Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots. The newest Star Trek series, Star Trek: Enterprise details a humanoid race in which their fetish, instead of tatooing or body piercings, is genetic manipulation of their appearance. The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots. The newest Star Trek series, Star Trek: Enterprise details a humanoid race in which their fetish, instead of tatooing or body piercings, is genetic manipulation of their appearance. The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. I have read that the aglets (telomeres) are shorter in mothers of disabled children, most likely as a result of the stress and grief. But I did not know that research had been done on meditation slowing the shortening process. Which type of meditation was used in the study?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 16, 2009, at 10:33 AM, wayback71 wrote: The newest Star Trek series, Star Trek: Enterprise details a humanoid race in which their fetish, instead of tatooing or body piercings, is genetic manipulation of their appearance. The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. I have read that the aglets (telomeres) are shorter in mothers of disabled children, most likely as a result of the stress and grief. But I did not know that research had been done on meditation slowing the shortening process. Which type of meditation was used in the study? Mindfulness meditation. In a more recent study, actually the largest and most complete meditation research project so far, the Shamatha Project, the leading researcher and co-discoverer telomerase, Elizabeth Blackburn, is doing the research on these samadhi practitioners.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 10:33 AM, wayback71 wrote: The newest Star Trek series, Star Trek: Enterprise details a humanoid race in which their fetish, instead of tatooing or body piercings, is genetic manipulation of their appearance. The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. I have read that the aglets (telomeres) are shorter in mothers of disabled children, most likely as a result of the stress and grief. But I did not know that research had been done on meditation slowing the shortening process. Which type of meditation was used in the study? Mindfulness meditation. In a more recent study, actually the largest and most complete meditation research project so far, the Shamatha Project, the leading researcher and co-discoverer telomerase, Elizabeth Blackburn, is doing the research on these samadhi practitioners. Excellent. I will check it out online.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. Multiple genetic indicators usually control expressed features -- for instance, autism is so far known to be linked to two genes, and there are probably a lot more genetic and epigenetic factors involved: http://snipurl.com/ndl5j [web_mit_edu] Telomeres' length is probably not the only factor governing human longevity, so a mere swapping out of a shortened telomere is probably not going to be the means for extension of human life span.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. Multiple genetic indicators usually control expressed features -- for instance, autism is so far known to be linked to two genes, and there are probably a lot more genetic and epigenetic factors involved: http://snipurl.com/ndl5j [web_mit_edu] Telomeres' length is probably not the only factor governing human longevity, so a mere swapping out of a shortened telomere is probably not going to be the means for extension of human life span. I kind of thought, it was the soul, in conjunction with the God-Force, that determined when you come into a body and when you leave... I also think that autism, is a kind of super-sensitivity, that these souls, entered, being somehow, overly-sensitive, and have something to teach, regarding the families, they are born into, and all the souls that they will touch, throughout their lives... It seems that many of the autistic kids, are born into families, where, there is a lack of emotions, and autistic people act almost totally on the level of emotion and a particular intuitive abilities... I noticed there is an abundance of autistic children being born in the Princeton, New Jersey area, when I lived there, many years ago... In the atmosphere, of the corporate empires, located there, the drug companies, the Wall St. Journal, etc... So, it all balances out, in some strange ways...that God works in... r.g.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 16, 2009, at 5:38 PM, bob_brigante wrote: The technology is already existing to swap out aglets, the ends of chromosomes which shorten as cells divide and age. There are predictions that once this becomes available for humans, we'll see a jump to a 200-600 year life span. It's also known that certain forms of meditation slows the shortening of aglets. Multiple genetic indicators usually control expressed features -- for instance, autism is so far known to be linked to two genes, and there are probably a lot more genetic and epigenetic factors involved: http://snipurl.com/ndl5j [web_mit_edu] Telomeres' length is probably not the only factor governing human longevity, so a mere swapping out of a shortened telomere is probably not going to be the means for extension of human life span. Telomere length is not the only factor in human aging, but it a major factor at the level of our cells and our DNA. Telomere lengthening is reversal of aging at the cellular level.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Telomere length is not the only factor in human aging, but it a major factor at the level of our cells and our DNA. Telomere lengthening is reversal of aging at the cellular level. It is so believed. Now if you lengthen the telemeres you discover why God designed many of our cells to not divide too often. DNA errors build up over time and sooner if not later some of your cells express the errors in their DNA. They gain the status of ultimate immortality: cancer. It's as if a certain Buddhist is promoting the benefits of his practice the way TMO and MAPI promote benefits. -- What doesn't kill you only prolongs the inevitable
