriety in cuisine so I am merely inspired. All bullshit aside, if I have to work I like to be cutting edge. I invite you all to step in when you're in town. Naughty or nice.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts
Funny, but I thought you were talking about Vedic Waterboarding. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: Aren't ample breasts the two fullnesses? Hello Bhairatu. The historic mistake of the intellect has been that ample breasts were two fullnesses. Maharishi's Worldwide Movement has now corrected this error through the experiences of millions of enlightened men in this generation and several hundred scientific research studies completed by independent investigators in leading universities. Today, as Heaven on Earth has been achieved due to the rapidly increasing practice of Maharishi's programs throughout the world, enlightened men are experiencing the bliss of unity in ample breasts - ever-deepening waves of fullness at the level of the point value of life as they joyfully play with the ample breasts on the surface level of life. Absolutely. Have you ever seen a painting of a statue of a Hindu goddess who didn't have ample breasts? I rest my case. I have heard, in fact, that the TMO is about to announce a new course, supposedly more effective than the TM-siddhis. The new technique will be called Yogic Motorboating. Do not confuse this Vedic- based technique with the more mundane desc- ription of motorboating: The act of pushing one's face in between two ample breasts and rocking one's head side to side very rapidly while making a vigorous, lip-vibrating 'brrr' sound. Not the same thing at all. Yogic Motorboating is to regular motorboating as the butt-bouncing of Yogic Flying is to...uh...is to... Sorry... I can't really think of any parallel to Yogic Flying in the mundane world...forget I even brought it up. Anyway, the first Yogic Motorboating courses will be offered soon at Maharishi Peace Palaces throughout the world. While the target audience for these courses is of course men -- who are, after all, the only ones who matter in the TM view of spirituality -- exceptions will be made for lesbians and Hillary Clinton supporters, as long as they agree to practice the technique in a different Motorboating Dome than the men. Catch the buzz today. Motorboat your way to true enlightenment. D-cups for D-stressing. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Are Runes, Astrology and Other Ancient Paths Connected?
Then tell us here what it is. I hate navigating away from here. I am too attached to leave. Sorry. - Original Message - From: beno beno To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Are Runes, Astrology and Other Ancient Paths Connected? I have discovered, over the course of 24 years, a new system of metaphysics that combines and sythesizes all of the following into one great whole, like pieces of a great jigsaw puzzle: astrology, tarot, I Ching, runes, the Tolkin (Mayan calendar), the Enneagram, Wm. B. Yeates' A Vision, Messages From Michael on soul age, and even blood type analysis, DNA, amino acids and proteins. This is the Rosetta Stone of ancient mysteries. I even calculate all my own values and show how they match with currently accepted values. Please, take a look: http://logos.13gems.com/ Note: This is NOT nor ever will be a commercial site. beno If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace.--Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts
I agree, this is gross. These fellows are beyond checking. Is FFL now being swamped with the extreme fools from alt.tm, from where the Turq also came ? I believe Turq first came on your face, before he came here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Book Review: Under The Thumb Of Cult Leader Sri Chinmoy
What do you know of Sri Chinmoy, Nabby? Probably nothing first hand. Neither do I. I just noticed the article in NHNE News, written by someone who had grown up with him, and forwarded it here as I assumed, correctly, that it might interest people. Do you have any evidence or experience to refute what the woman wrote? No but after getting buttfucked by Ben Creme he will take just about any guru's cock in his mouth and slurp on it until it explodes all over him and consider it vibhuti.
[FairfieldLife] Benjamin Creme
Been Jammin Cream
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love
Do you still meditate? Your story sounds awful. Simple truth is if you meditate with no thought of vengeance and try to forgive them then their karma will have no hooks to sink into you and will return to them. So do not play on their level. I suggest buying some redraksha. If you have a mailing address I will send you some free. Reach me through Facebook when you're ready. Shiva scares away all ghouls. - Original Message - From: pranamoocher To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brasil Law and Brasil Love You need help alright- help to stop posting insane messages and asking others to bail yourself out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm...@... wrote: Jai Guru Dev In case you have wondered where went Louis In 2004 I had a reconnect with a woman. I spoke to her by phone for a friend who found her on an internet dating site. I advised my friend that it was better that I not talk to this woman again, but as it was in the time of Carnival 2004 and everything closes in Brasil during Carnival, he insisted that I give her a call. I did. When he came to Brasil she was two months pregnant... Today after living together for 4 years I live in a town called Sorocaba where my son lives with his mother, her mother, his uncle, his wife and my son´s sister. The grandmother is a woman in her 60´s illiterate as far as education goes, yet very viscious as life goes. I louis thomas Mckenzie was not trained at MIU, UCSD or COLUMBIA or NYU or New Seminary in how to deal with a person like this. A mother pimp she lived off money given to her from three daughters that she assisted in becoming prostitutes. A woman who with her husband took all of their ten children out of school by the age of 10, or after the 4th grade. In Brasil they use all kinds of natural law manipulatives in order to effect the desired result. In 2007 Maria A was told that if I recieved an investment in my company in Brasil her daughter would go to jail. She was told this by a woman who channels gypsies and other devil spirits and is specialized in doing harm to people for money. They decided to do everything and anything they could to break up my family and make sure that I did not receive my funding. (This is no longer hypothesis it has been verified and is now fact) By the end of 2007 we could not receive any money via western union in our names in Brasil. From 2008 January to June we received a total of 1500 usd, compared to the year before in which we recieved 15000 in the same period. In July of 2008 we had to move to Sorocaba because we lost our apt in Sao Paulo. one week after arriving I was asked to please leave the apt of my mother in law because her daughter who paid her rent did not want me there. I took a hotel room. Since that day the strangeness just got stranger and stranger until today, I am an american with a brazilian born child who is bound by brazilian law which says that no matter how bad the living situation is the child belongs with the mother. The law says that even no matter what if the mother or father does not sign an agreement to allow it is not possible to leave the country with the child. So in order for me to come back to the US and get a job I would have to abandon my child. I have refused to do so. I have had things happen like hotels asking ne to leave after paying 11,000 reais = 5000 usd while trying to arrange a new credit card. The person who was willing to assist me was hit by a truck returning home to send the card info. I had to spend some time sleeping in a plaza. Between the financial crisis and other things my funds have been severly delayed. I am now in a situation where I live in a garage. Share a very small space with a nother guy, I sleep on the floor. Seems I have been unaable to recieve even 10 cents from the US lately. Recently it seems I may be getting closer to breaking this thing with this gypsy but I am still suffering. I know there are some people who do not like it when people write about personal situations but all I can say is that the guy who was on television regarding his 4 year old son I know that story because I am living it. I NEED HELP.. Louis JGD
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Book Review: Under The Thumb Of Cult Leader Sri Chinmoy
Sorry, but I been jammin cream. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Book Review: Under The Thumb Of Cult Leader Sri Chinmoy On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: What do you know of Sri Chinmoy, Nabby? Probably nothing first hand. Neither do I. I just noticed the article in NHNE News, written by someone who had grown up with him, and forwarded it here as I assumed, correctly, that it might interest people. Do you have any evidence or experience to refute what the woman wrote? No but after getting buttfucked by Ben Creme he will take just about any guru's cock in his mouth and slurp on it until it explodes all over him and consider it vibhuti. Kirk, you must be tired after your first day of work. Nap time. Now! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you help?
What specifically is human design and what value does it have. What are potential forms of restructuring one goes though after? - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you help? On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Rick Archer wrote: The cost is $100 per reading and would take place after my return from the course. Uh, oh... (It is in London at the end of June.) The highest first would be to take Taalia and my sister with me. My sister would pay her own way and come to take Taalia around London while I'm on the course. What an opportunity for Taalia to grow! We would share hotel and transportation costs. I am confident you would feel that your investment would be worth the reading I would do for you. Is there a $$-back guarantee if you don't? $100 is a very good price for a Human Design reading, I paid $350 for my first human design reading.. MIght explain why she's short of funds now, after throwing away $$ on stuff like this. mine did not have the Integral aspect added to it. The Integral aspect--gotta have the Integral! If you have already had one or two readings from me, please know there is much more to cover if you are so inclined. Hmmm...for another fee, I would guess. I will need quite a few participants in order to pull this off. If you are willing to help me out, please let me know ASAP, if I register by April 26 it will save $100 off the price of the course. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth
Is like internet connection which is only as fast as the slowest link.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star
Benjamin Creme will die before mankind is Ready; as will you, Nabby. IOW, it won't happen. I hope you have a Plan B, Nabby - Life without Maitreya as the revealed and physically present Master. May you adjust to that reality well. Peace. My question is what would change if Maitreya appeared?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star
My question is what would change if Maitreya appeared? That's a good question, and I meant to compliment you on your post about this yesterday. Gurus can be a help and an inspiration, but ultimately, significant change has to be accomplished by and within each individual. There have been plenty of world teachers throughout history, and look where we are today. It's naive to assume that another one is going to change everything dramatically. But some people live on hopes and dreams. Thank you. Moreover, look at accusations against Sai Baba. even before he was labled a fraud many people went to him and were blown away by his seeming lack of compassion. People who go humble themselves in front of him do so out of selfishness, or at best out of relative selfishness, meaning they go and pray for their own benefit or the benefit of others they know. Most often people who leave his presence without having gotten what they came for leave the worse for the wear with their dreams and hopes belittled. Someone of even greater hype will engage people's neuroseses even more. Expectations about life and even more relating to masters and avatars are even higher. In short people will become even more put off by religion and spirituality when they don't get what they came for. Any master declaring that their acolytes should be better and give up selfishness and so on will be merely not heard just as they were not heard yesterday. The rare miracle is only beneficial for the rare person. The experiences of unity and other psychic and unique gifts merely separate people further into haves and have-nots. Also each new guru brings a new separation between people. Maitreya will never be accepted by all people even if he does miracles and proves them in front of science. there's really little value in avatars and mystical gurus for the untrained. For those of such a bent who have fulfilled the necessary preliminaries to such mystical schools only those persons may value from such an implausable education. Finally, the very subject of God is basically imaginary and anti-reason. Thus the whole idea of some avatar coming to retrain humanity is itself atavistic and would set humankind back into the Dark Ages. Such a thing only has value during a Stephen King - like apocalypse. Where the very survival of humankind is at risk. And even then such messiahs could be the very key which turns on final destruction. There is no state of readiness for Maitreya that will ever come, just as one is never ready when their house catches on fire. Ben Creme is a schizophrenic, just as are the multitudes of channelers. I have seen a channeler altogether lose her mind and go into insane fits of hysteria when under the guise of her persona. It's rather scary. To follow such mad people is itself even crazier!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star
PS, an interesting book about these people and gurus in short is called The Spiritual Tourist, by Mick Brown.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star
Can you spell psycho? - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: You mean like if they get sick of being denied cigarettes and betel leaf? No, rather being fed up being in a country populated with fools like you. But they never get to meet me because they live behind a fence. I can anticipate your response to that one. If I had to breath the same air as you in that ridicelous little town I also would wish to be very, very far away. Fairfield was and is an e x p e r i m e n t implemented by the Masters. If it does not work out, for sure the attention will go elsewhere and that silly little town will be left to rot. Along with the spiritual vampires of Fairfield until now basking in the glow of the achievements of the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Craigslist sex
Bob, are you considering I caution against it! - Original Message - From: bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Craigslist sex Luckily for Melvin, what he had wandered into was something a bit more poignant: the woman who had answered his ad was obese and didn't want Melvin to see her body. It was sad, very sad, he said, but she was a nice girl and we talked for two hours before we went in the bedroom and did what we did. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/fashion/19craigslist.html To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers
It's too vague to be legally binding. Any document including the terms heaven on earth or satya yuga, etc, could never be proven in a court of law. It's just a statement of intent, not legally binding. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers An anonymous contributor to the TM-Free blog has submitted what appears to be the actual legal agreement signed by the 300+ TM Teachers as part of the first recertification course. This is IMO relevant to the latest DLF efforts because it can be assumed that 1) only official recertified TM Teachers will be allowed to teach TM to students as a part of the DLF prog- ram, and 2) what they *agreed to* to *become* recertified teachers might just be relevant to what it is that they will actually teach or promote *in addition to* TM. Please bear in mind when reading the following agreement that the marketing plan of the TMO when it was signed was to sell TM in shopping malls. Each of the recertified teachers sign- ing this agreement then, and presumably signing similar agreements in the time since, were agree- ing to work full-time for the TM movement, in exchange for $4000 a month for life. (This was seemingly revised after the fact to become not a fixed salary but a percentage of the income generated by their efforts.) Thus *some* of the particulars in the agreement below are no longer in effect, the ones dealing with setting up enlightenment franchises in shopping malls. HOWEVER, what I would like to see the TM supporters on this forum explain is the agreement to offer the 55 Peace Palace services and types of products. Having signed a legal agreement to do so, WHY in your opinion should we expect these recertified TM Teachers to limit themselves to teaching ONLY TM to the students involved in the DLF program? Having signed this agreement or one similar to it, are they not legally and morally bound to sell *other* TM products and programs as well? Will they attempt to segregate the Quiet Time classes by gender, as they have agreed to do below, to maintain the two channels of activities-for men and ladies? Will they pressure the students (as they agreed to do) to invest in World Peace Bonds, donations, and membership fees? Which do you think will win out for these teachers -- the charter of the David Lynch Foun- dation to teach TM and only TM, or their previous agreement with the TM organization to offer the 55 Peace Palace services and types of products and do the *other* things they agreed to do? I wait with 'bated breath to hear the TM supporters give their opinion on these questions. ** RESOLUTION OF THE GOVERNORS OF THE AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT ON THE AUSPICIOUS DAY OF R#256;M NAVAMI OF THE VEDIC CALENDAR I resolve today on the auspicious day of R#257;m Navami of the Vedic Calendar, April 18, 2005, to be an exponent of Total Knowledge of Natural Law for my city and for the 4-5 surrounding towns of which I will take care-to bring all the programs of Vedic Education, Vedic Health, Vedic Architecture, Vedic Organic Agriculture, Vedic Music, Vedic Economy, and Vedic Administration, as brought to light by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, by establishing Peace Palaces that will bring enlightenment to the population under my care and create a powerful influence of harmony and coherence and permanent world peace with Invincibility for every nation. In order to achieve this, I will dedicate myself full time to the activity of Director of the Peace Palace, and undertake to start my activity by: . Maintaining my long program morning and evening . Never engaging in anything that I know to be wrong . Renting space for a Peace Palace office in a mall or similar facility . Arranging for secretarial services for each location . Advertising in local and regional newspapers, amongst others . Offering the 55 Peace Palace services and types of products in each Peace Palace . Opening a local bank account . Maintaining the two channels of activities-for men and ladies . Finding 4-5 assistants initially, and soon after, 4-5 assistants for each location under my care . Engaging 4 massage therapists straight away for the first location, and soon after, for each location under my care . Locating the land for Peace Palace construction and for Peace Colonies to offer Vastu homes to the population of the city . Using the computerized system of administration The 55 items of activity and services of the Peace Palaces include the World Peace Bonds, donations, and membership fees, which it will be my joy to utilize in raising at least one half the cost of one Peace Palace in order to have a groundbreaking ceremony for that city. I will go on to join the Raja Training-having organized the construction of the Peace Palace to start and be completed by
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools
He screams flamer, the wife and I agree. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools On Apr 19, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Mike Doughney wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... quoted: Professor Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D. (who received his weight in gold in 1998 for his extraordinary scientific discoveries... Continuing the theme of pompous madness... a video of the stunt of Nader on the scale, followed by his coronation as king, is also up on the net:http://tinyurl.com/nader-gold-stunt Over the course of thirty minutes or so, you can watch the metamorphosis of Tony Nader into His Majesty Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam, complete with bagpipes thrown into the mix. There is no way that the idea of TM in schools can be taken seriously when the antics of these lunatics who ultimately run the TMO can be easily viewed. Heck, you can even download the video onto an iPod and pass it around at school board meetings wherever this silly notion of allowing people sympathetic to this madness anywhere near schools is introduced! Holy shit, just when you think you've seen it all! Thanks for posting this insanity, Mike--the scale is an absolute hoot. Has Nader given up all pretense of sanity himself? And how anybody can maintain that Bevan is anything but a flaming fag after hearing him here is beyond me. And poor MMY looked barely awake, that was pretty tough to watch. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers
There are no recerts here on FFLife to say anything. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: It's too vague to be legally binding. Any document including the terms heaven on earth or satya yuga, etc, could never be proven in a court of law. Not to mention saying bye-bye to Kali Yuga. :-) It's just a statement of intent, not legally binding. While this is true, and while like other TM contracts the signee probably did not get his or her own copy (which renders it void legally), there is the argument put forth by TM defenders here when some TM Teacher who in the past signed a similarly non-legal contract violated his vow by either teach- ing TM outside of the TMO, telling what the mantras were, etc. In those cases, if I remember correctly, the TM apologists tried to make a case for Well, it may not be legally binding, but it is *morally* binding. They tried to imply that if the TM Teacher they were trying to demonize did *NOT* honor his word that he or she was a slime whose word could not be trusted. And/or his/her claim to be teaching TM the way he was taught by Maharishi, only outside the TMO could not and should not be believed. If those SAME TM apologists now turn around and say that because *this* agreement is probably non-binding these recertified TM Teachers should feel NO NEED to honor it, that'll be a tad hypocritical, yes? My contention is that anyone stupid enough to pay *twice* to become a TM Teacher is going to feel not only obligated to honor this agreement, legal or not, they're going to fear going to Hell if they *don't* honor it. That's the way someone that fanatical would think. My point -- and the question that the TM apologists here will probably be too afraid to deal with -- is that if someone like that says to a prospective DLF target school, I will teach nothing but vanilla TM...I promise, SHOULD THEY BE BELIEVED? Given the fact that they were fanatical enough to pay for TTC *twice* just because Maharishi told them to, and given the fact that they signed this agree- ment, which do you think they're going to honor -- the previous agreement (in which they promised to sell everything TM), or the DLF agreement (in which they will probably have to agree to teach only TM). My money is on them feeling a sense of moral honor (if not legal obligation) to honor the contract with (in their view) God and Guru Dev, rather than the legal one. But let's hear what the True Believers here have to say, if they *have* anything to say, that is... :-) - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers An anonymous contributor to the TM-Free blog has submitted what appears to be the actual legal agreement signed by the 300+ TM Teachers as part of the first recertification course. This is IMO relevant to the latest DLF efforts because it can be assumed that 1) only official recertified TM Teachers will be allowed to teach TM to students as a part of the DLF prog- ram, and 2) what they *agreed to* to *become* recertified teachers might just be relevant to what it is that they will actually teach or promote *in addition to* TM. Please bear in mind when reading the following agreement that the marketing plan of the TMO when it was signed was to sell TM in shopping malls. Each of the recertified teachers sign- ing this agreement then, and presumably signing similar agreements in the time since, were agree- ing to work full-time for the TM movement, in exchange for $4000 a month for life. (This was seemingly revised after the fact to become not a fixed salary but a percentage of the income generated by their efforts.) Thus *some* of the particulars in the agreement below are no longer in effect, the ones dealing with setting up enlightenment franchises in shopping malls. HOWEVER, what I would like to see the TM supporters on this forum explain is the agreement to offer the 55 Peace Palace services and types of products. Having signed a legal agreement to do so, WHY in your opinion should we expect these recertified TM Teachers to limit themselves to teaching ONLY TM to the students involved in the DLF program? Having signed this agreement or one similar to it, are they not legally and morally bound to sell *other* TM products and programs as well? Will they attempt to segregate the Quiet Time classes by gender, as they have agreed to do below, to maintain the two channels of activities-for men and ladies? Will they pressure the students (as they agreed to do) to invest
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools
You're right Richard. I am sorry to Bevan for disrespectibg him. - Original Message - From: Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools Kirk wrote: He screams flamer, the wife and I agree. So, you and your wife are homophobes - I'm surprised. There must be thousands of gay people in NOLA and they all like to eat in restaurants. Why are so many TMers anti-gay, Kirk? Why are you so scared? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star
It's all bullshit and no different than the failed attempts by Blavatsky to manufacture a Maitrya out of Krishnamurthi. That people even fall for Creme who is at best a lackluster pretender and who has reified Theosphical wishful thinking beyond its necessary usefulness is portentious itself, but in another sort of way. People say, Creme gets nothing from his conjurations of spiritual hobgoblins, but you have to look at the milieu of his nonsense and where he comes from. Nab just likes him cause he's Scottish. Many people lust for power more than riches. Creme became an icon amongst the fairy lands of London. That's pay off enough. You know it used to make me angry that people would easily fall for a pretender who told them what they want to hear as opposed to a truely legit being who demanded work and sacrifice, and actually it still does. But I'm no longer schocked or surprised. Just disappointed. I mean, the very teachings that the Theosophists yearned for are now readily available but people like the highly hypothesized theosophical and intellectual style of nonsense better than the real traditions which Theosophists worshipped. It's like some people are in Paris and can eat real French food but they still choose to eat at Burger King. At any rate there's simply no accounting for taste. Blavatsky's Mahatmas are the Three Kongtruls. There is no Maitreya, and bunch of Jesuses and so on here on Earth. The reason why there are not is because if there were it wouldn't make any difference, because any real transformation happens within our own mind and heart. All Sai Babas and their avataric kin do is take the will away from the individual and lead them astray. No good comes from them, no good comes from St. germain, no good comes from the gun hoarding Elizabeth St. Clair Prophet, and no good comes from Creme. Look at Nabby if you want proof. Case adjurned. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Hey Nabs, On a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that all these predictions are going to come true? 10. Well, if you're 100% certain, there's no point in asking what you'll say or do if they don't come true. So please just keep us posted. Let us know if and when something actually happens, and if it doesn't happen on schedule, let us know the reason for the delay.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ALEX ALERT (Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries)
Yeah Baba o Nablus au Pakistan, Rick humours you because he sees what a foul critter you are, and frankly, I believe that as a service to humankind he allows you to emote here rather than at a post office with a gun. I have to praise his fortitude, taking one for the team. Rick, I raise a glass to you. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] ALEX ALERT (Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries) From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] ALEX ALERT (Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries) Perhaps I chose harsh words towards Rick, but with his pathetic accusations They're pathetic to you because they don't jibe with your worldview, and you seem to build that on unproveable hopes and dreams, so it's easily threatened by contradictory evidence. I don't suggest that you accept every rumor that comes along, but you might find it liberating to shift your source of security from faith and idealistic thinking to an openness to what is. Your preachy, condescending, holier-than-thou attitude, which is blatantly obvious to everyone here, is just like that of the fundamentalist Christians, and for the same essential reason: ego aggrandizement. and even more pathetic rescent post It wasn't me, it was someone else ! Nabby, I'm limited to 2nd hand accounts because: 1. I personally have never had sex with MMY, although I've talked with a couple of very credible women who say they have. 2. I was never one of MMY's personal secretaries, although I know many of them, and about half of them, during their tenure, became aware of these goings on. I find every word in my post to be justified. Then by golly it must be.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ALEX ALERT (Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries)
Listen dipshit, there's nothing different in what Rick did then in what your Creme inadvertantly did by misappropriating the Theosophists teachings after they had died and no longer could object. You uphold and flag wave watered down and corrupted Tibetan Buddhist teachings without knowing anything! You blind oaf. - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] ALEX ALERT (Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: There are already such forums. Very much inspired by your ideas of denouncing former teachers, no doubt. And who started this trend ? Mr. Rick Archer ! Are you crediting me with having conceived of the idea of freedom of speech? No. I find nothing whatsover to credit you for. You are a deranged fool and a simpleton who will bitterly regret the trend of teacher-bashing you sat in motion on the internet. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] WOW!
