[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 This is an urban legend, that a lot of people use to put down 
 Catholics, arguing that there is more poverty in Catholic vs 
 Protestant countries because all the smart ones became priests 
 in the Middle Ages. There is no scientific research whatsoever 
 to support that, and I find it very mean-sprited. Only a very 
 small number **ever** went into the priesthood, and many of those 
 had kids on the side anyway.  Very few were actually drawn by a 
 desire to help others,--more like a means to survive, or, in 
 wealthier families, oftentimes the younger kids would be forced 
 in in order to keep the family fortune intact.

I was merely talking about celibacy as gene suicide,
not the Catholics or anyone else per se.  Not all 
monks or members of a celibate priesthood are in it
for completely noble reasons, but consider the ones
who are.  They have effectively removed the genes 
that led to that rare caring about others from the
overall gene pool.  I just think it's weird, that's
all...

Unc






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I know a good number of teachers, indeed whole communities of 
 practitioners and realizers who marry. I've even seen genealogies 
which 
 talk of various families in the Himalayas whose gene-pool is 
influenced 
 by beings from other dimensions.
 
 Not everything is as it seems. ;-)

Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
Virtually everyone, I bet. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jun 28, 2005, at 9:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  So what's up with that?  It would seem to me that
  logically nature would WANT these best and brightest
  folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable
  traits to future generations, rather than effectively
  depriving future generations of the genes that support
  that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
 
  Go figure, eh?
 
 I know a good number of teachers, indeed whole communities of 
 practitioners and realizers who marry. I've even seen genealogies 
 which talk of various families in the Himalayas whose gene-pool 
 is influenced by beings from other dimensions.

But...but...but Dorje darling, I really *haven't*
been unfaithful to you.  Dorje Junior doesn't look 
like you because his genes come from another
dimension, that's all.  :-)

Just kidding, really.  I know what you're saying, Vaj, but 
just couldn't resist...

Unc







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Jeff Fischer
 So what's up with that?  It would seem to me that
 logically nature would WANT these best and brightest
 folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable 
 traits to future generations, rather than effectively 
 depriving future generations of the genes that support
 that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
 
 Go figure, eh?
 
 Unc

Sounds like someone perpetrated a pernicious false datum.

Jeff




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
 Virtually everyone, I bet.

I have recall of having lived on other planets.  Anyone else? 
(Offworld?)

Jeff





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Vaj

On Jun 28, 2005, at 9:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 But...but...but Dorje darling, I really *haven't*
 been unfaithful to you.  Dorje Junior doesn't look
 like you because his genes come from another
 dimension, that's all.  :-)

The Yeti did it.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So what's up with that?  It would seem to me that
  logically nature would WANT these best and brightest
  folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable 
  traits to future generations, rather than effectively 
  depriving future generations of the genes that support
  that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
  
  Go figure, eh?
  
  Unc
 
 Sounds like someone perpetrated a pernicious false datum.
 
Yeah, it's pretty clear that not all beings through history in the 
politico-religious arena have had human evolution and terrestrial 
wellbeing as their primary goal :-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, it's pretty clear that not all beings through history in the 
 politico-religious arena have had human evolution and terrestrial 
 wellbeing as their primary goal :-)

You got that right, brother!




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Vaj

On Jun 28, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I know a good number of teachers, indeed whole communities of
 practitioners and realizers who marry. I've even seen genealogies
 which
 talk of various families in the Himalayas whose gene-pool is
 influenced
 by beings from other dimensions.

 Not everything is as it seems. ;-)

 Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines?
 Virtually everyone, I bet.

It's rare though to see it in your genealogy--at least in my family ;-).

It is heard of in various fairy tales all over the world. If you ever 
saw that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind there was a French 
sociologist in that flick who was based in real-life on Jacques Vallee. 
He did a good bit of research on this topic.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
  Virtually everyone, I bet.
 
 I have recall of having lived on other planets.  Anyone else? 

Only California.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 It's rare though to see it in your genealogy--at least in my 
family ;-).
 
 It is heard of in various fairy tales all over the world. If you 
ever 
 saw that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind there was a 
French 
 sociologist in that flick who was based in real-life on Jacques 
Vallee. 
 He did a good bit of research on this topic.

Yes, if one traces one's genealogical lines back into Plantagenet 
royalty and the like (which is far, far more common in the USA than 
most people suspect), one finds a great many other-wordly or other-
dimensional fairy-tale genealogical strands -- the magical line of 
the Merovingians, Melusine, the various gods, and so on.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Yes, if one traces one's genealogical lines back into Plantagenet 
 royalty and the like (which is far, far more common in the USA than 
 most people suspect), one finds a great many other-wordly or other-
 dimensional fairy-tale genealogical strands -- the magical line 
of 
 the Merovingians, Melusine, the various gods, and so on.

And FWIW in the past 20 years or so, careful genealogists (like 
Chretien Settipani) have established proven lineages from the 
Plantagenets and Charlemagne going all the way back to the pharaohs of 
Middle-Kingdom Egypt -- a land abundant with god-kings and -queens and 
similar other-dimensional fairy-tales. When you get into it, you 
find the most amazing connections! :-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
  Virtually everyone, I bet.
 
 I have recall of having lived on other planets.  Anyone else? 
snip 

Yes, although having lived I am not so sure of. Alternate lives 
ongoing feels closer here, though that may just be due to the here-
now nature of the records.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
  Virtually everyone, I bet.
 
 I have recall of having lived on other planets.  Anyone else? 
 (Offworld?)
 
 Jeff

Oddworld, me...

http://www.oddworld.com/




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jun 28, 2005, at 9:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   So what's up with that?  It would seem to me that
   logically nature would WANT these best and brightest
   folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable
   traits to future generations, rather than effectively
   depriving future generations of the genes that support
   that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
  
   Go figure, eh?
  
  I know a good number of teachers, indeed whole communities of 
  practitioners and realizers who marry. I've even seen genealogies 
  which talk of various families in the Himalayas whose gene-pool 
  is influenced by beings from other dimensions.
 
 But...but...but Dorje darling, I really *haven't*
 been unfaithful to you.  Dorje Junior doesn't look 
 like you because his genes come from another
 dimension, that's all.  :-)

Are you talking about that horse sacrafice again? I tell you, my great
great grand mother was following a vedic ritual, really!

Anyway, I'm hungry. Anyone got some good hay?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea

2005-06-28 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   Yeah, true; how many here have other-dimensional ancestral lines? 
   Virtually everyone, I bet.
  

Acccounting for a lot of the Space-iness here, no doubt.




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