Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life
Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Sorry, not Fresno...Chico. All those asswipe inland California towns blur together for me. Plus, if you've seen one trailer trash park, you've pretty much seen them all. :-) :-) :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Yep, all that movie watching has sure put you in touch with reality, Barry. LOL - Please, have a seat, here in front of this screen, and dissolve your mind a little more...seems to be about the consistency of silly putty, now. What is on, next? Perhaps a scintillating chapter of your kiddie show, Game of Drones?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Just realizing you were about 400 miles off?? Better watch more TV, Barry, as it is clear that reality is NOT your strong suit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sorry, not Fresno...Chico. All those asswipe inland California towns blur together for me. Plus, if you've seen one trailer trash park, you've pretty much seen them all. :-) :-) :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Barry Wright - World traveler. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sorry, not Fresno...Chico. All those asswipe inland California towns blur together for me. Plus, if you've seen one trailer trash park, you've pretty much seen them all. :-) :-) :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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Reality is not *my* strong suit? When are you going to tell us more stories about the fascinating and wonderful things you do every day on this several-acre property that you don't own? :-) :-) :-) Am I incorrect in suggesting that you have the same fantasy relationship with your claimed enlightenment status that you have with this supposed new home of yours? Hi...I'm Jim Flanegin...if I can imagine it's true in my mind, then it's true. Is this ability to fantasize and actually believe it what made it possible for you to pretend to be a woman on this forum for several months? :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Just realizing you were about 400 miles off?? Better watch more TV, Barry, as it is clear that reality is NOT your strong suit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sorry, not Fresno...Chico. All those asswipe inland California towns blur together for me. Plus, if you've seen one trailer trash park, you've pretty much seen them all. :-) :-) :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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You call this reality, Barry?? I don't. I am curious, though, what dreams you have, on *your* horizon, Barry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And pretending to be a woman here on FFL for several months? What exactly were you trying to materialize with that desire and plan? Did you succeed in becoming female? :-) :-) :-)
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You enjoy running away - into some past of someone, real or imagined, or into your TV stories, but I want to know about your future - what does it hold for you, Barry? What are your desires? What are some big things you want to accomplish, next, or wish you had? Europe seems like an awfully long way to travel, simply to watch the television. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You call this reality, Barry?? I don't. I am curious, though, what dreams you have, on *your* horizon, Barry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And pretending to be a woman here on FFL for several months? What exactly were you trying to materialize with that desire and plan? Did you succeed in becoming female? :-) :-) :-)
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In other words, Mr. I'm SO enlightened refuses to discuss why *HE* pretended to be a woman on Fairfield Life for several months, and instead is trying to do what he has done every time the subject has come up -- distract attention away from it, and hope that people will forget it was ever mentioned. Sure doesn't sound very enlightened to me. It sounds, in fact, like a pretty strong form of running away. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life You enjoy running away - into some past of someone, real or imagined, or into your TV stories, but I want to know aboutyour future - what does it hold for you, Barry? What are your desires? What are some big things you want to accomplish, next, or wish you had? Europe seems like an awfully long way to travel, simply to watch the television. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You call this reality, Barry?? I don't. I am curious, though, what dreams you have, on *your* horizon, Barry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And pretending to be a woman here on FFL for several months? What exactly were you trying to materialize with that desire and plan? Did you succeed in becoming female? :-) :-) :-)
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Wow, so fascinated with me, all of a sudden, Barry. It is really too bad that Judy left, and I know that you miss her deeply, but I have *no desire* to make you my bitch, like she did, no matter how much you miss it. Sorry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In other words, Mr. I'm SO enlightened refuses to discuss why *HE* pretended to be a woman on Fairfield Life for several months, and instead is trying to do what he has done every time the subject has come up -- distract attention away from it, and hope that people will forget it was ever mentioned. Sure doesn't sound very enlightened to me. It sounds, in fact, like a pretty strong form of running away. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life You enjoy running away - into some past of someone, real or imagined, or into your TV stories, but I want to know about your future - what does it hold for you, Barry? What are your desires? What are some big things you want to accomplish, next, or wish you had? Europe seems like an awfully long way to travel, simply to watch the television. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You call this reality, Barry?? I don't. I am curious, though, what dreams you have, on *your* horizon, Barry? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : And pretending to be a woman here on FFL for several months? What exactly were you trying to materialize with that desire and plan? Did you succeed in becoming female? :-) :-) :-)
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) And that makes them more interesting? You couldn't pay me to watch that much TV, no way. But then, you are one that is easily bought, as you have already testified regarding the lurking reporters. LOL As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. Funny guy, bawee. Your envy is showing here. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. Well, at least you probably own the computer, if that's at all relevant. Quaint and artist are relative, but if you believe it to be so then that is all that matters. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. Your bitterness is showing bawee. Jim apparently has disposable income, a wife and family that love him, plans for the future that don't include living on the internet and/or watching a flat screen full of TV characters and who is creative in all sorts of ways you can only be critical about. You are extremely transparent. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) I would suggest you accept the fact that while Europe is an amazing place Europe is not you, you simply reside there. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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On 7/14/2014 8:59 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I would estimate, from bawee's never-ending talk about watching an entire series in a day or having seen this or that movie that the guy averages 4-5 hours a day in front of the boob tube and the same in front of a computer. Now that guy is in condition. Who says Barry has a boob tube? Maybe he watches movies and videos on his laptop up in his bedroom on his bed. You don't think Barry is laying around in the living room hogging the TV set all the time do you? But, I wouldn't put it past him - he is kind of pushy. Go figure.
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So, it's all about Jim. Go figure. On 7/15/2014 4:20 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Any reference to reality, coming from Jim Flanegin, kinda begs for a comment. I am weak...I shall supply one. :-) :-) :-) I fully cop to watching a lot of TV shows and movies. On the other hand, I then often get *paid* for writing reviews of them. Jimbo doesn't get paid for creating the things he laughably calls music. :-) As for reality, I would remind people of Jim waxing rhapsodic the other day in conversations I saw quoted by other people about all the things he does on his new property -- building houses, creating tableaus of dummies wearing costumes, etc. No problem, as fantasies go, but it IS worth pointing out that it's a fantasy. He doesn't own this property...at this point it's ALL in his mind. When I get up from my computer, walk to the door, and walk half a block to sit in a quaint, canal-side cafe to spend some time with artist friends, I'm actually *in* a quaint canal-side cafe with artist friends. When Jim gets up from the computer after writing about all the things he does at his new house, when he walks to the door and steps outside, he's in a trailer park in Fresno. I would suggest that his fantasies about being enlightened have a similar relationship to reality as his fantasies about where he lives. :-) :-) :-) *From:* fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Yep - I figure between work and keeping up with the droneses, he stares into a screen about 14 hours a day, on average - Kind of a zombie, imo. Yeah, *he* is the one deconditioning *us* - lol. He was acting the other day as if his fantasy characters were real - I am not sure he knows the difference between the shows he immerses himself in, and what I personally call, reality. Since you appear quite taken with him, I will let you make up your own mind about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/14/2014 8:59 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I would estimate, from bawee's never-ending talk about watching an entire series in a day or having seen this or that movie that the guy averages 4-5 hours a day in front of the boob tube and the same in front of a computer. Now that guy is in condition. Who says Barry has a boob tube? Maybe he watches movies and videos on his laptop up in his bedroom on his bed. You don't think Barry is laying around in the living room hogging the TV set all the time do you? But, I wouldn't put it past him - he is kind of pushy. Go figure. I'd say he'd rather call it something that implies he's getting some.
