[FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...

2015-01-27 Thread salyavin808
The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea 
that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds 
like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social 
effects. 
 Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour then the 
same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave coherence on 
the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if society is 
behaving better with lots of people meditating.
 I certainly never have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe 
their lack of good evidence is proof that it is working after all.
 

 MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE 
PEOPLE':
 ...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like that 
when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of 
‪#‎consciousness‬ 
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/consciousness?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877.
 Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally useful to every 
level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there could be a 
thousand angles to see.
 
 You look at the flower from this side, it looks like that. You look at
the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from 
above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks
different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a
particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his 
mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look 
at it from a different point of view.
 Do not judge the success of ‪#‎meditation‬ 
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/meditation?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877
 from the behaviors of the
people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others.
Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how 
much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are 
harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 More info on the social benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits 
http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits
 
 
 http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits How 
transcendental meditation can have a calming effect on surrounding populations 
and can positively affect social change.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...

2015-01-27 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What a bullshitter the Old Fraud was. 

The problem with what he is saying, especially as it relates to TM specifically 
is that when the meditator, TM teacher and especially the Old Fraud that 
started it all look at their own behavior they see nothing wrong when they are 
looking through that state of dissociation that TM'ers regale as witnessing 
they can be sexual predators, financial frauds, frauds on a grand scale 
(selling ineffective group practices and equally ineffective yagyas) and they 
can see how happy they are by all the sex and money they are hoodwinking others 
into giving them.Thus they can say meditation is effective for them. The more I 
see what bs Marshy used to get what he wanted the more I despise him.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...
   
    The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea 
that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds 
like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social 
effects. Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour 
then the same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave 
coherence on the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if 
society is behaving better with lots of people meditating.I certainly never 
have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe their lack of good 
evidence is proof that it is working after all.
MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE 
PEOPLE':...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like 
that when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of 
‪#‎consciousness‬. Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally 
useful to every level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there 
could be a thousand angles to see.You look at the flower from this side, it 
looks like that. You look at
the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from 
above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks
different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a
particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his 
mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look 
at it from a different point of view.Do not judge the success of ‪#‎meditation‬ 
from the behaviors of the
people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others.
Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how 
much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are 
harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh YogiMore info on the social 
benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...

2015-01-27 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are a funny kid, Michael. 

 Applying the laws of physics, you must be ready to adore him, because you've 
been despising him from day one, and now we learn that you despise him even 
more.
 

 I mean, pretty much every day, you're despising him, even more.
 

 So, I'm guessing you are either going to self immolate in this ongoing 
despising, or maybe it'll go round the bend and turn into some kind of 
adoration.
 

 Somethings gotta give dude.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 The more I see what bs Marshy used to get what he wanted the more I despise 
him.

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...
 
 
   
 The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea 
that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds 
like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social 
effects. 
 Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour then the 
same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave coherence on 
the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if society is 
behaving better with lots of people meditating.
 I certainly never have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe 
their lack of good evidence is proof that it is working after all.
 

 MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE 
PEOPLE':
 ...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like that 
when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of 
‪#‎consciousness‬ 
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/consciousness?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877.
 Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally useful to every 
level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there could be a 
thousand angles to see.
 
 You look at the flower from this side, it looks like that. You look at
the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from 
above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks
different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a
particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his 
mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look 
at it from a different point of view.
 Do not judge the success of ‪#‎meditation‬ 
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/meditation?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877
 from the behaviors of the
people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others.
Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how 
much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are 
harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 More info on the social benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits 
http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits
 
 
 http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits How 
transcendental meditation can have a calming effect on surrounding populations 
and can positively affect social change.


 
 View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits
 Preview by Yahoo