[FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...
The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social effects. Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour then the same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave coherence on the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if society is behaving better with lots of people meditating. I certainly never have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe their lack of good evidence is proof that it is working after all. MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE PEOPLE': ...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like that when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of #consciousness https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/consciousness?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877. Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally useful to every level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there could be a thousand angles to see. You look at the flower from this side, it looks like that. You look at the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look at it from a different point of view. Do not judge the success of #meditation https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/meditation?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877 from the behaviors of the people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others. Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi More info on the social benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits How transcendental meditation can have a calming effect on surrounding populations and can positively affect social change. View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...
What a bullshitter the Old Fraud was. The problem with what he is saying, especially as it relates to TM specifically is that when the meditator, TM teacher and especially the Old Fraud that started it all look at their own behavior they see nothing wrong when they are looking through that state of dissociation that TM'ers regale as witnessing they can be sexual predators, financial frauds, frauds on a grand scale (selling ineffective group practices and equally ineffective yagyas) and they can see how happy they are by all the sex and money they are hoodwinking others into giving them.Thus they can say meditation is effective for them. The more I see what bs Marshy used to get what he wanted the more I despise him. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results... The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social effects. Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour then the same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave coherence on the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if society is behaving better with lots of people meditating.I certainly never have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe their lack of good evidence is proof that it is working after all. MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE PEOPLE':...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like that when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of #consciousness. Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally useful to every level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there could be a thousand angles to see.You look at the flower from this side, it looks like that. You look at the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look at it from a different point of view.Do not judge the success of #meditation from the behaviors of the people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others. Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh YogiMore info on the social benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits || || http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits How transcendental meditation can have a calming effect on surrounding populations and can positively affect social change.|| | View on uk.tm.org |Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347 -- #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp #yiv5632458347hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp #yiv5632458347ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp .yiv5632458347ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp .yiv5632458347ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-mkp .yiv5632458347ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-sponsor #yiv5632458347ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-sponsor #yiv5632458347ygrp-lc #yiv5632458347hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347ygrp-sponsor #yiv5632458347ygrp-lc .yiv5632458347ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5632458347 #yiv5632458347activity span .yiv5632458347underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5632458347 .yiv5632458347attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5632458347 .yiv5632458347attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5632458347
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results...
You are a funny kid, Michael. Applying the laws of physics, you must be ready to adore him, because you've been despising him from day one, and now we learn that you despise him even more. I mean, pretty much every day, you're despising him, even more. So, I'm guessing you are either going to self immolate in this ongoing despising, or maybe it'll go round the bend and turn into some kind of adoration. Somethings gotta give dude. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The more I see what bs Marshy used to get what he wanted the more I despise him. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on not judging TM by its results... The timely quote below just dropped into my inbox. It's an interesting idea that the results of TM can't be judged by the behaviour of meditators- sounds like a get out clause to me - but they then give a link to the claimed social effects. Surely if TM has no discernable effect on the individual's behaviour then the same thing scaled up via the alleged Maharishi Effect on brainwave coherence on the social scale means we similarly shouldn't be able to tell if society is behaving better with lots of people meditating. I certainly never have been able to tell, but the TMO does. What gives? Maybe their lack of good evidence is proof that it is working after all. MAHARISHI ON 'NOT JUDGING THE SUCCESS OF MEDITATION FROM THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE PEOPLE': ...Many people have been telling me 'Oh how can that man behave like that when he is meditating?' Remember, there are different levels of #consciousness https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/consciousness?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877. Meditation is equally dear and equally forceful and equally useful to every level of consciousness. And for every behavior of a man there could be a thousand angles to see. You look at the flower from this side, it looks like that. You look at the same flower from the other side it looks like that.You look at it from above, it looks different. You look at it from below, it looks different. You can't charge the efficiency of meditation for a particular behavior of a meditator. He would have one particular angle in his mind, from that he goes ahead. You have a different angle of vision. You look at it from a different point of view. Do not judge the success of #meditation https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/meditation?source=feed_textstory_id=10202607552864877 from the behaviors of the people. Because there is no end to judging the behavior of others. Just judge your own sphere of life, how much harmony has spread around you, how much you are happier and how much you are peaceful and how much you are harmonious with others. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi More info on the social benefits of TM: http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits How transcendental meditation can have a calming effect on surrounding populations and can positively affect social change. View on uk.tm.org http://uk.tm.org/social-benefits Preview by Yahoo