[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lord Krishna Told Arjuna to Fight' (when to fight back?)

2006-07-31 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/31/06 1:11:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  jflanegi@ writes:
  
  I just  got done reading a condensed version of the Mahabharata 
 which 
contains a short version of all the stories from the full 
 version. 
What's striking about every story is how aggressive Krishna is 
 in 
demanding that that the five Pandava brothers including Arjuna 
 kill 
their relatives even though they all protested. Krishna never 
 even 
hinted at negotiations, reconciliations or truces. He insisted 
 that 
they be killed. Many of the stories describe Krishna killing, 
beheading bad guys, demons, rakshasas. 
   
  The last remark I recall  that Maharishi made about the killing 
in 
 the 
  BG is that it is all  internal, meant to be seen as an internal 
war 
 vs 
  a literal one. It was  during the past year or so during a press  
  conference.
  
  Yet M used to say that the battle took place right where Noidia
  is, a physical site.
 
 That's the history, the external battle.  The teaching
 is the internal battle (that's how I understand it, at
 any rate).

One thing that has been striking to me;
Which has been stirred up, by this conversation;
Is that, my father fought in WWII, mostly in the Czech Republic area.
Anyway, he was over there for about 3-4 years, in the war;
He carried a bazooka, or a rocket launcher, and won some medals.
He is Jewish.
I think at the end of the war, although he's never talked about it 
much;
All of the soldiers, as well as the German people, were taken to view 
the concentration camps, by General Eisenhower.
I think my father never really got over what he saw there.
And I think he wondered, having fought tooth and nail;
To defeat the Nazi's;
Why oh why, had these people not fought back??








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lord Krishna Told Arjuna to Fight' (when to fight back?)

2006-07-31 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  

   In a message dated 7/31/06 1:11:33 P.M. Central Daylight 
Time,  
   jflanegi@ writes:
   
   I just  got done reading a condensed version of the 
Mahabharata 
  which 
 contains a short version of all the stories from the full 
  version. 
 What's striking about every story is how aggressive Krishna 
is 
  in 
 demanding that that the five Pandava brothers including 
Arjuna 
  kill 
 their relatives even though they all protested. Krishna 
never 
  even 
 hinted at negotiations, reconciliations or truces. He 
insisted 
  that 
 they be killed. Many of the stories describe Krishna 
killing, 
 beheading bad guys, demons, rakshasas. 

   The last remark I recall  that Maharishi made about the 
killing 
 in 
  the 
   BG is that it is all  internal, meant to be seen as an 
internal 
 war 
  vs 
   a literal one. It was  during the past year or so during a 
press  
   conference.
   
   Yet M used to say that the battle took place right where Noidia
   is, a physical site.
  
  That's the history, the external battle.  The teaching
  is the internal battle (that's how I understand it, at
  any rate).
 
 One thing that has been striking to me;
 Which has been stirred up, by this conversation;
 Is that, my father fought in WWII, mostly in the Czech Republic 
area.
 Anyway, he was over there for about 3-4 years, in the war;
 He carried a bazooka, or a rocket launcher, and won some medals.
 He is Jewish.
 I think at the end of the war, although he's never talked about it 
 much;
 All of the soldiers, as well as the German people, were taken to 
view 
 the concentration camps, by General Eisenhower.
 I think my father never really got over what he saw there.
 And I think he wondered, having fought tooth and nail;
 To defeat the Nazi's;
 Why oh why, had these people not fought back??
 


Actually, those that had guns did fight back.

But gun control laws confiscated almost all of them before the war.







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