WOW The clouds are passing. Eternal, you were right.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries
Yeah, I know really! Look at the source. Hahahahahahahhaha - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paedophile sex in the Buddhist monasteries --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: For our dedicated Buddhists; Vaj and Barry the Turqey: Inside temples, stories abound of paedophile sex. Not only novices but temple boys are vulnerable to this abuse. If the abbots are not the abusers themselves, they often involved other senior monks. Read more: http://tinyurl.com/bycgyb Nabby, you can't get a rise from me by dumping on Buddhism, any more than Jim could when he was trotting out Chinese propaganda about Tibet. Did you not READ my take on the other side of the guru-bhakti tradition and what may really be going on under the covers? I have no illusions to protect about monastery life, much less Buddhist monastery life. It's all artificial, and that artificiality produces odd behavior. So do Catholic monasteries. So does Purusha or the behind-barbed-wire pundit compounds, and so does prison. Lock a bunch of men up in a big building, and tea-time happens. :-) That said, does anyone get the feeling that Nabby's *real* issue might be that he was never pure enough to become a skin boy for Maharishi and get some of that good prasad tea for himself? That would explain a lot. :-) Maybe Maitreya, when he arrives, will deem Nabby cool enough to carry his sac (uh...I mean bags) for him at the airport. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby
Nah, Nablus is setting himself up to never have to face the actual truth of things in his life 'as is' by casting a strange reality which nobody on Earth but other eclectic people have in their grasp. he has cast himself as an elite knower of truth to mask that he actually knows little about any truth. He is a weakling, not a person strong in bhakti. That's all bullshit Turq. And you really know it. The proof is in his over the top reactive nature and instant spittle flying demeanor. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby It occurs to me, uncharacteristically, that many of us here have reacted to Nabby's enthusiasm about the any-day-now coming of Maitreya less than graciously. We have kidded him and poked fun at him for his beliefs and the fervor with which he pursued them. In this post I hope to present another view of that fervor, one that I hope will help us to treat him more appropriately in the future when the subject comes up. Nabby, in my opinion, is strongly faith- or bhakti- oriented. When it comes to Maitreya, he is a supplicant, on his knees before his Master, ready to serve him in any way possible. Nabby ceaselessly strokes Maitreya in his posts, filling his own mouth with whatever is necessary to serve Maitreya faithfully. And he gets flack for this. More than once he has taken one (and sometimes two) on the chin for Maitreya. And he never complains about this; he just sucks it up and continues doing whatever Maitreya demands of him. If he is correct, and keeps pounding away at this holy task, sure enough someday Maitreya really will come. Both Nabby and we will look up and see the expression of serenity and ecstasy on Maitreya's face as he finds his release into the world after so long. We'll prob- ably see a similar look of ecstasy on Nabby's face. And when that happens those of us who have laughed at Nabby in the past will be proven wrong, and will have to say to him, Nabby, you said a real mouthful. At that point Nabby will probably reply, Mmmmph mmmpph, which is Creme-ese, for My pleasure. I was just trying to fill the emptiness in your lives the same way Maitreya has filled the emptiness in mine. So cut Nabby a break. He's just sucking it up for the team, being a real bhakti, and treating his Master the way a Master should be treated. Just hope for Nabby's sake that when Maitreya finally comes he'll settle for that, and not ask for a Second Coming. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby
Oh, naw, I guess I wasn't paying attention. Sometimes I just gloss over stuff. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby Hee hee, Kirk, babes, did you completely miss that Turq was using every double entendre he could to show that Nab was a spiritual cocksucker? If you did miss all those puns, man, you are a much purer mind than I thought. But, yeah, you're right about Nab -- his emotionality is the tell that he is not confident about his beliefs. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Nah, Nablus is setting himself up to never have to face the actual truth of things in his life 'as is' by casting a strange reality which nobody on Earth but other eclectic people have in their grasp. he has cast himself as an elite knower of truth to mask that he actually knows little about any truth. He is a weakling, not a person strong in bhakti. That's all bullshit Turq. And you really know it. The proof is in his over the top reactive nature and instant spittle flying demeanor. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby It occurs to me, uncharacteristically, that many of us here have reacted to Nabby's enthusiasm about the any-day-now coming of Maitreya less than graciously. We have kidded him and poked fun at him for his beliefs and the fervor with which he pursued them. In this post I hope to present another view of that fervor, one that I hope will help us to treat him more appropriately in the future when the subject comes up. Nabby, in my opinion, is strongly faith- or bhakti- oriented. When it comes to Maitreya, he is a supplicant, on his knees before his Master, ready to serve him in any way possible. Nabby ceaselessly strokes Maitreya in his posts, filling his own mouth with whatever is necessary to serve Maitreya faithfully. And he gets flack for this. More than once he has taken one (and sometimes two) on the chin for Maitreya. And he never complains about this; he just sucks it up and continues doing whatever Maitreya demands of him. If he is correct, and keeps pounding away at this holy task, sure enough someday Maitreya really will come. Both Nabby and we will look up and see the expression of serenity and ecstasy on Maitreya's face as he finds his release into the world after so long. We'll prob- ably see a similar look of ecstasy on Nabby's face. And when that happens those of us who have laughed at Nabby in the past will be proven wrong, and will have to say to him, Nabby, you said a real mouthful. At that point Nabby will probably reply, Mmmmph mmmpph, which is Creme-ese, for My pleasure. I was just trying to fill the emptiness in your lives the same way Maitreya has filled the emptiness in mine. So cut Nabby a break. He's just sucking it up for the team, being a real bhakti, and treating his Master the way a Master should be treated. Just hope for Nabby's sake that when Maitreya finally comes he'll settle for that, and not ask for a Second Coming. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby
Okay, haha, it is funny. - Original Message - From: shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Call For Compassion And Understanding Towards Nabby --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: It occurs to me, uncharacteristically, that many of us here have reacted to Nabby's enthusiasm about the any-day-now coming of Maitreya less than graciously. We have kidded him and poked fun at him for his beliefs and the fervor with which he pursued them. In this post I hope to present another view of that fervor, one that I hope will help us to treat him more appropriately in the future when the subject comes up. Nabby, in my opinion, is strongly faith- or bhakti- oriented. When it comes to Maitreya, he is a supplicant, on his knees before his Master, ready to serve him in any way possible. Nabby ceaselessly strokes Maitreya in his posts, filling his own mouth with whatever is necessary to serve Maitreya faithfully. And he gets flack for this. More than once he has taken one (and sometimes two) on the chin for Maitreya. And he never complains about this; he just sucks it up and continues doing whatever Maitreya demands of him. If he is correct, and keeps pounding away at this holy task, sure enough someday Maitreya really will come. Both Nabby and we will look up and see the expression of serenity and ecstasy on Maitreya's face as he finds his release into the world after so long. We'll prob- ably see a similar look of ecstasy on Nabby's face. And when that happens those of us who have laughed at Nabby in the past will be proven wrong, and will have to say to him, Nabby, you said a real mouthful. At that point Nabby will probably reply, Mmmmph mmmpph, which is Creme-ese, for My pleasure. I was just trying to fill the emptiness in your lives the same way Maitreya has filled the emptiness in mine. So cut Nabby a break. He's just sucking it up for the team, being a real bhakti, and treating his Master the way a Master should be treated. Just hope for Nabby's sake that when Maitreya finally comes he'll settle for that, and not ask for a Second Coming. Two observations: 1) blind faith and bhakti are two very different things; 2) Nabby catches flack here because he is the TMO equivalent of a fire-and-brimstone evangelical Christian. Maitreya or no Maitreya, this guy rubs me the wrong way. I suspect many others feel the same way so will jump on any opportunity to dump on him. If we're waiting for some miracle to happen and putting all our energy and hopes into it, there's a better alternative -- and a much greater potential payout -- than hoping for the second coming of Maitreya (who I have no idea who he is). And that's levitating. If we're going to waste our time and energy on pie-in-the-sky impossibilities, levitation has more oomph for our dollar than Maitreya. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] WOW!
Um, hm, I just reconnected with many of my best friends in the world through facebook. That has been such a breath of fresh air. I have a new job I'm starting soon with a groovy chef, and another job prospect doing some stand-in stuff in the movies, so all of a sudden some good things are happening. It's true a person often is their own worst enemy. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] WOW! On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: WOW The clouds are passing. Eternal, you were right. Kirk, the clouds will pass month after month. Each month for at least a year you will notice that life is getting better and your mind is getting cleared. That's why I strongly urge you to stay on the med for 12 months minimum, 6 months to maintain you and another 6 months to titrate it out of your system. And those are minimum numbers. Neurotransmitter balancing takes a long time. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] WOW!
Thank you Eternal. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] WOW! On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: Um, hm, I just reconnected with many of my best friends in the world through facebook. That has been such a breath of fresh air. I have a new job I'm starting soon with a groovy chef, and another job prospect doing some stand-in stuff in the movies, so all of a sudden some good things are happening. It's true a person often is their own worst enemy. Kirk, in the obverse, the world is as we are. Opportunities aren't things that fall into people's laps. Opportunities are ever around us. Ever watch an operator in high school or college, who could walk up to a babe and have her eating out of his hands with just a few words while other guys would just get turned down? Maybe not, since you appear to have been the big time operator. Let's try a different analogy. What about the person who is ever seeing money making opportunities all around them. We wonder how they can create massive fortunes while we're just looking for our next job as a wage slave. There might just be the Support of Nature that Maharishi talked about. By adjusting our outlook and behavior slightly, things just seemed to fall into our lap. I'm happy for you and hope you prosper. That way you'll be able to pay the invoice I'll be sending you. ;-) You've lived a life of shit for just too long. Be good to yourself and your wife and stay on the meds. The best is yet to come. A year to get your neurotransmitters fully adjusted, 6 months to assure that they stay that way, another 6 months to slow go off the meds. These are minimum. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] The gift of Maharishi to His friends
Now if only you could get your personal life together - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The gift of Maharishi to His friends During Guru Purnimah we were asked to write down our wishes for the future and put it in a box for Guru Dev and for Him to read. One fellow wrote in his plea to Guru Dev: I wish Germany to be united. Maharishi commented; It is going to happen. Scarce are the fortunate souls that believed a word of what Maharishi uttered at the time. This was in 1982, and we now know what happened. Jai Guru Dev To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WOW!
