Re: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I would agree with this, synaesthesia seems to represent cross-wiring of the 
nervous system.  

 There has been a trend in academia of late creating all sorts of terminology 
to give verbal meaning and definition to what is essentially visual awareness 
in the arts, such as in painting, photography, sculpture, etc., and the 
language is often quite pompous and erudite sounding, seemingly giving sense 
and depth and meaning to a work of art, which might just be a piece of crap. 
 

 'Embodied experience' is a term that normally would be found in discussions of 
ignorance versus enlightenment. It doesn't seem to me to be a very useful term 
for describing art. 
 

 A person who looks at a work of art has an experience. Not much to go on 
there. Dressing it up in high sounding phrases doesn't add much, as viewing or 
listening to art is essentially a non-verbal perception. It is our visceral 
response to art that is central theme, the art itself does not contain these 
things, something in the art triggers these responses in our awareness, the 
greatness of the artist determines how well this is accomplished; we do not 
need to be told that it does this; if a description is required, probably it is 
not art, but a pretence to seem as art.
 

 The terms are for art critics and professors, a true artist can just ignore 
the whole thing.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Card, I don't know what your sister is into, but it doesn't sound to me as if 
either of you understands what synesthesia is. That's what happens when 
information perceived by one sense triggers a simultaneous perception in 
another, unrelated sense but with no direct input that could cause this second 
sensory perception. For example, you look at a painting and it makes you taste 
something. 

 

 None of this as I understand it has anything to do with the concept of 
"embodied experience." Some people are using that phrase as a buzzword for 
virtual environments in which sensorimotor technology is used to provoke the 
sensation of feeling or smell or hearing. That's not really synesthesia because 
something mechanical is actually triggering these perceptions. 

 

 

 From: "cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 11:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?
 
 
   My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring to 
synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for that. THX 
in advance...
   



















Re: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

We both understand what synesthesia is, but I'm not sure whether "embodied 
experience" 
accurately describes what she is trying to connect with synesthesia, if I've 
got it right.   

It seems to me she's mistranslated the Finnish expression, but that's very hard 
for me
to know for sure...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Card, I don't know what your sister is into, but it doesn't sound to me as if 
either of you understands what synesthesia is. That's what happens when 
information perceived by one sense triggers a simultaneous perception in 
another, unrelated sense but with no direct input that could cause this second 
sensory perception. For example, you look at a painting and it makes you taste 
something. 

 

 None of this as I understand it has anything to do with the concept of 
"embodied experience." Some people are using that phrase as a buzzword for 
virtual environments in which sensorimotor technology is used to provoke the 
sensation of feeling or smell or hearing. That's not really synesthesia because 
something mechanical is actually triggering these perceptions. 

 

 

 From: "cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 11:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?
 
 
   My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring to 
synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for that. THX 
in advance...
   


















Re: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/29/2014 6:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Card, I don't know what your sister is into, but it doesn't sound to 
me as if either of you understands what synesthesia is. That's what 
happens when information perceived by one sense triggers a 
simultaneous perception in another, unrelated sense but with no direct 
input that could cause this second sensory perception. For example, 
you look at a painting and it makes you taste something.

>
Another example might be Rama up on a stage "slowly rising up off of a 
sofa and flying around for a few minutes", and then you sensing that the 
lecture hall was all "golden", except in this case the perceptions are 
related. A more accurate term may be "ideasthesia".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
>


None of this as I understand it has anything to do with the concept of 
"embodied experience." Some people are using that phrase as a buzzword 
for virtual environments in which sensorimotor technology is used to 
provoke the sensation of feeling or smell or hearing. That's not 
really synesthesia because something mechanical is actually triggering 
these perceptions.

>
In the case of your perception of Rama levitating up on a stage there 
must have been something chemical or mechanical triggering your 
perceptions - /such as LSD or smoke and mirrors./ It's not complicated.

>




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My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring 
to synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for 
that. THX in advance...




Re: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/29/2014 4:38 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring 
to synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for 
that. THX in advance...



>
A  "constructed character of knowing"?


Re: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Card, I don't know what your sister is into, but it doesn't sound to me as if 
either of you understands what synesthesia is. That's what happens when 
information perceived by one sense triggers a simultaneous perception in 
another, unrelated sense but with no direct input that could cause this second 
sensory perception. For example, you look at a painting and it makes you taste 
something. 


None of this as I understand it has anything to do with the concept of 
"embodied experience." Some people are using that phrase as a buzzword for 
virtual environments in which sensorimotor technology is used to provoke the 
sensation of feeling or smell or hearing. That's not really synesthesia because 
something mechanical is actually triggering these perceptions. 





 From: "cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 11:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?
 


  
My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring to 
synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for that. THX 
in advance...

[FairfieldLife] "Embodied experience"?

2014-08-29 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My sister is using the expression "embodied experience" in referring to 
synesthetic experiences
of visual arts. Is it OK, or could there be a better expression for that. THX 
in advance...