[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-24 Thread ShempMcGurk
Your proclivity to use racial stereotypes tells us much of how you feel about 
your fellow man.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  The last thing this country needs is a Mahatma Gandhi.
  
  India has only recently gotten free of the horrible economic shackles his 
  policies have been strangling India with.  I refer to his silly made in 
  India policies, particularly those surrounding the textile industry.
 
 
 By George you are right old chap. I was just discussing this with a chum at 
 our Club, sipping 20 year old brandy and smoking fine Cubans. Our small, 
 feeble and rather dense yellow friends were far better off when India was the 
 jewel of the British Empire, with these local rouges and rift raft having the 
 right and honor to be plundered, beaten, cheated, humiliated, degraded, and 
 killed by the finest of men, the finest of Empires -- Long live the Queen!
 
  
  In the past 10-15 years India consciously abandoned those principles and 
  opened themselves up to globalization and they have finally begun to thrive 
  in a big way.
 
 Hear hear old sport. The British Empire globalized-- as if on on steriods -- 
 those little monkeys. That Ghandi chap certain mucked the greatest wave of 
 globalization ever seen by man-- the British Empire -- bringing civilization 
 and Christianity to the heathen masses of the world wide. And for what? All 
 that rights of man, self-dignity, freedom, self-determination crap. What 
 utter nonsense! What a utter rubbish. 
 
 Clearly those jungle bunnies would be far better off if India remained a 
 brutally ruled colony of one of the largest and grandest Imperial 
 jauggarnauts ever to rape and pillage the earth.. (And aside from all the 
 minerals, resources, cheap labor and all that we rightful claimed as our own 
 in India, we got cool  words like jauggernaught (If only they had simplified 
 the spelling) 
 
 Well I am off for safari. To sporten things up, I hear they are going to 
 release 50 Ghandians in the jungle for us to sharpen our hunting skills and 
 instincts. Good bloody sport I must say. Well, Cheers! Long live the Queen 
 and Empire.
 
 
 
   
 
  The community organiser reminds me of Gandhi.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:



[snip]



 
 Grayson has created the Web site SaveDemocracy.net
 http://savedemocracy.net/  to gather petitions in support of his
 bills. On Friday at 8:30 AM EST there were nearly 40,000 signatories.


[snip]


Putting aside my opinions on this particular issue for the moment, I must take 
offense at something else.

I get really irritated whenever I see an online petition claiming to have 
gotten X amount of signatures.  Why?  Because as anyone who has ever gone to 
the trouble of trying to get real signatures, it is a really hard, sweaty 
laborious thing to do.

Getting a signature online is to the order of probably 1/1,000th as difficult.

Therefore, to my mind, it doesn't and shouldn't hold the same weight as a 
real signature does.

Yes, it most certainly should hold some weight...but a different weight.  
Perhaps using a different term would do the trick: online signature or 
signatory (such as used above, although it isn't differentiating enough, to 
my mind).

And, by the way, 40,000 online signatures is NOT a lot...even at this early 
stage. They'll have to get a whole lot more to make any kind of dent.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread anatol_zinc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned
 an invisible government owing no allegiance and
 acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

 To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the
 unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics
 is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.

 -Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906

 .
 What conservatism seems to mean to them, when you get down to it, is
 simply offering comfort to the comfortable and afflicting the
 afflicted, Grayson said.

 http://rawstory.com/2010/01/grayson/
 

Grayson is on the right track;
what this country needs are real statesmen
what this country needs are mahatmas like:
Gandhi, MLKing, Peace Pilgrim
to speak truth from the heart
no matter what the consequences
and move people in the direction
of compassion away from selfishness

the way it looks right now, however,
is that selfishness will destroy America
will destroy the world
perhaps, the human race will become extinct

i still believe Obama is a good man and best America has to offer for
the job
but if the collective consciousness of the people is for selfishness
there is little he can really do
it has to be a collective effort of real sharing and caring

Amma ~ the most serious problem facing the world today is the pollution
of the human mind and the increase in selfishness and cruelty. This is
the root of all the others problems facing the world today. Everything
in the world is changing—with one exception: our negative mental
state! Our personality is a reflection of our mind. The ability of human
beings to rise up to a situation and act is slowly disappearing. In the
name of stability and competition, mankind is allowing their lives to be
led by hatred, revenge and stubbornness.