Thanks, but the stand in thing might conflict with my new cooking gig. I saw Josh Brolin Jr a second ago. It was funny cause I did a show with him exactly half my life ago too. So it was deja vu all over again. But Megan Fox is in this flick so I want to do it just to eat out of her hand for a moment. Uh, thanks again. - Original Message - From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WOW! here's hoping you get both jobs, Kirk- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Um, hm, I just reconnected with many of my best friends in the world through facebook. That has been such a breath of fresh air. I have a new job I'm starting soon with a groovy chef, and another job prospect doing some stand-in stuff in the movies, so all of a sudden some good things are happening. It's true a person often is their own worst enemy. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] WOW! On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:  WOW The clouds are passing. Eternal, you were right. Kirk, the clouds will pass month after month. Each month for at least a year you will notice that life is getting better and your mind is getting cleared. That's why I strongly urge you to stay on the med for 12 months minimum, 6 months to maintain you and another 6 months to titrate it out of your system. And those are minimum numbers. Neurotransmitter balancing takes a long time. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
- Original Message - From: Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Ah, my experience is that yagyas have an effect. But then I do have them done and I don't just spout off about them without ever having had one. Some people get on a flippant roll and think they actually are saying something. Let's do a double-blind test just to see if what you experience is anything other than what you might expect to experience having coughed up all those sponduliks. I am happy to make a prediction: Nothing will happen. This sin't flippant it's just that I know a lot of people who have also had yagyas and I detect a certain desperation in their attempts to justify the fact they didn't get what they paid for. For instance, I knew a girl who had five health yagyas, at several thousand dollars, a pop to cure her of migraine. It didn't work, but she was convinced it was working at a level she wasn't aware of (?) This is the research that David Orme Johnson should be doing. -So, I don't expect them to do anything. I consider them an adjunct to my own practice whereby I am somehow amped up and feel more clear. Also, I don't shell out much as my yagya group allows me to pay what I wish. I don't even necessarily believe in Gods at all. But I do believe in the power of human attention, and paying others to place their attention on ones higher nature has an impact. Fact is, I feel them and it's not based in autosuggection to me. But I cannot make anyone else believe that. Nor do I care to. Yagyas fit into my way of thinking, even as a Buddhist. As for Maharishi yagyas I have never heard anything good about them. But I have had some wild experiences with them when I had alot of them going at once. In fact it was too much for me and I became insomniac for 6 months. Now I just have one group doing one yagya a day for me, in part of a group yagya. It costs me about a dollar a day. So do contact lenses. I pay five bucks a day for a pack of smokes, so I'm not worried about the money.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Conspiracy Theories
Yet Nab has been outdone by Lon, who was crazy beyond Nabbiness. By contrast Nab is a mere sloppy copy. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Conspiracy Theories Curtis, That's one fine set of responses. So, get ready Ready? Ready? THANK GOD FOR NAB! If not for Nab, how many fewer great smack-backs would we have had posted here? Think about it. If someone came here with a new user name and tried to be another Nab, why the inauthenticity of the attempt is assured. Only a Nab could be a Nab, and there ain't no other Nabs here but Nab. Shemp, Off -- eat your hearts out. Nab is the king of nabbiness. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: snip Do you want me to take you seriously; I don't know what that might mean in your fantasy world. do you want to know where Lincoln is living today ? He is dead. He isn't living anywhere now. I will not tell hillbillies Ouch! Come one now, poodles are sooo cute and hillbillies aren't ( at least the GUY hillbillies.) Now the chicks at Petticoat Junction and Elly-May Clampett were lookers. like you what neighbourhood Lincoln is living in DC today. Let me guess, someone with an British accent TOLD you this. You could easily become a security-problem. I would ask him to cough up a buck like anyone else walking by me while busking but otherwise I never associate with zombies back from the dead. (After one drink the brain eating always starts.) In fact from all your unstable comments on FFL you are a walking security-relability. Well at least I'm not claiming I know where dead people live after their Thriller video rise from the dead. Many hillbillies are, due to extensive inbreeding. You will kindly leave my parents out of this conversation. You couldn't be more wrong about them. Regarding Maitreya; it's far beyond you ability to comprehend, unfortunately. Well you got that right. Like IF God was coming back to straighten out the mess he created here, why would he let YOU in on it? I find that more incomprehensible than the whole Maitreya nonsense itself. So we can safely leave that issue out as well. And deprive me of your enlightenment? I'm guessing that the first thing God is gunna do when he gets here is round up nasty pieces of work like you. Remember how UN-elitist Jesus was? He was all for the commoner, not people like you. I'm thinking that after a couple of bourbons Maitreya and I will be big buddies and the first bug I'm putting in his ear is to send you and your kind to Calcutta for a lesson in the rest of humanity beneath your upturned nose. But I do wish you well. Obviously. The sincere love came right through the layers of malicious putdowns. Right through. Not gunna help you one bit when I get Maitreya on my side though. Once we start high fiving like old fraternity buddies I'm gunna get him to open a can of old Yaweh cosmic wup ass on you. Those cans must be getting mighty ripe by now. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] E-dawn -- you've got beerability (Re: If you had to be)
Frankly I have experienced as of yet no original or valuable group contribution from Dawn so I fail to see why anyone should care whether Dawn is Jim or not. At least Jim was controversial, whereas Dawn is merely a pundit for Maharishi. And patently uninspired. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] E-dawn -- you've got beerability (Re: If you had to be) E-dawn, Here's a simple solution: contact Rick -- who has integrity up the yinyang -- and reveal your true identity to him. Then Rick can report one simple fact: that you're not Jim, and then Barry will be a fool if he asserts it again. Or,not. I'm okay with not knowing your true status, and I'm okay with you tossing your past aside -- as if it never happened, cuz unlike Barry, I think it's an okay strategy to move to a deeper intimacy here. Those who would hold your feet to the fire of your past are not cutting you a break that virtually all of us have taken as a birthright. Who hasn't fudged a resume? Who doesn't have a bigass list of personal things they'd never reveal here with the trolls sniping at anything? Who hasn't spruced up for a first-date and never mentioned the small errors of one's past? We all mold our image -- why? -- well, herein, I'm willing to say that it's to set folks at ease such that we can discuss other issues without previous discussions impacting the NOW. As I've posted here, I've come to know each mind such that I see their rock beneath the bulge in the river's surface. There's a steady flowing of ideation over the beneath-the-surface core person that I feel when a post arrives. The concepts flow, but the person holds steady. And, this has changed me. Now that I know everyone at the party, I can spot where I can get a good conversation going. If I held the past against those who have pissed me off, I'd only be talking to myself...hell, not even me, cuz I piss me off every day. I was so fucking wrong about soo many here for the first year I was here. Miss not that though recently I called Turq an odious clod, I'd drive quite a few miles to have a beer with him. This wouldn't be possible if I decided to always have our past on the table between us. Yeah, there's those I've vowed to not interact with; the War Monger wrote about my sexuality the other day, and for me to respond to it as if I HAD TO PROTECT MY IMAGE HERE, would be ludicrous, because, since I know the minds here, I'm projecting that those minds know me well enough also such that the validity of anything said about me will be immediately known for the most part. So, if you are Jim, it's okay to not be Jim. Who here wants to be what they were even five years ago? Your posting here has necessarily evolved you as I have been, and I trust that that process will serve all of us as time passes. Not that that process is absolute. The ego of each of us has scraped a deep furrow as our line in the sand before us, and filling it back up is a gritty humble pie upon which to dine. How long this process will take to get, say, Nab to let his hair down and laugh about all of it in a pub with, say, Curtis, may be years more of posting, but, hey, maybe at any second Nab'll toggle-snap out of his obsessive sand-line drawing, but, either way, I'm willing to wait. Curtis, I'm certain, would have a beer with Nab right now.Nab?...you? Maybe a soft drink instead would make the meeting more acceptable? As for Barry or Judy dumping their past, hey, I'm not a betting person, but I'd put bucks down that Nab'll change before they'll drop their jousting. If either of them toggled, what a fish out of water the other would be to keep trying to swim in a river that's suddenly dried up. If Judy simply stopped from her side, she'd rocket upwards in everyone's appraisal of her, right? It would be, like, the biggest thing that ever happened here, right? The power to amaze and model for us is in their hands, we'd all be deeply bowing to whomever found the ego strength to stop the war, yet there that siddhi sits -- like a million bucks being ignored on a table around which folks are complaining about poverty. Nab, Barry, Judy, Shemp, Off -- keep posting. What does FFL look like ten years from now when all of us are seeing the scythe wielder's approach? Let's change the name: from now on this is FairFieldLifeboat. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: correct L.Shaddai-- definitely a group of little boys and girls with Barry as the ringleader, playing out their school yard routine, over and over again, including Vaj. ... isn't there something just plain wrong with that
Re: [FairfieldLife] What do these two people have in common?
Gotcha, it takes a deviant mind to make that connection. - Original Message - From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What do these two people have in common? Person #1: http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/74963/original.jpg Person #2: http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/04/169_bandaid.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism on the rise
It's not Buddhism. What Nabby and other here are all raising hell about, whether it be regarding duplicities of Buddhist leaders or Hindus are the tendencies of PEOPLE to mythologise the orient so as to disallow it to have any faults. What few are willing to admit is that all philosophies are created by HUMANS, and therefore subject to the usual complaints of humanity. I thank Nabby for presenting us the opportunity to think on this Orientocentricism, (or orientation?) as something inherently more noble than other modes of thinking such as typical Western ethics. No system of though precludes a person from abusing the trust of others, especially insofar as it wields near absolute power. I admit personally to enjoying the diversity of all peoples as providing a system of checks and balances through different philosophies because we all see the obvious truth that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thanks Nowblowus for these articles. Keep em coming. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism on the rise On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:16 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: According to recent reports, members of Pulguksa Temple in North Kyongsang Province, one of the nation?s oldest temples, were found last week to have run an illegal golf practice range within its compound for three years. I knew it was only a matter of time till the evils of golf hit the Buddhist world. What's next, bowling and Bingo?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhism on the rise
This is effectively what Maharishi has done with so many. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhism on the rise From Rick's humor list: if you want to fix an Oriental, spin them around and around until they're disoriented. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: It's not Buddhism. What Nabby and other here are all raising hell about, whether it be regarding duplicities of Buddhist leaders or Hindus are the tendencies of PEOPLE to mythologise the orient so as to disallow it to have any faults. What few are willing to admit is that all philosophies are created by HUMANS, and therefore subject to the usual complaints of humanity. I thank Nabby for presenting us the opportunity to think on this Orientocentricism, (or orientation?) as something inherently more noble than other modes of thinking such as typical Western ethics. No system of though precludes a person from abusing the trust of others, especially insofar as it wields near absolute power. I admit personally to enjoying the diversity of all peoples as providing a system of checks and balances through different philosophies because we all see the obvious truth that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thanks Nowblowus for these articles. Keep em coming. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhism on the rise On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:16 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: According to recent reports, members of Pulguksa Temple in North Kyongsang Province, one of the nation?s oldest temples, were found last week to have run an illegal golf practice range within its compound for three years. I knew it was only a matter of time till the evils of golf hit the Buddhist world. What's next, bowling and Bingo? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhism on the rise
Vaj, don't stoop to Dawn's level (as if you had the flexibility to bend that low.) - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhism on the rise On Apr 16, 2009, at 8:34 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oops, sorry Vaj, i forgot to take into account your deficient reading skills-- all of that mindfulness apparently doesn't translate into accurate appraisal of written materials. the article is clearly a reprint from a UN recognized NGO based in France, with branches in the Netherlands, Switzerland, the UK, Australia and yes, Canada (TAMIL CENTRE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS - TCHR/CTDHCENTRE TAMOUL POUR LES DROITS DE L'HOMME (Established in 1990)(UN accredited NGO to the World Summit on Information Society). http://www.tchr.net/aboutus_branches_detail.htm probably feeling a little less smug, eh? They don't just exploit Canadians dim wit. The TCHR is a cover for Tamil Tigers. The post was on a Canadian website associated with Tamils abroad. Nice to see your real colors though: a Tamil Tiger supporter. Not that surprising.
[FairfieldLife] Zealots
On Transference and Transformation, by Polly Young-Eisendrath A collective experience that the teacher's authority is sacrosanct--never to be questioned on even practical issues, much less spiritual ones--will exagerate and reinforce negative iconic-projective transferences in students. Often the hateful and agressive feelings about the teacher's imagined weaknesses will be split off and felt toward those who do not practice or have different beliefs such as a spouse or work associate. An overly zealous attitude in a student should be a warning that negative strivings, connected to the idealization of a teacher, are unconsciously overwhelming and so have to be kept under strict control.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Viewing the world through desperate-colored glasses
