Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
Curtis, Thank you for this. Would you be willing to share with me a bit of your musical history? Are you a studio musician, have you been in groups, if so what, are you in a group now, etc.? If you prefer this to be anonymous, would you email me at the address at the bottom of my 1st FFL post? Thank you, m On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:16 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: This was a new guitar I had just purchased. It was strung in the usual way. It didn't phase him. But because it wasn't live, we didn't hear that much. We just saw the amazing play of his fingers. I didn't even know he was left handed or even that left-handed people string their guitars differently. Also, like I said, he seemed pretty stoned. The whole thing lasted about 5 minutes. Jimi turned a regular guitar upside down and strung it the right way with bass stings on the top. Guys like Albert King and Dr. Issiah Ross played it actually upside down which required Albert to pull bent strings DOWN. But a guy like Jimi could play the usual style of guitar that he had handled a million times before much better than I could play a left handed guitar. But if you put one in my hands somewhere between the second and third bourbon, I'm gunna rock the house with an upside down guitar and that's a natural fact. We may not be geniuses with the other handed guitar, but we can entertain. That is what we do. On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods. Are you left-handed? Otherwise how could he have played your guitar?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA I was SO not a fan, Curtis. I don't think I'd ever listened to a single one of her songs, largely because I couldn't get past her public image as Out Of Control Girl. I was too late to see the YouTube link you posted (the poster seems to have closed his/her account), but today one of my Facebook friends posted a link that got me over my aversion and forced me to listen to my first Amy Winehouse song. It's the choice of song that did it. This song is one of my guilty favorites from my own teenage years. Written by Carole King and then-husband Gerry Goffin for the Shirelles, I was such a lovesick sap at 15 that I used to listen to it over and over. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwN806lLKZQ The other Shirelles song I used to obsess on, this one written by Burt Bacharach. To this day, I still love the cheezy Farfiza organ solo and the breathy vocals by Shirley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvoNmBLhVI
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA I was SO not a fan, Curtis. I don't think I'd ever listened to a single one of her songs, largely because I couldn't get past her public image as Out Of Control Girl. I was too late to see the YouTube link you posted (the poster seems to have closed his/her account), but today one of my Facebook friends posted a link that got me over my aversion and forced me to listen to my first Amy Winehouse song. It's the choice of song that did it. This song is one of my guilty favorites from my own teenage years. Written by Carole King and then-husband Gerry Goffin for the Shirelles, I was such a lovesick sap at 15 that I used to listen to it over and over. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwN806lLKZQ The other Shirelles song I used to obsess on, this one written by Burt Bacharach. To this day, I still love the cheezy Farfiza organ solo and the breathy vocals by Shirley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvoNmBLhVI Sorry, the second link was bad. This is the song I meant to post, Baby It's You: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_a0It39zBg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA I was SO not a fan, Curtis. I don't think I'd ever listened to a single one of her songs, largely because I couldn't get past her public image as Out Of Control Girl. I had two predispositions to not like her music, the one you mention as well as a style of music that is usually too soft for my primitive tastes. But having been given her CD for a birthday present one year, I gave it a fair listen and once again, as often happens in matters of my taste prejudices, I found I was wrong. The girl had real talent, a distinctive voice, and a sly sense of humor expressed in her personal style and song choices. I'm sorry you didn't get to hear that song because it was in her hands the genuine article. I found this version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UufMAsvzgsfeature=related Could Beyonce sing this song this believably? Adele? Any other contemporary artist? It took Amy, and the reasons she was believable, in the end, took her down. So having eaten crow once again I started reading a bit about her, a precocious arts school phenom whose teachers loved her for her talent and hated her for her total lack of self discipline. She was just a baby when the fame monster put her on its back. A confused baby. A baby with substance abuse problems. Formula for disaster. Think about the crow she had to eat when she finally DID go to rehab after her famous song. But she did. She had people who loved her and a whole team of families who bet on her horse to support their families. All of whom just got completely screwed with the cancellation of this last tour. So much human tragedy surrounds a falling star. It incinerates many lives in its path. She was just a slip of a thing, tiny, with her improbably tall beehive and big, big voice. But the fury she had incited in her neruo-transmitters could not be managed. I don't believe it was due to lack of loving support around her or even her own desire to live a full life. I blame it on a puritanically influenced medical system whose best answer for a girl with her problem is to go to a 12 step program and pray that she will get