Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
--- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Right! And your source for this tidbit besides the akashic records? And anyone who believes anything L Ron Stupid says is, is, is, a scientologist! Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Right! And your source for this tidbit besides the akashic records? And anyone who believes anything L Ron Stupid says is, is, is, a scientologist! In Squaw Valley 1968, Maharishi said very explicitly that he had never met L. Ron Hubbard. What little he knew about him, and any positive impressions he might have had about Hubbard, came from a woman who was an early student of Maharishi's who had been Hubbard's personal secretary for many years. Rubbish, they met personally on Hubbards yacht. The techniques of Ron Hubbard will have a greater effect on history than psychoterapy. - Maharishi This is not a direct quote but is recorded several places. Please show those places.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:22 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM --- matrixmonitor HYPERLINK mailto:matrixmonitor%40yahoo.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Right! And your source for this tidbit besides the akashic records? And anyone who believes anything L Ron Stupid says is, is, is, a scientologist! I don’t know about secret meetings, but I was there in Belgium when MMY said that if L. Ron Hubbard had been running the TM movement, it’s goals would have been accomplished long ago. He said this at the end of a TTC I was teaching, during the meeting held at the end of every TTC where other systems are discussed and dismissed as inferior to TM. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Right! And your source for this tidbit besides the akashic records? And anyone who believes anything L Ron Stupid says is, is, is, a scientologist! In Squaw Valley 1968, Maharishi said very explicitly that he had never met L. Ron Hubbard. What little he knew about him, and any positive impressions he might have had about Hubbard, came from a woman who was an early student of Maharishi's who had been Hubbard's personal secretary for many years. Rubbish, they met personally on Hubbards yacht. The techniques of Ron Hubbard will have a greater effect on history than psychoterapy. - Maharishi This is not a direct quote but is recorded several places.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Right! And your source for this tidbit besides the akashic records? And anyone who believes anything L Ron Stupid says is, is, is, a scientologist! In Squaw Valley 1968, Maharishi said very explicitly that he had never met L. Ron Hubbard. What little he knew about him, and any positive impressions he might have had about Hubbard, came from a woman who was an early student of Maharishi's who had been Hubbard's personal secretary for many years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip . ... Old Mayo was also well versed in China's ancient wisdom that had been handed down from generation to generation. Ron passed many evenings in the company of such wise men, eagerly absorbing their words ... Matrix, you bring up a very important point, and one that has been overlooked by most historians. It is the issue of Old Mayo, and the role Old Mayo played in one of the most regressive times in Chinese history. From the time of Marco Polo China was known for it's fine silks, and subtle and captivating art. And then along came Old Mayo. Tell me, tell me earnestly, what culture would not be adversely affected by Old Mayo. It is a blight that cannot be ignored, or easily overcome. It is no wonder that only now is China finally recovering from the hangover caused by Old Mayo Lord, we thank you, that our brothers and sisters in the Orient no longer must wear the yoke of oppression brought on by Old Mayo. And Lord please keep this affliction of Old Mayo away from your other children. Thank you Lord.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:07 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Matrix, you bring up a very important point, and one that has been overlooked by most historians. It is the issue of Old Mayo, and the role Old Mayo played in one of the most regressive times in Chinese history. From the time of Marco Polo China was known for it's fine silks, and subtle and captivating art. And then along came Old Mayo. Tell me, tell me earnestly, what culture would not be adversely affected by Old Mayo. Ours sure has been. Got a lot more calories than mustard, and it doesn't even taste good. It is a blight that cannot be ignored, or easily overcome. It is no wonder that only now is China finally recovering from the hangover caused by Old Mayo Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
Yes you can still see the effects of that slaughter which removed intelligence from the gene pool. We do our dumbing down differently over here. - Original Message From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 6:07:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM matrixmonitor@ ... wrote: snip . ... Old Mayo was also well versed in China's ancient wisdom that had been handed down from generation to generation. Ron passed many evenings in the company of such wise men, eagerly absorbing their words ... Matrix, you bring up a very important point, and one that has been overlooked by most historians. It is the issue of Old Mayo, and the role Old Mayo played in one of the most regressive times in Chinese history. From the time of Marco Polo China was known for it's fine silks, and subtle and captivating art. And then along came Old Mayo. Tell me, tell me earnestly, what culture would not be adversely affected by Old Mayo. It is a blight that cannot be ignored, or easily overcome. It is no wonder that only now is China finally recovering from the hangover caused by Old Mayo Lord, we thank you, that our brothers and sisters in the Orient no longer must wear the yoke of oppression brought on by Old Mayo. And Lord please keep this affliction of Old Mayo away from your other children. Thank you Lord. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
