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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : --- wrote : More than 9.3 million cows were used to produce milk in the United States in 2008, and more than 2.5 million dairy cows were slaughtered for meat. Cows used by the dairy industry are intensively confined, continually impregnated, and bred for high milk production with little concern for their well-being. Far from being the “happy cows” the industry makes them out to be, these typically playful, nurturing animals endure immense suffering on factory farms. Like all mammals, dairy cows must be impregnated in order to produce milk. Cows in the dairy industry spend their lives in a constant cycle of impregnation, birth, and milking with just a few short months of rest between pregnancies. Nearly all cows used for dairy in the U.S. are eventually slaughtered for human consumption. At an average of less than 5 years of age, exhausted cows are considered “spent” and sent to slaughter, and millions of them are eaten by Americans as hamburger. In a natural setting, a cow can live more than 20 years. Usually just within hours of birth, calves are taken away from their mothers. Calves can become so distressed from separation that they become sick, lose weight from not eating, and cry so much that their throats become raw. Because male calves will not grow up to produce milk, they are considered of little value to the dairy farmer and are sold for meat. Millions of these calves are taken away to be raised for beef. Hundreds of thousands of other male calves born into the dairy industry are raised for veal. Many people consider veal to be cruel, but they don’t realize that veal production is a product of the dairy industry. In the vast majority of dairy operations in the U.S., cows spend their lives indoors, typically on hard, abrasive concrete floors, frequently connected to a milking apparatus. In 2007, the average cow in the dairy industry was forced to produce more than 20,000 lbs. of milk in one year — more than double the milk produced 40 years before. Breeding cows for this unnaturally high level of milk production, combined with damage caused to the udders by milking machines, contributes to high levels of mastitis, a very common and very painful swelling of glands of the udder. In the name of increased milk production and profit, some dairy cows are repeatedly injected with bovine growth hormone, a genetically-engineered hormone that has been shown to increase the risk of health problems like mastitis and lameness. Arguing that it improves hygiene, dairy producers cut off cows’ tails, called “tail docking,” either by placing a tight rubber ring around the tail until it falls off or by cutting it off with a sharp instrument. Each method causes chronic pain. Cows use their tail to swish away flies and can suffer immensely during fly season. Investigations have found that cows who collapse because they are too sick or injured to walk or stand, known as “downers” by the industry, are routinely prodded, dragged, and pushed around slaughter facilities. Cows Used for Meat In 2010, 34.2 million cattle were slaughtered for beef in the United States. Often beginning their short lives on rangeland, calves are soon separated from their nurturing mothers and endure a series of painful mutilations. Before they are a year old, young calves endure a long and stressful journey to a feedlot, where they are fattened on an unnatural diet until they reach “market weight” and are sent to slaughter. After being taken from their mother, calves’ cries can be so intense that their throats become irritated. Calves raised for beef may be subject to a number of painful mutilations, including dehorning, castration, and branding. Even though each of these procedures is known to cause fear and pain, pain relief is rarely provided. Because it is thought to improve meat quality and tenderness, male calves are castrated at a young age. Methods include removing testicles surgically with a scalpel, crushing spermatic cords with a clamp, and constricting blood flow to the scrotum until testicles die and fall off. Each method is known to cause pain that can last for days. Cattle in the U.S. are often branded by having an iron hotter than 950 °F pressed into their skin for several seconds. This is done so that beef producers can identify cattle and claim ownership. Between 6 months and a year of age, cattle are moved from pasture to feedlots to be fattened for slaughter. Calves gain weight on an unnatural diet and reach “market weight” of 1,200 pounds in just 6 months. The majority of cattle are fattened in feedlots in just four U.S. states. Since calves are born all over the country, they often endure long and stressful trips from their place of birth to these states without food, water, or protection from the elements Once they reach “market weight,” cattle in the be
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I eat beef, but I only buy grass-fed beef. I don't eat factory farmed beef except on the rare occasions that I eat out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks for this post Michael. I don't know how many people at FFL eat cows but they need to know this. And they need to know the cost of dairy in terms of lives. I don't eat cows. I eat organic dairy but it is dairy nevertheless and that means I am ingesting a milk product nature intended for a baby cow. That baby cow is being denied that milk so that I, a fully grown adult mammal, can have ice cream, milk on my cereal or yoghurt. It would appear I am being very selfish and uncaring in doing so.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
