Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams

Maybe I should rephrase what I said:

Only a nerd would post to FFL, using Windows, Android or any other 
software, whether a PC, a tablet, or a phone.


If you're using Google Android on your phone, wouldn't it make sense to 
view FFL using Google Chrome and Google Mail? Go figure.


On 11/28/2013 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


Windows Yahoo?  Since when is Yahoo just Windows?  It's a web site not 
peculiar to Windows at all.   Why would I want to download emails just 
to look at FFL?  You aren't making any sense, Richard.  Go figure.


On 11/28/2013 04:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view 
Windows Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same 
messages using free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure.


 On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has
 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want.
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-)



Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like 
whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument with Android 
developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the 
menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep. Each 
Intent is really like a little app in itself.  To have to press 
the back key several times to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the 
Google tech writing engineers seem to have limited experience in 
real world software development.


Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game 
development platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to make 
one extravagant demo of their new 2D library.  Problem is there are 
really just a few things experienced developers needed to know to 
get up and running using it but wading through that extravagant demo 
to find those points was a bit overkill.  But sure as hell don't 
criticize Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over 
you.  I suspect they will role out a very simple example eventually 
as had to do that with their 3D engine.












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
Ahem!  Reread time.  The browser used in the screenshot was indeed 
Google Chrome on Android.  Figure it out.


Interesting thing on Linux (I don't read FFL on Windows) was that Chrome 
wouldn't let me insert the HTML code for the pictures. Firefox worked 
though.  Now I think I'll port that app for Base64 encoding to Android 
so I can use it on the go.  Should be easy since it is written in C# and 
I'll just compile on Xamarin with a couple changes for the Android 
interface.


On 11/29/2013 11:44 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Maybe I should rephrase what I said:

Only a nerd would post to FFL, using Windows, Android or any other 
software, whether a PC, a tablet, or a phone.


If you're using Google Android on your phone, wouldn't it make sense 
to view FFL using Google Chrome and Google Mail? Go figure.


On 11/28/2013 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


Windows Yahoo?  Since when is Yahoo just Windows?  It's a web site 
not peculiar to Windows at all.   Why would I want to download emails 
just to look at FFL?  You aren't making any sense, Richard.  Go figure.


On 11/28/2013 04:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view 
Windows Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same 
messages using free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure.


 On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the start screen 
which has

 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want.
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new 
variety of

tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-)



Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like 
whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument with Android 
developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in 
the menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep.  Each 
Intent is really like a little app in itself. To have to press 
the back key several times to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the 
Google tech writing engineers seem to have limited experience in 
real world software development.


Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game 
development platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to make 
one extravagant demo of their new 2D library.  Problem is there are 
really just a few things experienced developers needed to know to 
get up and running using it but wading through that extravagant 
demo to find those points was a bit overkill. But sure as hell 
don't criticize Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get 
all over you. I suspect they will role out a very simple example 
eventually as had to do that with their 3D engine.














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-28 Thread Richard J. Williams
Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view Windows 
Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same messages using 
free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure.


 On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has
 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want.
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-)



Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like 
whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument with Android 
developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the 
menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep.  Each 
Intent is really like a little app in itself.  To have to press the 
back key several times to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the Google tech 
writing engineers seem to have limited experience in real world 
software development.


Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game 
development platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to make one 
extravagant demo of their new 2D library.  Problem is there are really 
just a few things experienced developers needed to know to get up and 
running using it but wading through that extravagant demo to find 
those points was a bit overkill.  But sure as hell don't criticize 
Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over you.  I 
suspect they will role out a very simple example eventually as had to 
do that with their 3D engine.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-28 Thread Share Long
Richard, most of us on FFL are nerds! Or at least introverts! Happy 
Thanksgiving to you and Rita and family (-:





On Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:32 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view Windows Yahoo 
on an Android phone when they could get the same messages using free Google 
Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure.

 On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

  
On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading
  on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message
  history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the
  start screen which has
 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as
  far as you want. 
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider
  display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return
  messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the
  hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so
  I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens
  these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like
  a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the
  same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'.
  :-) :-) :-)


Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods
like whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument
with Android developers that it might WELL be appropriate to
put an exit in the menu if your app goes several layers
(or Intents) deep.  Each Intent is really like a little
app in itself.  To have to press the back key several times
to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the Google tech writing
engineers seem to have limited experience in real world
software development.

Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game
development platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to
make one extravagant demo of their new 2D library.  Problem
is there are really just a few things experienced developers
needed to know to get up and running using it but wading
through that extravagant demo to find those points was a bit
overkill.  But sure as hell don't criticize Unity3D over it
as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over you.  I suspect
they will role out a very simple example eventually as had
to do that with their 3D engine.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-28 Thread Bhairitu
Windows Yahoo?  Since when is Yahoo just Windows?  It's a web site not 
peculiar to Windows at all. Why would I want to download emails just to 
look at FFL?  You aren't making any sense, Richard.  Go figure.


On 11/28/2013 04:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view 
Windows Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same 
messages using free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure.


 On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has
 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want.
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-)



Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like 
whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument with Android 
developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the 
menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep.  Each 
Intent is really like a little app in itself.  To have to press the 
back key several times to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the Google 
tech writing engineers seem to have limited experience in real world 
software development.


Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game 
development platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to make one 
extravagant demo of their new 2D library.  Problem is there are 
really just a few things experienced developers needed to know to get 
up and running using it but wading through that extravagant demo to 
find those points was a bit overkill.  But sure as hell don't 
criticize Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over 
you.  I suspect they will role out a very simple example eventually 
as had to do that with their 3D engine.










[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I'm seeing one (1) screenshot. It looks incredibly claustrophobic,
especially given that the size of the screenshot is much bigger than
what you'd see in real life if you were looking at the phone.

  I was hoping you'd have a screenshot of a post, preferably one
showing a post with a message history so we could see how the formatting
works on a mobile.


Post a screenshot of the How do I have an argument on this? topic from
the Online Help, too.  :-)


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@ wrote:

  I'll try this again.  Here are a couple of  screenshots of FFL on an
Android smartphone for those who don't have a mobile device:





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu  wrote:

 Here you go.  Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face.  As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected.  The first image was the start screen which has
 the banner.  You can scroll down the messages as far as you want. 
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'.   :-)  :-)  :-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile

2013-11-27 Thread Bhairitu

On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote:

 Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a
few
 inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option
 which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has
 the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want.
Also
 the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter
 display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages).

You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as
the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-)

You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that
the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I
changed.

As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of
tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's
been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-)



Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like 
whatever they do is right.  I had a long argument with Android 
developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the 
menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep.  Each Intent 
is really like a little app in itself.  To have to press the back key 
several times to exit is a bit rude.  Most of the Google tech writing 
engineers seem to have limited experience in real world software 
development.


Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game development 
platform Unity3D.  The company felt compelled to make one extravagant 
demo of their new 2D library.  Problem is there are really just a few 
things experienced developers needed to know to get up and running using 
it but wading through that extravagant demo to find those points was a 
bit overkill.  But sure as hell don't criticize Unity3D over it as the 
cranky dweeb fans will get all over you.  I suspect they will role out a 
very simple example eventually as had to do that with their 3D engine.