delivered from her sin. She deserved better. You wrote an excellent post about stars you met and the lifestyle that took them down. So many people are involved in a big tour that they have to cram it into a shitty schedule. Built-in disaster for the performers. And for big acts these tours go on and on. How can a person give everything in performance when their get up and go, got up and left? Ah, a line or two, few bumps between sets works fantastically for a while. Until the brain grows too many receptor sites for the amount of neruo-transmitters you can generate without the lines...but on to an early morning radio show after falling into bed at 3 am so sniff sniff and sound check at 3 pm... I was too late to see the YouTube link you posted (the poster seems to have closed his/her account), but today one of my Facebook friends posted a link that got me over my aversion and forced me to listen to my first Amy Winehouse song. It's the choice of song that did it. This song is one of my guilty favorites from my own teenage years. Written by Carole King and then-husband Gerry Goffin for the Shirelles, I was such a lovesick sap at 15 that I used to listen to it over and over. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwN806lLKZQ The other Shirelles song I used to obsess on, this one written by Burt Bacharach. To this day, I still love the cheezy Farfiza organ solo and the breathy vocals by Shirley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvoNmBLhVI
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Must be their Saturn return. ;-) On 07/23/2011 02:13 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltabluescurtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
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Those clips of her when she was sober showed her true talent. But this was her last performance: http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392230/amy-winehouses-slow-fade-five-years-of-fallowness/ May she rest in peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA I was SO not a fan, Curtis. I don't think I'd ever listened to a single one of her songs, largely because I couldn't get past her public image as Out Of Control Girl. I had two predispositions to not like her music, the one you mention as well as a style of music that is usually too soft for my primitive tastes. But having been given her CD for a birthday present one year, I gave it a fair listen and once again, as often happens in matters of my taste prejudices, I found I was wrong. The girl had real talent, a distinctive voice, and a sly sense of humor expressed in her personal style and song choices. I'm sorry you didn't get to hear that song because it was in her hands the genuine article. I found this version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UufMAsvzgsfeature=related Could Beyonce sing this song this believably? Adele? Any other contemporary artist? It took Amy, and the reasons she was believable, in the end, took her down. So having eaten crow once again I started reading a bit about her, a precocious arts school phenom whose teachers loved her for her talent and hated her for her total lack of self discipline. She was just a baby when the fame monster put her on its back. A confused baby. A baby with substance abuse problems. Formula for disaster. Think about the crow she had to eat when she finally DID go to rehab after her famous song. But she did. She had people who loved her and a whole team of families who bet on her horse to support their families. All of whom just got completely screwed with the cancellation of this last tour. So much human tragedy surrounds a falling star. It incinerates many lives in its path. She was just a slip of a thing, tiny, with her improbably tall beehive and big, big voice. But the fury she had incited in her neruo-transmitters could not be managed. I don't believe it was due to lack of loving support around her or even her own desire to live a full life. I blame it on a puritanically influenced medical system whose best answer for a girl with her problem is to go to a 12 step program and pray that she will get delivered from her sin. She deserved better. You wrote an excellent post about stars you met and the lifestyle that took them down. So many people are involved in a big tour that they have to cram it into a shitty schedule. Built-in disaster for the performers. And for big acts these tours go on and on. How can a person give everything in performance when their get up and go, got up and left? Ah, a line or two, few bumps between sets works fantastically for a while. Until the brain grows too many receptor sites for the amount of neruo-transmitters you can generate without the lines...but on to an early morning radio show after falling into bed at 3 am so sniff sniff and sound check at 3 pm... I was too late to see the YouTube link you posted (the poster seems to have closed his/her account), but today one of my Facebook friends posted a link that got me over my aversion and forced me to listen to my first Amy Winehouse song. It's the choice of song that did it. This song is one of my guilty favorites from my own teenage years. Written by Carole King and then-husband Gerry Goffin for the Shirelles, I was such a lovesick sap at 15 that I used to listen to it over and over. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwN806lLKZQ The other Shirelles song I used to obsess on, this one written by Burt Bacharach. To this day, I still love the cheezy Farfiza organ solo and the breathy vocals by Shirley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvoNmBLhVI
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RIP Amy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAB5qwhi0w --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Those clips of her when she was sober showed her true talent. But this was her last performance: http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392230/amy-winehouses-slow-fade-five-years-of-fallowness/ May she rest in peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA I was SO not a fan, Curtis. I don't think I'd ever listened to a single one of her songs, largely because I couldn't get past her public image as Out Of Control Girl. I had two predispositions to not like her music, the one you mention as well as a style of music that is usually too soft for my primitive tastes. But having been given her CD for a birthday present one year, I gave it a fair listen and once again, as often happens in matters of my taste prejudices, I found I was wrong. The girl had real talent, a distinctive voice, and a sly sense of humor expressed in her personal style and song choices. I'm sorry you didn't get to hear that song because it was in her hands the genuine article. I found this version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UufMAsvzgsfeature=related Could Beyonce sing this song this believably? Adele? Any other contemporary artist? It took Amy, and the reasons she was believable, in the end, took her down. So having eaten crow once again I started reading a bit about her, a precocious arts school phenom whose teachers loved her for her talent and hated her for her total lack of self discipline. She was just a baby when the fame monster put her on its back. A confused baby. A baby with substance abuse problems. Formula for disaster. Think about the crow she had to eat when she finally DID go to rehab after her famous song. But she did. She had people who loved her and a whole team of families who bet on her horse to support their families. All of whom just got completely screwed with the cancellation of this last tour. So much human tragedy surrounds a falling star. It incinerates many lives in its path. She was just a slip of a thing, tiny, with her improbably tall beehive and big, big voice. But the fury she had incited in her neruo-transmitters could not be managed. I don't believe it was due to lack of loving support around her or even her own desire to live a full life. I blame it on a puritanically influenced medical system whose best answer for a girl with her problem is to go to a 12 step program and pray that she will get delivered from her sin. She deserved better. You wrote an excellent post about stars you met and the lifestyle that took them down. So many people are involved in a big tour that they have to cram it into a shitty schedule. Built-in disaster for the performers. And for big acts these tours go on and on. How can a person give everything in performance when their get up and go, got up and left? Ah, a line or two, few bumps between sets works fantastically for a while. Until the brain grows too many receptor sites for the amount of neruo-transmitters you can generate without the lines...but on to an early morning radio show after falling into bed at 3 am so sniff sniff and sound check at 3 pm... I was too late to see the YouTube link you posted (the poster seems to have closed his/her account), but today one of my Facebook friends posted a link that got me over my aversion and forced me to listen to my first Amy Winehouse song. It's the choice of song that did it. This song is one of my guilty favorites from my own teenage years. Written by Carole King and then-husband Gerry Goffin for the Shirelles, I was such a lovesick sap at 15 that I used to listen to it over and over. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwN806lLKZQ The other Shirelles song I used to obsess on, this one written by Burt Bacharach. To this day, I still love the cheezy Farfiza organ solo and the breathy vocals by Shirley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHvoNmBLhVI
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When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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I once sat 3-4 feet from Segovia during a concert. 'nuff said. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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Jesus Mark, like your Maharishi stories were not enough, you dish out some Jimi played my Strat on my ass! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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Did he give you a pair of his shoes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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This gave me a good laugh. His, I must say, I wouldn't be so interested in. Now one of his guitars... On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:43 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Did he give you a pair of his shoes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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Sorry, mon On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:41 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Jesus Mark, like your Maharishi stories were not enough, you dish out some Jimi played my Strat on my ass! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Did he give you a pair of his shoes? Damn, I wish I had thought of that! Nice one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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Several years ago I saw someone on Antiques Roadshow (probably my favorite show on TV, close second being Judge Judy...) with a guitar signed by Hendrix. I don't recall the value of it though. Signed when he was in Seattle I think. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: This gave me a good laugh. His, I must say, I wouldn't be so interested in. Now one of his guitars... On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:43 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Did he give you a pair of his shoes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods. Are you left-handed? Otherwise how could he have played your guitar?
