[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
> > Isn't it fascinating that she and Lawson have chosen
> > the path of "Let's spend post after post ragging on
> > Barry and maybe no one will notice that we have not
> > said a word about the 'Maharishi and the Money' issue?"
> >
>From what I've read, Barry donated thousands of dollars to 
the TMO and after that thousands more to the Rama guy. 
Apparently, Barry has spent probably over 50,000 dollars 
on cult activity since 1967. So, if the amount of money a 
person donates to cults is any indication of a person's 
spiritualty, then Barry must be on the level of a saint. 
Now that Barry is broke and old, sure he wants to know 
what happened to all the money! But what he should be so
worried about, is what happened to his life, and how is he
going to afford a nursing home with no money.

"So when you claimed all the $5,000 covered was being 
"ushered into a room containing nothing but $14.95 worth 
of wiring and cheap, one-ear transistor radio headphones 
plugged into a tape recorder and then listened to Maharishi 
give us the technique," that wasn't correct. The $5,000 
*also* covered your room and board for however long you 
were in residence."

Read more: 

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Judy Stein
Date: Wed, Aug 6 2003
Subject: Re: A question for Uncle Tantra about intuition
http://tinyurl.com/6oxq95

Judy wrote:
> Anybody but Barry think it's fascinating that Lawson
> and I (and a lot of others) don't feel the need to
> play chorus to the umpteenth iteration of the same
> verse just to feed Barry's insatiable need for
> reinforcement of his self-importance?
> 
> In other words:
> 
> 
> 
> As Shemp and Alex both pointed out, the "Maharishi and
> the Money" issue has been discussed *endlessly* on FFL
> and alt.m.t and other TM-related forums, probably more
> than any other. That Barry thinks it's a hot topic
> everyone is urgently required to weigh in on at this
> point is peculiar, to say the least. He sounds like a
> newbie who hasn't bothered to read any of the traffic,
> except that *his own posts* on the issue comprise a
> significant chunk of that traffic.
> 
> In any case, he already asked his burning question in
> negative form:
> 
> "Let's phrase it a different way. Is there ANYONE here
> who believes that how much money you have is a valid
> indicator of your spiritual evolution? Anyone?"
> 
> Nobody responded with a "Yes!" But somehow that wasn't
> enough for Barry; in his mind, we were all required to
> defend the view that we *didn't* believe that:
> 
> "If not, why did you put up with a movement that was
> structured around that idea for so many years?"
> 
> Which was kind of a strange question with reference
> to Lawson and myself, given that Barry put up with 
> a movement structured around that idea for years with
> a far greater degree of involvement than either of us
> had. (I asked him how many years it had been, to no
> response, of course.)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Spoken like the silly bitch that you are.
> 
> As a way of avoiding dealing with the "The Tragedy 
> Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution" post.
> 
> Isn't it fascinating that she and Lawson have chosen
> the path of "Let's spend post after post ragging on
> Barry and maybe no one will notice that we have not
> said a word about the 'Maharishi and the Money' issue?"

Anybody but Barry think it's fascinating that Lawson
and I (and a lot of others) don't feel the need to
play chorus to the umpteenth iteration of the same
verse just to feed Barry's insatiable need for
reinforcement of his self-importance?

In other words:



As Shemp and Alex both pointed out, the "Maharishi and
the Money" issue has been discussed *endlessly* on FFL
and alt.m.t and other TM-related forums, probably more
than any other. That Barry thinks it's a hot topic
everyone is urgently required to weigh in on at this
point is peculiar, to say the least. He sounds like a
newbie who hasn't bothered to read any of the traffic,
except that *his own posts* on the issue comprise a
significant chunk of that traffic.

In any case, he already asked his burning question in
negative form:

"Let's phrase it a different way. Is there ANYONE here
who believes that how much money you have is a valid
indicator of your spiritual evolution? Anyone?"

Nobody responded with a "Yes!" But somehow that wasn't
enough for Barry; in his mind, we were all required to
defend the view that we *didn't* believe that:

"If not, why did you put up with a movement that was
structured around that idea for so many years?"

Which was kind of a strange question with reference
to Lawson and myself, given that Barry put up with 
a movement structured around that idea for years with
a far greater degree of involvement than either of us
had. (I asked him how many years it had been, to no
response, of course.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Spoken like the silly bitch that you are.

As a way of avoiding dealing with the "The Tragedy 
Of Knowledge: Equating Wealth With Evolution" post.

Isn't it fascinating that she and Lawson have chosen
the path of "Let's spend post after post ragging on
Barry and maybe no one will notice that we have not
said a word about the 'Maharishi and the Money' issue?"