Maybe Mother Kali is here to asses the situation and make a decision?
Maharishi once said, probably in the 60's, (paraphrased from memory)
the engineers come to asses and see if it's worthwhile to repair; or
uproot and start anew.

in any case, it never hurts to pray/chant
May all beings everywhere be peaceful and happy !
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu ! Om Santi Santi Santihi !





[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:
snip
 I get really irritated whenever I see an online petition
 claiming to have gotten X amount of signatures.  Why?
 Because as anyone who has ever gone to the trouble of
 trying to get real signatures, it is a really hard,
 sweaty laborious thing to do.
 
 Getting a signature online is to the order of probably
 1/1,000th as difficult.

True, but which is more important, the effort put out by
the folks looking for the signatures, or that put out by
the folks who sign their names?

It isn't *that* much more difficult for you to take a pen
and sign a petition somebody hands you at a supermarket or
on a street corner than to click a link to fill in your
name and email address on a Web site.

What annoys *me* about online petitions is that they're 
all too often more about the email addresses than the
signatures. These days, I don't sign online petitions
unless there's an opt-out box to check if you don't want
to receive email from the site forever.

Grayson's petition does not have such a box. He's
collected a very nice mailing list to solicit donations
for his campaign for reelection to Congress this
November.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread ShempMcGurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote:



[snip]



 
 Grayson is on the right track;
 what this country needs are real statesmen
 what this country needs are mahatmas like:
 Gandhi, MLKing, Peace Pilgrim
 to speak truth from the heart
 no matter what the consequences
 and move people in the direction
 of compassion away from selfishness


[snip]


The last thing this country needs is a Mahatma Gandhi.

India has only recently gotten free of the horrible economic shackles his 
policies have been strangling India with.  I refer to his silly made in India 
policies, particularly those surrounding the textile industry.

In the past 10-15 years India consciously abandoned those principles and opened 
themselves up to globalization and they have finally begun to thrive in a big 
way.

The community organiser reminds me of Gandhi.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread anatol_zinc
material wealth does not ensure survival of civilization

sanatana dharma of vedic culture[and other world mistics] survived
muslim and british domination
the universal principles of sanatana dharma
have survived for thousands of years
and have been offered as a last chance for human race to redeem itself

in MMY case, his offer of TM was good but not good enough
it should have been offered for free for everyone without selfishness
Everything else that MMY offered after TM was flawed with selfishness
and the TM org turned over to selfish millionaires

Amma's offer of compassion and unselfishness is a much better example
and the only hope

I repeat, material wealth does not ensure survival of civilization,
the goal of each nation should not be
to get as wealthy as they can get away with,
but, to become as civil as possible
only civility can ensure survival of civilization

that's my 2cents,
anatol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_zinc@
wrote:



 [snip]



 
  Grayson is on the right track;
  what this country needs are real statesmen
  what this country needs are mahatmas like:
  Gandhi, MLKing, Peace Pilgrim
  to speak truth from the heart
  no matter what the consequences
  and move people in the direction
  of compassion away from selfishness


 [snip]


 The last thing this country needs is a Mahatma Gandhi.

 India has only recently gotten free of the horrible economic shackles
his policies have been strangling India with.  I refer to his silly
made in India policies, particularly those surrounding the textile
industry.

 In the past 10-15 years India consciously abandoned those principles
and opened themselves up to globalization and they have finally begun to
thrive in a big way.

 The community organiser reminds me of Gandhi.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread tartbrain

Expressing opinions, without any substantive case building for such, without 
integrating the belief into the larger context of ongoing discussions and 
others' points of view -- and with no reasons for supporting such beliefs, all 
that is fine.

And it appears to be a favored style of several here -- even if it seems to 
involve a bit of self-absorption when done in a CHAT forum. Perhaps less  
narcissistic if this were a self-journal blog. 

For example, why is this our last chance? Any substantive reasons, historical 
perspective, special insight, and all, other than that a thought came to my 
head -- without any effort?

Ancients once thought that thoughts in their heads were the voices of God. I 
mean, clearly they were doing nothing to create the thought, but yet it kept 
appearing. Must be God! (Well, given this logic, God must have stuck THAT 
thought in their had also. God's a tricky fellow) 

Farts also come, pretty much without effort. I wonder if that is God also 
speaking, and thus its essential that I report all such raw experiences with 
all. 