you are someone who delights in pushing others' buttons and finding fault with their beliefs. so be it. but don't try to hide this as your opinion, when in fact it is your agenda. -Barry is very intelligent and a great writer. I think he is pushing buttons to engage others not for any other reason than for entertainment. It's pretty clear to me that Barry is more at home in the gray areas of paradox and the uncertain than most others. Thus he likes to pome fun at people's certainty about unknowable subjects. People's buttons get pushed. He has never pushed mine, so I am guessing that some people have bigger buttons than others. At any rate I believe that Barry finds any certainty in the mystical arena to be fodder for fools and subject for exploitation. I am quite certain that Barry finds it a form of entertainment. Or else he couldn't have possibly interacted with Judy and the other AMT OG's for as long as he has. Also it's quite obvious that TM and its cult environs have made a big impression upon him, or else he would have long ago moved on. Like many, if not most TMers nowadays the shambles of the TM Movement were for them like a death resulting in the usual steps of acceptance starting with shock, then anger, and so on. we are most still caught up in that cycle somewhere, and few of us have adapted to the new and 'improved' TM Org. Starting with the price increase of a few years back. We are all exploring within ourselves whether we can support the Movement as it now stands with the emphasis on materialism and beurocratic rank and file. The TMO is a Pandora's Box and it stands to reason that we are the forerunners of the old movement insofar as we at FFLife are the morphagenic meme explorers, each trying to cogitate through the extremely radical and controversial views of the Movement. So much of the Movement is merely supposition without any real solid basis in anyones experience. I have been reading Psychoanalysis and Buddhism (Jeremy Saffran, 2003). In this book one of the authors discusses the differences of Zen systems, explaining two entirely discrete methodologies. One of them the author describes as 'top down' and the other as 'bottom up.' The top down system uses certain phrases, such as 'Mu' which means 'not' to arrive at the experience of oneness. The bottom up system uses sitting meditation. The former system can lead to experiences of onesess which can have a narcissism furthering tendency because one takes those experiences and feels condisention to others. While the bottom up system takes one through a very hard system of rigorous sitting contemplation which is very painful, but which allows one to sit with their pain and thus start to feel a closeness to others through shared pain. What I am arriving at, through this analogical view of Zen is that TM because it gives one mystical and profound experiences tends to make one feel superior to others. And this is clearly shown in the way Movement frontrunners show little compassion towards other people in general. It is my thought that Barry constantly tries to open people's minds and hearts by elasticising them, which itself is bound to stir up trouble especially in those who hold onto a discursive and epistimological ethos separate from hard reality. Hard reality is that we're all in the same boat and that this reality we face now is pretty much the only reality we can know. Heaven on Earth, life after death, Gods and so on are really not subjects which can be answered, or if they can be, they are not answered in any systematic procedure for all people. This stream of thought alone tends to run counterindicatory to the whole basic premis of TM which is that anyone who can think a thought can reach unity consciousness through TM alone. The history of the Movement proves otherwise, and that fact blows down the whole house of cards which Maharishi built. In fact, nothing Maharishi taught is entirely the whole truth. Much of what he accomplished he did so by playing on people's fears and former religious teachings. The concept of heaven walking on earth is a Christian fundamental and Zionistic notion and is found nowhere in the Vedas except insofar as it pertains historically or mysthologically. Nowhere in the Vedas does it say we can open a door onto sat Yuga. My point is that anything less than full disclosure in a religious system is suspect, and so fair game to anyone who wishes to look into it. Certainly one need not disrespect Maharishi to make such points, so maybe Barry crosses the line of good taste, and yet, as I noted heretofor, we are all ion a state of shock, anger, or suspended belief, at the death of Maharishi but moreso at the death of the TM Movement which we helped create through our blood sweat and tears, and calloused asses. I don't blame Barry for his speaking volumns of irony. I don't see why anyone does get shaken up by it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
I am sorry but this whole Maharishi gayness thread is wa off track as pertains to any sort of import. My original question, I thought, was much more ineresting and would provide much more insight into mechanics of consciousness than this flubber. My question was, does the ethos of the individual pundit effect the outcome of a yagya? What do you all think? Or is everyone so caught up in their maras that they can't think coherently any longer? My guess is yes. Anyway, neverthefuckmind. it's all theory, and therefore as specious as the present argument. I'll come back tomorrow when people wake up - hopefully. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits curtisdeltablues wrote: So you are still missing the point? It is the hypocrisy of his position on gayness that I am criticizing. Not that he might be gay. You remind me of my cats Judy. When I point my finger at a treat, they look at my finger. Curtis, Now that was funny. Judy in a nutshellemphasis on the word shell. I'm continually amazed that you debate her when you know it will come to naught in terms of helping her evolve her POV. I'm guessing that you do it as an intellectual exercise for your own benefit -- practice makes clarity. Edg To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
BuhBye! - Original Message - From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits (Although the Post Count will register this as my 51st post for the week, in fact I had a duplicate post on Monday (215357 and 215358), so this is really my 50th.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: The homophobic views were bad enough. What I'm objecting to is your *adding* the hypocrisy charge when there's zero evidence for it. Obviously I don't share that opinion. I don't share your tolerance for his intolerance either. Understanding a person's culture doesn't get him off the hook for being a dick. And I notice you are not extending me the same courtesy for my opinion being influenced by my culture and upbringing, are you? So your understanding only extends to defending him doesn't it? Huh?? Your last sentence makes no sense to me. That's petty and meanspirited and entirely gratuitous. For calling the guy a hypocrite? You have your meanspirited meter set too low. We disagree. You might want to raise it to say, people who present themselves as enlightened beings who teach their followers that gay people are destroying their personal evolution. If you knew anything about the gay purging that went on at MIU you would understand the meaning of the word meanspirited. So because very meanspirited things happened at MIU many years ago, that makes it OK for you to be somewhat meanspirited here? snip That's a pretty standard form of sadhana in India. It's called Guru-Bhakti Yoga. In that context, it's not at all out-of-the-box. And neither you nor I know anything about what is involved in that relationship do we? Like the relationship of a Catholic priest and his favorite alter boy perhaps? Neither of us know. Is that what you're calling out-of-the-box male bonding? Do you agree with Barry that the *entire tradition* has always been a cover for homosexuality? Just one point on the *rationality* of your speculation: Ashrams are pressure cookers, and it's not easy to keep secrets. The other disciples of Guru Dev were reportedly pissed off at MMY in the first place because he'd maneuvered himself into the position of Guru Dev's secretary, to the point that rumors were started after Guru Dev's death that MMY had murdered him. Do you really think that if there'd been any suspicion that MMY lusted after Guru Dev, not a whiff of it would have been noted anywhere on the record? What started out as an experiment in speculation like the entire media does with the personal life of public figures has turned into an interesting experiment in how long term meditators deal with cognitive dissonance. The cognitive dissonance mantra is intellectually dishonest. It's just a cheap way to dismiss and demean any objection to TM critics' ideas, no matter how absurd those ideas may be. If I suggested that you were a child abuser, would it be cognitive dissonance for you to object? But as usual you made many good points among the attempts to turn anything I say against the perfect image of Maharishi against me personally. Right, like my acknowledgments that he was a flawed human being, had a highly objectionable view of homosexuality, and had committed lots of other hypocrisies. Yup, I'm sure defending a perfect image of MMY, all right. So a dude who grew up in India and went from college straight into an ashram who isn't understanding to your modern Western standards is hypocritical? The guy was a world traveler who had plenty of time to learn that he was wrong. He had more exposure to people and ideas than I will ever have in m life. People, yes. Ideas, especially about homosexuality, I seriously doubt. And the ideas about homosexuality back then were generally significantly less liberal than those you've been exposed to. More likely he'd have been exposed to *confirmation* of his ideas. But he didn't learn and never amended his prejudice. Mr. Enlightened. But I'm the bad guy for pointing this out. You're a lot harder on him than is reasonable or fair, yes. And sometimes you have to stand on your head to justify adding yet another sin to the list. BTW, the notion that higher consciousness fosters perfect behavior according to human standards is a pernicious one, IMHO (and if there are nonhuman standards, we don't know what they are). Either MMY believed higher consciousness *did* foster perfect behavior and was wrong, or he knew it wasn't but figured the idea that it was would nudge meditators to improve their behavior in line with *his* standards. But if that was his motivation, it backfired on him, because *he* couldn't maintain those standards. I don't think higher consciousness has
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
Ah, my experience is that yagyas have an effect. But then I do have them done and I don't just spout off about them without ever having had one. Some people get on a flippant roll and think they actually are saying something. - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: I am sorry but this whole Maharishi gayness thread is wa off track as pertains to any sort of import. My original question, I thought, was much more ineresting and would provide much more insight into mechanics of consciousness than this flubber. You talking about my stomach or my argument? I want you to know that I have a perfectly good set of six pack abs under there which I am protecting with that layer contributed mostly by members of the porcine product line. When I grow it thick enough I'm gunna cure it into bacon. My question was, does the ethos of the individual pundit effect the outcome of a yagya? No. The outcome is equally nil except as a believe enhancing ritual for the participants and whoever was unlucky enough to give their money to have it done. What do you all think? Or is everyone so caught up in their maras First of all it was Mara who ordered all those disgusting lemon drop shots and it was Mara who conveniently spilled one on her tank top turning her headlights on and which lead me to invite her back to my place where she ate everything in my fridge and then puked into the cat litter box putting an end to any designs I had on her at the beginning of the evening. that they can't think coherently any longer? My guess is yes. Well you got that right. Functioning while not being able to think coherently is a bit of a hobby for me. My favorite is attempting to perform music that way. Anyway, neverthefuckmind. it's all theory, and therefore as specious as the present argument. I'll come back tomorrow when people wake up - hopefully. And after I get all that Mara puke out of my cat box, hopefully. - Original Message - From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits curtisdeltablues wrote: So you are still missing the point? It is the hypocrisy of his position on gayness that I am criticizing. Not that he might be gay. You remind me of my cats Judy. When I point my finger at a treat, they look at my finger. Curtis, Now that was funny. Judy in a nutshellemphasis on the word shell. I'm continually amazed that you debate her when you know it will come to naught in terms of helping her evolve her POV. I'm guessing that you do it as an intellectual exercise for your own benefit -- practice makes clarity. Edg To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
William, there's other people lurking out there who are rarely inspired to post due to obvious lack of content. It's to them I asked the question, or even to you, if you have a definite, or indefinite opinion. Somebody out of the 2000 members here might be intrigued to consider the topic. But I catch your drift. More ego here, more often, less valuable conversation. - Original Message - From: Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits Kirk wrote: What do you all think? Or is everyone so caught up in their maras... Curtis wrote: First of all it was Mara who ordered all those disgusting lemon drop shots and it was Mara who conveniently spilled one on her tank top turning her headlights on and which lead me to invite her back to my place where she ate everything in my fridge and then puked into the cat litter box putting an end to any designs I had on her at the beginning of the evening. Yep, it always seems to come back to sex with guys like Curtis - almost any message is an excuse for posting some tid-bit about their sexual repression, or libertinism. The answer to Kirk is yes, they are so caught up in their 'maras' that they think 'maras' is 'Mara' -they don't even have a clue what you're talking about Kirk - not a clue. It's all just an excuse to spout off and pass the time of day. I mean, their hero is Vaj and Uncle Tantra and they can't stand Judy. Give it up Kirk - you should know better by now - you've been posting for what, ten years now? Do you seriously think you are going to find out anything of substance from a 'Delta Blues' guy, a 'Vaj Nath' or an 'Uncle Tantra'? You'd probably find out more about life by visiting a bowling alley on Skid Row. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you had to be a true believer, which one would you be?
In lieu of this fascinating discussion, you got me. Actually it seems I'm part of this dog and pony show wether I mean to be or not. You guys are getting to be a bit smug. (as if) I prefer people of actual integrity. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you had to be a true believer, which one would you be? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: That has nothing to do with you being Jim and oddly thinking I don't know. I'm sure you have some metaphysical reason why you are doing this, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be something I would care about. I had a decent posting relationship with you when you weren't playing this game. Now you are coming across a bit creepy. Are you not aware that you are coming across as not only a bit creepy yourself, but also as the great fool; Barry's main Poodle on FFL that has bought into his fantasies, sink and hookers ? He's got you there, Curtis. Barry starts it, you pipe in, then Kirk and or Vaj. Except Kirk has now absented himself because wasn't responded to the way he expected. Poor baby. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Okay, time is right
Thanks again peeps for all the fine times. But the shoulder shagging is getting a bit furry. Time for this crying baby to be on his way. Till next time. Adios.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
At any rate accusation of child abuse and sexual misconduct were rife at NOIDA. - Original Message - From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Both Plus. Descriptions of activities from my gay Purusha buddy was beyond fears. Not to be a punk or anything but how many of them do you all think fuck each other? After I quit Purusha I learned of many abhorrent goings on. Abhorrent because the Purusha were supposed to be celibate, or abhorrent because the goings-on were homosexual? Years ago I dated a lady TM teacher who had been on staff at MIU. We spoke once over veggies and tofu (yuk!) about whether or not TM would !cure! homosexuality. She told me that there was a significant amount of gay men working on staff at MIU (woman seem to really pick up on this and can't let it go, even to this day). She also told me about massive amounts of corruption, lots of people pocketing MIU money. This would have been around the 1970s. Now my understanding was that Maharishi considered homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuality was discussed on a course I was on and the teacher said the official TM position was that being gay was due to stress, and in an enlightened society it therefore wouldn't occur. Stress can mean anything to someone steeped in SCI, but they were quick to point out that it's the way the world is and the gays aren't to blame(!) Seems to imply that they thought it wasn't a stress picked up in this life or that they weren't really thinking at all. Sounded to me like a way to hedge your bets and (hopefully) avoid offending anyone. This must mean that the gay guys I knew on purusha wouldn't ever get enlightenened, according to the prevailing view, until they had transcended their sexuality. The path is indeed long and winding! The Clintonian way: Don't Ask, Don't Tell... To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
You miss the point. My point was really that - does it matter what sort of personal ethics ones pundits have? As far as the outcome of theor yajna? - Original Message - From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Not to be a punk or anything but how many of them do you all think fuck each other? After I quit Purusha I learned of many abhorrent goings on. Not to be a punk or anything, but how amny celibate male religious types of ALL persuasions, including Japanese Zen Buddhists, do you think indulge in that kind of thing? THe rationale for the Japanese is that its relations with WOMEN that are a no-no not relations with men, and it was traditional for the Zen monastaries to room the accolytes across the hall from teh senior monks for easier access. Of course, Tibetan Buddhists, and Indian Hindu monks would NEVER indulge in that kind of abhorrent goings on... just the Japanese Zen types and the Catholic types, but not Tibetan or Hindu, nosireee. L. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you had to be a true believer, which one would you be?