Seems that even the "defenders of the faith" don't
want to get involved with the money issue. Could it
possibly be that even they know that MMY's and TMO's
stance with regard to the importance that money had
for him was indefensible?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/186501

It's easy to ignore the barbs from these yahoos as 
the distractions they are. What's surprising is how 
cowardly the True Believers get when someone points 
out what exactly they believe in.





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
> > > > to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
> > > > at this..."
> > > > 
> > > > --Barry Wright, 7/23/08
> > > 
> > > My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as
> > > much as possible, while reserving the right to
> > > make fun of her any time I want, and encourage
> > > others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to
> > > laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down
> > > the team lately.
> > > 
> > > -- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008
> > > 
> > > ( The silly bitch has my permission to use this
> > > new quote any time she wants. )
> > 
> > Can I use it the next time you vow you're 
> > going to say nothing to me or about me?
> > 
> > Or does the above amount to swearing that you
> > aren't ever going to make that vow again?
> > 
> > If so, good move, but one you should have made
> > a long time ago, since making and breaking it
> > over and over again really made you look quite
> > silly.
> > 
> > So...now that you've admitted the truth--that
> > you don't have the self-discipline to refrain
> > from talking to or about me--might this be a
> > sign that you're ready to begin to acknowledge
> > all your other lies (starting with those you
> > tell about yourself)?
> > 
> > That would be such a hopeful development. Maybe
> > the Maharishi Effect really *is* working!
> >
> Spoken like the silly bitch that you are.

Good *boy*! Now, here comes a cracker. Sit!
What a good boy!





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > "My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
> > > to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
> > > at this..."
> > > 
> > > --Barry Wright, 7/23/08
> > 
> > My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as
> > much as possible, while reserving the right to
> > make fun of her any time I want, and encourage
> > others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to
> > laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down
> > the team lately.
> > 
> > -- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008
> > 
> > ( The silly bitch has my permission to use this
> > new quote any time she wants. )
> 
> Can I use it the next time you vow you're 
> going to say nothing to me or about me?
> 
> Or does the above amount to swearing that you
> aren't ever going to make that vow again?
> 
> If so, good move, but one you should have made
> a long time ago, since making and breaking it
> over and over again really made you look quite
> silly.
> 
> So...now that you've admitted the truth--that
> you don't have the self-discipline to refrain
> from talking to or about me--might this be a
> sign that you're ready to begin to acknowledge
> all your other lies (starting with those you
> tell about yourself)?
> 
> That would be such a hopeful development. Maybe
> the Maharishi Effect really *is* working!
>
Spoken like the silly bitch that you are.



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > >  wrote:

> > > > Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some
> > > > kind of duel going on between post count programs. I'm
> > > > trying to take over the post count duty from Bhairitu,
> > > > using his PHP script, and we're just working out the
> > > > kinks. 
> > > 
> > > Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. 
> > 
> > Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this
> > important piece of information?
> 
> We've cracked the code: he uess smilies when he's serious
> and forgets them when he's joking...

No no no. Barry has already graciously explained to
us that when he uses a smiley face, it means he's
laughing at what he's writing.

So we are to interpret the lack of a smiley face in
this instance to mean that he was joking about the
software duel, but the joke wasn't funny.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post
> > > > counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. 
> > > 
> > > Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of 
> duel
> > > going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the 
> > > post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're 
> just 
> > > working out the kinks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. 
> 
> 
> 
> Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this important 
> piece of information?
> 

We've cracked the code: he uess smilies when he's serious and forgets 
them when he's joking...


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters
> and found it a model of civility and good sense. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
>  You've even got "dueling post
> > count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> > and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> > correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> > 
> > This place is a ZOO.
>

Insight into how Unca T interprets things, perhaps?


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> > And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he 
> > said that he never reads MY posts...
> 
> "If one changes one's mind for some reason, that 
> doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie."  
> -- Judy Stein, 19 July 2008

Ooops, non sequitur. Shemp didn't say you had lied,
nor did I, with regard to not reading our posts.

