[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a TMO poster boy worthy of being one
Clint is also a Republican, respects private property, doubt that he would agree with what you think he would. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The following photo and quote were tweeted by bad movie critic Richard Roeper the other day, synthesized from an interview in GQ with the speaker. I hope this shoves a big, Dirty Harry-sized corncob up the ass of homophobes everywhere: [http://i.huffpost.com/gen/401232/thumbs/s-CLINT-EASTWOOD-GAY-MARRIAGE-l\ arge300.jpg] I'm Clint Fucking Eastwood, and this is what I have to say about gay marriage. BRAVO. The actual money quote was: These people who are making a big deal out of gay marriage? I don't give a fuck about who wants to get married to anybody else! Why not?! We're making a big deal out of things we shouldn't be making a deal out of. They go on and on with all this bullshit about 'sanctity' -- don't give me that sanctity crap! Just give everybody the chance to have the life they want. Try to imagine what Clint would say if he found out that a bunch of fat men wearing dresses and gold crowns were declaring his fellow meditators equally unsanctified and unwelcome in the domes, for the sin of visiting spiritual teachers other than Maharishi. Who, incidentally, is DEAD, and thus not giving the best spiritual advice lately. Based on only meeting him once, and very briefly, I can easily see Clint walking up to the dome door guard, being asked for his dome pass, pulling back his suit coat to reveal the 44 Magnum tucked into his belt, and saying, Go ahead...make my day, as he walks past the blissnazi and goes inside. And if he did -- or if *anyone* did the same thing and made it public, all of this banning horseshit would be over forever. It would be like Rick's story of Bevan getting whupped to the ground by an angry husband and being too much of a pussy to ever do anything about it. The thing that enables spiritual nazis to keep getting away with being spiritual nazis is allowing them to keep their actions hidden. Bitching about it on an Internet forum read by at most 50 people don't do shit. If you don't like the policy, challenge it, and bring a couple of reporters and a film crew with you. Anything else is silent agreement with the nazis' right to do what they're doing. My best Clint moment in the TMO was on an ATR course in Switzerland. For some reason, I was given a nice room on the fourth floor -- sunny, spacious, and with a private bath. After a few days there, the course got a new German course leader. I guess he didn't like the room that had been assigned to him, so he decided to take mine. I came back from lunch one day to find that he had entered my room, packed up all my stuff and put it into my suitcase, and placed it outside the door, along with a note that said, I am the new course leader. I am taking this room. You have been moved to another room on the first floor. A key to the new room was lying on top of the note. But I still had the key to my original room. So, after knocking and finding it empty, I quietly opened the door and moved back in. I gathered up all of the course leader's things, not bothering to pack them, walked over to the window, and threw them out. I remember his puja set making a really pleasing clanking sound as it hit the pavement below. Then I moved back into my room, and did my afternoon's program, not mentioning the incident to anyone else. Interestingly, NO ONE ever mentioned it to me, either. The German nazi avoided me and all contact with me for the rest of the course, as did anyone else with any official capacity with the TMO. Buck, and others...stop bitching about the dome policies and just challenge them. Walk right past the blissnazis at the door, plop your ass down on the foam, and do your thing. See what happens. My bet is that if enough people did this, you wouldn't have to bitch on FFL any more. What, after all, are they going to DO to you? Call the cops, and then explain to them that they're keeping you out of the domes because you saw another teacher? Get real.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a TMO poster boy worthy of being one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Buck, and others...stop bitching about the dome policies and just challenge them. Walk right past the blissnazis at the door, plop your ass down on the foam, and do your thing. See what happens. My bet is that if enough people did this, you wouldn't have to bitch on FFL any more. What, after all, are they going to DO to you? Call the cops, and then explain to them that they're keeping you out of the domes because you saw another teacher? Get real. No, but since it is private property they can ask anyone they want to leave. And as much enjoyment as I would get out of hearing of it afterwards, the thought of anyone~~ including Buck's whiny ass~~getting arrested, esp for something so stupid, isn't something I would wish on anyone. My feeling is, it's their little kingdom, they can do whatever the hell with it they want to. As long s they confine their nonsense to property they own, I don't really think there's anything anyone can do. Seems like a letter to the editor would be somewhat more effective than trespassing anyway. Sal is absolutely 100 percent correct here, except that it isn't just her feeling, it's the legal reality. And Barry's lurid fantasies notwithstanding, it really isn't the sort of story that would make a splash on 60 Minutes. (Unless it was an armed Clint Eastwood who got arrested, maybe, but then the story would be about how Clint Eastwood's mind was failing.