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This morning, while making a moderate attempt at exercise, I was reading a book by James Swartz (Barry warning–too many words). I ended up reading a chapter section entitled 'Pseudo-Enlightenment or Enlightenment Sickness', which seems to have some relevance to the discussion between turquoisebee and fleetwood_macandcheese concerning enlightenment. I was familiar with such concepts in the Zen tradition, and was unaware that the Indian tradition of Vedanta also deals with the matter. I have edited a number of quotes from this section to reduce the number of words. I think these ideas from the tradition of Vedanta are good to be aware of: PSEUDO-ENLIGHTENMENT OR ENLIGHTENMENT SICKNESS Usually a strong sense of goodwill toward everyone arises at this time, and you almost invariably feel that you should share what you know with others. But before you set out to do so, it is wise to double check to see if you are suffering the disease of enlightenment. It is similar to enlightenment and difficult for the sufferer to diagnose, although it is a well known malady. It should be treated quickly before it becomes a chronic condition. If you formulate your enlightenment as a grand happening and turn it into a big story, you have the enlightenment disease. In reality, you should be happy to keep your mouth shut because you did not get something you did not have all along. Awareness is your nature. By making a fuss about it, you are only calling attention to a long stay in ignorance, not to a special accomplishment. If you hear yourself telling others that you are awakened or enlightened or 'cooked', you have enlightenment sickness. Awakening is not enlightenment, because the self never slept. You are the fire that cooks, not the cooked food. Awakening means that some kind of insight or mystical experience happened, which you define as enlightenment. Enlightenment cancels the ego, so there is no one left to claim he or she is presently awakened. Enlightenment entails no duties or responsibilities. It is not an ideal that demands a particular kind of behavior. Enlightenment is not an identity, nor is it a career opportunity. [Enlightenment sickness] can be cured with a strong dose of honest self inquiry, a dollop of humility and a simple life away from the spotlight. But the belief that you can have your cake and eat it too is evidence of an unpurified understanding. Little by little, in the most innocent and imperceptible way, you will re-identify with the body-mind entity and have to start over again. If your enlightenment motivates ambitious undertakings, know that you have enlightenment sickness, not enlightenment. Ambition and enlightenment are like oil and water. An enlightened person understands that there is nothing personal about life, that the idea that I am an 'I' who does certain actions and to whom certain things belong, is purely fiction. Having said all that, your enlightenment is only as good as you are. If you want to evaluate yourself or others, enlightenment is a very poor standard, in so far as there are many saintly unenlightened individuals and many enlightened scoundrels. There are two great traditions under the umbrella of Vedic culture: Yoga and Vedanta — the science of self inquiry. Yoga deals with the experiential side of spiritual life and is for the purpose of purifying the mind. It is not a valid means for self knowledge, because its stated aim is a particular type of experience called samadhi. Many have epiphanies ... But almost no one becomes enlightened during a particular experience, because the meaning of the experience or the significance of the one to whom the experience is occurring is not assimilated. The question 'when will the realization of the self be gained' is a typically yogic question. Yoga is for doers, achievers. Vedanta, the science of self inquiry, contends that the self cannot be gained at some time in the future, as a result of action. It is a path of understanding and employs a language of identity. Enlightenment is knowledge, not experience of anything. People erroneously believe that enlightenment is gaining some permanent incredible experience of the self. [Enlightenment] means that from this point on, you are no longer embodied. The bodies are in the self but the self is not in the bodies. This is why it is called liberation.
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All I can say to this post is Jai guru common sense and honesty. Thanks Anartaxius. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life This morning, while making a moderate attempt at exercise, I was reading a book by James Swartz (Barry warning–too many words). I ended up reading a chapter section entitled 'Pseudo-Enlightenment or Enlightenment Sickness', which seems to have some relevance to the discussion between turquoisebee and fleetwood_macandcheese concerning enlightenment. I was familiar with such concepts in the Zen tradition, and was unaware that the Indian tradition of Vedanta also deals with the matter. I have edited a number of quotes from this section to reduce the number of words. I think these ideas from the tradition of Vedanta are good to be aware of: PSEUDO-ENLIGHTENMENT OR ENLIGHTENMENT SICKNESS Usually a strong sense of goodwill toward everyone arises at this time, and you almost invariably feel that you should share what you know with others. But before you set out to do so, it is wise to double check to see if you are suffering the disease of enlightenment. It is similar to enlightenment and difficult for the sufferer to diagnose, although it is a well known malady. It should be treated quickly before it becomes a chronic condition. If you formulate your enlightenment as a grand happening and turn it into a big story, you have the enlightenment disease. In reality, you should be happy to keep your mouth shut because you did not get something you did not have all along. Awareness is your nature. By making a fuss about it, you are only calling attention to a long stay in ignorance, not to a special accomplishment. If you hear yourself telling others that you are awakened or enlightened or 'cooked', you have enlightenment sickness. Awakening is not enlightenment, because the self never slept. You are the fire that cooks, not the cooked food. Awakening means that some kind of insight or mystical experience happened, which you define as enlightenment. Enlightenment cancels the ego, so there is no one left to claim he or she is presently awakened. Enlightenment entails no duties or responsibilities. It is not an ideal that demands a particular kind of behavior. Enlightenment is not an identity, nor is it a career opportunity. [Enlightenment sickness] can be cured with a strong dose of honest self inquiry, a dollop of humility and a simple life away from the spotlight. But the belief that you can have your cake and eat it too is evidence of an unpurified understanding. Little by little, in the most innocent and imperceptible way, you will re-identify with the body-mind entity and have to start over again. If your enlightenment motivates ambitious undertakings, know that you have enlightenment sickness, not enlightenment. Ambition and enlightenment are like oil and water. An enlightened person understands that there is nothing personal about life, that the idea that I am an 'I' who does certain actions and to whom certain things belong, is purely fiction. Having said all that, your enlightenment is only as good as you are. If you want to evaluate yourself or others, enlightenment is a very poor standard, in so far as there are many saintly unenlightened individuals and many enlightened scoundrels. There are two great traditions under the umbrella of Vedic culture: Yoga and Vedanta — the science of self inquiry. Yoga deals with the experiential side of spiritual life and is for the purpose of purifying the mind. It is not a valid means for self knowledge, because its stated aim is a particular type of experience called samadhi. Many have epiphanies ... But almost no one becomes enlightened during a particular experience, because the meaning of the experience or the significance of the one to whom the experience is occurring is not assimilated. The question 'when will the realization of the self be gained' is a typically yogic question. Yoga is for doers, achievers. Vedanta, the science of self inquiry, contends that the self cannot be gained at some time in the future, as a result of action. It is a path of understanding and employs a language of identity. Enlightenment is knowledge, not experience of anything. People erroneously believe that enlightenment is gaining some permanent incredible experience of the self. [Enlightenment] means that from this point on, you are no longer embodied. The bodies are in the self but the self is not in the bodies. This is why it is called liberation.