We're both making fun of your tendency to posture,
you see, to pretend to be above it all, when in
fact it's just an excuse to avoid dealing with it
when you get nailed and you can't come up with a
what you think is a snappy comeback.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> wrote:
> [snipsy]
> > And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he (Turq)
> said that he never reads MY posts, 
> [/endsnipsy]
> 
> Oh you too?! I got that treatment. Is it a copy 'n' paste he has? 
All
> the same it chills the soul, no? The ultimate ***Turq Sanction***. 
You
> get to feel how folks must have felt when they were threatened with
> excommunication by the Pope. It's like being exiled to some sort of
> twilight world sandwiched between bardos! (I may have got my 
esoteric
> metaphysics screwed on that. If so, please excuse me.) 
> 
> But did that still, small voice ever whisper to you - he wasn't
> reading your posts anyway? I suspect his upload bytes are much, much
> more significant to him than his download bytes...
>


In this regard Barry reminds me of a cartoon from Playboy back in 
the '70s: a woman has called the police who have arrived at her 
appartment.  She had called to complain that a couple in the next 
building left their window open while they made love.  But the cops 
peered out the window and couldn't see anything except an appartment 
building about 1/2 a mile away. And the woman is holding a pair of 
binoculars and says to the cops: "Of course you can't see them...you 
have to use these!"

Barry loves to sneer down on us, the little people, and tell us that 
he will, henseforth, no longer lower himself by reading our posts. 
But then, of course, he obsessively reads every one of them.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hugo
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:40 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as
loons

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hugo"  
wrote:

> There are days when logging on to read FFL
> feels like reading the deleted chapters from
> "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest."

On my first day working at an academy I was excited
to be going into the presence of so many enlightened 
beings. It was a bit of a shock when I got there, my
first thought was that it was a cross between One Flew
Over The Cuckoos Nest and the Addams Family.

I presume you mean a TM academy. I've been dealing with this issue too. I
look back at various periods in my TM history and see myself as being really
nuts. Then again, I wasn't too sane before learning TM, and I'm still glad I
did it. But these days, seeing my nuttiness more clearly seems to be part of
a process of rooting it out once and for all. Let's hope.



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he 
> said that he never reads MY posts...

"If one changes one's mind for some reason, that 
doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie."  
-- Judy Stein, 19 July 2008

Old news, Shemp. At this point, the only person
whose posts I hit 'Next' on the moment they appear
is Willytex. Everyone else I give a break to and
read the first three or four lines before I hit
'Next.' If it's amusing, or the person is making
an absolute ass of themselves, I might read even
more. If it makes you feel any better, you have
made it to "absolute ass" status several times
lately, so I've read each of those posts all the
way through. Don't you feel more appreciated now?





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Of the seven claims Barry just made "proving"
> > that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four
> > of them...
> 
> ...not to mention the fact that Barry is the only one who
> claims to have actually witnessed levitation floating...
> something he claims to have seen on numerous occasions.
> 
> He himself is a delusional cult-member.

Don't know about cult-member unless it's the Cult
of Barry, and it's never really been clear whether
he's delusional and really believes what he says,
or is very well aware that he lies constantly.

If it's the latter, he's still delusional in that
he has convinced himself nobody will see through
the lies--just like John Edwards, Bill Clinton,
Elliott Spitzer, et al. Except that Barry doesn't
have the excuse that he's constantly surrounded
by grinning sycophants who tell him he's
invulnerable (well, there's Geeze...).

He's always lied, but he used to do a better job
of it, at least.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:31 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as
loons

 

> On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out 
in about a
> year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will 
contain.
> Stay tuned.
>

Will there be pictures? You know, of the "in flagrante delicto" 
variety...

There will be pictures, but not that kind.



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snipsy]
> And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he (Turq)
said that he never reads MY posts, 
[/endsnipsy]

Oh you too?! I got that treatment. Is it a copy 'n' paste he has? All
the same it chills the soul, no? The ultimate ***Turq Sanction***. You
get to feel how folks must have felt when they were threatened with
excommunication by the Pope. It's like being exiled to some sort of
twilight world sandwiched between bardos! (I may have got my esoteric
metaphysics screwed on that. If so, please excuse me.) 

But did that still, small voice ever whisper to you - he wasn't
reading your posts anyway? I suspect his upload bytes are much, much
more significant to him than his download bytes...



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as 
loons
> 
>  
> 
> You've got people trying
> to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> published the book they're not going to believe
> a word of anyway. 
> 
> On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out 
in about a
> year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will 
contain.
> Stay tuned.

Most definitely will. Assure them it will have a big readership.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  
wrote:

 
> There are days when logging on to read FFL
> feels like reading the deleted chapters from
> "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest."

On my first day working at an academy I was excited
to be going into the presence of so many enlightened 
beings. It was a bit of a shock when I got there, my
first thought was that it was a cross between One Flew
Over The Cuckoos Nest and the Addams Family.

And before anyone thinks I'm slagging off loads of my
friends, I fitted right in!

So, after all I've seen and heard in the TMO I agree
with the new title of this thread: The TMO is as crazy
as a box of frogs.

I think the key part of getting over any madness is to 
realise you're insane. I like to think I've managed that
but how am I supposed to know for sure? Maybe Nabby is 
the sanest guy here. Maybe sanity is overrated anyway.


