Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me
Really? From: wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: snip A guru is essential as it is possible to meditate the first time and have the kundalini rise to crown chakra which can be very disconcerting. Really?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me
Gopi Krisna was one person this happened to and it took him 12 years to recover. He wrote a book about it. Not sure it was the first time he tried meditation though http://gopikrishna.us/ The first time I tried meditation, almost 4 years before I learned TM it happened to me. However I had been doing yoga asanas for a couple weeks before I sat down and tried meditation, from a book no less. The asanas were taught to me by an Indian woman staying at the house. On 11/06/2011 12:08 AM, Denise Evans wrote: Really? From: wgm4uanitaoak...@att.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: snip A guru is essential as it is possible to meditate the first time and have the kundalini rise to crown chakra which can be very disconcerting. Really?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself. Learning all about what Maharishi didn't teach about the chakras. Sponsoring very heavy, very intense yagyas. The others I'm sponsoring for and I are going through some very rough stuff. Stuff that's taken us to ERs on 3 different continents.My specialty is the third chakra. I have to wait every day for just the right time for the pain, retching and heaving to stop or subside long enough to chow down. that's the legacy of a Christian upbringing, I'm suffering and listening to some whacked-out incomprehensible parables, now I'm on the right path! Why did I spend so such time in the bliss of yogic flying!? I've had about $20K worth of tests done and my internist, who is the most highly regarded in the area I'm in right now writes into his chart nervous stomach. As luck would have it, he practices Kundalini Yoga. He tells me what's really happening is blowing trash out of my 3rd chakra, an especially important chakra for me as I suffered very powerful physical and emotional abuse as a child till the age of 16. I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice Yogurt Lite. We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness. Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness. Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body. Perhaps this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial. His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat. After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis. Perhaps he was happily trying to be dissociated from his body. BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body. The body drops us.
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I really couldn't get into it, but I think it could be abridged and made into a version of The Twelve Days of Christmas in honor of the season. On the first day of Pho-wa, my teacher gave to me.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tom Pall wrote: I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice Yogurt Lite. We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness. Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness. Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body. Perhaps this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial. His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat. After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis. Perhaps he was happily trying to be dissociated from his body. BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body. The body drops us. It depends on the practitioner. It's not unusual to be trained in transferring the consciousness outside the body - and it's not unusual to find 'it works' before you ever die. --- An old and interesting account of learning phowa, transference of consciousness. Late in my life, I practised Pho-wa [transference; Skt.: saMkrAnti], an esoteric Tibetan technique for rebirth in the Pure Land, which had not been introduced in China before. The teaching is based on the principle that when someone who is due to be reborn in the Western Paradise is dying, his consciousness will leave through the Aperture of Brahma (in the top of his skull): thus one is taught to repeat mantras to open this aperture and to practise regularly so that one can follow a similar path at the moment of death. In 1933, when I was sixty-one, I had already received this Dharma from the Tibetan guru No Na who had urged me to practise it at home (which I did) unsuccessfully. In the spring of 1937, when I was sixty-five, I heard that the guru Sheng Lu was teaching this Dharma in Nanking and that all those participating in the four previous meetings had succeeded in opening the Aperture of Brahma. As the fifth and last meeting was soon to take place at the Vairochana temple, I went to Nanking and put my name down to attend it. I arrived on the first of April to receive the initiation, which was very much more complicated than the one previously given me by the guru No Na. I was taught a vajra mantra as the first step in the practice. It was not a long one but the method of visualization was very elaborate. It had to be repeated one hundred thousand times, but since I had only a few days at my disposal, I did so as many times as I could. After the first day, I stayed in a lodging house and closed the door of my room to concentrate on repeating the mantra. Before midday on the ninth, I had done so sixty-two thousand times, and in the afternoon I returned to the Vairocana temple where thirty-nine of us assembled. I was told that this was considerably more than at any ofthe other four gatherings. The guru shaved a small hairless circle in the centre of my crown so that later he could sec if the Aperture of Brahma had opened in order to plant a stalk in it. On the tenth we began to isolate ourselves for meditation. In the main hall an altar was set up with all its majesty, before which the guru led us to practise the Dharma. Every day there were four sessions each lasting two hours. The practice consisted in visualizing Amitayus Buddha sitting on the top of the head and in imagining in the body a blue psychic tube which was red inside and stretched from the crown of the head to the perineum. Within this tube in the lower belly below the navel was a bright pearl which rose (up it) to the heart (centre). (When the pearl was visualized in that centre) I shouted the mantric syllable HIK, forcing up the pearl which followed the sound and thrust through the Aperture of Brahma to reach the heart of Amitayus. Then I whispered the syllable GA which caused the pearl to descend from the Buddha's heart and return through the opening to my lower belly. At each session we shouted with such force that we became hoarse and exhausted, and dripped perspiration although it was still very cold. Seeing that we were tired, the guru chanted in Sanskrit and exhorted us to follow his example and relax. This we did four or five times in each two hour session. Now I was already experienced in (the art of) meditation and had cleared the central psychic passage (in the spine) so that I made remarkable progress on the eleventh.
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Definitely something that can be usefully cultivated. This person is quite skillful at helping people with their energy system http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself.
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Healers who are good spiritual teachers become great saints. Janet Sussman like John Douglas is becoming one. Maharishi used to tell us to sit with the saints for our own evolution. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Definitely something that can be usefully cultivated. This person is quite skillful at helping people with their energy system http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@ wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me
There is more to meditating than meditating. If you pony up and do all the add ons to the TM program then chakras can also get cleaned up. With a little awareness on it helps. If you use the siddhis that way you can. Most people do not so they may be bright in ways but not well connected inside. That is a communal problem here with TM'ers. Your dad is not uncommon. It might take some discipline otherwise. He might want to sit with the saints some. )Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Healers who are good spiritual teachers become great saints. Janet Sussman like John Douglas is becoming one. Maharishi used to tell us to sit with the saints for our own evolution. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Definitely something that can be usefully cultivated. This person is quite skillful at helping people with their energy system http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@ wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras from me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: snip A guru is essential as it is possible to meditate the first time and have the kundalini rise to crown chakra which can be very disconcerting. Really?