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I appreciate the illusion of enlightenment, as with everything else. Yes, nothing ever happens. MMY called it, moving the clouds away from the sun. But, even sharing, and accepting, this illusion, with others, I find it helpful to share knowledge about what to do, to either enjoy more, or suffer less, in any avenue of life. Why should a discussion of one's spiritual experiences, and self evaluations, be somehow, off limits? That seems like a pretty precious way to treat this liberation. If it is truly liberation, it can handle it. Having this unspoken rule about never talking openly about one's enlightenment, seems almost superstitious, as if something darkly hinted at, will happen, if these things are discussed. After all, it is the one making the remark, who has to live with him, or herself - I like talking about it with other people, and making it personal - keeps it honest, and challenging. I have learned a great deal about enlightenment, and how we each express a different way of its unfolding, by sharing knowledge of it, with you, and others willing to discuss it. Last, although I write forcefully and dramatically sometimes, enjoying the illusion is all part of it - painting evocative pictures, on the mind-screens of others, to elicit responses, or not. Thanks for your contributions, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This morning, while making a moderate attempt at exercise, I was reading a book by James Swartz (Barry warning–too many words). I ended up reading a chapter section entitled 'Pseudo-Enlightenment or Enlightenment Sickness', which seems to have some relevance to the discussion between turquoisebee and fleetwood_macandcheese concerning enlightenment. I was familiar with such concepts in the Zen tradition, and was unaware that the Indian tradition of Vedanta also deals with the matter. I have edited a number of quotes from this section to reduce the number of words. I think these ideas from the tradition of Vedanta are good to be aware of: PSEUDO-ENLIGHTENMENT OR ENLIGHTENMENT SICKNESS Usually a strong sense of goodwill toward everyone arises at this time, and you almost invariably feel that you should share what you know with others. But before you set out to do so, it is wise to double check to see if you are suffering the disease of enlightenment. It is similar to enlightenment and difficult for the sufferer to diagnose, although it is a well known malady. It should be treated quickly before it becomes a chronic condition. If you formulate your enlightenment as a grand happening and turn it into a big story, you have the enlightenment disease. In reality, you should be happy to keep your mouth shut because you did not get something you did not have all along. Awareness is your nature. By making a fuss about it, you are only calling attention to a long stay in ignorance, not to a special accomplishment. If you hear yourself telling others that you are awakened or enlightened or 'cooked', you have enlightenment sickness. Awakening is not enlightenment, because the self never slept. You are the fire that cooks, not the cooked food. Awakening means that some kind of insight or mystical experience happened, which you define as enlightenment. Enlightenment cancels the ego, so there is no one left to claim he or she is presently awakened. Enlightenment entails no duties or responsibilities. It is not an ideal that demands a particular kind of behavior. Enlightenment is not an identity, nor is it a career opportunity. [Enlightenment sickness] can be cured with a strong dose of honest self inquiry, a dollop of humility and a simple life away from the spotlight. But the belief that you can have your cake and eat it too is evidence of an unpurified understanding. Little by little, in the most innocent and imperceptible way, you will re-identify with the body-mind entity and have to start over again. If your enlightenment motivates ambitious undertakings, know that you have enlightenment sickness, not enlightenment. Ambition and enlightenment are like oil and water. An enlightened person understands that there is nothing personal about life, that the idea that I am an 'I' who does certain actions and to whom certain things belong, is purely fiction. Having said all that, your enlightenment is only as good as you are. If you want to evaluate yourself or others, enlightenment is a very poor standard, in so far as there are many saintly unenlightened individuals and many enlightened scoundrels. There are two great traditions under the umbrella of Vedic culture: Yoga and Vedanta — the science of self inquiry. Yoga deals with the experiential side of spiritual life and is for the purpose of purifying the mind. It is not a valid means for self knowledge, because its stated aim is a particular type of experience called samadhi. Many have epiphanies ... But
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lurking reporters take note: Bawee's way of objectively commenting on a guy he doesn't like: An interesting exchange. On the one hand (ETT), an ego arguing that his enlightenment is superior to someone else's, completely oblivious to the fact that he's saying things like Silence is permanent 24/7 without allowing an iota of actual Silence to shine through the ego. It's just another exercise in Planet ME. Example below of bawee tolerating another guy who he thinks is 'A Ok' because this guy doesn't bother to call bawee on all his shit: On the other hand (Xeno), a pretty much egoless explanation of CC that avoids the trap of considering it his CC, or anyone else's. For him, the Silence has always been present, and shines through what he writes, because there is nothing standing in the way of it. I guess you lurking reporters have to take whatever stooge that you can get here because no one else would be willing to act the imbecile for your sociological studies. My advice would be to move to another forum where there might be better quality minds to choose from. Then again, you're probably just studying the freak of nature that is bawee under the guise of studying cultists.
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Its OK Ann - After an excruciating effort, I managed to get not one, but two actual iotas, of actual Silence, to shine through my ego. I am squeezing another one through the filter, as we speak - but it is like juicing *rocks*. Unfortunately, I have no photographic evidence of same, and hope someone, anyone, takes my word for it. Barry simply emanates Truth, and it is up to poor souls like me, to do our best to conform. Wish me luck, and a bucket of iotas!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lurking reporters take note: Bawee's way of objectively commenting on a guy he doesn't like: An interesting exchange. On the one hand (ETT), an ego arguing that his enlightenment is superior to someone else's, completely oblivious to the fact that he's saying things like Silence is permanent 24/7 without allowing an iota of actual Silence to shine through the ego. It's just another exercise in Planet ME. Example below of bawee tolerating another guy who he thinks is 'A Ok' because this guy doesn't bother to call bawee on all his shit: On the other hand (Xeno), a pretty much egoless explanation of CC that avoids the trap of considering it his CC, or anyone else's. For him, the Silence has always been present, and shines through what he writes, because there is nothing standing in the way of it. I guess you lurking reporters have to take whatever stooge that you can get here because no one else would be willing to act the imbecile for your sociological studies. My advice would be to move to another forum where there might be better quality minds to choose from. Then again, you're probably just studying the freak of nature that is bawee under the guise of studying cultists.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Its OK Ann - After an excruciating effort, I managed to get not one, but two actual iotas, of actual Silence, to shine through my ego. I am squeezing another one through the filter, as we speak - but it is like juicing *rocks*. Unfortunately, I have no photographic evidence of same, and hope someone, anyone, takes my word for it. Barry simply emanates Truth, and it is up to poor souls like me, to do our best to conform. Wish me luck, and a bucket of iotas!! Buckets of iotas I've got, do you prefer crushed or rolled? I love the image of juicing rocks, BTW. I'll give you the benefit of any doubt concerning your enlightenment just on that one phrase alone. Bottom, line though - you're funny, quick, no fool and you like to do lots of cool things. As a result I've got you on my 'A' list. Enlightenment would just be the maraschino on top (and you can make healthy maraschinos at home). http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lurking reporters take note: Bawee's way of objectively commenting on a guy he doesn't like: An interesting exchange. On the one hand (ETT), an ego arguing that his enlightenment is superior to someone else's, completely oblivious to the fact that he's saying things like Silence is permanent 24/7 without allowing an iota of actual Silence to shine through the ego. It's just another exercise in Planet ME. Example below of bawee tolerating another guy who he thinks is 'A Ok' because this guy doesn't bother to call bawee on all his shit: On the other hand (Xeno), a pretty much egoless explanation of CC that avoids the trap of considering it his CC, or anyone else's. For him, the Silence has always been present, and shines through what he writes, because there is nothing standing in the way of it. I guess you lurking reporters have to take whatever stooge that you can get here because no one else would be willing to act the imbecile for your sociological studies. My advice would be to move to another forum where there might be better quality minds to choose from. Then again, you're probably just studying the freak of nature that is bawee under the guise of studying cultists.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Its OK Ann - After an excruciating effort, I managed to get not one, but two actual iotas, of actual Silence, to shine through my ego. I am squeezing another one through the filter, as we speak - but it is like juicing *rocks*. Unfortunately, I have no photographic evidence of same, and hope someone, anyone, takes my word for it. Barry simply emanates Truth, and it is up to poor souls like me, to do our best to conform. Wish me luck, and a bucket of iotas!! Buckets of iotas I've got, do you prefer crushed or rolled? I love the image of juicing rocks, BTW. I'll give you the benefit of any doubt concerning your enlightenment just on that one phrase alone. Bottom, line though - you're funny, quick, no fool and you like to do lots of cool things. As a result I've got you on my 'A' list. Enlightenment would just be the maraschino on top (and you can make healthy maraschinos at home). http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// That link didn't work, try this: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ted-allen/real-maraschino-cherries-recipe.html http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ted-allen/real-maraschino-cherries-recipe.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lurking reporters take note: Bawee's way of objectively commenting on a guy he doesn't like: An interesting exchange. On the one hand (ETT), an ego arguing that his enlightenment is superior to someone else's, completely oblivious to the fact that he's saying things like Silence is permanent 24/7 without allowing an iota of actual Silence to shine through the ego. It's just another exercise in Planet ME. Example below of bawee tolerating another guy who he thinks is 'A Ok' because this guy doesn't bother to call bawee on all his shit: On the other hand (Xeno), a pretty much egoless explanation of CC that avoids the trap of considering it his CC, or anyone else's. For him, the Silence has always been present, and shines through what he writes, because there is nothing standing in the way of it. I guess you lurking reporters have to take whatever stooge that you can get here because no one else would be willing to act the imbecile for your sociological studies. My advice would be to move to another forum where there might be better quality minds to choose from. Then again, you're probably just studying the freak of nature that is bawee under the guise of studying cultists.