I don't know how this info applies or if it applies to Radiance Dairy. I am sure the cattle are happier in that setting than in most dairies, but if the cows have to stay preggers and if the calves are sold to veal or other beef producersseems like its one of those things the organic dairy industry glosses over. On Mon, 4/28/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 28, 2014, 4:13 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : More than 9.3 million cows were used to produce milk in the United States in 2008, and more than 2.5 million dairy cows were slaughtered for meat. Cows used by the dairy industry are intensively confined, continually impregnated, and bred for high milk production with little concern for their well-being. Far from being the “happy cows” the industry makes them out to be, these typically playful, nurturing animals endure immense suffering on factory farms. Like all mammals, dairy cows must be impregnated in order to produce milk. Cows in the dairy industry spend their lives in a constant cycle of impregnation, birth, and milking with just a few short months of rest between pregnancies. Nearly all cows used for dairy in the U.S. are eventually slaughtered for human consumption. At an average of less than 5 years of age, exhausted cows are considered “spent” and sent to slaughter, and millions of them are eaten by Americans as hamburger. In a natural setting, a cow can live more than 20 years. Usually just within hours of birth, calves are taken away from their mothers. Calves can become so distressed from separation that they become sick, lose weight from not eating, and cry so much that their throats become raw. Because male calves will not grow up to produce milk, they are considered of little value to the dairy farmer and are sold for meat. Millions of these calves are taken away to be raised for beef. Hundreds of thousands of other male calves born into the dairy industry are raised for veal. Many people consider veal to be cruel, but they don’t realize that veal production is a product of the dairy industry. In the vast majority of dairy operations in the U.S., cows spend their lives indoors, typically on hard, abrasive concrete floors, frequently connected to a milking apparatus. In 2007, the average cow in the dairy industry was forced to produce more than 20,000 lbs. of milk in one year — more than double the milk produced 40 years before. Breeding cows for this unnaturally high level of milk production, combined with damage caused to the udders by milking machines, contributes to high levels of mastitis, a very common and very painful swelling of glands of the udder. In the name of increased milk production and profit, some dairy cows are repeatedly injected with bovine growth hormone, a genetically-engineered hormone that has been shown to increase the risk of health problems like mastitis and lameness. Arguing that it improves hygiene, dairy producers cut off cows’ tails, called “tail docking,” either by placing a tight rubber ring around the tail until it falls off or by cutting it off with a sharp instrument. Each method causes chronic pain. Cows use their tail to swish away flies and can suffer immensely during fly season. Investigations have found that cows who collapse because they are too sick or injured to walk or stand, known as “downers” by the industry, are routinely prodded, dragged, and pushed around slaughter facilities. Cows Used for Meat In 2010, 34.2 million cattle were slaughtered for beef in the United States. Often beginning their short lives on rangeland, calves are soon separated from their nurturing mothers and endure a series of painful mutilations. Before they are a year old, young calves endure a long and stressful journey to a feedlot, where they are fattened on an unnatural diet until they reach “market weight” and are sent to slaughter. After being taken from their mother, calves’ cries can be so intense that their throats become irritated. Calves raised for beef may be subject to a number of painful mutilations, including dehorning, castration, and branding. Even though each of these procedures is known to cause fear and pain, pain relief is rarely provided. Because it is thought to improve meat quality and tenderness, male calves are castrated at a young age. Methods include removing testicles surgically with a scalpel, crushing spermatic cords with a clamp, and constricting blood flow to the scrotum until testicles die and fall off. Each method is known to cause pain that can last for days. Cattle in the U.S. are often branded by having an
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
