Re: [FairfieldLife] Matter and consciousness?

2013-10-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
MMY had a fondness for the Kashmere Trika philosophy - I guess that's 
why he and students visited the Swami Laksmanjoo up in Kashmere on 1968 
TTC. Kashmere Saivism is an absolute idealism, just like Adwaita 
Vedanta. The main difference is the interpretation given to the term 
'maya'.


Swami Laksmanjoo and Swami Mulktananda used to teach Adwaita Vedanta and 
Kashmere Saivism to their students. There's not much difference between 
the two traditions, which are both forms of monism.


Kashmere Trika is a non-dual metaphysical system called 'Trika'. In 
Sanskrit, the term 'trika' pertains to number, '3', the three, or 
trinity. There are three states of consciousness, waking, sleeping, and 
dreaming; there is a fourth state, a state of pure consciousness, a 
transcendental state called 'turiya'.


Turiya in Sanskrit means 'fourth', used in the Adwaita Vedanta to 
indicate the fourth state of consciousness, explained in Mandukhya 
Upanishad:


In both deep sleep and transcendental consciousness there is no 
consciousness of objects. But this objective consciousness is present in 
an unmanifest 'seed' form in deep sleep while it is completely 
transcended in the turiya.


Mandukya Upanishad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad

On 10/18/2013 12:43 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:

empty et al:

Did Maharishi state something like (paraphrase): the basic state of 
consciousness is

subjective experience of the state of least excitation of matter??

If that's the case was he more of an advaitic vedantist than a 
proponent of
Patañjali's yoga?? I mean, according to saaMhkya and thus PJ, purusha 
has nothing to do with prakRti?






Re: [FairfieldLife] Matter and consciousness?

2013-10-18 Thread Share Long
Richard can you give more detail about how these two systems view maya? Maybe 
it'll help me stay out of the rabbit hole!





On Friday, October 18, 2013 9:12 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
MMY had a fondness for the Kashmere Trika philosophy - I guess that's why he 
and students visited the Swami Laksmanjoo up in Kashmere on 1968 TTC. Kashmere 
Saivism is an absolute idealism, just like Adwaita Vedanta. The main difference 
is the interpretation given to the term 'maya'. 

Swami Laksmanjoo and Swami Mulktananda used to teach Adwaita
  Vedanta and Kashmere Saivism to their students. There's not much
  difference between the two traditions, which are both forms of
  monism.

Kashmere Trika is a non-dual metaphysical system called 'Trika'.
  In Sanskrit, the term 'trika' pertains to number, '3', the three,
  or trinity. There are three states of consciousness, waking,
  sleeping, and dreaming; there is a fourth state, a state of pure
  consciousness, a transcendental state called 'turiya'. 

Turiya in Sanskrit means 'fourth', used in the Adwaita Vedanta to
  indicate the fourth state of consciousness, explained in Mandukhya
  Upanishad:

In both deep sleep and transcendental consciousness there is no
  consciousness of objects. But this objective consciousness is
  present in an unmanifest 'seed' form in deep sleep while it is
  completely transcended in the turiya.

Mandukya Upanishad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad

On 10/18/2013 12:43 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
empty et al:


Did Maharishi state something like (paraphrase): the basic state of 
consciousness is 
subjective experience of the state of least excitation of matter??


If that's the case was he more of an advaitic vedantist than a proponent of
Patañjali's yoga?? I mean, according to saaMhkya and thus PJ, purusha has 
nothing to do with prakRti? 



[FairfieldLife] Matter and consciousness?

2013-10-17 Thread cardemaister
empty et al:
 

Did Maharishi state something like (paraphrase): the basic state of 
consciousness is subjective experience of the state of least excitation of 
matter??
 

 If that's the case was he more of an advaitic vedantist than a proponent of
 Patañjali's yoga?? I mean, according to saaMhkya and thus PJ, purusha has 
nothing to do with prakRti?