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Thank you - Yep, enlightenment to me, has to have lots of practical value, for me to entertain it. PS I got your attachment re: the iotas. I am thinking of renting a storage unit for them, though for now, using a friend's empty pool - thanks again! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Its OK Ann - After an excruciating effort, I managed to get not one, but two actual iotas, of actual Silence, to shine through my ego. I am squeezing another one through the filter, as we speak - but it is like juicing *rocks*. Unfortunately, I have no photographic evidence of same, and hope someone, anyone, takes my word for it. Barry simply emanates Truth, and it is up to poor souls like me, to do our best to conform. Wish me luck, and a bucket of iotas!! Buckets of iotas I've got, do you prefer crushed or rolled? I love the image of juicing rocks, BTW. I'll give you the benefit of any doubt concerning your enlightenment just on that one phrase alone. Bottom, line though - you're funny, quick, no fool and you like to do lots of cool things. As a result I've got you on my 'A' list. Enlightenment would just be the maraschino on top (and you can make healthy maraschinos at home). http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// http://www.care2.com/greenliving/homemade-maraschino-cherries.htmlhttp:// That link didn't work, try this: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ted-allen/real-maraschino-cherries-recipe.html http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ted-allen/real-maraschino-cherries-recipe.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lurking reporters take note: Bawee's way of objectively commenting on a guy he doesn't like: An interesting exchange. On the one hand (ETT), an ego arguing that his enlightenment is superior to someone else's, completely oblivious to the fact that he's saying things like Silence is permanent 24/7 without allowing an iota of actual Silence to shine through the ego. It's just another exercise in Planet ME. Example below of bawee tolerating another guy who he thinks is 'A Ok' because this guy doesn't bother to call bawee on all his shit: On the other hand (Xeno), a pretty much egoless explanation of CC that avoids the trap of considering it his CC, or anyone else's. For him, the Silence has always been present, and shines through what he writes, because there is nothing standing in the way of it. I guess you lurking reporters have to take whatever stooge that you can get here because no one else would be willing to act the imbecile for your sociological studies. My advice would be to move to another forum where there might be better quality minds to choose from. Then again, you're probably just studying the freak of nature that is bawee under the guise of studying cultists.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Getting out more often, is an expression. It means, basically, to get out of your head, and into your body. Not going to happen. You visceral guys map that onto those of us for whom it does not have much significance. Take advantage of the body while you've got one. Feel the ache, the sweat and the thrills that can course right through you. Once you're without one you'll wish you had. It was not a lifestyle endorsement, Xeno, except maybe for Barry, as he watches an awful lot of TV, for someone who is dedicated to deconditioning the rest of us. We all could benefit from deconditioning. So you know how many hours a day Barry watches TV? I would estimate, from bawee's never-ending talk about watching an entire series in a day or having seen this or that movie that the guy averages 4-5 hours a day in front of the boob tube and the same in front of a computer. Now that guy is in condition.
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His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah - so true. I like that MMY brought out his Vedic perspective on all this stuff, but I don't see enough value there, to chase it. Nor do I think that is why he spoke about it. Each Vedic tuning, on each domain of living, whether housing, health, astrology, or music, wasn't, imo, meant to become some absolute edict, or supreme way to live, on the way to the truth, or enlightenment. But, since he was always taken so seriously, all Maharishi had to do was comment on something, and his most ardent followers became rather severe about implementing it, whatever it was. The Vedic architecture houses I have seen pictures of, are pretty damned ugly, for starters - at best, completely unimaginative. I like integrating what I learned, and learn, from Maharishi into a full life; my life, vs. filling in a rather humdrum life, by focusing awkwardly, and a little too intensely, on what Maharishi said. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam Sri Suktam Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type
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Yes, he definitely succeeded there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah - so true. I like that MMY brought out his Vedic perspective on all this stuff, but I don't see enough value there, to chase it. Nor do I think that is why he spoke about it. Each Vedic tuning, on each domain of living, whether housing, health, astrology, or music, wasn't, imo, meant to become some absolute edict, or supreme way to live, on the way to the truth, or enlightenment. But, since he was always taken so seriously, all Maharishi had to do was comment on something, and his most ardent followers became rather severe about implementing it, whatever it was. The Vedic architecture houses I have seen pictures of, are pretty damned ugly, for starters - at best, completely unimaginative. I like integrating what I learned, and learn, from Maharishi into a full life; my life, vs. filling in a rather humdrum life, by focusing awkwardly, and a little too intensely, on what Maharishi said. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am
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All anyone had to do, was say, no, thank you. I did, plenty of times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah - so true. I like that MMY brought out his Vedic perspective on all this stuff, but I don't see enough value there, to chase it. Nor do I think that is why he spoke about it. Each Vedic tuning, on each domain of living, whether housing, health, astrology, or music, wasn't, imo, meant to become some absolute edict, or supreme way to live, on the way to the truth, or enlightenment. But, since he was always taken so seriously, all Maharishi had to do was comment on something, and his most ardent followers became rather severe about implementing it, whatever it was. The Vedic architecture houses I have seen pictures of, are pretty damned ugly, for starters - at best, completely unimaginative. I like integrating what I learned, and learn, from Maharishi into a full life; my life, vs. filling in a rather humdrum life, by focusing awkwardly, and a little too intensely, on what Maharishi said. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese
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This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. I am pretty sure the average investor or giver of charity to the Movement in aid of some project or other was pretty much thinking there was good karma to be had by doing so or simply that if the money did not go toward one particular thing it would go to another worthy cause. Of course, this does nothing to encourage honesty or accountability on the part of the Movement in order to let investors know what happened to their money because the whole thing is based on good will and the sometimes mistaken idea that those in power have only good intentions and are honest. This is never a good way to operate because it would definitely encourage theft and embezzlement by either those running things or MMY himself. People are people and that means they are usually not above dipping their hand into an anonymous pot of money. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. As we all know (I think and hope) there is no outward way to measure enlightenment. For any spiritual system to claim they have X amount of enlightened followers would be laughable. I rather applaud any movement that doesn't make a list of enlightened people. No one is going to believe the list anyway. I mean, it isn't like enlightened people glow purple or start spontaneously speaking in Hebrew so that at least we could spot them in a crowd. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me... MARFA — “Marfa is the weird that Austin wishes it still was,” said Tex Toler, the city's former tourism director. “These things exist in other hip towns, but in Marfa they exist in the middle of nowhere, in a place with amazing weather and incredible light.” In downtown Marfa, one might run into a MacArthur Fellow getting a trim at Quintana's Barbershop or a German art buff waiting for the Andy Warhol exhibit to open. Among its charms are the stately Paisano Hotel, a first-rate bookstore, its own public radio station, art galleries and studios, poetry readings and film festivals, and residency programs for artists and writers. Foundations abound, some the legacy of Judd, who in 1971 came to Marfa from New York. Before Judd died in 1994, he acquired a lot of Marfa real estate and created large permanent art displays 'Quirky Marfa feels growing pains' http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Quirky-Marfa-feels-growing-pains-5617718.php Humble materials such as metals, industrial plywood, concrete and color-impregnated Plexiglas became staples of his career. Judd's first floor box structure was made in 1964, and his first floor box using Plexiglas followed one year later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Judd Donald Judd, /Untitled,/ 1977, Münster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster, Germany
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You have apparently missed the scientific research that Fred Travis published more thn 10 years ago on people who were reporting being in CC consistently for at least a year. This article discusses the theory and research on pure consciousness during TM and the theory and research on the stabilization of pure consciousness outside of TM: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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Very good points. The IRS Form 990s of the Maharishi Foundation, USA, and the David Lynch Foundation, give a pretty good idea of where money has been spent since those organizations were founded, but both of them are recent creations. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. I am pretty sure the average investor or giver of charity to the Movement in aid of some project or other was pretty much thinking there was good karma to be had by doing so or simply that if the money did not go toward one particular thing it would go to another worthy cause. Of course, this does nothing to encourage honesty or accountability on the part of the Movement in order to let investors know what happened to their money because the whole thing is based on good will and the sometimes mistaken idea that those in power have only good intentions and are honest. This is never a good way to operate because it would definitely encourage theft and embezzlement by either those running things or MMY himself. People are people and that means they are usually not above dipping their hand into an anonymous pot of money. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. As we all know (I think and hope) there is no outward way to measure enlightenment. For any spiritual system to claim they have X amount of enlightened followers would be laughable. I rather applaud any movement that doesn't make a list of enlightened people. No one is going to believe the list anyway. I mean, it isn't like enlightened people glow purple or start spontaneously speaking in Hebrew so that at least we could spot them in a crowd. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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CC = dissociative state = depersonalization = the source of a lot of so-called unstressing and resultant mental/emotional problems in many long term TMers. Whee! Happy Sunday! From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life You have apparently missed the scientific research that Fred Travis published more thn 10 years ago on people who were reporting being in CC consistently for at least a year. This article discusses the theory and research on pure consciousness during TM and the theory and research on the stabilization of pure consciousness outside of TM: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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No. It is just that CC is not enlightenment by any standard. It is an early stage experience that one may have by whatever means a person is pursuing enlightenment. It is not a permanent experience subjectively. It is the first substantial taste of what 'freedom' in the enlightenment sense might be because you recognise that there is something more to experience than just thoughts, activity, and the dead of sleep (TC is not substantial because it is intermittent). Sleep is a completely silent state too, but there is no sense of self or ego or sense of mind there, so evaluation of experience is not possible in sleep, so you do not learn anything from it. I believe others here have pointed out that M referred to CC as 'glorified ignorance'. The subjective experience of experiencing deep silence inside but seemingly separate from the activity of the mind and the world is nice. It represents the greatest contrast between activity and non-activity that one can have on a spiritual path. It is the easiest experience to point to on the spiritual path because of that contrast between 'absolute' and 'relative' is so strong. But as they are separate, they are dis-integrated, and the mind for the most part is as deluded as ever, still seeing snakes in the grass when there are none. What is actually being experienced is the reflection of being on a silent aspect or facet of the mind that has developed as a result of meditation. You do not experience pure consciousness in this state. For the sake of explaining this to someone in these states, you just say that, even though it is not accurate, because it has referential and experiential meaning for them in that state. But it is a lie. It gives you an idea of what pure consciousness might be. An analogical experience and a metaphorical explanation. There is no scientific evidence of consciousness in the brain, or the mind, although scientist, for the sake of research, have to assume consciousness is there somehow. They are measuring correlates of subjective experience, that is all. The witness of activity and experience is located equally everywhere, not merely simultaneous with activity and experience, but this is unknown in CC. CC experiences have been reported by TM meditators and Zen meditators, but the Zen meditators do no consider this enlightenment by any means. I assume it is also experienced by others but I am not so familiar with those other traditions. I believe I saw a reference to it once in an article about Sufis. The main thing is, in the TM movement, one is not often informed that what one is being told is part of the illusion. A thorn to remove a thorn. That at some point that explanation is going to be pulled out from under your as experience and understanding change. When you dig out the thorn of ignorance with that second thorn (the ideas and understanding that the spiritual path brings), what are you going to do with the two thorns? You don't want the first one, that is clear, but the second one is the same thing, so you have to toss that one as well. That means everything on the spiritual path at some point has to be tossed away. Everything you thought was real, turns out to be an uninformed opinion about experience from your point of view. A further problem develops, because if you want to talk about it, you have to express it as a metaphorical opinion, and whoever is dense enough to believe you is going to be sucked into the lie unless you have the tools to lead them out of that eventually. Unlike many other paths TM does not seem to foster critical thinking and practical scepticism about what one is told. It actually seems worse has time goes on, TM is becoming more and more a system of belief rather than a system of strategies and understanding for freeing the mind from ignorance. Note that in Fred's article, the word enlightenment only appears twice—as a keyword, and in the references, it does not appear in the text of the article or the abstract. Note too that M once said that with TM there was at least CC for everyone. But remember that is a pale shadow of experience and knowledge to come. And that the experience and knowledge to come might not be what you expect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You have apparently missed the scientific research that Fred Travis published more thn 10 years ago on people who were reporting being in CC consistently for at least a year. This article discusses the theory and research on pure consciousness during TM and the theory and research on the stabilization of pure consciousness outside of TM: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is
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On 7/13/2014 10:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: CC = dissociative state = depersonalization = the source of a lot of so-called unstressing and resultant mental/emotional problems in many long term TMers. Whee! Happy Sunday! It sounds like you are in a trance-induction state based on what you've posted lately. It's almost like you are in some kind of long-term redundant dissociative condition that leads you to repeat logically unsound statements based on circumstantial evidence and rumors. This tends to produce depersonalization in some long-term ex-TMers. Once they quit TM they can't even think straight and they get all stressed-out. Go figure. The major characteristic of all dissociative phenomena involves a detachment from reality, rather than a loss of reality as in psychosis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_%28psychology%29 *From:* lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:03 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life You have apparently missed the scientific research that Fred Travis published more thn 10 years ago on people who were reporting being in CC consistently for at least a year. This article discusses the theory and research on pure consciousness during TM and the theory and research on the stabilization of pure consciousness outside of TM: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This reply Michael, is not logically sound. It is circumstantial evidence that M was more interested in other things. But I too noticed that projects began, or were advertised, and then never materialised. I never gave money to any movement project. It was always very clear that the flow of money was a one way street, and that if a project did not materialise or was unfinished, you would not get anything back. And for Nabby, if Buddha managed 500 enlightened people, what is TM movement tally so far? Maharishi's statement would be true if the movement produced 501 enlightened people, which taking into account modern communications, would not be so hot by comparison. I have never heard of any official movement statement regarding anyone getting enlightened, including Maharishi. The most I have heard is from time to time the movement publishes a list of 'experiences' certain people have had, such as 'after TM I noticed that my nail fungus seemed better than before'. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : His habit of begging, cajoling, bullying and wheedling people to give him money for projects that never materialized and giving no explanation for where the money went makes your assertion untrue. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982
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And yet, witnessing sleep is a hallmark of being in CC... And where did I say that CC was the end-all of enlightenment? I generally describe the people that Fred studies as those who are in the beginning stages of the first of several higher states collectively called enlightenment. I left out all the caveats because I assumed that people on this forum would fill in the omitted qualifiers. And, even in CC, the realization that Self is permanent means that when such a person dies, they dont' go anywhere -that is, there's no rebirth involved, because even though they don't notice that Self is all that there is, even in the external world, the fact that they have realized Self means that there's no place left for them to go when the body goes away --Self never goes anywhere. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No. It is just that CC is not enlightenment by any standard. It is an early stage experience that one may have by whatever means a person is pursuing enlightenment. It is not a permanent experience subjectively. It is the first substantial taste of what 'freedom' in the enlightenment sense might be because you recognise that there is something more to experience than just thoughts, activity, and the dead of sleep (TC is not substantial because it is intermittent). Sleep is a completely silent state too, but there is no sense of self or ego or sense of mind there, so evaluation of experience is not possible in sleep, so you do not learn anything from it. I believe others here have pointed out that M referred to CC as 'glorified ignorance'. The subjective experience of experiencing deep silence inside but seemingly separate from the activity of the mind and the world is nice. It represents the greatest contrast between activity and non-activity that one can have on a spiritual path. It is the easiest experience to point to on the spiritual path because of that contrast between 'absolute' and 'relative' is so strong. But as they are separate, they are dis-integrated, and the mind for the most part is as deluded as ever, still seeing snakes in the grass when there are none. What is actually being experienced is the reflection of being on a silent aspect or facet of the mind that has developed as a result of meditation. You do not experience pure consciousness in this state. For the sake of explaining this to someone in these states, you just say that, even though it is not accurate, because it has referential and experiential meaning for them in that state. But it is a lie. It gives you an idea of what pure consciousness might be. An analogical experience and a metaphorical explanation. There is no scientific evidence of consciousness in the brain, or the mind, although scientist, for the sake of research, have to assume consciousness is there somehow. They are measuring correlates of subjective experience, that is all. The witness of activity and experience is located equally everywhere, not merely simultaneous with activity and experience, but this is unknown in CC. CC experiences have been reported by TM meditators and Zen meditators, but the Zen meditators do no consider this enlightenment by any means. I assume it is also experienced by others but I am not so familiar with those other traditions. I believe I saw a reference to it once in an article about Sufis. The main thing is, in the TM movement, one is not often informed that what one is being told is part of the illusion. A thorn to remove a thorn. That at some point that explanation is going to be pulled out from under your as experience and understanding change. When you dig out the thorn of ignorance with that second thorn (the ideas and understanding that the spiritual path brings), what are you going to do with the two thorns? You don't want the first one, that is clear, but the second one is the same thing, so you have to toss that one as well. That means everything on the spiritual path at some point has to be tossed away. Everything you thought was real, turns out to be an uninformed opinion about experience from your point of view. A further problem develops, because if you want to talk about it, you have to express it as a metaphorical opinion, and whoever is dense enough to believe you is going to be sucked into the lie unless you have the tools to lead them out of that eventually. Unlike many other paths TM does not seem to foster critical thinking and practical scepticism about what one is told. It actually seems worse has time goes on, TM is becoming more and more a system of belief rather than a system of strategies and understanding for freeing the mind from ignorance. Note that in Fred's article, the word enlightenment only appears twice—as a keyword, and in the references, it does not appear in the text of the article or the abstract. Note too that M once said that with TM there was at least