--- wrote : More than 9.3 million cows were used to produce milk in the United States in 2008, and more than 2.5 million dairy cows were slaughtered for meat. Cows used by the dairy industry are intensively confined, continually impregnated, and bred for high milk production with little concern for their well-being. Far from being the “happy cows” the industry makes them out to be, these typically playful, nurturing animals endure immense suffering on factory farms. Like all mammals, dairy cows must be impregnated in order to produce milk. Cows in the dairy industry spend their lives in a constant cycle of impregnation, birth, and milking with just a few short months of rest between pregnancies. Nearly all cows used for dairy in the U.S. are eventually slaughtered for human consumption. At an average of less than 5 years of age, exhausted cows are considered “spent” and sent to slaughter, and millions of them are eaten by Americans as hamburger. In a natural setting, a cow can live more than 20 years. Usually just within hours of birth, calves are taken away from their mothers. Calves can become so distressed from separation that they become sick, lose weight from not eating, and cry so much that their throats become raw. Because male calves will not grow up to produce milk, they are considered of little value to the dairy farmer and are sold for meat. Millions of these calves are taken away to be raised for beef. Hundreds of thousands of other male calves born into the dairy industry are raised for veal. Many people consider veal to be cruel, but they don’t realize that veal production is a product of the dairy industry. In the vast majority of dairy operations in the U.S., cows spend their lives indoors, typically on hard, abrasive concrete floors, frequently connected to a milking apparatus. In 2007, the average cow in the dairy industry was forced to produce more than 20,000 lbs. of milk in one year — more than double the milk produced 40 years before. Breeding cows for this unnaturally high level of milk production, combined with damage caused to the udders by milking machines, contributes to high levels of mastitis, a very common and very painful swelling of glands of the udder. In the name of increased milk production and profit, some dairy cows are repeatedly injected with bovine growth hormone, a genetically-engineered hormone that has been shown to increase the risk of health problems like mastitis and lameness. Arguing that it improves hygiene, dairy producers cut off cows’ tails, called “tail docking,” either by placing a tight rubber ring around the tail until it falls off or by cutting it off with a sharp instrument. Each method causes chronic pain. Cows use their tail to swish away flies and can suffer immensely during fly season. Investigations have found that cows who collapse because they are too sick or injured to walk or stand, known as “downers” by the industry, are routinely prodded, dragged, and pushed around slaughter facilities. Cows Used for Meat In 2010, 34.2 million cattle were slaughtered for beef in the United States. Often beginning their short lives on rangeland, calves are soon separated from their nurturing mothers and endure a series of painful mutilations. Before they are a year old, young calves endure a long and stressful journey to a feedlot, where they are fattened on an unnatural diet until they reach “market weight” and are sent to slaughter. After being taken from their mother, calves’ cries can be so intense that their throats become irritated. Calves raised for beef may be subject to a number of painful mutilations, including dehorning, castration, and branding. Even though each of these procedures is known to cause fear and pain, pain relief is rarely provided. Because it is thought to improve meat quality and tenderness, male calves are castrated at a young age. Methods include removing testicles surgically with a scalpel, crushing spermatic cords with a clamp, and constricting blood flow to the scrotum until testicles die and fall off. Each method is known to cause pain that can last for days. Cattle in the U.S. are often branded by having an iron hotter than 950 °F pressed into their skin for several seconds. This is done so that beef producers can identify cattle and claim ownership. Between 6 months and a year of age, cattle are moved from pasture to feedlots to be fattened for slaughter. Calves gain weight on an unnatural diet and reach “market weight” of 1,200 pounds in just 6 months. The majority of cattle are fattened in feedlots in just four U.S. states. Since calves are born all over the country, they often endure long and stressful trips from their place of birth to these states without food, water, or protection from the elements Once they reach “market weight,” cattle in the beef industry are trucked to slaughter. The Humane Me
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : More than 9.3 million cows were used to produce milk in the United States in 2008, and more than 2.5 million dairy cows were slaughtered for meat. Cows used by the dairy industry are intensively confined, continually impregnated, and bred for high milk production with little concern for their well-being. Far from being the “happy cows” the industry makes them out to be, these typically playful, nurturing animals endure immense suffering on factory farms. Like all mammals, dairy cows must be impregnated in order to produce milk. Cows in the dairy industry spend their lives in a constant cycle of impregnation, birth, and milking with just a few short months of rest between pregnancies. Nearly all cows used for dairy in the U.S. are eventually slaughtered for human consumption. At an average of less than 5 years of age, exhausted cows are considered “spent” and sent to slaughter, and millions of them are eaten by Americans as hamburger. In a natural setting, a cow can live more than 20 years. Usually just within hours of birth, calves are taken away from their mothers. Calves can become so distressed from separation that they become sick, lose weight from not eating, and cry so much that their throats become raw. Because male calves will not grow up to produce milk, they