Is your, and others who bath in the delights of 

just my opinion, no facts please, no logic, no reasoning, no personal 
experience. Just a raw thought I had, without any personal involvement in 
creating it, so it must be TRUE.  

truly content to just reveal the effortless raw thoughts that arise within your 
heads? Reporting on your inner struggle with an intellectual or emotional 
discordance or dilemma that challenged you to structure a reasoned, facts and 
experience based opinion -- and to integrate that into the larger discussion, 
isn't that far more interesting, valuable and compelling than simply revealing 
a raw thought?

Is this a forum just for simply reporting random thoughts? (not that there is 
anything wrong with that.) Or a forum to mutually examine assumptions, views, 
facts, reasoning, logic,  experience, to help one's self, and possibly 
others, gain greater insight and understanding on issues that challenge us all? 

   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote:

 material wealth does not ensure survival of civilization
 
 sanatana dharma of vedic culture[and other world mistics] survived
 muslim and british domination
 the universal principles of sanatana dharma
 have survived for thousands of years
 and have been offered as a last chance for human race to redeem itself
 
 in MMY case, his offer of TM was good but not good enough
 it should have been offered for free for everyone without selfishness
 Everything else that MMY offered after TM was flawed with selfishness
 and the TM org turned over to selfish millionaires
 
 Amma's offer of compassion and unselfishness is a much better example
 and the only hope
 
 I repeat, material wealth does not ensure survival of civilization,
 the goal of each nation should not be
 to get as wealthy as they can get away with,
 but, to become as civil as possible
 only civility can ensure survival of civilization
 
 that's my 2cents,
 anatol
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_zinc@
 wrote:
 
 
 
  [snip]
 
 
 
  
   Grayson is on the right track;
   what this country needs are real statesmen
   what this country needs are mahatmas like:
   Gandhi, MLKing, Peace Pilgrim
   to speak truth from the heart
   no matter what the consequences
   and move people in the direction
   of compassion away from selfishness
 
 
  [snip]
 
 
  The last thing this country needs is a Mahatma Gandhi.
 
  India has only recently gotten free of the horrible economic shackles
 his policies have been strangling India with.  I refer to his silly
 made in India policies, particularly those surrounding the textile
 industry.
 
  In the past 10-15 years India consciously abandoned those principles
 and opened themselves up to globalization and they have finally begun to
 thrive in a big way.
 
  The community organiser reminds me of Gandhi.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan Grayson (D-FL) weighs in on Supreme Court ruling

2010-01-23 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 The last thing this country needs is a Mahatma Gandhi.
 
 India has only recently gotten free of the horrible economic shackles his 
 policies have been strangling India with.  I refer to his silly made in 
 India policies, particularly those surrounding the textile industry.


By George you are right old chap. I was just discussing this with a chum at our 
Club, sipping 20 year old brandy and smoking fine Cubans. Our small, feeble and 
rather dense yellow friends were far better off when India was the jewel of the 
British Empire, with these local rouges and rift raft having the right and 
honor to be plundered, beaten, cheated, humiliated, degraded, and killed by the 
finest of men, the finest of Empires -- Long live the Queen!

 
 In the past 10-15 years India consciously abandoned those principles and 
 opened themselves up to globalization and they have finally begun to thrive 
 in a big way.

Hear hear old sport. The British Empire globalized-- as if on on steriods -- 
those little monkeys. That Ghandi chap certain mucked the greatest wave of 
globalization ever seen by man-- the British Empire -- bringing civilization 
and Christianity to the heathen masses of the world wide. And for what? All 
that rights of man, self-dignity, freedom, self-determination crap. What utter 
nonsense! What a utter rubbish. 

Clearly those jungle bunnies would be far better off if India remained a 
brutally ruled colony of one of the largest and grandest Imperial jauggarnauts 
ever to rape and pillage the earth.. (And aside from all the minerals, 
resources, cheap labor and all that we rightful claimed as our own in India, we 
got cool  words like jauggernaught (If only they had simplified the spelling) 

Well I am off for safari. To sporten things up, I hear they are going to 
release 50 Ghandians in the jungle for us to sharpen our hunting skills and 
instincts. Good bloody sport I must say. Well, Cheers! Long live the Queen and 
Empire.



  

 The community organiser reminds me of Gandhi.