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Excellent. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life No. It is just that CC is not enlightenment by any standard. It is an early stage experience that one may have by whatever means a person is pursuing enlightenment. It is not a permanent experience subjectively. It is the first substantial taste of what 'freedom' in the enlightenment sense might be because you recognise that there is something more to experience than just thoughts, activity, and the dead of sleep (TC is not substantial because it is intermittent). Sleep is a completely silent state too, but there is no sense of self or ego or sense of mind there, so evaluation of experience is not possible in sleep, so you do not learn anything from it. I believe others here have pointed out that M referred to CC as 'glorified ignorance'. The subjective experience of experiencing deep silence inside but seemingly separate from the activity of the mind and the world is nice. It represents the greatest contrast between activity and non-activity that one can have on a spiritual path. It is the easiest experience to point to on the spiritual path because of that contrast between 'absolute' and 'relative' is so strong. But as they are separate, they are dis-integrated, and the mind for the most part is as deluded as ever, still seeing snakes in the grass when there are none. What is actually being experienced is the reflection of being on a silent aspect or facet of the mind that has developed as a result of meditation. You do not experience pure consciousness in this state. For the sake of explaining this to someone in these states, you just say that, even though it is not accurate, because it has referential and experiential meaning for them in that state. But it is a lie. It gives you an idea of what pure consciousness might be. An analogical experience and a metaphorical explanation. There is no scientific evidence of consciousness in the brain, or the mind, although scientist, for the sake of research, have to assume consciousness is there somehow. They are measuring correlates of subjective experience, that is all. The witness of activity and experience is located equally everywhere, not merely simultaneous with activity and experience, but this is unknown in CC. CC experiences have been reported by TM meditators and Zen meditators, but the Zen meditators do no consider this enlightenment by any means. I assume it is also experienced by others but I am not so familiar with those other traditions. I believe I saw a reference to it once in an article about Sufis. The main thing is, in the TM movement, one is not often informed that what one is being told is part of the illusion. A thorn to remove a thorn. That at some point that explanation is going to be pulled out from under your as experience and understanding change. When you dig out the thorn of ignorance with that second thorn (the ideas and understanding that the spiritual path brings), what are you going to do with the two thorns? You don't want the first one, that is clear, but the second one is the same thing, so you have to toss that one as well. That means everything on the spiritual path at some point has to be tossed away. Everything you thought was real, turns out to be an uninformed opinion about experience from your point of view. A further problem develops, because if you want to talk about it, you have to express it as a metaphorical opinion, and whoever is dense enough to believe you is going to be sucked into the lie unless you have the tools to lead them out of that eventually. Unlike many other paths TM does not seem to foster critical thinking and practical scepticism about what one is told. It actually seems worse has time goes on, TM is becoming more and more a system of belief rather than a system of strategies and understanding for freeing the mind from ignorance. Note that in Fred's article, the word enlightenment only appears twice—as a keyword, and in the references, it does not appear in the text of the article or the abstract. Note too that M once said that with TM there was at least CC for everyone. But remember that is a pale shadow of experience and knowledge to come. And that the experience and knowledge to come might not be what you expect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You have apparently missed the scientific research that Fred Travis published more thn 10 years ago on people who were reporting being in CC consistently for at least a year. This article discusses the theory and research on pure consciousness during TM and the theory and research on the stabilization of pure consciousness outside of TM: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice
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You are confusing the 24/7 establishment in Silence, with some transient experience, and calling both, CC. Only the permanent state is referred to as CC. A person may have a brief experience of witnessing, even for a few days or weeks, but that is not called CC, or Cosmic Consciousness, simply because it goes away. To say that CC is not enlightenment by any standard, is a misunderstanding of what CC, is. The other traditions may not recognize CC for that it is, because they don't see it in its proper context, as the permanent establishment of Silence, within oneself, leaving only the discovery of Self in the external world for enlightenment to continue. All of your words are based on a transient experience of witnessing, but not what can legitimately be called CC. You are taking your beginner experiences of inner silence, and extrapolating them, to interpret Maharishi's teaching, and you end up in a mess. Probably a good thing for you to wait until the Silence is permanent, 24/7, to comment further. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No. It is just that CC is not enlightenment by any standard. It is an early stage experience that one may have by whatever means a person is pursuing enlightenment. It is not a permanent experience subjectively. It is the first substantial taste of what 'freedom' in the enlightenment sense might be because you recognise that there is something more to experience than just thoughts, activity, and the dead of sleep (TC is not substantial because it is intermittent). Sleep is a completely silent state too, but there is no sense of self or ego or sense of mind there, so evaluation of experience is not possible in sleep, so you do not learn anything from it. I believe others here have pointed out that M referred to CC as 'glorified ignorance'. The subjective experience of experiencing deep silence inside but seemingly separate from the activity of the mind and the world is nice. It represents the greatest contrast between activity and non-activity that one can have on a spiritual path. It is the easiest experience to point to on the spiritual path because of that contrast between 'absolute' and 'relative' is so strong. But as they are separate, they are dis-integrated, and the mind for the most part is as deluded as ever, still seeing snakes in the grass when there are none. What is actually being experienced is the reflection of being on a silent aspect or facet of the mind that has developed as a result of meditation. You do not experience pure consciousness in this state. For the sake of explaining this to someone in these states, you just say that, even though it is not accurate, because it has referential and experiential meaning for them in that state. But it is a lie. It gives you an idea of what pure consciousness might be. An analogical experience and a metaphorical explanation. There is no scientific evidence of consciousness in the brain, or the mind, although scientist, for the sake of research, have to assume consciousness is there somehow. They are measuring correlates of subjective experience, that is all. The witness of activity and experience is located equally everywhere, not merely simultaneous with activity and experience, but this is unknown in CC. CC experiences have been reported by TM meditators and Zen meditators, but the Zen meditators do no consider this enlightenment by any means. I assume it is also experienced by others but I am not so familiar with those other traditions. I believe I saw a reference to it once in an article about Sufis. The main thing is, in the TM movement, one is not often informed that what one is being told is part of the illusion. A thorn to remove a thorn. That at some point that explanation is going to be pulled out from under your as experience and understanding change. When you dig out the thorn of ignorance with that second thorn (the ideas and understanding that the spiritual path brings), what are you going to do with the two thorns? You don't want the first one, that is clear, but the second one is the same thing, so you have to toss that one as well. That means everything on the spiritual path at some point has to be tossed away. Everything you thought was real, turns out to be an uninformed opinion about experience from your point of view. A further problem develops, because if you want to talk about it, you have to express it as a metaphorical opinion, and whoever is dense enough to believe you is going to be sucked into the lie unless you have the tools to lead them out of that eventually. Unlike many other paths TM does not seem to foster critical thinking and practical scepticism about what one is told. It actually seems worse has time goes on, TM is becoming more and more a system of belief rather than a system of strategies and understanding for freeing the mind from ignorance. Note that in