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This was a new guitar I had just purchased. It was strung in the usual way. It didn't phase him. But because it wasn't live, we didn't hear that much. We just saw the amazing play of his fingers. I didn't even know he was left handed or even that left-handed people string their guitars differently. Also, like I said, he seemed pretty stoned. The whole thing lasted about 5 minutes. On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods. Are you left-handed? Otherwise how could he have played your guitar?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: This was a new guitar I had just purchased. It was strung in the usual way. It didn't phase him. But because it wasn't live, we didn't hear that much. We just saw the amazing play of his fingers. I didn't even know he was left handed or even that left-handed people string their guitars differently. Also, like I said, he seemed pretty stoned. The whole thing lasted about 5 minutes. Jimi turned a regular guitar upside down and strung it the right way with bass stings on the top. Guys like Albert King and Dr. Issiah Ross played it actually upside down which required Albert to pull bent strings DOWN. But a guy like Jimi could play the usual style of guitar that he had handled a million times before much better than I could play a left handed guitar. But if you put one in my hands somewhere between the second and third bourbon, I'm gunna rock the house with an upside down guitar and that's a natural fact. We may not be geniuses with the other handed guitar, but we can entertain. That is what we do. On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Landau Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed When I went into Manny's in NY to get my stratocaster in '69, Jimi was there stoned out of his gourd. When the guitar came up from the basement, he asked if he could play it. (Gawd, are you kidding?) So a few of us stood around while he did, with no amp. The dance of his fingers in the mid-range of the fret board seen up close like that was a revelation, like his fingers were Vedic gods. Are you left-handed? Otherwise how could he have played your guitar?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take them. Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated for many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, what it all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some kids just do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting to meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is not the problem any more. Musicians often get into downers because they were high strung to begin with and therefore very bright to understand the art and sciences of music and master them. But they were often too high strung to pull off good performances. They turn to drugs. I was also high strung and meditation solved the problem. I had high strung music students. They would come in an play for me and blow the piece but I could tell they had practiced and mentally understood the point of the lesson. But I couldn't exactly suggest they do meditation. I did have a band teacher when I was in the 5th grade who had the whole band do a visualization technique where we closed our eyes and imagined a handkerchief slowly falling to the ground. Mind you this was the 1950s! The war on drugs is just a political thing. It is really just a war on the underclass to keep the great unwashed in their proper place. In the US drug laws are very unpopular but they sure roll out the propaganda when we try to legalize drugs just as they did here in California last year with the pot legalization proposition. The only thing we could figure out was the that vote got rigged or the dopers were too stoned to remember to vote.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take them. This approach seems to have worked in Portugal, and in the Netherlands. Their incidence of hard drug usage is almost nil compared to the US and its War On Drugs mentality. Musicians often get into downers because they were high strung to begin with and therefore very bright to understand the art and sciences of music and master them. But they were often too high strung to pull off good performances. They turn to drugs. I think a lot of it involves the realities of touring. You drive in a bus to a gig, wait around while the roadies set everything up, play your hearts out for the audience, and then the audience goes home and goes to sleep. The musicians, wired to the gills from the high of playing, can't sleep. They wait for the roadies to load up again, pile into the bus, and head for the next town. And they *still* can't sleep. So a lot of them turn to downers. And then they need uppers the next day to get up and do the same thing in the next town. As Robbie Robertson said at the end of the film The Last Waltz, It's an unlivable lifestyle. Because I promoted rock 'n roll in college, I got to know a few musicians because we hired them for our shows. Plus, we got to party with them after the shows, so I got to see the down side of their unlivable lifestyles close up. Many of the people I met went the same way -- Janis, Jimi, Jim Morrison, Jerry Garcia. They paid their money and they took their chance. Sadly, they lost.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
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On 07/23/2011 12:19 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take them. Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated for many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, what it all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some kids just do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting to meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is not the problem any more. I also meant to mention peer pressure. Some people can get into drugs and take or leave them. I'm sure you've know people like that. And others develop a dependency on drugs. Many people feel a need to keep up with their peers. They need to know that they shouldn't and it's even a bad idea. The music scene is horrible to deal with unless you are real individual and stand up to the peer pressure that goes on there. People need to also understand themselves. Believe it or not I've seen codependency markers in horoscopes. But we can't expect a dumbass society to ever look at real horoscopes as a tool.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/23/2011 12:19 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take them. Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated for many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, what it all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some kids just do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting to meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is not the problem any more. I also meant to mention peer pressure. Some people can get into drugs and take or leave them. I'm sure you've know people like that. And others develop a dependency on drugs. Many people feel a need to keep up with their peers. They need to know that they shouldn't and it's even a bad idea. The music scene is horrible to deal with unless you are real individual and stand up to the peer pressure that goes on there. People need to also understand themselves. Believe it or not I've seen codependency markers in horoscopes. But we can't expect a dumbass society to ever look at real horoscopes as a tool. Years ago I spoke with someone who looked at the horoscopes of several psychiatric patients in a particular psychiatrist's office (prior patient permission given, but astrologer had no info on the patients other than birthdate and time) and was able to tell the dr just what was going on with the patients in terms of reason for the problem and diagnosis. He did this while in a graduate program at Harvard in the 70's. Never published, just an experiment. He says the psychiatrist was amazed at the accuracy and some of the insights. Astrology will never be taken seriously until some really good research is done and redone to prove, or disprove, its accuracy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. Overdose, I believe, not necessarily suicide. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
Overdose = suicide as far as I am concerned. To be so careless with one's life as to lose it by accidentally ingesting enough toxic substance to kill oneself is suicide. Typically the end result of years of self-destructive behavior. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. Overdose, I believe, not necessarily suicide. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rsplaynext=1list=PL2D4F755C610950CA At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
