Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Bhairitu, grass roots is exactly what's happening in FF wrt the Heartland Co-op situation. A local fellow has started a group called AHEAD and they're following guidelines from an organization called The Democracy School, which I think also grew out of a community's attempt to deal with environmental pollution. OMG! The closest we've come to physical violence in FF is when the Rt 34 bypass was being discussed. One friend said she actually felt afraid when she and her husband attended a meeting about it. Anyway, Iowa DOT ruled in favor of going south, rather than north by campus, and that night, a whole row of cars on campus had their car windows smashed out! On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:58 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You'll probably find more tea partiers that are pro-alternative health than you will find in the liberal ranks. Some liberals tend to be mindlessly pro-science and think alternative care is quackery even though it is being validated by research every day. Not all people aligning themselves with the tea party movement are conservatives either but more populist in dialectic. We had one candidate, a long time Democrat, campaign amongst the tea partiers against our 40 year Congressman, George Miller, because he felt that George sold us out on single payer health care. What is really needed is a grass roots movement not aligned with either party who will run the career politicians and corporate shills out of town, state and DC. The revolution should begin in your own community by seeing if your city council really has the interest of it's citizens in mind or their own pocketbooks. The latter happens because no one wants to run for these offices except opportunists. Or locally I heard that one person who did make on the council and was planning to run for re-election was told not to or he would not live to take office. On 06/14/2014 12:13 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Fleetwood, I wonder how the Monsanto people sleep at night, especially if they know about the farmers in India committing suicide because they can't afford to buy the company's GMO seeds! On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:13 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am astonished at the amount of corruption at the local levels of government. Our city council has laws changed, goes against the recommendations of its own planning commission regularly, and pulls some amazing trickery, to ultimately defraud its citizens. The council positions are seen as springboards to State Senate positions. Two have run so far, but neither one made it. We had 14 acres of former agricultural land used by the state university system, that developers were drooling over; the last significant open space, left in the city. The only way they got approval by voters for the development, was to pretend that 30% of the land was to go for low income senior housing. Now that all the million dollar houses, on postage stamp lots, are in, the announcement was made that plans have been withdrawn for the senior housing - couldn't find funding, or a developer. Ah, politics. Next, in order to get a new stadium built, saddling this city of 100,000, with a debt of $800 million, our city council used to pack council meetings with pro-stadium advocates, from surrounding towns, who would not be paying for it. The council also voted themselves in, as, The Stadium Council, hobnobbing with the 49ers management, and enjoying future box seats. State law was also changed, to specifically bypass the bidding process, for the stadium builder. Ugly stuff - no new taxes was the pledge, and true to their word, the city-owned utility company has justified rate hikes of 40%, but, no new taxes. How do these people sleep at night? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You'll probably find more tea partiers that are pro-alternative health than you will find in the liberal ranks. Some liberals tend to be mindlessly pro-science and think alternative care is quackery even though it is being validated by research every day. Not all people aligning themselves with the tea party movement are conservatives either but more populist in dialectic. We had one candidate, a long time Democrat, campaign amongst the tea partiers against our 40 year Congressman, George Miller, because he felt that George sold us out on single payer health care. What is really needed is a grass roots movement not aligned with either party who will run the career politicians and corporate shills out of town, state and DC. The revolution should begin in your own community by seeing if your city council really has the interest of it's citizens in mind or their own pocketbooks. The latter happens because no one wants to run for these offices except opportunists. Or locally I heard that one person who did make on the council and was planning to run for re-election was told not to or he would not live to take office. On 06/14/2014 12:13 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Yeah, that kind of remote brutality is really ugly, simply to make a buck. To make matters worse, India provides nothing, for its poorest citizens - no protection, no healthcare, and certainly no social security payments - so I can imagine it is nearly impossible to advance from that soul killing poverty. The reason Monsanto gets into these places, like India, is because of a government that is corrupt, all the way down to the village level. Lots and lots of bribery. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, I wonder how the Monsanto people sleep at night, especially if they know about the farmers in India committing suicide because they can't afford to buy the company's GMO seeds! On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:13 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am astonished at the amount of corruption at the local levels of government. Our city council has laws changed, goes against the recommendations of its own planning commission regularly, and pulls some amazing trickery, to ultimately defraud its citizens. The council positions are seen as springboards to State Senate positions. Two have run so far, but neither one made it. We had 14 acres of former agricultural land used by the state university system, that developers were drooling over; the last significant open space, left in the city. The only way they got approval by voters for the development, was to pretend that 30% of the land was to go for low income senior housing. Now that all the million dollar houses, on postage stamp lots, are in, the announcement was made that plans have been withdrawn for the senior housing - couldn't find funding, or a developer. Ah, politics. Next, in order to get a new stadium built, saddling this city of 100,000, with a debt of $800 million, our city council used to pack council meetings with pro-stadium advocates, from surrounding towns, who would not be paying for it. The council also voted themselves in, as, The Stadium Council, hobnobbing with the 49ers management, and enjoying future box seats. State law was also changed, to specifically bypass the bidding process, for the stadium builder. Ugly stuff - no new taxes was the pledge, and true to their word, the city-owned utility company has justified rate hikes of 40%, but, no new taxes. How do these people sleep at night? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You'll probably find more tea partiers that are pro-alternative health than you will find in the liberal ranks. Some liberals tend to be mindlessly pro-science and think alternative care is quackery even though it is being validated by research every day. Not all people aligning themselves with the tea party movement are conservatives either but more populist in dialectic. We had one candidate, a long time Democrat, campaign amongst the tea partiers against our 40 year Congressman, George Miller, because he felt that George sold us out on single payer health care. What is really needed is a grass roots movement not aligned with either party who will run the career politicians and corporate shills out of town, state and DC. The revolution should begin in your own community by seeing if your city council really has the interest of it's citizens in mind or their own pocketbooks. The latter happens because no one wants to run for these offices except opportunists. Or locally I heard that one person who did make on the council and was planning to run for re-election was told not to or he would not live to take office. On 06/14/2014 12:13 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Isn't she a GG Granddaughter of Hiawatha? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
You'll probably find more tea partiers that are pro-alternative health than you will find in the liberal ranks. Some liberals tend to be mindlessly pro-science and think alternative care is quackery even though it is being validated by research every day. Not all people aligning themselves with the tea party movement are conservatives either but more populist in dialectic. We had one candidate, a long time Democrat, campaign amongst the tea partiers against our 40 year Congressman, George Miller, because he felt that George sold us out on single payer health care. What is really needed is a grass roots movement not aligned with either party who will run the career politicians and corporate shills out of town, state and DC. The revolution should begin in your own community by seeing if your city council really has the interest of it's citizens in mind or their own pocketbooks. The latter happens because no one wants to run for these offices except opportunists. Or locally I heard that one person who did make on the council and was planning to run for re-election was told not to or he would not live to take office. On 06/14/2014 12:13 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren May be the One
I am astonished at the amount of corruption at the local levels of government. Our city council has laws changed, goes against the recommendations of its own planning commission regularly, and pulls some amazing trickery, to ultimately defraud its citizens. The council positions are seen as springboards to State Senate positions. Two have run so far, but neither one made it. We had 14 acres of former agricultural land used by the state university system, that developers were drooling over; the last significant open space, left in the city. The only way they got approval by voters for the development, was to pretend that 30% of the land was to go for low income senior housing. Now that all the million dollar houses, on postage stamp lots, are in, the announcement was made that plans have been withdrawn for the senior housing - couldn't find funding, or a developer. Ah, politics. Next, in order to get a new stadium built, saddling this city of 100,000, with a debt of $800 million, our city council used to pack council meetings with pro-stadium advocates, from surrounding towns, who would not be paying for it. The council also voted themselves in, as, The Stadium Council, hobnobbing with the 49ers management, and enjoying future box seats. State law was also changed, to specifically bypass the bidding process, for the stadium builder. Ugly stuff - no new taxes was the pledge, and true to their word, the city-owned utility company has justified rate hikes of 40%, but, no new taxes. How do these people sleep at night? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You'll probably find more tea partiers that are pro-alternative health than you will find in the liberal ranks. Some liberals tend to be mindlessly pro-science and think alternative care is quackery even though it is being validated by research every day. Not all people aligning themselves with the tea party movement are conservatives either but more populist in dialectic. We had one candidate, a long time Democrat, campaign amongst the tea partiers against our 40 year Congressman, George Miller, because he felt that George sold us out on single payer health care. What is really needed is a grass roots movement not aligned with either party who will run the career politicians and corporate shills out of town, state and DC. The revolution should begin in your own community by seeing if your city council really has the interest of it's citizens in mind or their own pocketbooks. The latter happens because no one wants to run for these offices except opportunists. Or locally I heard that one person who did make on the council and was planning to run for re-election was told not to or he would not live to take office. On 06/14/2014 12:13 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, huh?! Why are Tea Partyers anti GMO? That surprises me. I think there were only 22 Dems who voted against the Monsanto Protection bill. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Pro-GMO and Pro-Monsanto is political suicide. We need to actively campaign against anyone thus so. Unfortunately the majority of anti-GMO candidates are Tea Partiers. On 06/14/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John, I think it's a mixed bag wrt Elizabeth Warren. She's getting a lot of press and she's a fresh face. BUT, she's inexperienced. Her vote pro Monsanto might alienate the liberals. Her championing leniency on college loans might alienate blue color liberals. If there are any left in the US! How is she on abortion? Yes, she's taking on the banksters, and that's a great start, but consequently, where will her campaign funding come from? Did you ever get a chance to look at her chart? On Saturday, June 14, 2014 11:28 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One writer states she's presidential material. What do you think? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/elizabeth-warren-not-hill_b_5491171.html