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This pure consciousness is the basis of all these waking, dreaming and sleeping states of consciousness. How do we know it? We know it for the simple reason that pure existence is the basis for all that exists; it's very obvious. All that exists, exists in the basis of existence. The entire relative filed of phenomenal existence is based on pure existence. Waking, dreaming, and sleeping - these are the three relative states of consciousness. Belonging to the relative field they are based on the absolute being. Therefore, these three states of consciousness are based on pure consciousness, absolute Being. 'The Seven States Of Consciousness' by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi http://youtu.be/ScwYJ7GHixw On 7/13/2014 6:39 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are confusing the 24/7 establishment in Silence, with some transient experience, and calling both, CC. Only the permanent state is referred to as CC. A person may have a brief experience of witnessing, even for a few days or weeks, but that is not called CC, or Cosmic Consciousness, simply because it goes away. To say that CC is not enlightenment by any standard, is a misunderstanding of what CC, is. The other traditions may not recognize CC for that it is, because they don't see it in its proper context, as the permanent establishment of Silence, within oneself, leaving only the discovery of Self in the external world for enlightenment to continue. All of your words are based on a transient experience of witnessing, but not what can legitimately be called CC. You are taking your beginner experiences of inner silence, and extrapolating them, to interpret Maharishi's teaching, and you end up in a mess. Probably a good thing for you to wait until the Silence is permanent, 24/7, to comment further. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No. It is just that CC is not enlightenment by any standard. It is an early stage experience that one may have by whatever means a person is pursuing enlightenment. It is not a permanent experience subjectively. It is the first substantial taste of what 'freedom' in the enlightenment sense might be because you recognise that there is something more to experience than just thoughts, activity, and the dead of sleep (TC is not substantial because it is intermittent). Sleep is a completely silent state too, but there is no sense of self or ego or sense of mind there, so evaluation of experience is not possible in sleep, so you do not learn anything from it. I believe others here have pointed out that M referred to CC as 'glorified ignorance'. The subjective experience of experiencing deep silence inside but seemingly separate from the activity of the mind and the world is nice. It represents the greatest contrast between activity and non-activity that one can have on a spiritual path. It is the easiest experience to point to on the spiritual path because of that contrast between 'absolute' and 'relative' is so strong. But as they are separate, they are dis-integrated, and the mind for the most part is as deluded as ever, still seeing snakes in the grass when there are none. What is actually being experienced is the reflection of being on a silent aspect or facet of the mind that has developed as a result of meditation. You do not experience pure consciousness in this state. For the sake of explaining this to someone in these states, you just say that, even though it is not accurate, because it has referential and experiential meaning for them in that state. But it is a lie. It gives you an idea of what pure consciousness might be. An analogical experience and a metaphorical explanation. There is no scientific evidence of consciousness in the brain, or the mind, although scientist, for the sake of research, have to assume consciousness is there somehow. They are measuring correlates of subjective experience, that is all. The witness of activity and experience is located equally everywhere, not merely simultaneous with activity and experience, but this is unknown in CC. CC experiences have been reported by TM meditators and Zen meditators, but the Zen meditators do no consider this enlightenment by any means. I assume it is also experienced by others but I am not so familiar with those other traditions. I believe I saw a reference to it once in an article about Sufis. The main thing is, in the TM movement, one is not often informed that what one is being told is part of the illusion. A thorn to remove a thorn. That at some point that explanation is going to be pulled out from under your as experience and understanding change. When you dig out the thorn of ignorance with that second thorn (the ideas and understanding that the spiritual path brings), what are you going to do with the two thorns? You don't want the first one, that is clear, but the second one is the same thing, so you have to toss that one as
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It is crap like this that makes the modern TM Movement so disgusting. When I started, TM was just sit and meditate, then go enjoy. That's it. TM was supposed to make us all stronger and even invincible, but now it includes all sorts of fear. Fear the new house, fear the old house, fear entities, fear other people's vibes, fear this fear that - and do all sorts of esoteric stuff to ward off the potential negative vibes. Kudos to the fleet mac and cheese man for not falling prey to the fear vibe. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam Sri Suktam Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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On 7/12/2014 8:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: When I started, TM was just sit and meditate, then go enjoy. That's it. You left out a few things: 1957 - Founded the worldwide Spiritual Regeneration 1958 - Discovered the seven states of consciousness. 1959 - Founded the Transcendental Mediation Program. 1962 - Recommended Hatha Yoga asanas. 1966 - Founded the Students International Meditation Society. 1969 - Inaugurated the Science of Creative Intelligence. 1973 - Trained 5,000 teachers of SCI. 1974 -Founded the Maharishi International University. 1975 - Brought to light the lively potential of Rik Veda. 1976 - Created a World Government for the Age of Enlightenment. 1976 - Started the Yogic Flying program TMSP. 1985 - Brought to light Ayur-Veda, Gandharva Veda, Dhanur-Veda, Sthapatya Veda, and Jyotish.
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I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is crap like this that makes the modern TM Movement so disgusting. When I started, TM was just sit and meditate, then go enjoy. That's it. TM was supposed to make us all stronger and even invincible, but now it includes all sorts of fear. Fear the new house, fear the old house, fear entities, fear other people's vibes, fear this fear that - and do all sorts of esoteric stuff to ward off the potential negative vibes. Kudos to the fleet mac and cheese man for not falling prey to the fear vibe. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors
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Man, that is classic! Who wants to live according to some chart? I am gonna remember that, thanks Fleet! From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is crap like this that makes the modern TM Movement so disgusting. When I started, TM was just sit and meditate, then go enjoy. That's it. TM was supposed to make us all stronger and even invincible, but now it includes all sorts of fear. Fear the new house, fear the old house, fear entities, fear other people's vibes, fear this fear that - and do all sorts of esoteric stuff to ward off the potential negative vibes. Kudos to the fleet mac and cheese man for not falling prey to the fear vibe. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam Sri Suktam Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative
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Yeah - so true. I like that MMY brought out his Vedic perspective on all this stuff, but I don't see enough value there, to chase it. Nor do I think that is why he spoke about it. Each Vedic tuning, on each domain of living, whether housing, health, astrology, or music, wasn't, imo, meant to become some absolute edict, or supreme way to live, on the way to the truth, or enlightenment. But, since he was always taken so seriously, all Maharishi had to do was comment on something, and his most ardent followers became rather severe about implementing it, whatever it was. The Vedic architecture houses I have seen pictures of, are pretty damned ugly, for starters - at best, completely unimaginative. I like integrating what I learned, and learn, from Maharishi into a full life; my life, vs. filling in a rather humdrum life, by focusing awkwardly, and a little too intensely, on what Maharishi said. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Man, that is classic! Who wants to live according to some chart? I am gonna remember that, thanks Fleet! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is crap like this that makes the modern TM Movement so disgusting. When I started, TM was just sit and meditate, then go enjoy. That's it. TM was supposed to make us all stronger and even invincible, but now it includes all sorts of fear. Fear the new house, fear the old house, fear entities, fear other people's vibes, fear this fear that - and do all sorts of esoteric stuff to ward off the potential negative vibes. Kudos to the fleet mac and cheese man for not falling prey to the fear vibe. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors
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Purchased in the mid-1990s as a weekend and summer home, a getaway, part of the farm’s attraction was the old barn, already half-converted into living quarters. The downstairs had electricity, running water from a good well, a water heater, a tub and a toilet, a septic system. There was a range in the kitchen. The place had a phone line, which meant that we had dial-up internet (virtually the only option at the time). The nearest town, Rocky Mount, with just over 4,000 people, was 15 miles away. 'Farming the Apocalypse' Aeon: http://tinyurl.com/ppvavg8 On 7/11/2014 8:35 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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Raising individual and collective consciousness was the one aspect that mattered most to Maharishi, everything else was just the frosting of the cake. It is said that the Lord Buddha left 500 enlightened people. I think we will do better - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Buddha Yayanti, River Rhine, Germany, 1982 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yeah - so true. I like that MMY brought out his Vedic perspective on all this stuff, but I don't see enough value there, to chase it. Nor do I think that is why he spoke about it. Each Vedic tuning, on each domain of living, whether housing, health, astrology, or music, wasn't, imo, meant to become some absolute edict, or supreme way to live, on the way to the truth, or enlightenment. But, since he was always taken so seriously, all Maharishi had to do was comment on something, and his most ardent followers became rather severe about implementing it, whatever it was. The Vedic architecture houses I have seen pictures of, are pretty damned ugly, for starters - at best, completely unimaginative. I like integrating what I learned, and learn, from Maharishi into a full life; my life, vs. filling in a rather humdrum life, by focusing awkwardly, and a little too intensely, on what Maharishi said. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life I have said before the reason I stuck with TM and TMSP, was that I had all that I needed. I saw too much wishful thinking going on, with the other stuff. Also, who wants to live, according to some chart? If something is difficult, I'll back off and try later, or I'll push ahead a little harder, regardless of which way my planets are spinning. Common sense, and staying intelligently active, bypasses an awful lot of this analysis-paralysis. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind
[FairfieldLife] Living a spiritual and artistic life
Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me.