are considered of little value to the dairy farmer and are sold for meat. Millions of these calves are taken away to be raised for beef. Hundreds of thousands of other male calves born into the dairy industry are raised for veal. Many people consider veal to be cruel, but they don’t realize that veal production is a product of the dairy industry. In the vast majority of dairy operations in the U.S., cows spend their lives indoors, typically on hard, abrasive concrete floors, frequently connected to a milking apparatus. In 2007, the average cow in the dairy industry was forced to produce more than 20,000 lbs. of milk in one year — more than double the milk produced 40 years before. Breeding cows for this unnaturally high level of milk production, combined with damage caused to the udders by milking machines, contributes to high levels of mastitis, a very common and very painful swelling of glands of the udder. In the name of increased milk production and profit, some dairy cows are repeatedly injected with bovine growth hormone, a genetically-engineered hormone that has been shown to increase the risk of health problems like mastitis and lameness. Arguing that it improves hygiene, dairy producers cut off cows’ tails, called “tail docking,” either by placing a tight rubber ring around the tail until it falls off or by cutting it off with a sharp instrument. Each method causes chronic pain. Cows use their tail to swish away flies and can suffer immensely during fly season. Investigations have found that cows who collapse because they are too sick or injured to walk or stand, known as “downers” by the industry, are routinely prodded, dragged, and pushed around slaughter facilities. Cows Used for Meat In 2010, 34.2 million cattle were slaughtered for beef in the United States. Often beginning their short lives on rangeland, calves are soon separated from their nurturing mothers and endure a series of painful mutilations. Before they are a year old, young calves endure a long and stressful journey to a feedlot, where they are fattened on an unnatural diet until they reach “market weight” and are sent to slaughter. After being taken from their mother, calves’ cries can be so intense that their throats become irritated. Calves raised for beef may be subject to a number of painful mutilations, including dehorning, castration, and branding. Even though each of these procedures is known to cause fear and pain, pain relief is rarely provided. Because it is thought to improve meat quality and tenderness, male calves are castrated at a young age. Methods include removing testicles surgically with a scalpel, crushing spermatic cords with a clamp, and constricting blood flow to the scrotum until testicles die and fall off. Each method is known to cause pain that can last for days. Cattle in the U.S. are often branded by having an iron hotter than 950 °F pressed into their skin for several seconds. This is done so that beef producers can identify cattle and claim ownership. Between 6 months and a year of age, cattle are moved from pasture to feedlots to be fattened for slaughter. Calves gain weight on an unnatural diet and reach “market weight” of 1,200 pounds in just 6 months. The majority of cattle are fattened in feedlots in just four U.S. states. Since calves are born all over the country, they often endure long and stressful trips from their place of birth to these states without food, water, or protection from the elements Once they reach “market weight,” cattle in the beef industry are truck
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seems like there's a limited number of things that can be done with bulls. What happens to male buffalo, for example? They can't each have their own herd of females, and you can't have a herd of males, can you? They'd kill each other. With horses the younger or maturing males simply coexist with the rest of the herd and once in a while decide to duke it out with various other lesser males. Basically, the head stallion breeds the mares and the less dominant ones simply remain as residents. Occasionally if they get too uppity they are driven out or leave of their own volition and sometimes they remain solitary or occasionally come back to gather together some mares to create their own harem if they can fight the head stallion and win, even momentarily. Ultimately, the most dominant member of the herd is a mare. She is the alpha mare and will tell the head stallion when to fix the roof or wash the car, especially on weekends when he is free after having fought off the whippersnapper teenagers and finished breeding the willing mares who are in season. I'm serious; I really don't know. Something in nature must keep down the number of males that reach maturity, at least of this general type of critter, no? I never thought about it before. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It would make sense to keep a bull or two around for breeding purposes. But, it is highly unlikely that they keep all males. Unlike Jersey cows, which tend to be sweet and docile, Jersey bulls are considered the least docile of all cattle breeds. As steers, they are apparently suitable as draft animals, albeit not the largest and strongest breed for that task. But, can cutting off a bull's balls and enslaving it as a draft animal truly be considered ahimsa? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
