RE: [FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option A month ago, Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address that 'any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family.' [Now that we don't have a public option how will Obama keep the insurance companies honest? RD] We've had a process that started out in backrooms with K Street Lobbyists, moved to deliberate campaigns of misinformation by many members of the press, to shows of downright stupidity by the pundit class and members of congress who did everything in town hall meetings from rudely answering cell phone calls, shouting down constituents as outsiders and NAZIs, and demonstrating complete incompetence by explaining why reading the bills they vote on was too complex and long for them. We've had POTUS go back on the campaign trail, completely unable to read a coherent explanation about what the plan is and left to decry things like 'we're not going to kill any one's grandma.' [Ever since Baucus took the public option off the table and Rahm Emanuel said Obama would consider signing a bill without a public option, I knew the fix was in. Saying that we lost the public option because of incompetence is too kind. It was an intentional screw up, a Kabuki dance, a game of distraction and let's you and him fight. The opening act was a beer with the president. The main attraction was right-wing rage and left-wing indignation. It was quite a show. The final act was the insurance companies and Big Pharma getting exactly what they wanted. There aren't any do overs or creep toward a better bill. This is it folks. THERE WILL NEVER BE A PUBLIC OPTION. We will never check the power of the K Street until we change the 14th amendment and corporations are no longer people. Sadly, won't feel the full impact of a health care bill until Obama leaves office and we will have long forgotten exactly how we were fooled. Take a bow, Obama. RD] http://tinyurl.com/r23exl http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/rip-public-option/ This is all written as though there will definitely be no public option. I think it's too early to call. But those who wrote it take delight in doing so because it enables them to grind their anti-Obama ax once again. I agree that the 14th amendment should be changed. Corporate lobbying is this country's greatest curse. And changing it would be a serious Catch 22, as the corporate lobbyists would fight such change so fiercely. BTW, how do you think health care reform would be coming along if Hillary were president? I suspect she'd be getting twice the flak Obama is getting. Her praise for him was quite effusive in last week's Fareed Zakaria interview. Maybe working closely with him has given her a perspective Raunchy can't attain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option
On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:27 PM, Rick Archer wrote: http://tinyurl.com/r23exl http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/rip-public-option/ This is all written as though there will definitely be no public option. I think it's too early to call. But those who wrote it take delight in doing so because it enables them to grind their anti- Obama ax once again. I agree that the 14th amendment should be changed. Corporate lobbying is this country's greatest curse. And changing it would be a serious Catch 22, as the corporate lobbyists would fight such change so fiercely. BTW, how do you think health care reform would be coming along if Hillary were president? I suspect she'd be getting twice the flak Obama is getting. Her praise for him was quite effusive in last week'sFareed Zakaria interview. Maybe working closely with him has given her a perspective Raunchy can't attain. The lobbyists have already made one of the biggest wins they could have prayed for and that was, despite huge, almost astronomical purchasing powers for hordes of meds, Obama appears to have conceded to not give the taxpayers a price reduction for the millions and millions of drugs they will have to purchase from Big Pharma. One widget one price, a million widgets the same price? WTF? How can we pretend to be anything like the Canadian plans, when they get HUGE discounts for a much smaller population for their pharmaceuticals. Seniors in Maine line up for buses to New Brunswick and get 60+% savings on the same meds in Canada. And he can't get a discount. It's insane. Time to scrap the plan.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option
Rick Archer wrote: Corporate lobbying is this country's greatest curse. And changing it would be a serious Catch 22, as the corporate lobbyists would fight such change so fiercely. This has been a battle since the founding of this country. Immigrants from Europe came here to escape feudalism while feudalism lords have been trying to establish it here. The feudalist lords are winning. They are the lords of Wall Street and the boardroom. They want to make the populace their serfs. I hope that if they get anywhere near that far the public wakes up and burns the feudalist lords alive in their mansions.
[FairfieldLife] RIP Public Option
A month ago, Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address that 'any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest and choose what's best for your family.' [Now that we don't have a public option how will Obama keep the insurance companies honest? RD] We've had a process that started out in backrooms with K Street Lobbyists, moved to deliberate campaigns of misinformation by many members of the press, to shows of downright stupidity by the pundit class and members of congress who did everything in town hall meetings from rudely answering cell phone calls, shouting down constituents as outsiders and NAZIs, and demonstrating complete incompetence by explaining why reading the bills they vote on was too complex and long for them. We've had POTUS go back on the campaign trail, completely unable to read a coherent explanation about what the plan is and left to decry things like 'we're not going to kill any one's grandma.' [Ever since Baucus took the public option off the table and Rahm Emanuel said Obama would consider signing a bill without a public option, I knew the fix was in. Saying that we lost the public option because of incompetence is too kind. It was an intentional screw up, a Kabuki dance, a game of distraction and let's you and him fight. The opening act was a beer with the president. The main attraction was right-wing rage and left-wing indignation. It was quite a show. The final act was the insurance companies and Big Pharma getting exactly what they wanted. There aren't any do overs or creep toward a better bill. This is it folks. THERE WILL NEVER BE A PUBLIC OPTION. We will never check the power of the K Street until we change the 14th amendment and corporations are no longer people. Sadly, won't feel the full impact of a health care bill until Obama leaves office and we will have long forgotten exactly how we were fooled. Take a bow, Obama. RD] http://tinyurl.com/r23exl http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/rip-public-option/