> This place is a ZOO.

Save me a place in the monkey house.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that 
> will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints.

It sounded a bit harsh Nabby but it really does perfectly describe the
whole life of Maharishis Mahesh Yogi.

You do believe Guru Dev was a saint right?




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as 
> loons
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > You've got people trying
> > to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> > published the book they're not going to believe
> > a word of anyway. 
> > 
> > On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out 
> in about a
> > year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will 
> contain.
> > Stay tuned.
> 
> Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that 
> will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post
> > > counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. 
> > 
> > Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of 
duel
> > going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the 
> > post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're 
just 
> > working out the kinks. 
> 
> 
> Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. 



Did you use a smiley face emoticon in order to convey this important 
piece of information?




> 
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > > >
> > >  You've even got "dueling post
> > > > count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> > > > and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> > > > correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> > > > 
> > > > This place is a ZOO.
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as 
loons
> 
>  
> 
> You've got people trying
> to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> published the book they're not going to believe
> a word of anyway. 
> 
> On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out 
in about a
> year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will 
contain.
> Stay tuned.
>

Will there be pictures?  You know, of the "in flagrante delicto" 
variety...




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > There are days when logging on to read FFL
> > feels like reading the deleted chapters from
> > "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest."
> > 
> > I mean, you've got Nabby claiming that he 
> > teaches animals to meditate (probably while
> > hovering over them while flying), you've got
> > Bevan claiming not only that the ME does some-
> > thing -- anything -- but that its real effect
> > is to destroy non-organic crops, you've got
> > Bob saying that the destruction of the Georgian
> > population is "no big deal."
> 
> Uh, no, Bob didn't say that. By "no big deal," he
> meant that it won't become a "major international
> issue," although it would, of course, be a disaster
> for the victims of the war.
> 
>  You've got Nabby
> > saying "The Movement is always right" and those
> > who claim that their purpose is to expose lies
> > on this forum saying absolutely *nothing* in
> > response to that claim.
> 
> I'm supposed to respond to my own claim?? How
> does that work, exactly?
> 
>  You've got people trying
> > to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> > published the book they're not going to believe
> > a word of anyway.
> 
> Uh, no, nobody demonized Rick. The person being
> "demonized" is the one who told Rick she was
> going to write the book.
> 
>  You've even got "dueling post
> > count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> > and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> > correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> 
> Actually, the person running one of the programs
> has said the other program is to be taken as
> correct until he fixes his so they both have the
> same counts.
> 
> > This place is a ZOO.
>  
> Of the seven claims Barry just made "proving"
> that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four
> of them...



...not to mention the fact that Barry is the only one who claims to 
have actually witnessed levitation floating...something he claims to 
have seen on numerous occasions.

He himself is a delusional cult-member.




> 
> > All that anyone would ever have to do to counter
> > the claims that TM produces an increased ability
> > to think rationally is to suggest that people 
> > read FFL and point out to the readers which of 
> > the posters are regular TM practitioners.
> 
> ...and of the three he got right, one was not
> made by a member of FFL, and the other two were
> made by the *same* TM practitioner.
> 
> Leaving Barry with only *one* FFL TM practitioner
> on whom to base his claim that TM doesn't produce
> an increased ability to think rationally--which,
> it would appear, is balanced out by Barry's own
> propensity to hallucinate and blame his
> hallucinations on others.
> 
> Oh, yes, and:
> 
> "My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
> to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
> at this..."
> 
> --Barry Wright, 7/23/08


And I wish that I would have earmarked the post in which he said that 
he never reads MY posts, which he obviously does with earnest 
regularity because the reference above to asking Rick about the book 
was an obvious reference to my post on the subject.

Please keep reproducing the above Barry Wright quote, Judy, each time 
you have to respond to him.  It's precious.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:58 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as 
loons
> 
>  
> 
> You've got people trying
> to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> published the book they're not going to believe
> a word of anyway. 
> 
> On this note, I received a response that there will be a book out 
in about a
> year. I'm not at liberty to say who's writing it or what it will 
contain.
> Stay tuned.

Wrong. There will be many books. This world is full of toads that 
will like to make a few bucks on the life of Saints.




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > > This place is a ZOO.
> >  
> > Of the seven claims Barry just made "proving"
> > that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four
> > of them...
> 
> If this is a zoo then that Turq fits in real fine. :-)

Absolutely. 

You know that old rule of thumb about why you
shouldn't get too near to the monkey cages, right?






[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This place is a ZOO.
>  
> Of the seven claims Barry just made "proving"
> that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four
> of them...