Nablo parley vous - On FFL we mostly know him as a liar. ---Don't speak for eveyone. Barry, I find, is a great contributor here who often makes me proud to be part of this group due to his spoofing us. My ego is thereby stroked. Trollers, or semi-trollers, here, I find, often contribute nothing, or even make me embarrased to be part of this group. What I find hardest to understand is how so many spiritual accolytes disrespect one another thus often disproving their spiritual growth altogether. It's like heroin addicts dissing alcoholics. And vice versa. The very fact of abuse in each case shows each person to actually be in the same boat as the other. One who fights another must be at least similar enough to potentially make a connection with another. Thus one fighting the right must be at least close to the right in order to see and fight it. One on 'the right' may even think they are far left, but that's not true. Someone far left and someone far right will not ever make any connection to fight as they will have no means of communication and no sense of hope to do so. Thus Barry and Judy are necessarily more common to each other than they would wish to be perceived. Or else they wouldn't have any basis for their strange love/hate affair.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
What is the personal ethics in this situation? Are you saying that the gay pundits (assuming there are any) are de facto unethical? Lawson If they are brahmachari then yes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
Who judges these things? Lawson Such personal choices are judged by oneself. But I applaud you for being so self aware.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'
Prudence and her two chilluns were fixtures at MIU in the 80s. - Original Message - From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?' Kirk wrote: I met Prudence Farrow and she told me the real story. Yeah, but did you get her phone number? And if so, could you let me know it? I always wanted to meet at least one of the Farrows. Oh, well, guess I'll have to let go of that dream. R.G. - Original Message - From: Robert To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?' From Cynthia Lennon's biography... The Beatles publicly renounced drugs (although never completely) after their initial meetings with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in London, and took a train to Bangor, in Wales, to meet him again in the summer of 1967. A policeman stopped Cynthia from boarding the train as it was pulling out (not knowing who she was) with Lennon calling out of a window after her, Tell them to let you on!.[72] She broke down in tears, and later said that it symbolised where she felt their marriage was heading, with Lennon speeding into the future and herself being left behind.[73] Epstein had previously agreed to travel to Bangor to join them after the August Bank Holiday, but died of a drug overdose on 27 August 1967, which was a massive shock to both her and Lennon.[74][75] India The Beatles were scheduled to fly to India to visit the Maharishi for two or three months, but before that she found letters from Yoko Ono that made it clear that Lennon had had contact with her over a period of time. She had previously met Ono when Ono asked for a lift in Lennon's car after a meeting with the Maharishi in a London suburb.[76] Lennon denied that he was involved with Ono, and said that she was just some crazy artist who wanted to be sponsored, although Ono kept up a stream of calls and visits to Kenwood.[77] In February 1968, she flew to India with Lennon and the other Beatles and their partners.[78] She had taken pens and paper with her, so was able to draw, meditate with Lennon every day, and for the first time in her life she started to write poetry.[79] Magic Alex (Greek-born Alex Mardas who was part of Apple Electronics) was also with them, and smuggled in alcohol from the nearest village as it was not allowed in the ashram. After two weeks Lennon wanted to sleep in a separate room from her, saying that he could only meditate when he was alone.[80] She found out much later that Lennon walked down to the local post office every morning to see if he had received a telegram from Ono, who sent one almost daily.[79] Divorce Cynthia and Julian at Kenwood in 1968, after Lennon had left. She had suspicions of Lennon's infidelity over the years, and people had told her that he had had numerous affairs as far back as their time together at the art college in Liverpool, but she decided to ignore it, unless there was definite proof.[81] After returning to Kenwood from India, Lennon got very drunk on scotch and coke and confessed that there had been other women during his time with her. He detailed every groupie, friends of hers (such as Joan Baez, and Maureen Cleave) and told her about thousands of women around the globe.[82] She was totally taken aback at the time and simply replied, That's OK.[83] Two weeks later, in May 1968, Lennon suggested that she take a holiday in Greece with Mardas, Donovan and two friends. Lennon said that he would be very busy recording The White Album and that it would do her some good to take a break.[83] The beginning of the end for the Lennon's marriage came when she arrived back at Kenwood one day early from Greece on 22 May 1968, to discover Lennon and Ono sitting cross-legged on the floor, staring into each others eyes, and then found Ono's slippers outside their bedroom door.[84] She gathered a few things and asked Jenny Boyd and Mardas if she could spend the night at their apartment. At the apartment Boyd went straight to bed, but Mardas got Cynthia drunk and tried to convince her that they should both run away together. After she had been sick in the bathroom she collapsed on a bed in the spare bedroom, but Mardas joined her and tried to kiss her until she pushed him away.[85] Lennon seemed absolutely normal when she returned to Kenwood the next day, and maintained his love for her and Julian.[86] Lennon went to New York with McCartney shortly after and told her she could not go with them, so she went on a trip to Italy with her mother.[87] Mardas appeared during the holiday in Italy and broke the news that Lennon was planning to sue her for divorce
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit'
I object as I find Willytex to have changed perhaps the most of the early AMTers. Others seem to have had no transformation. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit' As fun as it may be to psychoanalyze, I think you're both complicating things unnecessarily. Nabby is a PRODUCT. Of Maharishi and in partic- ular in his case, of Purusha. He spent his and probably other people's money for decades so that he could be told how impor- tant he is and how superior he is to others. And then one day the money ran out, and he found out *exactly* how important he was to Maharishi, and he was told to hit the road. The anger we see aimed at us is IMO really his inability to deal with the possibility that he wasted his life. It's the *same* phenomenon IMO that we see in Judy and in others here. EVERY DAY Judy becomes more like Nabby and Willytex. They lash out at other people here, in between posting things designed to show how much smarter and in the know than they are than we commoners, but the thing that comes through the strongest to me is the fear of dealing with the possibility that they are mere suckers who been taken to the cleaners. Judy has NEVER dealt with that possibility, or even entertained it. Neither have Nabby or Off or other of the TBs here. Whereas most of the rest of us here have. And they hate us for that. Until they deal with that possibility, we will be the scapegoats and the targets of their rage. And the ones who have dealt with that possibility and have come to some sense of comfort with it will be the biggest targets. I think it's as simple as that. No need to go back any further in life to make it more complicated... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Typical immature narcissism spewing forth as rage and inability to consider other's views or feelings. I suggest early negative relationships from both parents and siblings. None of which have ever been worked through so that they are repeated here with all others. Meditation can be used as a mask for ones feelings while at the same time it makes those feelings even more appparent. TM alone though cannot work out our maladaptive tendencies without further psycho/physical discovery. It's too bad that TM doesn't consider any other type of system as being beneficial. Maharishi is much to blame for this as he thought all therapy outside of his tradition like 'shooting in the dark. Ironic then that steady TMers often come across as loose cannons, shooting through fog. I feel pity for Nab, but IMO that doesn't let him off the hook for being a messy mind. He obviously needs help. I believe that most people here can easily ascertain that. Many here need help. Without naming names, a few here are patently OCD. The day in which we decide to proactively seek a method for bettering ourselves is the day we could be said to be following the path of Dharma. Until then we are merely footballs getting kicked around by happenstance. TM alone is not a cure for samskara. Because we still live in karma. We need to learn every method to develop. Openness to ourselves and inner honesty is a sign of maturity. But narcissism may betray us by giving us a sense of rightness about our negative conditioning. Moreover, a person needs to learn to not act from negativity but from compassion. A system which just applies to the retreat setting will not necessarily carry over into activity. The way to figure out our intention is to question from where the motive for any action stems. Simply put, does the action stem from warmth or coldness? From pain or pleasure? From seeking to benefit others, or from inner rage at them. Of course we get all twisted by our own minds until we cannot even read our own feelings any longer. A habitual liar will not any longer be able to tell the truth, to others, nor to themselves. Therefore what is really needed is the sense of questing for unadulterated truth. If a seeker doesn't have that thirst for truth then they cannot ever find it in anything. And they certainly will not come across as being serious about their quest. Most likely they will be led astray by any person of charisma. - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise :-) I can understand why you want to believe this, as if it gets you off the hook for your
[FairfieldLife] Everything I need to know about FFL I learned from Psychoanalysis
To quote Robert Langdon (2003): The roots of attachment are consumptive (like greed, lust, gluttony, vanity-the usual self-aggrandizing desperations), aversive (hatred, envy, simple anger), and ignorant (shirking the responsibility of self-examination). A translation from moral terms to psychodynamic strategies is approximate but telling: vanity may well inbue narcissism; gluttory and greed may mask deprivation; lustfulness may shy from vulnerable intimacy; and hatred may serve complacency. Whether and how such links apply to a particular person or a particular time is open to examination, which is the dispelling of ignorance. I suggest that those who here show so much anger and yet at the same time are lifelong meditators, might necessarily be showing signs of meditation induced complacency. That complacency coupled with heightened awareness might produced heightened anger.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Everything I need to know about FFL I learned from Psychoanalysis
On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Kirk wrote: To quote Robert Langdon (2003): The roots of attachment are consumptive (like greed, lust, gluttony, vanity-the usual self-aggrandizing desperations), aversive (hatred, envy, simple anger), and ignorant (shirking the responsibility of self-examination). A translation from moral terms to psychodynamic strategies is approximate but telling: vanity may well inbue narcissism; gluttory and greed may mask deprivation; lustfulness may shy from vulnerable intimacy; and hatred may serve complacency. Whether and how such links apply to a particular person or a particular time is open to examination, which is the dispelling of ignorance. I suggest that those who here show so much anger and yet at the same time are lifelong meditators, might necessarily be showing signs of meditation induced complacency. That complacency coupled with heightened awareness might produced heightened anger. Or, they could simply be major assholes, who would undoubtedly be the same way whether they meditated or not. Sal -Perhaps, but that doesn't give one much to work with.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Don't Throw Out the Baby with the Bathwater (Re: Have YOU killed..?)
The point of dying for ones sins is that one need do no more sacrifices. - Original Message - From: yateendrajee mcint...@scn.org To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Don't Throw Out the Baby with the Bathwater (Re: Have YOU killed..?) The question of whether Jesus died for our sins may not be as trivial as it looks on the surface. It is a well-accepted doctrine in the East that a spiritual master often works out the karma of members of his circle by processing it through his/her own body. This can result in diseases and, in some cases, death for the master. Also, many in the East regard Jesus as the avatar, an incarnation of Vishnu, the universal sustainer (Rama and Krishna were also avatars of Vishnu). If Jesus was a universal master (a spiritual figure who claimed all humanity as his students, many of them unconscious of the fact), there is a logical basis for considering his sacrifice as having been on our behalf. One could also consider Jesus' sacrifice as a kind of clearing the atmosphere of that time, smoothing the path for future generations (Isaiah 40:4 uses a similar metaphor when prophesying the coming of the Messiah). On the foregoing basis, I'd answer Maharishi's question: He both lived *and* died for me. [I will freely admit that most practicing Christians have a limited understanding of the meaning of Jesus' sacrifice, and many other limitations in their beliefs, e.g., exclusivism (Jesus is the only way), etc.] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Once when a born again Christian (who also happened to be a TM teacher) told Maharishi that Christ died for his sins, Maharishi replied: Did he die for you or did he live for you? (snip) Great observation, simple and true... The whole 'Died for YOu'...is so absurd. ... Crazy Religion! R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
Not to be a punk or anything but how many of them do you all think fuck each other? After I quit Purusha I learned of many abhorrent goings on. - Original Message - From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org:80/maharishi_vedic_pandits12.html � in maharishi vedic city � INteresting. L. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Drinking and Cigars: a recognized religious rite and requirement
So how long were you and Nabby on Purusha together? Nabby was never on Purusha. It's obvious from his delerious state. They would never accept him. Purusha are quite serious about who they let join. Also if you exihibit mental derangement they kick you off, just like that!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
Well, we pay pundits presupposing that they are focused on our well being. But what if they are seething with an undercurrent of rage and hatred of the West, or maybe even just bubbling with old base desires themselves? Therefore I don't think background of transcendence alone is 'it' for creating a new generation of pundits. What would be more perfect would be if the pundits were fully individuated and fulfilled before they perform their rituals. We are told that yajnas work as based in numbers of reps and so on of invocation, but I more believe that since sacrafice is the real issue, the greater the hardship involved on behalf of the person funding the yajna the greater the faith and hence power behind it. Thus one penny sacrificed by an impoverished person is equal to a million bucks spent by a billionaire. There's really no objectivity in the whole system. There are basic moral and integral issues regarding holding these pundit/slaves, even if it is mere usury and not actual slavery. Caste promotion, etc One must consider the group of people they are supporting and decide if that's what they wish to represent. Now personally I do like having yajnas done as I feel it clarifies my mind. But I have to like my pundits and feel that they perform the ritual out of love rather than material necessity. That love can only be developed in individual pundits and cannot be forced on them from outside. The whole situation is very hokey in general. I also feel nothing from watching the videos of Maharishi pundits. I get more from local village tantrics and common practitioners who love what they are doing. - Original Message - From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits Let's face it, the only reason they're here is because they're desperate--desperate for money, desperate for opportunity and from a country where their hereditary right to be a vedic priest means less and less every day. Being a Vedic magician just ain't what it used to be. What's the underlying motivation here? To be a magical whore where there's more magical Johns? If they're not allowed to bring women with them, I think it's fair to assume 'they'll get it where they can'. On Apr 13, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Kirk wrote: Not to be a punk or anything but how many of them do you all think fuck each other? After I quit Purusha I learned of many abhorrent goings on. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits
Both Plus. Descriptions of activities from my gay Purusha buddy was beyond fears. - Original Message - From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 900 Pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Not to be a punk or anything but how many of them do you all think fuck each other? After I quit Purusha I learned of many abhorrent goings on. Abhorrent because the Purusha were supposed to be celibate, or abhorrent because the goings-on were homosexual? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?'