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a TMO poster boy worthy of being one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Buck, and others...stop bitching about the dome policies and just challenge them. Walk right past the blissnazis at the door, plop your ass down on the foam, and do your thing. See what happens. My bet is that if enough people did this, you wouldn't have to bitch on FFL any more. What, after all, are they going to DO to you? Call the cops, and then explain to them that they're keeping you out of the domes because you saw another teacher? Get real. No, but since it is private property they can ask anyone they want to leave. And as much enjoyment as I would get out of hearing of it afterwards, the thought of anyone~~ including Buck's whiny ass~~getting arrested, esp for something so stupid, isn't something I would wish on anyone. I do not disagree. I was suggesting what the radical Clint approach might be. I don't really think anyone would ever do it. My feeling is, it's their little kingdom, they can do whatever the hell with it they want to. As long s they confine their nonsense to property they own, I don't really think there's anything anyone can do. Seems like a letter to the editor would be somewhat more effective than trespassing anyway. Again, I do not disagree. But have any such letters to the editor ever been written? Or has it always been What happens within the kingdom stays in the kingdom? I ask because that's often a big issue with tight religious or social groups. One need think no further than the systematic coverup of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, but I saw similar stuff in the New Mexico Pueblos. The Pueblo people are very private, and very distrustful of non-Native Americans. Or even of Native Americans from other tribes or Pueblos. Thus they tend to keep their issues or problems in house and never share them with others, hoping that they can either fix things themselves or that they'll someday go away. For example, one of the Pueblos near Santa Fe had *epidemic* instances of drug abuse, and not party drugs, either. We're talking crystal meth and heroin. But they never said a word about it to State or Federal authorities, both of which had the resources and the manpower to help them -- and thus the members of their tribe -- fight the problem, or care for its victims. It finally took a series of Miami-like machine gun killings on the Pueblo for them to admit where the problem came from, and that its source was drugs. Only after the issue had gone public were they able to ask for help, and get it. I've seen essentially the same thing in spiritual communities. There is often a group dream, or idealized vision of what the community should be, or really is. Problem is that this does not always reflect the reality of the community. When it doesn't, the tendency in many groups is to cover it up, rather than go public and thus work towards fixing it. I guess all I'm suggesting is that a few such letters to the editor might enable those who feel strongly that essentially excommunicating from a spiritual community those who see other teachers is neither right nor spiritual to do something about it. Whereas talking about it only amongst ourselves kinda perpetuates the problem.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a TMO poster boy worthy of being one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I've seen essentially the same thing in spiritual communities. There is often a group dream, or idealized vision of what the community should be, or really is. Problem is that this does not always reflect the reality of the community. When it doesn't, the tendency in many groups is to cover it up, rather than go public and thus work towards fixing it. It's important to distinguish between communities in Fairfield. There's the TMO community, the MUM community, the TM (as opposed to TMO) community, the non-TM spiritual community, and the nonspiritual townie community, all within the Fairfield community at large, some overlapping. If you're thinking of go public as extending beyond the Fairfield community, you're just fantasizing. I guess all I'm suggesting is that a few such letters to the editor might enable those who feel strongly that essentially excommunicating from a spiritual community those who see other teachers is neither right nor spiritual to do something about it. Whereas talking about it only amongst ourselves kinda perpetuates the problem. Seems to me Buck's idea of a gathering of TM-Sidhis practitioners in the dome parking lots could be an effective basis for getting a public conversation going. (And let's try not to exaggerate. Being banned from the domes constitutes excommunication from the community of those who do their program in the domes, not from the TM community as a whole.)