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:25 PM, It's just a ride wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Telomere length is not the only factor in human aging, but it a major factor at the level of our cells and our DNA. Telomere lengthening is reversal of aging at the cellular level. It is so believed. Now if you lengthen the telemeres you discover why God designed many of our cells to not divide too often. DNA errors build up over time and sooner if not later some of your cells express the errors in their DNA. They gain the status of ultimate immortality: cancer. Hmmm. Not quite. There is a mechanism of repair you seem to be missing... It's as if a certain Buddhist is promoting the benefits of his practice the way TMO and MAPI promote benefits. Was I referring to my practice? You suck as a mind reader. I was referring to science on two certain forms of meditation, not why god or unicorns or gremlins allegedly designed our cells or anything having to do with what the TMO or MAPI does.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: It is so believed. Now if you lengthen the telemeres you discover why God designed many of our cells to not divide too often. DNA errors build up over time and sooner if not later some of your cells express the errors in their DNA. They gain the status of ultimate immortality: cancer. Hmmm. Not quite. There is a mechanism of repair you seem to be missing... It's implied that the cells' ability to repair their DNA degrades over time (with age). Errors beget errors which beget more errors. The entire repair process slows down while the defects march on.Didn't they teach you anything in nursing school? It's as if a certain Buddhist is promoting the benefits of his practice the way TMO and MAPI promote benefits. Was I referring to my practice? You suck as a mind reader. I was referring to science on two certain forms of meditation, not why god or unicorns or gremlins allegedly designed our cells or anything having to do with what the TMO or MAPI does. You promote this Buddhist meditation endlessly. That is your practice. God is used generically as the agent, be it evolution, random chance, intelligent creation, that resulted in the body's design as it is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:51 PM, It's just a ride wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: It is so believed. Now if you lengthen the telemeres you discover why God designed many of our cells to not divide too often. DNA errors build up over time and sooner if not later some of your cells express the errors in their DNA. They gain the status of ultimate immortality: cancer. Hmmm. Not quite. There is a mechanism of repair you seem to be missing... It's implied that the cells' ability to repair their DNA degrades over time (with age). Errors beget errors which beget more errors. The entire repair process slows down while the defects march on.Didn't they teach you anything in nursing school? There are a class of diseases which are ones where the repair mechanism of genes is impaired, and pre-mature aging is the result. All of these diseases are also related to telomere shortening. What I'm speaking of the opposite trend. Is there a possibility that some telomere lengthening strategies could induce cancers? Yes, it's definitely possible. But I don't think we're going to see that through meditation Ride. Perhaps in the future we will be able to scientifically evaluate meditators with extended lives and see if there is a correlation. So it's interesting and fertile ground for those of us interested in meditation, life extension, maintaining health--or with some forms of meditation, suspended animation, which could make distant space travel reasonable. It's as if a certain Buddhist is promoting the benefits of his practice the way TMO and MAPI promote benefits. Was I referring to my practice? You suck as a mind reader. I was referring to science on two certain forms of meditation, not why god or unicorns or gremlins allegedly designed our cells or anything having to do with what the TMO or MAPI does. You promote this Buddhist meditation endlessly. That is your practice. God is used generically as the agent, be it evolution, random chance, intelligent creation, that resulted in the body's design as it is. Unfortunately for your opinion, it is wrong. I do not practice Mindfulness Meditation. There is a lot of research on Mindfulness Meditation. Some of it is good. Good meditation research does interest me. So I can see where you're confused Ride.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip She was here to give a talk last night at a large con- ference on the empowerment of women in business, or something like that. Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the empowerment of women in business? Why do women have to have a special conference of their own to hear about how to empower themselves? Are there any conferences for men only about how they can empower themselves? The very notion of empowerment automatically implies its opposite, an existing lack of power. snip Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to mention men even once. What she spoke about was success and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred- ibility because the companies she created made her a millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the women at the conference could do to become successful themselves. It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of women about female empowerment means women have things they must overcome before they can become successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist. That there have to be conferences for women only about how they can empower themselves to achieve success in business, when there are no such conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words about sexism and misogyny. But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about how women can empower themselves, and talk about how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor is one more real feminism than the other. They're two sides to the same coin. But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how to empower themselves to overcome it. First, though, they need to *recognize* it in themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously down that river in Egypt. snip But interestingly enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The past never came up period, because for both of us the things we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to squeeze in. A different topic, but that last sentence is just too funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum. Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately. (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he was putting up a couple of real feminists while they gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how they made a special arrangement for him to attend a party for the participants where he stood in the back of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points in the context of a *very* similar situation to the one he describes above.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons, you might say, to wonder about this garbage... 3 excellent reasons, in fact. Six, actually. :-) Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh... told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff above about real vs. natural also says that natural is always better. :-) Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, Now *that's* what I'm jealous of! As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to get over. especially as compared to the women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of success. Good idea. Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee and a cinnamon roll. Whatever works, as far as I can tell. All I know is that when she first started trying to become a success in the computer industry my friend went the workaholic and serious route. She worked 70+ hours a week, barely slept, never dated because she felt she didn't have time to, and almost never had any fun. The fascinating thing was that, as talented as she was, nothing was working in her business...it wasn't making any money. I was concerned enough about her to forcibly drag her out of the house one night and take her out for a pity movie, because she so obviously needed one. After the movie, we ran into Rama, who had been in the same movie, although we hadn't noticed him. He took one look at her and said, You are a fucking mess. You need to *chill*, girl. Don't come to any seminars [which at that point were held every week] until you have gotten laid a couple of dozen times and gotten drunk or stoned or whatever you used to do for fun and lightened up. Whatever you are doing is not *working*. So try something else. My friend was *far* more of a Rama TB than I was, so she took this stuff seriously. So seriously that she was at the next week's seminar, having done everything he suggested :-), and looking like a completely different person. It was as if she had dropped ten years off her age and all the darkness from her aura. Interestingly enough, that's when her business took off. She never went back to being a worka- holic, and made sure to maintain a balance between work and fun from then on, and the bucks started flowing in. Within a year she sold that first company for a million bucks and started another one. So when she tells women that LIGHTENING UP can help them to succeed, she is speaking from experience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip She was here to give a talk last night at a large con- ference on the empowerment of women in business, or something like that. Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the empowerment of women in business? Why do women have to have a special conference of their own to hear about how to empower themselves? Are there any conferences for men only about how they can empower themselves? The very notion of empowerment automatically implies its opposite, an existing lack of power. snip Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to mention men even once. What she spoke about was success and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred- ibility because the companies she created made her a millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the women at the conference could do to become successful themselves. It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of women about female empowerment means women have things they must overcome before they can become successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist. That there have to be conferences for women only about how they can empower themselves to achieve success in business, when there are no such conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words about sexism and misogyny. But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about how women can empower themselves, and talk about how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor is one more real feminism than the other. They're two sides to the same coin. But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how to empower themselves to overcome it. First, though, they need to *recognize* it in themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously down that river in Egypt. snip But interestingly enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The past never came up period, because for both of us the things we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to squeeze in. A different topic, but that last sentence is just too funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum. Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately. (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he was putting up a couple of real feminists while they gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how they made a special arrangement for him to attend a party for the participants where he stood in the back of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points in the context of a *very* similar situation to the one he describes above.) Yep, I remember the last women's conference Barry said he attended as a special guest and thought of it as I read this all too familiar theme. As I recall at the last conference he said the women were dressed to the nines. What I want to know is, how does he keep getting into these women's conferences unless he's going in drag? The only thing different about this post is the banter about boobs on the beach. The question now is, who is the bigger boob?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) Well actually I've often wondered if guys are generally turned on by women who have had significant plastic surgery--I can't imagine they are. I know in reverse that few things for myself are more off-putting than hearing that a guy has used steroids or other artificial body aids. It just ain't sexy. Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I found it on You Tube--or at least one, with the guys from Iceland--and I agree...almost preternatural. Along those same lines (ha! NPI) have you checked out what Judy Collins has done lately to her once- beautiful face? And supposedly directors don't even like to work with Nicole Kidman or Cher anymore because their faces are basically frozen in perpetual smiles... real emotions are almost impossible to convey when you've had that much junk injected. As Curtis said, it's hard to believe people think this makes them look better. This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons, you might say, to wonder about this garbage... 3 excellent reasons, in fact. Six, actually. :-) Well I was thinking of everything you could get done. Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh... told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff above about real vs. natural also says that natural is always better. :-) Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, Now *that's* what I'm jealous of! As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to get over. Yeah. We got everything here except what really counts. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) The technology is constantly improving. There are implants now which are adjustable. Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots. Hey, just look at how people have engineered themselves to look today compared to, say, the 1950s. Remember the Superman Series? The people truly looked like they lived on the type of breakfasts that that family in Pleasantville ate every morning. People were top heavy and pasty. Today, the young people are 6-pack-ab like with golden complexions. People today truly look good.