I met Prudence Farrow and she told me the real story. - Original Message - From: Robert To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Dear Cyn, won't you come out to Play?' From Cynthia Lennon's biography... The Beatles publicly renounced drugs (although never completely) after their initial meetings with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in London, and took a train to Bangor, in Wales, to meet him again in the summer of 1967. A policeman stopped Cynthia from boarding the train as it was pulling out (not knowing who she was) with Lennon calling out of a window after her, Tell them to let you on!.[72] She broke down in tears, and later said that it symbolised where she felt their marriage was heading, with Lennon speeding into the future and herself being left behind.[73] Epstein had previously agreed to travel to Bangor to join them after the August Bank Holiday, but died of a drug overdose on 27 August 1967, which was a massive shock to both her and Lennon.[74][75] India The Beatles were scheduled to fly to India to visit the Maharishi for two or three months, but before that she found letters from Yoko Ono that made it clear that Lennon had had contact with her over a period of time. She had previously met Ono when Ono asked for a lift in Lennon's car after a meeting with the Maharishi in a London suburb.[76] Lennon denied that he was involved with Ono, and said that she was just some crazy artist who wanted to be sponsored, although Ono kept up a stream of calls and visits to Kenwood.[77] In February 1968, she flew to India with Lennon and the other Beatles and their partners.[78] She had taken pens and paper with her, so was able to draw, meditate with Lennon every day, and for the first time in her life she started to write poetry.[79] Magic Alex (Greek-born Alex Mardas who was part of Apple Electronics) was also with them, and smuggled in alcohol from the nearest village as it was not allowed in the ashram. After two weeks Lennon wanted to sleep in a separate room from her, saying that he could only meditate when he was alone.[80] She found out much later that Lennon walked down to the local post office every morning to see if he had received a telegram from Ono, who sent one almost daily.[79] Divorce Cynthia and Julian at Kenwood in 1968, after Lennon had left. She had suspicions of Lennon's infidelity over the years, and people had told her that he had had numerous affairs as far back as their time together at the art college in Liverpool, but she decided to ignore it, unless there was definite proof.[81] After returning to Kenwood from India, Lennon got very drunk on scotch and coke and confessed that there had been other women during his time with her. He detailed every groupie, friends of hers (such as Joan Baez, and Maureen Cleave) and told her about thousands of women around the globe.[82] She was totally taken aback at the time and simply replied, That's OK.[83] Two weeks later, in May 1968, Lennon suggested that she take a holiday in Greece with Mardas, Donovan and two friends. Lennon said that he would be very busy recording The White Album and that it would do her some good to take a break.[83] The beginning of the end for the Lennon's marriage came when she arrived back at Kenwood one day early from Greece on 22 May 1968, to discover Lennon and Ono sitting cross-legged on the floor, staring into each others eyes, and then found Ono's slippers outside their bedroom door.[84] She gathered a few things and asked Jenny Boyd and Mardas if she could spend the night at their apartment. At the apartment Boyd went straight to bed, but Mardas got Cynthia drunk and tried to convince her that they should both run away together. After she had been sick in the bathroom she collapsed on a bed in the spare bedroom, but Mardas joined her and tried to kiss her until she pushed him away.[85] Lennon seemed absolutely normal when she returned to Kenwood the next day, and maintained his love for her and Julian.[86] Lennon went to New York with McCartney shortly after and told her she could not go with them, so she went on a trip to Italy with her mother.[87] Mardas appeared during the holiday in Italy and broke the news that Lennon was planning to sue her for divorce on grounds of adultery, seek sole custody of Julian, and send Cynthia back to Hoylake.[88] She said in 2005: The mere fact that ‘Magic Alex’ [Mardas] arrived in Italy in the middle of the night without any prior knowledge of where I was staying made me extremely suspicious. I was being coerced into making it easy for Lennon and Yoko to accuse me of doing something that would make them not look so bad.[89] She was allowed to return to Kenwood, while Lennon and Ono took up residence at Starr's flat at 34 Montagu Square.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit'
Nowblowus a dit: It's not rare on FFL, quite the contrary. Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise :-) And yet your writing is very common, hypocritical, and generally devoid of intelligence. Seems you are angry at yourself for producing the lackluster and common dialectic that you yourself despise. Then you reify it as coming from others. How could it be otherwise? Since you often are not even on the same page with other contributors here. I suggest that you're borderline psychopathic - not pitta. To be pitta you must have some constitution to begin with, whereas in your case character and constitution seem utterly disintegrated to begin with.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit'
You win! You have reserved a spot in my trashbin. Bye Bye Nab. - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise :-) What do you mean by commoner? Fools. Those that buy into coventional wisdom. Those that follow the mainstream and that only understand they have been fooled when it is too late. In other words, Nabby on his deathbed, still waiting for heaven on earth and Maitreya. In other words, the Turq; jobless, living in a shelter far away from home, finally realizing his descision to leave the TMO and joining Rama and various Buddhists cults was a mistake. The fool of fools really. Some time ago this charachter, the Turq, challenged me to tell him what would be the attached karma of a Turkey who plays the role of a Missionary. I'm happy to let him know now; within three years he will not even be able to feed his dogs. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit'
Typical immature narcissism spewing forth as rage and inability to consider other's views or feelings. I suggest early negative relationships from both parents and siblings. None of which have ever been worked through so that they are repeated here with all others. Meditation can be used as a mask for ones feelings while at the same time it makes those feelings even more appparent. TM alone though cannot work out our maladaptive tendencies without further psycho/physical discovery. It's too bad that TM doesn't consider any other type of system as being beneficial. Maharishi is much to blame for this as he thought all therapy outside of his tradition like 'shooting in the dark. Ironic then that steady TMers often come across as loose cannons, shooting through fog. I feel pity for Nab, but IMO that doesn't let him off the hook for being a messy mind. He obviously needs help. I believe that most people here can easily ascertain that. Many here need help. Without naming names, a few here are patently OCD. The day in which we decide to proactively seek a method for bettering ourselves is the day we could be said to be following the path of Dharma. Until then we are merely footballs getting kicked around by happenstance. TM alone is not a cure for samskara. Because we still live in karma. We need to learn every method to develop. Openness to ourselves and inner honesty is a sign of maturity. But narcissism may betray us by giving us a sense of rightness about our negative conditioning. Moreover, a person needs to learn to not act from negativity but from compassion. A system which just applies to the retreat setting will not necessarily carry over into activity. The way to figure out our intention is to question from where the motive for any action stems. Simply put, does the action stem from warmth or coldness? From pain or pleasure? From seeking to benefit others, or from inner rage at them. Of course we get all twisted by our own minds until we cannot even read our own feelings any longer. A habitual liar will not any longer be able to tell the truth, to others, nor to themselves. Therefore what is really needed is the sense of questing for unadulterated truth. If a seeker doesn't have that thirst for truth then they cannot ever find it in anything. And they certainly will not come across as being serious about their quest. Most likely they will be led astray by any person of charisma. - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise :-) I can understand why you want to believe this, as if it gets you off the hook for your behavior here. But I believe the reality is much simpler. You just don't come across as a thoughtful person. In my life I have never found that arrogance, like the kind you display here, is hiding anything interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The stories about Saint Teresa of Avilla are just that, stories. To take them as literal facts is insulting to our intelligence today. Oh, please Curtis. Do not use our and intelligence based on your limited understanding of just about anything. There is no our intelligence based on your level; that's an insult. On miracles and such, is it safe to say anything can't be so because it is not in our experience or belief? Quite, that seems to be the case. Or not even within the range of the deranged intuition of the particular individual. On insults and such, I would think that long time seekers would have a level of equanimity and mellowness that would make this quite rare. It's not rare on FFL, quite the contrary. Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise :-) To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] The View From Canada
My ego requires none of this to feel okay. - Original Message - From: Robert To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The View From Canada SaLuSa 8-April-2009 We know that our messages reach far and wide, and some people do not take them seriously. We tell you it is no joke, but a very serious time in your evolution. Failure to comprehend the gravity of the situation you are facing, will leave you at the mercy of those who would enslave you for the rest of your life. The opportunity you have to make a quantum leap forward comes very rarely, but it is there for all who are prepared to live the vision of Ascension. You have a once in many lifetimes opportunity to completely leave the lower dimensions behind. We are aware that so many of you tire of the never-ending turmoil that the dark forces create on Earth. That is their way to stall your spiritual progress, and have you make believe that there is no way out of the dark. Dear Ones, you cannot beat the dark forces at their own game, but have the advantage of being able to create a future that breaks their hold upon you. You of the Light have so much power that you can change the time line you are on. It requires dedication and trust that your efforts will produce results. It is the visualization of the end result you seek that will attract the energies that bring it about. Time is not a factor, as events will proceed in the manner that is best suited for success. As more of you envision a similar end time, so the energy becomes even more powerful. This is why an important part of our mission is to help you understand what is required of you. You moved yourselves beyond the Millennium when you might otherwise have experienced the end of the cycle. You created a chance for everyone to find their god selves, thus giving more souls the opportunity to break free from duality. You must admit that the last few years have given you a roller coaster ride, but what you are experiencing is no funfair ride. It is your future that is at stake, and although many higher Beings accompany you and give of their help, it is you and your actions that will determine the outcome. We are confident that you will rise to the occasion, and overcome the odds that seem stacked against you. You really have all of the answers, but many just do not believe in their own creative power. We can only do so much without being seen to interfere, but give us the chance to mount a peace mission with you and jointly we shall be a formidable force for good. The Creator has expressed a desire that all within your Universe shall ascend, and it is only your Earth that is experiencing a battle to be part of that upliftment. All other planets and dimensions are sufficiently advanced, to move with the changes without any difficulty. Nevertheless, the Earth is considered a success in bringing souls into the knowing of the changes, so that each one can make their own decision regarding their future. It is time for the people to make their mark, and be responsible for the direction they go into. It is clear to many that you cannot return to the old ways, but use your power to ensure that your governments are aware of your interest in determining your own future. They will listen, as they know the power has shifted from them to you. This is all part of the necessary changes that will restore your freedom and right to choose your own destiny. It is far too long since you had a firm say in your lives direction. These are times when seemingly miracles can happen, and some events will both shock and amaze the people. Be prepared to adopt a new mindset, but be sure to look for what is for the good of all. There are days to come when at a single stroke the U.S. President shall astound his critics by the changes he will authorize. No President of late has been one specifically chosen by the people, and therefore his decisions will reflect that aspect of his appointment. He is in any event, a highly motivated soul bringing much wisdom and authority with him. He has a great responsibility thrust upon his shoulders, but is equal to the task. Already he is making overtures to foreign powers that would otherwise be considered enemies of the Western World. Obama seeks peace instead of hostilities, and knows that he must build trust where previously there was nothing but confrontation. Humanity is being
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: a quintessential Movement parody
This was hilarious and makes me proud to be a part of the Movement. There is certainly a lot of natural humour in the TM Movement. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: a quintessential Movement parody --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brah...@... wrote: http://horizontalprogram.blogspot.com/ This is a fitting subject for my last post of the week. I simply cannot *believe* that no one has downloaded these and commented on them yet! Maybe they are all well-known among Fairfield Ru's, and so they are old news. But they are new news to me, and I have to send a hearty Well done, and I hope to share a beer or 10,000 with you in Hell to the albums' creators. This is REALLY, REALLY FUNNY STUFF !!! And really well-recorded as well. Great produc- tion, great harmonies and instrumentation, the whole tamale. Truly wonderful in joke humor, almost certainly lost on anyone who has never paid their dues in the TMO, but chuckle city to anyone who has. Deep bow. This is some of the ballsiest and most well-done spiritual parody I have ever seen in my entire life. I am in awe. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers are so desperate for praise they accept it from Bill O'Reilly
