[FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. Who knows what natural law IS? Do you? How? Did you believe someone who told you he or she knew what it was? Why? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@ wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill. CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall we reap. Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of perversions, who really knows? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
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BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
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I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified?, we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
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BillyG wrote: I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified? You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your being straight? (If you are?) , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. I don't believe I suggested that. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a mistake and what isn't to God. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
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I was talking about CLutes' suggestion about 3/3, it doesn't justify (or make un-sinful) what most scriptures condemn. It may explain the condition, but even so, as I recall Mr. Lutes said it was 'willfulness' that created the imbalance, that's the whole story. How could *I* be gay if there is NO such thing! The real *I* is a sexless soul having a human experience in alternating bodies, both male and female. By gay if you mean by behavior, then I would say no. A person isn't Gay or Straight, that merely refers to their behavior NOT who they are inside. FWIW. God already makes the Judgments or right and wrong, so should we, unless we want to be like the rudderless ship soon to break upon the rocks of ignorance. I think I do know what is God's plan, don't YOU? after all of these years of meditation and exploration? Really? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified? You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your being straight? (If you are?) , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. I don't believe I suggested that. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a mistake and what isn't to God. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
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William, I've been catching up with my Mom this morning so haven't been able to reply until now. Also I've got that knowledge meeting this afternoon. Anyway, thanks for your reply and I'll say more later but for now: who knows what really happened in Atlantis? Why, those of us who were there and remember! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill. CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall we reap. Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of perversions, who really knows? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