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On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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On 7/11/2014 8:35 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... You might be needing to get a riding mower in order to maintain the property. My suggestion is to get a John Deere - they are good machines. Try to avoid Murray at Walmart. The next thing you have to do is find out where the nearest schools are and the availability of a school bus. Next, you want to be finding out where the nearest Whole Foods Market is located. Many people that live in the country must plan on making a weekly trip to the nearest large super-market. You might consider starting a garden. One of the things you could do is build a dude ranch out back with a petting zoo for the kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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no grass, yay - desert landscaping. One of the things I avoided were large lawns - huge waste of water. I shop at 7-Eleven more often than Whole Foods, but thanks for the tip. Also, unlike Texas, you can't keep wid animals in California. I looked into it - the law says, keep 'em wild. Although I would love to have a herd of giraffes, one day...on a lot more land, with lots of acacia trees. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... You might be needing to get a riding mower in order to maintain the property. My suggestion is to get a John Deere - they are good machines. Try to avoid Murray at Walmart. The next thing you have to do is find out where the nearest schools are and the availability of a school bus. Next, you want to be finding out where the nearest Whole Foods Market is located. Many people that live in the country must plan on making a weekly trip to the nearest large super-market. You might consider starting a garden. One of the things you could do is build a dude ranch out back with a petting zoo for the kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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What I do to rectify the property, is move in. :-) Any attention on the specifics you mention below, would be, for me, to doubt the absolute faith and surrender, I place in every moment of my life. Although there is a new house, and an old house, I am really not going anywhere. There is nothing to fix, resolve, and rectify, unless it is taken care of, in the moment, in this moment. And once the moments of awareness are all strung together, like a string of multi-colored lights, the result will be perfect. It always is. The property is located on a butte, 1300 feet up. The back of the property ends at a 400 foot cliff. My wife brought up the possibility of mining, too. There is no water flowing there, except deep underground. We don't own it yet, but I visit quite often, mentally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to
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On 7/11/2014 10:03 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: no grass, yay - desert landscaping. One of the things I avoided were large lawns - huge waste of water. The advantage to having a lawn is for the kids and the dog to play on - it's a real mess with kids and pets tracking in mud all over the place when it rains. The idea of a desert landscape would be better and easier to maintain. Sometimes there is a problem with weeds on large lots - sprouting up all over the place. You may find it easier to keep up with three house in town than maintain four acres. These days when I see a ranch or farm for sale I also see a sign in my mind that reads WORK. I shop at 7-Eleven more often than Whole Foods, but thanks for the tip. Shopping for pre-packaged foods has it's own set of problems. It's much easier to buy whole foods in bulk, when you're living in the country - most 7-Eleven's don't carry foods in any large quantity. But, if you're near a 7-Eleven you're not even considered out in the country anyway. Go figure. Also, unlike Texas, you can't keep wid animals in California. I looked into it - the law says, keep 'em wild. Although I would love to have a herd of giraffes, one day...on a lot more land, with lots of acacia trees. You've got acacia trees in the dessert? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... You might be needing to get a riding mower in order to maintain the property. My suggestion is to get a John Deere - they are good machines. Try to avoid Murray at Walmart. The next thing you have to do is find out where the nearest schools are and the availability of a school bus. Next, you want to be finding out where the nearest Whole Foods Market is located. Many people that live in the country must plan on making a weekly trip to the nearest large super-market. You might consider starting a garden. One of the things you could do is build a dude ranch out back with a petting zoo for the kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to rely on a cesspool. Unless you live near a rural road, you might not be able to get piped in water and plumbed out effluent. The first few days can be a challenge. Life is for living. I know there are those who denigrate a creative and artistic lifestyle, preferring instead to sit indoors, basically criticizing everything, and taking the dogs for a daily shit. That to me, is a living death, like being buried alive. Anyway, I am excited about the architectural possibilities in front of me. At first, you will be needing to get a gasoline generator out there to power the tools. One of the first things you have to do when building in the country is to access electricity.
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Well people's thought forms in life can be persistent things around properties evidently that seemingly can become resident as energetic entity. There are people who are good at straightening out those forms, releasing and sending them back to the Unified Field of Nature. You seem quite steady in equanimity and without need; however, as practical remedy for some to get out from under that fear mantra that the movement propels and sells around buildings and homes these other reasonable modalities can turn a south-facing-entry house feeling in to an East-facing one if the need be. I feel it could be a good investment for some to check it out for a lot of peace of mind otherwise. Kindly, -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: What I do to rectify the property, is move in. :-) Any attention on the specifics you mention below, would be, for me, to doubt the absolute faith and surrender, I place in every moment of my life. Although there is a new house, and an old house, I am really not going anywhere. There is nothing to fix, resolve, and rectify, unless it is taken care of, in the moment, in this moment. And once the moments of awareness are all strung together, like a string of multi-colored lights, the result will be perfect. It always is. The property is located on a butte, 1300 feet up. The back of the property ends at a 400 foot cliff. My wife brought up the possibility of mining, too. There is no water flowing there, except deep underground. We don't own it yet, but I visit quite often, mentally. Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take the family on a few camping trips. That way you can see how they behave in the wilderness or out in the back of beyond. One overnight camping trip in the rough should do it, and then you'll probably know if this is even feasible or not. You can take a travel trailer to sleep in some water to drink. You can start digging a water well at any point. The next thing you have to do is set the latrine. In some cases, you will have to
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You've taken the TMSP, right? - That is all you need. Gaining the confident ability to use the senses over a greater spectrum, than is commonly experienced, gives us the ability to deal with whatever is there, directly. Surround yourself, at all times, with angels, saints, and the gods and goddesses, or at least have direct access to them. Nothing gets past that.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Well people's thought forms in life can be persistent things around properties evidently that seemingly can become resident as energetic entity. There are people who are good at straightening out those forms, releasing and sending them back to the Unified Field of Nature. You seem quite steady in equanimity and without need; however, as practical remedy for some to get out from under that fear mantra that the movement propels and sells around buildings and homes these other reasonable modalities can turn a south-facing-entry house feeling in to an East-facing one if the need be. I feel it could be a good investment for some to check it out for a lot of peace of mind otherwise. Kindly, -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: What I do to rectify the property, is move in. :-) Any attention on the specifics you mention below, would be, for me, to doubt the absolute faith and surrender, I place in every moment of my life. Although there is a new house, and an old house, I am really not going anywhere. There is nothing to fix, resolve, and rectify, unless it is taken care of, in the moment, in this moment. And once the moments of awareness are all strung together, like a string of multi-colored lights, the result will be perfect. It always is. The property is located on a butte, 1300 feet up. The back of the property ends at a 400 foot cliff. My wife brought up the possibility of mining, too. There is no water flowing there, except deep underground. We don't own it yet, but I visit quite often, mentally. Om Fleetwood, are you rectifying the house and property? You know, if in case it is out of alignment from the previous owners or has poor influences of anything? Around here spiritual people use combinations of the John Douglas Location Repair CD, or chant or play the Sri Suktam. It is an effective way of clearing any area. Karunamayi and others have nice recitations of the Sri Suktam on CD or download. Buy a cheap player and leave it running while you are gone playing: Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Suktam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Sri Gurubhaya Namah! Hari Om! Hiranya Varnam Harineem Survanam Rajatas Rajam * Chandraam Hiranmayim LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha ** ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znx82Y4glAklist=RDznx82Y4glAk#t=44 Preview by Yahoo There are other people who specialize in this work that can have good effect on properties. I can ask around get links for referral. We've used house clearing on properties to obvious and good result. Is this property in the foothills, elevated, wooded, facing what direction, have a stream nearby, just wondering? Could it be fenced for horses? Sheep or cattle? You know, make it more productive like the bible says. Mineral extraction possibilities? Oh yes in property management, you know you can keep as many animals on a property as you can haul feed and water to them. The shit flows downhill. There is a lot of spiritual people here interested in aqua-culture now as a concentrated feeding operation alternative to livestock. I look forward to your enlightened journal about homesteading in nature. -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: No need, Richard, there is already a lovely new house on the property, with landscaping and a pool. The acreage is 2+. This is the wild stuff, in back of the already done stuff. Also, the water table starts at 300 to 400 feet, so I won't be hand digging any wells... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/11/2014 8:06 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Unlike some here who have subsumed their lives, for a TV screen, I am always looking for ways to grow and learn, often outdoors. My wife and I will probably end up in this home that includes a full acre and a half of woods. There are cougars, deer, coyotes, rabbits and other wildlife there. I am already planning to build a structure, or ten, in the woods. I am interested in either a cave type dwelling, built at least halfway underground, or a tree house. Perhaps a blind to observe nature. I have also thought of a Disneyesque area, where I could build scenes using mannequins, posed and dressed in the woods. My daughter says it is too creepy, so we'll see. The first thing you want to do is take