This analogy beaks down quite quickly when one considers that many plants thrive best when stressed while others who have ideal conditions compete with other plants eventually for growing space. The master gardener knows what plants to plant where and how to grow them. They do not just throw seeds to the wind. Such persons who do are not gardeners. Make of that what you will, but even an otherwise good and vigorous plant, when planted by mistake still becomes a weed due to wrong location. Also besides having right conditions at the start, cultivation means watching the process, knowing the entire range of the plants growing cycle and when to harvest. Otherwise no cultivation can be said to have been accomplished. If considered from this standpoint, analogically, then it can be said that TMO has little or no plans for cultivation beyond a certain point, probably due to not knowing the entire range of growing cycle of the human, since as of yet most of TMO's claims are merely fantasy and fiction. Little science, or understanding can be said to be obvious in the Movement's handling of human resources. The only way TM can lead one to liberation is if the technique has all the natural internal guidance within itself to grow one to their fruition. Otherwise there's no cultivation within the TMO for those who need it. Checking alone is just for the technique. One always must consider what seed was really planted. I know for myself what my mantra is, do you? I doubt it! - Original Message - From: bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers are so desperate for praise they accept it from Bill O'Reilly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: ing. The point about the health food store is that Stern is qualified to say TM is a good thing, even if he's not too sattvic a guy -- even as anybody even in the worst health can sell stuff at a health food store. But if that sick person says, here, I have been eating this health food for years, look at how it has helped me and you a sick person, wouldn't a reasonable person wonder about how healthy that food really is? And if all you can grow is a shriveled plant what is the point? The point is that every human has his/her own environment, internal, karmic, surroundings, so it won't do to say that the expectations for growth are the same for all in whom the seed is planted. If two planters are sidebyside, with one with no weeds, good soil, etc, and the other is deprived of water, bad soil, choked with weeds, etc, then a shrivelly plant from the same seed in the poor planter could say to the thriving plant in the good planter, hey, how come I'm not doing as well as you?, but the answer would surely be obvious. With the exception of a handful of people, the most severely mentally ill people (who could possibly do ten minutes of TM, not in a group), the usual schedule of TM practice produces excellent results in stress reduction and expansion of awareness. I quit smoking (a three pack/day habit) after 10 months of TM without making any effort at all to quit -- the habit lost me, and I never dreamed about smoking, which people who force themselves to quit usually do. This does not mean that TM works the same for everybody, as is obvious with David Lynch, still smoking cigs after 37 yrs of TM. Even a shrivelled plant is better off with TM than without -- and of course the great majority of people practicing TM longterm have significant growth, which is why they continue the practice...Howard Stern knows TM is good for him, even if people question his character, so it's legit for him to say it's a good thing. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawk Cam
I have *never in my life* run into so many consistently ethically vacuous, ethically *oblivious* people as I have on FFL. -Mirror time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers are so desperate for praise they accept it from Bill O'Reilly
Lately, due to Facebook, I finally met up with old MIU buddies, and I was surprised to find that many if not most all of my friends are now in some humanitarian line of work. Even some people who seemed never to be that humanistic. So TM may be part of the growth of their compassion. One thing is certain and that is that no growth of awareness is wasted and growth of awareness does generally lead to becoming more compassionate. If one hasn't grown in compassion as a result of growth of awareness then it's most likely due to lack of any support in the environment for expressing that growth. But the TMO and other spiritual groups do lead to increased awareness, and they do also lead to communities based in compassion. How far they go is an expression of the system, or at very least is based in the environment of the system. Technique alone is not everything. - Original Message - From: ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers are so desperate for praise they accept it from Bill O'Reilly --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: But BILL O'REILLY? That's going too far. *** I've never liked Howard Stern's schtick, and I don't like O'Reilly's schtick, but so what? They both are displaying an enthusiasm for TM, and I like that. Like MMY always said, even a sick man can run a health-food store. The analogy might work with O'Reilly, but Stern is a meditator and has been for years. And he is not who you would point to as on the road to enlightenment, would you? Which of us is in a position to determine who is on the road and who isn't? You think he has reached cosmic consciousness yet? Who knows, and who cares? His sidekick, Robin Quivers (also a committed TMer), says when people tell her they can't believe Stern meditates, she says, Think of what he would be like without TM. (No, that's not meant to be proof of anything. The point is, you can't tell where a person is on the path and shouldn't attempt to judge.) So how healthy is that health food? Stern's fabulously successful at what he does. Seems like TM was pretty healthy for him. (But that's kind of not the point of MMY's analogy of the owner of the health-food store, you know?) OK, so TM can make you a fabulously successful shock jock. Well, that doesn't do it for me. I maintain that it is fair to form an impression of TM by looking at long term meditators and their lives and looking at the organizations that promote TM and looking looking at what MMY had to say. Like Curtis said, the people don't seem any better off or any better people than non-meditators. I think that it is fair to have an impression of the effectiveness TM by looking at the meditators I know and seeing whether they are happy and well adjusted, whether they are successful contributors to society and have good family relationships. Unfortunately, I know too many long term meditators that have lives filled with problems. They might go on and on about the good meditation they had or hint at wonderful experiences, but it ends there. I trust that they were not all coming from such a low level that if they had not done TM they would be even less well adjusted. I find listening to the leaders of the movement especially unimpressive. I find reading what they write unimpressive. I find the sidelines especially unimpressive. Send me a check and I will arrange a yagya. But I won't talk to you if your house doesn't face east. Oh, let me take your pulse and prescribe you a vatta pacifying diet. If TM works, it sure doesn't seem to work very well. Most people quit. If the siddhis work, they don't work very well. No one flies and if it is hot out the murder rate will still go up. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM-ex crowd angry after 3 out of 4 Beatles support MMY - was /// Re: Transce
Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness?
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM-ex crowd angry after 3 out of 4 Beatles support MMY - was /// Re: Transce
Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness? Only you can say -- and possibly not even then. It brings up, in my mind, Plato's concepts of eternal forms. If Beauty is an etnernal form, and its found within each of us, then yes, seeing beauty in others is a projection of what is inside of us. But seeing beauty (or ugliness) in others might also be a compensating projection. That is, we lack something, and seeing more than meets the eye somehow fills that gap. Anyway, I am just speculating. So I guess my point is that we have the seeds of projection within us, or we wouldn't reach out to others. We all come together in weakness to fill a lack. We don't generally count our qualities and bring them to others who lack, but the reverse, we consider our lack and reach out to others to fill it. Needs direct us, and I feel it's a more Maslowvian hierarchy, as well fulfiull certain needs we yet raise our sights to others to direct our interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?
Is that true? They should still sell ice cream though cause it was the cheapest. - Original Message - From: shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's? Believe it or not, Woolworth's became... Footlocker! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] I'AM TRYING TO SAVE YOU! SO LISTEN UP!
Where is this devil. I bet you don't know. you're jumping at shadows. - Original Message - From: jimjim5886 jimjim5...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] I'AM TRYING TO SAVE YOU! SO LISTEN UP! I'am trying to save your soul! You have been decieved by the devil and are blind to the truth! I'am gods prophet in Rev. 11 and Zechariah 4. I'am the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah, also James Zebedee! I'am here to forewarn you of your impending doom! If you don't listen to me you will be cursed by God as in Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. And then the chances of your burning in hell will ownly increace! You don't have much time left before it's to late. Thats why i have been good enough to try to explain the truth to you about the 2 messiahs in the bible, and who i'am and why i'am here. I'am the only one who can reveal the man of sin (anti-christ) to the world. It will be only after i have done this that the devil satan will be cast out of hevean. Until that time the Devil, Satan will remain in heaven and deceive the world and accuse man kind before god as in Rev. 12... 7 Then war broke out in heaven; Michael 8 and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, 8 but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, 9 who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: Now have salvation and power come, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Anointed. For the accuser 10 of our brothers is cast out, who accuses them before our God day and night. If you read all of my posts you will learn a lot more about the real truth. It's like Gabriel told me, ALL THE CHURCHS ARE GUILTY OF ABOMINATIONS. He also said that what they teach is brain wash. None of the gospels and other books of the new testament are original, but are copies that have been past down and embellished over a period of the first few hundred years after christ. So know one knows what the original books and Letters said. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Facebook
Hey, Facebook's really cool. I just bumped into a whole bunch of people from Maharishi U over the last few days. As well as some friends from here. I am proud to be real legit as I found my pic even in someone else's yearbook posting of Unity of MIU yearbook. Ninke Passi, man she is still so beautiful, if not soreso than ever. She is sooo pretty. Nice to see many old friends doing so well. Also bumped into --oops, old girlfriends. Feeling sort of guilty for renewing some ties.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature!
Adam and Eve huhhuh put that one in - Original Message - From: Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature! Scientists have created a Eureka machine that can work out the laws of nature by observing the world around it - a development that could dramatically speed up the discovery of new scientific truths. The machine took only hours to come up with the basic laws of motion, a task that occupied Sir Isaac Newton for years after he was inspired by an apple falling from a tree. Scientists at Cornell University in New York have already pointed the machine at baffling problems in biology and plan to use it to tackle questions in cosmology and social behaviour. The work marks a turning point in the way science is done. Eureka moments, which supposedly began in Archimedes' bath more than 2,000 years ago, might soon be happening not in the minds of geniuses, but through the warm hum of electronic circuitry. We've reached a point in science where there's a lot of data to deal with. It's not Newton looking at an apple, or Galileo looking at heavenly bodies any more, it's more complex than that, said Hod Lipson, the computer engineer who led the project. This takes the grunt out of science by sifting through data and looking for the laws that govern how something behaves. Details of the machine are described in the US journal Science. The study appears alongside a report from scientists at the universities of Aberystwyth and Cambridge describing the first discovery of new scientific knowledge by a laboratory robot. The robot, called Adam, devised and performed experiments to investigate the genetics of bakers' yeast. When scientists did their own experiments, they came to the same conclusions. Ross's team is already working on a second robot called Eve. Together, the papers raise the question of how the role of scientists will change over the coming decades. For now, scientists believe the new technology will work alongside them rather than relegate them to technicians who tap in data and perform maintenance tasks, but leave the real thinking to the machines. The Cornell machine uses a computer program that can search through huge amounts of data and look for underlying patterns. For example, a falling apple will abide by Newton's second law, which is often stated as F=ma, where F is the force acting on an object, m is its mass, and a is its acceleration. When fed information on the mass of the apple and its velocity as it falls, the machine would be able to work out the equation. Lipson tested the machine by giving it information from basic lab experiments, such as swinging pendulums and tiny cars that moved up and down tracks on a cushion of air. After crunching through the data, the machine pinged and displayed several laws of motion and conservation of momentum. The system runs its own checks to decide whether the laws it has found are likely to be interesting. In the pendulum test, for example, the tip of the pendulum is always the same distance from the pivot, but this does not shed any light on the underlying physics. After proving that the machine worked, Lipson's team set it to work on the complex problem of metabolism in biological cells. The computer produced some equations, which the scientists are still trying to make sense of. It's like going to an oracle and asking what's going on. You are given an equation, but you need to work out what it means before you can understand what's really going on, said Lipson. The team say they also plan to look at problems in cosmology and even social behaviour, which could reveal the underlying laws at play when people form social networks on the internet. The real test now is whether it can discover new laws of nature and I believe it will. There's no way forward in a lot of sciences without tools like this, Lipson said. http://tinyurl.com/dk5dsz http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/apr/02/eureka-laws-nature-artificial-intelligence-ai To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind!
TMO is about PR because it shapes world opinion and the war of religions and converts is fought as based upon it. - Original Message - From: boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: please help me make up my mind! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i can't figure out which to pay attention to, the huge upcoming concert for TM on April 4th in the big apple with the biggest names in the music business, or John Knapp and the other TM bashers whining about TM and how unsuccessful snicker the practice and the TM cult is... (hmmm...Knapp even posted a comment at the link below, and uh, no one objected because no one even noticed...poor guy reminds me of those nuts in the cartoons carrying a the end is near sign...) i think i'll toss my bag in with Paul and Ringo and Sheryl and Eddie and the others. now there's a group of rabid TM TBs i can hang with, putting their money where their mouth is! I'm not a knapp fan but it's revealing that tmers think that this concert means that tm and the tm org are successful. The teaching of tm has been dead for decades. The mov't big recert enlightenment centers plan wasted about $11 million from my reading of the public books. Of course tm either did or didn't work well whether this concert happened or not. The concert should pick up initiations a little for awhile but the infrastructure is gone from decades of culty mismanagement. Anyway -- why is it that the tmo org is so addicted and obsessed with PR events??? Also consider that if lynch and the performers were not active tm promoters then they would be considered negative loser unenlightened smokers and tamasic rock stars by rank and file tmoers. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Hay LooOk at Me
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?sid=de71ecb8efac76e35fef9d50d1479737init=qsf=rk=4010n=-1q=obama#/photo.php?pid=676943id=713477296ref=mf Hope that url works I'se the funny guy in the top and the pretty black girl two rows down was my girlfriend