If this is a zoo then that Turq fits in real fine. :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post
> > counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. 
> 
> Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel
> going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the 
> post count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just 
> working out the kinks. 


Uh...that part of my post was a JOKE, guys. 


> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> >  You've even got "dueling post
> > > count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> > > and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> > > correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> > > 
> > > This place is a ZOO.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post
> counters and found it a model of civility and good sense. 

Barry has *got* to be joking if he thinks there's some kind of duel
going on between post count programs. I'm trying to take over the post
count duty from Bhairitu, using his PHP script, and we're just working
out the kinks. We tried to sync my script with his, using his data
file, and my hunch is that his *nix-generated hdrs08092008.txt file
didn't work right on my Windows machine (the formatting is a little
different). It seems like there are some slight differences between
PHP running on *nix vs. PHP running on Windows, and I betcha that the
script running on my machine will work just fine, starting on Friday,
with the beginning of a new week cycle.
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
>  You've even got "dueling post
> > count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> > and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> > correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> > 
> > This place is a ZOO.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread feste37
Truth watch: I just read the exchange between the two post counters
and found it a model of civility and good sense. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
 You've even got "dueling post
> count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.
> 
> This place is a ZOO.





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > "My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
> > to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
> > at this..."
> > 
> > --Barry Wright, 7/23/08
> 
> My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as
> much as possible, while reserving the right to
> make fun of her any time I want, and encourage
> others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to
> laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down
> the team lately.
> 
> -- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008
> 
> ( The silly bitch has my permission to use this
> new quote any time she wants. )

Can I use it the next time you vow you're 
going to say nothing to me or about me?

Or does the above amount to swearing that you
aren't ever going to make that vow again?

If so, good move, but one you should have made
a long time ago, since making and breaking it
over and over again really made you look quite
silly.

So...now that you've admitted the truth--that
you don't have the self-discipline to refrain
from talking to or about me--might this be a
sign that you're ready to begin to acknowledge
all your other lies (starting with those you
tell about yourself)?

That would be such a hopeful development. Maybe
the Maharishi Effect really *is* working!




[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
> to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
> at this..."
> 
> --Barry Wright, 7/23/08

My new plan is to ignore the silly bitch as
much as possible, while reserving the right to
make fun of her any time I want, and encourage
others to do the same. It is a sacred duty to
laugh at insanity, and I've been letting down
the team lately.

-- Barry Wright, 8/11/2008

( The silly bitch has my permission to use this
new quote any time she wants. )





[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL as proof that TM makes people crazy as loons

2008-08-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are days when logging on to read FFL
> feels like reading the deleted chapters from
> "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest."
> 
> I mean, you've got Nabby claiming that he 
> teaches animals to meditate (probably while
> hovering over them while flying), you've got
> Bevan claiming not only that the ME does some-
> thing -- anything -- but that its real effect
> is to destroy non-organic crops, you've got
> Bob saying that the destruction of the Georgian
> population is "no big deal."

Uh, no, Bob didn't say that. By "no big deal," he
meant that it won't become a "major international
issue," although it would, of course, be a disaster
for the victims of the war.

 You've got Nabby
> saying "The Movement is always right" and those
> who claim that their purpose is to expose lies
> on this forum saying absolutely *nothing* in
> response to that claim.

I'm supposed to respond to my own claim?? How
does that work, exactly?

 You've got people trying
> to demonize Rick because someone *else* hasn't
> published the book they're not going to believe
> a word of anyway.

Uh, no, nobody demonized Rick. The person being
"demonized" is the one who told Rick she was
going to write the book.

 You've even got "dueling post
> count programs," fighting it out for supremacy
> and shouting, "You're a LIAR -- MY count is
> correct and yours is WRONG" at each other.

Actually, the person running one of the programs
has said the other program is to be taken as
correct until he fixes his so they both have the
same counts.

> This place is a ZOO.
 
Of the seven claims Barry just made "proving"
that this place is a ZOO, he hallucinated four
of them...

> All that anyone would ever have to do to counter
> the claims that TM produces an increased ability
> to think rationally is to suggest that people 
> read FFL and point out to the readers which of 
> the posters are regular TM practitioners.

...and of the three he got right, one was not
made by a member of FFL, and the other two were
made by the *same* TM practitioner.

Leaving Barry with only *one* FFL TM practitioner
on whom to base his claim that TM doesn't produce
an increased ability to think rationally--which,
it would appear, is balanced out by Barry's own
propensity to hallucinate and blame his
hallucinations on others.

Oh, yes, and:

"My plan is to lay low, and say nothing either
to [Judy] or about her. I may or may not succeed
at this..."

--Barry Wright, 7/23/08