--By the same token, from a Chinese POV, Tibet was in the grip of rulership by religious feudal lords who kept the populace in bondage to a midieval way of life. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you can still see the effects of that slaughter which removed intelligence from the gene pool. We do our dumbing down differently over here. - Original Message From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 6:07:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM matrixmonitor@ ... wrote: snip . ... Old Mayo was also well versed in China's ancient wisdom that had been handed down from generation to generation. Ron passed many evenings in the company of such wise men, eagerly absorbing their words ... Matrix, you bring up a very important point, and one that has been overlooked by most historians. It is the issue of Old Mayo, and the role Old Mayo played in one of the most regressive times in Chinese history. From the time of Marco Polo China was known for it's fine silks, and subtle and captivating art. And then along came Old Mayo. Tell me, tell me earnestly, what culture would not be adversely affected by Old Mayo. It is a blight that cannot be ignored, or easily overcome. It is no wonder that only now is China finally recovering from the hangover caused by Old Mayo Lord, we thank you, that our brothers and sisters in the Orient no longer must wear the yoke of oppression brought on by Old Mayo. And Lord please keep this affliction of Old Mayo away from your other children. Thank you Lord. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before TM
---MMY was into Scientology before establishing TM, and had numerous secret meetings with L. Ron Hubbard in various places such as Tibet, Calcutta, and even China: Hubbard sometimes displayed attitudes that were at odds with the picture his followers try to present of him. For instance, during his visit to China at the age of seventeen, he made diary entries such as: As a Chinaman can not live up to a thing, he always drags it down.[11] and They smell of all the baths they didnt [sic] take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here.[11][21] Similarly, Hubbard described the Tibetan Buddhist temples as miserably cold and very shabby . . . The people worshiping have voices like bull- frogs and beat a drum and play a brass horn to accompany their singing (?)[11] and called them very odd and heathenish.[22] He also wrote about colored people in Scientology: Fundamentals of Thought : Unlike the yellow and brown people, the white does not usually believe he can get attention from matter or objects. The yellow and brown believe for the most part ... that rocks, trees, walls, etc., can give them attention[23] and ...so we see the African tribesman, with his complete contempt for the truth, and his emphasis on brutality and savagery...[24] In the 2007 edition of the book, primitive is substituted for African in the passage just mentioned. While such attitudes might not be especially surprising for a white teenager born in 1911, they are vastly at odds with the stories he would later tell and his followers would repeat: Among other wonders, Ron told of watching monks meditate for weeks on end, contemplating higher truths ... he took advantage of this unique opportunity to study Far Eastern culture. ... he befriended and learned ... a thoroughly insightful Beijing magician who represented the last of the line of Chinese magicians from the court of Kublai Khan. ... Old Mayo was also well versed in China's ancient wisdom that had been handed down from generation to generation. Ron passed many evenings in the company of such wise men, eagerly absorbing their words ... he closely examined the surrounding culture. In addition to the local Tartar tribes, he spent time with nomadic bandits originally from Mongolia ... [t]hese sojourns in Asia and the Pacific islands had a profound effect, giving Ron a subjective understanding of Eastern philosophy ... the world itself was his classroom, and he studied in it voraciously, recording what he saw and learned in his ever-present diaries, which he carefully preserved for future reference.[25][26] Does anyone have a brief description and/or link of MMY's experience with yoga/meditation before establishing TM? A bit more than having spent two years in seclusion or as a longtime secretary to a leading Hindu sage. What other journeys and explorations did he have before establishing TM? *When you assume a threshold of being that is expansive enough to contain the universe, then the universe is within you, accessible in whole along with all its talents and charms. Do not hesitate another moment to acknowledge this loving magnanimity within you and express this satyam through your service to humanity.* ** *Now that you know this sublime truth, the world awaits your advent, now.*