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requires that livestock be rendered insensible to pain before shackling and slaughter; however, investigations have found that some animals are still conscious when they are shackled and have their throats cut. On Mon, 4/28/14, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 28, 2014 It would make sense to keep a bull or two around for breeding purposes. But, it is highly unlikely that they keep all males. Unlike Jersey cows, which tend to be sweet and docile, Jersey bulls are considered the least docile of all cattle breeds. As steers, they are apparently suitable as draft animals, albeit not the largest and strongest breed for that task. But, can cutting off a bull's balls and enslaving it as a draft animal truly be considered ahimsa? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji! #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127 -- #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp #yiv8900515127hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp #yiv8900515127ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp .yiv8900515127ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp .yiv8900515127ad p { margin:0;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-mkp .yiv8900515127ad a { color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-sponsor #yiv8900515127ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-sponsor #yiv8900515127ygrp-lc #yiv8900515127hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127ygrp-sponsor #yiv8900515127ygrp-lc .yiv8900515127ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity span { font-weight:700;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #yiv8900515127 #yiv8900515127activity span .yiv8900515127underline { text-decoration:underline;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv8900515127 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #yiv8900515127 .yiv8900515127b
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
Seems like there's a limited number of things that can be done with bulls. What happens to male buffalo, for example? They can't each have their own herd of females, and you can't have a herd of males, can you? They'd kill each other. I'm serious; I really don't know. Something in nature must keep down the number of males that reach maturity, at least of this general type of critter, no? I never thought about it before. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It would make sense to keep a bull or two around for breeding purposes. But, it is highly unlikely that they keep all males. Unlike Jersey cows, which tend to be sweet and docile, Jersey bulls are considered the least docile of all cattle breeds. As steers, they are apparently suitable as draft animals, albeit not the largest and strongest breed for that task. But, can cutting off a bull's balls and enslaving it as a draft animal truly be considered ahimsa? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
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It would make sense to keep a bull or two around for breeding purposes. But, it is highly unlikely that they keep all males. Unlike Jersey cows, which tend to be sweet and docile, Jersey bulls are considered the least docile of all cattle breeds. As steers, they are apparently suitable as draft animals, albeit not the largest and strongest breed for that task. But, can cutting off a bull's balls and enslaving it as a draft animal truly be considered ahimsa? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
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Not quite true, Alex. One of the males is featured here: http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html http://www.universalfields.org/tala_ram.html Doesn't sound like he's going to end up as veal chops, but perhaps he's the exception. At any rate, the text sounds very respectful and protective of the males. True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
True, which is why unwanted male dairy calves often end up slaughtered young, as veal. It's a huge glaring omission that the website below is totally focused on the cows, with no mention of the males, which make up 50% of the calves born every year. Radiance Dairy in Fairfield operates under basically the same principles, and the owner has no shortage of people who want to buy his male calves, which ultimately end up as little wrapped packages of meat in a freezer. Folks can go on and on all they like about the Vedicness and Sattvicness of milk, but the reality is that with the exception of a few very rare ahimsa dairies, milk production has slaughtered animals as a by-product. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, sri...@ymail.com mailto:sri...@ymail.com wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
Of course milk cows are not beef cattle. Folks here should read Swami Bhaskarananda's "The Essentials of Hinduism" where he writes about that. It heard tales of him taking a slice of roast beef at a Vedanta Society potluck and putting it on an anemic looking disciple's plate. I met him in the 1970s when he was the new Swami at the Seattle Vedanta Center where the late Bobby Warren took me because "it was a good place to get incense." On 04/27/2014 09:25 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!
[FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth for all Mankind
A beautiful key to creating Heaven on Earth for all mankind, the proper treatment of the cows http://www.universalfields.org/index.html http://www.universalfields.org/index.html Jai Jai Jai Jai Jai Maharishi-ji!